#gameplay-discussion
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I was given 100 arcs when I made my account. Until I have a way to earn that currency in-game I just bump them to 30 and sell
and how am I meant to check if I sold it months ago lol
did you buy the founder pack or something?
Why not wait to actually run out before selling tho?
Ye
Yeah, I didn't
I didnt so I get to keep 5
Wait really? I had 27 weapons without the pack
Nah, you're lucky then
Also I'm from the 2nd ever batch of players in the original preludes so that might be it
Limit was probably not present so we could test all weapons
same strat i'm doing haha
oh it's 10 arcs per weapon slot
yeah and you also have to buy pact slots too
pacts are 20 too haha
once I can farm items and have a soulframe.market like warframe, i'm golden
just gotta wait (for awhile) haha
Also just read this from the Founder's pack FAQ
Not at this time. There are future plans to add the ability for Founders to share Fragments of the Paragon Greatsword for crafting by other players, but details have not been finalized. Please stay tuned for more details as development continues.
Depending on how easy it is to get said fragments they might sell for nothing lol
It will be like riven rolling more likely
even though they regretted rivens iirc
min/max animal stats for the totems
That's the Paragon btw
I only want the sword to level up the greatswords in general
how do i use the armor or pact i got from the stag lady
oh the memories 
Hunt things in the world to unlock memories of the parts till you have enough to craft
I wonder what they're worth now. I haven't played in like 4 years
I use to sit in my ship and spam trade chat before any of that haha
Me too. The site was game-changing though. You just sit there and people message you EZ
Is it 32 or 34 f2p weapons in the game rn?
total but like 7 are paid for from paragon
I couldn't remember if the 32 f2p was before or after the event
middle to high 30s minus paid I'd guess
So if it's 10 arcs and players have 5 we'll say you need 29 slots so 290 arcs
Im happy then, Im at 24 weapons in total rn, and 5 fragments almost ccomplete
Just 5 more weapons to find
that's good
How many weapons are faction locked?
13.49$CAD (before taxes) gets you 360 arcs
I used the weapon comparison site so i'm holding onto the ones I may use later on at some point
Im gonna be a hoarder
It shall be a great flex to have every single item in the game in my inventory as the game slowly evolves
I mean... I got here early enough for it yk
What's the event locked equipment again?
A bow and longsword I think
bow/mainhand dagger-ish thing
Is there something to tell us if we've crafted a armor before? Or does it just not show the option to recraft the armor
Nah, once they add it to the old guy there will be
Are they in the companion app?
Oh theres a app for this game?
If we're lucky, they may already be logged (just not visible at this time) in-game
Not an official one and you need to manually enter what you have but yes
in the crafting window it does (if you haven't sold it)
Go to Avakot.org and get the "buddy app"
Dang it'd be nice if I didn't have to manually do it
Yeah, no public API to pull from for now
guys i loaded up the game and it wont enter its just stuck
Probably gonna be a whiiile before there is one
Do you guys know the name of the event weapons tho? I want to see if I have them
Is the totem that enhanceds charge attack smite chance better or worse than the basic one for bows
maestro and raustrom?
yea those two
Nope, got neither
the knife and the alternate helmet drop for mobs that are 30+
before they wouldn't scale, so you'd have to farm in circles .. it was annoying
Maestro should be available rn tho, since Thawtide is until Jan 30th
anyone know why i cant press f on this thang
oh wait Rostrum
ah ty
np, I spam curlail siege and had the same issue when I first did it
Yeah I got the knife, both helmets and the leggings
yoooo birb
ye
Ty for the companion app, genuinely such a help, I know how many weapons I got and allat now, and I can plan how to get emmm
Then I'll probably focus in on getting the armor
I'll fill that in after that tho
My pleasure, there's also a wiki (also available through avakot.org)
Praise be the tiny cute plant man
(Also it's canonically my job in the game to guide people)
Listen, its a rat with wings and derpy😭
it's a "seagull" 🙂
I know a guide I wannt but it sadly will never happen
I want a fish with wings as a guide, except it can't do anything but flop on the ground
No guiding
Just flopping
maybe an april fool's joke (you could make a request in the feedback tracking and cross your fingers)
Good idea
Do you get prelude keys if you purchase the founders pack?
Some said they would sacrifice a firstborn for the fish
You're on the right track
Should I stop procrastinating and finally get the missing fragments for the weapons im close to getting
I'm just going around doing shit for my faction (Alca's) and farming bosses here and there
I am checking my emails i dont see that i have 6 invitations
Is the founders pack the uhhh
Paragon?
Login on the soulframe, click on your name and go in account management
You might have something under "Preludes Access - Friend Codes"
(or maybe it was only for original preludes members and now only for founders)
Ah yeah probably, i dont have the tab in mine
I'm probably not the best person to answer now that I think about it since I was in 2nd wave and apparently our accounts a bit... "funky" on some points because of that
You need one for a friend?
Yeah
I'll dm you one
You are the best, thank you!
i do think we are more then ten Envoys~~
the big seven hundo
A
whats a money maker yall do
Break boxes in undercity
i like breaking things thanks
I'm a 70+k and that's where most of it is from. Same thing in Alca (overworld) honestly
yeah sounds easy and fun
Already Maxed Oscelda, Wyld Oscelda, Garren, Brominus and Orengall. Should I farm Ode Tempest first or get Tethren and Sirin? Currently Rank 4 on Alca.
Get Tethren/Sirin and level them up while gathering points to buy Ode Tempest
You won't reach 30 before getting enough points but you won't be at 0
it seem that sometime my chat doesnt show up even when i press T
Actually a good point. thanks.
Ig especially Ode is not as busted as before.
Has anyone else had an issue with selling weapons? I'm trying to sell a knife to make room for a different knife but it keeps telling me "could not sell item at this time." I don't have it equiped, but it is the only sidearm I own
Also what is this new Green Border?
no idea sry
that'd probably be why you can't sell it. you need another side arm to replace it
that is to show you items what can be made
Oh is it new? cause i swear it was not green before lol
or are ready to be made
Yeah I saw that, didn't even restart my game and it appeared. Guess they're trying live updates
I wonder if we'll get Red Text in soulframe
it's greener, eye. but it's always been a light green
Green Text?
nah we get purple text
Purple is bot messages tho
oh...
I vote for Green Text on updates
I too vote for green. or blue. blue is good
Hot fix 0.2
Anon fix green border for ready made item
Update in 5 minutes
Don't have to leave game
ready to make*
That'd be great for april fools imo
Its a glitch kinda
I think, sometimes its super vivid, I notice it too
I'm fine with this glitch. DE do not fix this glitch, please
Spoilt Plunder should not be a mission holy shit
It is forcing me through the largest tileset of Undercity killing every single enemy and the bird bugs out and can't even show you over to the last enemy as it just gets stuck into a stone wall
I've been down here for almost 25 minutes now
and the bird just gets stuck here
Founder Pack - Is Kind of TROLL!???

How so? They tell you exactly what you'll get
bot
Nah he made a post in feedback asking the devs to make the founder weapons busted and p2w
Like 6 hours ago
Does anyone know what the glowing things you collect to reveal the names of POIs are called?
Motes
Sometimes you can see them floating around if you go talk to lore grandpa and look through different pages of lore (you can click on them)
I'm just getting started, are there any good guides out there?
Or should I just throw myself wildly into things? 🙂
just test things out get a feel for the controls. Thats what im doing right now.
or just ask questions here. Most people will answer
What you need is a personal guide. Maybe a way to hire another player to assist where that player gets some perk or reward for doing so. This would encourage players to help other players. I'm seeing a lot of players in the game that are very confused about one aspect or another of this game.
Did they mention making the king, hunthra and malrog a 30 min timer in an update soon? Getting treefell and weapons from these guys is so tedious right now. 😓
Does Agari doesn't immediately respawn when doing shares? like when you join other worlds one after another?
vella is dropping treefall -> 30mins timer
no every world has the timer after you killed them in that host world
oh, so now share doesn't work anymore?
Really? Nice. I didn’t see it listed as a drop on the wiki, so didn’t know. I’ll do that then.
yes share works. but after you shared its 30mins
i got it from vella so yes it drops
whats the best attack totem for flyblade? primary armor pen?
It’s the only rune I’m missing. So that’ll help a lot. Thanks.
oh i see, yeah i just got a case where the agari doesn't spawn at all when we move world from mine to other. other case is King got delayed spawn on my world after killing it in someone else's
king is buggy. needs a relog sometimes
He just needs the extra 💤
Have a question about the transmog system , if I permanently change appearance do I keep the original piece of equipment that I’m taking the appearance of ?
My spiders have both respawned just fine.
dont do it in the cave, lure it out
I already got kicked out of cogah 3x, it could triger the coward notice
I need my dog mount in an update soon. That or more seeds than the few every 12 hours. My dude will have super beefy legs with all this running.
obviously its okay to do the dungeon one, I mean the cave entrance
Coward Notice?
you keep all your equipment, it just apply a "skin" to that slot from equipment that you already got
Ty
in cogah you cant run away after starting combat or it'll kick you out
killing the spider in the cave entrance trigger that too (bugged)
Ahhhhh, got it
There’s a few bosses that trigger it randomly after you kill them.
think for crafting
i know that, that is
do i need to go to the faction place to level up the xp bar is showing full
I can't find any Thawtide Hunters. I found one Squawker, destroyed it and killed the 3 hunters. But after that I ran around the whole map for over 90 minutes and couldn't find one hunter or another Squawker. Do I miss something?
If it’s maxed out, yeah. At rank 5 you can only have 30k points. Gotta spend some to get more
try to relog and walk around again, i found a lot in NE area close to each other, even sometimes 2 squawker in one place (but only 3 hunters unfortunately)
Do bosses despawn in dungeons? I saw Thrice-Bound Impidh up in the dungeon, decided to explore the other rooms came back and now hes gone.
I had a boss just do that to me too. So probably a bug.
Ok, will give that a try. Maybe they are more next time. The 2 session I played with logging in new, had the same result of none hunters to be found. ^^
do i need to go lower levels to get cardinal charm frags?
It’s all random
i got plenty of lord and lady cardinals but no charm frag
Where do i actually find fenn jotar, like, I only have one faction unlocked so far it seems...?
you can only "unlock" one at a time by joining em but you can enter them all regardless
he'll be here
I only have roses in my map, not even the.. uh, purple looking quest thingies
Your first faction is determined by your starter pact
Then you have to craft talismans to be able to talk to the others
yeah the enclave locations are kinda finicky they kinda just choose when they want to show up at least it did for a while
Talisman? Charm? I'm drawing a blank on the proper name but it's the necklace thing
talisman is the term
and talismanis found at blacksmith or..
are you looking to join kith of kings? also for what reason because you may not need to
I just want to unlock a different ...character than just the starter 1
Yeah recipes should be auto unlocked but you need to buy sacred shimmer to craft the other faction talisman
Well there's the omen beast ones you get from the fables
your current faction is likely the one you started with and will offer the blueprints for the starter pacts that you didn't choose
3 so far between garren, bromius and orengall
other than that, you can also get fable pacts like the ones deltasaber just mentioned
If you got to your faction you should at least have the garren rood fragment
Ye I got Bromius and Garren to craft
your faction will also offer a silent rose/children of alca exclusive pact: Ode Tempest and Kith of Kings has Mora's Hand
If you want, you can join me for faction tales so you can work towards getting the material you need to swap to another faction
its just that id like some sort of a melee option at this point 😄
oh you don't need a whole other faction for that XD you can find that anywhere
if your playing right now im down to grind some t3 in the north
ye I'm still doing tales atm. Though I'll have to go back to the enclave after 1 or 2 more to rank up
yeah tales in the north? my ign is the same as my name here
yeah NE as always
Just in case you dont know but you arent locked to the weapon type you started with
invite me
Yea its just id also like to get new abilities to try out
I see I can craft Direskull talisman
but for like, Garrren Rood I need 30 Gossamer
which is.. awful to grind =/
lots in dungeon chests
just visit a salesprout every 2.5 hours and buy gossamer if he has it
Yeah that one is also in my near future
none of my level ups or gathered materials are showing up in nightfold, is this a new bug?
chests which are behind puzzles =/ I hate doing puzzles the whole day
would you like to join us for faction tales? you likely also get weapon fragments
nope faction tales provide exp for any
good lord this xp affinity grind DE
Sure thing
is your IGN the same as discord?
no, i went freaky - Hexalon
genuinely nothing is applying. when I'm in Midarth it does show up that I've picked up stuff/gained xp but when I return to nightfold it's nothing. my bow is lvl 18 when outside but when I come back to nightfold it's still lvl 0
...okay now my entire progress has reset. discovered world trees too
Anyone know how to install soulframe?\
I downloaded launcher says checking https network route?
i just downloaded and clicked on install, everything worked fine
i got a really important question, can you pickpocket stag wtih sirin??? i just want 1 more gath fragment
What are the bosses that are still on 3 hours cooldown?
mk
Is it worth it to do polished Gildaur on Odiac for the lifesteal? Seems worth because of the high rate of fire
and forts and mada
not worth it at all
Aw okay. I'm really struggling to find the blue and green joineries for magick / bows, but also just want to buff it in some way
Guess I will keep hunting
is last stand (low life = increased attack speed) on tethren skill tree any good?
not sure what to go for on that skill tree
you can buy a blue one in rank 4 in alca's faction
Don't want to waste mats reforging multiple times
Yeah I'm still R1 there
Will put in more time with those events
Will we have guilds clans in soulframe?
I didn't realize that Standing and faction XP are not two different things, so I spent like 3k of it yesterday 🙁
Iv been playing alone alot thsn took a beeak
I thought the ranking up is based on cumulative XP earned, not that you need to keep the points until you rank
I don't see why not, it's a big part of WF and a big draw for getting friends into the game, especially the sharing of blueprints and things
(that's how my friend got me more hooked on WF as a new player)
Anyone know what the difference in ranks of torrent rune does? Wiki just says each rank is the same
Does Cogah also give normal loot pool? like King will drop armors
tested it a while ago. i see no difference
Dang. Thanks.
Nice. I know I hated fly blades until I got Picktrix. So hopefully it’s as good as that.
better
Sweet. Too bad there isn’t an auto target like them though for bows.
All joineries can be obtain the same way ? I never really farmed them, but I have 165 purple, 126 red, 6 blue and 5 green. Why is there so much difference between red/purple and green/blue ?
For Christmas I’m giving these little green dudes some allergy medication.
I would also like to know, the lack of blue and green hurts cause I really want to upgrade the bow / Odiac
Can someone explain to me what does Ode Tempest do now in high-end content beside slight stability damage and a low chance of applying Smite on enemies (if they can be Smited)? I just read the patch notes since I started using the Pact recently again after enjoying the others for a while and from my testing in-game and reading the notes, it feels simply hollow on anything above basic level enemies.
But the stagger dies off quickly against anything not basic and Smite does not affect a lot of high-end enemies as stated in my post.
Weapons already take care of low level enemies when you max them out, so what am I doing with it now? It is by far my most loved Pact aesthetically and before the nerfs, thematically, but now? Now it feels like I am just running it as a fashion statement and that is it.
It was nerfed alot
I want anything and I mean anything meaningful, DE! Give me something of substance. This is not cool nor funny how you gut it and throw it like trash. It is not even an over-correction!
I am sure people have already shared more than me in much more detail what they think of it. I am just disheartened that this is how they course corrected a broken Pact, which to be fair, it was. I get pre-alpha, but what was the plan short-term, flavour?
They clearly can and do balance Pacts properly - I mean, look at the Bear Pact! They nerfed it beautifully, and now feels proper, same with the flame Pact! Despite slight issues and minor problems, everyone is mostly pleased with these. Ode, on the other hand, just feels like an afterthought, which is not fair for the fans of the Pact.
just curious, does the game get more difficult later on?
sure that island is just a starting area in the real game
thats how it is. things get buffed things get nerfed. they test stuff so just wait
and yeah it alpha so just give feedback and watch what happens
hell yeah
I think that was a joke 😅
speaking of Ode, that's the last pact I'm missing, slowly grinding towards it
tried everything else, so far I like tethren, mora and bromius the most, since they are the most straight forward damage builds
I thought everything else would feel anemic after starting with Tethren, but Mora's Hand feels great. Sad to hear Ode Tempest got hit a bit too hard.
it's been a few years but bromius is kind of close to rhino right?
I also really like the lightning aesthetic. Was going to use it with the Tempest set + Duhk Halic and Odiac
Mora and bromius are both pretty decent AOE types, while tethren is great for single target, for endless I bring oscelda though, crap weapons means I need the heals on occasion
Orengall and Rood seem solid also from what I've seen of them
Stampede just clears groups of enemies with zero effort and the wolf summons are decently strong
eh, orengall's wolf form thing has been giving me trouble so I abandoned it right after I hit 30, garren is aight
well, I guess the headbutt with garren is cool
Guys, does Meridiant King only respawn after 3 hours? or 30 Min?
3h bugged
Oh snap, thanks!
This Torment Stag quest is annoying it’s like I’m running in circles and the quest won’t progress
how do you open the purple forcefield inm the waste bear quest
were pressing F but its not doing anything
Open the map and go to the few points it shows first
Then come back to the purple force field and play the musics
hi is there a discord server where people fight boss kinda like cascadia in warframe ?
should i buy this?
oh okay
No
I wouldn't, unless you really need it and don't want to farm it.
No
You can farm the blessed ones?
I thought those were the paid versions
Yes, from bosses or Factions.
Oooh I see, cheers 🙂 Another reason to pump my faction rank lol
ty
Also, I've seen quicksilver mostly used on bows.. and since Juniper is already Grace attuned, a 'blessed by saphine' joinery would be a waste, cheaper to use a polished joinery instead.
Quicksilver is exclusive for bows.
Maybe Flyblades too, not sure.
The King really doesn't want to drop that last chest armour fragment, heh. I can build two Purity now. RNG be strange at times.
actually looking to kill THE MENDICANT KING, checking google and allltat jazz
I didn't get a rune from doing the eastern fort, is that normal? I've only done the forst closest to the starting area twice, and got a rune both times
yes its rng
Aww okay
The first fort is better IMHO, you get like 6 weapon racks or something out of it which is nice
Gonna go do it again now
Much lower Infamy though, if you are looking to pre-farm it.
Is infamy one of the faction currencies?
No, or at least not yet.
We don't know what the Infamy is supposed to do yet, just that it is a representation of the Ode getting pissed off about all the Forts getting burned and their Bannerets killed.
is there a way to find motes?
Alright, makes sense 🙂 For now I'm just doing the first fort mostly for mats, I've gotten 4 of the flame runes from there so far
Your eyeballs 😄 They are so hard to see sometimes
When you approach a location, it will show a number of dark little circles with eyes in the "nodes" at the top under the name, that is the number of motes currently at the location.
You'll need to come back another time for more
Just looking around, not sure they are highlighted in Spectral Sight, but might want to try it.
Also note, not all of them spawn at once, when you enter a location you get some
icons indicating how many are findable now.
And if you want to force a location's mote, relogging will spawn new ones.
\o/
I finished farming everything.
...
orz
I got nothing left to farm.
Congratz? ;)
I'm only missing a few things at the moment, I'll get to them eventually, heh.
In this video, I break down one effective, immediately usable build for every Pact in Soulframe.
The video starts with a shared weapon foundation, explaining core mechanics once so they don’t have to be repeated in every Pact section.
After that, we go Pact by Pact, covering:
Recommended weapon combinations
Rune, Totem, and Joinery synergie...
Now you can finally play the game 😄
100 shimmer
I'll stick with farming Infamy. 🤣
anyone need king drop?
is it me or bromius stomp deals 1 damage?
What level is it?
That should be the stagger damage.
got it to level 6
Unless you have low armor and using the unlevelled one.
i have 20 courage and 30 armor
you mightve hit a further enemy
It's because the pact is low level, a lot of pacts feel weak in the beginning, but ramp up quite nicely later on.
i see thank you all
I swear I have spent 2 days trying to find the last one for Curlail but idk where the boundary even starts or ends for it lol
If things are not changed, the walled town and the crop fields.
is it now possible to dye your pact arm?
Not yet.
Bosses respawn every 4 hours was it?
Oh so the crop fields do count? Good to know, its probably there lol
ex. Mendicant King
30mins now, except forts n king 3hr
where can i find the waste wraith
The inland corrupted area just north of the big castle on the south coast.
I can't find Will-o-wings ANYWHERE, I haven't seen any spawn outside of the bear mission... Does anyone know of any reliable way to find them?
Or at least where you have seen some recently?
From what I can tell, they're a random spawn. I've been purposefully running into them when I see them, just I in case I need the materials later.
I need 22 friggin Will-o-fronds... I have 3
They also show up with spectral sight
That's good to know, I always spam it but I haven't seen them at all
I have mine mapped to Mouse button 5 and just hold it
Haha yeah I just hold Q, but probably would be easier to add a 2nd mapping to my mouse
Did it now. MB5 for this, MB4 for heavy attack
He was not alive 🙁
So it will look just like a normal plant spawn, but bigger?
Not easy to confuse with something else?
are there ways to co-op play?
I don't think with strangers
Yes, you need to invite people to your world or be invited to theirs
Yeah, especially with spectral sight, itll look like any other plant
Oh, so from a distance it's not so easy to tell that it's not a normal plant? Or is the outline quite different?
Mendicant King, ill try again in like 15mins then its 30mins 100%
king is 3hours .-.
Mk is bugged atm so it's 3h for him
Ive gotten tripped up thinking they were a normal plant yeah, which I think is on purpose
.
no randoms? also is it worth?
Not really unless you just wanna play with friends imo
It scales the enemy health (I think)
With friends on voice chat it's jolly good fun, otherwise I don't see the point really
No you can only see random people in the faction hubs. As for is it worth inviting people? That's for you to say for the most part. You can have people join you to help you out with hard bosses at the start or to share your bosses so you all get more resources
Is it just me, or does DE have a recurring “right arm” fixation fetish across their universes?
In Warframe, the Orokin aesthetic and here in Soulframe its the source of abilities.
I mean you gotta have 1 cool arm
maybe it's related and the Envoys are the ancestors of Orokin
Has anyone had a Will-o-wing spawn recently? Feels like I am going crazy 🙁
Are they really that rare?
yesterday i got 5 or 6 packs just by farming faction tales
Dont forget Dark Sector lol
DE and right arms is the most iconic duo
I get a fixed spawn when I do a very specific sequence of things.
Log in near Fort Curlail -> Nightfold and drink Cogha -> Fort Curlail Siege -> Fort Kearnhold Siege -> Go north toward the wall -> Turn left to go toward Impidh.
At that point I always find a spawn midway to Impidh, if at any point of this sequence I Nightfold again I will not.
Which might imply something about RNG seed generation that I have not enough knowledge to figure out.
If you see enough stuff from the same people you will eventually see recurring concepts.
how to start using fast travel . just finish the quest
Tree jar.
Can be harvested every 12 hours, drops 1-3.
got it thanks.
Aw man.
Thanks to you now I know I have to go AROUND the tree to harvest it from the top. Went running around like a lunatic even since I got that quest done...
Wanted to farm King armour Parts but i guess It will take some time
Oh yes.. I've only got one chest piece fragment left to get, heh.
Meanwhile.. I have 3 extra helm frags, 2 extra sabaton frags and 3 extra purity frags. :P
or is it a jar tree?
Well the tree is a jar tree, the jar is a tree jar, so the answer is yes.
Hi one qq: spulframe is a mmo?
perhaps
Don't think it really qualifies, since you see no other players in the overworld at all. Except for enclaves where some ppl might be hanging around. Yes there's coop but that's it.
WF is referred to as an MMO and so will Soulframe be, most likely, though it's been stated WF is more of a 'pseudo-MMO', having features normally associated with one but a much smaller sense of scale when it comes to actual multiplayer.
So kind of yesn't.
Multiplayer will be expanded later though, on a separate note. Just no typical MMO dozens of people stuff.
MMO games 1 problem that can never be fixed
High level players in low level zones killing quest needed mobs for no reason soft locking players
Have never experienced that myself.
hello anyone wants a soulframe access code? answer this riddle in dm, you get one. have only 2 tho
what kills you if you eat half of it, but doesn't when you eat it fully.
Hint: tied to a language
I some how manage to ping Bisulcam. but idk what i did.
Friend confirm he seess it
What's Cogha? I don't think I have this yet. I've done the pact related quests and I have done the siege for those 2 forts
Cogah's the hardmode basically, activated with an elixir
Ends when you die, run away from a bossfight or log out tho
I see, and how does one get this elixir?
Brew potions with Verminia until she levels up to 2.
Okay awesome, thank you, will do that
I think it has to be unique potions though, so you may have to buy a recipe from your current enclave
Also I just logged in and I am at the bottom of the map, and got a cluster of Will-o-wings. So at least I know my game isn't bugging out lol
Or just color palettes
Happened here:
So far I only have the one palette from Avakot, and that's what I need 25 of the Will-o drops for
I defeated garren rood and I got armor but I can't build it?
says need more fragments
how do I get those?
from killing vadager stag
The fragments for that armour set drop off Vadagar Stags, they spawn in certain corrupted areas at night.
a boss that spawn on some loctaion in night event
ohhh how do I farm him?
has set location spawns, check avakot.org for the map
okay thank you
can do share with other people for more chances
or farm only one every 45 mintues
i recommend shares
so so tempted to buy gatthanana from the camel.....
Yees, give in to his whispers. ;)
Dogs are the worst enemies, you cannot change my mind
definitely though I was looking at Maelle from E33 for a second and was very confused
hello guys was just wondering how much there is to do at the game rn, is it worth picking up the founders pack, and are the other pacts aside from the starting 3 unlockable atm/how much do they affect the gameplay atm
To currently 100% the game is over 200h easily
Okay does anyone know the definitive third thing I gotta do here? Every time I've come to this door before I've hit the two switches and then shot around randomly and it eventually opened, I've never learned how to actually solve it.
there is a room up left from the pov in picture
there a statue there, also one in the water in front of you
shoot them all, thats it
I usualy just shoot the two switches in quick sucession and then wait a bit.
I know the two wall switches, I've shot those.
But there's a third thing you gotta do that I do not know what is.
As someone who started a week ago, without any money spent in the game:
- Very good foundation to build on
- There are 5 additional pacts on top of the 3 starting ones
- There are a bunch of weapons to find fragments for and craft, also some armor pieces
- You can play the flute to collect totems from animals, it is weirdly fun
- There are 2 repeatable sieges
- There are procedurally generated caves and ruins, although the gen pieces are not many so they feel samey
Does Cogah affect T3 tales too or just Agari?
Like it's very much a game that is still being made, but I have paid money for less content for games in Early Access
There are no tales in cogah
So all in all I'd say it's worth it
Ty Talonius
What it lacks in "stuff to do" besides roaming the map and murdering things, it makes up for with a very nice map to explore and just good vibes
nice thanks, have not kept up with the game at all, so is there any kind of "endgame" atm if its even gona be a thing
Woo, Mendicant King armour acquired, I'm done with the King, heh. :)
It reminds me of Guild Wars 2 in a good way, just with less "MMO" to it
I wouldn't say there is any kind of persistent / robust endgame besides grinding the factions to their highest ranks which is just repeating a few mission types over and over
And trying to get all fragments to craft all stuff that can be crafted (weapons, armor, pacts) - and leveling those up
nah no real endgame just a "hardmode" but tbh its not ahrd if you have lv30 stuff and some totems/runes
game is more collect all, craft all, test all
Yeah what he said ^
you know what? i am buying gath, i can't bear seeing that stag ever again
It's like if the Elden Ring map had some randomized enemy placements and no quests / main story
(And obviously it's not as big as Elden Ring, also no horse to ride lol)
thats the way
it has a main story, its not complete tho
Yeah that is true, there are a few quests but they're mostly just for getting the additional pacts
And the main story will be ongoing I assume, it will never "complete"
Same as WF
I'll buy Gathannan if it ends up being the last weapons to level up. But until then.. killing all the corrupted stags!
PSA: I have been getting very good luck in this part of the map finding Will-o-wings. Basically I run around until I find a pack, kill them, log out, log back in, and carry on roaming. It's been pretty consistent, after spending several hours across a few days looking in other parts of the map:
i ma not able to get new forged weapons, it says i need to have more inventory. is there any way to get inventory slot without spending prmium currency right now in game ?
There are 6 slots for free, more will cost you. But they cost 10 per slot and you start with 100 of the premium currency
So you can pump all of that into weapon slots (I did this)
No, the only way to free up a slot without arcs is to sell an existing weapon.
Avakot NPC
There's a sell tab on Avakot and Zenith
do ppl know how the collector spawns work, is it at a specific time or frequency? ik has to be high level areas
I don't think I will get the Founders Packs unless I come into some ez money, but I definitely will buy enough arcs to have slots for current number of pacts and weapons, I would like to keep one of each functional thing. It's not that expensive really, 350 arcs for 35 weapon slots which is enough currently, and another 100 for 5 extra pact slots.
every 6 houts
hours*, it can spawn, in the same location as others find it
is there a way to know like where in that 6hrs i am rn or do u just have to get lucky
There doesn't seem to be a way to see timers for your character's events sadly
Just make a note when you complete it basically, I've been doing that with the forts
Ok another question. I read about the virtue cap for weapons, am I better off investing my points in something else afterwards?
Ex. Right now I'm running Orengall, my weapon has a courage cap of 29. My Orengall 3rd ability doubles my courage. Could I go 15 points in courage and everything else in spirit, and run my 3rd ability with 100% uptime, or should I just dump everything into courage?
Yo guys can I play soulframe at ps5 ?
no
Eventually 😄
Naur
Soulframe isn't currently on consoles, but it will be, eventually
Ok thank you
anyone has a good dewlleion farming route?
camp vella every 30mins
Dewelion only drops off two 30min cooldown bosses, Vella and Hewyl, so it won't be much of a route. You just have to add the siege of Kearnhold in every 3 hours.
ok thanks
Is the Courage stat truly the primary dmg influencer for all pacts? Asking only because I went full Grace and saw a big jump in my "Attack" stat with a Grace weapon equipped. Vice-versa, I saw my "Attack" stat dramatically drop when I swapped to full spirit and used the same Grace weapon.
So I guess my primary question here is does the Courage stat provide an additional layer of dmg that cakes itself on top of the "Attack" stat increases I mentioned above?
It's time to call in the courage problem. I have faith that this can improve! ...but we need to acknowledge the issue to get there.
Has anybody been experiencing freezing after the endless? Whenever I host my wife would freeze and whenever she would host I would freeze.
So... what Virtues do I spec into for:
Garren Rood (deer)
Bromius (bear)
Orengall (wolf)
IDK if there's like, specific builds for the pacts already or what
I still need to max out Wyld Tethren (got max normal Tethren), then get my hands on normal Sirin and Oscelda
For pact arcanics that scale with virtue, ..Courage boosts intensity (eg. damage), Grace boosts range and Spirit boosts duration.
This is kinda why I wish the abilities had specific stat numbers n' stuff, like in Warframe
As for weapons, all weapons are attuned to a certain virtue, their damage increases if you spend points in that virue upto a point (the cap varies with each weapon). After that, the remaining virture points will only affect pact arcanics.
Arcanic damage over all just aint as good as the other 2 options tbh
They make a decent option for melee weapon users, zap that annoying archer on the roof, or healer in the back.
Or if you just want to rock the Battle Mage aesthetic, heh.
oh hey
Have the devs confirmed that the weapons added in these packs will become available in the future in some way?
Cause I have been eyeing the packs but more for the weapons than the armor sets tbh
everything except for paragon sword will be farmable
paragon sword will have to be givin by a founder in the form of a blueprint
For primary non-magick weapons, are there any with point trees that revolve more around dodge than parry conditions? Seems like most of them revolve around parry, unless I overlooked one.
I see. Yeah the greatsword is the thing I like the most from the sound / look of it
I think this was suppose to go in #envoy-gathering, no? 
Itz okay
Just wait until you try it with the Treefell rune, hehe.
I’m currently trying to farm that
Same
I'm only farming seiges for it rn because I don't feel like walking all the way down to the king 😂
Sieges dont drop. It's bugged
Vella drops it on a 30mins timer
Is there a way to level up armor??
No
Ah so just weapons and the runes then
hello, do you guys know if we can get weapon slots without paying or if we can get rid of our maxed weapon to make some place?
You can level weapons, pacts, Totems and runes
Yeah figured as much
You can sell weapons to the camel
You can sell weapons to the camel
ah nice thank you
Omg. Well, thanks for letting me know before I wasted even more time
For those who've built and tested the Rostrum, how is it? BiS for Flintsmoke shenanigans?
bruh i can't get over the baby on the shoulder
I'd love a skin for Orlick with a baby bjorn in the future
no ty, it's so creepy dude
This is more of a technical question before I try it and find out, but every time I boot up the game tells me I need to do some port forwarding. Do I need to complete the port forwarding before I can join any multiplayer groups?
I like the enemy design tho.... it somewhat reminds me of the enemies in the chronicles of riddick
Ur not using mobile data are ypu
No. I am on a fiberoptic connection via PC
With default Router settings?
It's a common issue with wf and sf
Well the settings the techs left it on.
You can totally ignore it
When they installed it all
Because I went to do some port forwarding, got the password from the router, then went to access settings and the installation techs changed it and didn't tell me what they changed it to because they are twerps.,
But only if you're really adamant on removing the warning
Is this a home network
But if it won't affect partying up for things like bosses, endless, etc.
It wont
Why would they change things without your permission
To stop the ignorant from breaking things.
where can I report bugs?
I do both
i’m still in cogah
Sieges dont drop treefall it's bugged
Vella does, 30mins timer
where is she
I'm looking for runes for my magick weapons, I found archstorm but I see a 2nd one. Does anyone know where to get it?
Same Boss, cogah mode
Undercity enterance, in a big hole NE of Fort Kearnhold.
I see, thanks!
Do I have something like level? I'm against 25 mobs now and they are pretty hard to beat
Hmm I just use the gear u get from buying founders packs
You weapon and pact have levels
Im pact 12 and staff is 4 lol
You can fast level them by joining someone who hosts Arena/endless in recruiting chat Ingame
Max Level for pact and weapons is 30
what are the cogah talismans used for
Wearing like normal talismans
Sometimes I can barely see the highlighted items,especially the scroll thingy. Anyway to increase the visibility ?
how do the additional smite chance totems work? I have a 1in6 on charged shots one on blitzel to try and up the odds for smite on it but it doesnt seem to be working? gone an hour and its only procced 1 smite during that time which doesnt seem right if its supposed to be a 1in6 additional roll for smite on charged shots?
Did Vella dungeon always not always spawned Vella? We checked all rooms. Then when we decided to exit, we got back way to the south
Yesterday I got out in the north though? Did they update it?
Exits are a little random
Well we got the "Find an Ode Relic from the past" or something objective
I never knew that/felt that, at least for the dungeon with Vella
That's just a sparrow tale
Vella's room was non-existant too
Also we didnt start any Sparrows Tales or anything, it just randomly gave us that objective
Yeah it happens
So about Vella's room not being generated then, is it because of that tale or can the tale and Vella be in the same instance?
Could be the tale yeah
Where does gathannan drop currently?
Stag
BROOOOOOOOOOO

Guys, is that hard to acquire pearls? It seemed that before i fought the Bromius it spawned near the river a lot, to the point where sometimes i ignored it (harsh mistake), now i've walked almost all the map looking for them and they don't seem to spawn anymore.
Sollos or Wulder first?
The one you want 
Fairly equal swords iirc
Wulder
thanks, goto start with one
Finally got Gathannan. Was farming everyday since that mention on the patch notes. Now there's only one left evading me: Dewelion
Why is my Recruit chat thing gone >.<
Avakot says "1 owned" under the Orengall pact, but I don't own any?? All I own is a fragment?
i have dewelion but not a single gathannan frag
And thats a Fragment there in the Screenshot
I see...
So at my metalworker in the Nightfall, am I crafting a fragment, or the pact? Is the pact made up of fragments?
So a fragment is a blueprint?
Yes
I see. Thank you
You need 1-x fragments for pacts, weapons,...
If you have all needed fragments you can craft it and See the needed materials
So it could require more than 1 fragment for the recipe to become unlocked, right?
Yes
Thank you Envoy
Avakot has his own wiki?
Amazing. All he needs now is 5 more voice lines so I don't keep hearing him repeat "Oi, big legs" over and over again
The person who created the wiki called it avakot
Oy big legs
Not the actual npc👀
If one was to be seeking 15 River Pearls, where might one begin?
Near rivers
In retrospect, maybe it was a silly question
Bosses seem to drop them a lot. I got like 100 pearls collecting dust
You can redo boss fights? Like the bear, and the elk?
does the stag only spawn at night?
Cogah is a potion you drink to turn on hard mode
Makes all the world bosses drop different stuff as well as pearls
Or during faction tales
is there a good spot to generate faction tales wiwth stags?
New runes are coming soon, so here's some Cogah basics while we wait for the next update!
Check out Soulmap: https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12
It's rng and stag has 30mins CD. Even with tales
My friend is searching for the normal bow rune, does it drop from the spider?
I heard you cant spawn a stag during in tales if its on cool down in the overworld
No from Archer Boss in north
We have a Wiki, just Check it
Thats true. You cant.
I tried searching for info but hadn't seen the wiki, thanks
Tho I had 2 spawn 1 right after the other. The other day
Game buggy so can be an edge case
Hm. River pearls seem to be quite rare. Any better ways to gather up the 15? I've wandered rivers for about 15 minutes and only found 1.
do t3 tales, boss banneret drop sometimes, and u can find avakot trader too with 3h cd in tales
Thanks for the help. Could you please elaborate, pretending I have no idea what any of that means lol
hey envoy mates, im thinking about weapon scaling, how many points i need to maximize my weapon dmg etc etc. do you have any information about it ?
faction mission star 3, in mission at end banneret boss, and in 2 mission nearly every 2 or 3rd a trader
think i remember hearing soft cap was in the 20s
21 or something close
How do I get to a faction mission with 3 stars?
They spawn
In the Wiki yes
dont do 1 or 2 star mission and will spawn 3star, and dont go to far from 1-2 star, like tleport to north etc, beacuse the system will reset and start to spawn star 12&3 at near your position
sorry, I'm really not understanding.
what's a faction mission?
i cant find any information about this in wiki 😄
u need to finish „The Tormented Stag” quest and u will got an invitation
Every weapon has a virtue cap. Thats written in the Wiki
can u link me 1 pls
I think I've finished that. I fought the Elk, and have the option to build that pact
just open your map pls, u will see some icons with stars
'''A Fey warrior's gloryblade.''' Dewelion is a word of the ancient Fey tongue. It means something like 'horizon;' a confluence of opposites; where day and night may meet. For a human steelsinger to have sung these delicate pieces back to former glory... An impossible confluence indeed.
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Yes this
Does... Does joinery allow you to change which stat the weapon is tied to?
like... I could reforge my Alder to use Courage instead?
blessed joinery does, but you must have the weapon maxed and you reset the level to 0.
Well that is both cool and lowkey sucks lmao. Feels like you need 3x of any weapons you like then
Virtue System will get a rework
So you dont need to invest in this now
Oh good. Because I love my magic staff but would prefer to go with damage-oriented courage pacts.. Tempest is Courage, right?
I'm saving my blessed joineries until both combat art and virtue systems get the planned rework.
Whats the best totems for greatsword
GG Clapped the 3 Headed bear first try
Tethren scales very well with Courage, but so do other pacts. There are however multiple versions of most weapons that scale with different virtues, its not strictly necssary to reforge and relevel one to play with a different build. I for example have a grace bow sirin, a courage orengall and a spirit oscelda loadout all saved, each with different weapons/armors/etc.
Think they were talking about Ode Tempest
Ohhhh I thought it was an autocorrect :).
Nah, was talking about Ode Tempest. Whenever there's fantasy I wanna do magic and cast spells so I picked Ode Tempest way back when lol. Used to just try and dodge while recharging the ability, or using the old awkward "sidearm" magic spells
Not understanding how to kill this Bannaret guy. He gets to 1/3 health and just heals himself instantly
There an ally nearby healing them?
No he's casting a spell to heal himself with his staff.
Which pact are you using?
Got it, sorry my mistake. I don't know much about that pact as I havne't gotten it yet.
He slams his staff down and a blue aura comes out of him which heals him quicker than I can kill him
Ah, does he have a grey health bar
What am I supposed to do here
He does have a grey health bar yes
Have you tried stunning them when they do that?
Means your weapon damage is less than armour so it's being reduced to 1 per hit
Find an Avocado and talk to him to start a Faction Tale, if you like
I've killed grey health bar bosses before, and they got them down to 1/3 so they're getting damage across anyways
sounds more like a mechanical problem. Either gotta stagger or stun them when they do that I think
You can kill grey health but it often takes a while
As for stuns, they have increased stagger resist while healing
Ah. I was getting him to 1/3 health, then he'd use his ability to heal himself quite quickly. it's because I wasn't noticing that he was doing an "exhausted" animation which was my invitation to walk over and L click to finish him.
Whats the point of doing that x)
I didn't realise he was doing that, so the exhausted animation ended, and he healed himself to start the battle loop again.
Gives faction XP
So you can level up the faction and buy stuff from them
Poggers, I'm so good
dere izza side quest
What now tho
wid wolf
waitwut :o
twain ur gear, collect motes, run crypt
and level up da factions
Explore, farm, craft, test
lolwut I did Stag>Bear>Wolf
rip that's what I get for skipping a prelude
You can do that yes
you forgot a gameplay loop
Procrastinate and run around in nightfold chatting in recruiting and region
Is there a decent way to level weapons? It's so slow
Totally forgot that
(Reminds me of a game starting with war...)
bein a silly in chat cowre featuwre
Exactly
Endless/Arena. Just Look in recruiting chat
Guess who forgot to interact with the World Tree's x_x
Now im gonna go check and see if I can get people to say UwU in region chat
UwU
2018 is calling
5 people said UwU
GenZ
OwO
The people that stop breathing if they dont have a bird or quest that they can Blindly follow
so meanie D:
It's the truth
This is why we must give them a flopping fish
So many people that write here "I have no quest, pls help"
The only true help is telling them to leave before the addiction takes over
🤣🤣
havvin help can be a convo an can hang out owo
UwU cwans mwe sign Up
Pls stop writing that way
Bwut itsh fwunner
nu :3
jwoin us :3
me been typing wike dis 4 yeawrz uwu
Is Pact level 30 max?
yep
Hey guys, what is y'all's honest opinion on the stag pact?? It feels a bit bad....to me
I'm not looking for folks to tell me reasons why it's good or why it's bad I'm just curious as to what you think
stag could use some help
So you believe it could be better if it was worked on some more?
Thanks for sharing. Anybody else?
bombolcaat
....huh?
Tried following the fextra map to find stags and not a single spot seems to have a spawn so far
yes i know they spawn at night but theres not evven an indicator that they spawn in these spots
There's a bug with the corrupted stags. Sometimes they show up and sometimes they don't. I've had a time whenever one despawned right in front of me
It's probably the same bug that's affecting the king to
afaik they only spawn in the little corrupted pools and i dont see these
dey wook wike blue bubbles
ugh whatever im not gonna farm while the devs actively go out their way to make getting this stuff a nightmare
There is one extremely far north for no reason
I've had a couple of Mora missions there
and dey only spawn at night
hermmm they only spawn at a SPECIFIC TIME anddd you have to farm for all their materials per armor piece anddd you have to kill muultiple to be able to craft one piece of armoro hmm
If we don't make it this annoying, we'll have NO Players! we NEED to do this !
That's not true at all
den me confoosed
Most of the time they spawn in the day for me

Sounds like one of us is bugged LOL
You know what I find amazing about soulframe? Despite the fact that it's still so new and full of bugs it's still very fun and very much a functional game
That in itself is impressive. Just seeing how things develop. Whatever Warframe started out I was fascinated the same way
Hark ye 'membered torment Stag. Rouse thy soul and don thy slag. A spirit of Ichor attempting to mimic the Omen Beast, Garren Rood.
I have a fascination for game coding I think and how coding affects how games operate. Or something like that
it wook wike it spawn during day if it pawrt of faction tales
It also spawns during the day for me if I'm just doing a regular hunt. It's day right now I could probably go and see if he'll spawn
me dunno wut 2 say
Quick question, is there a bug causing progress to be lost? For some reason I need to again release avakot and do the tormented stag quest
Idk
I wasn't present during the wipe so I'm not sure
No this is after I lost my progress when I got the founder pack, did the tormented stag yesterday, now I need to do it again
Say, what are all these keys for? I have like 50 keys.
dat sound buggy, did u do it multiplayer? dat tend to bweak tings
gibin to fwenz
Nah solo
ohwait, u mean crypt keys?
buggy bug
What a cringe way to type
Are you talking about having to redo the fable? Cause it can show up during faction missions, that's normal.
Why?
if it crypt keys, u dey for da cyrpt of the circade
Nah regular keys
me thought u meant game keys
And I don't really know why I'm still receiving crypt keys considering that I cleared the crypt weeks ago
if it just says "Key" those are for chests dat were around where u got da key
No like I have 50 regular keys that I think we're supposed to be treated as like chess keys but the chests don't really lock. I think I've only found three locked chests
So you can repeat it.
I suppose that secret room long line is pretty cool
(there was also a bug where those keys kept duping)
Oh
Not that far into the game, having to release avakot, go to dermak undercity and fight the stag again
hopefully, it savey next time, but dat def a bug.
Had to ignore that weird talking kid
Finally got the Gathanan!
Took me two days to get
And now...Purity, Gathanan, Marrow Bane, Dewallion are all in my palm, waiting their master to use it, for kill every single Ode and Corrupted creature in Midrath!
do u guys play keyboard or controller ?
hello any have free code for try game? pls send me ty
Can someone dm me with a key realy wish to try out the game
been told to not ask for codes here
kb but i've heard that controller is very good too so is down to preference 👀
hey mates, how can i get to this island ?
it used to b gotten to by using wolf form, but dat got patched. me dunno if possible noaw
Yes!, a second Gathannan fragment, I've finally got all the rare fragments I need for all equipment. :)
it does now
they patched it, Gathannan can drop properly now
Going by my Garren fragments (including frags used to make armour) .. I killed atleast 71 stags.
I'm going to keep killing them though, as they're a nice source of blessed joineries.
At some point hopefully we can trade them to other players, or use them to craft higher versions with bigger effects.
hi hi hi.
rusted -> tempered -> polished
blessed iz polished, buh it changes da virtue affinity
which vewwy useful depending on weapon an build
helllo):?
hai bawbie owo
haiii. i just got the game based on videos im very interested.
u can buy da founderz packs an some peepol gib keys
me tink da mods nu want peepol to ask for keys here cuz key spam
oooh which color did you pick
i see isee.
havent gotten that far.
you can’t ask, but you can freely share them
fair!
you bought the founders pack though right
Which one
:o ?
soulframe com
id pick green tho.
im a fairy type of girl.
it gibs u magic wand uwu
so wait. if i buy it will i have access to the game?
$30 per pack or it’s $100 for the Paragon (which is all)
yeh
You can also get codes from the sub Reddit
If you buy the $100 you get like 10 codes and all three of the other founders packs
and if you don’t buy that one, whichever pack you buy reduces the cost of the Paragon one
if u just wunna play da game: all u need is a code
buy it on the website
nu need to buy
or acquire a code somehow
Sometimes they have twitch giveaways
either in here, or Reddit, or the dev streams
up to you tbh
me wike contwoller, both wurk
Anyone know when it’ll release on steam?
long tem. still in pwe-alpha
whats the key channel?
dere not one here
boops ur dms
Ya I played last year but came back for the new prelude 12 release. Got the blue founders pack
I have a quick question. I receive an invitation back in November but I never got around to using it. It is still valid?
how did u get it?
if it wuz sent to ur account, den it will b in ur account settingz if still valid
I received it via email from soulframe. It was during the time of tennocon
nu idea
big smooch
just gib it a twy
mrrrrp uwu
It's a bit late for a response but it doesn't actually use any charges at all because it just doesn't use it when they're orbiting
This may be a stupid question but what is, or rather will be, the point of having just so many duplicate shards for weapons / everything else?
Will they be tradeable? Sellable? Rerollable / combinable?
Has there been any communication on this topic?
currently just something to collect and see how many you can get. there are some plans for them in the future iirc but nothing happenin soon
Hopefully they'll be sellable for like dracs or something. Not that we need it but
I hope there is something to do with them... Or at least just allow to sell them for moneys
Yeah
There will be money sinks in the future surely
I imagine having blueprints of some items may be considered tradable if they're like a limited time though. Would make more sense
I think people overestimate what's gonna be tradeable
I personally assume it'll end up being similar to WF
I can confirm that this has been patched and it is no longer accessible
Can't even fly there to see what's on it using the respawn bird
Truly is a shame. Now my map will forever feel incomplete. And I didn't even know it was there in the first place
I hope they lean more into the shared spaces like faction hideouts for trading and expand it a bit beyond WF. Trading among players is good for creating a community if you do it right and most long lived social games have substantial trading
Can you get three wolves out of pack hunter? Is there a way to do it? Because supposedly it's supposed to scale with spirit and I have 37 Spirit just to see if it was possible and every time that I spawn a third wolf one of the wolves despawns
how can i get an invite to prelude?
A founder has to give you a code. At some point it will become open to the public and free to play but currently that's how it is
It's still in testing
okey, thx
this isn't accurate, there are multiple ways to get keys rn
I just gave them the least expensive way
So it's not inaccurate
Inaccurate would mean that it was false
the least expensive way would be watching a twitch stream
anyways
That still requires time which according to business standards is your most valuable asset. The founder just giving someone a code would be cheaper time wise

