gameplay-discussion

[tulip pumice]

Same as normal notes

[civic heath]

Taa blurriness happens bc TAA basicly overlays old frames on top of new ones

[strange smelt]

Each row is a set number

[obsidian stirrup]

anyone else feel cast times for abilities is too long

[civic heath]

Taa IS THE PROBLEM

[shy lodge]

this kinda reminds me of elden ring

[uncut maple]

damn

[mystic isle]

Akin is basically required for all builds.

[civic heath]

Actually terrible option and all games should let you turn taa off

[late garden]

I mean, yeah, but that's just the engine doing the work half the time.

[smoky crater]

yeah but i literally just said they fixed that ._.
the blurriness is far from how it used to be

[meager bobcat]

where do you get these

[tulip pumice]

What you don't like getting murdered before you can do the magicky stuff?
Yeah me neither

[wicked anchor]

Yeah, even if you pay for Paragon pack, lmao
Like, I knew that I was probably going to get some quarter-baked cheeseburger that is FAR from a ready product
And yet people are hoping to not encounter bugs or get a AAA title access

[strange smelt]

I think it's exactly what they were going for

[civic heath]

It cant ever be fixed tbh

[sudden fjord]

honestly it all feels about right for a DE title tbh

[strange smelt]

Don't most casts stun enemies that recently damaged you?

[mystic isle]

I bought the pack to support DE.

[civic heath]

Lower fps the more noticable it is

[smoky crater]

nnno it's not

[tribal mantle]

so it is five right

[sudden fjord]

i think the only animation i noticed that's overly goofy is the ladder animations

[violet sand]

can somebody please tell me how to replay the brewer of hues quest i did it my friends world and didnt get the tree sap extracter'

[civic heath]

The ladder?

[tulip pumice]

When it works properly yeah

[strange smelt]

It sure looks and quacks a lot like elden ring/ESO

[smoky crater]

i didn't say fully fixed it
i said it's far better now than it used to be

[civic heath]

You mean the one you float 1m away from?

[sudden fjord]

yeah climbing up and sliding down ladders looks insanely silly

[steady linden]

No idea, man. Maybe in avakot.org you'll find something? Sorry no one is paying attention to your question lol

[wicked anchor]

Same
I still would like to be a part of history for this game, cos I honestly hope Soulframe will blow up once it releases

[civic heath]

The only fix is to remove it

[smoky crater]

bruh

[civic heath]

Taa actually does nothing graphiccly speaking

Just turn on motion blur instead

[sudden fjord]

but also Palworld is a game that released its 1.0 using generic UE animations so like, ive just come to accept "you get the idea" animations being industry standard nowadays

[late garden]

the character movement feels ripped right out of Warframe with very little adjustments. Jumping looks really goofy. It doesn't feel like they have "Soulframe" animations for the basic movement, it feels like they're temporarily using Warframe's. That's what I mean by "placeholder-y"

[wicked anchor]

Or turn on FSR?

[glad jay]

How do u get more fragments of garren armor

[strange smelt]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Grynnetongue

[smoky crater]

find and kill the Vadagar Stag overworld boss that spawns at night or at the end of 2 and 3 star faction tales

[civic heath]

Do you not know what TAA is?

Taa has nothing to do with graphics

[mystic isle]

This.

[civic heath]

It litterly just puts old frames over new ones to try hide sharp corners when the camera moves

[sudden fjord]

yeah i have no clue what this means tbh

[civic heath]

A lot of the animation and audio is from warframe but its not intended to be

[glad jay]

So after the quest it will spawn in the world

[civic heath]

Its just there now so they can test other things

[rain spade]

Why not?!? This is EXACTLY when you want to test combat to avoid issues down the line. This is basics to iron out in an ALPHA....

[smoky crater]

ye

[sudden fjord]

yeah i mean thats, thats kinda normal ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glad jay]

Awesome

[obtuse sundial]

Hi Envoys, what's the go to way to get precklies? just farm bosses in T3s + archers?

[smoky crater]

what animation and audio?

[late garden]

That's what I'm saying... they're probably placeholders

[civic heath]

We should all activily be trying to find the most creative ways to break not just combat but everything this game has to offer

[strange smelt]

Good point, i think it is literally the wf jump animation
But that means they're spending time on the good stuff
Pre-alpha, so "get it good enough"
Otherwise you get crap like star citizen

[sudden fjord]

no i mean like, none of the animations and sounds really feel inorganic

[torpid lotus]

I think people don't get that Alpha is for an unfinished prototype, pre alpha is "we're still figuring out how we want this to work for sure"

[civic heath]

Camel has helminth noise, sometimes you will hear warframe chatter from undead

[mystic isle]

I feel like enemies need at least some tell for a parry window.

[civic heath]

Some melee animations are straight up from warframe

[sudden fjord]

re-using assets from other titles or purposes aint that unusual, Square Enix uses a gun as a handle in ff14 lol

[smoky crater]

they... don't?

[civic heath]

Uhh, they do

Take off your stances

some melees have unique animations in warframe

[smoky crater]

i'd appreciate an example not an explanation ._.

[civic heath]

and some of those attacks are used on charged heavys

[strange smelt]

That's a really good way to phrase it

[sudden fjord]

once more i dont...really see a problem with that tbh

[wicked anchor]

Duviri-coded basically

[smoky crater]

duviri and soulframe had nothing to do with each other

[sudden fjord]

i think my gripes with combat right now has way more to do with the actual feel and impact not the fact the animations are upcycled off of warframe's

[mystic isle]

That’s basically what we’re playing lol

[tender isle]

Kith of Kings faction shop, dont farm for it

[sudden fjord]

i didnt even notice it until you pointed it out and i played warframe almost exclusively melee for a year or two straight well before stances were even a thing

[civic heath]

Long sword heavy attack, 2nd heavy attack from 1 handed swords in warframe
2nd and 3rd hit on basic attack on long sword is also from warframe basic 1 handed sword stance

[obtuse sundial]

aw dang, Im on a different faction, guess ill have to grind and switch ^^ thanks

[sterile pine]

Snip and prune and be our voice

[wicked anchor]

No, incorrect

[mystic isle]

Speaking of long swords, anyone notice that sometimes the second hit of the combo just doesnt connect??

[tender isle]

idk what are drop rates now but last preludes i farmed 2 hours for it

[rain spade]

Also... If there is a lack of tutorial/instructions for things in the game... Its because they are STILL trying to figure out what they want to put in the game and what they are going to take out/polish. The overall message is that this is the cooking/seasoning/baking part of the process. Lower the expectations till after this has been declared a beta...

[mystic isle]

Like you’re absolutely in range and it just swipes right through them?

[civic heath]

Hitboxes are messed up

[obtuse sundial]

well since I have to grind tales anyway to switch faction, i might get lucky during that time and get it as drop ^^

[smoky crater]

ok that's like... 3 things that might be the same or just look almost identical.

[civic heath]

Sometimes your block hitbox is infront of you and you get hit anyways

[glad jay]

Is oryn-umbr, sollos-I, or vasp-iv any good

[mystic isle]

Okay good it was kinda driving me nuts.

[civic heath]

3 things I could show you in less than 1 minute bc I have it equiped

[tender isle]

you probably will not, i never dropped it other than from pickpocketing

[strange smelt]

Was wondering why that looked so familiar, wow

[mystic isle]

Technically speaking most of the attune 1 weapons are eh, but you need them for mastery.

[obtuse sundial]

[tender isle]

but some people did drop it so you could be lucky

[glad jay]

I just want better to take on the bear

[cedar roost]

I don't think you understand that we as players are the QA in pre-alpha lol...

[smoky crater]

but you were originally speaking as if most animations and sounds were from Warframe .-:

[wicked anchor]

You are talking about AAA development for an already established product from the get-go. DE has a lot of experience with actively doing 180s when faced with feedback from the playerbase. They are doing a similar iterative designing here as well.

[civic heath]

Use daggers in warframe with all stances then watch soulframe shortsword offhand dagger combos

[mystic isle]

Pickpocket is going to need to go. I love it but Ivara’s passive is a going to be promote some terrible gameplay.

[civic heath]

A lot of the stuff for the player are yes

They are temporary anyways

And its fine if they are

[wicked anchor]

The only way for Sirin to properly sustain himself though...?

[civic heath]

Bc animating good combat is hard

[strange smelt]

re-using assets is a very good thing, since that means they aren't wasting our time and money by doubling work on uneeded junk to make actual good stuff

[civic heath]

Exactly

[smoky crater]

i understand that.

[tender isle]

its not even good, its used for some very specific things only

[civic heath]

They can focus on more important things while art team takes their time spinning fire in the booth

[mystic isle]

Yeah but watch as Sirin players demand you let then pickpocket every enemy.

[sudden fjord]

SF combat is kinda weird rn in that it seems like its in extremes of like

[meager bobcat]

I have never even heard of an ivara doing that lol

[sudden fjord]

enemies either knock players down and beat them like a dead horse

[mystic isle]

Because the loots not very scarce.

[civic heath]

Only thing I dont like is how the bows look when it comes to weapon design and appearance

[sudden fjord]

or enemies seemingly just sit there and watch you obliterate their friends

[weary arch]

Good day every one 🙂 anyone have a key ? please and thanks

[tender isle]

also pickpoket is not exactly extra loot, after pickpocketing you get no loot after killing

[edgy sigil]

realistically, there's a high chance DE will fall into the same "one button wipe" track that stealth would be negligible in coop when all enemies are already dead

[mystic isle]

It basically forces the loot table to be rolled for the enemy

[sudden fjord]

i noticed for some reason when playing on staff often a lot of enemies just stand there circling around you but never seem to try and actually attack...

[strange smelt]

that is so dumb what
they need to replace that node

[wicked anchor]

You still get the loot guaranteed

[strange smelt]

meant to reply to this woops

[cedar roost]

Is that confirmed? Wiki disagrees; https://wiki.avakot.org/Pickpocket

[tulip pumice]

Nah I've pickpocketed nothingness several times

[civic heath]

This

[sudden fjord]

it reminds me of DMC's anti-cheese mechanic where enemies lose their aggressive AI if they're off-camera but enemies in SF seem to do it just..always?

[tender isle]

so for some items it increases drop chance for others it only lets you to get loot without wasting time on killing them

[civic heath]

Bladed bows really annoy me in games

[edgy sigil]

they're shy around your staff uwu

[mystic isle]

Man you should see whst happens to me, I get utterly disrespected lmao

I get two or three people piling on me.

[late garden]

Bruh... "Give an example." gets 3 examples "Oh that's not enough examples."

[civic heath]

Not only is the bow bladed but cant melee with it, its also wide in the wrong direction that bows are wide in to allow good flex

[meager bobcat]

also, if I join someone for cogah kill a boss and leave do I still have cogah applied? saw someone mentioned that yesterday and I need to farm the bow rune

[civic heath]

Ive not seen a game do good bows that look realistic and pretty for a long time

[steady linden]

All of the Wyld weapons look a lil wacky tbf

[strange smelt]

Technically any bow that has a flat profile like that will never work
So every bow in every game ever
(bend to least resistance so your bow bends sideways)

[meager bobcat]

and I dont have the fr#nch "woman" levelled up

[sudden fjord]

Harrowing gives AOE damage so nowadays honestly everyone just kinda gets deleted after the first guy dies

[civic heath]

Pretty much

if it was a compound bow, forgiven

But its not a compound bow

[mystic isle]

Yeah, but harrowing is hard mode, which I don’t have. Yet, anyway.

[sudden fjord]

i think what the game really needs to bring its combat in is make it where the strongest """min-max""" builds aren't able to just, delete everything in seconds, but also some things need to be more responsive

[strange smelt]

I guess to be fair, we can't fire arrow rain either lol

[mystic isle]

Agreed.

[civic heath]

Your not gonna like this

[sudden fjord]

a lot of my friends who play melee say dodging grenades is impossible and i think thats purely because the sheer amount of animation lock on melee movesets is difficult to work with

[civic heath]

but... they made stuff for that

[cobalt wolf]

are there missions/quests to do in the Silent rose tavern place?

[mystic isle]

Giving me ff14 dragoon vibes with the animation lock lmao

[late garden]

So, reforging... am I the only one who finds it kinda dumb to have low-tier Joiners? If reforging is going to reset my weapon to level 0, why the hell would I EVER waste time on a Rusted Joiner?

[wicked anchor]

We can though?

[tulip pumice]

Naw you join them and random quests start spawning all over the map

[tender isle]

its not resetting anymore

[wicked anchor]

Or did I miss the sarcasm?

[sudden fjord]

God, best thing SE ever did was remove that

[strange smelt]

Only blessed resets to zero
Players gave that feedback and they fixed

[sudden fjord]

I really do miss 2.x/3.x but DRG anim locks were terrible

[strange smelt]

irl

[wicked anchor]

Oh, we can

[late garden]

ok, cool, I read about it resetting, and was like "the hell is this trash?" good change

[mystic isle]

It’s why greatswords kind of suck. They take far too long and animation lock you for too long.

[wicked anchor]

Just throw a quiver in the air

[civic heath]

Only blessed reset level

[cobalt wolf]

is it automatice the joining part or do i need to do a specific task/talk

[sudden fjord]

gonna be a broken record here but like, gw2, the dodge skill is smth you can do at all times so long as you have the endurance to dodge

[mystic isle]

Polearms are basically the right mix of range and attack speed.

[cursive veldt]

one thing I don't really like about combat atm is how many things require repeated or multi-key inputs, e.g. Soul Steal, dodgeroll

[strange smelt]

Teach me how so i can soul smite someone
Brb need to play my flute at some ducks first

[steady linden]

So what, do non-blessed stack or how do joineries meassure up against one another?

[sudden fjord]

it does not matter if you're doing the longest animation known to man or channeling magic or eating a burger if you hit the dodge key, you dodge.

[full hearth]

When the soul is exposed hold Q and then left click

[civic heath]

Roll and dodge function the same

[tender isle]

you can have 1 on one weapon

[meager bobcat]

breh

[cursive veldt]

not quite

[tulip pumice]

You need to have a specific talisman for each of the 3 enclaves to talk to their leader to join them, and you get a default one depending on your starting pact

[mystic isle]

I specifically keybind my dodge to a separate button.

[strange smelt]

irl

[civic heath]

You can start roll while in dodge i frame but you can also wait for dodge i frame to go away and then roll

[rain spade]

If they suck then you are DEFINATELY doing something very wrong. One of the best weapons in the game is a great sword. Maybe you need to farm an attack speed totem to change your mind.....

[stiff cliff]

I have serenaded animals, I have killed horned enemies, I have regretted my life choices and gathered more herbs than Frieren did before meeting Himmel and I'm still utterly lost about what this game is about

[civic heath]

You just have 2 roll charges basicly

[sudden fjord]

yet also, the most glass-cannon-y of glass cannon in gw2 still is hardlocked to not be able to melt bosses in seconds

[full hearth]

You're not an envoy irl, sorry to be the bearer of bad news

[strange smelt]

What if I find a dog in a cage in the woods and get zip-lined into space though

[steady linden]

They take a bit of finesse imo, you can't spam charged heavies at everything like a polearm

[tulip pumice]

Cuz most of the game doesn't exist yet

[mystic isle]

I would but I only have like +4% attack speed totems.

[cedar roost]

You are making assumptions about windups and things in general, there are very few attacks in the game that are un-reactable from my experience in the first place so I struggle to agree with you on a very basic level.

We are playing a game that's way earlier on in a development cycle than you'd normally ever get to see, I think making statements like this (Developers are bad for this etc., whatever you exactly said I'm not gonna quote you) is pretty damaging and if you don't like the state of the game simply... Don't play it right now.

[civic heath]

Only way to fix it is to stick some iron in y.....

[keen escarp]

are the same weapon?

[steady linden]

But their damage can get so good that lighting down trash mobs is doable

[tender isle]

about farming

[civic heath]

Put keeanu reeves in this game and call him Envoy Magic Hand

[edgy sigil]

yes. visual bug

[stiff cliff]

Where is my garden and my small town waifu ?

[civic heath]

Make it so he is a ghost only we can talk to and is in our head

[keen escarp]

ty ❤️

[tender isle]

i think you need to pay to have garden

[strange smelt]

That is a really fun emote

[tender isle]

you can farm weapons and armor tho

[stiff cliff]

At least the waifu is free

[strange smelt]

is this a reference to something

[sudden fjord]

p much every game Harvest Valley spawned tbh

[granite egret]

Can anyone tell me if my current progress will still be there when the game is officially released on Steam?

[stiff cliff]

Harvest Moon

[strange smelt]

Yes (mostly)
No mroe resets

[cedar rain]

harvest moon was a great "series" and im so surprised its being talked about here

[stiff cliff]

But really, how?

[tender isle]

by killing enemies mostly

[sudden fjord]

bosses mostly

[civic heath]

Not gonna belive me, but play the game

I know it sounds crazy

[sterile pine]

By doing an ecoterrorism on the bad guys

https://tenor.com/view/captain-planet-planet-captain-planet-and-the-planeteers-you-gif-1427223306998292645

[rain spade]

Hear me out... Just go to soulframe.com and download the game... Play it... Enjoy it...

[tender isle]

can people who didnt buy a pack visit garden?

[stiff cliff]

Random internet person I have played games
But this one is not clear at all

[rain spade]

XD

[civic heath]

Bc its pre alpha

[stiff cliff]

Lol

[sterile pine]

I mean to get items you really do just kill

[rain spade]

and pet animals

[civic heath]

If they add warframe mining to this game I will SOB

[tender isle]

not like mining is any good

[stiff cliff]

Not complaining just asking

[civic heath]

Fishing on the other hand.....

[sudden fjord]

to give a straight forward answer, there is a circuit of bosses that spawn around the open world, kill them to earn designs

[steady linden]

Or well, fragments of designs

[tender isle]

some weapons have different sources, if you want you can look on wiki

[civic heath]

If you could catch fish for affects like 1 in 50 chance to ignite enemy
and have a 2nd layer of the wheel you unlock only after reaching lvl 30 with a weapon

[sudden fjord]

this map is mildly outdated due to the addition of towers/walls but here is the location of said bosses if you just wanna know where they are

[civic heath]

Now that would be cool

[civic heath]

Evil fake island

[steady linden]

Though really there shouldn't be anything you can't find on your own

[stiff cliff]

I assume they dont adapt to my level, do they ?

[sterile pine]

The island is a myth the island is a myth the island is a myth

[civic heath]

Yeah this game is really straight forward tbh

[sterile pine]

https://tenor.com/view/gifmiah-gif-19835012

[civic heath]

Want to see the world tree on it?

[sudden fjord]

nope, but a decent amount are actually kinda low leveled

[grand chasm]

Any idea how I can find the forgotten memories or w/e? I've scoured this village from top to bottom and have only 3 of 5. Are they in a specific order, time of day, or something else?

[tender isle]

your level is not important, you can kill anything with lvl1 weapon while being mr1

[sterile pine]

It matters a bit here since you are squishy without some levels on your bones

[sudden fjord]

thats...

[rain spade]

Word salad that proves nothing..... XD

[sudden fjord]

yeah like thats just blatantly false lol

[zenith gale]

I wish they'd fix bug with founders wyld pacts. Really annoying lol

[sudden fjord]

a level 1 newbie is not going to have the same stats as someone who's level 12

[tender isle]

i am not saying they will

[short roost]

I've encountered an ingame bug where my character is stuck and unable to move, where can I report this also is there a way do get un-stuck? 😅

[stiff cliff]

Thats me 💪

[tender isle]

stacking some def with totems and getting some decent weapon is not hard tho

[sudden fjord]

its not but without stats ur prob are still going to have greyed out health bars

[tender isle]

with some weapons you will

[stiff cliff]

Sounds good , how can I do this ?
I have some totems but haven't crafted or leveled anything yet

I would like to build towards the mage siddle weapons

The thunder one

[languid flower]

hey guys,
in order to get more damage, what can you do ? i got the bow from founder s but what else should i focus on ?

[tender isle]

mage weapon is good on any level, just level blacksmith to unlock joineries

and slap one on your weapon

[gentle violet]

I did like a dungeon of sort thing for my first totem
there were vine covered doors in the map
what did they do?

[meager bobcat]

alright wheres this fr#nchie hiding I need my cogah

[tulip pumice]

No mean no bro

[gentle violet]

I thought they were some sort of teleport to entrance thing so that u can exit the dungeon early thing so didn't touched them

[stiff cliff]

How do I level up the blacksmith and how do I get the weapons? I think i do have something for joineries

[rain spade]

Then before making uninformed comments.... Farm some totems, especially defense totems, and keep trying at beating the bosses... Do your homework/testing with PROVEN methods that work..

[tender isle]

get Feybalt of any rarity, even with rusted you will be fine

[tender isle]

build more weapons

and starting staff is pretty good, the only 3* staff is from the pack so for free you will have to use 2* one

[meager bobcat]

gotta bring em by the hair if I have to I require my potions

[cedar roost]

Listing off a few examples of un-reactable attacks doesn't all of a sudden change my argument that there are only a few. It's possible those are missed and simply low priority. There's literally no punishment for dying right now until you Cogah so why you went so far as to call the developers things instead of just saying "this should be changed" is where I think your argument loses merit.

If you want to talk about difficulty arguments in this game, the first and foremost problem they have is limited access to healing. A new player isn't gonna care about reactable attacks or not, because they're not going to recognize attack tells starting out anyway. A way bigger problem is that you literally can't even learn patterns in a fight because of the way the game doesn't properly give you access to the right tools to learn in the first place. This is only offset by the complete lack of punishment for death.

[scenic peak]

Hi there fellow envoys, so quick question I just started the game, I'm at the point where I unlock the rose bounties, but I do not have a main quest anymore so I'm just wandering aimelessly. Did I miss something or is this the current state of the game ?

[meager bobcat]

last quest ingame is bear/wolf

[sudden fjord]

Can you cut this dumb bit out its not funny.

[tender isle]

or is pack staff even better than free one

[sudden fjord]

Estroot is currently the best staff in the game

[scenic peak]

didn't have anything to do with that for now, is it possible the game glitched and it did not follow up on main quest ?

[sudden fjord]

the starting newbie staff is good enough though

[meager bobcat]

check fi u have any yellow circles on your map

[tender isle]

so Alder has same stats?

surely its not worse

[sudden fjord]

Alder is seemingly bugged rn and actually scales the worst rn

[scenic peak]

nope nothing and nothing in the journal as well

[tender isle]

kekw, i see

[sudden fjord]

i collected every magic wepaon in the game and it does worse damage than every other staff in teh game, even the newbie one

[cedar roost]

To the point that if they haven't bothered addressing that healing elephant in the room, I think they are not remotely at a point where they should be spending mass amounts of time on some unreactable attacks

[tender isle]

voltaic is not good damage type

most of enemies i tested are resistant to it

[sudden fjord]

nah its definitely just a bug

Odiac and the other gloves do more damage than Alder

[tender isle]

oh even odiac does, this is probably a bug then

[sudden fjord]

I imagine Alder is supposed to be comparable to Estroot much in the same way how Starling is about the same strength as Juniper

iirc Starling has only like, a few extra points of damage over Juniper

[rain spade]

More word salad.... The issues you are referring to are known to the devs. They will get patched and fixed. The main issue is people need to learn the combat system, apply proper buffs, and defenses. The attacks you are referring to are avoidable if you know how to DODGE correctly, as well as anticipate your enemies move sets. Most of the enemies have visual/audio cues to inform you when they are going to do a heavy attack... LEARN THEM.. Oh and to close this out.... THIS IS STILL AN ALPHA.... Certain things take priority over others.. Patience....

[sudden fjord]

but then you compare Estroot to Alder and Alder does nearly half the damage lol

[sly escarp]

Keep in mind the Wyld Pacts are also bugged and nerf your Virtues into the ground when you smite

And also Paragon scaling seems to be...not quite right, possibly also bugged

[sudden fjord]

good to know, albeit i was using base pact versions just cause i think the wyld pacts are ugly

[meager bobcat]

as in its weak or its strong

[tender isle]

imagine paying for the weapon and its bugged to be trash lmao

[sly escarp]

Very very underwhelming scaling

[sudden fjord]

can i admit something awful?

like truly terrible, y'all will think less of me for this

i only bought paragon cause i wanted black dye 😬

[cursive veldt]

no that's valid
fashionframe is true endgame

[sly escarp]

True black op op

[tulip pumice]

I, too, have bought Paragon to get the colour palettes NOW

[sly escarp]

And it has the best purple too

[edgy sigil]

$100 fashion sounds like a deal to me

[tender isle]

i understand some people care about this stuff so there is nothing awful there

[sudden fjord]

i didnt rly care for anything else i just saw black dye and figured its enough arcs and moonthreads to never buy anything for this game ever again

[sudden fjord]

i mean sure but for 100 dollars i can order high quality fashion stuff straight out of Japan or Cali

[cursive veldt]

@rain spade 👎 to you too, buddy

[tender isle]

pretty sure some people still bought the pack for the weapon

are all of them bugged or only paragon and staff?

[rain spade]

Lets focus on getting gameplay mechanics to a workable level, and not focus on fashion....

[sudden fjord]

....meh?

cosmetics are a big part of games to me

[tulip pumice]

I can't play the game if I can't fashion

[rain spade]

Sure but if the game basics are broken...

[silver coyote]

hey guys, im in a dungeon, but i dont know which one it is. how do i find out? i remember entering it from some mines

[civic heath]

Dropping your settings to low and skyrimming shows off the one place we can all safely say we did 0 crime in

[static fox]

@nnn1111 bought the pack to support DE...sure as hell didn't pay $100 for a single item in the pack.

[wide steppe]

What is the point of feybalt I don't really get it

[tender isle]

i didnt buy the pack

[tulip pumice]

Consecutive damage buff that stacks

[wide steppe]

it stacks??

[tender isle]

i was thinking of getting spirit one but armor and weapons are kinda meh

[sudden fjord]

personally what really makes or breaks a game for me is what degree of character customization you get

[tulip pumice]

Yeah to a point, slap some attack speed and you be gattlin'

[cursive veldt]

if game basics are broken, i can still have fun dressing up as a fey warrior princess 🔥

[civic heath]

They are mostly for looks

[sudden fjord]

you could make the most amazing game in the world but if you hardlock my character to just be John Final Fantasy I will not bother playing it

[civic heath]

Its the pacts that are really good to ahve

[static fox]

Yea I went with spirit, I got used to it...then transmogged it anyway...not regretting spirit at all though.

[royal heart]

is there any unique drops from agari? havent seen them

[wide steppe]

To what end? Does each attack increase damage?

[sudden fjord]

like a lot of my friends tell me witcher 3 is amazing but its like, ok but i dont want to play as John Witcher

Being John Witcher does not interest me

[tender isle]

like 5 stacks i think

[wide steppe]

Okay John Human, whatever you say...

[snow lance]

when do you unlock the fey garden? idk where to look...

[tulip pumice]

I haven't really logged the differences, but with the founder magic sidearm, I get from grey HP to ~140 dmg per hit on some of the Cogah Agari

[wide steppe]

That is very nice if true

[peak token]

How do I download the game and try it out?

[sudden fjord]

my favorite game lets me play as a spider-mutant that lost 2 arms

[tender isle]

it is true obviously

but its reset if you are stunned

[sudden fjord]

idk if u get what i mean

[wide steppe]

Buddy you said yourself you're not sure

[cursive veldt]

for some reason this reminded me of Eclipse Phase, which would honestly kick ass as a videogame

[devout vapor]

When in nightfold go to emoes tab and sing. I think that is what you mean

[sudden fjord]

Caves of Qud if you were wondering

[tender isle]

i am not sure about how many stacks exactly, could be 6

its still good damage

[sudden fjord]

rogue-like where you get to build a mutant or cyborg

and the combat gets absurd

[tender isle]

the best is probably odiac with attack speed because it have more base attack speed

and some melee primary

[quick crest]

awesome game

[sudden fjord]

i entered a duel wiht a psychic hunter who was able to slow down time and hold up a force field around himself 24/7 and i only beat him after channeling my raw ego into my hammer, slowing down time myself, and using the split second it took for him to turn his force field back up to smash him into a mountain side, he still wasnt dead even after that.

[tender isle]

unless you like to throw your secondary

[sudden fjord]

that fight was 100% unscripted and just kinda happened

[cursive veldt]

bug spotted! 🐞

[wide steppe]

Just want to confirm that each individual hit does increase damage

[tender isle]

yes

[wide steppe]

Ok

[quick crest]

i am one of many present in the treacherous lands that we call pre-alpha soulframe

[tender isle]

it doubles base damage

you do need to hit 5 or so times tho

[civic heath]

Quick turn in to a wolf and clip out of bounds

[tender isle]

and its reset very quickly

[wide steppe]

Not a problem

[snow lance]

thank you!

[quick crest]

anyone know why forts just siege themselves for fun sometimes

[cursive veldt]

that's more of a frog behavior

[tender isle]

it is a problem with blocking enemies

[quick crest]

like ill be running towards it to siege it and oh no the balloon is burning down

[tender isle]

because they just keep blocking if you spam them

[wide steppe]

No enemy can block me

[tender isle]

you need to stop attacking for them to stop blocking

[wild field]

how i stop slow walkn?

[tender isle]

and your stacks are reset

[wide steppe]

I'm the master archmage

[tulip pumice]

Have you done it sometime prior? It's on a timer I believe

[tender isle]

it works on heavy attack too, but its pretty slow to charge

i do it on annoying enemies that block all the time

[ionic garden]

Needing a little assistance, I just beat nimrod and am now doing the waste bear quest. It told me to drip the sap into the witch’s cauldron (which I did) and I got the cutscene, but after the interaction finished it still didn’t give me the next quest step. Anyone know what I need to do?

[rain marten]

Does combat arts parallels with the weapon xp? I am currently stuck at 10 for greatsword. WHat can i do to increase it?

[quick crest]

about 2 hours ago yeah, may be 3 hour timer

[tender isle]

5 per weapon

[cursive veldt]

build and level more great swords

[sly escarp]

Level more unique great swords. You get 5 per weapon of that type maxed

[rain marten]

thanks everyone. since there are only 3, so i can get max 15 as of prelude 12

[cursive veldt]

yup

[tender isle]

ye

[rain marten]

thanks

[tender isle]

they will be scrapping this system anyway so dont worry too much about it

[dull gust]

does sidearm attack speed buffs etc affect main weapon?

[quick crest]

👽

[tender isle]

no its local

[dull gust]

the defense buffs seem to be active whether you have it equipped or not

[tender isle]

ye defense is

[civic heath]

Go to the north woods

[dull gust]

oh okay

[tender isle]

because its not weapon buff

[wide steppe]

Btw does your rune use your current damage or the weapons base only?

[tender isle]

i think current, not sure

[quick crest]

am i stupid?

[civic heath]

There is a bit in the forest with a purple aura around an area

[quick crest]

is this some sort of ephemeral crypt key that i cant use

[tender isle]

magic weapon rune not that good anyway

[civic heath]

LMAO

No crypt key

[tender isle]

enemy is mostly dead when it procs

[paper sierra]

How can i change my appearance? Or can i delete my char?

[quick crest]

game is just lying to me 💔

[wide steppe]

Ima let bro be wrong tbh

[civic heath]

Clearly

Just turn the game off and on

Dont re log, re log only fixes connection issues

Hard reset fixes any memory or driver based bugs that are caused from pile up

[paper sierra]

Is it possible dto delete my char?

[tender isle]

no

you can make second account if you have second code

you can also redo starting tale to change your appearance from what i heared

[peak token]

just wasted 50 gb on my pc downloading this game cant even play it, garbage

[dull gust]

is +5 attack from cogah talismans worth it compared to +3+3+3 talismans?

[tender isle]

its 10gb what do you mean

[quick crest]

considering we are all playing it i think it could be an issue on your side

[paper sierra]

I need to...I accidently clicked on a skin color...not knowing what i do...now i have the darkest skin and the lightest hair...looks fkd up

[civic heath]

How so?

[full hearth]

Replay Warsongs from your Journal

[tender isle]

depends if you care about buffing your pacts

[tulip pumice]

You can replay the Warsong in the journal to reset that

[tender isle]

and if you have your damage scaling on your weapon capped

[dull gust]

+5 seems so tiny compared to any other buff the game gives you lol

[tender isle]

i dont use pact damage so damage is damage for weapons

[paper sierra]

Thx...can i do this always?

[civic heath]

Smaller numbers hit harder tbh

[full hearth]

Yes

[tender isle]

if you use pacts a lot having more stats for them is also good

[civic heath]

If you know you have 10 health taking 3 damage is gonna affect you a lot more than knowing you have 10k hp and you took 3000 damage

[paper sierra]

Think i have to finish it once?

[full hearth]

Warsongs should just be the customization of ||your mother and by extent you|| and that's it

If you don't see a Replay Fable option you're probably among those that currently can't. You can try advancing some other Fables and checking again.

Rest assured you can customize your character again at some point

[paper sierra]

Thx

[full hearth]

You're not stuck with your current choices forever - Even if you can't get Warsongs to replay yet.

[paper sierra]

Thx

[woeful fable]

how far in do i have to be to invite to party? or are we missing a setting with the "this mission is being played offline" message?

[meager bobcat]

dont do story quests while on party.

[stuck lintel]

have they said anythin bout the hair resetting bug yet or naw

[full hearth]

Generally you can be invited at any point in the game, Fables are a bit fragile so i'd recommend doing those in Solo.

[tender isle]

story quests in coop are very bugged atm, you will most likely be stuck and will not be able to progress

[thorn cosmos]

how do I swap to my sidearm, i took tethren class and now got nettle, how do I use it

[full hearth]

R by default

[woeful fable]

ait thanks!

[thorn cosmos]

what is endless?

[tender isle]

glades room where zombies spawn endlessly

until everyone in your party dies at least

[thorn cosmos]

guess u get good xp there?

[tender isle]

ye very good

[tulip pumice]

It seems to be bugged and won't stop spawning atm
At least not on returning to Nightfold, not sure about dying because I don't like dying

[full hearth]

A bit less so with the XP distribution changes, but still good if you know what to do.

[thorn cosmos]

and how long into the game until u unlock it?

[tender isle]

idk, you can probably go there from the start

i dont think glades have unlock requirement

[graceful comet]

whats this glowing thing?

just got the rat girl today

[full hearth]

Warframe rules, basically.

Smiting is considered an ability kill now instead of a generic kill > Smiting a Mockery causes all of the XP to be funneled towards your Pact.

If you want to level weapons you will want someone else to do the Smiting.

[late garden]

Loadouts need some serious work

doesn't carry over your Virtue points... seems like an oversight.

[tulip pumice]

Void fissure?!?!

[tender isle]

its probably bear tale location

you can go there during the bear tale

[graceful comet]

im on the bear quest now

[novel river]

Would you say Soulframe is more controller friendly than Warframe?

[graceful comet]

idk if i can even beat this thing

[tender isle]

finish it and you can go there

[graceful comet]

and a ghost keeps showin up and attacking me and i cant beat him

[tender isle]

the crypt one?

[meager bobcat]

circade?

[graceful comet]

yea

[meager bobcat]

youre wearing the boss "AMBUSH ME" necklace.

[graceful comet]

i have all 3 parts of the necklace

[tender isle]

surely he is not that hard

[graceful comet]

should i remove it?

[tender isle]

if you want you can

[thorn cosmos]

is midrath the only map available?

[graceful comet]

i cant beat him so he is hard for me

[meager bobcat]

you have to kill the boss 3 times 1 with all necklace parts for the full thing

[violet sand]

i have like two programmble keys in my controller. can someone say how do i remap em to actually put to use

[tender isle]

ye

[graceful comet]

i will need help for that lol oooof

[thorn cosmos]

is it bigger then it seems?

[tender isle]

idk what you mean, its not that big

[late garden]

gotta wait for Inrath and Outrath.

and Overthererath

[thorn cosmos]

what is that, will it come after beta?

[violet sand]

i felt that

[graceful comet]

if i start fighting this bear am i stuck till i beat it?

[tender isle]

they are joking, there will be more islands later tho

[mellow cradle]

I've gone back to Neath'uns a few times now, but I just haven't been able to find the boss again. Is there something I'm overlooking, or does he not spawn in after the quest? How do I get the seeds for fast travel after the first one?

[tender isle]

small tree near dye woman

[tulip pumice]

You get a potted plant at Verminia's that you can harvest seeds daily

[graceful comet]

i cant see or find any ways to fast travel

[half perch]

Soo why is it no matter what I do my character looks like a chick? Im assuming it has something with art design but wow

[late garden]

Would prefer more landmass and biome diversity over just islands, but I can see that might become an engine/performance limiter.

[mellow cradle]

Oooooooooh! Thanks!

[tender isle]

they could add some bigger island idk

[late garden]

That or just tack shit onto Midrath and make it a continent.

That's what I'd rather they do, tbh

[tender isle]

didnt they say they will be adding more islands?

[thorn cosmos]

im lvl 15, how do I unlock fast travel?

[glass garnet]

I mean to a point I kinda get it also, a single island with more then like 2 biomes just doesn't really exist

[meager bobcat]

is there a list of which bosses drop the cogha runes?

[late garden]

They do exist, they're called "continents"

[glass garnet]

Do the waste bear quest and you'll unlock this tree in vermina which has seeds, those can let you fast travel

[tender isle]

level is not important, you need to do the tale

[late garden]

That's what I'm saying, I'd rather they do seamless world, than just Island 1, Island 2, 3, etc and so forth

[glass garnet]

Yes but this isn't light no fire, we aren't getting a single continent sized map

[thorn cosmos]

okay, so just do the main story, mine now is called something about uncover ruins of old"

[late garden]

And I think that's a mistake.

[thorn cosmos]

like listen for rats squez

[glass garnet]

I'd prefer not to have a map the size of america

Or any continent for that matter

[late garden]

Ok, we have the partitioned map stuff in Warframe, like, DE has the opportunity to do something different, here. Seamless maps are much better for immersion. I disagree with your opinion.

[tender isle]

with tp its not that bad

[late garden]

And we're getting a mount eventually

[odd canopy]

Are there any changes planned for faction XP numbers? Looking at current XP/T3 ... i'll need a month to get from lvl 3 to lvl 5

[junior kestrel]

are t3 tales in the far north the best way to level pacts that isn't endless?

[waxen haven]

Pretty much, yeah

[meager bobcat]

breh guy dms me for cogha saying im nowhere near good enough to run it and then says they only accept people who can carry them because they cant do it

[tender isle]

you can farm zombies in crypt entrance

[waxen haven]

Unless a glade one torpedoes your map position

[tender isle]

tales dont give much xp

[waxen haven]

All my homies hate glade exits

[glass garnet]

I'm not saying seamless maps are bad, I just don't want a map the size of a continent, simply too big, too much to fill with interesting stuff, not to mention it's a live service game, you can't keep adding more and more and more and more to a single map

[tender isle]

no one saying there will be single continent

[glass garnet]

If it were a single player game I'd be all for it

[late garden]

Have you never heard of MMOs in your whole life? the hell??

[tender isle]

they can just make 1 big one

[meager bobcat]

thats a lie, kill the justice league added a single random square of ice in a corner of the map for its last season

Peak map design

[glass garnet]

I've played warframe, this and like...a little bit of ESO

I don't care much for MMOs

[torpid lotus]

Hey for a greatsword, d'yall think the 10% speed totem is worth it? or would I be better off with additional stagger or armor bypass on heavy attacks?

[late garden]

Continent is as big or small as you want it to be in a game, too. Like look at the Elden Ring's map, that's a continent, seems fine for size, would play a multiplayer game in it (in fact Seamless co-op is THE most popular mod for that game).

[tender isle]

its more about what you like more

[rugged bramble]

Guys, i need some help. If i buy wyld tethren pack, can i start playing the game without wait for twitch codes ?

[tender isle]

there is probably no big difference in damage

[tulip pumice]

Yes founder packs come with access

[tender isle]

more attack speed feels good

[rugged bramble]

Tyy

[torpid lotus]

Probably the most important part, just 10% always feels neglible in my brain

[tender isle]

10% is pretty fine

10% increase in dps

[torpid lotus]

I'm too used to warframe and getting used to slower more deliberate combat, it's... different

[tender isle]

how much is even armor bypass on great sword

[torpid lotus]

Reminds me of a much more forgiving elden ring

[torpid lotus]

27

and only on heavy attacks

[tender isle]

27 is probably less than 10%

[torpid lotus]

so maybe situational on higher end enemies

[dusk lintel]

hi guys! Does anybody have a spare key? 🙂

[junior kestrel]

do these zombies respawn or something? i've never actually done crypt before

[tender isle]

you dont need to do it, they spawn at the entrance

you relogin and they respawn

or sometimes dont respawn

[junior kestrel]

so i jump down the sarcophagus, right?

[tender isle]

no

they spawn near it

[junior kestrel]

ah gotcha

thanks

[late garden]

I thought we weren't allowed to ask that

[glad jay]

OK im confused on something. I joined the kith of kings but supposedly I need to have some totem but idk where it is

[tender isle]

you should have enough damage on any enemy to overwhelm armor on great sword

[torpid lotus]

Tell you what though the thief doing 35% of my damage to nearby enemy totem has reduced my problem of getting mobed, especially if I can get a rune activation (leveled up my Everflame to 100% extra damage)

[tender isle]

i would use armor pen on something like daggers

[torpid lotus]

Well into the crypt

[late garden]

You remember where you get Everflame? I need it for Polearm, I have it for Longsword, Greatsword and Shield apparently from somewhere, couldn't tell you where I got them from.

[junior kestrel]

last question, which crypt entrance do the zombies spawn at? i went to the northern one and didn't see any that time

[torpid lotus]

Polearm is from Kabocha, the dude near the bear quest

[tall hatch]

hello to all guys, gathannan still drops from chest in the glades?

[junior kestrel]

no gathannan drops from t2 t3 alca bounties

[tender isle]

if you played last preludes they gave you new runes based on what you had

[late garden]

awesome, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

[tender isle]

if you had melee rune on shield they gave you shield one and so on

[late garden]

I did not, only just got access via the Founder's Pack.

[tender isle]

oh you just dropped it then

[tall hatch]

only the faction so? older videos says it drops from the glades blue flower chests? but if they changed it and can confirm, i will thank you a lot

[tender isle]

wiki says everflame is from the king and siege bosses

[late garden]

This feels like one of those games you play with a farming guide open in another tab, but because shit changes so much between preludes, none of the guides seem accurate. lmao

[tender isle]

wiki is accurate

[torpid lotus]

Everflame for longsword, and greatsword drop differently, then the polearm isn't called everflame but it's everflame (same flaming damage

[wicked anchor]

Oh, we have green text instead of red text

[torpid lotus]

Torcheternal is the polearm

[tender isle]

oh there are 2 everflame, thats weird

[tall hatch]

damn then, thank you anyway

[torpid lotus]

They'll get a unique name soon also

[late garden]

What's the thing for Magick? I still need a rune for my Magick wrist bolter things

[junior kestrel]

if it helps any, i got both fragments after ~15 tales

[torpid lotus]

So while yes you were right, DE also made you wrong

[tender isle]

well the second one drops from knell

[torpid lotus]

That drops from the undead in the swamp in the south

[late garden]

uh, the Medicent King or w.e his name is, or just undead mobs?

[late garden]

oh the wizard dude

[torpid lotus]

No it's a different dude, took me like 12 runs to get the magic rune

Yeah floating undead wizard dude

[late garden]

ok, cool, I've done him 3-4 times so far.

I'll keep farming him then

[tender isle]

oh new mage rune drops from cogah mage, he is kinda tough

[wicked anchor]

Someone in chat didn't get the rune after 33 runs

[hollow lotus]

Hotfix inbound

[late garden]

that's... oh man... just pain

[languid falcon]

How long before they post notes?

[torpid lotus]

Random rolls feel bad

[sly escarp]

Oh is there a patch?

[tender isle]

does someone know what ode 3 does now?

[languid falcon]

YEp, hotfix coming in, in 1 min

[wicked anchor]

Something about a lot of small fixes and inventory

[late garden]

some nice stuff in there, grenade spam got nerfed

[graceful comet]

not good ... i need that polearm from getting all the trees oooof

[torpid lotus]

There's a polearm for that? News to me

[graceful comet]

how it looks

[shy anvil]

GUYS THE GRENADES HAVE BEING NERFED LETS FK GOO

[graceful comet]

heard it doese eavy dmg

[torpid lotus]

Oh, I thought you got fragments for that from nimrod

[graceful comet]

heavy

[keen jacinth]

no changes to weapon leveling though

[shy anvil]

They were abusing hahaha

[silk pine]

Hey everyone, I'm here to ask, how many main missions are there? I'm referring to the daily missions because I've already completed all the missions that have appeared. In the first one, I unlocked the Deer faction and class, in the second, the Wolf class, and in the third, the Bear class

[graceful comet]

does this bear fight i was about to do lockyou into the fight or not?

if it does then imma need help witht he fight

[glacial current]

good fix de, thanks

[lone knot]

it took me 7-8 tries. i was base lvl 3 or 4

[graceful comet]

im level 27 now i think

[lone knot]

i mean the lvl in top left of aresenal

[graceful comet]

but if the fight locks you in and dont let ya leave till its done then i thinnk i will need help

[warm yoke]

someone give us a hand xD brain aint braining

[junior kestrel]

do zombies spawn at every crypt entrance?

[tender isle]

can you even help someone with it? i heared only people who haven't done the tale can help

[velvet stream]

"Increased Damage of Esthelle." I'm already one or two bites..

[graceful comet]

no one will tell me that though so im not botherin till i know for sure

[tender isle]

just beat him he is not that hard, he was heavily nerfed

[royal heart]

greatsword hitbox buff when

[graceful comet]

just need to know if the fight locks you in or not, but as of now i am not botherin to do the fight, NOT getting locked into fights anymore in games lol dont end well for me ... oh well then

[tender isle]

i think you can leave somehow

[ionic garden]

Hold your spectral sight button while standing at the back of the room. There will be spirit stag heads on the wall paintings facing different directions with a strand attaching each image to a statue. You then just align the statues with the pictures they correspond to

[minor cave]

Anyone have any good builds for armor stats because I'm still trying to get a good build.

[stiff cliff]

So I was dungeoneering when the update kicked me out

Now I'm back in the general map - did i loose all my progress ?

[obsidian stirrup]

nerfing the grenade damage doesnt help if they now throw 3 at a time now and there are 4 or 5 of the same npc. I just got owned by 7 npcs all with grenades

[trim oriole]

are you in a group?

enemies throwing multiple grenades for non hosts have been a bug for a while

[midnight chasm]

anyone know where i an get a prelude 12 boss map?

well mini boss map?

[knotty moon]

Avakot.org

[brave wing]

Question about parries. If I have a staff, can I only parry if I have the perk active? With a staff I can only parry magic? What about a bow or a sword, what those can parry?

[thorn cosmos]

do like gear have an "mastery points trait" like in warframe, is it worth to craft ecery gear an lvl it?

like helmet and trousers also?

[velvet juniper]

Are cogah bosses on separate timers from their normal versions?

[paper sierra]

Can I use all weapon types?

[obsidian ivy]

Hello, I played a lot earlier and came back after the recent patches with the factions and stuff... I completely forgot where I was going or doing or what my goals were. Is there any easy way to figure out what stage I'm at or what I should be doing

[knotty moon]

I like the siege grapple new transition, feels a lot smoother.
Now if only the zipline animation wasn't static...

[knotty moon]

Check the Journal for active Fables, if any.
Or check the Fables tab to see what you have already completed.

[iron crystal]

what gives here why is it not showing up

same thing with those brew things from the french chick

[knotty moon]

Are you using a Greatsword?
That is a Greatsword rune.

[iron crystal]

oh is it wierd a buddy of mine is using it on a long blade i couldve swordd

sworn

[wide atlas]

Does anyone know how to brew cogah I have 34 agaric and 10 sap but it’s not even an option when I go to Verminia

[tender isle]

long blade one has same name

[iron crystal]

rip

[gusty sky]

get her to level 2

[knotty moon]

For some reason...

[velvet juniper]

Is Vermina rank 1? She has to be rank 2

[thorn cosmos]

is anything worth to buy for arcs?

[timid vigil]

i got everflame, but i can only put it on my greatsword?

[wide atlas]

How do I rank her ?

[gusty sky]

craft potions and dyes

[iron crystal]

apparently there are two

[velvet juniper]

Brew/craft anything at her

[wide atlas]

Rodger thanks guys

[gusty sky]

because there's a greatsword everflame, and a longsword everflame, they have the same name, but they're not the same.

[timid vigil]

ahh gotcha thx. same with totems?

[gusty sky]

totems all have different names based on what weapon it's on.

but effect wise, yes.

[regal sparrow]

when the game offical release guys ? 2 years or 3 years ?

[knotty moon]

My guess would be a couple of years at least.
We have no official word though.

[tender isle]

even devs probably dont know exactly

[safe fossil]

Question: Is the only advantage of the Wyld pact 30 more points in the pact tree, or does it also have an advantage when you smite and your arm lights up?

[knotty moon]

That should be a Virtue buff, though I hear it is bugged and decreases it instead.

[safe fossil]

okay, thx

[brave wing]

there's no wipe on your progression so... you can safely play

[rain marten]

for pure physical, bear or king set?

[regal sparrow]

i dont have any content to play, dont have any point to misson or something secure what do i do now, just walk around map and do misson and shutdown the game ...

[languid flower]

guys, when doing quests with someone, do you not move forward with yours ?

[obsidian stirrup]

tried Bromius 8 times with a bow , courage build kept getting owned right after taking the first head off. Went in with my levl 16 great sword and dagger aoe and one shot him

[regal sparrow]

i think they need to focus in sth, like warframe, as least their has experience

[gentle violet]

is orengall pact good?

It caught my eye because it is a summoner style gameplay

[thorn cosmos]

is it worth to create all weapons and gear that u see? for like "mastery"

[knotty moon]

Also Arts points, though that system was up for rework.
Only weapons and pacts count for mastery.

[severe sedge]

guys is there just no story iin the game right now? ive played for about 4 hours and since ive found the silent rose theres been nothing going on

[worthy spindle]

can i reset the blue button puzzle inside crypt if i press the wrong one ?

[regal sparrow]

yeah you must to look around map and see what the "misson" is

or you just use youtube

[severe sedge]

ive been to about a third of the map, is this really a guessing game rn/forced to go to third parties for info?

[icy grove]

how do i offer a song of luck sprites blessing mission

[bold pumice]

it struggles a bit with against bosses as the summons dies a bit easily, sadly. Works a lot better for normal mobs, it's still enough on its own to do any piece of content with, but not as a summoner alone

[sly escarp]

Game's in pre alpha so there's some tutorial stuff not there, the game is also heavily focused on exploration and discovery

[sly escarp]

Find the stump with the shirne, then go up and press the key prompt to start playing a song to it

[regal sparrow]

nothing you can do, just look around, you can invite your friend to help you with

[gentle violet]

damn kinda sadge but thanks anyway
will be looking forward to getting it

[bold pumice]

Yeah, it is what it is, but it can still be a fun thing to mess around with until 30 and for a bit after. play it, make up your own mind and toss something into #1438224662344761345 once you've made up your own thoughts about it

[fresh orchid]

Where do you go for the siege stuff? I identify as a trebuchet you see

[weary folio]

what non-wyld secondaries am i missing exactly? i can't tell if the wiki doesn't really have them all, i'm blind or some stuff are duped as unobtained here.

[severe sedge]

thanks for all the help

[weary folio]

oh so purely the witan apparently, ty!

[strange galleon]

what do virtues do for your pact?

[gusty sky]

ability strength, duration, range.

[white igloo]

What exactly does reforging do

[gusty sky]

add the joinery to your weapn.

[white igloo]

...and what does that mean

[gusty sky]

well you can see the joineries, they give extra damage and stuff

[exotic gale]

weapon scales based on their respective skill. aside from that, pact skills scaled based on the following
courage - skill damage
grace - skill range/distance
spirit - skill duration increased

[strange galleon]

icy, ty

[crimson sand]

I heard endless starts falling off around 60 is that true?

[ionic garden]

Anyone know how to get back to the waste bear after dying

[exotic gale]

what starts falling off?

[crimson sand]

like endless xp

[tired sail]

It should have a shrine inside the boss room

[exotic gale]

xp / min will start to fall off becc ause it becomes a lot harder to kill, possibly

[sand anvil]

What loot is reserved for cogah besides more runes?

[exotic gale]

but i haven't noticed XP caps

[trim turtle]

Did they change how wyld armors look on males?

[crimson sand]

yeah me neither

[crimson sand]

good point here though

[gentle kraken]

is ode tempest still the top build rn?

[junior kestrel]

no

tethren is for dps

[exotic gale]

no, ode tempest might be the weakest pact post nerf in P12

[junior kestrel]

play tethren or oscelda tbh

[sudden fulcrum]

so i got my Wulder to rank 30, should i reforge it is there any harm is it super permanent regretable?

[exotic gale]

wyld tethren is by far the best

wyld oscelda and bromius are right below

[junior kestrel]

tethren if you are good at the game, oscelda for ez mode

i love gathannan oscelda

[gentle kraken]

thx guys appreciate it ^^

[junior kestrel]

thousands of damage on headshot throw

[exotic gale]

long blade + wyld tethren + flyblades might be the best

[ionic garden]

Well I tried using the shrine in the big center room where you respawn but it just brought be back to the entrance shrine

[stark nexus]

can somone send the sap locations

[junior kestrel]

what are the best totems for flyblades currently?

[exotic gale]

cogah talisman

[elder sail]

I hope until saturday New hotfix with mora buff

[royal heart]

tempest is garbage now, you can die easily even with abilities on

tethren 2 is much tankier

[vale river]

best longblade fr wyld teth?

[torpid lotus]

Anyone know anything about the dermak undercity here in the north, it doesn't look like an entrance or exit

[exotic gale]

marrow's bane

[junior kestrel]

which one for attack slot on flyblades: the clever, the thumper, or the ambling?

[exotic gale]

look for rat that increases dmg vs nearby enemies

or rat that decreases enemies def

[junior kestrel]

ok so the clever it is

[graceful comet]

could someone plze help me here and mark where the trees with the spears are roughly? cant see em through the fog

if possible

[oak dagger]

I gots Bromius now and my first secondary weapon!

[viral oasis]

I have a question, I just discovered the little hideout with the turtle people. But now I don’t have anymore quests? Not really sure where to go from here?

[calm swift]

Hi there, has anyone tried running soulframe on their steam deck?

[graceful comet]

cant seem to find anymore of the trees with the spears in them

[elder sail]

Congrats you got one of the best clears

[graceful comet]

like on my map lol

[calm swift]

Just overlay your map with the one above @graceful comet

[graceful comet]

no idea how

[keen escarp]

The Tethren skill on Cougah isn't working when you're not the host?

[calm swift]

Put em side by side on a second monitor or something (:

[junior kestrel]

right now we don't need more than 3 totems per animal for each weapon type, right?

[torpid lotus]

it's called dead reckoning, look at your map then use a same landmark you can see on both, point in the right direction then go

[oak dagger]

The courage ability isn’t that good in my opinion
NOT a strong first impression

[junior kestrel]

because we only have 3 totem slots

am i free to release the rest?

[graceful comet]

i have no other monitors

[crimson sand]

your phone?

[bold pumice]

it scales rather well, but you need levels and totem animals for it to be good, the initial impression for me was middling too

[torpid lotus]

You don't need to, you just alt tab and look back and forth

[graceful comet]

oh well i asked, now for over a month lookin for em

[craggy hearth]

what does charming animals do?

[oak dagger]

Runes? For a pact?

[calm swift]

I fear that some people have difficulty progressing in games without quest markers and an arrow pointing where to go

[bold pumice]

sorry, the totem animals

[elder sail]

You mean the Butt slam?

[graceful comet]

gotta ask a discord friend then if he can do this ig

[shrewd grotto]

How do you turn off the dang chat

[elder sail]

It scales with total armor rating, Mine is hitting around 2.5k - 3k actually 104 armor rating but i get higher numbers

[oak dagger]

Yes, the butt slam

[torpid lotus]

I love games where you CAN do it in game but you can also look outside the game and use real skills to help

[crimson sand]

this has to be bait

[shrewd grotto]

In game I mean. It's driving me nuts seeing everyone text on the left

[edgy sigil]

definitely bait

[junior kestrel]

do you guys keep more than 3 copies of each animal totem?

[graceful comet]

and hes not on 🙁 im screwed lol

[oak dagger]

Yeah but aren’t the totems for weapons? Those don’t affect pacts do they? Have I just not been getting any good totems? TwT

[torpid lotus]

not anymore, ended up with 120k in salt

[edgy sigil]

if you're not building a 1000 beaver army are you even playing

[oak dagger]

It scales with WHAT

[calm swift]

I enjoy the sense of exploration and stumbling across something without full guidance. @graceful comet just explore, you’ll find em!

[elder sail]

Dont forget that stability counts to total armor rating

[torpid lotus]

Go to settings, social, and turn off the channels

[elder sail]

Yes my build is Full tank

[bold pumice]

they add armour, no? which helps scale the buttslam?

[graceful comet]

i need the spear finding all the trees gives ya

[bronze sail]

Spoiler on pact
|| I found an Avakot selling pact i got after beating bosses, i crafted the Orengall pact that is 2 stars and Avakot is selling the same pact 3 stars but in my forge it is 2 stars is there any difference other than visually having 1 more star ||

[elder sail]

Scales with total armor, Focus your animal totems on phys, Magic armor and stability

[graceful comet]

just need locations marked and i cant cause idk where they are roughly located

[elder sail]

Trust me its completely busted

[elder sail]

Im one shotting medicant for example, one slam

[torpid lotus]

I do enjoy that, I explored the entire contient before I maxed a single weapon. But I'm an old Army hand and learned Land Nav, spot landmark 1 and 2, figure out how far you are from each and there you are, now use map to spot where you need to go next, plot angle and move.

It's so fun running into the wilderness but knowing what you're doing at the same time

[fierce terrace]

i feel like only having 6 weapon slots is gonna make a bunch of people quit the game

[torpid lotus]

You can get more

[graceful comet]

🙁

[stiff cliff]

Any good beginner build for Oscelda ?

[oak dagger]

I don’t know actually
Again I might just not be getting good ones OR paying attention
So far in my opinion Warframe build making >
But I don’t think I understand build making in this game to be fair

[elder sail]

Odiac

[torpid lotus]

I mean also "pre alpha" in warframe you run into the same issue until you get more slots for free from playing, so we'll see when the game comes out in 6-18 months (if we're lucky)

[graceful comet]

idk how to overlay the 2 maps to find the trees

[placid river]

Do dungeon agari have specific locations? I keep jumping into dungeons and not finding any of them

[lean relic]

how to use motes ?

[thorn cosmos]

is it worth to craft every sword?

[torpid lotus]

You don't need to, just look at one, figure out where you are, then look at the other and you can find your current spot then pick a tree and start running to it

[torpid lotus]

To level up the skill tree and overal mastery rank yes

[uncut crest]

god the song of growth is so powerful

[graceful comet]

can hardly play with discord open let alone havin more open as well

[lean relic]

does anyone know how to equip motes

[torpid lotus]

Use your phone

[graceful comet]

only have flip phone lol

[torpid lotus]

Then do it the hard way and just run into the fog and start looking for the dead tree

[graceful comet]

i think only havin that spear will let me beat bosses

[thin osprey]

how do i replay a quest bc theres no replay button bc i started playing before the quest was added but idk how to start it bc its the intro sequence

[placid mist]

whats the best pact for melee builds?

[grizzled fjord]

As someone that enjoys exploring without looking things up, it's totally doable to just run into the fog and find trees. I've found every one I've looked for so far (only missing top right because I haven't gone up there yet). Sometimes it can take a bit but if you can find a high vantage point somewhere, that can honestly help get a lay of the land

[graceful comet]

goin to just forget about getting that good spear i think, im not goin to find what i need

[trim quarry]

is this a prequel to warframe or a new game

[bold pumice]

probably tethren due to the presumably bugged damage they can do?

[digital path]

For now, it's kind of jank but they'll have trading and like Warframe it'll make that a whole lot more manageable

[graceful comet]

been runnin around most of the day lookin for em with no luck thats why im askin for this

[final rock]

separate things

[oak dagger]

You only have like 3 or 4 when you start in Warframe 💀
Also I have 7 weapons and I haven’t spent anything yet

[digital path]

What's everyone's favorite tidbit of lore?

Mine is the fact that there's a nonzero chance we go to space at some point and it makes complete sense for the story

[obtuse plaza]

The lotus on the moon

[glad jay]

How do u level up faction once u get it

[oak dagger]

What

[obtuse plaza]

Look at the green moon at night

[final rock]

get a certain amount of XP, return to the hub, and there should be an option to rank up

[zenith gale]

a witch withdrawn appears to be bugged for me, i was told to relog relogged note is gone, quest still not started verminia is just gone lol, i can't acces cogah now

[oak dagger]

Like do you mean the Lotus from Warframe????

[zenith gale]

support ticket i guess? is my only option?

[obtuse plaza]

The lotus symbol, yes

[glad jay]

But while your out getting xp will it say xp for them

Or just any xp

[oak dagger]

Yoooo mother is on the moon

[fierce terrace]

if you started after prelude 11 you should only start with 6 weapon slots

[obtuse plaza]

Can't wait to see moon mom again

[placid mist]

permanently bugged?

[graceful comet]

oh well ig feel like im running around getting nowhere

[glad jay]

Cus I had killed some stuff then went back and all i can do is see the stuff u can buy with standing

[placid mist]

also did they remove the chest that has the other starting weapons

[crimson sand]

please stop baiting @graceful comet

[digital path]

It's working as stated in the info for the skill so

[tired sail]

Shouldn't you drop down into the arena like this after reviving, or did something change in P12?
https://youtu.be/CAxPgnuCNUs?t=1715

[oak dagger]

I started in August idk what prelude that was
I used to be able to see my weapon slots and pact slots but I can’t anymore for some reason

[digital path]

What are you, the Master of Baiting? A Master Baiter, if you will?

If I get a mute for that I totally deserve it but I find it funny so

[crimson sand]

quite funny lmao

[oak dagger]

It was peak

[minor folio]

does the king not drop his leg fragments or am i just unlucky? ive completed his head, chest and weapon but havent seen any leg fragments\

[bold pumice]

it doesnt always behave properly with consecutive hits normally right now, but you can tap heavy attack with flyblades to get some wacky damage numbers on hits

[buoyant violet]

I do here what i did in warframe
Got every frame and every weapon variant in my inv as i progress through the game

[fierce terrace]

yeah you started before prelude 11 so you have 6 pact slots and like 21 weapon slots

[meager bobcat]

I think I unlocked the non-descript totem

[coarse vessel]

is this just a visual bug? I reforged but the attunement didn't change, it's still spirit

[digital path]

Doesn't show above only below

[coarse vessel]

so it has actually worked and the tooltip just didnt fully change ?

[digital path]

See how your requirement for virtue changed to courage tho?

[bold pumice]

It has fallen off a few times before the hit cap while im just wailing on an enemy, and also behaves very weirdly with flyblades, so I think its fair to call it a bit bugged

[oak dagger]

Okay genuinely thanks for that info
Cause I genuinely can’t see how many slots I have 0_o

[graceful comet]

guess i should not ask anything now ? oh well

im done

[coarse vessel]

ah yes I get it, just the icon shows spirit still but it has changed to scale with courage instead of spirit?

[meager bobcat]

what second utility should I use on this? or do I just stick with everflame

[crimson sand]

its not that you cant ask anything. Its like you want someone to do work for you. Explore or use the map that was provided

[oak dagger]

See I started Warframe around the time I got my first job when I was a teenager
So like
Every time I got a plat discount I bought some and expanded my inventory or somethin

[glacial current]

what is a flintsmoke? supposedly drops from a "seachnell"

[junior kestrel]

how good is defense against stagger? like, better than phys/magic armor?

[meager bobcat]

its a rune drops from cogha weaver

[junior kestrel]

i'd imagine armor scales pretty badly

[glacial current]

the spider boss?

[meager bobcat]

yes

[glacial current]

ah

okay, thanks

[coarse vessel]

yes but on hard mode cogah, gotta drink the cogah potion then fight her

[glacial current]

we were on cogah

[meager bobcat]

its a chance

[junior kestrel]

is defense against stagger worth investing in?

[glacial current]

yep, and i got it

just checked inv

[junior kestrel]

anyone?

is there anywhere else i can ask questions? Q&A chat is dead

[crimson sand]

while i dont know how good it is. flat physical with a bit of magick is king

considering staggers kind of wack

then again im a bow player

[junior kestrel]

thanks

[slim quarry]

we're 7 hotfixes in and still not a word about the fact that the faction tale rep grind is slower now than faster

[tough rain]

what else am I missing to open that door? I already activated the 2 statues

[oak dagger]

One shot spider

[crimson sand]

two status up behind you

one up by the tree

[junior kestrel]

one last question: what does 'perfect orbiting flyblades' mean?

[oak dagger]

Do an emote
Or something
Elden Ring moment yk?

[junior kestrel]

is it when you fully charge flyblades?

[bold pumice]

when you perform a throw with the ability to charge flyblades, you have a section of the charge bar with a different colour,

[junior kestrel]

oh so like other thrown weapons

[bold pumice]

if you release the charge in that section, you get "perfect orbiting flyblades"

[junior kestrel]

alright got it, thanks

[tough rain]

lol I already activated the statues that's why they are glowing

[untold crater]

Are pacts a permanent form of combat or is it interchangable

[meager bobcat]

changeable

[junior kestrel]

i assume stacking smite chance is strong?

[graceful comet]

game quit

[tight wing]

How’s the rune drop rate in cogah

[uncut maple]

most things die before you can even smite them

[meager bobcat]

is there a way to buy the reforge items?

[bold pumice]

It's quite strong yes, because uptime on the smite buff is a huge power spike, both due to the mechanics they unlock, but also the raw damage for overwhelming the armour reduction

[junior kestrel]

okay thanks

[bold pumice]

You tend to get enough from the arts/weapon trees, but totem animals can help a tiny bit

[placid mist]

what would you say the best primary is? i heard the best flyblades are from the 30 dollar pack

[white igloo]

Is there any guide for weapon builds yet

Also is there any major difference besides stats with the current weapons yet, like uh

Founder weapons vs what's in the game currently

[wheat flower]

Did anyone watch the warframe devshort? At the very very end Steve said "Tomorrow we are putting the new Tethren..." and then got cut 👀

[clear citrus]

I hate this belt attached to the skin

[edgy sigil]

yo did they actually remove the weapon rack ui? I can't F it anymore

[sinful vigil]

What's the best way to farm exp?

[bold pumice]

Use what you like the most, and which playstyle matches best with how you play will be the best. If you can land headshots reliably, bow is possibly a contender for the top, but Tethren can currently burst all bosses in one fellust with any melee weapon as well so... and spear throws + oscelda does great damage too. The best flyblade are probably from there, but there are two other flyblades which will do just fine.

[white igloo]

btw uh

How do I find the other pacts in the game? I wanted to level the non Wyld variants but I only have base Tethren right now

[placid mist]

gotcha. im leaning towards greatswords since i like those in most games but idk

[wraith perch]

is it me or did the green color change for stuff that is ready to craft?

[white igloo]

A good change tbh

[wraith perch]

didn't it used to be dark green?

[static musk]

Bear, wolf, and deer are quests then craft. Or cash shop to skip it.
Fire and lightning are faction buys, then craft. Or cash shop.

Well I mean you can also buy the three from the merchant.

[meager bobcat]

do cogha and normal bosses share cooldowns?

[crimson sand]

no

[meager bobcat]

as in if I kill a cogha I cant kill thm in normal

[slow parcel]

For a split second I just saw a little splotch of ink thingy dude in my journal with 2 googley eyes after being afk

[bold pumice]

Go for it! It can be a bit clunky now, with some hitbox misbehaving, but I've done all content with it so, it's fine enough ^^

[placid mist]

any reccomendations what to spend arcs on? only have the starting 100

also where can i get greatsword fragments?

[bold pumice]

weapon and pact storage slots for when you need it.

[dense burrow]

I still don't know if the Cogah talismans give the +5 attack bonus only when in Cogah, or everywhere. Anyone knows? lol

[white igloo]

Wonder if anyone has made a "naked" build yet

[bold pumice]

the Mendicant King drops fragments for Purity, which is generally the best GS, and Kith of Kings two star (I've received it from 3 stars as well, but it may well be a bug from what ive understood) missions drop fragments for another one called Needleseye.

[eternal robin]

Is there a way to restart from scratch, redo quest and such?

[white igloo]

like with no armor

actually is there an option to just have no weapons?

Like unarmed combat?

[placid mist]

ah okay. i wanted that guys armor since its cool so i gotta power up for him, only level 14 rn

[static musk]

Throw your weapon. Then don’t ever heavy. Wolf pact has an uppercut/slash instead of a kick.

[hardy timber]

I swear you got Enclave Rep faster before this patch

[static musk]

I haven’t tried but I bet you could JUST unequip your weapon. Since there is punching for when you throw your weapon

[bold pumice]

You can ask in recruit chat for shares, ie invite 2 other people for help, then rotating hosts so you get 3 kills total, but tethren can also corpse rush pretty well with fellust even at early levels even if its a bit janky :')

[placid mist]

did they remove the chest that had the other starting weapons? saw it in a video but its not in my world

[waxen thistle]

Yerp

[placid mist]

dang

my friend told me king has crazy phys resistance so was gonna use a staff

[lilac cape]

Is there a way to get transmog tokens without paying cash? just curious no biggie if not

[white igloo]

tbh I hope so

[crimson sand]

not yet

so no

[waxen thistle]

Convince other people to buy them for you 😄