#gameplay-discussion
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Can any1 tell me how to. Collect the sap for the waste bear fable?
@abstract spade what it's only like 3:00 p.m. I wake up at noon
relog if bugged
Oh dear...did you by chance do the Brewer of Hues fable in multiplayer?
Yes
You have to redo brewer of hues
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It didn't register it completing properly and didn't give you the needed item
Do it solo
Or as host
I'm suddenly glad that I've done everything solo so far
for the sap isnt it just running and getting it from the tree's xD?
Is there a bug with frames / Garen Rood ? my frame is level 17 but I have only 6 points
Yep pretty much like three times
If you do Brewer of Hues as client it can bug and not give Sap Tap
Wtf is Nimrod??! Am I supposed to solo this asshole?!
Thank you
You should have an ancestor that'll help you at some point
Nvm switching frames fixed this
Did you spend your pact points on perks?
Ah
Yeah I learned there's a bug sometimes if you try to reset your point sometimes you have to get out of the arsenal and get in in order to reapply the points.
Any time
I'm out of healing pots, and I can't teleport back home. Do I just... need to run out of the area, farm pots and return?
welp gotten everything from event that I can so far since it's bugged, that didn't take long
You could, or you could die and enjoy your free potion on reviving
Maybe it's just cuz I haven't played enough but I feel like those healing pots are expensive
Super expensive at low level
Try relogging
Hi guys - what do we do with the seeders that we pick from the event?
Apparently that causes hunter levels to update sometimes
The Thawtide mobs aren't scaling. Several people were stating the same issue in chat.
I revived and received no free potions, still at 0
Well that's odd
Just farm some low level mobs for some potions or open chests
Yeah, heard the same. Also heard from some folks that exiting and restarting the game led to higher level hunters spawning.
I'll try rq
So that might help? Not sure
Just need 1 more mama bird and we've got them both 
Where is the location event?
everywhere
10 hour build time though π
Patch notes state everything. https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/8298-soulframe-preludes-12-thawtide/
can confirm relogging makes the hunters scale up
just got my second "vision" looks like the bottom of a toga outfit
wiat
steelsingers shreds π€·ββοΈ
Hi! how i can get an acces? to play
sign up on the main website, or join a twitch stream thats doing give aways
Thanks bro}
dumb question, but will we keep our items from the preludes once the game releases?
i hear there are no more wipes, since they are selling things for cash now
awesome
Yea looks like you have to relog for the scaling to go through
Not ideal but at least there's a workaround
Looks like +1 level per kill, starting at 10.
I washoping entering eternium would force scaling, but ti doesnt
where are these mobs? im killing regular things thinking it would work but its not KEKW
They update the northestern swamp. Lot of creepy trees added...
Run around and you'll find them.

They updated a few locations. Iβm pretty excited to move around the map and see some of the changes.
They need to just remove the walls tbh lol
i have 25 vasp-IV fragments -.-
Yeah. I can't stand the walls too.
Rookie numbers xD
I was gonna sayβ¦Iβm somewhere in the upper hundreds.
just trying to figure out how to rid of them...i was thinking build it and sell but...idk
Just build 1, sit on the rest
The team is working on a way to let us use them for other things. Should have more details in the new year.
yeah, i have 1...not thrilled about the spears...
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Uhmm so is it normal that after 16 seeders the enemies are still LV 10?
relog
Relog
worked for me
dude cogah is bugged rn
got lotsa vasp RIVT-II . rarer then precklies
What's bugged?
yikes
i get a code, where i can put for play?
soulframe website
soulframe
so quick question about the event, it says that the new bow only drops from hunters above Lvl 15 however i'm far north where i'm against lvl 35 NPC's yet somehow those hunters remain level 10 ?
i need vinculate a twitch acount?
xD what?
So I just found my first pair of pants without that weird flappy part. Now I feel like I wasted two of that appearance currency thing.
But at least they added a pair to the game
Majority won't understand here as this isnt english
in administration of account?
This mirror puzzle is slightly off, needs to be like 1 inch to the right to hit the sprite down this hall, but theres o other way to move any of the mirrors. Only the first one that initially catches the sunlight. Is it bugged or am I missing something?
There might be a third mirror
Patch notes says as uou kill the hunters they will level up across the world
Sometimes I have found that there can be anywhere between two and four mirrors
if I remember right
yeah they realy arent tho xD
Relog
i've killed like 20-30 of them atp and they still lvl 10
i been looking forever lol, and its only like 1 inch off, so weird
Hey here's a question that I probably should have asked on day one but when it comes to stability on your armor sets do you want that to be a high number or a low number?
And what does it mean?
So after getting the 2 cardinals, we can stop building the feeders, right?
Yes
Thanks
360 no scope!
lord and lady cardinal and we done?
what is the best way to find the bird boxes?
yeah, just kill the dudes if you need the armor pieces
but don't need seeders if you got them both cooking
Is the agari respawn timer going from 3 hours to 30 mins mean all the map bosses & siege castles is on a 30 min timer now?
any spot where is more seeders then usual?
Just need the Weapons now I think, and the Runes .
hey how often do overworld bosses (like cogah) respawn? is it like daily or?
did they change parts of the map? I feel like things are slightly different
it's not just the walls, the terrain itself feels different
like slopes in particular feel like they've been leveled out a bit
3 hours
There was some mention of collision mesh and a few other tweaks?
don't get me wrong i know birds are suppoused to fly but i keep seeimg them floating in random places like this 
There is a good spot for farming ducks?
30min CD doesnt apply to seige it seems
Water
Yes
Ok how about a poacher type boss that has trapped a lot of animals, tuff to defeat but when defeated rewards lots of harmony and totems maybe a special universal rune
ββis flock of birds ability on the mage pact bugged? my wife uses the birds to CC enemy and on my side of the game the flock of birds animation is stacking up each time she uses the ability... my fps is crying
sorry for not using the correct terms but im new to the game
consider it thematic? playing witch. it's 'curse' lol
LOL
there was like 100 birds hitting the boss and my camera was shaking like earthquake kinda of a shake I couldnt aim haha, thought my PC gonna blow up any moment
felt like 10000 birds to be honest
will do that lol, tnx
along the coast
this new event kinda sucks? I feel like the feeders are FAR too expensive to craft
anyone else tired of the gameplay being 70% running
Damn it of corse thawtide drops while Iβm at work haha
does anyone know where the relic is? π
oh fun, came out of Nightfold while doing a siege and it teleported me way down here and dropped me from a great height.
you're not missing much
Thanks!
scroll in a crate, your bird will point to it if you don't have a marker down
Main issue is scrap iron, which the feeders drop when you break them initially. Also it's just cosmetics for the feeders. The actual dudes are for weapons, armor
And a helmet that looks semi normal as well
There is a new bow
Yeh π
a 4th 2-pip bow
Ooooh itβs 2 star???
2* spirit, if you haven't gotten far rnough for blessed joinery
sorry spirit my bad
Nah I got plenty
if you have the founder pack bow, it's a flat upgrade
So the new one is same damage, lower smite?
Before I post on the Q and A channel, has anyone else been experiencing a death loop bug on multiplayer after the new update?
It happened a few minutes ago with my friend and now with me. Anytime he resurrects me, I get up and die again instantly
I beat the stag and found the blacksmith. Now what?
lower max stat scaling
happened to me too in glades dungeon
How do i get the next quest?
fill out your night hold
quest east of where you found blacksmith for last npc
but hey gives 5 mastery points at least!
xp
not sure, been too lazy stuff
Go south of fort curlail, dungeon entrance
how does one get under the effect of the cogah?
cogah potion from lvl 2 verminia
(craft 3 unique potions for lvl 2)
Probably not quite hey. Pretty sure 17.5 ish is current max, donβt know if 2 weapons is hard a level
omg i wish the level 34 glades would stop dumping me out in level 13 overworld
i think imma have to do some research to understand that
at the end there's a stone you can touch to send you back the start, leaving from entrance puts you back
not a bad idea, thanks
it just felt kind of wrong not to use the exit
i'm typing like i have a stroke damn
true, i feel that
plus the end loot
Can someone tell me why this is marked on my map? I've scoured the area and I've found nothing. https://i.imgur.com/CIwVyIC.jpeg
it has a book, if you hit G do you have a quest that shows up in the top left?
wolf quest?
have you done the bear?
oooooh yeah that'd make sense.
is that wevetwood?
not wevetwood right there but it's northwest not far from there yes
that does look like the spot for the first part of the fable tho
I have the bear quest, but it's far from here

hmm bear quest took over my interface until i did it
but i see you have a faction mission waiting there
i ddin't have those when i was doing bear quest, it made me do it
are we sure the update is live ive been looking for an hour with no birds
Oof bear dmg sure fell off haha
If you have a Wyld Pact, are you able to 100% a skill tree, or are you still lacking some points?
lacking like 12
wait no more like 20
it's more than enough for all the important stuff though
The keys to these pup cages. Are they supposed to drop on the enemies around the cages, or am I supposed to do something else to get them? This guy dropped a key that I picked up next to the cage, but then I died and came back.
Now I can't open the cage.
Birds are for sure IN. Just finished the bird blueprint
What's max level for a pact? 30?
I don't think the extra points from a wyld pact make that much of a difference anyways, just unlocking the nodes is a greater increase in power than upgrading them.
Thank you.
Because I'm lacking the key. Do I have to redo the whole "dungeon" to get another key?
hello, infinit room have a cd ? i finish one and when i found a another one no mobs spawn with the statue interaction ?
I like brom. Can still do dmg but no longer broken dmg. But ive been meaning to try another pact. Wolf pact looks cool
Are there places where its more likely to spawn?
getting max every stat makes a big diff on abilities
Which one was the healer pact?
Wolf is cool but feels pretty weak, havent gotten to play since this latest patch to know if it fixes things but it at least sounds good on paper.
Sirin?
oschelda
Oscelda has heal, so does Garren Rood
Ah nice
Oscelda heal is nuts
Once I max Orengall I think Oscelda is my next one to level up.
Help. I'm here now. I killed them all, I picked up a key
But I'm lacking the key?
I killed them all
im getting really anoyyed i cant find the new thawtide event anywhere
I'm using Osceldas magic guantlet thingy as my sidearm right now.
The area is empty. I picked up a key, then died to a goon and came back.
And I can't get the key back. Do I need to get the key somewhere else?
that's level 30 with 0 remaining points
need the base pact to the points get added together
usually death doesn't reset keys, hmm
new bug?
Happened once before. There are no enemies left here. I specifically ran around to find some because I love the combat.
How do I leave properly?
I'll come back and try it again for sure
Sorry what?
Does anyone know where the birds spawn? im getting really fed up
splitbolt does exactly what it says on the tin
thanks for the vid
do they all do the same dmg?
hey guys is the game available to play? I've played on a previous alpha test and wanted to test it again with some friends.. can they get invites still?
is the free code for watching 30 min on twich still going?
i'll check
Yeah cant seem to understand what im supposed to do, after i break the squeaker and kill the guards, cant seem to do anything else in the encounter
Working on it I'm working on it LOL
- break the squawker, you'll get a feeder part
- craft the feeder in the forge
- place the crafted feeder where the squawker was
Oh you got to craft the feeder first
Where did you find the squaker? i cant even find them
you need to break a few to get fragments to build a seeder and then you cna use the seeders on the squeakers
I feel like they are giving too much of the cool runes to Cogah runs
there we go β€οΈ now i can feed the birbs
Where is the feeder? I swear I have a fragment. I thought I only needed one.
Oh no I need two
TWO FRAGMENTS
?
im done ill just wait for a guide on how to do the event this is pissing me off
Wait so how do I get the second fragment? Do I have to get a second thingy?
seemed to find a lot more near the lower level areas...you'll hear them
somehow after I feed birds those enemy hunters aren't getting lvls
But then where do I plant it? Because then there's two spots
So are the main antagonists aliens?
yes
oh
Watch it be like the infestation or something LOL
oh gosh
Has anyone found Thawtide Hunters above 11-12 on the map? I've circled the entire place, and I feel like I missed them somewhere.. I'm in the highest level areas
Correct me if Im wrong, but beyond the basic runes, EVERY new rune has ONLY been available to players who are running Cogah
they should be lvl up as you kill them apparently
If you're in a storm, does midrith like.... Does the map properly display where you are even if you're in the middle of the storm?
does anyone have a code for me
what's the issue with that?
Strange, been doing every single one I've seen
There should be a variety of rune options per weapon type for all difficulties. Atm, the only rune variety there is exists in hard mode
Or is this tied to Ode Infamy? I feel like I read that somewhere
you only need one feeder frag to craft
this is what the squeakers look like
The forge says I need to.
Okay I got two now
You definitely need 3 Seeder fragments, but then you can make an infinite amount (as long as you have materials)
are you saying the hard mode is not accessible?
sorry i'm not sure what the pain point is
i get that you feel like more runes should be in normal but i'm wondering what's wrong with being forced to do cogah
then just keep doing the squeaker and i'll level up the next encounters, that right ?
Wait you needed three? Does everyone need a different number of fragments to build one? LOL
I needed 2 for my first seeder
Okay I built three for argument's sake.
AH my bad, it's 2, but it's definitely not 1 :P
Nah, Im saying that you shouldn't feel forced into playing hard mode to get different effects for your weapons. I think there needs to be more option, more variety before hardmode feels like the only thing a player has left to try
as opposed to his wife, Lady Cardinal
A lot of things in the animal kingdom have sexual dimorphism, so it's a cheeky way to call them lol
That makes sense
I like how after you activate the feeder that you hear the voice of people screaming to send out their hounds but it's just the hounds and it's not actually them
most "mainstream" images of cardinals for christmas are actually two males sitting on a branch so it's nice seeing that soulframe got it right
This reminds me whenever folks in a zoo figured out that they couldn't get to hyenas to breed for 2 years because they were both males
Got to love it
i love how the icon for the weapons look now, much better i think
I saw the armor icons and I also agree for the armor.
I can actually tell what they are now
yeah
huge
Since the new update I noticed there's also like a small delay between activating an animal cage and opening it. Maybe that's for the best
How much did brom get nerfed?
Also, shout out to the audio team for making it obvious where the bird feeders are from a decent distance away
500 instead of 2k damage for bosses
75% nerf
Hey yall - so a bit earlier this week i made this thread and had a bit of back and forth spat with @spring escarp as we discussed math and time frames
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1449636400382083193
to shorten and quote the discussion - he said you could hit rep cap in 2hrs, i said i didnt think it was doable - and to show proof of concept.
THE MADLAD DID IT, got dang im so impressed to say im wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupdJduiLyY
but yeah - with the exp increase - rep will be easier to gain and i certifiedly say I am 1000% wrong. i eat my hat sir. good job. @spring escarp
For XerxesTheMold to see that you can hit the Faction Rep Cap in Soulframe in 2-3 hours (~2hrs 6min).
Starting Rep - 81,100
1* - 7 (2,100)
1* + - 1 (400)
2* - 8 (5,200)
3* - 9 (8,550)
Ending Rep 97,350 (97,100 due to cap)
Total Faction Tales - 25
Average Tale XP - 650
Average Tale Completion Time - 3m12s
Average 1* Tale Completion Time - 1m02s
...
where to find moras kiss flower?
Good
π at this rate bosses wont have 3 million hp and 500k armour
so cogah bosses didnt get the 30 minute reset timer huh?
OH RIGHT THE ARMOR SET! So I still got to get feeders even after I get the Cardinals
I can finally equip marrows bane again instead of try harding with a staff
Wait is that WITH the passive?
I won't be surprised if it is
So anyone knows if the sieges remain at the 3h timer?
Also, Mendicant King in Cogah for the Greatsword rune? Since when does he appear there?
always did
cogah just gets rid of map markers everything still spawns in
anyone got cogah bosses up? ill use potion
I am not getting any standing/reputation since the Thawtide update - does anybody know why or how to fix that?
Since the last reset I only gained ~6k standing and was doing tales just fine until the update hit.
Huh, weird. Could have sworn he never sat on the throne during cogah. ty.
where do you go to get the cogah potion stuff or get that started still fairly new to all this
you can fight him and stag at the same time if your unlucky enough
Damn, 9 hours for a birb. Hope it comes with a buff LOL
have you done the waste bear?
Oh cool, finally got all the juniper segments
no?
GULP
have you found verminia?
i dont think so
your a little ways off from getting stuff for cogah then, dont wanna spoil anything
where does one find verminia?
ive explored the whole map and have over half of the locations fully discovered
There goes all my brass
Does the event come with a helmet too or just tops and bottoms?
i dmed you so i didnt spoil nothing for anyone
i appreciate it brother
So I had Tethren and Wild Tethren Pacts but after the update the regular versions of the pacts are gone. I don't see anything about that in the patch notes.
Wait what? So I just waited 3 hours for nothing? Lmao still this is great
they do exist
Thanks
How to gear up for the waste bear boss? I'm pact lvl 25 and have starter gear
so the endless dungeon is no more?
So the nerfed bromius quite a bit, but tethren recieved a tiny nerf. interesting...
If I grab the $30 WYLD founder package now, and later decide I want the $100 package, do I get credited/discounted for the frame I already bought? Or would I be paying full price again?
is the new bow better than sirin's?
goes down
this is only for normal. not applying to cogah if you were curious
Very nice info, thanks
thats what i did...ended up doing after finding out about the paragon sword
Any recommendation for best of the three in regards to balance and power atm?
So silly question, if I just wanted to like activate the seeders so that I can get the resources from it, I can do that. Do I get anything aside from the Cardinals for adding seeds to a broken seedar?
does the sparrow lead me to the same place the bird icon on the compass is pointing?
It leads to the closest icon on your map OR to a waypoint if you had one
doesn't the sparrow track to the active quest if available?
did they fix the 3 missing totems?
I think that's top priority yeah
Or maybe the priority goes like this, waypoint, then quest, then whatever's on the map
how do i level up my rep with verminia?
nice tower
Yep. It's a real tweet
Hey all - n00b here
Endless is nerfed, faction standing boost, bromius and tethren nerf, more doors in the big walls
is the new bow better or a hair worse than sirin's bow?
you mean the bow from founder pack or thystle?
This bog is crazy
craft potions. same idea as smith bond
I believe they did. I just got one of the bugged totem from the P8
ty, wasnt seeing the progress bar go up
the Thawtide's bow
umm so on this update, no more oneshot bromius ?
I cant wait for megalovania on soulframe flute
Maestro*
uniqe potions tho
yesnt
bugs are crazy today! Got stuck in the seeder cutscen and couldnt move anymore!
bosses wont get 1 shot
This sucks. I just killed a level 30 mutated dog and the rewards are out of bounds
yah that but i was asking which one are you comparing it to
Beaver - Greatsword ** (The Logger)**
Rat - Greatsword
Rat - Longblade** (The Shadow)**
Duck - Shield
Let me know if anybody else found the previously bugged totems
is there a bug finder chat?
Yes, even though it's not a Oneshot, before the update, Bromius could deal significant damage. But now it's pathetic. πΏ
Brom could deal 2k damage
when alone
which is basically a 1 shot for most of the early bosses
You should not be killing bosses in 1 hit
Hey did y'all know there's a throne in the middle of the bog that if you hit the Bell the Bell goes BOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGG!!!!
Like breaking the sound barrier loud
Yeah that's the drip king's throne
Who?
Mendicant King, drops a set of armor and a great sword
OH THAT'S ME.
When he is at his throne, you hit the bell to fight him
Oh so is the reason he's not showing up because I bought his armor set? That's the first thing that I bought
Well okay it was the second thing I bought
No he is on a timer
Maybe you need to do some quests before he show up, I dunno
He was always there for me
I don't know I'm banging on his belt like a door stopper and he ain't doing nothing
Killed the stag though
He will break if you go there mid fable
I don't know what a fable is but I don't have any quests active if that's what you mean
The bell doesn't work unless his statue is sitting on the throne
with the update a bug returned it seemed, keep hitting it and will eventually work
Okay
had an issue where he duped but only one actually awoken
I'll message again in about 30 minutes if there's nothing
damn he got 2 bugs at the same time?
2 bugs.... bugs... SILK SONG?!
Silk song in soulframe?!
Hollowknightframe next game in 10 years confirmed?
You sound like pubsker LMAO
Has anyone gotten the new dagger yet, fragments of it?
i just wanted to know if the maestro bow was better to see if its worth getting : /
You should be trying to get every weapon
Well if you want to hear a third bug, in the bog the enemies are fighting each other
Dogs are fighting floaty bugs and floaty bugs are fighting the slugs
Especially since it's a limited time event to get the bow
Dude like there's a road in this bog. Like a modern day car road
Iβm just getting like 100 thawtide not getting bow fragments :((
yeah bows are supposed to drop form higher level guys i think? But the whole "leveling up" thing is not happening. They've been level 10 since thawtide started for me.
Me too
is the 30 minute cooldown for forts as well?
You have to reset
The dogs are like level 35 though if that matters
I've logged out at least twice since it started, but I'll try again
Try it maybe itβs bugged
im guessing that helm, weapons and charm are "rare" drops
The charm is more rare for sure but it's not that rare. I have like five fragments and I've only been doing this for about I don't know 40min?
what's the best part of the map to farm the new event?
30 minutes??? did I read that right
I'm pretty sure if I'm not mistaken it's supposed to happen in midreth? Mined-mid-. That place @tawdry arrow
Yeah?
i can spawn camp bosses now??? NICE
I may have made a mistake by trying to optimize the download cache. This is taking a long ass time
My screen says 3.5 hours
Although it could just be my network connection
Oh never mind it just jumped to the middle. It's halfway done
Is there anything in the pipeline to implement pets in game?
you try it on bosses?
why my SOULFRAME keeps saying update fail
@lusty wing you using a VPN?
NO
DE mentioned mounts, not sure about pets
@lusty wing Maybe restart your internet and try again?
I know people are just ready to drop their card on a customizable wolf mount
if the game having an update right now or is just me they can get in
i just wanna fly in sparrow mode, don't need mounts
hey, how come the Hunters are lvl 10 despite the Ode enemies in the area being lvl 20+? my friend and i have been doing the Squawker/Seeder thing for a bit and the levels haven't gone up
Actually that would be very clever and easy to implement considering you already do that sort of
no update atm. i'm connected fine
is fellust broken? it feels more weak than it should be
nerfed but i'm still getting 1-shots
its not working on some mobs
it was adjusted today
a lot of abilities are broken as client atm
if you are in coop, some abilities, including fellust, doesn't work for clients
ah
needs to be tested
im still seeing if the skill is jank or not or if its just weapon level
wouldnt be the first time they said something's fixed and it's not
are the merry motifs obtainable anywhere outside zenith
they're for arcs so i imagine no
you get them by feeding the birds in the new event, if i understood the event right
That can be interpreted as you want. The first part could mean you can collect them ingame...
Oh what a beautiful sunri-sunse...... Sunrise
oh a hotfix is coming
so cogah is still on the 3hr timer
no
what about the siege cogah mode tho
Where? Oh I see it
30 mins now
the sieges are still 3 hr it
Thawtide's Helm stats and crafting
bosses reset 30m for me but sieges not
ive read that regaular is 30min, cogah is 3hrs
uh.... i dont think thats how you climb ladders
are regular seiges 30 min or are those still 3h too?
cogah also 30 idk about sieges tho
What are you talking about? Of course it is..... You're going up
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but the bow is spirit-attuned
Noted
I'm confused what we are supposed to do with the cardinal charm. How do we equip it?
You you have to craft it first like every other charm
that looks like a talisman
ah, I'll craft it after the hotfix
do we know whats getting hot fixed?
I don't
3 fragments for charm, gotten one from a squawker not sure if they drop off mobs
hunters not leveling up until you relog?
they drop when u break the trap
is it the fact that you can infinitely spawn the thawtide event interactions?
I thought that was intentional
interactions?
I've yet to figure out how to place a bird feeder. I've crafted a few though
what happened to the endless room? is that gone now since it stops at 20 waves?
patch notes
interact w trap again
it's no longer "endless"
place them where u break the chirping speakers
So the bird feeder is just a plate with food on it. You place it on top of the broken one
ah
the room is still there
hotfix out
wym interactions
The could have made the "endless" room occur more often since they nerfed it.
I looked for the "endless", it is just as uncommon as always
I don't know what y'all are talking about. It took me like two whole days to find that room.
Can the new holiday enemies be found anywhere or?
lol
I find it on average after around 5 tries
Must be nice.
did it in like 3 yesterday and in 2 after
Luckily all of my current classes are maxed out now so I don't need to look for it until I get a new one
or just ask in recruitment chat if someone has the room and lets you clone it
Mmm
did endless to level 100 yesterday. that was a grind, so almost glad it is limited to 20, but 50 would have been better
I stopped at 60
is it safe to assume to sell most weapons that only have one symbol scaling
ends at 99
what ends at 99? The new 20 wave?
yesterday ended at 99, its 20 now
I would Max it out before selling if you're a completionist like me
I assume 20 waves means ends at level 20, but haven't done it yet today
That sounds about right. Does it at least continue after level 20 or is there only 20 waves in total?
i am ^^ gotta grind that mr
level 60
endless patch notes
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the reason it took so long to reach 100+ is the time between the waves. Last time i did endless, we ended it at lvl 211 after 4 hours...
not really, everything was the same speed
they just had more HP and did more damage is all
It used to go up 1 level each wave, so I usually went to 60 or 70, but now to 60 will be quicker, but sounds a bit deadlier π
man I am super bummed about attack speed totems no longer affecting throw
Reduce time between waves makes it real sneaky so now you can't level up multiple classes at once like I did. It's one class per room because you can't swap classes unless you're out of combat. Clever clever de
long blade throw feels useless now
it took about 27 waves to max out a pact, give or take exp been boosted for weapons and pacts now
I shouldn't say boosted its been changed
Oh this music is very menacing I'm worried I'm just trying to read game please stop
oh baby a 2'fer
we can't save the cute animals from mada yet D:
you could still go to nightfold because it takes a few seconds for the mokeries to get up, that animation is slow
they blew it up, you monsters
OH! sorry, i just saw this, i was comparing it to Sirin's signature weapon...the one that came with sirin
Any1 tested maestro yet
hi someone invite me to play pls
wrong channel
oh sry
just another 2* bow
where channel im new in discord
where tho?
Does attack speed from totems reduce charge time on staff?
there's a thawtide hunter dialogue line when we set up the seeder and fight the dogs, are we supposed to be attacked by a hunter too?
ok thx
After you craft the 2 cardinals theres not a point to crafting more feeders right?
yes, DE said there won't be any resets
100%?
No, but they are trying to avoid it
It's not planned to but they don't want to guarantee it couldn't happen
their plan is to not have any resets yeah. and most likely, that'll happen
More feeders equal higher level hunter. Some rewards are locked behind specific levels (like lvl 30 for the dagger)
oh i thought the hunters were just the 3 mobs around the feeder....doing it has a chance to spawn a guy?
Got my first bow segment drops from The mobs
those are the hunters. they start at lvl 10 and increase across the map when you repair the feeder
The level is independent of the area level. Even cogah mode won't affect them
should increase anyway
I mean minor level 23 so that should give you an idea
sometimes it does, sometimes doesn't 
some were stuck at lvl 10-11 for a long while, some had them level up fairly "normally"
alpha be alphaing, its a cool way to impliment difficulty
Gotta logout for em to scale 
I instantly relogged each time and got them up to level 38
i used 10 seeds in a session an they stayed at level 10 until i relog and they got to 20.
any idea if there's going to be pvp ? like warframe
no idea
couldn't find anything about it
leveling thawtide hunters is done by killing them, not through the seeders right? so it seems once we get both cardinals there's no more reason to do seeders?
got ya
is this new ? i never saw meat grinder here
Yeah, they were added today
Go through it
Ooooo finally got some new weapon fragments
is there a limit for thawtide hunter drops? they stopped dropping stuff here
I think it spawns randomly. I just came from there and there was nothing like that there
cardinal charm crafting
Nice balancing act there, hunters. ;)
night 3 of asking for a access code. anyone down to hook me up?? i'll be forever greatful
anyone know how to get other parts of thawtide armor ? I keep getting leg fragments from the enemies
I still don't have any rostrum pieces
Gross
Is there any use for extra fragments?
not rly @nimble igloo
Yes. You use extra fragments to rebuild if you ever decide to throw something away
@whole vale it is gross, true
says invalid
They're level-based:
Fragments for the Thawtide Meltcap will drop from level 15 or higher Thawtide Hunters.
Fragments for the Thawtide Thermals and Shingles will drop from any Thawtide Hunter, those disguised scoundrels.
Fragments for the Thawtide Grimguise will drop from Thawtide Hunters over level 30.
OH MY GOODNESS I'VE BEEN RUNNING PAST THE WHITE TREE FOR THIS AREA I MUST HAVE RUN PAST IT AT LEAST FIVE TIMES
I feel so dumb
It's like one of those things where you find it when you're not looking for it
I wish there was like a radius that said hey there's a tree nearby or something
Is there a way to find/spawn higher leveled ones ? Only ever found so far lv 10 enemies
According to the patchnotes:
With every Thawtide Hunter defeated, their levels will increase across Midrath.
I'm working on updating https://wiki.avakot.org/Thawtide , but til then I'd just go off the patchnotes
@tawny seal i just told u exact how to do it
ok, thanks
@tawny seal
my guide is telling me to go this way, but i cant for the life of me find a way to put this fire out. Any ideas?
So this just in, the ummm..... The towers can apparently despawn
I literally turned around for 2 seconds
you mean kill a group and log in the game again ? Wouldn't be better to just walk around looking for them ?
@hasty wedge whats ur ingame nick, will come and help u
Brakkus
@tawny seal relogin lvl up them
oh ok, that makes sense
I mean, makes sense refering to loging out like you said, but from a gameplay standpoint it really isn't very confortable
And now the little turtle vendor despawn. My game is having a problem with things really close to me despawning in front of me
they mentioned in hotfix that they are aware of that problem and they workin to fix it @tawny seal
that's nice
kickbot leaking trade smh
how's everyone feeling about the event overall? I'm feeling a bit underwhelmed honestly but I'm curious if that's just me
Hey does this rings of mushrooms mean that I just defeated my first boss?
we early in the game, nice mid ranged gear
yeah the gear is a good addition, I just kinda wish there was more than 1 interaction type for the event
is there a way to find out what you need to do to gain access to a faction.
your starting pact should have come with a talisman that leads you to one of the factions
it's not really explained in game
@autumn musk cogah medicant knight still hasn't respawned for me after 2hrs
so i got silent rose
if you went with Sirin yes
thanks
npnp
hmm we did double kombucha and nimrod earlier
hmm interesting
I did almost 20 of the squawkers and the enemies around them are still level 10, how am I supposed to get this spirit bow?
@onyx lava
Also imo the armor is a bit eh? Considering you can get the Circade armor for free in about 10 minutes, itβs 3*, and it comes pre craftedβ¦
PlsplsplsplsPLEASE tell me if soulframe is on console yet
Nope
You can use a controller on pc
But I donβt have the p or c
Damn.
Get the Gabe Cube when it comes out
Sounds like you should get a pc.
does this little glowy cloud do anything?
But then I would I have to get a new tv and desk and probably the newest ram board or something
how you get names for areas
Smite it
hit Q and click on it
hmmm ok let me try that
They partially translate the names of places
like "pull smite?"
Yes
I dont have a smite...ok
left click
oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I just did cogah nimrod and kabocha after 2hrs, they spawned just fine
medicant knight and siege kearnhold did NOT respawn for me after 2hrs
You can smite enemies when they glow too
well dangit I should have asked sooner. Ive been passing them by thinking they were inert
I mean they arenβt suuuuper important but itβs nice to have the names
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Why am I getting staggered by one halberd attack with 29 stability bro π
they help lvl your toon also
They do?
ya
Must be a tiny bit, Iβve never noticed
when I first started playing I couldn't say enough nice stuff about the combat but it's starting to show its weak points all at once
especially melee combat
Halberd big and heavy
I find the combat really well done honestly.
then don't even have stability on armor or the rooted perk if they do nothing
biggest change I've noticed high vs low stability is arrows don't flinch you
Though I do typically use bows so
Or S&S, but with that I parry
The most important aspect of the melee combat is just being situationally aware enough to not get hit, as βgit gudβ as that sounds.
I don't want to rely on throwing weapons all the time, but mixing it up in melee is asking to be stunlocked and knocked over
everyone hated DS2 because of gank squads for this exact reason
having to kite groups of enemies and pick them off is annoying
You donβt have to kite and pick them off though?
You have superpowers. If you canβt deal with being in the thick of it, stampede them or burn them or slam your ass on them.
But again, just being aware helps a ton. The only enemies that generally hit me are the ones I didnβt know were there.
so play Bromius, the most busted pact in the game, or be a ranged character
Neither of those is even close to what I said.
Also they nerfed Bromius. And Teth was way more busted.
If they could both one shot bosses and one also has a braindead AoE ability how is that one less busted
With the new greatsword rune you can once again one shot.. π
I think people were able to one-shot level 60 enemies with bromius
I bet that polearm one will do it too
Ten throws in one be like
Is the game more demanding then warframe in terms of pc specs?
Similar to 1999/sanctum atomica performance
I am stuck on another thing: I am trying to do "the torment stag" but when I go in the well the door is blocked by vines or roots or something. been trying for like an hour now. what am I missing?
You can still turn settings down though for much better performance if needed.
Alr danke
There used to be an interact prompt on the vines to get back into that arena if you were locked out, is that missing?
let me gp back and look. ty
my video card is still cranking... and i have an amd radeon rx 6650 XT
Also if you relog, just entering the dungeon should warp you to the boss door
sound on
I actually have no idea what I was replying to. It must of been a ways back π
XD
thanks. turns out I was going down the wrong well...
i got it now
did you make sure timmy wasnt in there?
anyone else feel like thawtide hunters have just stopped leveling at 13?
Do people who purchase founders pack get those classes exclusively or just sooner? I dont want another excal prime situation
sorry, I am dumb: who is timmy?
I don't think avakot can spawn down there until the quest is completed
is avakot down?
the map site i mean
anyone happen to know
i was hoping to get a clue on where these enamines for for the Thawtide are spawning
because i feel like ive just been running around like a chicken and have only ran into 3
yeah that's crazy. 35 stability and three ranks of rooted and I get knocked down by a bannister in one hit
the spawn is random, just run around til you find one
Howβs the new bow? Is it better than what we had damage wise?
They⦠are twice your size and likely weight about a half a ton. No amount of stability is holding up to that.
Apparently relog fixes this
What's this mean? I'm not finding anything in the area.
dude dogs still flinch me. make the stat do something or remove it
if they want it to actually be a soulslike (which they've said it's not) where you're supposed to not get hit, don't have a "helps if you get hit" stat
This statement makes no sense. The souls games have several stats like that.
Iβm not trying to be mean, but it sounds like you need to go spend some time practicing your dodging and parrying.
So what do we do with all the cardinals????

it sounds like you still don't get what I'm talking about
the game is very easy, I'm not dying or failing to kill things. but stability should not be an armor stat if it does next to nothing
there are several skills and stats that imply you can build your character to trade through attacks and you really can't
It's being fixed as we speak. Thanks for the bug report! πΊοΈ
Honestly I don't think this game's encounters really facilitates dodging and parrying style combat, since enemy aggression doesn't change when they are grouped up, so you either have to slowly peel them off, or have dudes ping pong you around from behind. That type of combat is great for 1v1 show down with a boss, but half the time there's like, 5 dudes with the boss
I frequently go into melee combat against groups of 5+ enemies and dodge pretty much everything.
wow first time
βI donβt want to be mean, but Iβm going to be mean anyway. And condescending while Iβm at it.β
Hang on while I find a specific video to link you
Iβm good, thanks.
second time my game crashed ;.;
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Man, those are rare. Congrats. Stag?
This is the attitude I have, not a mean one.
yeah first time getting feybalt mora
So how does this bird statue thing work?
I didn't get that vibe from him at all. How did you get that?
I get the seed, but can't interact with it
Gotta make the seeder at the blacksmith
Someone else complained that the stability stat doesnβt seem to do much. A very valid complaint about a stat. Telling them to get gud with parrying is a) irrelevant, b) besides the point, and condescending.
You clearly didnβt read all the way back.
You only read their most recent message and assumed to know the full context I assume?
I know how to scroll. Context doesnβt improve things here as much as you think.
There is a specific spot for farming these flowers or they just spawn randomly while walking around midrath?
Sounds like you are being a condescending one right now. Not sure what that attitude is for :s
Same, in fact I feel like you basically have to dodge most of the time because everyone is spamming their stun grenade every other attack.
Oh Iβve got the grenade timing down at least. Wait a beat after it hits the ground, then sidestep and continue smacking. Also it does feel like they lowered the frequency of grenades. Thank god.
I could deal with fewer grenades lol
My usual method is ranged and killing them before they have a chance to grenade lol
Sirin is wildly overpowered
And that bow rune that can upgrade to +175% damage after smite? Whoooooo you wanna talk about insane damage? Blind enemies, arrow rain, then smite and start hitting 1200+ damage headshots
I started with Sirin and love it but ranking up orengall/vetch/esthelle at the moment.
There's just not much reason to get close to enemies. Tethren is the "melee" pact and the best way to play it by far is throwing sidearm short blades.
It's cool that they added stuff like riposte and specter strike to try and reward you for fighting close, but it's still more effort for something ranged attacks can do just as well
I think melee is fun but it needs more to be worth the effort.
I actually really enjoy the melee combat, especially with fly blades secondary
Melee's really fun when you're facing 3 or so enemies. When you've got to maneuver around 5 polearm ads to get to a boss it's less fun.
invest in perfect dodging
No, it just requires a little more finesse.
you mean like the dodge attack totems?
I think they mean perfect dodge window?
no I mean like literally perfect dodging lmao you don't dodge??!
...yeah I dodge
yeah when you perfect dodge, ure body glows yellow
semantic satiation
With perfect dodge you mean the weapon talent that enables spectre strike correct?
You can do it without the talent
exactly...u then spectre strike after perfect dodging
The talent enables specter strike when you do it
Correct. I am just trying to ask clearly for clarification to alleviate the misunderstanding that seems to be happening.
Make sure everyone is on the same page
nah its ok i guess he wasn't aware of perfect dodging
yes dude I know what perfect dodge means
what do you mean "invest in perfect dodging"
so...why where you talking abt a totem?
ooh ok I see why you got confused..
what am i supposed to do here? i got here by alinging the sun mirrors near the first tower of the game
did you open a treasure chest
the room with the vine door that you open with sun rays is usually just a treasure room
there was a single chest with some enemies, but up there there's obviously a way to go
There's a ladder right there
But there may not be anything up there, or just another chest
thats the fun part
@autumn musk have you gotten any of the new rune? no luck so far for me
That's Digital Extremes for ya
Did anyone else make the mistake of buying the pact blueprints from the arkveld person
is the basic fundamental of the game though that I am rescuing small woodland creatures and battling against people trying to get oil out of the ground?
You're playing FernGully yea
FernGully, I need to look that up. one sec
Theyβre technically putting the oil in the ground, but yes.
Was endless nerfed ?
great....
Do the enemies stop spawning after a while ?
yeah, it's 20 waves and goes lvl 60
Did the new update fix the whole weapon XP/pull smite thing?
Look up the song Toxic Love from FernGully if you want to get the vibe 
FernGully is just what I think of whenever you talk about 'humanity coming in to forcefully ruin nature for their own gain'. Although it's probably Avatar now for people born from the 2000s onwards
there was something about it in the notes, 1 sec
I didn't catch it, maybe I glossed over
anyone wants some burnt enemies?
yea i got polearm xxx
Any notes about the Endless area ?
(we still need to update https://wiki.avakot.org/Endless but will do tomorrow probably! thawtide has been priority)
Thank You
Is this mockeries? Cause I've killed like 200 of these dudes
yeah
The endless not endless anymore
Sign me up for Sinecure BBQ
huh
anybody know if bosses respawn in cogah with the new shortened timer?
OKAY, what did i missed?
What do we call endless now it ends?
Ending
lmao I've been wondering this too.
Survival? Endurance?
Ending glades
Useless glades
Much glade
Is not useless though
I vote endurance, since it also starts with E
End-ish?
I vote we just call it E. Letβs see what my cat thinks.
Endless-y?
My cat also says E, although that is the only letter she knows soβ¦
I tried for like a good 2 hours to find the correct Glades of Andurin dungeon with the 'endless mockeries' but alas am unable to find them out of all the Andurin dungeons.
What are the basics for the event?
Itβs a random chance in any glade
The longest night draws near! βTis a sacred time when the Dendrit people gather to feed Midrathβs Cardinals. These little red birds need their strength to wake the resting sun with their morning song. Tradition holds that when Mora rises at Solsticeβs dawn, her warm light foretells gentler days ahead. But the Ode have caught wind of this r...
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Also, PSA for anyone struggling to get the event fragments - use Sirin, stealth and pickpocket the hunters. They almost always drop them.
For the Thawtide event, are they not just rnadomly around mIdrath?
After getting both cardinals, is it still worth making seeders?
stares in Sirin player that didn't think of that
Did i hear shortened timer
from what I can tell you just get more cardinal fragments
WE CAN PICKPOCKET??(Is it sirin only?)
Donβt feel bad, a friend told me to try it.
https://wiki.avakot.org/Pickpocket (yeah it's a Sirin passive ability)
Yeah use the stealth and bump into enemies
I feel so dumb rn lol
uh
but like where is the event? All over midrath? Yes?
I sold a weapon to mr camel and now its stuck on please waiting
is it true that Alca don't get T3 Stag spawns?
So what is the meta now?
Merry motifs farmable or purcahse only?
he's gonna fleece ya
puchase only!
Thanks brother
Like arc purchase?
yeah from Zenith capitalism camel
Dang
Yeah It could take a hundred rerolls of glade to find one
Wait does paragon come with weapon slots?
what's that supposed to mean? it bring me near the first "chat" tree but nothing happens
I think this is the case. Haven't been able to play myself yet but seems to be what people are saying!
But yeah I just got all my event fragments in about ten minutes with pickpocket
Yes, every Founders pack comes with free slots for every pact and weapon it contains
Peak, that'll save me some arcs( I must hoard all weapons)
thank you
https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Torment_Stag will guide you through the fable, envoy
it might just be that your guide is bugged rn!
Waste of time yes but leveling also yes, kill lots of bosses around Alca and gets runes hopefully then rinse and repeat for procedurally generated randomness of loot.
How are the new runes?
Itβs approx. a 15%
least it's better than warframe drops for some stuff
I like those odds Soulframe
hmm treefell looks pretty good as a rune, Im not sure about picktrix, it looks like it could be amazing, my main worry is armor on enemies making it useless
Hey what kind of items require gossamer quartz to make? I damn well know I should have more than one. I just bought some from that little turtle dude vendor
the drops and loot from bosses tho....
They're like 500 a pop
None of my current recipes seem to have it though
so, i've massacred the encampement long before the quest even emerged, and met avakot out in the open already, still one of the first things that appear when u leave the house and explore, so i don't know what to do, basically this questline is doomed to remain uncompleted
Almost all classes and a lot of the 2/3* gear needs it
Yeah classes but what about weapons or armor?
How in the world could I only have one?
And a lot of the 2/3 gear*
The only class that I have built is bromiest and that doesn't require it
You freed Avakot from his cage and entered the Undercity?
Huh?
i've entered the undercity before the quest even appeared, explored it all and went back, still avakot is in a field and can talk to it(and avakot was never in that dungeon)
https://wiki.avakot.org/Gossamer_Quartz has a table for this:
Oh wow I have enough quartz to do all that and I already have most of it lmao
Avakot's not in the dungeon, he's in the Sinecure encampment by the well. You free him, and he sends you into the Undercity to find the totem to enter the Glades.
So are you saying you've freed him but not yet gone into the undercity since freeing him?
i've never even freed him to begin with, i've found him calling me in a field, then i went in the big tower, started exploring nearby it, explored the undercity from head to toe, seen that i've opened all chests could find, then continued to explore unitl i've found the quill to give
The quill isn't part of Torment Stag, the quill is part of Last Pensive
You've found one of Avakot's random open world appearances by the sounds of it, dw about that it's not fable related
don't even know what a fable is, guess it's a major storyline(?), i'll try to go back to undercity again to see if the quest debugs itself
https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables are quests in Soulframe
Fables are faction rep quests
Oh or all quests
No, those are Faction Tales
Does 10% parry window on sidearms affect stuff thats not the sidearm?
On the tutorial I sent you, which exact step did you get to? Point it out and I can tell you where to go next
the bird it's guiding me through the undercity again so i guess the quest it's working, if something strange arises, i'll write
So im faction rank 3 but i somehow have 0 favor to spend?
Is this a bug or do I get it from something else?
Did you just spend it to rank up from 2 to 3?
Ahhhhh that makes sense
Doesn't the king reappear every 30 minutes?
Are Orengall's armor pieces not supposed to be in the Alca faction shop ?
Man I love one shotting bannerettes
DE really needs to make a region chat
They removed it?
recruitment is just spammed with nonsense
Why would we need a region chat?
There is check serttings accessibility
Or was it in chat option?
Can't see it, can't choose the cuirass reward on my rank level up.
The map takes five minutes or less to cross, that is one region lmao
Should be at rank 4 I think
Rank 3 is leggings???
If they removed it RIP me
Can't see all pieces.
daily cap feels bad, wish that was one thing they didnt bring from warframe
where are these new things at i dont see anything
I was 1 point away to rank up π