gameplay-discussion

[teal radish]

Ehh you do know who were behind the best PVP game of all time? Unreal Tournament '99 . 😄 I know it has been over 25 years....but once upon a time DE actually made PVP games.

[fair pivot]

@wet portal OOh that worked, he's out, but now stuck on something else lol very buggy. How do you break his blue shield?

[rugged jolt]

I hope they don't add it! since it was fun but like fun for like a few minutes Maybe if it was like Being able to play either as Grineer or Corpus with their own classes, weapons and unique abilities

[rugged jolt]

OH CRAP I completely forgot about that lmao

[visual radish]

Honestly most i could see would be a duel room if/when they add clans

[wet portal]

soul suck iirc

[distant jungle]

Maybe, maybe not, it's undecided and they're focusing on rounding out core features right now. On one hand, it went horribly in Warframe, but that was largely because Warframe just wasn't built for it and proved pretty much impossible to balance for it. It'd be much easier to do so in Soulframe's slower, more grounded mechanics, so it's still possible, and I see this game pulling in some of the Souls crowd on release because of the similar basic gameplay feel, so there may be demand for it.

But it'll be something to consider after the game is released and stable.

[wet portal]

you may needa whack before u smite

[fair pivot]

@wet portal Hmm soul suck doesnt do anything

[rugged jolt]

Man I remember when clan wars were a thing in warframe, players tax the crap out of areas people go to t hough haven't experience it myself all i've heard is horror stories about it when clan wars were first implemented

[wet portal]

hit him a couple times first i think

[mild swallow]

Question... I am several hours in (Fighting maybe lvl 20ish mobs?) Does the combat evolve much? It feels pretty samey

[rugged jolt]

Yeah that's a fair assesment

[visual radish]

The stories are true yes

[wet portal]

mY have to use heavy

[rugged jolt]

Dang it sounds so interesting and awful to be in at the same time

[wet portal]

OMG REAL OG ENVOY IS TYPING

[sour marten]

I keep seeing people post in game chat to move to the regional chat instead of recruiting for convos, but I don't see any way to move to open another channel. Is this just something not implemented yet?

[rugged jolt]

oh this is Loki

[fair pivot]

@wet portal Damn I hit him with 3 butt stomps and like 20 arrows lol

[rugged jolt]

what's og enjoy?

[fair pivot]

I think hes stuck in shield mode

[distant jungle]

Check your social settings.

Regional is by default off.

Recruiting is for recruiting.

[wet portal]

try heavy attacks if ur using melee

[rugged jolt]

Man I really dig the music in this game and the art I can't get enough of this

[sour marten]

TY its been so long since Ive changed my warframe settings I forgot about these settings.

[long urchin]

heyo, is it possible to delete my character and start from scratch?

[pale raven]

is there a way to change classes

[full hearth]

No

[full hearth]

In your Nightfold, at any time. As long you have Pacts to change to.

Except in combat, of course.

[pale raven]

ahhhh how does one aquire more pacts, story progression i assume>

[fair pivot]

Where do I send a bug report on here?

[visual radish]

And crafting

[brave wing]

nothing do ringing the bell?

[smoky crater]

welcome to the useless throne of New Viscii

[pale raven]

okay so i definitly missed something along the way lol i wanna go to mage im not liking the archer esk character

[full hearth]

Only a few come from Fables. Orengall, Bromius and Garren Rood.

[stiff cliff]

Looking for MASS MURDER ODIAC endgame menace

Which totems give you the best buck for the space?

Spirit aligned mage gameplay if relevant

[full hearth]

Rest come from Enclave Offerings (& Wyld variants are currently Founder packs only)

[visual radish]

One of the fables/quests gives access to the blacksmith for crafting

[pale raven]

i recently got the blacksmith lady

[brave wing]

i hate going to some place still unfinished cuz it's like opening a present with nothing inside xD

[visual radish]

Then follow what envoy said about getting the others

[open sail]

Does anyone know how to get the stag quest to start? I have orlcik in my nightfold already

[pale raven]

i got lost and confused, the only thing that was popping up were the rose missions so ive been doing those for almost and hour or so

[median kraken]

Is it possible to show your aim point in the game?

[wet portal]

hold left click

[visual radish]

Setting in accessibility

[worthy dust]

why do people use cogah elexirs?

[half talon]

Settings--Accessibility--scroll all the way to the bottom to enable it permanently

[normal sail]

meanwhile I enjoy finding unfinished stuff so I can try to visualize how the developer is going to finish it.

plus just general OoB stuff scratches that 'ultimate' exploration itch

[median kraken]

Thanks

[visual radish]

Which quests have you done? There aren't too many of them so there's a good chance you have finished them

After the quests it's mostly grinding right now

[stiff cliff]

Curious too

[lost scarab]

Is there a best way to grind pact levels?
Is it the "infinite" waves thing too like weapons?

[wet portal]

endless is prolly the most efficient

[full hearth]

If you want pact levels, smite as much as possible in the Endless.

[wet portal]

and you can turn off your brain and listen to music

[brave wing]

when I fill the faction XP bar that appears after finishing the faction quests, does it means I won't be able to level up past that bar until I visit my enclave? I'm level 1 on faction and filled the bar to 5000XP

[full hearth]

Smites are considered ability kills so all of the XP from a Smite kill goes to your pact

[full hearth]

You need to rank up or spend it yeah

[pale raven]

im not quite sure honestly i think it was finding the rose tavern or whatnot, now all i see are rose missions, the only pact i see in the blacksmith is the stag one, how do more show up?

[wet portal]

can you even smite the creatures in endless???

[full hearth]

I suggest ranking up

[full hearth]

Mockeries wont die unless you smite them

What do you mean

[brave wing]

thanks. i was just wondering if full XP bar means max reputation or not

[wet portal]

no they die and release their souls lol

[worthy dust]

does anyone know why people use cogah elexirs? I know they activate hard mode but does it drop more loot or something

[visual radish]

Then you still have a few quests to do

You kinda need to wander around to find them iirc

[full hearth]

You need to smite the soul or it goes back into its body

[rugged jolt]

this reminds me of rhinos roar and abit of iron skin

[wet portal]

dawg smite isnt sucking the soul its exposing it

[smoky crater]

in Cogah mode the subbosses can drop different runes that wouldn't otherwise be available. also a few talismans

[wet portal]

omg real og envoy...

[worthy dust]

ah gotcha, makes sense

thank you

[blazing wharf]

yes bosses in cogah have different and better loot tables

[rain marten]

How the xp being gathered in endless should be reworked immediately. No one is smiting the mockeries for the weapon xp.

[wet portal]

ok nvm i was 100% wrong, i yield and would like to apologize

[civic heath]

using helmet emote keeps you in the weapon pose if your weapon is out

[worthy dust]

that’s neat, I made like 5 so I might run some agari here later. I really need a rune for my paragon

[wet portal]

real og envoy...

[normal sail]

he is The Envoy.
Johnvoy if you're inclined

[tender isle]

people use cogah potions to get high

[wise sequoia]

my wand is lvl 30 what do i do now

[civic heath]

idk get a different weapon or armour

[wet portal]

envoy just know ill be addressing u the same way even in a decade when its ur son playing on ur account

[civic heath]

How far in to the game are you?

[full hearth]

If you want to get absolutely pedantic you could demand me to call it a Pull Smite like the game does

But it is still, ultimately, a form of Smite.

[full hearth]

Account sharing is against ToS sorry to disappoint

[wet portal]

my response got blocked by the server

[ornate lichen]

People, I don't know whether to give the game hours, I'm afraid they will reset things.

[full hearth]

[smoky crater]

plan is not to

[full hearth]

There hasn't been account wipes since the transition from Preludes 6 to Preludes 7 and they aren't planning to do any

[wet portal]

i'm not that much of an AH lol (idk why i have to censor that)

[rugged jolt]

whoa the comabt in this game is way slower than warfarmes i like it

[wet portal]

then share with ur son and daughter cos technically thats basically 100% of your genes

[pure walrus]

Is there any reason to keep more than 1 copy of a rune?

[ornate lichen]

But there is a possibility, right?

[full hearth]

Only if it's Everflame and one of them is Long Blade and the other is Greatsword

[edgy sigil]

flex

[tender isle]

cope that you will be able to sell it later

[full hearth]

They've been telling us for the last idk, handful of devstreams that they don't plan on doing any.

[wet portal]

but tnh the drop rate is so high i doubt anyone will pay more than 5 arcs per

[full hearth]

It'd have to be a major blunder to warrant a wipe.

[normal sail]

unless the server room spontaneously combusts into a raging fire, or a meteor strikes earth, there aren't any further resets

[tender isle]

5 arcs is 5 arcs

[wet portal]

they said theyre planning on keeping progress

[full hearth]

If you want it directly from DE, you can refer to the FAQ. https://www.soulframe.com/en/game/faq

[full hearth]

Yes hence i said major blunder

[ornate lichen]

perfect thx

[full hearth]

Like database going poof

[wet portal]

misunderstood mb

[rugged jolt]

oh using a bow feels better with mouse than controller

[wet portal]

its legitimately good

[halcyon thicket]

Aiming in general i think does

[wet portal]

except for when ur arrows go baxkward

[wet portal]

i havent played with the staff yet

[halcyon thicket]

I'd love to see that

[wet portal]

but ive maxed 6 longswords lol

[halcyon thicket]

Staff has auto aim so there's that

[lime chasm]

do you guys know why tracking faction exp is so awful? is there another way besides going back to my faction everytime?

[wet portal]

something about that marrows bane was calling me

[halcyon thicket]

At the end of faction tales u get a summary

[lime chasm]

my summary was wrong is my issue 😭 Said I had 19950, and when I did another rank 1 to get the remaining 50 to rank up, when I went to the faction, I had only 10250? It doesnt make sense

[edgy sigil]

nope you're running all the way to the enclave like the rest of us

[brave wing]

having to cross the whole map to reach my enclave it's kinda annoying. i don't have any seeds for tp

[tender isle]

summary is a sum of all previous levels

[lime chasm]

I dislike the scarlet one being on the far left side of the map 😭 why cant it be centered like the rest

[halcyon thicket]

Orrrr you use the middle of map tp trick

[wet portal]

just subtract from what you spent

[halcyon thicket]

By entering gardens and leaving

[wet portal]

THAT'S A THING???

[halcyon thicket]

For me personally it's been consistent

[wet portal]

do u know how much time ive wasted without doing that

by not*

[halcyon thicket]

Well of course, go to gardens menu, then click leave

[rugged jolt]

oh oyu can throw your weapon

[halcyon thicket]

Sends u to the middle

[lime chasm]

I didn't know it functioned like that is the issue
I just want a normal meter to track, not needing to subtract what I've earned across existence.

[edgy sigil]

m a t h

[rugged jolt]

I'm gonna ba warrior

[lime chasm]

They made warframe, they know how to do factions

[halcyon thicket]

I agree display UI is weird

[pure walrus]

polished gildaur or verite for purity?

[edgy sigil]

I got so excited once when the UI said I got 15 wevetseeds :c

[lime chasm]

I'd be less annoyed if I could just fast travel specifically to my faction. Or have a basic UI to display it
instead its overcomplicated

[tender isle]

oh so you tp when leaving garden, good to know

[halcyon thicket]

Gildaur is nice for life steal with the high base damage

[pure walrus]

Is it a preference thing on that, or is there like, a wrong answer

[halcyon thicket]

Nah

[pliant sleet]

where do I get the code? I only received account confirmation by email

[halcyon thicket]

Preference

[halcyon thicket]

From streams on twitch

[forest harbor]

anybody knows how to get free key

[halcyon thicket]

Make sure you link ur twitch account to soulframe.com

[brave wing]

where can I farm Gossamer quartz? not in the crypt, something around lvl 20

[pure walrus]

Also, just to verify, if I reforge an unranked weapon with a non-blessed joinery, I still get mastery ranking it up, yes?

[halcyon thicket]

U can't

[static musk]

Buy it or crypts. Those are the farms. Otherwise it’s random flower chests.

[edgy sigil]

yuh

[halcyon thicket]

Has to be lvl30 to be able to use a blessed

Oh I'm blind

[tender isle]

they clearly said non blessed

[edgy sigil]

bro they said non blessed lol

[halcyon thicket]

My brain really just deleted "non-"

[edgy sigil]

more coffee

[halcyon thicket]

Almost Mimir time

[brave wing]

but the crypt it's very high level no?

[halcyon thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-cat-reversed-gif-16747359482824525043

[static musk]

Nah. It’s not too bad. Take a magic weapon maybe. Like a staff.

[edgy sigil]

oml we have a sleeping sinecure emote what

[static musk]

It’s definitely not like lvl 30-40.

[edgy sigil]

[halcyon thicket]

:shrimp sleep when

[lime chasm]

I require a mount 💔

[full hearth]

Denied

[lime chasm]

I wish we had them before fast travel ngl

[wise sequoia]

how do u gain 'arts'? Got my wand lvl 30 and still only has 5 arts

[wet portal]

@full hearth im gonna doxx your garden

[static musk]

Level other wands?

[wise sequoia]

its 5 per weapon?

[hard sparrow]

Is there a way to plant a founder's flower? When I'm going there its full....

[tender isle]

per unique weapon ye

[pure walrus]

speaking non-cumulatively, are higher ranks of pacts and weapons more costly in experience than lower ones, or is the distance from 1 to 2 the same as the distance from 19 to 20?

[full hearth]

[wise sequoia]

then why do weapon perks have so many points

[tender isle]

there are a lot of weapons

[lost scarab]

What's the approximate chances to have an infinite room in a Glades dungeon?

[full hearth]

The points pool together, the combat arts are shared.

[static musk]

On the travel screen, pick a different box/plotset. each numbered box is a different instance. Find one that’s not totally blue

[hard sparrow]

ahh thats how it works, yes i see now thank you!

[full hearth]

The background of the box indicates how full the instance is yeah

[static musk]

The characters and players in the garden are shared. But each player only sees the flowers of the specific instance they picked. At least I’m pretty sure that’s how it works

Cuz when I kept bouncing around to find open plots all the same players seemed to be there

[sterile pine]

I've come to one conclusion with all the folk in region chat and such saying the grenades one and two shot them. I may be one of the only players with above 12 magic def

like yeah they can hurt but not that much if your gear is up to par

[wise sequoia]

this game has no real ranged combat, if you wanna deal any dmg you stagger and then go melee for left click even with wand

[static musk]

Tbf there’s so many grenades, each one feels like the first. lol.

But the grenade reduction did help a bunch.

[sterile pine]

if you'r egoing to consistantly be far enough away that they constantly throw nades and arrows ta you and you can't dodge in time up magic def

[pale raven]

can someone explain pacts, how do i get more of them, rn i only have the option to craft the stag pact from the first boss. i dont wanna be an archer anymore i wanna be a mage build but i dont know how to switch over and find more pacts?

[sterile pine]

yeah but with a lil magic def and stagger def you can kinda just ignore them lol

[simple prism]

@wise sequoia someone's never heard of a bow

[static musk]

So you can buy them with actual money. Or preferably you get them from bosses and then craft them

[sterile pine]

after their nerf it hit me just how easy it was to just get hit and ignore them now compared to the past

[static musk]

Technically factions sell them too but it takes a long time to earn the rep to buy them. But you can freely equip whatever weapon your like

[pale raven]

is it set bosses or is it drop luck

[tired sail]

Pacts are unrelated to your weapon, and the other starter weapons should be obtainable in The Last Pensive quest, unless they are somehow missable now.

[simple prism]

@sterile pine no you buy other pacts from rank 3 faction standings

[static musk]

If you don’t wanna be an archer just equip a staff. Easy peasy. 🙂

[sterile pine]

what are you talking about

[pale raven]

should rephrase, i want different abilities

[static musk]

Oh also avakot sells the boss pacts. The animal pacts. For 20k each.

[sterile pine]

I have pacts

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[wet portal]

a steal compared to those faction scamlords

[static musk]

It’s the animal bosses, the animal quests bean. Stag, wolf and bear

[pale raven]

the camel?

[tired sail]

The other starting pacts can be purchased at your faction starting hub

[static musk]

The camel will sell you pacts for real money

[pale raven]

question. how many pacts are there currently to obtain

[static musk]

Avakot is the little green bean dude. You can find him around randomly. Or in oros well, which is a cave just east for fort curtail

[normal sail]

i might have capitalism camel'd to get the remaining pacts whilst DE is still (presumably) making tweaks to the standing system

[pale raven]

these?

[static musk]

Uh…3 base, plus 3 animal plus fire and lightning. 8ish. If you don’t count the wilds which are duplicates of the base pacts

[keen roost]

What does the stars mean?

[static musk]

Those cost actual real money

[sterile pine]

what it feels like when you have 10 magic defense against the nerfed grenades

[static musk]

But you can earn them elsewhere

[pale raven]

well i founded and got 1100 arc things so i might as well use them right

[frigid spoke]

alleged difficulty

[keen roost]

ah ok

[sterile pine]

I would not advise to use them on those

[static musk]

I bought Nora’s hand. The fire pact. That way. Yeah. It is a lot faster than using faction rep. So it makes some sense. IF you really don’t wanna wait.

[frigid spoke]

Save the cash money for slots. Everything else can be grabbed with time n effort

[sterile pine]

I just would not use them for any pacts other than those at most like picking the ones from a faction you don't have

[static musk]

I would definitely not buy the animals from the camel though. Don’t buy bear or stag or wolf cuz those are really insanely cute quests

[wet portal]

or cosmetics 🤭

[sterile pine]

cosmetics are worth tho just because fashion is end game

[sterile pine]

and tethren osceld and sirin are so low rank and on alal 3 factions these days so it doesn't matter

like you will get them

[pale raven]

i just want better abilties than what i started with, if someone could kindly point me in a direction to get better ones i would be glad, i know you need pacts for different abilities, is it like set abilities per pact. and how do you get more pacts, i dont have any active quest idk where to go lol.

[static musk]

Hmm..do you have the blacksmith unlocked yet?

[pale raven]

i do i do, only the stag available

[sterile pine]

what better abilities do you mean?

[lime chasm]

i didnt know the rose people could water walk

[sterile pine]

Like arguably in direct combat sirin is the only one falling behind?

[pale raven]

your 1, 2, 3 abilities, i dont like the ones i have at all

[sterile pine]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-sasuke-naruto-vs-sasuke-sasuke-and-naruto-og-naruto-gif-25021439

[lime chasm]

great against humanoids, awful against anything that isnt a humanoid.

[sterile pine]

Tethren and oscelda are so crazy powerful they're the ones used mostly in cogah

[lime chasm]

the clones blow up for good damage but id rather just not play a sirin at all in cogah

[sly escarp]

Depends, for a finisher invis build it's Quite good, but in an all out brawl yeah It falls off a bit.

[static musk]

What did you start as? Blue? Sir in?

[sly escarp]

And Bromius

[sterile pine]

just never use bromius in co op

[pale raven]

blue correct

[unreal wolf]

How can I tell the different ranks of totems apart?

like their rarity or strength

[ruby flower]

Can you activate the Tree in the island up north?

[sterile pine]

then just run the stag which is the best AOE in the game atm

[sly escarp]

You all co-op?

[sterile pine]

my co op is mostly helping lil level 1 friends with giant flaming sword of 500 damage

god everlfame and gildaur on a sword are a meme

[pastel kernel]

Hello Everyone!

[sterile pine]

every hit just heals me by half my health

[static musk]

Hmmm. Your faction should have a hideout along the beach in the west. Idr what you need to get in and start getting quests from them. Once you do you can do their quests to earn the ability to buy red or green.

[sly escarp]

The bronze with green leaves is lowest rarity, silver with purple is uncommon, gold with gold leaves is rare. Keep in mind the rarity is SET per totem, so all Rats for long blade are rare and all Rats for short blade are common.

[pale raven]

okay ill try stag, but after how do you go about getting the other pacts, (non animal) say i wanted tethren how would i figure out how to get it

[static musk]

Oh also bean. You paid money. Do you just HAVE other pacts you can equip? Did you check your armory?

[sterile pine]

just level your faction up a little bit

[sterile pine]

that too founder pacts come with one

[pale raven]

no i only purchased the blue guy, he does have another pact but its the exact same abilities and skill tree

[sly escarp]

Sirin, Oscelda, and Tethren are sold at all faction shops at mid Faction Rank. Ode Tempest is sold at Alca's Children and Silent Rose at max rank. Mora's hand is sold at Kith of Kings at max rank. Garren Rood, Orengall, and Bromius come from completing quests

[sterile pine]

ah so you picked blue twice

[pale raven]

god send thank you for thhis info

[sterile pine]

this is why its important to read what you buy.

[weak hazel]

Is there a specific place to farm feybalt. I've been playing on and off since preludes 9 and have none of it, not even the trash versions, only the other blessed joineries.

[sly escarp]

That's Wyld Sirin, it's the same as Base Sirin in terms of abilities but lets you upgrade it further. It's like a "special" version of the same pact.

[pale raven]

i did read. how can i know if ill like an ability before playing it.

[sly escarp]

Crypts drop Feybalt, usually polished even due to all being high level

[static musk]

You know…I feeeeel like I earned a bunch in the crypt. But I don’t know if any of it was real

[sterile pine]

I meant reading what you got. You also can try your pacts before choosing in the tutorial. Since you paid for wyld sirin and then picked normal sirin on top after testing normal sirin.

[static musk]

The crypt was a fever dream of desperate whiny gossamer begging for me. Lol

[weak hazel]

Thank you very much. As in the urns or the mobs?

[sterile pine]

I remember when every pot in the crypt guaranteed metal

[sly escarp]

The sarcophagi

[static musk]

The sarcophagus with the glowy lids

[weak hazel]

Ahhhhhh.

[sly escarp]

Use Soul Mode to look for the glowy ones

Those can be opened

[weak hazel]

Ok. I know where I'm going. Thank you so much.

[static musk]

There’s only like 0-3 per crypt run

Have fun!!! lol

[pale raven]

whats everyones favorite pact?

[sterile pine]

I like oscelda and garren

[sly escarp]

Personally a big fan of Bromius. He has an ability that lets you sit on enemies and kill them in an AoE

[sterile pine]

I like just pointing garren in a vague direction and winning a faction tale

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4068093

[static musk]

Green/ Osceola cuz I’m a healer at heart. Moras hand really took me by surprise. It SUCKED for like the first 15 minutes. And then it became god

[sly escarp]

Fair! There's really no wrong answer of Fav Pact rn.

[static musk]

Stampede shocked me with how hard it hits

[sterile pine]

moment you do 20 courage and 20 spirit its auto win

[sly escarp]

Like, the Worst Pact is maybe Ode Tempest but even that's all around okay, not great but not unusable.

[static musk]

Esp after torment doing so little. To see that hack off half a cannon’s health? Heck yeah

[sterile pine]

like the only thing that garren is bad at is bosses

[sonic adder]

when can you start co op in the game?

[sly escarp]

Anytime after Rise Envoy iirc

[pale raven]

what is iirc

[sly escarp]

But co-op is all party invites

There's no matchmaking

[sly escarp]

If I recall correctly

[zenith knoll]

i am ready for winter

[sly escarp]

Basically saying "grain of salt because memory might be a bit off"

[sterile pine]

https://tenor.com/view/old-woman-im-old-freaky-friday-body-switch-old-gif-7577078

[karmic fjord]

Hey guys! I'm trying to max out skýlver so I can finally attune them to courage, but leveling flyblades feels SO slow compared to other sidearms... Am I missing something here? I'm not even pulling out my main weapon out of fear of it stealing XP

[sterile pine]

having folk ask what old forum lingo is throws me off

[pale raven]

im probably older but i dont know alot of discord slang lol

[sterile pine]

oh its not discord

its older a lot older

[sly escarp]

No, no, get that bare arm off! Throw on the Bear Arm, it has a nice fur lining! Or Wolf Arm for a leather fur heat sink.

[pale raven]

i never really was in forumns

[outer ice]

I reforged my bow at lv5

[static musk]

Firepact bb. A nice pool noodle on that arm. With chains

[karmic fjord]

you can't use blessed (the ones thar allow you to change attunement) unless the weapon is max rank

[outer ice]

Ah Ok, I used a polished

[zenith knoll]

better?

[outer ice]

But 30-60mins endless and the weapon is Max Level

Even sidearm

[sly escarp]

Much!

[outer ice]

I leveled 3 flyblades yesterday to lv30

[lost scarab]

What's the scaling of a pact?
For example, it says about Orengall that it's a pact of Spirit, does it mean spells will scale off Spirit? Thus I need to use Spirit weapons with it ideally?

[sly escarp]

They changed how Endless XP works

[karmic fjord]

Did you use orbiting + main weapon or only flyblade?

[sly escarp]

Spirit is Ability Duration, Courage is Strength, and Grace is Range

[outer ice]

Explain

[keen roost]

Wait non cogah runes can drop in Cogah mode? I got so happy when Nimrod dropped a rune but its just the normal one

[static musk]

I think it’s more “as this levels up it has more of this stat”? Or maybe it’s just flavor. Idk

[outer ice]

I leveled 3 flyblades a couple of days ago to Max Level

[lost scarab]

Yeah I know, and it wasn't my question haha but I might've asked it poorly.

[lost scarab]

Oh that'd make sense, thanks!

[sly escarp]

If you go in solo, the mockery soul pulls will only give pact XP. Now kills only give XP to the source that killed them, and Smites count as a Pact kill. In multi it's spread across all items evenly if another player kills.

[outer ice]

I only did in party

[keen roost]

Are normal non cogah runes supposed to drop in Cogah mode or is that a bug?

[outer ice]

And it was quite fast for all, pact side and main

[sly escarp]

Oh, it means it gives you a bump of that stat. Orengall gives like +5 Spirit

[sly escarp]

So your allies were giving XP to your flyblades with kills, which is why they levelled up at all. Doing endless Solo will only ever level up your Pact.

[karmic fjord]

that explains a lot

[sterile pine]

give us back the ancient ode variant of endless

[lost scarab]

Oh that's it, thanks!

[viral quest]

When does the daily faction cap reset?

[outer ice]

Doing endless solo. Why would you Do that

[karmic fjord]

I'm theorizing the flyblade rune kills also give pact XP only

[sterile pine]

before we used to be able to level up weapons that way

[sly escarp]

Some people prefer not to party up.

[keen roost]

depends on time zone for me its 7pm

im canadian

[sly escarp]

So yeah, Endless is still great if you run a squad. If you prefer solo, it's not as helpful.

[viral quest]

Thank you!

[sly escarp]

It's a small caveat to recommending Endless for levelling is all.

[outer ice]

Leveled all pacts and I guess 20 weapons to Max in 3 days

So Yeah was quite good XP

Even got All runes in that days

[sterile pine]

for solo levelling weapons cogah enemies are the best way

[keen roost]

even cogah runes damn thats lucky

ive been only getting 1 rune drop per Cogah boss run

and the last one i got wasnt even the cogah rune that drops just the normal non cogah one

[unborn marsh]

dose the wild Avacot recorce merchent stop spawning permanently afer you hit envoy rank 11 casue i csnt find it anywhere

[static musk]

I can’t imagine it would (unless buggd). But why find him in the wild? Just go to oro’s well

[outer ice]

Did 5 or 6 cogah runs for All runes.

Got archer one 3 Times in a row. And in the last run 4 cogah runes

[keen roost]

damn lucky thats the one i want to most rn

[outer ice]

Pretty strong and fun to play

Tethren bow with this Rune is pretty good

[keen roost]

ive only gotten the long sword one that shoots blades out and just a normal flyblade rune i already had from doing non cogah bosses

[outer ice]

Keep going

[sterile pine]

I like my everflame gildaur sword because it does funny things

[keen roost]

Gotta wait another 3 hours now just finished the boss run

[sterile pine]

I love healing to full in two hits

[sleek hawk]

so what is the farthest you can get in the game story wise. i made it to the bear but i dont have any quest after that

[hard sparrow]

How to unlock the coga elixir?

[sterile pine]

the bear is the final story quest atm

[keen roost]

get rat lady to rank 2 by making potions or dye's then it starts quest for cogah unlock

[sleek hawk]

is it pretty much just run around find stuff and boss fight after that? im just trying to see more content im missing if any

[sterile pine]

just grind, kill bosses, unlock cogah

[outer ice]

Just go in chat and Do it with others hosting it

You dont have to wait for your respawn

[sterile pine]

a lot of weaker players will practically beg for you to come kill a boss

I know because I saw it happening like 4 times in region chat this morning lol

[hard sparrow]

thank you

[outer ice]

If I just waited for mine to respawn I hadnt gotten it now

[keen roost]

ill ask around in chat then, I tend to like solo play more but waiting 3 hours between cogah runs does suck

[outer ice]

Just watch Chat. Every 5-10mins some is hosting cogah

[sterile pine]

a lot of folk can't handle cogah bosses alone so they do want your help

[outer ice]

Really dont know why people dont wanna Group up. Makes stuff so much easier and faster

[sterile pine]

I like things being a threat. After doing a co op run with two very low level folkin cogah

I realized how easy it is to stagger lock a boss for their entire bar

[outer ice]

You can do that solo aswell with Orbit flyblades

[sterile pine]

not to the same level and even then I don't do that for a reason. And I mean almost constantly hitting full stagger gauage

[outer ice]

And I guess HP is solo lower as well so a good build is solo better

[mighty sparrow]

Does anyone have a fix for getting the fable for kith of kings factions missions to show on map?

[sterile pine]

like, I'm not kidding when I got to see things like the mendicant king being unable to launch a single attack, cogah nimrod only getting his first attack off etc

[sterile pine]

are you in cogah

[outer ice]

But you can do that solo as well.

With last bow shot as tethren you one Hit most of the bosses

[sterile pine]

that's not quite the same as staggering a boss into submission

I'm talking about people in starter gear

[outer ice]

Yes thats right

[sterile pine]

without joineries or totems

[outer ice]

Yeah Sure

[smoky crater]

waaaao

double will-o-wing

[sterile pine]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-the-plant-vegans-gif-23768796

[outer ice]

Btw what's the max number of totems

[sterile pine]

be a lil more specifc, max number in what way

[outer ice]

Couple of days ago it said 83,today 92

[sterile pine]

oh that idk

I never let mine get that high

[outer ice]

I am at 70ish

[outer ice]

You dont loose them so number will always go up or did I miss something

[sterile pine]

I release them when I don't need htem for more materials

[outer ice]

Didnt know you can do that

[cerulean sedge]

Yeah I go through every few days and release multiples of non-rare totems

[frigid spoke]

I keep three of each, everything else goes for upgrade material

[outer ice]

Good to know

[mighty sparrow]

no not in cogah

[static musk]

It’s annoying to do because you have to be on the screen to equip them. Right?

[sterile pine]

yeah, and can only do one at a time so I'm careful now to not let them build up too far

[static musk]

You can’t just release them from the inventory page that has all of them

[rocky grove]

does hitting perfect notes on the flute make the rewards better or does the minigame not matter?

[keen roost]

it do

[frosty ivy]

Hi everyone. Does anyone still have an access key

[sterile pine]

you get more upgrade mats and if you do perfect for each flower you get cute animation

[static musk]

Twitch drops are available today

[rocky grove]

does it affect the quality of the mod drop?

[distant jungle]

No.

Just the harmony you get.

[static musk]

You may wanna check to see if any Soulframe streamers are running with drops enabled.

[distant jungle]

And 'quality' is set per weapon, there's no variation there.

[frozen lagoon]

Kann mir jemand helfen wie ich da raus komme. Ich hab eine Quest angenommen wo der Gegner viel zu stark ist. Außerdem läuft eine grausame Hintergrundmusik jetzt immer und ich kann meine Ausrüstung nicht mehr anpassen.
Can someone help me get out of there? I accepted a quest where the opponent is way too strong. Also, a terrible background music is playing all the time now and I can't adjust my equipment anymore.

[distant jungle]

A weapon that has gold rat will always have gold rat, one that has basic rat will always have basic rat.

[outer ice]

I have a few from founders Packs

[distant jungle]

I wouldn't reward the asking spam, as it's against the rules.

Dude has been repeating himself across multiple channels.

[outer ice]

Wirf das consumable.auf den und hau ihn um

[brave wing]

what level has the crypt?

[rocky grove]

im stuck on this step how can i find where to go

[frigid spoke]

english server, say that again in english if you're looking for help

[outer ice]

Depends on where it is

[static musk]

Is that the quest where they make you use cloudquell to weaken him?

[frozen lagoon]

Das Item ausrüsten ?

[outer ice]

Das was in der quest steht

[brave wing]

yes, i know there's 3 entrances but I have not much idea what's their levels. where can I go for a 20 level or so

[weak hazel]

I take it back, it's not worth it farming feybalt. Thank you for the advice earlier anyway.

[frozen lagoon]

Ich danke Dir

[frigid spoke]

Bro, no offense but we all might want to help. Don't make it bad.

[sterile pine]

you'll honestly find it eventually anyways is my thing. Also @weak hazel you CAN eventually buy a blessed version of your faction's virtue for any

[outer ice]

Chill

Dont be the Police

[mild wolf]

I bought Orengall pact at the vendor, I dont see it in my pacts list though?

[frigid spoke]

rtfr man

[sterile pine]

did you build it?

[weak hazel]

Oh really. I didn't realise. I know you could buy blessed versions of other joineries that way. I think I'll stick to that, thank you.

[static musk]

So if you buy with money money, you can just equip it.
Everyone else has to get it then build it

[outer ice]

We are good He got help

[mild wolf]

i bought it for 20k

oh no was that just the recipe?

[rocky grove]

why did my world turn foggy and dark, is this weather or did i do something

[static musk]

Yep. Gotta build them. Yep.

[sterile pine]

yeah, you can pick any of them but they're alwaysg onna be blessed for your faction's virtue and ofc need to be level 30 to use a blessed. But you can do it to skip grind

[outer ice]

Yea

[mild wolf]

i already had it doh

[sly escarp]

You're nearby a Collector

[static musk]

Credit cards get to skip the build. I should have been more clear. My apologies.

[sly escarp]

Be careful

Nimrod's a pain

[weak hazel]

I hit max rank with Kith of Kings at least.

[sterile pine]

then grats if you run courage builds you can just get a blessed courage one and then you're all set.

[rocky grove]

what does that mean

[half talon]

Time for a new faction! Then you get to do it all over again! But you also can get new pacts, armor and weapons.

[sly escarp]

Collector is a World Event that spawns every 6 hours, and basically consists of fighting waves of Enemies and then a boss.

[frozen lagoon]

this Item with Key X ?

[weak hazel]

Cheers for that. My only worry though is that I should hold back from reforging since they'll likely change up the virtues system.

[sterile pine]

Imma be real I'm stickin with my alca babies until we get more passive ways for rep

[static musk]

That should take some of his lightning offline. If you’re on the Lightning dude. Yeah

[weak hazel]

Wow I'm so excited, it's like Warframe but worse. But yes I'll have to do that.

[weak mesa]

Hello, i'm new in the game and with my friend we want to play together, when we can invite to play ?

[half talon]

Understandable. I’m glad I farmed when they first came out.

[sly escarp]

There's 4 5 ways to get in right now:

• Be invited on Wednesday, this comes with 4 friend codes
• Buy a Founder pack, this comes with 2 or 10 friend codes depending on pack
• Redeem a friend code, this just gets you access, no additional codes
• Watch a devstream/Envoy Hour that has Twitch Drops enabled, these get you access the same way redeeming a code would. And if you already had access, watching will get you another friend code
• Starting December 5th until December 8th there will be a directory-wide Twitch Drop campaign for Soulframe, watch ANY stream on Twitch with drops enabled in the Soulframe category for 30 minutes to get an access code!

[static musk]

Twitch drops are live today.

[sterile pine]

odds are they won't fully redo virtues, at best they may change how some things scale, but it would really need a total reset to undo something this basic on it now

[weak mesa]

How u can invite my friend in the game, it's always offline

[winter nebula]

is vernal pool broken

[brave wing]

is this level map accurate and up to date? it's from 3 months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulFrame/comments/1n6txzo/heatmap_of_enemy_levels/

[distant jungle]

No.

[frigid spoke]

Not really

[distant jungle]

That was shuffled around even before the new walls went up.

[frigid spoke]

Highest lvls pre cogah are around the east coast with northeast usually having the higher but it still varies. Go cogah and I think everything is 30+

[smoky crater]

WHA HAPPEN D:

[brave wing]

do we have anything like that updated? i wanna farm in the crypt but I don't want to face lvl 30 enemies

checking the avakot map it say all the 3 crypts are level 10-15 and i'm not sure if that's true

[echo heron]

cogah bosses isnt spawning...

[weak hazel]

Did you kill their normal version? Apparently both bosses share a 3 hour timer now.

[frigid spoke]

They do not share a timer

[crystal cliff]

they are on the same timer

[keen roost]

Any hand of mora mains out there? I wanna know if these are worth putting points into?

[rocky grove]

is moonsteel thread a paid resource? how does customization work?

[smoky crater]

smolder, yes iirc

[crystal cliff]

The cogah bosses have always been the same spawn as the normal you have to wait for them to respawn if you killed them in normal

[echo heron]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-csm-stare-anime-rain-gif-17751007222649062258

[keen roost]

wait really how good is it

[echo heron]

previously you can force respawn them with cogah

[brittle nacelle]

do we get increased XP from cogah mobs? I felt like I was getting more xp from clearing sincure camps while in cogah than doing a couple waves of lv200 endless

[echo heron]

yes more exp

[frigid spoke]

All of my runs go kill 9 or so regular and go cogah and kill the same bosses right after, well under the 3 hours timer. I do it daily. The mendicant king seems to be the only one that doesn't do that.

[crystal cliff]

you ABSOLUTELY could not, ive done lots of cogah since this new mode went live

[sly escarp]

Thread can be bought for premium currency, it unlocks an item appearance permanently to be applied to other items in the same slot

[echo heron]

due to more lvl

[smoky crater]

it's good for passive crowd control. lights up enemies on fire after a short while of just staring at them

[keen roost]

how many points should I put into it?

[echo heron]

i could

[crystal cliff]

then you were glitched

they fixed a bug that allowed people to respawn bosses recently

clearly you were abusing said bug

[smoky crater]

would probably be fine with just 3 points total used?

[echo heron]

ionnow about abusing but i see it as feature

[rocky grove]

so that appearance can be any armor piece and it overrides the current one? does it change stats at all or no

[brittle nacelle]

ah hoped it's just a passive of cogah so I could do endless while in cogah and actually feel like I'm getting xp

[keen roost]

ok is Hungry flame worth putting more then just the manditory first point?

[sly escarp]

It's an aesthetic thing, only changes appearance. If you thread, say, Arbearers Helm you can make any Helm look like Arbearer's helm when equipped.

[smoky crater]

not sure honestly. haven't played with the pact yet after it got its changes with P12

[static musk]

I haven’t paid attention to hungry flame. But mora goes so hard with the burn dots. I’ll accidentally kill crap I wasn’t even meaning to all the time, between the 1 and the passive

[devout geode]

If im not mistaken. Technically yes, you cannot acquire more atm without spending money/arcs (premium currency)

[echo heron]

🗿

[rocky grove]

does the bestitching consume the armor piece?

[echo heron]

now thats will put a hold to my exp farm

[keen roost]

How much points should I put into ever bound I know HP is very important

[sly escarp]

No

[keen roost]

like any recommendations on where I should spend last 5 points?

[static musk]

They just boosted passive hp gains. I would honestly just respec and add a point or two IF you feel like you need it

[rocky grove]

how do u get more colors?

[static musk]

Founders get some. Each faction has one

[sly escarp]

Can buy from faction shops and craft at Verminia

[keen roost]

I was kinda relying on Sympathy for healing but if I go more into hungry flame the life steal might be enough to sustain

[devout geode]

Wyld pact purchases in the store/founders. I think the level 2 quest she has unlocks a free one as well

[torpid flume]

what do i do to start playing the game?

[sly escarp]

Faction shops sell colour bps too

[echo heron]

boss farm

[sly escarp]

There's 4 5 ways to get in right now:

• Be invited on Wednesday, this comes with 4 friend codes
• Buy a Founder pack, this comes with 2 or 10 friend codes depending on pack
• Redeem a friend code, this just gets you access, no additional codes
• Watch a devstream/Envoy Hour that has Twitch Drops enabled, these get you access the same way redeeming a code would. And if you already had access, watching will get you another friend code
• Starting December 5th until December 8th there will be a directory-wide Twitch Drop campaign for Soulframe, watch ANY stream on Twitch with drops enabled in the Soulframe category for 30 minutes to get an access code!

[static musk]

If you haven’t been invited yet, make an account on the website. Link a twitch. And afk a twitch streamer today for like half an hour on your phone

[torpid flume]

i downloaded but now it says checking https network route

[muted edge]

Guys how do i get an invitation to play the preludes

[sly escarp]

Check for an Explorer panel, it's asking for an install location

[sly escarp]

There's 4 5 ways to get in right now:

• Be invited on Wednesday, this comes with 4 friend codes
• Buy a Founder pack, this comes with 2 or 10 friend codes depending on pack
• Redeem a friend code, this just gets you access, no additional codes
• Watch a devstream/Envoy Hour that has Twitch Drops enabled, these get you access the same way redeeming a code would. And if you already had access, watching will get you another friend code
• Starting December 5th until December 8th there will be a directory-wide Twitch Drop campaign for Soulframe, watch ANY stream on Twitch with drops enabled in the Soulframe category for 30 minutes to get an access code!

[torpid flume]

i have no idea what im doing lol

it has my folder popped up with it but im not sure what to do

[sly escarp]

If you hit "select" it will install in the default location

If you want it installed elsewhere navigate there in explorer and hit Select on the folder you want it installed in instead.

[shut salmon]

What quest, fable should i do for that grace sirin faction? Because idk why i got tethren when i chose sirin

[solar mirage]

courage, spirit or grace? which one is more difficult to play?

[static musk]

Did you buy a founder pack?

[chilly rose]

For Bow build would I wanna go Courage or Grace?

[static musk]

Blue is a little rougher to start

[shut salmon]

No, i want to test this game first

[sly escarp]

What do you mean "got Tethren when you chose Sirin"

[crystal cliff]

ultimately --- you build the stats the weapn you are are using is attuned to... you can always change them later with a blessed joinery...GENERALLY courage seems to be the best attunement right now

[static musk]

Weird. I was thinking founders got some pacts in addition to what they chose. That’s why I was wondering

[sly escarp]

You chose Tethren on game startup and the tutorial right?

[crystal hill]

i hate the new update, i lost already multiple legendary totems, because some random enemy hit me while trying get it

fr i hate this

[sly escarp]

Buying a founder pack only gets you the Wyld Pacts

[shut salmon]

Idk i was testing sirin in that try on and when it was done i was pressed continue and ended up with tethren

[echo heron]

wyld pacts will give ya 60 points

in total with the non wyld

[sly escarp]

Well, that's not good...

[shut salmon]

No

[echo heron]

stacks up

[static musk]

Right. That’s what I was thinking though; if he was saying he got teeth but chose sirin I was thinking maybe he had both essentially. Cuz of monies. But it doesn’t sound like that’s what happened

[sly escarp]

Maybe log that in #1438224825113120788 @shut salmon !

That doesn't sound right!

[shut salmon]

Help me first how do i join the sirin faction thing so i can craft it

[static musk]

You start in kith of kin’s. And they’ll sell you both sirin and oscel

At rank 3 I believe?

[shut salmon]

Oh alright

[static musk]

That’ll be faster than joining sirin. But to join them, they’re in a cave on the west coast beach

[shut salmon]

But i need quest for that? Cuz i have the invitation quest for kith king

[sly escarp]

If you just want the pact and weapon, just buy them from the Faction Shop after ranking them up enough. If you want the full faction swap, you'll need to craft a Rose Bodkin.

[static musk]

Yeah. You’d have to find them some booze. Idr where I got mine. That’s why i was thinking kith of king would just be faster for you 🩷

[sly escarp]

An Invitation will start you in Kith of Kings

[shut salmon]

Im just running to kings

[crystal hill]

wyld pacts ...60 points...only with €?... 💀

[sly escarp]

And you can buy the weapon and pact from them after ranking them up

[sly escarp]

They'll be coming to the game for all players later

Founders buying get them early

[shut salmon]

At least it’s a faction name worth me

[keen roost]

Does anyone know if using a blessed ore with say courage on an already courage weapon increase its courage scaling or does nothing happen?

[sly escarp]

It would be the exact same as equipping a Polished but would reset the weapon level to 0

So just use a polished

[keen roost]

dang ok ty

[turbid idol]

did i finish the map?

[echo heron]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-csm-stare-anime-rain-gif-17751007222649062258

[glad jay]

Yea looks like it

[turbid idol]

so why is there still fog

[glad jay]

Where in the top right

[turbid idol]

look its around the whole map

[glad jay]

Yea but theres no land there

[sly escarp]

There's a small bit of the map that got expanded but the fog clearing wasn't.

So it just looks like there's something hidden therr

[glad jay]

Check your inventory for a fork weapon. If u have it u got all of them

[turbid idol]

k

marrows bane

[glad jay]

Nah its dunc halik

[keen roost]

Wait can you not life steal while burning?

[glad jay]

U should have it

[rocky grove]

can you break down duplicate weapon totems?

[runic latch]

just coming back to game. right now it has me just doing quests for my main first enclave. am I supposed to just keep doing these tales or should I be trying to find the main quest again or is that part of it?

[keen roost]

nvm you can life steal is just so low

[sly escarp]

If you mean the melee health recovery, it only lets you recover health from the last damage taken, fire dot procs override recovering health from larger hits by making you only recover the DoT damage tick.

[glad jay]

Yea that

[glad jay]

Yea thats it

[keen roost]

Oh thats terribly designed

[sly escarp]

You can find more quests by exploring, faction stuff is good for getting new gear.

Your call which is the priority

[sly escarp]

Yes, go to the Totem view menu and right click to release and gain Harmony

[runic latch]

in terms of a main questline though or order to it, outside of enclave related, is there a particular order to follow?

[silver knot]

Speaking of gear does anyone know what weapons sirin and oscelda start with

[sly escarp]

Past An Invitation, main quests are a bit a la carte. Some are prereqs for others, like Brewer of Hues leading straight into Waste Bear.

[sly escarp]

Thistle and Gwylen respectively

[runic latch]

ah okay ty

[silver knot]

Thanks

[chilly rose]

Where did I read that you can replay quest and get more courage stats?

[rocky grove]

what are joineries?

[sly escarp]

This isn't correct.

You can replay some quests to reselect the Virtue you chose for some dialogue options, but that's all.

[sly escarp]

You use them to Reforge a weapon and they add damage and other stats to it.

[chilly rose]

Ahhh so say I am going full courage and I chose grace/spirit I can replay to re-select?

[sly escarp]

Should be, yes.

[silver knot]

These and others like them. Blacksmith needs rank 2 before you can start attaching them

[echo heron]

build random things, armor, wpn, talismans increases the blacksmith's exp

not to mention her immaculate drip :D

https://tenor.com/view/satono-diamond-uma-musume-satono-satono-diamond-worm-gif-10400485730432458344

[azure basalt]

hello, I was playing in a party, only two of us, however after finishing the quest the torment stag, only one of received the pact Garren Rood. Please advise why this is happening?

[echo heron]

just farm a bit of coins and buy from avakot tbh

the pact is decent but other pacts are better at doing it

[sterile pine]

the thing that garren is better at is specifically faction farming just because of the crazy low CD on stags

and its absurd reach

[azure basalt]

does anyone know why this is happening?

[sterile pine]

are you sure he doesn't have it in his smith?

and does he have the stag completed in journal

[hoary escarp]

probably because only host actually follows the quest, the rest party members are sort of "help"

[azure basalt]

the pact was received in the invetory, we do not have smith

[echo heron]

Bromius:

[sterile pine]

afaik bromius has less range and a longer CD?

[lusty vortex]

is river pearl currently bugged?

[plush void]

I need some help im stuck, Im on the torment stag, found the green dude, he's gone now and im trying to find a well, there wasn't one anywhere near him and the sparrow guide keeps taking me back to where he was i have found a well but its just got a broken bridge im so confused

[echo heron]

Nop

Fast cd

Prolly they'll nerf it idk

[lusty vortex]

no river pearl in whole day, not a single one.

[echo heron]

Play cogah, kill bosses

[tawdry yoke]

Heyo, where does Gathannan drop currently?

[hoary escarp]

i found a few today

they were by the water streams

[echo heron]

Range doesnt matter when you can one stomp everything

[lusty vortex]

where exactly?

[echo heron]

Nowhere as of now in prelude 12

Previous prelude drops

[meager pivot]

this isnt a gameplay question, but does preludes data transfer over to full release or nah, just will tell me exactly how much time i should spend on the game and balancing with other things

[echo heron]

If i lose everything

When release

I'd be pissed and ask for refund

[meager pivot]

has anyone confirmed if data transfers or nah? cuz in a way its fair enough if it does if we have been told obviously

and then i wouldnt spend too much time and just generally play the main storyline

[echo heron]

I cant answer that

[final rock]

they don't plan on doing another wipe

[meager pivot]

yeah thats what im seeing from some message digging in this server, apparently it will just be saved

[echo heron]

Best gathannan farm is from camel as for now

:')

[sly escarp]

No reset planned on launch

[tawdry yoke]

I was spamming alca tales, since I have to level it anyways, but I guess it can wait

[meager pivot]

does "planned" indicate that there is still a very small chance that there could be?

[vague widget]

what is this ritual it speaks off or is this the new thing and cogha runs out when all bosses are done?

[outer ice]

We have payments now so the Chance is like 0,000001

[sly escarp]

They have said if it is strictly necessary to solve a bug or issue, they will do a server wipe.

But have said they will do everything they can to avoid it

[brittle nacelle]

am I high or are 3 of those weapons it says I'm missing ones I already have? only last one looks like a silhouette of a weapon I don't see in my inv

[sly escarp]

UI bug

[meager pivot]

alright bet, thank you for your reply

[echo heron]

They better be

[final rock]

yeah atp they really can't

[echo heron]

Naito

[sly escarp]

Yes?

[echo heron]

Will there be trading system?

[sly escarp]

Believe trading is planned for the future, yes

[echo heron]

Hmwhmwhmhw

[final rock]

yet another reason why DE really shouldn't have made arcs purchasable and useful...

[echo heron]

Is there any pacts they're planning to nerf

[sly escarp]

At the very least Paragon copies will be giftable, so it's likely they would expand to a full trading system at that point.

[echo heron]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[sly escarp]

Who knows, they just nerfed Ode Tempest but nobody can see the future.

[echo heron]

Ouch

[outer ice]

It's alpha so all will be nerfed and buffed over the next months

[sly escarp]

Would say Tethren and Bromius would be next on the chopping block if so.

[final rock]

if I had to imagine Brom and Teth will prob be hit soon

[sly escarp]

Tethren's 1 in particular seems a bit overtuned

[final rock]

Broms 1 as well

[visual finch]

Is there an option to kick as the host

[echo heron]

Tethren is uuh

Idk i can dmg just fine with oceldra

More with tethren

But bromius...

Yeah yk how it goes

[rocky grove]

how do i make the compass appear

[echo heron]

Best you can do is leave as host

[final rock]

in settings theres an option to force compass to always be up

[echo heron]

I do hope they buff orengall and garren

[final rock]

Garren is fine tbh

[sly escarp]

Press G

[sly escarp]

Garren is more than fine rn

[echo heron]

A bit underwhelming imo

[sly escarp]

One of if not the best area control pact atm

[final rock]

solid sustain/single target elimination, stun works well, and the 3 does work

[echo heron]

Compared to uuuh

[sly escarp]

Build into a split Courage/Spirit setup and he just rocks

[echo heron]

That bear

Ight i'll give garren another chance

[final rock]

the bear being overtuned does not mean Rood is bad

[sly escarp]

Bromius is A tier atm. Garren is a solid high B

[echo heron]

It aint bad

[final rock]

I do not think we should be comparing things with Bromius for balance

[echo heron]

But the combo between bro and ocel is just plain broken

[final rock]

you dont need Ode nor Oscelda for Bromius

[echo heron]

Min max

[final rock]

the number is already high enough

[echo heron]

Yeah ik

[halcyon thicket]

For cogah you do

[echo heron]

Pretty high tbh

[halcyon thicket]

But not for regular overworld

[rugged otter]

bromius combos with bromius

[echo heron]

But buff orengall pls

[rugged otter]

the armour buffs stack with one another

[echo heron]

Ye

3 bromius in cogah

[limber sundial]

Quick question. I'm currently starting the game with the Oscelda pact and I've equipped a staff and what I think is another mage weapon as my secondary. Would I want or need to have a martial weapon on as a sidearm, or would caster weapons be fine?

[final rock]

need to give Orengall another try still

[halcyon thicket]

Max bromius stacks gives 4k, ode tempest + Oscelda got 18k

[rugged otter]

it's fine but I think it's nice to have a melee sidearm just because the magic weapons overlap in role

[echo heron]

It does fine but underperforming

[limber sundial]

Gotcha, thanks. Another question. How does one find or access the new event with the birds?

[rugged otter]

it's not out yet

[frigid spoke]

@crystal cliff World/dungeon bosses are not on same timer. Can kill one and pop a cogah and kill it again. Goes for the whole world except for sieges, the king, and possibly the collector event.

[echo heron]

3rd does nothing for me

[limber sundial]

Oh, derp. That'd do it lol.

[rugged otter]

don't worry lol, we're all waiting for it

i've already dressed my resident one-eyed weirdo avatar for the season

[limber sundial]

I was asking because I wasn't sure if there's some kind of esoteric way to find it. I'm still operating on the framework from...preludes 3 or something where you had to stumble across Tuvulkane I think. It's been a while, don't quite remember.

[rugged otter]

oh you had to stumble upon her ass from preludes 1 lmao

[echo heron]

Most of my bosses aint spawnin when i popped my cogah

[rugged otter]

I 100% get you, DE's been getting better about it but the new player experience isn't super high on the priority list

[outer ice]

Did you Do them in non cogah?

[echo heron]

Couple hours ago yes

[outer ice]

3h respawn

[frigid spoke]

Dunno, I do it everyday, 3hr timer for regular, 3 hr tiomer for cogah. I do not know if cogah respawns in one session, I'm not waiting around that long.

[limber sundial]

Yeah I'm not too stressed about the onboarding process, they'll sort it out in time.

[echo heron]

😭

Oh well

Prolly bad luck on my side

Just nimrod and waste available

[limber sundial]

Another question here. I am still figuring out the whole stat system in this game. I'm guessing Attunement is like Dark Souls weapon scaling?

[outer ice]

Luck is something you cant control

[echo heron]

Yes

[frigid spoke]

don't kill a boss n pop a cogah near where you killed it. Move away then go cogah

[rugged otter]

yup, with hidden stat caps. The more attribute icons, the higher the cap

[echo heron]

Granted i was far from any bosses

[rugged otter]

early on, no need to worry about it since you won't hit the cap

[limber sundial]

Don't quite know what two moons means, but they're green so I'm assuming I put points into the green stat and not red and blue.

[echo heron]

Spirit attune

[frigid spoke]

Ah, no clue why then, never happened to me.

[echo heron]

Ye

It happens

[meager bobcat]

means the scaling is better than a weapon with only one

best scaling (rn) is 3

[outer ice]

And you can reforged the attunement

[echo heron]

Ight so

What's the difference between pacts rarity

There's those ones with 1-3 stars

[limber sundial]

Gotcha, thanks. I'll just kinda bumble along and not stress it. Seems like I'm doing fine in fights anyways.

[outer ice]

More rep

[sly escarp]

All pacts are 3 stars, no?

[echo heron]

Haeuh

[ember depot]

anyone know if Shewolf snared is broken? none of the enemies is dropping the key in the dungeon

[echo heron]

Wldyn is 1

The ones you get from zenith is 1

[rugged otter]

the blueprints are 3 stars, but some of the pacts are fewer. It's a bit weird

[echo heron]

Avakot trader 2

Standings 3

[sly escarp]

Interesting. Rarity may just be there to prevent players from crafting until Tuvul is ranked up.

Or it may be a visual bug

[echo heron]

Hmm

[rugged otter]

but yeah, 1 star for the starters, 2 stars for the quest pacts, 3 stars for the rest

[echo heron]

I see

[sly escarp]

Might need to relog a few times

[echo heron]

So

Essentially, all pacts are equal despite all of its rarities?

[rugged otter]

balance wise, that's the intent, i reckon

[echo heron]

And it wont stack up any points unlike wyldns

[echo heron]

Ic

[ember depot]

a few times? it took forever to get through that dungeon

[outer ice]

Ask someone in chat to help you maybe

[meager bobcat]

thats because you need lvl 3 blacksmith to craft pacts/tier 3 weapons

its just so people dont bother rushing crafting a pact they got off the tutorial as soon as they spawn ig

[ember depot]

I got 2 cages opened now, are there more?

[echo heron]

1 more

[civic heath]

[nimble edge]

Greetings Envoys. My friend has returned to Soulframe after a break and can't remember which of the final Triune Talisman they need to complete the set.

Is there any way to tell? I cannot figure out which two he already has.

[drifting bough]

Hey everyone!
Does anyone know a good website that has some good builds?

[echo heron]

Try to play with each

[outer ice]

Youtube

[echo heron]

See which one where the butcher spawns

Since its according to time of the day

Dawn, dusk, and night

Play a game session with one of each talismans

[hollow dawn]

I just claimed my Twitch key for Soulframe. Is there a way to activate the beta on steam, or is this key only for the standalone launcher? 😄

[outer ice]

SoulFrame is standalone

[halcyon thicket]

standalone, go to soulframe.com, find the redeem page

[echo heron]

I think launcher as of now

And then you can slap it on steam

[hollow dawn]

im already downloading, but i found the page on steam. that made me thinking

Ty!

[nimble edge]

Ah, so there's no way to check which you've already collected. You just have to try three times and hope you pick the right one sooner rather later.

[echo heron]

Ye

[nimble edge]

That's disappointing. Thanks for confirming.

[civic heath]

Just do it in order and its fine

[limber sundial]

With this Oscelda pact, are the sparrows meant to be a distraction/cc tool more than a damage tool?

[civic heath]

Kinda

[echo heron]

Cc 1-2 enemies at a time

Increases stagger

[civic heath]

the sparrow ability damage is actually rng but the stagger is the same

you can fully stagger just about anything with 1 cast of it and no further hits

[echo heron]

Depends on where the sparrow hits

1-40 dmg

Then goes down

[civic heath]

Its got really bad armour pen tbh

[limber sundial]

And I'm going to want the ability bar to be full of the resources to cast these skills?

[echo heron]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-hitori-hitori-gotoh-birds-gif-27191434

[echo heron]

Just for stagger purposes

[civic heath]

Yeah but if you see water just stand in it

[echo heron]

Among all of the pacts oceldra has the highest recharge rate

[civic heath]

if you max out the water CD passive for that pact you get birds like every 2 seconds

[echo heron]

Even in cogah

[civic heath]

Yup

[echo heron]

And 1st abl

Make it count

[civic heath]

1st ability is a little rng too I feel like

[echo heron]

Its the broken one

[civic heath]

it seems to sometimes just not do anything

[echo heron]

Its not rng

Just cast, dont hit

Make sure to do one huge dmg instance

[civic heath]

I do

[echo heron]

2x the dmg

And yes 1st and 3rd abl doesnt sync well

[civic heath]

Its just sometimes It either gives me big damage but sometimes it dont

[echo heron]

That depends on where you hit

[civic heath]

No like I had times where I use it, hit the guy and it just does 1 damage

[echo heron]

Weakpoint mandatory

[limber sundial]

Think I ended up just realizing that this pact may be a CC/support spec moreso than a mage. Not a biggie, just a funny observation.

[echo heron]

Its a cc abl

You need a good weapon to follow up

[civic heath]

Sirin has 2 support ability's too

[civic heath]

My halberd can kill nimrod in like 5 hits

[storm owl]

is there anyone that might still have a code to get access to the game?

[echo heron]

Cc > hit with your wpn on weakspont

[civic heath]

Its the ability that has some stupid bug

[halcyon thicket]

watch a twitch stream

[civic heath]

Its the same with its slow and stone effect

[echo heron]

Just uuh

[storm owl]

i attempted earlier but it didn't work? something more specific i have to do?

[echo heron]

Dont hit the enemy with the ocel passive on

[civic heath]

sometimes it slows sometimes it stones sometimes they just break the ai and keep at flyblade orbit range forever never attack me

[echo heron]

If you hit it again with ocel 1st it'll get un cc'ed

[halcyon thicket]

make an account at soulframe.com, link your twitch account there, then watch a stream

[civic heath]

I barely get hit tbh

Ive not been hit while using ocel and melee for a while now tbh

[echo heron]

Its always stone to me

Never slows, prolly ya didnt hit em

[civic heath]

When I hit em they just take 1 damage and keep walking at me

[echo heron]

But ngl it has good aoe

[civic heath]

I need to hit the ground near them for it to slow / stun

[echo heron]

Out of its range

[civic heath]

im using melee

[echo heron]

Ye just hit the ground near

Same goes for 3rd

Always a guarantee hit

[civic heath]

Ive had the 3 hit the archer boss once and only 1 sparrow hit him before the ability stopped

so epic of it to do that honetly

[echo heron]

I see

I normally just 😌

Totally balanced pact

[civic heath]

Im just throwing my fork at their heads and watch them fall over taking 300-400 damage before I walk up to them and eat my meal

[echo heron]

Gathannan and purity does better for that job

[civic heath]

Hal-bird was the friends we made along the way

[visual finch]

Which is better atm for Longblades?? Mistgale or everflame

[echo heron]

Uuuuhhhh

Depends on rune slot

I think everflame

I meant totem slot

[civic heath]

Matters on totem yeah

[echo heron]

Or you can just run daggers

[civic heath]

We need armour arts honestly

[echo heron]

Turn midrath into birmingham

[woeful umbra]

what the best Joinery for the juniper bow

[civic heath]

Grey gold

[echo heron]

Either courage/spirit

Attune

Blessed by mora/iridis

[halcyon thicket]

quicksilver blessed by mora

[woeful umbra]

is that for grace?

[visual finch]

Shortblade + Invi rune?

[civic heath]

I wish we could attune the slots separately honestly

[echo heron]

Ye

[civic heath]

its a super secret joinery you cant get anymore

[echo heron]

Everyone in midrath is within shankin distance

[visual finch]

You runnin the sb as your primary? which one u using? haha

[echo heron]

Sb?

Oh i use it as sidearm

Witan/verdigris

But

[distant jungle]

Do we know if Odiac or Esthelle is better? I have a maxed Esthelle but not Odiac.

[echo heron]

If primary, royal tune is good asw

[distant jungle]

Same with Alder vs Erstroot.

[halcyon thicket]

ESthelle has slightly higher base damage

92 vs 88

[echo heron]

Esthelle as of now due to its recent buff

[halcyon thicket]

primary staffs are equal

(i think)

[distant jungle]

In base damage or in end damage?

[halcyon thicket]

base

[echo heron]

Base

[distant jungle]

Cus base damage can be screwed with via different scaling caps.

[halcyon thicket]

well both esthelle and odiac are 2 *

right

[echo heron]

Ye

Both will kill anyway so

[glad jay]

Where can u get courage joineries

[echo heron]

I... Dont know

[distant jungle]

Yeah I don't really use Magick but decided to keep one for collection sake.

[echo heron]

I just kill bosses

[soft saddle]

What is the max number of points you can get in a combat art?

[echo heron]

Head empty

[glad jay]

Mood

[distant jungle]

You can redeem them all from Kitch faction rewards or farm blesseds via bosses.

[sly escarp]

Kith of Kings faction shop and killing Bosses can both give Blessed by Mora joineries

[distant jungle]

Which drop any of them at random.

[sly escarp]

Depends on the weapon. 5 per maxed weapon of that type.

[halcyon thicket]

hell's kitch

[echo heron]

Hell's kitchen

[glad jay]

But what faction rank

[echo heron]

5

[distant jungle]

4 and 5 I think.

[sly escarp]

4 and 5

[glad jay]

Trash im.stoll like rank 2

Takes so much xp to rank

[echo heron]

Grind it

[halcyon thicket]

which weapon do u need the joinery for @glad jay

[echo heron]

Not so much exp to rank, so little gain to rank

[distant jungle]

Can be done in 5 days if you spam faction tales at high levels to hit daily cap every day.

[glad jay]

igne and odiac

[sly escarp]

Igne is already Courage

You just need a Polished

[echo heron]

30 plus bounties to reach daily cap

[distant jungle]

Yeah just slap a Polished on that.

[halcyon thicket]

feybalt should drop from vadagar stag

[glad jay]

Odiac mostly

[halcyon thicket]

farm stags at night

[glad jay]

I just fought him again lol no luck

[echo heron]

Stags has different drops sadly

*spawn

Different spawn points

[glad jay]

He ended up dropping a garren armor piece

[echo heron]

Rng where you meet em

[halcyon thicket]

use recruit chat to see whenever someone is sharing stag fights

[glad jay]

Oh ok

Ill try the polished for igne

[echo heron]

What if they made stag to hunt you every night

[glad jay]

I wish

[echo heron]

🗿

[glad jay]

Id find him easier

[echo heron]

Take it as a uuh

Acolyte drops