gameplay-discussion

[halcyon thicket]

Console release still far

[pine adder]

it is planned tho

[ivory thunder]

So, I got the event items all crafted, got all the crypt items (armor, talismans, etc.), and am currently working on maxing out factions. Other than that, are there any other quests I should be looking for? I am loving this and want to do as much as I can before the next prelude.

[viral robin]

this game is fantastic, but idk how can i play multiplayer

[abstract spade]

You manually create a squad and invite players

[viral robin]

is this game have a multiplayer like warframe in the future ?

[gentle maple]

Has anyone been having issues with Smite. Like I see the soul glowing but when I try to pull it out it doesn't do it

[civic heath]

Smite sometimes wont do anything its been a problem for a while now

[gentle maple]

I just noticed it really bad these last few days. Thanks for the info

[willow prairie]

Issue 2: I was at full life, spirit. killed a group of banditd and a dog. Healed myself to full then randomly died.
Issue 3: Found a boat off the coast with a chest in it, could not access it becuase of a invisible wall. Near starting zone.
Issue 4: Swimming when I go into water I just sink to the bottom. I assume this will be added later, there is also no breath meter not sure if you can drown?
Issue 5: You have to enable DX12, DX12 should probably be on by default then allow users with old systems to switch back to DX11.

Not Issues: Game play attacks and flow for spirit are fun and engaging. I like the movement, I wish there was a little more dodge controls and fluidity in combat.
Not Issue: Graphics are nice I have only seen light thru walls once and thats pretty good.

[novel stag]

Is there a map with average enemy levels? It's probably the thing I hate the most in this game, I never know where 30+ enemies are

[opal relic]

Having some issues and I hope someone can help...

The map shows a ring like this one, but when I press G to summon the sparrow, it actually took me to the world tree where I could only write a message on the communal message board? My sparrow doesn't seem to be taking me to this location.

[sudden fjord]

North East always has the highest level enemeis i noticed

[gentle maple]

You just have to search that area. The sparrow just leads you to that area.

[opal relic]

Read my original message: the sparrow didn't send me to that area. It actually sent me to the other side of the map, to the world tree, where all I could do was write a message on the board.

[gentle maple]

What objectives do you have. That is usually what happens when you have to find something that can be roaming or there is more than one in the area

In my experience

[opal relic]

It's to free Orangalls cubs

[gentle maple]

Yea they should be one caged up in that area. My sparrow didn't work right for that mission either

You just have to search in the circle for a cage with the cub in it

Crazy as it may sound it could be like in a bush cause it is supposed to be on the edge of it I guess

[edgy sigil]

if you have a map marker on the world tree, the sparrow goes to it.

bird prioritizes your map markers placed by right click over quest/bounty objectives

[maiden raft]

Been playing for about a week. Still pretty new.

How do i get fast travel?

[lean prawn]

Complete the Waste Bear quest (last of the story line).

[maiden raft]

Can i join squads like in Warframe?

[maiden raft]

I did.

Should i try clicking on a world tree?

[lean prawn]

So if you did you should now have a small tree at your nightfold (next to verminia's spot). You have to collect seeds from this tree, they drop 1-3 every 12 real life hours.

If you have seeds in your inventory you can click any tree on the map and travel for the cost of 1 seed

[maiden raft]

Ah. I think i saw something like that there.

[lean prawn]

It wasn't obvious to me, I knew the tree was SOMEWHERE but couldn't find it.

[heady mountain]

Does someone know of a good Cogha Rota?

[keen trout]

can we expect a 4 player multiplayer in the upcoming days?

[raw peak]

does anyone know if ray tracing is on the table for soulframe, with directx 12 raytracing?

[sly escarp]

Love the feedback, but it'll get lost in here! For logging bugs, try #1438224825113120788 . For other feedback, #1438224662344761345

[round fable]

I have a question. I started heading to the south, ended up with a new quest to free the land from the Sinecule, but as soon as I ended up getting that quest, now the entire map is enveloped in a never ending occluding fog that makes it hard to tell if it is day or night and makes it hard to explore. Like did the game bug out?

[storm dust]

my route de loop

spider, gawth, knell, kombucha 1, imp, vella, kombucha 2, (optional) reaper, ruthos, crypt, kernhall, nimrod, (optional) heywilly & Imp 2, wazzard, MK, Curlail, spider

[sly escarp]

You likely ran into a Collector event

Every 6 hours, the Collector will appear in a new zone, the big triangle floating in the air

If you go beneath it there will be enemies you can kill to eventually spawn a boss.

The area has heavy fog and lightning that can be cleared using a Cloudquell, as the lightning buffs the boss.

[raw peak]

What are the Mechanical things leaking fluid into the water, that you destroy the faces on to blow it up. I keep seeing them and i don't know if there is any benefit to destroying them or not

[sly escarp]

Those are moaners, destroying them gives a fair bit of XP

[round fable]

Yeah I can't even find it because the fog is so deep, there is no lightning and it is like no matter where I am in what zone everything is socked in. Lol.

[sly escarp]

You may also need to destroy them as part of Faction Tales

[sly escarp]

Your volumetric fog may be set a touch high then. Do you know where the ship is?

[round fable]

Nope. I have run into it once when doing the Garren Rood questline. But the sounds and everything that normally accompany it? No matter where I go, never hear em.

[hardy pond]

I want to ask something, i can't level up Veremina. I already craft 3 cloudquell and the level bar stopped at 1 and half. I think i need to craft something else, but i can't craft anything beside Cloudquell. Do you guys have any idea? (Sorry for my bad english)

[round fable]

Guess I will have to come back later and see if that main journal quest is still there

[sly escarp]

Hmm...are you near Fort Kearnhold by chance, a ways east on the river?

[round fable]

I gotta go. RL calls.

[sly escarp]

You can get colour pallets and virtue potions at verminia, crafting those will give more Verminia XP

[hardy pond]

How can i do that? Does faction shop has colour palletes?

[sly escarp]

Yeah, those recipes are sold at faction shops

[hardy pond]

Oh i see, thanks!

[dim cedar]

how robust is account switching? I share a computer with another person, and we're both interested in playing

[frigid spoke]

log out, type in new email n password. Switched

[burnt plaza]

Is anyone else crashing a lot when doing endless ?

[outer ice]

I See this a lot since the New Patch

[green frost]

I just want to congratulate the bird watcher at DE who created this event. I will now always be able to recognize the call of a cardinal. I applaud you good soul.

[lean prawn]

The bird sounds are surprisingly good and often snap me back to childhood (spent a lot of time in the woods with my bird obsessed grandparents).

Ahh...just looked up DE's location: they are in Ontario CA, I grew up in norther NY just across the border. I suspect we might have spent time in simillar woods 🙂

[solemn venture]

I feel like Warframe identified previously leveled weapons but I cant recall. This would be a nice little touch. As for re-leveling, no you do not get any skill points nor does it's leveling apply to your main "mastery" level. Now re-creating a weapon to add a joinery might be different but Im not entirely sure on that cuz I havent messed with joineries.

Also I think its 6 by default to encourage you to buy more slots... Just my assumption tho

[lean prawn]

On the subject of weapon UI - it would also be very helpful to see thigns added by runes/totems in the weapon details pages as well.

[digital pilot]

hello you know what is it for? and how did they get runes?

[solemn venture]

When you say MH and OH are you referring to primary weapons and side arms? Im reading it as "Main" / "Off" Hand

I guess more slots would always be nice but they have to draw a line somewhere. Im pretty sure these numbers come from when the weapon amounts were limited as well. As more weapons/types get introduced this may be something they look at but at the end of the day this game is entirely free and while not at the current moment, there will be avenues to gain the currency to increase your inventories to your preferred ideal amount.

[solemn venture]

These are joineries. They are used to modify the attibutes of a weapon. For instance you might want to change a grace based sword to be courage based. However this system is currently not without its flaws and is being reworked. You can dive the joinery rabbit hole if you'd like but I havent cuz I know something is gonna change. Totems are the little animals you save from camps / see running around the forest as well

[outer ice]

Reforging weapons

Runes are from bosses

[fallen trench]

did they patch the oob?

[digital pilot]

k ty

[solemn venture]

They arent really though. You are asking for more slots. They are building their ecosystem. They have given the ability to buy into their vision with the founders packs or enjoy what is available as like you said a "pre-alpha" game. And again like I said once the game is fully realized the entirety of the game will be free to play to include obtaining the premium currency needed to make purchases. DE is one of the better companies in the F2P market and if you somehow think their tactics are "Dirty" or "predatory" I implore you to play any other F2P nonsense for comparison.

[soft gust]

any voice chats yall are sitting in together and playing soulframe and vibing?

[lean prawn]

Its probably worth noting that if you buy one of the founder packs you get like 1000 arcs and you get 4k with paragon...so if you choose to spend money on the game this early you actually get a decent amount of currency to buy slots/items/etc

[maiden geyser]

is there a channel for game mechanic discussion?

if not there should be ><

[fallen trench]

#1438224825113120788, lol

[outer ice]

Just ask

[maiden geyser]

oh geez, lol so many items dont have proper tooltips etc i feel like a channel would also give devs insight to what the can clarify

fine anyways i have 2 things on my mind currently, feybalt joinery does +20 dmg per consecutive hit is there a cap?

[solemn venture]

I dont think its 15-20 but lets say it is. I think as a preludes player which you are. You got access to some small amount of Arcs. Is this still a thing? You might yourself be able to increase your slots without actually buying anything.

[maiden geyser]

also Fel lust is there a duration or a set number of attacks?

[halcyon thicket]

Charges

No timer

[halcyon thicket]

Yes, forgot it tho

[solemn venture]

Is that the Tethern one I heard it was 6 charges. You lose two each time you get hit

[maiden geyser]

how many charges? and do misses remove them?

[halcyon thicket]

7 (should be 5), consumes 2 charges when u miss

U don't consume charges when u get hit

[maiden geyser]

ty

[outer ice]

Avakot.org iirc it's written there

[halcyon thicket]

It's like Warframe, you pay to skip the grind, anything gameplay related earned by money can be farmed

[lean prawn]

I actually do not think this is an unreasonable ask, even as someone who paid for the full Paragon because I really love the game. It shouldn't be required and as yet you can't obtain arcs except through paying (that i know of).

[solemn venture]

I guess but what happens when they create new weapon archetypes? Just keep increasing it? Idk. I see your point but also I can see where it just becomes catering at some point. I think a way to test weapons before comitting to crafting / buying it is something that both soulframe and warframe would be in a players interest.

[granite furnace]

these discussions are always fun to see

[solemn venture]

That makes sense

[cyan torrent]

A way to do it would be base weapons are available to purchase with in game currency.. limit them to 10 levels or something.. gives people chance to get a feel for them before committing to the grind to craft ect..

Ref buying in, I look at is as more of an investment.. any f2p that gets me playing for hours on end will get money from me. I would pay £60 on a aaa title that will bore me in 10 hours.. yet I'll put 1000 hours into a f2p.. warframe for instance.. iplayed the he'll out of it so was happy to invest money into it.. same with warthunder.
Alpha or beta.. doesn't matter to me. Reward me with time, take my money.. but that's just a personal preference and like you neither opinion is incorrect.

[granite furnace]

Time+fun=value. Honestly a great way to look at it

[cyan torrent]

This.. couldn't think of an easy way to put it.. you did lol

[lean prawn]

My benchmark is $X/hr...if I get like 1 hr per $ spent on a game I'm pretty happy. Not much you can do these days for $1 and have an hour's worth of fun.

[solemn venture]

I like heated debate. Sometimes it can get to the root of an underlying issue. Honestly I just love this game.

So far lol

[cyan torrent]

I wouldn't say i have warframe love for it... yet.. potential is there and I'm excited for it

[granite furnace]

I can have fun on a game that Im done with in 10 hours and feel its worth AAA price, and have no fun on a cheap game with many hours of content so thats why I feel the fun factor itself is super important. Dont want devs filling game with content nobody wants

Then again.. Ive spent easily 30 hours alone in Soulframe just mat grinding.. this week

[solemn venture]

I loved the hell out of warframe. I think I love the concepts of soulframe more than warframe's by a lot. So the future definitely has a lot to look forward to.

[pliant breach]

Anyone know how you get a code to play?

[ebon wraith]

by praying before bed

[solemn venture]

The grind is real

[granite furnace]

yeah I cant wait to get home and hunt down some stupid brass and river pearls lol

[pliant breach]

Let me guess, I can get a code if I buy their $100 edition?

[solemn venture]

There have veen ways. Twitch has been pretty reliable for people but with the holidays it will be a bit of a wait

[lean prawn]

You get access plus a bunch of codes to share

[fast horizon]

If we get all the shards for the yultide event items, but not the ingredients to craft them yet, can we still craft them after the event ends?

[lean prawn]

Otherwise they give away a bunch weekly via twitch

[median hazel]

hey guys. what channel do i need to go and beg for a code in? ( i wanna play badly)

[granite furnace]

Theres also a $30 edition

[lean prawn]

I was so excited for this game for that reason. Warframe seemed fun but I didn't like the sci Fi aesthetic and vibes. This is much more my thing

[granite furnace]

I needed something that was just more suitable to my "I have 2 hours to play before I have to return to being a mature responsible adult, or I completely burn out and go to bed for work tomorrow" .. soulframe was perfect lol

[solemn venture]

Oops I swore my bad

[solemn venture]

Im really big into lore. I think one of the things this game needs to set it apart from Warframe is more grandious lore. I hope they go big in the future.

[pliant breach]

Does anyone play Soulframe on the ROG Ally X?

[solemn venture]

Yes as long as they dont change that. All others have been this way

[round fable]

So it all started after the brewer of hues quest.

[lean prawn]

There are some hints of lore already, I think the story will unfold in a very satisfying way. The world already has a feel to it that there's a lot more under the surgace

[sand fiber]

guys, where can i get hallowing rune

[autumn musk]

cogah wizard

[thorn oasis]

Cogah Mode, Wraith of Wastes

[sand fiber]

ok thank you guys

last, can you fill if im lacking more cogah rune...
treefell
windgale
flitsmoke
torrent
hallowing
picktrix

[solemn venture]

Yea for sure. I just want something epic at some point. Like there was all this build up in the streams to Bromius and I hoped we would get a "thicker" arc. I feel like Im completed Bromius in less than an hour. Maybe closer to the 30 min mark. Also I really wish the would write something in the codex lol. All these locations we found names for then still question marks. I know, I know pre-alpha. Thats just the completionist in me.

[lean prawn]

Agree, but we have to wait for the game to evolve, from what I heard warframe had basically no firm lore at launch either, it grew over time. I hope our little scholar ancestor becomes more useful in the future.

[solemn venture]

Yea early days of warframe were way more rough

[thorn oasis]

There's a cogah rune for each weapon type now... looks like you've not listed.. Mistgale, Splitbolt and Durglint.

[sudden fjord]

whats the dagger cogah rune?

i forget about it entirely...

[thorn oasis]

Short Blade: The Flintsmoke

[sudden fjord]

whats that rune do again?

[thorn oasis]

You go invisible and can sneak attack, .. duration extends when you kill something.

[sudden fjord]

ah

[glossy chasm]

hey guys I wondered if there was any plan about adding a matchmaking system maybe like warframe so we can enjoy the multiplayer part more easily than just tchatting ?

[autumn musk]

All cogah from order
mk/sinecure (dungeons)
knell
spider
ruthos
wizard
kombucha & gourdo

[hexed pike]

Are Stultin fragments really rare ?

[twilit lance]

Yep

[autumn musk]

not really

[twilit lance]

I had such an awful time with the mockery weapons that I simply used my paragon arcs to get them

[solemn venture]

Nothing is rare if you farm it enough lol

[twilit lance]

I’m not doing all that

But I’ve had a couple drop, the only issue is that there are 3 mockery weapons and those fragments never want to drop in the first place

[hexed pike]

I can craft 3 full set of the armor, 5 Nurash, and I only got my first Stultin frag, I was just wondering if I was unlucky or if it was rare

[solemn venture]

A little from column A, a little from column B

[hard crow]

Anyone found any semi reliable way to get stag in faction tales, or just as random as it seems?

[twilit lance]

They’re not super duper rare but the odds are stacked against you

I have never had a Stultin fragment drop, only Tessard

[wise sequoia]

my virtue elixirs disappeared from verminia menu, what happened

[twilit lance]

Gotta buy them at factions now

No longer craftable

[autumn musk]

they took away the recipe post thawtide

[wise sequoia]

oh thats great i farmed those grace rare drops for nothin

well ill see y'all on official release to avoid more mishaps

[scenic light]

there is someone slamming that door, from inside, and yelling. Ummm what I do to let him out? or there are some other mechenisms?

and I cannot send images..

the fortress

[thorn oasis]

If he's not busted open the door yet.. he's bugged, heh.

[scenic light]

oh... so he is suppose to bust out.

[thorn oasis]

Yep

[scenic light]

[frigid spoke]

just grab the torch and move towards the firething near the door, he'll bust out

[scenic light]

oh..... welll seems he stuck

so I log off then in will it fix the problem?

[frigid spoke]

Do you have torch in hand and try to light it?

[scenic light]

yea I burnt the orange thingy already

[frigid spoke]

oh then you got the rewards for the event. The boss doesn't drop anythi g

I'd log n come back and try it again in three hours

[scenic light]

cool thanks, ima try re-login

[halcyon thicket]

did you get a reward screen with pose

[scenic light]

I did

[halcyon thicket]

then that's it

[scenic light]

okie

I kinda wanna fight the boss tho lol

[halcyon thicket]

ohhh

[scenic light]

just for the fun

[halcyon thicket]

yeah that breaks the sequence

im curious what score did you get @scenic light

[unborn sierra]

DEs, Will the founder’s pack also be available via Steam?

[halcyon thicket]

i doubt it, but we'll be made aware a while before they remove founders

[scenic light]

C

[halcyon thicket]

makes sense ig

[quaint hamlet]

Which founder pack thingie is the best/funniest one to play x)?

[halcyon thicket]

up to preference really

[lean prawn]

I started with Sirin then upgraded to Paragon. I like Sirin and you are with a bow out of the gate ... But I'm now playing Oscelda and love it. The new event bow is spirit attuned and wasn't hard to get

[granite furnace]

I picked Sirin originally just because I liked ranged stuff and blue lol
3 days later I just got all 3/Paragon

Besides you can eventually unlock all the pacts

[lean prawn]

I only leveled Tethren to like 6 so far, can't say if it's good but everyone said it's powerful. Longsword is fun but I probably would still say a bow is easier to start with.

If I were buying right now and only could get 1 it'd be Oscelda and I'd try to get the new sprit bow ASAP.

[unreal lagoon]

Hello, how can i find thawtide items fragment? Is there a special location for this items

[quaint hamlet]

Cool, thanks 🙂 How long is thw Bow available?

[lean prawn]

Till thawtide ends:
Thawtide will run until January 30th, 2026, at 2 p.m. ET.

At least according to https://www.soulframe.com/en/news/happy-thawtide

[quaint hamlet]

Ah, enough time okay

Cool, gonna give it a try! Saw some clips on YT

Game looks nice so far 🙂

[lean prawn]

Even in the early state I find it almost stupidly fun to just run around, look at things and fight.

[scenic light]

so there is no fast travel right?

[austere trail]

Brother this game does not need raytracing

[lean prawn]

There is but it requires an item you only get a few of per day

[granite furnace]

The push for rsytracing was always kinda weird ngl like I feel like a lot of games just look better without it

[scenic light]

do I craft the item or...?

[halcyon thicket]

no, you just collect it, once every 12 hours

[austere trail]

Raytracing is by and large unnecessary with modern lighting engines. In video rendering, raytracing is AMAZING and can take your render to the next level but videogames don't need it lol

[scenic light]

collect it from... an in-game place or some GUI?

[halcyon thicket]

Have you played the waste bear fable

[scenic light]

you mean fighting with the 3 head bear and then plant the seed quest line?

[vivid cliff]

waste bear is the 3 headed one?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

mhm

[scenic light]

yup I did

[halcyon thicket]

@scenic light

[scenic light]

got it! thank you!

[halcyon thicket]

np

[austere trail]

Anyone have any recommendations for Ode Tempest? I'm at bond 21 and still don't get it

[halcyon thicket]

as in what it does?

[austere trail]

As in gameplay style. I know what the abilities do but they don't feel effective at all

[outer ice]

Ode got nerfed hard and the abilities just feel weak. It is what it is

[halcyon thicket]

yes, the pact was reworked so it may have lost it's identity along the way

right now it's mostly a stagger heavy pact

so bring hard hitting weapons, to take advantage of enemies getting stunned

[austere trail]

It feels like most of the stagger relies upon me getting smacked

[halcyon thicket]

it does, yes

[austere trail]

At which point I might as well use mora

[vivid cliff]

before I get frustrated again, are there any tips for picking off some enemies withouth alrerting all of them? seems like every time I try to pick off one or two the entire contry descends on me...

[autumn musk]

sirin ?

[quaint hamlet]

Do we lose progress when the full game launches?

[halcyon thicket]

lol, the detection system isa little wonky atm

[austere trail]

Outside of selective sneak attacks and sirin, not really

[outer ice]

No

[austere trail]

No

[outer ice]

No, sometimes they smell you across the map and sometimes you can walk side by side

[dire bane]

Hello lovely people. If my friend and I are about to do the bear quest, will the completion count for both of us or we will need to do it twice?

[vivid cliff]

what is Sirin? I am a oscealda or something like that (even thought the Wyld Oscealda is available to me; I am not sure if I need to start completely over).

[austere trail]

If you're far enough away, you can snipe enemies without alerting them but you have to be FAR

[halcyon thicket]

both

[austere trail]

A different pact. Also, there is no starting over lol. You can get everything

[vivid cliff]

ty my staff doesnt go very far. if I am 20+ yards away it just hits the ground

[austere trail]

Just level up rbh

Make use of your pact

[vivid cliff]

rbh?

[austere trail]

And stay to low level areas

[vivid cliff]

"really beinbg honest?"

[austere trail]

tbh*

[vivid cliff]

oooh ok

ty!

[austere trail]

It sounds like you may have wandered a bit far north or south for your equipment

[dire bane]

Thank goodness 😄

[scenic light]

if you reforge a weapon many times it stack up? or it overwrites

[halcyon thicket]

overwrites

and consumes old joinery

[scenic light]

ok, thanks

[valid birch]

How do I know when my standing is capped for the day?

[halcyon thicket]

you stop earning XP when summary ui shows

[valid birch]

sometimes I see it move a little, other times i see it move by thousands, I am unsure sometimes

[halcyon thicket]

yeah it needs to change

[lean prawn]

That reminds me of something: if you hit the xp limit for a certain level of faction, what happens to additional XP you earn? Does it get "lost"?

I hit faction lvl3 last night, which cost 20k. When I check "where do I stand" it says I'm lvl 3 with 0 faction XP. But when I am out questing and get xp it says 32k ...

[frigid spoke]

you lose it

[lean prawn]

That's awesome...

[thorn oasis]

The questing faction xp display lists the xp stuck tied up in previous ranks. It's a lil misleading.

[lean prawn]

It also doesnt tell you that you've capped the xp for a level so you just waste a bunch of time...not a great system overall.

[smoky crater]

well it does when it stops going up
sort of

[outer ice]

True, but game is alpha so yeah

[lean prawn]

Very true, not mad about it. I am not really trying to grind faction or anything, I just run tales when I happen to be near one.

[unreal lagoon]

Do you guys know easiest way to find dendrit weaves?

[halcyon thicket]

very common loot, destroy boxes

and kill enemies

[thorn oasis]

It can also buy a pile of them off Avakot, too. When he has it listed.

[maiden geyser]

Grynnetongue? somehow i have 3 but no idea where it comes from

[halcyon thicket]

corrupted areas i think

[maiden geyser]

is that like the white/black areas on the map?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[umbral basin]

is there currently a way to fast travel?

[smoky crater]

yeee, from those places. not too common tho

[smoky crater]

after completing The Waste Bear fable, yes

[valid furnace]

Which do you recommend, archer or mage? I like both, but I'm looking for one that does damage.

[smoky crater]

limited however.

[smoky crater]

both deal a good amount imo, would honestly just say go for the one that you like better

[outer ice]

I play tethren bow with the torrent Rune. Melts

[smoky crater]

pretty sure they're just starting out ._.

[outer ice]

Could be yes

[valid furnace]

I started as an archer, maybe at the blacksmith I'll change it to a walking stick

[smoky crater]

[valid furnace]

I can use a secondary weapon with the staff

[smoky crater]

there are secondary (sidearm) magick weapons too

[lean prawn]

They don't feel as impactful or satisfying IMO as bows. Bows are really well done in this game.

[whole vale]

So idk if the bug got fixed but I got the mirror puzzle where you have to break a part of the beam

[valid furnace]

I see very few mages in the game; the vast majority are archers or swordsmen.

[smoky crater]

like... enemies?

mages are a bit more on the rare side yeah

[whole vale]

Mages are about as rare as healers. Not to be confused because they are both wearing white outfits. But mages can't heal

[smoky crater]

the mages are also healers

[whole vale]

I don't think

[smoky crater]

they are yes

[halcyon thicket]

only one mage-type enemy rn

[whole vale]

Oh, welll in that case some healers don't do their job

[smoky crater]

they don't heal all the time no

[halcyon thicket]

well, does the double mace wielding enemy that casts something on it's allies count as mage

[smoky crater]

oh the red coated dual axe sinecure?

[whole vale]

Double mace? You mean double dagger?

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[whole vale]

Wait they're labeled as an axe?

[thorn oasis]

A common MMO player, specing full DPS and not caring about others. ;)

[smoky crater]

i'd guess it's probably either like a damage buff or a damage reduction

[halcyon thicket]

now that i think about it yea theyre axes lol

[whole vale]

????

[smoky crater]

well the red coated ones do have axes yes, the quick moving black outfitted ones have dual daggers/shortblades, not to be confused with the other black outfit wearing sinecure that have a longblade

[whole vale]

They're so small. I had no idea they were axes

[thorn oasis]

Just a joke about 'glass cannon' builds being common in MMOs like WoW, STO, ESO, etc.., sorry.

[whole vale]

It's not usually hard to differentiate the ones with dual daggers versus the ones with long blades. The ones with dual daggers usually have a hood rather than a helmet

[valid furnace]

A wizard can carry a staff and a dagger.

[smoky crater]

yaya

[whole vale]

Don't they also have a bow that they never use? They wear something on their back

[smoky crater]

i dont think the dual shortblade sinecure do

[whole vale]

I'm trying to remember what they have that they never use

I think it's just an aesthetic

I'll have to go back to the tree dungeon to take a look

[smoky crater]

well not really a mage but there's an enemy in faction tales only that has the intel scroll that is wearing a white coat but also a long blade

[valid furnace]

I'd like to make a wizard with a staff and dagger, but I see that daggers use grace.

[whole vale]

Wizards use Grace too

range

[smoky crater]

oh oh oh

found a pic of one of them dual shortblade ones from yesterday

that i.... amputated. accidentally tho! it was an accident

[whole vale]

Ashelda, staff, dagger. Ta-da

[smoky crater]

Oscelda?

[whole vale]

I can't spell and autocorrect is mad at me

It really hates the terms of the game

[smoky crater]

lmao

[outer grove]

Man, kill 15 stag today and jus drop one piece of Gathanan fragment, fr man?

[whole vale]

Wait so you guys are telling me that this is an axe and not a dagger??

[thorn oasis]

15 is a low number for Gathannan fragments, well done.

[lean prawn]

https://soulframe.wiki.gg/wiki/Virdigris scales with sprit

[outer grove]

How rare was this, even rare then Dewellion

[smoky crater]

i forgot they use the Unsula

[whole vale]

@lean prawn so if you're willing to put in the work? Then you can actually make any weapon align with either courage Grace or spirit

So it doesn't matter

[thorn oasis]

I've been at just 1 fragment for the last 40-ish stag kills.

[outer grove]

Does Stag in faction tale dropped Gathanan fragment?

[thorn oasis]

Yes

[whole vale]

It dropped something

[outer grove]

I'm already have all 3 star weapon that can be crafted, except Gathanan

[whole vale]

Star?

[thorn oasis]

I took a break from killing stags, to instead work on the remaining cogah runes for my collection... just two left to get, from Dimrod and Wraith

[outer grove]

I have that plenty

[outer grove]

Star isn't it?

[thorn oasis]

3 virtue attunment.

[whole vale]

I don't know that's why I'm asking you LOL

[whole vale]

Oh that.

Star you know I like that @outer grove

[proud slate]

Is there a way I can change my class If I chose warrior and want to switch to archer?

[smoky crater]

you can craft other pacts yes

[whole vale]

......yes

[outer grove]

I'm mean rarity of weapon l

Lol

[whole vale]

Uhhhhhhhhhh...... I don't know if I would call any weapons where at this point aside from the founders weapons

It's a bit early to be calling weapons rare. I guess that primary dagger is rare since it's in a limited Time event

[outer grove]

Not hard to get tho

[whole vale]

It took me three full days of farming to be honest with you. Three 16-hour days

So although it may not be hard to get, it's still hard to get

You know what I mean?

[dreamy canyon]

hello, is there any solution to when we ring the bell for King but he does not spawn?

[smoky crater]

all the bosses have a spawn cooldown

[whole vale]

Nope. It's a hit or miss nowadays

Sometimes he shows up and sometimes he doesn't

[dreamy canyon]

yeah it should be off cooldown 🙁

[smoky crater]

[outer grove]

Then I'm kind of lucky then, cuz I'm get the dagger and bow at first day of event

[whole vale]

U are

[thorn oasis]

Has it been over 3 hours since last kill? (yes, it's still 3 hours for the king, even though the rest are 30 mins)

[dreamy canyon]

oh then it that case, maybe not, I asked in chat and they said 30min my bad 😄

[outer grove]

Tomorrow continues on farm Stag, for my final fragment of Gathanan, wish me luck

[thorn oasis]

When they adjusted the respawn time, they missed the king

[whole vale]

Daaaaaaaayyyyum

I'm becoming more and more glad that I bought the king armor whenever I first started 🤣

[outer grove]

The Mendicant King should change name to The Forgotten King, since game dev forget to adjust his respawn time

[lament path]

I just logged in once in a while to beat his ass for all of his items

[smoky crater]

didn't mendicant king used to be called the tired king or somethin at first?

like on the devbuild side?

[whole vale]

That would have been the smarter option but I didn't know any better I just looked at the helmet and said "ooh shiny"

I got his sword though

[lament path]

Tbf it takes a while if you are unlucky since he has four items you might want

[whole vale]

Right

It took me a whole day

[dreamy canyon]

what are "Alca's nooks?" for Sacred Shimmer

[whole vale]

My goodness I really hope they don't change bromius. It makes dungeon looting such a breeze

[smoky crater]

sacred shimmer is only from factions shops atm

the "Alca's nooks" part was probably some plan that didn't go thru or somethin like that

[dreamy canyon]

thank you!

[whole vale]

You know the fact that avakot only sells 10 of any metal at a time, I wonder if it's because of the lore realistic weight of the character, or if in the game the rarity of brass is supposed to be the same rarity as steel and iron

[smoky crater]

brass... is and should be the same rarity as steel and iron

[lament path]

Balance reasons most likely because he can also sell multiple 100s of materials.

We also dont exactly know how much each piece weighs do we?

[whole vale]

Yeah right. I have 700 iron and 700 steel. Meanwhile throughout the entirety of my forge I need 135 brass and it took me two whole days to get 55 brass

I KNOW you lion

[smoky crater]

which is why i also said should be

[whole vale]

You said "is and should be"

[smoky crater]

for me tho brass is the one i have most of with steel 2nd and iron 3rd

[lament path]

Statistical outlier right here

[smoky crater]

and not really with massive differences between them either with like 4.6k brass, 4.2k steel and 3.6-3.7k iron

[unreal lagoon]

Is Banneret has spawn time? Night or day?

[halcyon thicket]

which one

[whole vale]

@smoky crater dagger. Not axe

You really had me itching my brain

[smoky crater]

yes i know

i did say "i forgot they use the unsula" and i do know the unsula are dual shortblades

[whole vale]

Rascal 🤣

[smoky crater]

[whole vale]

My brain would not stop screaming at me "it's not an axe right? Please tell me it's not an axe? It's not an axe? Is it an ax it could be an axe no it's not an axe"

[halcyon thicket]

there

[smoky crater]

i knew it!

[whole vale]

OHHHHHHH wait wat??

I'M SO CONFUSED

[lament path]

There are no axes for the envoy unless they are delivered into us

[halcyon thicket]

watch
https://youtu.be/7dKoa5_fIGE?t=299

[autumn musk]

twin basolk confirm

wait no

[whole vale]

Wait, so we can't use axes yet? 😭😭😭

[unborn moat]

i hate cogah farming :/ i wish the stuff wasnt exclusive to there. is there any plans to make it more accessible?

[smoky crater]

not as far as we know

[whole vale]

That is genuinely sad

[halcyon thicket]

we have an axe even in the display rack in nightfold tent

[lament path]

I always thought the polearm category was the axe category with the icon

[smoky crater]

and i wouldn't really say the stuff should be made more accessible considering why would you go into cogah in that case

[whole vale]

But it's probably because they would have to make it a bludgeoning weapon which is a different type because our weapons currently are all Sharp right?

[lament path]

We also dont have blunt weapons

[vagrant kayak]

Rook is blunt

[lament path]

oh wait

[whole vale]

Indeed, rook is blunt.

[halcyon thicket]

rook looks like it's made of plastic for me and idk why

[whole vale]

I've never seen that weapon before either

It must be new

[smoky crater]

the good ol' chesspiece lightpole

[vagrant kayak]

Rook? One of the oldest weapons we have actually

[whole vale]

I thought it was a butter churner

[vagrant kayak]

But it's exclusive to Silent Rose now I think

[smoky crater]

when was it added like... Preludes 1.3 was it?

[whole vale]

Oh that checks out. That's why it's been under my radar.

[vagrant kayak]

Well the fragments for it were in since P1 IIRC but it was bugged to never drop

[smoky crater]

a

i just remember the mad hunt for it at one point

[whole vale]

I wish purity swung faster.

[unreal lagoon]

guys ı'm doing faction quests but ı can't find bannered? Is he has spawn time or something?

[smoky crater]

add an attack speed totem on it

[whole vale]

No even after that it's still not enough for me

[smoky crater]

faction tales aren't guaranteed to end with a banneret

[whole vale]

Probably because I get knocked down so much using it

[smoky crater]

greatswords are kinda different to other weapons in the way that you kinda have to adapt your playstyle to how they work more than with other types

[lament path]

I mostly use light attacks with purity since it already hits like a truck

[unreal lagoon]

but in the map there's a quest mark about slaying the banneret

[whole vale]

@smoky crater The thing about purity is that I want to add both magick armor and 16% Perry window on it but I can't have both

[lament path]

If I got time for a heavy I got time for a throw

[smoky crater]

does it mention the undercity or the glades of andurin?

[smoky crater]

ah

[whole vale]

Yeah. So I get kind of stuck

Meanwhile a long sword is much easier to Parry with and has a perk to give you even a bigger a Parry window

That being said though, because it swings so slow the damage is immaculately beautiful

[smoky crater]

do be nice to do a single heavy swing and just smack 2-3 enemies at once

[whole vale]

Also I don't really like the finisher animation. It looks so...... Not polished

[smoky crater]

the ground finisher or the one you can do on staggered enemies?

[whole vale]

The staggered enemy 1

[smoky crater]

[lament path]

Fire rune and/or finishers with the aoe attack rune works wonders on hordes

[whole vale]

I usually let the hordes dish out at each other until one side dies and that I finish off the scraps of the battlefield

I mean I understand why the enemies attack each other but at the same time shouldn't they all just be attacking the envoy instead?

You know? Common enemy blah blah blah

[smoky crater]

mockeries and slugs are hardly.... smart

[whole vale]

Yeah but the other party usually is

[unreal lagoon]

There is an underground entrance, but branches are blocking the door.

[smoky crater]

can you show a screenshot of where you are on the map?

because i might have an idea

[whole vale]

That's because you found an exit and not an entrance

Exits are only one way

[smoky crater]

yes that is true too

[whole vale]

This is why I only use entrances. Because then you leave the dungeon exactly where you entered it and you can re-enter immediately

[smoky crater]

i'm just wondering if you found the exit that is pretty much in the same area as the entrance that you get to from the Mines of Borro cave entrance

bit of a notorious dungeon entrance and exit combo

[whole vale]

Oof

Oh my, the steel singers stithywick, hubba hubba

[smoky crater]

[whole vale]

@smoky crater wanna to see a screenshot???

[smoky crater]

oh dw i know

[whole vale]

Fgfdgxfbcf

[smoky crater]

i have seen.... many things.

[whole vale]

It works really really great with the Oscelda helmet to

[smoky crater]

many things you can't even imagine

[whole vale]

Oh trust me it's not hard to imagine

[smoky crater]

no i mean it
when it comes to stuff i've seen in this game

[normal moss]

Can you pcikpocket Agari? For example Vella (I cant get Dewelion)

[smoky crater]

nop

the Agari itself doesn't even give any loot. it's just the shroom it spawns

[lament path]

If you could pickpocket the fragments people would almost only use syrin in boss fights, and yeah the loot comes from the shroom

[halcyon thicket]

Ah but can you pickpocket the shroom!

[smoky crater]

[outer ice]

Shroom has no pockets

[smoky crater]

doesn't mean you can't pick them

[halcyon thicket]

Nokko might disagree

[whole vale]

This is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 AWESOME AHAHAHAHA

[lament path]

You pick the shroom you do not pickpocket the shroom

[whole vale]

@smoky crater should I go into a enclave like this?

[smoky crater]

ah yeah the exact spot i was thinking about

[unreal lagoon]

What should i do?

[smoky crater]

go to the location marker just south of you, enter the cave, and the dungeon entrance should be at the other end of that cave

that one specifically

[unreal lagoon]

Damn

Thank you

I'm looking for the entrance at least an hour hahah

[digital pilot]

what is the bird feeder for?

[edgy sigil]

feeding birds

[digital pilot]

and so? what do I win?

[halcyon thicket]

Sparrows skins

[edgy sigil]

• New event Talisman "Cardinal Charm", low drop rate
• Bird skin "Lord Cardinal" and "Lady Cardinal", high drop rate
  https://wiki.avakot.org/Thawtide

[median willow]

Hello alll! Wher can drop this rune?

[halcyon thicket]

Mendicant king in cogah

[rain sundial]

I am pressing F but nothing is happening

[halcyon thicket]

Light it up

Is this kearnhold

[rain sundial]

Oh

[lament path]

Yeah you need a torch for that

[rain sundial]

Lordy lol

[native cloak]

Are you guys maxing weapons and deleting them or just leaving them in inventory?

[outer ice]

Leaving and buy space from camel

[edgy sigil]

I got lots of arcs from Paragon so I have a nice collection of weapons

[thorn oasis]

I'm hoarding ALL the weapons... but I'm also a paragon, heh.

[native cloak]

Cuz would love to keep them all; collector mindset but space is getting up to me :V

[edgy sigil]

write down what you mastered in a notepad or something we currently don't have a way to see if you already mastered a weapon after selling it

[thorn oasis]

Well, a weapon slot is 10 arcs.. that seems like a small amount, real-money wise.

[tropic isle]

For 5 EUR you can get 15 weapon slots. Game is free. Like come on.

[rain sundial]

I can’t open this door? I have also tried attacking it

[lament path]

Kick it perhaps

[tropic isle]

I know everyone's budgets are different, but it's the cost of a crappy gas station sandwich and a Coke

[thorn oasis]

It's probably an exit door, blocked from the other side

[lament path]

Could be an exit door too yeah

[granite furnace]

You get 3500 arcs if you get Paragon, which should be enough for any slots you need at this stage

[tropic isle]

Yeah but the difference between 5 EUR and 99 EUR is vast 😄

[rain sundial]

Kicking no work lol

[rain sundial]

Ohh

[valid furnace]

Does anyone know where I can get plans for the walking sticks?

[granite furnace]

Excuse you I love me some gas station sandwiches 😤

[tropic isle]

I am not 99 EUR to blow on Paragon rich

[tropic isle]

I am too, I just wish they were consistently good 😛

So just so I understand: if you rank 30 a weapon and sell it, when you recraft it, you will be rank 30 in it?

[edgy sigil]

sometimes I forget I paid a hundred bucks for this game lmao

[edgy sigil]

nope it's back to 0

and you won't get envoy rank exp by leveling it again either

[tropic isle]

Don't get me wrong, for the amount of time I see myself playing this, 99 EUR is a fine investment, especially with all the extra stuff you get (including 3.5k of arc).
I am just not there atm. Perhaps next year I will treat myself.

[tropic isle]

Meh. Seems like it's worth just keeping them then

(By buying more weapon slots)

[edgy sigil]

yeah video games are still the cheapest entertainment looking at a cost per hour ratio so I'm not too bothered

[granite furnace]

I just wish I knew how many weapon slots I started with as a base lol

[tropic isle]

it's 6

[granite furnace]

Oh lol

Not bad for free base. But not enough. Gimme 30 lol

[tropic isle]

Yeah lol

The counts don't really make sense on that bottom page in the camel menu:
It says 3 for the loadouts and you have 3, but for weapons and pacts it starts on 0 - but you do have base numbers you start with

[whole kestrel]

guys where can i out the key of the game?

[zenith knoll]

would you save him?

[tropic isle]

For a River Pearl

[digital pilot]

on the other hand, do you know what the secondary weapon is for? personally I never use it I play stick

[tropic isle]

Do you mean the sidearm?

[smoky crater]

for the same reason you'd ever have a 2nd weapon equipped at the same time

[edgy sigil]

• bromius pew pew with courage odiac while I wait for buttslam
• invis mode with flitsmoke after a bow smite

[tropic isle]

Some weapons are versatile enough to not need a backup (sword and shield, long sword, greatsword, polearm)
Other weapons (mostly ranged weapons in my experience) need a buddy for when people get in your face

Or in the case of Odiac, a ranged option to compliment a melee primary

Speaking of Odiac, I love it so much lol. Just got it a few hours ago

[twilit lance]

Great sword is so worth having a ranged option for

[tropic isle]

I hope we get more funky Magick weapons that don't adhere to traditional weapon shapes like melee / bows

[twilit lance]

Sometimes the situation doesn’t call for ooga booga

Bow and dagger is very goated though

[edgy sigil]

the little hover tech you can do while attacking with odiac feels so good

[digital pilot]

@tropic isle ok that's what I say to myself thank you afterwards I don't have much at the moment in melee handgun with the spirit element

[tropic isle]

Yeah my main loadout has evolved into bow + dagger, it's very good

Second loadout is polearm axe + Odiac

[lean prawn]

Same, I wish we could run bow + other things (like longsword). Hopefully we get a sidearm shortbow at some point. More bow more better

[tropic isle]

Yeah a shortbow for Sidearm makes sense, less potent than a longbow but still a ranged option

[smoky crater]

maybe crossbows might be sidearms

[thorn oasis]

It's a shame I can't put Rostrum in my sidearm slot, heh.

[tropic isle]

Dual crossbows

[digital pilot]

on the other hand there is no mount in the game? because personally I find that there is a lack of means to teleport at times you have to hike it for certain things

[smoky crater]

no mounts yet

they're coming eventually.

[lean prawn]

I would really like to see crossbows as both (big ones as main, little one as side arm). Or ... go the warframe route and let us have sperate range and melee slots 🙂

For now though bow + dagger is ridiculously fun

[tropic isle]

It will probably evolve into this, depending on if simple guns are coming I guess

[smoky crater]

but you can fast travel to world trees if you have completed The Waste Bear fable and have wevetseeds, which are consumed on fast traveling

[tropic isle]

There is a lore lead-in for firearms

[tropic isle]

Mounts are always a good option in these kinds of games. Not everyone likes teleporting, it's good to have a journey (just a faster one lol)

[edgy sigil]

I'm calling it, we're getting more firearms with a pirate patch where we go to another island

[smoky crater]

yes i did mention like 3 messages above that mounts are coming

[edgy sigil]

kraken omen beast

[tropic isle]

I'm calling it: gunblade 😄

Heavy attack is pew pew

[smoky crater]

well in Salzbrims lore there is a whale mentioned sooo...

[tropic isle]

I personally would love a Sidearm that's just a pile bunker kind of blade, long windup but devastating against armor

[lean prawn]

The ode have space ships so...guns don't seem too high tech

[edgy sigil]

yesssss

[tropic isle]

And perhaps a short cooldown so you can't abuse it too much

[smoky crater]

hardly sounds like a sidearm tbf

[tropic isle]

I'm just going off Odiac because it's perma-equipped on your arms, this would be that but on one arm.
But yes. It does sound strong. 😄

[halcyon thicket]

Remember how cobladh was displayed in founders pictures? Yeah...

[tropic isle]

Honestly there's loads of potential for weird af weaponry, with magick / steam power

[digital pilot]

thank you for the info I just looked so it's really not clear how to get it but I succeeded and on the other hand can we only have one per day?💀

[tropic isle]

You get 3 per day

[smoky crater]

1-3.

12 hour cooldown

on picking them up*

[tropic isle]

Oh I thought it's a guaranteed 3 when you harvest?

[smoky crater]

no

[digital pilot]

ho ok 💀 look forward to the frames

[tropic isle]

Must have gotten lucky until now then 😮 Thanks for the heads-up

[tropic isle]

I want a pact that lets you hover when you move around, like Lune in Expedition 33

That would be... wait for it... fly 😄

Purely for aesthetic reasons of course, I just really like gliding around in that game, always select Lune as my controllable character

[whole vale]

Welp, found Reaper for the first time. I never thought I would run into a dungeon boss

[waxen needle]

hey guys. Any1 knows what can I do? i cant log in

[soft gust]

They should let you share totems in a party

[vivid cliff]

my computer turns into a full-on spaceheater whenever running this game. anyone else have the same thing? I wonder what makes this game so resource heavy

[whole vale]

If you have a squad of four people that would be a 12 stat boost to every virtue to all players. That's overpowered

[finite rock]

Arent the Agari supposed to respawn every 30 mins? Unless theres something i dont understand, the Medicant King doesnt actually respawn every 30 mins.

[vivid cliff]

it sure would help put down the 17 other enemies that pop in from all over the place though... (although I dont recall that happening in bossfights, only openworld).

[whole vale]

Well some bosses spawn extra enemies

I mean it's an ability on cool down but it's still an ability

[autumn musk]

double the hp of bosses /player in a party

[soft gust]

I'm saying when you pick them up in the same world

[opal moon]

hey all! ❤️ does anyone know what the stars on the weapons and armor stand for? if anything?

[smoky crater]

the stars just indicate the "rarity" of the weapon

common weapons will be 1 star, uncommon 2 star, rare 3 star

same goes with resources etc.

[opal moon]

strange... because with the pacts, my partner has both a bromius and an orengall that's 2 star, and one that's 3 star

[smoky crater]

the 3 star one is a bug

there are no 3 star pacts

[rain sundial]

My bird keeps leading me to nowhere in this siege thing that I already completed

[visual heron]

The one that's a 3 star is likely a fragment to build a pact rather than a built pact.

[opal moon]

hmmm. okie. same with the mora's hand pact that you can get from the kith of kings? that one shows up as 3 stars

[smoky crater]

what koji just said ye

[visual heron]

Those are the fragments.

[opal moon]

ohhhhh okay!

thanks so much!!

[visual heron]

Happy to help!

[rain sundial]

What does the flashing orange on the compass mean

[visual heron]

That means you're in an area of interest. Something is nearby, a rare chest or Avakot shop, or your objective.

[rain sundial]

And then the arrows are telling me what floor its on

Weird I don’t see anything in this area

[twilit lance]

Even though bow is good enough by itself, dagger just gives you extra options + obviously is the better option in short range for sanity’s sake + flintsmoke

You get a good mix of fun and “i don’t wanna deal with those guys” bow action, as well as torrent silliness

Because torrent is BUSTED, like it feels great and I love it but enemies genuinely can’t do anything against it

I love using it and then using my dagger to execute staggered enemies

[cold plinth]

Where does one farm for Verite Blessed By Iridis

[tropic isle]

Is there some reliable place on the map to find Will-o-wings?

I need 22 friggin things from them for the Avo palette

[torpid marlin]

Ugh. Cardinal charm is way too rare to get fragments for, I have 1/3 and I've gotten everything else, multiple sets of most of it

[tropic isle]

😅

What's good about it? Haven't made one yet

[torpid marlin]

I've smashed like 30-40 of the squawkers by now too

Oh, it's mostly just I want to complete all the seasonal stuff

[tropic isle]

Ah okay gotcha

[torpid marlin]

and it's cute

[tropic isle]

No doubt about that 😄

[thorn oasis]

It' took me about 80-ish squawkers to get my cardinal charm.

[torpid marlin]

Objectively speaking, it's not particularly special at 1/1/2 bonuses

[tropic isle]

I must have gotten really lucky then because I've only done maybe 40 squakers in total (I have 25 fragments for the feeder currently and I've already gotten enough fragments to craft both the birds, and have 6 of this talisman fragment)

[umbral dawn]

does anyone know for the founders pack am i able to wait until next month to buy it or is this month the last time to buy founders pack until the next time it comes out?

[thorn oasis]

The founder FAQ states: "There is no end date for Soulframe Founders as of yet. If you're interested, we encourage you to join us in crafting Soulframe together. We will give at least 30 days notice before closing Founders to give Envoys ample time to decide."

[umbral dawn]

ah ok thanks

[twilit lance]

I need them to add talisman to transmog because I want to use it so bad

But I love my 30/30/5 spread

[valid birch]

What time do rep caps reset?

[thorn oasis]

Midnight, UTC

Soo.. 29 mins from now. And you'll need to relog afterward for it to take effect.

[valid birch]

Thank ya sir!

[sterile pine]

its the sword that taunts me

[thorn oasis]

Are the talismans and second set of runes all that is exclusive to cogah?, because.. I finally got all the runes to drop, heh. Just checking if there's more before I leave.

[mint zinc]

Are there any mentions of wipes?

[sterile pine]

if you mean account wipes? there's no more planned

[thorn oasis]

They're avoiding any wipes from this point on. So unless something catastrophic happens, we'll keep everything from this point on.

[mint zinc]

Very cool, thank you both!

[sterile pine]

no more "game is on fire burn it"

[thorn oasis]

Cogah Dimrod was being so stubborn with his rune.. but I was more persistent!, muahahaa (Every red mushroom ring is a kill)

There was a couple more mushroom rings outside the screenshot too, heh.

[fallen gyro]

Is picktrix even good

[thorn oasis]

I.. don't know, but my inner hoarder wanted it ;)

I believe I have everything from cogah now... aand back to the weapon grind. Also, stag killing, because Gathannan hates me.

[fallen gyro]

I just need flintsmoke

I got torrent three times before flintsmoke dropped once

[thorn oasis]

I lucked out on Flintstone.. got it on the first spider kill.

[autumn sleet]

Anyone have any tips for a successful cogah solo run?

[thorn oasis]

Play carefully, avoid combat where you can. When you need to refill your health, goto Nighthold and briefly switch your pact.

[autumn sleet]

I thought going to nighthold ends the run?

[fallen gyro]

Play Tethren 😂

[thorn oasis]

Logging out, fleeing from a boss and dying ends the run.

[autumn sleet]

How many bosses are there I think I might have missed a few, I typically just attempt the ones in center then move towards ne

[past schooner]

Ok has anyone gotten brass since the update? 👎or👍
Edit: from loot

[autumn sleet]

As a drop, loot, or bought? And scrap?

[thorn oasis]

Lots of it.. I usualy goto Fort Curlail and loot all the polearm racks outside and inside, .. if you don't kill the archer boss inside, you can relog and do it again and again as needed.

[autumn sleet]

I think it might be the areas I farm, mostly steel and brass not much iron

[past schooner]

I mean someone and I ran undercity and we didn't get a single piece of brassbut im sitting on 70 iron and 90 steel

[autumn sleet]

Undercity is quite random

[thorn oasis]

Brass doesn't come from the undercity's sword racks, only iron / steel.

Sword rack -> Iron / Steel. Polearm rack -> Iron / Brass / Steel

[past schooner]

Aaah im guessing siege are gonna be better for that

[autumn sleet]

What happens if you do a siege while under cogah effects?

[thorn oasis]

I.. didn't try that, heh.

[autumn sleet]

I mean technically can't we do everything while under the effect as long as we don't die, log, or flee a boss right? Maybe dungeon too 🤔

[thorn oasis]

You can certainly do dungeons, as there are a few dungeon Agari

I took them slower than normal, because health is a more precious resource in cogah.

[autumn sleet]

Maybe for some puzzles we need too 😧

[mystic valley]

Is there any form of in-game, drop-in/drop-out matchmaking yet similar to Warframe's?

[thorn oasis]

No, just manual invites.

[fringe spindle]

ainda consigo jogar , fui convidado no mes 7 ?

[wraith condor]

Is there a way to change classes? I was in the class testing thing and my mouse wasn't on screen but when I clicked it chose to continue with the warrior :\

[turbid stirrup]

the classes are based on the pact you have, you can get the other starting pacts by unlocking them once you have the blacksmith

There are also other non-starting pacts

[wraith condor]

Oh nice

Thank you

[maiden raft]

How do i enter the fort at the south edge of the map?

[stable wadi]

not able to join sessions of my buddies, anybody else has this problem rn?

[vivid cliff]

I wish they would stop using words that already exist and have meanings, like sinecure and mendicant. just making a word up would be better than re-using an existing word and just give it a completely different meaning...

[solar topaz]

yo tiny question why does this Joinery have no stats

[pseudo crane]

out of all the words they use, sinecure works

[sly escarp]

The meanings aren't exactly wrong. Sinecure meaning "is given status for little or no work" makes sense, as they are kinda the scut mercenaries of the Ode. They're probably called Sinecure as an insult by the Empire.

[pseudo crane]

mendicant kinda doesn't work in this regard however

[sly escarp]

Not to our knowledge, but there may be lore that ties it all together.

[lean prawn]

They use Synod wrong as well.

[twilit lance]

i mean, it just means beggar king right?

[sly escarp]

For example, we know the Wazzard stole magick from the Voicing Trees. It's possible the Mendicant were beggars of magick, asking the Fey to grant it upon them.

[pseudo crane]

well, from what i read, and granted this is a small search, mendicant means beggar

[vivid cliff]

"clear the sinecure camp?" sinecure is a job/income for very little effort

[onyx belfry]

Mendicant could owkr as an adjective if he was a king that begged Synod for power (or to let him live)

[twilit lance]

beggar king is hard asf

[pseudo crane]

OH YOU KNOW THAT WORKS

never mind, I take my words back

[sly escarp]

He didn't, he died before the Ode Invasion

[lean prawn]

Mendicant specifically means someone, usually a monk, that has taken vows of poverty. So Mendicant King kinda fits.

[onyx belfry]

They soldiers are refered to as the Sinecure, being their camp, you could call it a Sinecure Camp

[vivid cliff]

Sinecure isn't a person though.

[sly escarp]

As for Synod, he is seemingly a religious figure to the Ode, but aside from that it's hard to say. He may be a collective of some sort though, a meeting of the Ode leaders into one authority.

[onyx belfry]

But the corruption brings back things from the dead no? Isn't that why we can fight the ghost enemies?

[sly escarp]

Sinecure is a rank/group. They're the Ode mercs we fight around Midrath

[pseudo crane]

this

[lean prawn]

Honestly i feel like they just looked up some cool sounding words with vaguely religious/medieval ties and stuck them in.

[sly escarp]

The Mockeries are not seemingly actually corrupted

But the Mendicant were brought back from the dead by Ichor

[vivid cliff]

they are crap words to use for this, we shouldnt make up stuff to defend their use. they should make up a new word or use one that already exists and describes the people

[sly escarp]

Seemingly as an unintended side effect

[pseudo crane]

again, sinecure does work. Mendicant is iffy

[sly escarp]

Again, if they were Beggars of Magick, they may have taken the power of the ichor as it flowed.

[onyx belfry]

You're acting as if we have all the lore and context for this game's story while it's not even released lol

[pseudo crane]

also, all words are made up and we generally do not make things up to defend thier use. language evolves a good amount of the time.

[sly escarp]

Some of us lore nerds have long suspected that the people of Midrath begged the Fey for magick, eventually betraying them. The suspicion was they turned them into the Mockeries, but perhaps those that died in the conflict were resurrected as Mendicant.

[pseudo crane]

that is a reasonable explanation

[onyx belfry]

Also using speculation is a core pillar of understanding video game lore (especially live services)

[vivid cliff]

you guys are nuts 🙂 . why not call everthing a spreadsheet then or "go kill the lemonade," or "open the broccoli and trend the femur" or something else silly.

[onyx belfry]

Bro is mad that people don't agree with him lol

[vivid cliff]

also why can I not unlock this chest? I killed everything around?

[solar topaz]

key chest

[pseudo crane]

one of your enemies may have dropped a key

[vivid cliff]

oic, lemme go forage for the key then 🙂

aha! you were right. there was a sack with 4 of them

tyvm

[pseudo crane]

cause words do have meaning, wether the meaning is inherently clear is another story

[sly escarp]

The Lotus for example. Naming her after a random flower seems weird, until you understand her lore and how it parallels the legend of the greek Lotus Eaters

[pseudo crane]

shrug I didn't look too deeply. Words are words, we can assign thier meaning at any time.

[vivid cliff]

I hope tuvalkane is a lotus. and I hope that she is not a direct ancestor (like my mom or something 🙂 )

[pseudo crane]

I want tulvakane to be more confident

[slender fox]

hey guys i was thinking of getting a founders pack but was wondering if this is a soft release where progression and stuff is saved or if its purely just testing

[vivid cliff]

ya she isnt exactly a ray of sunshine, is she

[cold plinth]

How do I make this knight move to the pressure plate? I'm in Crypt. I've already done the armor. This is just like a random puzzle I think.

[vivid cliff]

but maybe with some practice she'll gain some confidence

(or "eggyolk some catastrophe," as our random word meaning friends might say 😉 )

[pseudo crane]

oi

can we move on from the topic

[onyx belfry]

A bit of both. We're still in "preludes" so game isn't officialy released, which is why you need a code to get access, but we do get updates that add new weapons, bosses, tilesets and quests

[pseudo crane]

they are called as they are, end of story

[onyx belfry]

ultimately, not worth more than 5 minutes

[sly escarp]

Let's get back on track

[pseudo crane]

I wanna ragebait a pizza

[slender fox]

okay cool thanks for your answer, its just i love to grind but grinding if its just gonna get erased would make me sad

[pseudo crane]

ANYWAY

[vivid cliff]

pizza is also a master baiter, so I am ready 🙂 🙂

[pseudo crane]

so i recall (and the link is somewhere) that you need a ghost enemy in front of it to move it

[onyx belfry]

So far there's no planned wipe but they also said they might do one depending on the situation

[slender fox]

okay thanks im gonna grab it 😄

[pseudo crane]

i think, as long as like our founder stuff is saved, i'm fine if they do wipe it

[lean prawn]

Tuvalkane needs a hug and a trip to disneyland

[pseudo crane]

she needs therapy

[onyx belfry]

oh yeah pretty sure that one's guaranteed for legal reasons

[pseudo crane]

also, does orlick have a use anymore?

[onyx belfry]

Lore Grandpa?

[pseudo crane]

I know he USED to give totems and holds histories? is he just like the fragments in WF?

[gentle tide]

Steve apparently said he's going to have a much more expanded role at some point in the future.

[pseudo crane]

I hope so

he's my favorite.

[onyx belfry]

I hope we get more context for the ghost baby on his shoulder

This lil guy

[pseudo crane]

Yeah, same

He was quite spoopy. that said, I hope we get more with all the ancestors. tulvakane included

not verminia, she got her spotlight

[finite stone]

dw DE confirmed we will

[finite stone]

well I hope we get more about the Coven eventually, and maybe take revenge on her drowners (if they're still about), but yeah spotlight should be on others for now til they're more fleshed out

[pseudo crane]

look, I specifically want my girl to have some joy

[gentle tide]

honestly I just wanna hear her stop self depreciating lol

[spark hedge]

Man, there HAS to be a better strat to getting Scrap Brass than raiding the TWO weapon racks near Fort Curlail

[wild saffron]

hey guys quick question, is there a list of all the talismans in the game? I am trying to collect them all

[spark hedge]

People keep mentioning those weapon racks but come on people

This can NOT be the strat

[spark hedge]

https://wiki.avakot.org might have it

[wild saffron]

it dosnt but ty

[pseudo crane]

hey, glades of andurin

[wild saffron]

nvm it does ty ty

[pseudo crane]

like far as i've seen, the best spots i've found scrap brass is in the glades

has tons of those spear racks

[spark hedge]

omw to give that a shot now

[vivid cliff]

"Kith of Kingth" would have been a funnier enclave name.... (like thomeone has a lithp)

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Accessories

[finite stone]

It does! 😄

[wild saffron]

thanks

[spark hedge]

Okay Im sorry to say but farming Fort Curlail is far more efficient

[pseudo crane]

Eh

I offered a solution. I don't peek fort curlail often so

[slender fox]

i just bought a founders edition

[spark hedge]

The strat is to loot the weapon racks at Curlail and then log out to reload the area

[pseudo crane]

that feels....

[spark hedge]

And the wepaon racks spawn at pretty consistent positions outside the fort

[pseudo crane]

so slow

[spark hedge]

Yeah its absolutely terrible

But Glades is slower

[pseudo crane]

In that regard i'd call glades faster.

[spark hedge]

I lost soo much brass to crafting seeders

[pseudo crane]

you need brass for seeders?

i need brass for the other rewards. never needed brass for the seeders

[vivid cliff]

I just changed from Oscelda to Wyld Oscelda. I wonder if there'll be any difference....

well, the first difference is that my spells are locked...

[sly escarp]

Need to relevel it

The difference is a few stat points, and if you level both you get 60 pact points to spend

[tender pond]

does anyone know of a full list of weapons and equipment? avakot.org is missing a lot of stuff.

@de The greyed out stuff in the compendium is kind of a jerk move. At least show us a name on mouse over so we can figure out what we are trying to obtain.

[slender fox]

hey guys i have a question while the game downloads, does this work properly with 32:9 resolutions ultra widescreen type stuff

[ruby herald]

so what is the number in the circle next to my char name on the inventory screen?

[pseudo crane]

that's your enovy level

kinda like mastery rank in WF

[ruby herald]

oh never played wf. does it give me stats or something?

or just prestige?

[pseudo crane]

prestige, probably later the game will lock weapons or stuff behind it

[ruby herald]

ahh ok. thnx

[gentle tide]

doesn't leveling up your Envoy rank also give you additional virtue points?

[pseudo crane]

oh that too

I knew that

[slender fox]

can we switch pacts later? there all sick i dno what to choose lol

[gentle tide]

yes, but you have to craft them

[storm dust]

this just add +10 to light attack right?

[autumn musk]

flat 10 ye

[zenith raptor]

So how playable is the game in its current state? Can you have a full experience or is it more like an alpha test

[storm dust]

It’a buggy game but solid overall, not much story yet tho

[lean prawn]

It's functional but buggy and limited content, but what there is is quite fun

[misty vapor]

The combat is fun, but there aren't any super fleshed out game systems besides that, and even the combat isn't finished yet. You're best served actually trying to find bugs and posting about them.

[gentle tide]

I'd say it comes down to what you want out of it. If you want to run around and explore for exploration's sake it's great. If you want fun combat it's mostly there but still needs some work. The story quests are very good but there aren't a lot of them right now.

As far as the strictly "does it turn on and run smoothly" sense of playable yes, but as others said there's definitely some bugs.

[cold plinth]

Does Circade only invade in certain areas of the map? I'm far North around the higher level mobs and cycling through the talismans during the time windows but not getting invaded?

[slender fox]

guys my flyblade wont work it just does heavy sword attacks

[autumn musk]

[autumn musk]

not location bound

[tired sail]

Are you sure you have a flyblade equipped?
If you did anything with joineries, there's currently a bug where it will swap your current weapon with another.

[slender fox]

yea i didnt realise r was the switch weapons all good now

[ruby herald]

if i can’t put seeders on squawkers anymore is that a bug or is there a cap?

[pseudo crane]

you need to have seeders made for it

[ruby herald]

i have like 30 of them. and i’ve tried going back and forth to nightfold

[pseudo crane]

made or fragments?

[ruby herald]

well so I went back and made a couple to test and now it’s working. but the ones I made just went into the same stack in the inventory

[frigid spoke]

you usethem up, have to keep making

[ruby herald]

so they get used but don’t disappear from my inventory?

[frigid spoke]

used for sure, not disappearing might be a bug. Best solution is to log out and back, see what updates

[bold geode]

anyone find it really hard to find these sqwaker traps or is it just me?

[ruby herald]

at first. but you learn to recognize the mobs that hang around them

then you know to look for the pole

I wish there was an indicator for which weapon you were going to pull out when you attack. i’m always switching and lose track

[honest current]

I just started and I am torn between spirit and courage lol, they both look super fun based on what I can tell

[bold geode]

love courage, but kind of regret not going spirit after playing with one of my friends

[ebon wraith]

some locations regular enemy camps take their spawns so if you're hanging in one area clear them and they will spawn

[honest current]

I see I see, I think it's looking at phantom flock that's pulling me towards sprit's direction personally, and I like to be a team player so elderbloom is also enticing

Is it possible to switch between at any point or is it a you get what you get?

[ruby herald]

afaik your starting choice only affects the free set of armor you get, after a week it won’t matter

you can get and use all weapons armor and pacts

[honest current]

Oh fair, good to know. What happens in a week?

[ruby herald]

just a rough estimate of how long I played before I realized this myself 😛

[honest current]

I'm considering getting a founder's pack but I got given a code so i'm trying it out before I go all in

Lol

I think i've decided on spirit then, this should be fun to start, especially if it's the more spell casty summony kind of role

[jolly dome]

I'm trying out orengall for the first time, and when I use the skill 1 it seems like I leave combat, like the fort siege started the 30 sec timer to reset, and I can't see boss HP bars on the top of the screen, is this working right or am I doing something wrong? I can't even tell if my wolf skill is doing damage when I click it

[autumn musk]

Orengall werewalker sometime is bugged like that (can also fail a cogah run completely if unlucky)

just turns you invisible > no remaining players left > fail

[jolly dome]

oh dang, but good to know, maybe I will try other classes for now and come back to this later if they patch that

[ebon wraith]

his 1st does 1000 damage only if you are undetected... if detected you either do 100 damage or none at all

[jolly dome]

oh I see, so not really meant to be used during combat, only as an opener?

[ebon wraith]

yes while undetected you can do a finisher for 1000 damage thats all

[jolly dome]

gotcha, I see, thanks!

[ebon wraith]

so when using it run to a strongest enemy and bite it

[lean prawn]

It's a good opener but by itself not sufficient imo. The other two are ok and it's a solid pact for normal play but not bosses. Worth leveling but not going to be meta of that's your goal

[jolly dome]

nah just messing around for fun, not really worried with meta

[ebon wraith]

orengall is pretty good for smite build

[lean prawn]

In that case it's fun with fast running and wolfie friends.

[ebon wraith]

even boss runs

[jolly dome]

I'm still new so just getting a feel for things still 😄 only started playing about a week ago

[ebon wraith]

experiment with builds, mix and match pacts and weapons and you will enjoy the game xD

[autumn musk]

doesnt happen as much on solo.. but careful if multiplayer and your party dies

[bold geode]

yeah just saw a trap and now i wont forget lol

[slender fox]

what are these for

[ebon wraith]

totems for weapons

[jolly dome]

when you are equipping your gear, you can right click your weapon and equip them for stats

[ebon wraith]

they boost their attributes

[slender fox]

ohh so in the homebase

[honest current]

The game auto saves, right? I just realized I accidentally left my vpn on lol, I don't want confusion from that

[slender fox]

such ocarina of time vibes playing the songs lol

[austere trail]

this is an mmo

there's no such thing as a save

[honest current]

I see, okay, I don't play a lot of mmos, if Warframe is one then that's the only one I can think of, so i'm still relatively new to the genre

[austere trail]

warframe is also an mmo

[honest current]

Oki doki

[ebon wraith]

not really an mmo... more of a co-op

[slender fox]

do we have to buy pacts in the shop or can we unlock them

[ebon wraith]

you can unlock all of them

except the founders ones for time being

[slender fox]

ok cool i was just looking at what i spend this 1.1k on

[ebon wraith]

founder items are like early access gift for support and will be up for grabs down the line sometime

[slender fox]

ahh okay

so weapons are improved by leveling them just using them is that right

[ebon wraith]

slots for weapon/pacts mostly and i have a feeling we will have boosters at some point like warframe

[slender fox]

ok cool i never played warframe so i dunno

[ebon wraith]

yes, you have combat arts where you can upgrade them+totems/runes

[slender fox]

sweet

[finite stone]

that's one way, but there's a few. weapons are improved by:

• ranking it from 0 to 30, and it gains stats
• spending your combat arts points in the skilltree
• enchanting the weapon (equipping a rune and 4 totems)
• forging a joinery into the weapon

[slender fox]

ok thanks for the answer, looks like theres alot i was curious cause i can buy a weapon from the shop with the founder tokens but they were all low stats so this answers that ty

[ebon wraith]

low stats due to being rank 0+not reforged

[finite stone]

all weapons in Wares of Zenith are just normal in-game weapons that you can obtain by playing, the only exception is the founders gear

[slender fox]

ya one of the guys was saying, dunno what ill spend the points on if i can just get what i want ingame

[ruby herald]

inventory space

[finite stone]

if you mean Arcs (the premium currency), you'll need to spend them on inventory slots. It's the same for Warframe, always always need inventory slots sadly hahaha

[slender fox]

ahhh okay

[finite stone]

and if you like customising your outfit you'll want to spend some on moonsteel as well (lets you unlock a piece of clothing as a transmog skin so it doesn't nerf your stats)

[slender fox]

ok good to know

[versed gate]

will our progress be kept from this pre alpha to the full game

[lean prawn]

yes

[pseudo crane]

Yes

it was said, depending on the situatio nthey may wipe progress, but

i suspect most likely they won't

[versed gate]

oh ok. Im not too far but i like this game

[bold geode]

i've been running up and down the west side of the map and i've only found one trap lol they seem very rare to come up on

[storm dust]

can we get that armor?

it looks cool

[pseudo crane]

they are sparce, but they are spread out. more than just on the west side

[bold geode]

yeah i get that, but i would expect to find more than just 1 from north west to south west

[wooden shale]

My chest 🙁

[pseudo crane]

yeah but i meant more going east

[vague quest]

anyone got a extra key?

[pseudo crane]

Try not to ask for keys in the discord

[autumn sleet]

is a joinery required or does it just reroll the primary focus?

[pseudo crane]

A joinery, is kinda like mods. though some of the blessed joineries can be used on level 30 weapons and tend to reset the weapon level and change the attunement. much like a forma

[autumn sleet]

so is it better to do that before i max it?

[pseudo crane]

the blessed ones can't be used before 30

[autumn sleet]

oh so sort of like a prestige, as it has to reach 30 before hand

[pseudo crane]

the other can and offer a small to moderate boost to damage, as well as other small bonuses

[slender fox]

um first boss fights a bit easy no? like 4 hit the chick

[onyx belfry]

Yeah, it's still part of the tutorial (or at least it was last year when I started)

[cyan patio]

I started more recently (end of P11) and it still felt like part of the tutorial

so would agree with that

[storm dust]

does the range increase work?

doesnt feel like it

[slender fox]

i like how they have done the loading screens in dungeons

[onyx belfry]

You can't throw a magic weapon so it doesn't apply here

The boost is for throw distance, not attack range

[storm dust]

but isnt feybalt can only be used for magic?

throwing knifes and dagger uses verite iirc

[onyx belfry]

Correct, idk why they put bonus throw distance on the only weapon type that can't be thrown

[turbid ridge]

Yeah, very weird lol

it should at least convert to casting range or something

I'm sure they'll fix it

[onyx belfry]

^

[storm dust]

i think thats the intention, but bugframe kek

[onyx belfry]

I think they tested to see if it would convert but I don't think it does

[storm dust]

yea

[onyx belfry]

We are in preludes tho

[elfin kindle]

is there a way to see what weapons you have gotten to level 30 and then sold so you dont recraft something already done

[turbid ridge]

it's best to write it down

or in a text document

[elfin kindle]

Im sure people have already made the dev aware that isn't a great option?

[turbid ridge]

Codex changes coming down the pipeline

i'm guessing it will be with it

[onyx belfry]

You could use the companion app on avakot.org going forward (you have to manually enter which weapon you have/levelled tho so not useful for your current problem)

[storm dust]

you can see your inventory before selling

[storm dust]

it shows the rank on the 1st stat line

[turbid ridge]

unlike warframe we're a bit blind here when it comes to access