gameplay-discussion

[storm dust]

so not really easy

[vital smelt]

Ah fair enough.

[storm dust]

I don't think I'd level the kith bounty

[vital smelt]

Mora's hand is pretty annoying to get with the new faction prices.

[wide steppe]

shit is lame anyway tbh

[vital smelt]

Yeah it needs a rework imo.

[storm dust]

my alca is still at r3 8k ish,

[wild abyss]

Sorry to bud in when will I get the black flower?

[vital smelt]

You can get Ode tempest from alca right?

Ode tempest is pretty decent.

[vital smelt]

Black flower?

[storm dust]

i think for the garden founder

[vital smelt]

Is that cos of the issues regarding the servers?

[wild abyss]

yes the one that they promise to give

i can't plant mine at the time

[vital smelt]

I imagine you will receive it when DE is confident in the garden servers.

So could take a lil bit.

[wild abyss]

i mean i saw some planted already

[vital smelt]

Really?

[quasi wolf]

That’s a good deal, better than stock mora’s hand pact purchase

Armor is common but the pact capacity and pact is nice

[vital smelt]

Speaking of which, I placed a flower and I can't find the garden I placed it in. is that normal?

[storm dust]

I'm still contemplating on whether to buy or to wait for faction change

[wide steppe]

what even is this number

[vital smelt]

What is bro's build wth.

[wide steppe]

all I can determine is that it's going up

[serene niche]

armor rating

[quasi wolf]

Maybe hold off right now. Factions grind could get shorter

[vital smelt]

I can't get it past 46.

[wide steppe]

ahhh I see

[quasi wolf]

Use totems

[vital smelt]

Fire fit btw. Himm I am kinda unsure.

[wide steppe]

mine is firer

[vital smelt]

I do, what am I missing?

[fresh orchid]

Is there a daily standing limit like in WF?

[wide steppe]

upgrade em

[vital smelt]

I have....

[serene niche]

Yes, 16k

[wide steppe]

max?

[wild abyss]

Classic MK set

[fresh orchid]

Thanks!

[quasi wolf]

The reason it’s so high is because the majority of the armor stats are in magical and stagger which imo is less important than physical

[vital smelt]

Can I put them on armor or something?

[wide steppe]

nah

primary and secondary only

[meager bobcat]

this squirrel just looks wrong

[eternal burrow]

how long is a boss cooldown?

[meager bobcat]

3 hours

[vital smelt]

Freaky ahh squirrel.

[serene niche]

3h per individual boss; also cogah is 3h per individual boss (separate timers)

[quasi wolf]

No but what armor you rocking anyways

[vital smelt]

Let me go check.

[wide steppe]

spoken like a man who can't dodge

[quasi wolf]

Yes that’s very true

[eternal burrow]

for trying to farm purity, would it best to do it in cogah?

[wild abyss]

rare squirrel

[meager bobcat]

I mean the eyes

[quasi wolf]

Why dodge when you can bonk with a greatsword xD

[quasi wolf]

Albino squirrel

[wide steppe]

I have no need for conventional weaponry

I am the weapon muahaha

[wild abyss]

albino animals tend to have red eyes

[meager bobcat]

i dont care about eye color I mean that the face is off lol

[vital smelt]

Arbearers mask, Mendicant king sabatons, Oreingurl cuirass, Idk if I spelt them all right but oh well.

[meager bobcat]

also god why are ducks so rare

[quasi wolf]

Thats pretty good

Did you upgrade your totems

[vital smelt]

I have every armor in the game. do you get buffs from wearing full sets?

[wide steppe]

you get the buffs they give you

[quasi wolf]

No I don’t think so

[wide steppe]

no

[vital smelt]

I have them maxed out on both my weapons.

Btw. any greatsword totem recommendations?

[wild abyss]

find near rivers

or shore

[meager bobcat]

im in the giant lake area I only getlike 2 ducks poer reset

[serene niche]

rat on red (for nearby dmg)

[meager bobcat]

biggest zone they can spawn in

[vital smelt]

The thief?

[serene niche]

I beleive so, not the atk speed one

[lavish smelt]

are cogah timers and world boss timers different?

[vital smelt]

For the physical armor?

[lime cairn]

why your thing look high quality or like high resolution

[quasi wolf]

Ah greatswords right now provide a significant lack of totem protection compared to other weapons. Try using a secondary with a defence rune and add a rat, deer or duck

[vital smelt]

Well idk if your using DLSS, but DLSS kept bluring my game a lot so I turned it off. But depending on pc it could vary I think.

[vital smelt]

My secondary is full duck build I think.

[lime cairn]

i havent even used dlss and i have everything on max

[meager bobcat]

why-

[wild abyss]

it shared

[lime cairn]

4k aswell

[vital smelt]

Thats pretty much the same as me.

[lime cairn]

4090 life

[quasi wolf]

Hum very weird you should have a decent amount of armor ?

[vital smelt]

3060 for me.

[wide steppe]

how did you get 2 ducks on defense

[meager bobcat]

wasnt talking to u I meant the full duck

[lime cairn]

oh

[wide steppe]

[vital smelt]

Two different type of ducks. 1 is "The ambling" other 1 is "the flurry".

[wide steppe]

shoutout to the ambling so cool

[vital smelt]

I mainly use my secondary to throw the blades around my body to get smite easy.

[wide steppe]

A taker of time...

[storm dust]

I can find mine

[vital smelt]

How do you find yours? is there some sort of marker to make it easy?

[storm dust]

I screen shotted the place but not the server

[wild abyss]

it will have a mark on the coner of the garden icon

[vital smelt]

I guess all I have is a memory of mine... ;-;

[vital smelt]

Strange I don't have that.

[storm dust]

my screenshot, and I do remember the server logo and position

NOT the number

[drowsy pier]

Anybody know how the XP sharing works in Endless?

[storm dust]

i just checked 13 servers to find mine

[vital smelt]

I never tried going back into now.

[storm dust]

suck soul for pact exp, fren suck soul for shared weaps

[vital smelt]

I still have spare flowers I could plant I guess.

[storm dust]

SPARE FLOWERSSS/????? how

[uncut river]

Can I make the game put player names above their heads?

[drowsy pier]

Are you sure? I've got my friend (the host) in a safe spot and whenever I kill/suck the soul none of us get xp.

[vital smelt]

You get all of the flowers from paragon right?

[storm dust]

WHAAAT SO THATS ALL NOT TO PICK ONE?????

sorry all caps im really surprised

[vital smelt]

Also I just realised your on my friendlist on soulframe...

[storm dust]

WHAAAT????? who

[vital smelt]

My account name is crumpor but I can't exactly remember what we did lol.

[storm dust]

you're right

we can plant more

[storm dust]

AHHH, mr boss rush when I was just lv 2

[vital smelt]

Oh my.

Wait what lvl you now?

[storm dust]

12 kek

[vital smelt]

Holy.

[storm dust]

[vital smelt]

Hehe..... I'm rank 17...

[storm dust]

as I said before, I've built 50% of stuff in current version and ran out of scraps and money

[storm dust]

ohh I'm coming alright

[vital smelt]

I still have a load of money left over from when you could get money from endless.

Though it's slowly getting depleted. 🙁

Avakot robbing me ong.

[storm dust]

I'm guessing you also maxed all factions?

[vital smelt]

Actually no.

[languid lion]

why are quicksilvers so much harder to get than every other joinery

[thorn cosmos]

Can i play soulframe now or do I need access to beta?

[vital smelt]

I maxed the rose one and im rank 4 for kings enclave.

[vital smelt]

You need a code.

[thorn cosmos]

is it possible to get a code

[vital smelt]

I'll just give you one if you want.

[wild abyss]

same but for me i only have one of the blue ones

[vital smelt]

I have a few spares.

[thorn cosmos]

could u giv e2

me and my main warframe friend really wanna test the game?

[languid lion]

i want a mora blessed quicksilver for my juniper but blessed quicksilver drops from only 3 bosses + glade banneret

[thorn cosmos]

would appreciate it a lot

[vital smelt]

Sure. let me private message cos I don't want some rando snatching it.

[thorn cosmos]

yes

[vital smelt]

I got some cogah potions if you want to do hard mode boss rushes btw.

[storm dust]

well well, I can't rn, will dm you later tho

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-sei-hm-interessante-hehe-gif-25283128

[vital smelt]

Type shi.

[meager bobcat]

how hard are they

[vital smelt]

With a full party they arent too bad.

[meager bobcat]

I need the dang cogah runes but dont have the fr#nch to lvl 2

[vital smelt]

You do gotta be a bit careful tho.

Like fire attacks will melt you.

[ornate nexus]

Which pact should I choose. Which combat style is currently the most satusfying?

[serene niche]

Doesn't really matter as you will get all pacts eventually

[ornate nexus]

ah so you are not locked to one

[distant jungle]

I'd not recommend Sirin if you have no Souls experience, it's the weakest pact right now. Isn't bad though.

The other two just gets all its damage for much less effort.

Oscelda leans CC, Tethren DR and burst damage.

[ornate nexus]

is sirin spirit?

[meager bobcat]

wouldnt he have a less enjoyable time if he has no souls experience then though

[distant jungle]

Sirin is Grace.

[meager bobcat]

id say oscelda its the most newbie friendly since heals

[distant jungle]

That is true, I would agree there.

[meager bobcat]

sirin just means he has basically no combat skills

[distant jungle]

And the hard CC is good for breathing room.

Spirit would be Oscelda.

[ornate nexus]

I think im going with spirit as magic combat just seems so fun

[distant jungle]

Magick weapons are stand and spam for their best damage, so it's very noob friendly.

[ornate nexus]

But can I change later on in the game or am I locked?

[distant jungle]

You can change later, yes, all pacts and all weapons can be acquired.

[ornate nexus]

Okay thanks

[distant jungle]

You are never locked to anything, and your character is largely freeform.

In that you can use any weapon with any pact and have it work just fine.

[slow vessel]

Oscelda tethren are the only viable now tho

Garren somehow still rocks but not at the level of oscelda

[wide steppe]

bro chill out

[slow vessel]

The rest of pacts being honest they need a rework

[wide steppe]

I'm not tryna get nerfed so stop it

[languid lion]

most pacts are decent though??

[wide steppe]

they listen too much to bad advice

[languid lion]

if anything tethren needs changes because its way too strong

[slow vessel]

Go cogah and u will see i tried everyone and these 2 shine also tethren + bow melt bosses

[languid lion]

ye cuz tethren is op asf??

[slow vessel]

The problem is

[stiff cliff]

Is the respec for attributes and chosen weapon skills without limits ? Or should I worry about choosing the wrong attribute and skill

[slow vessel]

They nerfed too much some they powercreep others and there is no mid term

[languid lion]

every pact is viable in this content ofc some are better than others but all are viable even in cogah

[slow vessel]

And seeing how the game goes they need some kind of rework

[wide steppe]

yall complaining for buffs just gets shi nerfed far as I can tell

[languid lion]

teth is just giga op

[slow vessel]

Teth needs a nerf

[fresh orchid]

Mora superiority

[slow vessel]

Wolf needs a proper rework, garren also needs some tweaks to be viable, bear being honest... Needs some changes also, mora is on the ground now, tempest even nerfed is somehow still good? U can proc a lot of executes, sirin in good hands / rogue play is also in a good spot only needs a few tweaks, oscelda is good because is healing isnt broken or op but shines because the avaliable content is what we have now

[wide steppe]

wait.. the content that we have is the content that is available

incredible

[lavish smelt]

i am not gonna lie i have no idea what yall talking about
i had a BiS everything brom build with orengall and ode, was doing 8k slams to all the cogah bosses (one shot)

[slow vessel]

Chill mate tranlating from spanish

[distant jungle]

Sirin lags a bit, but every other pact is good to great and perfectly viable, Fellust and Rump Thump just need some tuning.

[lavish smelt]

the ode nerfs were brom buffs in disguise

[languid lion]

orengall does kinda need a rework to 1 with mounts coming, and sirin is very player reliant, literally everything else is perfectly capable

[slow vessel]

Normal builds not meta endgame / meme ones side ofc with meta meme ones u oneshot stuff

[wide steppe]

this is why I hate metamancers

can't ever be flipping happy

[slow vessel]

Also bear like u told is spam slam but the other 2 skills?

[lavish smelt]

sorry i enjoy big numbers

[distant jungle]

Hey, I tend to chase meta too simply because I find the process of getting better, both in numbers and gameplay, to be fun in and of itself.

But I also ain't gonna call Bromius and Tethren the only viable pacts, that's just... no.

[wide steppe]

just shut up and have FUN oh my god "no i cant have fun unless i play the exact perfect optimal correct way"

[distant jungle]

Every pact is viable, two skills need adjusting, and Sirin needs a leg up.

I was having a lot of fun with Rood now.

[wide steppe]

like bro think for yourself instead of turning your games into math problems

[pearl pawn]

guys is there anyway to get more slots? the free 100 arcs isnt even close to enough

[slow vessel]

Indeed they are but need tweaks and teth a nerf

[lavish smelt]

i use the other 2 to help me hit the slam, the root thing because some bosses can block the slam damage (kabocha, gawth), and the third one gives u way more armor for even more damage

[distant jungle]

Explains how I have fun by optimizing myself cus I find it personally enjoyable and that not every such player is the same, gets told to shut up and think for myself, okay then nvm.

Hate it when people objectify an entire group of people and demonize them.

[slow vessel]

Yeah but u have teth similar buff more braindead thats the problem with bear

[wide steppe]

I don't know what you're talking about I didn't read your message

[slow vessel]

They need to change some stuff to make it more unique

[lavish smelt]

hey man i apologized for ur dislike of my playstyle, but dont attack us? u dont see me complaining about casual players

[elfin geyser]

i didn't get the "An invitation" quest for some reason is there a way to activate it

[distant jungle]

I investigate the meta to find out why what is working works so I can use it as a launch point to more intuitively grasp how things function.

Then I can start making my own styles that are equivalent.

[open birch]

This rock hasnt been implemented properly.

[wide steppe]

good for you

[civic heath]

shhhh

[distant jungle]

Many such small instances lol.

[lavish smelt]

tbh im still building my teth, im missing quicksilver mora blessed for juniper and feybalt mora blessed for odiac/erstroot

[slow vessel]

The problem of going meta is who u can't provide feedback on what is wrong tho

[civic heath]

Dont tell them about the floating rocks and trees

[distant jungle]

Investigating what works and finding out why helps when you later investigate what doesn't, as you can use that grasp to compare the two and find the reason.

I still play other pacts to try them out.

[languid lion]

i do agree that orengall needs some tweaks but more so because of mounts coming so the 1 is simply useless with that than because of combat ability

[lavish smelt]

blindly following meta/understanding meta is 2 different things

[slow vessel]

If u do that then yes but there a lot of players just go to the op stuff and don't look back

[wide steppe]

You must be a genius

[civic heath]

Orengall pact is really weird but that mostly bc the wolf summon is really "cat huh meme" levels of bad when spawned at a slightly inconvenient position

Also it being a SPIRIT primary scale pact is evil

[lavish smelt]

i was reading up on all the pact scalings on the avakot wiki and thought of the combo, then i went to recruiting chat to find a wolf + ode to do it and it worked

[distant jungle]

Then as soon as something changes, those people will be lost cus they never bothered figuring out why what work works and thus have no ability to adapt. I agree that those players should probably rethink their approach, and I specifically avoid doing that.

[deep temple]

Orengall's 1 only does the finisher for me when I start a fight with it but let's say if my wolves have distracted all the enemies I go into 1 I can no longer do the finisher. I only played her till max so I might be wrong?

[distant jungle]

All you've been is sarcastic tbh when everyone else is having a normal conversation.

Did you wake up wrong or something?

[slow vessel]

Orengall needs some AI rework of pet, the mount being honest when they add mounts should be removed and give him a proper exalted weapon

[civic heath]

Its bugged

[lavish smelt]

ignore him let him seethe and cope

[languid lion]

let them do that then? they arent the ones that care about explanations for anything and theyll just follow whatever the popular thing is each patch

[civic heath]

You can exacute with orengal 1 no matter what but certain enemys that have a kill condition wont be affected by it

It can also miss bc it lunges forward and then attacks

[languid lion]

the execute cant miss it has a prompt

[civic heath]

if the lunge misses you dont get an exacute and just give your self away to a free eletric nuke

[deep temple]

Whatever it is orengall's 1 is very inconsistent unless I'm opening the fight.

[civic heath]

It can miss

[languid lion]

the execute can not miss

[wide steppe]

metamancers ruin everything I hate em

[languid lion]

the player can definitely miss the execute prompt

[civic heath]

The prompt is to start the lunge they can still walk sideways during this

[deep temple]

[slow vessel]

The problem is who this culture is starting to grow and some edgelords require x build to do bosses or cogah xd

[distant jungle]

Bad generalization to make, but you do you. No need to be toxic though.

[languid lion]

this culture has always existed for every game ever its not growing its just a part of the internet

[elfin geyser]

Trying to run endless but the hole to jump in is covered in dirt. What quest do i need to complete so i can do it ?

[wide steppe]

nothing bad about it

[civic heath]

Orengal 1 missing is still not as bad as trying to block or parry a target that is 1cm higher than you

[slow vessel]

Mate i know it very well xd but man we are in barely a Alpha/ beta xd

[civic heath]

Pre Alpha

[languid lion]

its not even a majority of the community that does that

[wide steppe]

and yet here we are man

[languid lion]

theyre just the loudest part

[dull gust]

is there a map that shows enemy levels based on region? or do you guys know which region is the highest leveled enemies?

[distant jungle]

You tend to learn to ignore them, yeah. But they're in every game.

According to that vocal crowd, HBG in Wilds is dead, despite it being top 4 in DPS.

Cus they don't know how to play it but mount damage got nerfed so it's dead. Lmao.

[civic heath]

Ive seen lvl 7 guys right next to lvl 25 guys just assume the further from the spawn you get the stronger things get

Even if sometimes they jump up and down between like 10 levels

[languid lion]

very north east has highest level

the walls for the most part section off significant level changes

[open birch]

It is important to point these things out so the devs know. Makes for a better game when it releases properly.

[deep temple]

How long ago was p1?

[civic heath]

You havent met plains of eidolon floating tree I see

[wide steppe]

I should go find that one door with the missing polygon nearby and also the gap between the door and the wall

[elder sail]

Buff Mora's Hand please

[civic heath]

Dont forget the buoyant boulders in the north sea

Or that one pit in the north side swamp thats in the fog

[wide steppe]

oh also there is a gap in your player model too

[open birch]

Sounds like you dont need to find them, you already know about it good job :)

[civic heath]

yeah in the brain :(

[lavish smelt]

is it still bad?

[wide steppe]

if you equip the green wyld pants with the rags shirt your torso is just invisible at the bottom if you run or crouch

because the pants are too low for the model lol

so you can see through yourself

[distant jungle]

It was fixed to be decent last I heard, I'ma try it out myself.

[elder sail]

Its even worse, they removed on fire crowd control 😟

Its still 0 damage on cogah

[lavish smelt]

the primary issue in p11 was that it had ZERO scaling, but i thought they fixed that in p12?

[civic heath]

One of the towers in the north also has no hitboxes for the walls meaning if your trying to get to the top for the quest giving npcs you can just jump through the wall and skip the whole climb down

speed run strat

[elder sail]

Even with scaling and stripping enemy armor It still hit really low

[lavish smelt]

either wiki hasnt updated or still no scaling

[civic heath]

Wiki is out of date yeah

[elder sail]

Its nothing as Bear or Tethren

[civic heath]

Tethren mages when they finally get that attack speed buff

[lavish smelt]

the avakot one is pretty up to date on everything else

[civic heath]

I still think its crazy that the bows can deal like 800 damage on headshots with just primary fire and no ability buffs

[wide steppe]

well you see if you get shot in the head it is very lethal

[civic heath]

Instantly pull boss agro on your self

[velvet oriole]

its only me or Archery is giga overpower?

[civic heath]

Wraith keeps saying that the dead dont die tho

[wide steppe]

well, he always comes back..

[weary nova]

Tethren archer is bonkers

[civic heath]

With correct build you can strip like 30% armour with just a single heavy

[velvet oriole]

yep, im using this xd

[civic heath]

You can also go full parry archer

bc for some reason some of the mods give archers insane parry damage

[velvet oriole]

tethren, everysingle point into courage and every boss is dead in no time

[civic heath]

Get an wolf friend to use their 3 on you

get even more courage

[velvet oriole]

yea, but then boss needs to attack you, with my method boss usually die before he can reach me xd

[civic heath]

Does it matter when you can deal 4k damage with a parry?

[distant jungle]

Okay, who said that Mora was weak? Your second skill now counts as self damage despite not doing any, so it triggers your weapon damage boost on taking fire damage. When an enemy is lit, your third skill now one-shots at least level 36 enemies.

[civic heath]

Its like an epic prank

[velvet oriole]

im solo player, i dont have friends

[wide steppe]

does it one shot every boss?

[civic heath]

A lot of warframe and elden ring players have no idea how to actually optimise a silly build to still be crazy meta breaking

[distant jungle]

Your second skill is no longer consumed on being hit and still hard stuns.

[distant jungle]

Hey, I was an Elden Ring player who loved doing that.

I find it fun finding a setup and then gradually grinding away at optimizing it till peak performance.

That's just how I enjoy myself.

Both in the build itself and the strategy of playing around it.

[civic heath]

Ive used some of the weapons that people called bad just to see how "bad" they are, and its like people dont read the stats

[eternal burrow]

how long does the cogah potion last?

[wide steppe]

as we all know, if it doesn't instantly make you win it's bad and needs a rework

[languid lion]

played a few thousand hours of warframe and thought i knew how to optimize silly builds then i played path of exile and realized i knew absolutely nothing about optimizing

[distant jungle]

Who is saying that though?

[civic heath]

then you play conan exiles and realise you knew nothing about being silly

[distant jungle]

Lol.

[civic heath]

Still get nightmares

[elder sail]

Mora Hand is bad, everything is about optimizing your farm, why woulf i use a goofy class If i can one shot with Bear ass or even Tethren Machine Gun

[distant jungle]

Because those two skills needs to be balanced in the future.

[civic heath]

If this game becomes grindy it will unironicly kill the hype

[velvet oriole]

maybe its because soulframe is a new game, and there is no even stats or numbers in the discriptions of the skills?

[civic heath]

Grind only works in warframe bc nuke builds are flashy and kill everything in a 400m radius

[deep temple]

It's already grindy

[elder sail]

Agree

[distant jungle]

I don't mind cus I find the basic gameplay enjoyable as a souls player.

[civic heath]

Its got an ok amount of grind

[distant jungle]

It's very comfy.

[civic heath]

And nothing is islanded

[deep temple]

I have lost my sanity and hope farming for gath

[wide steppe]

I got what I wanted pretty fast tbh

[civic heath]

Warframe grind is bad late game bc everything is a island that does not benefit other regions

[elder sail]

Yes the basic gameplay is good but the grind is real

[civic heath]

The fact that even with a 3 hour timer on bosses you can still get all the gear you want in like 1-2 days playing solo compared to warframes 13-60 hours farming for just 1 thing

[deep temple]

I have been farming for 4 days with no timer on t3 alca tales and I still don't have what I want

[pure walrus]

I feel like the boss timer is not encouraging the type of play it was intended to. its making it so recently my loop has been firing up soulframe for like 10 minutes every 3 hours to kill the mendicant king

[civic heath]

The grind is enjoyable bc you dont need 4 million damage a second with weapons that have base of 300 max

[languid lion]

i mean this is to prevent everything being instantly obtained without playing the mode at all or buying anything, its kinda necessary unless you want resource costs to balloon infinitely each update

[wide steppe]

I hope people keep comparing this game to warframe until the end of time

[junior kestrel]

best totems for odiac?

[distant jungle]

Okay, Mora's second skill's fireburst can trigger smites.

[civic heath]

Its faster to grind prime trash for plat then it is to grind some actual mid tier items in warframe

[distant jungle]

An archer shot me, the crowd near me was hardstunned by the fire pop, and I got 2 smites instantly.

[velvet oriole]

i just did 25 dmg with a parry..

[civic heath]

You could farm the plat to buy an entire pack that the said item is part of in roughly the same time

[wide steppe]

huge

[civic heath]

Get the % damage parry upgrades

[velvet oriole]

i have.

[languid lion]

so?

[velvet oriole]

this deal 0 dmg

[wide steppe]

jez your pfp is legit

[civic heath]

are you using the bow to parry?

[dark raptor]

How do you parry...?

[wide steppe]

so when you block at the right time it parries

[civic heath]

right click at the correct time

[velvet oriole]

yea? because we were talking about bow builds?

[dark raptor]

Oh dang, I thought bow can't parry and only aim lolol

[civic heath]

they cant melee tho :(

[languid lion]

do you have the riposte node

[elder sail]

Aim parry is the true bow master mark

[velvet oriole]

no, a f pig node, what do you think i have?

[tender isle]

I don't think anything requires 60h farming anymore except may be for 2 sanctum guns and hespar

[wide steppe]

why can bows parry? who not

[civic heath]

EQUINOX

[languid lion]

equinox isnt a long grind just annoying

[civic heath]

The maps are still bugged

[tender isle]

Only if you are insanely unlucky and inefficient

[civic heath]

No but for real some frames like grendle are actually evil to farm

[languid lion]

grendel was fine?

[tender isle]

Grendle is ez

[wide steppe]

I got grendel so it couldn't have been that hard

[elder sail]

https://tenor.com/view/food-coma-food-eat-starving-kirby-gif-4698182

[wide steppe]

Get this man a gallant equal.

[tender isle]

Especially with 2 other people buying other 2 beacons

[civic heath]

I also got grendle after farming arbis for like 7 days bc the drones didnt wanna spawn

[tender isle]

Skill issue

[languid lion]

i think thats just a lack of arbi knowledge

[unique crypt]

is Dewelion still dropping from Malrog/Kaernhold siege? before P12 I managed to get two fragments from him, but since that turned into a proper siege I haven't seen anything drop from it except joineries

[tender isle]

With booster and smeeta it's fine

[civic heath]

Farming with other playes makes it a lot faster

[languid lion]

ye still from there

[civic heath]

Im a certified kavat hater

[hollow turret]

yes, i recently got the item

[velvet oriole]

.. ? what does it mean?

[hollow turret]

from malrog

[wide steppe]

a malrog of borgoth

[odd canopy]

Are there any changes planed for faction XP numbers? Looking at current XP/T3 ... i'll need a month to get from lvl 3 to lvl 5

[tender isle]

You can relax now it's trash now

[unique crypt]

alright, good to know. thanks 🙂 guess my luck is just terrible 😄

[velvet oriole]

what else i would use if theme was about bows

[civic heath]

Nah its still ok

[velvet oriole]

what do you mean by that?

[civic heath]

It can be used on chroma for 4billion credits in 10 mins

[languid lion]

its a rare drop itll take a few tries

[tender isle]

How it is ok, any other companion is better

You can put credit boost on any animal companion now

[wide steppe]

[civic heath]

smeeta still has its boost

[tender isle]

It doesnt

[civic heath]

charm still does the drop boost

except, it does

its just more rare

and less stronk

[velvet oriole]

what

[unique crypt]

I think I've killed Malrog 3 times per day for like... 2-3 weeks now haha

[wide steppe]

it's good

I like it

[hollow turret]

i think it just creates a single instance of a rare resource rather than doubling

[civic heath]

yeah

But you can double it with booster

[tender isle]

Ye it creates useless mats ones per year

And it's useless

[civic heath]

every minute 2% chance

[hollow turret]

i mean argon and orokin cells aren't useless for most players

[tender isle]

So completely useless as I said

[civic heath]

2% is the average drop rate for them

[tender isle]

1 minute with limbo to get argon

[velvet oriole]

thx i guess, but why flirt in the middle of the conversations about builds ;-;

[tender isle]

2% for argon per minute literally useless

[wide steppe]

you made it weird

[hollow turret]

and orokin cells?

[civic heath]

all rare drops

[wide steppe]

like idk why you couldnt just say thx from the start

[tender isle]

Same for cells

[wide steppe]

freak

[tender isle]

At this point dog opening crates is probably even better

[hollow turret]

i dunno seems situationally useful if you're grinding for them, not that big of a deal

[civic heath]

You clearly dont build 1 forma and 1 reactor each everyday

[tender isle]

If you grinding for cells and get 50 per 20 minutes and 1 from the smeeta

Insanely good

[civic heath]

in 20 mins can get 20

[tender isle]

1 in 20 minutes

[civic heath]

its gambling and I know full well you aint about to talk down on gambling in warframe

[tender isle]

It's 10% per 27 seconds

[civic heath]

so 2% every minute

[tender isle]

Useless

[hollow turret]

eh, it's one more cell or crystal or whatever you otherwise wouldn't have gotten

niche? absolutely

but it's there

[tender isle]

Just get a dog to open cashes or something

[civic heath]

some people dont use helminth invigorate and it shows

[tender isle]

It will give you more stuff

[hollow turret]

shrug meh, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't

[tender isle]

It's not even always cells and it's only on the map where you can get them

It can give other rare mats too

[velvet oriole]

because you could ragebaiting? like, everyone was talking about builds, and you randomly complements my pfp while im trying to understand how the f deal 4k dmg with bow parry

[tender isle]

So on map with 2 mats it's 1%

Are you really gonna cope 1% to get cells

[wide steppe]

ok weirdo

[hollow turret]

uh, i'm not really thinking about it that deeply

[tender isle]

You should

[velvet oriole]

ok idiot.

[hollow turret]

i use smeeta for affinity booster

that's it

[civic heath]

There is a mod that rips armour off when you parry

[tender isle]

Idk I have most of guns maxed

[hollow turret]

so do i

[tender isle]

Why you need affinity then

[velvet oriole]

there are no mods in soulframe.

[hollow turret]

because i just recently had to grind to LR4, and it was useful for that

smeeta has uses

[civic heath]

ok totem

[tender isle]

Everything has uses

[plucky junco]

just as a reminder, please be nice to each other 🥹

[wide steppe]

don't listen to him

[hollow turret]

okay good talk

[tender isle]

Some stuff is just better tho

[velvet oriole]

okey, but this still doesnt explain how deal 4k dmg with it

[civic heath]

Items being better and you using them does not make you better <3 but please move on, this server is soulframe related

[thorn cosmos]

how long into the game until you can play with your friend (multiplayer)?

[civic heath]

when you stop doing the story missions

[thorn cosmos]

how many hours is that

[plucky junco]

you should be able to invite people pretty much as soon as you gain control of your character i think, but story sequences can be a bit buggy in multiplayer

[civic heath]

30 minutes

if your slow

[civic heath]

Multiplayer is buggy already

[hollow turret]

story missions are really buggy in multi, i've seen people not get sap-taps

which is a huge issue

[wide steppe]

Doing the story in multiplayer is practically a death sentence lol

[wide steppe]

Happened to my buddy the other day

[civic heath]

All quests stop working in multiplayer

[hollow turret]

yeah, i've tried to steer people away from doing it

[civic heath]

They litterly turn off

[wide steppe]

Definitely not

[civic heath]

You could be halfway through wolf quest and it will stop functioning if you invite someone

[wide steppe]

How did I do em with my buddy if they stop working

[civic heath]

🤷‍♂️

Its buggy

[wide steppe]

riiight

well we all figured that out already

[civic heath]

Its just like the good old days in warframe

All we need now is a stamina bar

[wide steppe]

thats literally a bug!! 🐞

[hollow turret]

i do not miss that stamina bar

[wide steppe]

(there is a bug on his monitor)

[ashen rapids]

hello where can i find river pearl

cant find it

[hollow turret]

along the banks of rivers or dropped from bosses

they're semi-rare

[velvet oriole]

im talking about soulframe, so what do you mean move on? and i think you are only coping, because nobody anywhere is talking about big dmg from counters with bows

[ashen rapids]

can u show me the location

[civic heath]

Not you

[hollow turret]

literally any river

[civic heath]

Other guy

[hollow turret]

just run along them, and keep soul sight active so they glow

[civic heath]

I strip 50 armour with parry and I will keep doing it as much as I please

[ashen rapids]

im seaching for 30m but cant find one

[wide steppe]

bro just here looking to argue

[velvet oriole]

you message doesnt make sens, its you that told me about it, not me. so stop talking like 8y old kid

[wide steppe]

case in point

[civic heath]

You so right bestie <3

[hollow turret]

try relogging and searching again, i've seen stuff like that happen

or just focus on killing bosses, they'll drop them decently often

[wide steppe]

idek where my pearls came from but I have over 30

[velvet oriole]

yea, and my shots doesnt need to parry to strip armor because my attack do it already, 2 clean shots into the head and every boss is dead

[civic heath]

How do you people not have pearls

What are you crafting

[hollow turret]

you'll end up building a big backlog of pearls eventually

[wide steppe]

pearl necklaces

[civic heath]

0.0

The forbidden valorant info

[wide steppe]

valorant

[civic heath]

Scared

Valorant is a horror game where you are the victim irl

[wide steppe]

just play csgo please

[languid lion]

true

[civic heath]

I dont play either

[distant jungle]

Okay, tried out Mora's Hand. It doesn't need the self damage. Ember triggers Hungry Fame, casting Inferno with it on shouldn't melt a fourth of my HP, and I'm pretty sure the passive effect that makes enemies deal more fire damage is applying to all damage cus everything hits like a truck. Good caster pact, great AoE, good potential, the self damage is obnoxious and not needed to balance it. Would be better if it didn't exist.

[hollow turret]

i've heard mora's is good, so that's nice to hear

[civic heath]

Self damage for funny

[distant jungle]

Rood is just as strong in its own way and doesn't attempt to unalive you for using it.

[wide steppe]

The right option, tbh.

[distant jungle]

That really needs to be removed.

[civic heath]

The self damage can be kept in just as long as its not so punishing

[high forge]

It's also really bad when in Cogah mode

[civic heath]

Hp cost for high aoe dps would be healthy for a game like this in making it so we dont get nuke meta spam constantly

[distant jungle]

It can kill an entire group of level 36 enemies with one Inferno toss.

But the worst thing to hit for literally anything is consistency.

[hollow turret]

oh nice

[civic heath]

It just hurts

[distant jungle]

And half dying in that process doesn't allow you to be consistent.

I'd rather slightly less damage for the removal of the self damage.

[civic heath]

It would be less consistent then

[wide steppe]

self damage is thematic and cool

[civic heath]

Here comes the sun doo doo do doo

[distant jungle]

It would be more consistent, just less powerful.

I shouldn't be scared of using my two for the risk of mcfrying myself.

[wide steppe]

burning yourself to burn your enemies is hard af, bite me

[civic heath]

They need to work on armour and magic resist overall

[distant jungle]

It's not strong enough to warrant that, Rood can also crowd clear instantly at the same level.

And you don't mcdie when using it.

[civic heath]

Ive ran in to groups and bosses that had grey plates and oh look, 1 light does 140 damage

[hollow turret]

mcdeceased

[wide steppe]

Yeah but it's not fire

[civic heath]

I hope we get more paths for the arts on everything honestly

I wanna see some really messed up terrible builds that struggle to kill starter bow men

[wide steppe]

more balance complaints yipeee

[distant jungle]

Lmao.

[civic heath]

Im talking cant break a box in warframe on first hit bad

[distant jungle]

Anyway I'm back to Rood for now. Mora's is fun but too ouchy to be very worth.

It could be a nice sidegrade to Rood without that.

[civic heath]

Tbh the game is pretty well balanced right now

[dark raptor]

I guess I'm gonna be fighting 2 MKs?

[distant jungle]

Nah, bug is only visual, one spawns, one vanishes.

[wide steppe]

stand ready for my arrival worm

[civic heath]

actually 10 more spawn

and they all target your lowest level friend

[dark raptor]

Oh no I know, I'm just amused by this visual bug

[distant jungle]

Also, Needleseye, its pommel glows green. It's a Grace weapon tho.

Little out of place.

[civic heath]

Ode is a spirit pact but the fang trinket gives grace and the 3 (scales with grace) gives courage

[distant jungle]

Tempest is a courage pact.

[wide steppe]

you know what else is out of place.. somebodies sap tap

[distant jungle]

Unless you mean Orengall lol.

[civic heath]

Mendicant stag spawning in on my lvl 3 sword weilding self middle of the nimrod fight was peak

[dark raptor]

Also, where do yall get quicksilver joineries? I've gotten so many blessed by saphene for the other joineries except quicksilver

[distant jungle]

And yeah, the Courage is mainly cus it buffs your wolves and increases ability damage, it's meant to be synergistic.

[wide steppe]

would've been better if the butcher joined in

[civic heath]

Me when I go in to the crypt with a random player who wants to figure out the puzzle but they kill all the ghosts the second they see them

[wide steppe]

is there a puzzle other than the tri one I didn't look into it

[civic heath]

Yes...

[wide steppe]

I just got my tri pendant and left

[civic heath]

No...

You did not

[wide steppe]

yeah I did

[civic heath]

You did the gem puzzle at the least

[distant jungle]

There's the Circade armor, but that's something you just gotta look up on youtube or something.

[civic heath]

in the boss room

[distant jungle]

It was a community puzzle and isn't designed to be solved by one person.

[wide steppe]

no I didn't do the gem puzzle lol

[distant jungle]

You'd need at least 8, and that's if you don't have repeats.

[wide steppe]

I saw them but couldn't figure it out and quit

[civic heath]

What about the ghost kiting and bust rooms?

[distant jungle]

Those at least are just generic misc. loot.

[wide steppe]

"bust room"?

[distant jungle]

The circade armor is unique.

[civic heath]

More loot is more loot

[distant jungle]

And pretty neat too.

[civic heath]

Never say no to a chest

[wide steppe]

I don't care about the circade armor

I just wanted the pendant for stats

[civic heath]

The armour has some pretty ok stats tbh

not as good as wolf armour set but pretty much almost on par

[lofty oar]

if u buy something in the cash Shop is it the items or just blueprints?

[distant jungle]

I like it for cosmetics.

[distant jungle]

Outright item I think.

[civic heath]

Its the whole item yeah

[distant jungle]

Which is unique to it, same as WF's.

[lofty oar]

okay thanks

[distant jungle]

If you're paying plat, you get the whole thing.

[lofty oar]

i got the 3600 from the paragon thing so i was wondering what i can spend it for but maybe its worth waiting for new items?#

[civic heath]

Yeah dont spend it

[lofty oar]

its legit just fast forward i guess

[civic heath]

The fun part of the game is farming unironicly

And not even targeted farming

[lofty oar]

ye i think even content wise right now its smart to keep some work

i hate charming animals tho, it was fun the first 10 times

[civic heath]

Just running around like your some lcd ridden link and majora forgot to drop the moon

[civic heath]

Yeah the animal charm system is terrible

[wide steppe]

I don't mind it very simple and quick

[lofty oar]

but just out of curiosity what is it worth saving for ? i have played warframe a littel bit but what can u buy with it thats worth it

[civic heath]

In warframe plat gets you farmable gear that cant be brought with plat through trading

slots too so you dont have to get rid of gear you like

Soulframe is pretty much so early on you might as well consider the waste bear mission as tutorial

Heck, its how you get fast travel

[lofty oar]

there is fast travel?=

[civic heath]

Yes

[wide steppe]

does the blacksmith have a cutscene at level 3

[civic heath]

Collect your wevewett seeds daily

[lofty oar]

i dont even know what that is lol, i did quests but i dont know theres no way to tell if im done

[civic heath]

you can use them to teleport the whole team to any tree or faction you have unlocked

[wide steppe]

my game got softlocked when she reached level 3 because I tried to exit the menu

[vague widget]

i made a new acount did p12 add alot of new stuff at the beggining?

[lofty oar]

i didnt have one

[wide steppe]

so I had to alt f4 and have no clue if there was supposed to be a cutscene

[distant jungle]

Yes, new tutorial stuff.

[civic heath]

Look around the left side of the witches area

[wide steppe]

okay that's good

glad I didn't miss anything

[lofty oar]

in the nightfold?

[civic heath]

yup

[lofty oar]

there are rugs

[wide steppe]

there should be a plant of sorts

[civic heath]

Also if you have any founders pack use the music emote in the nightfold to go plant your flowers and cement your name in plant pots / dirt

[lofty oar]

i did the flower garden

and i have fouind the seeds

but is there any way to know if i did all quests?

[thorn cosmos]

is the online cooperative gameplay good?

[hidden gale]

Can you enter castle Kearnhold or is that area incomplete?

[civic heath]

yesnt

[icy topaz]

Good but buggy at times

[lofty oar]

u can do the siege but i dont think u can get IN the castle itself

[civic heath]

Yup

[wide steppe]

don't do any main quests online

other than that have at it

[civic heath]

If you go down and dont instantly die the game will soft lock if the whole team gets downed

[hidden gale]

Follow up question how do you start the siege?

[lofty oar]

there is a boss of some sorts starting with B i think

[hidden gale]

Banneret?"

[lofty oar]

yes

[thorn cosmos]

but is it still good compared to warframe?

[wide steppe]

it's functional.

[hidden gale]

Huh, I assume they would be roaming around the outside somewhere? I murdered a lot of Ode

[wet apex]

no ui seting

[wide current]

Hi, when I do a stealth kill or charged shot the damage transfer to a close enemy but I can't find what's causing that, it's ruining my stealth sessions someone knows how to change that?

[wet apex]

need help

[cedar rune]

um question, i just finished the bear quest with a friend, and we accidentally picked up the seed after and couldnt plant it. kciked them out but when trying to rejoin they get the messaage unable to join, objective has been completed. waht does this mean?

[lofty oar]

restarting doesnt fix it?

[wet apex]

It won't go away. I've tried it twice. Do I have to delete it and reinstall it like this

[hazy vapor]

It means they can't join u cuz the quest is flagged as complete. Relog or restart and they should be able to rejoin you. And they should have also completed the quest, check the journal and see if the quest still appears.

[cedar rune]

yep we both relogged and it worked again ty ty

also another quesiton, accidentall ymade 2 vasp-IV, is there any way to scrap or dismantle the spare?

[primal sail]

so the wolf pact is kind of clunky. Is there any trigger requirement for the first ability? takes somtime ages for the promt to show up and half the time the attack goes into void and does not do any damage

[hazy vapor]

we dont have a dismantle system, so ur gonna have to just sell the extra and refarm the resources.

[hazy vapor]

yeah wolf is a little jank, part of the ability is that u have to be unseen and when you are seen, you have a small window to get the assassination off otherwise the jank no hit happens.

[hazy vapor]

Did you check off the show UI setting? Also did you verify your cache in the launcher?

[wet apex]

no i'm start game first time

[wide current]

Nevermind I thought the mod was "+20% damage when close" lol it was transfer 20% of those damage to nearby enemies

[wet apex]

I deleted it and reinstalled it again.

[primal sail]

Thanks, so the ability is basically useless in a fight? That’s disappointing. Having only 3 is already a bit low

[thin glacier]

Honestly hoping that Preludes isnt even 50% of the game at launch. Dont get me wrong, i love everything about Soulframe rn, im just really hoping that the towns, structures, environment/dungeons arent so lackluster on official launch.

[wide steppe]

We shall see if it even launches

Game barely even functions rn

I hope it does well though

[hidden gale]

A thought: Enemies should not be allowed to block during Sirin's 1 that blinds them.

[wide steppe]

Blind people have motor functions

[hazy vapor]

its a utility ability, i use it to travel fast cuz it acts like a teleport so long as ur orignal body doesnt get hit. You kill the largest target with 1, summon ur wolves, buff them with 3 and fight.

[hidden gale]

Blind people also would likely not be able to block multiple sword strikes from multiple directions

[scenic solar]

2 more Moranite then I can make Bromius

[wide steppe]

Maybe they have good hearing

[hidden gale]

Yes. While all of the other ode are screaming about being blind.

[wide steppe]

Echolocation

[civic heath]

You did not

Lee sin mains are most known for not using map, wards or basic eye sight

[lofty oar]

ye but he himself can fight lol

[civic heath]

Full on running straight in to towers

[late jay]

does anyone got problems on multi with grass textures or trees?

[civic heath]

Wind, turn it off

[lofty oar]

this one better?

[late jay]

bet

[quasi tusk]

ummmm should i poke it and see if i get 2 kings at once??? lol

[neat citrus]

turn off "Volumetric Wind" in video settings

[brittle nacelle]

Who's the real king, the top or the bottom

[civic heath]

helmin I mean camel knows

[drowsy pier]

Why do people recommend 26 grace for Bromius?

[hidden gale]

Does the vadagar stag not always spawn within it's world spots? Because I can't get the one in Stroiac next to the mendicant king to spawn

I'm tired of wasting my nights on random chance whether or not the boss will spawn. I'd like to only have a random chance of what item it'll give me.

[smoky crater]

just increased range on the stomp and the vine ability i guess, i don't see other reasons

[smoky crater]

it's not guaranteed to spawn in the same spot every night no

[hidden gale]

Well, i've been to 2 spots now where it just straight up didn't spawn

Is there a way to tell which spot is the one?

[drowsy pier]

@smoky crater Wiki says the slam radius doesn't scale with grace.

[autumn musk]

guys who is mada and what does doing the floating device mission do

[smoky crater]

dunno then

[smoky crater]

exploration

[hidden gale]

So, no.

Is it slightly more reliable to do t3 bounties to encounter the stag?

[vagrant kayak]

Mada commands the Sinecure in this region, the Collector event drops a lot of loot and resources if you complete it

[cerulean sedge]

The endless room is the one with the spinning deer statue right?

[quick crest]

what do i do here

[queen kayak]

Sirin's passive, shrouded, only sees enemies during night during soul mode? Seems like a meh passive

[autumn musk]

lure a ghost knight in the middle of the statue until it reaches the pressure plate

[edgy needle]

Hey all, is there any kind of concensus on which of the colours to choose from the wolf and the bear?

I am a ranger of ord atm, so bow etc.

[hidden jungle]

hi any 1 know a good place to farm moranite?

[quick crest]

woops, already obliterated it

hey man he was running at me

[autumn musk]

it was self defence

[edgy needle]

Any word on which of the paths is best from the various quests?

[knotty moon]

Path?

[civic heath]

We got diving

Time to swim to that island

[dark raptor]

Sorry what am I losing materials?

I didn't know they have an expiry date

[knotty moon]

Bug.

[civic heath]

Yup

Bugs ate them

[dark raptor]

Visual...? Or am I losing them frfr

[civic heath]

Did you die?

[dark raptor]

Nope...

[autumn musk]

the termites in your pocket

[civic heath]

New day will sometimes remove items

Make sure you go to night fold often

[sudden forge]

Courage. 99% of pacts scale well with courage

[chrome pewter]

1. Do we have a fast travel system or mount?
2. After getting everything in our hideout, i noticed i get this purple icon with starts in my map, is that the only possible gameplay loop right now or am i missing content?
3. I've changed weapons from the greatsword to the shortblade and i noticed some enemies have an "X" as the icon and i dont do damage to them if i dont buff myself beforehand, is that armor type or something? Dont remember if the game explained and i didnt see.
4. Besides adding the animals and runes to your weapon and secondary weapon, is there any other ways to improve them?

[civic heath]

1 Yes fast trave;

2 see 1

3 Your damage is too low to damage them through their intense chad aura

[chrome pewter]

Hmm what is the fast travel system? im in my hideout but i dont see a place for that

[smoky crater]

1. limited fast travel exists after completing The Waste Bear fable.
2. that's a "faction tale" marker. there'll be an NPC you can interact with at that point that starts a "tale", a series of different missions that gives rep to your factions", the only form of "gameplay loop" at the moment
3. The damage your weapons light attack does is too low to get thru the enemy armor, heavy attacks in most cases will go thru tho.
4. On top of Totems (that you get from animals), and runes, you can add Joineries to your weapons. multistat upgrades that you can only have 1 on a weapon at a time. Blessed variants also can change the attunement of the weapon.

[chrome pewter]

I think i did that quest, ||3 headed bear boss?|| - What do i need to do next to use the system?

[smoky crater]

to be able to fast travel, you need ||wevetseeds|| and those you can get ||2-3 per day, from a sapling next to Verminia's spot in your nightfold.||

[steady linden]

Is it known if they're gonna brush up loadouts soon? It makes it a pain to make different builds when virtue spenditure is not saved between them

[smoky crater]

i think that's something they're aware of

[edgy needle]

Rip. I chose grace.

[chrome pewter]

hmm sorry, wagii, but where?

went around a couple of times, i dont see anything to collect

[edgy needle]

Can someone explain what the endless etc people are advertising? I played warframe a few years ago and got to MR 28 or sth so I knolw it from that but what is it in soulframe

[steady linden]

do make sure to access it from the little platform

It's a bit finnicky

[chrome pewter]

Ahhh thats why XD

[smoky crater]

there's an endless enemy wave arena in the Glades of Andurin dungeon that spawns infinite waves of Mockeries. people use that for leveling

[quick crest]

there is a tile that can appear in the glades of andurin dungeon where you activate a statue that spawns endless mockeries

[chrome pewter]

All right i got the seed, how do i use it?

[edgy needle]

ty guys

[smoky crater]

go to your map, and hold left click on a faction enclave or a world tree

[steady linden]

Just hover over any world tree or faction HQ and hold X on controller or left click on keyboard

[quick crest]

you only get pact xp if you pull the soul i believe, only way to get weapon exp is for another person to be pulling the soul which has caused some kinda toxic behaviour where nobody is pulling the souls

[smoky crater]

oh lmao

[autumn musk]

is mercurial the universal version of sodden

or mercurial doesnt apply to throw

[edgy needle]

I believe yes it's universal but that means it's got lower rates.

I have one that smites on heavy bow attack at 1/5 or sth, but the generic is 1/30

[autumn musk]

do you play throw purity or is it heavy spam

idk whats the usual playstyle

[smoky crater]

throwing greatswords isn't.... ideal

[autumn musk]

is purity heavy spam ?

[dark raptor]

Are T3s faction quests 3* and should I be doing those to try and get the quest to kill banneret in the glades for farming quicksilver joineries?

[autumn musk]

ive got this

[hexed mantle]

yo was wondring why random stuff i fighting becomes imortal and wont stop being till i dead?

[smoky crater]

i switch between heavies and light attacks a lot mid-combat

[smoky crater]

talking about the healthbars being grey and having an X on them?

[autumn musk]

rat beaver ?

the thing is throwing can hs and hs has a multiplier

[hexed mantle]

yea then most of the time even in i stun excute and stuff they wont go down even some times hp bars going away all togeather

[civic heath]

Just need to spam heavy attacks

[smoky crater]

the grey healthbar and the X just means your light attacks don't do enough damage to get thru the enemy armor.

heavy attacks will deal enough in most cases

[civic heath]

You cant see their health but you can still kill them with heavy charged

What pact are you using?

some pacts can be used to basicly turn their hp in to a stun meme

[hexed mantle]

the magic ones but yea some times even the hp bar will just dip all togeather

[civic heath]

Use 3 on the starter magic one the birds can break guard

[hexed mantle]

thats what i mean i breaking guard but i think it maybe bugging after that

[civic heath]

Nope you are still doing damage if you then hit with heavy

You can also spam E to stagger then exacute

Or do the evil thing and switch to sivir or wolf and spam the exacute util win

[quick crest]

how do you do the puzzle in the room where you beat the circade boss

the little blue things

[civic heath]

You need like 8 people if you wanna be authentic

Otherwise youtube has the whole code layed out

[quick crest]

no way to do it solo?

[quick crest]

alr

[civic heath]

You can guess the 10 gems and try again until win

[weary arch]

So how are you all enjoying the game ?

[quick crest]

a lot of fun even just for a pre-alpha

[weary arch]

worth your 29.99 so far ?

[quick crest]

worth my 1 year wait

[weary arch]

thinking about buying this

[quick crest]

you can always just ask in the subreddit for example

they hand out keys like candy on halloween

[civic heath]

In the catacombs ||bring the boss to the murals you can find on walls around the place using spirit mode||

[vagrant kayak]

Please don't ask for codes in the Discord

[upper inlet]

I didn’t ask for anything; I just said that if some people want to share codes, I’d be happy to pass them along as well.

[ornate lichen]

Are they going to erase progress in the future?

[thorn cosmos]

playd for 1 hour now and just killed the deer, when can i play online with my friend?

[deep temple]

They said no more account wipes. But systems might change and wipe certain aspects. But no full account wipes.

It's still alpha so things and systems will change

[ornate lichen]

Oh

[sterile pine]

Eight people who all happen to have different puzzle clues btw lol. So arguably even more

[civic heath]

Honestly I hope they change the password around every month or so

[sterile pine]

I hope they don’t it’s too much work then and the carcass armor would be more of a prelude exclusive for a while.

Needing a large group frequently to figure out how to get a mid tier armor just as an upgrade on the regular is a bit much

[civic heath]

they would have to change the loot honestly yeah

But like If the other crypts where these massive puzzles filled with things that alter once every month it would be

[lament mason]

hows the game so far guys?

[winged stirrup]

a fun game until you want to do something specific, then the sloggiest jankiest longest most unpleasant and badly designed grind you've ever seen

[smoky crater]

that's a bit much ._.

[proven bluff]

There is a decent skeleton. The art direction, music and potential keeps me hopeful it will become something good.

Right now its worse Warframe.

[lament mason]

i dont mind a gloggy grind tbh, as long as its fun then everythings fine

[winged stirrup]

it is not

you're having fun with the set you like or weapon you like, until you figure out that to get those 2 things stronger, you have to level the rest

[smoky crater]

"worse Warframe" also doesn't make sense with how they're 2 completely different styled games ._.

[proven bluff]

Bosses spawn on a 3 hour timer THAT ISN'T TRACKED and you get one RNG drop with no pity.

[winged stirrup]

the rest you do not like, and are level 0, and you are back doing lvl3 content on gear you don't like

[civic heath]

Its not even in alpha stage its a good thing they let us play it now so they can sort things like this out

[proven bluff]

You would think, but they copied 80% of the systems. Mods, Mastery rank fodder and crafting times.

[winged stirrup]

that's not even my main gripe, as in a fully fleshed out game that would make sense, you'd have something else to do in 3 hours

[sterile pine]

And one game barely has more than like 3 main quests

[smoky crater]

[winged stirrup]

but alpha stage does not save soulframe from "to get a weapon better, you have to play the ones you don't like, and also the ones that you both don't like and are objectively shit"

[civic heath]

I get they want people to use and other gear to extend playtime but the weapon arts do level stupidly slow for how little they actually give ignoring damage

[sterile pine]

It’d be like judging all of warframe off of vors prize

[smoky crater]

and the combat art system is getting reworked.

[winged stirrup]

they are not

[smoky crater]

they literally are...

[winged stirrup]

they are styled literally the same, but soulframe worse so

[proven bluff]

Why? You act like they forgot all their years of Dev experience when starting a new project

[winged stirrup]

in waframe you grind bad gear for QoL, in soulframe you have to grind bad gear to make the good gear better

[lament mason]

oh f.... forcing sth to players never end well

[civic heath]

Warframe is a high speed tactical nuker looter

[sterile pine]

Because that’s how early the game is

[winged stirrup]

in warframe, you do missions to get syndicate standing, in soulframe, you have to do bounties to get syndicate standing

[smoky crater]

i love how a simple "how do yall like this game" started this kind of a heated argument about what's absolute trash and how this game's worse than another...

[civic heath]

Warframe must be minecraft then

[winged stirrup]

warframe, endless missions are as rewarding as normal missions, soulframe, endless missions are nerfed to hell

[civic heath]

Soulframe has no "endless misssions"

[prisma thicket]

It's extremely easy to forget that Warframe in its early days was slow, clunky, and had huge emphasis on not engaging a lot of enemies at once. Give Soulframe time.

[winged stirrup]

warframe, you get a bunch of free slots, soulframe, you get 2

[sterile pine]

Real talk if you dislike the game put it in feedback and play something else for a while

[civic heath]

You havent played warframe back when it had stamina and it shows

[sterile pine]

We don’t have a nightwave yet for the free slots

[winged stirrup]

warframe was their first project

[sterile pine]

No it wasn’t?

[winged stirrup]

you still start with more than 2

[civic heath]

Your not playing soulframe right now, your not playing the alpha either

You are playing the barebones tutorial

[winged stirrup]

their first *non-shit project but true you got me there

[hidden gale]

Hold up, don't down talk Unreal Tournament

[smoky crater]

that's not true either...

[winged stirrup]

w ha t

[prisma thicket]

They also had Dark Sector.

[winged stirrup]

WHAT

[sterile pine]

If you touched early warframe you’d see early warframe was trash and it’s why they needed founders to remain afloat

[knotty moon]

Unreal...

[smoky crater]

and darkness II

[winged stirrup]

how am i finding this out today

[civic heath]

Dark sector is not a "bad" game in the sense that its just too dark to enjoy properly

It needed to be funnier so bad

[winged stirrup]

how could the people behind unreal tournament make dark sector and beta warframe T^T

[hidden gale]

UT 2003 was admittedly shit, but 04 was fantastic.

[proven bluff]

Why didn't they make Light Sector instead?

[smoky crater]

i feel like you'd learn a lot from the NoClip documentaries about Digital Extremes on youtube

[untold kettle]

do you need a quest or something to cleanse world trees

[civic heath]

Next game idea maybe?

[sterile pine]

Is gameplay outside of the cover segments is pretty fantastic tho

[knotty moon]

To be fair it has warts, but all in all it is enjoyable.

[smoky crater]

nope

[prisma thicket]

And don't discredit that they also did Extreme Pinball. Big footnote there, lads.

[untold kettle]

cool, I just cant cleanse the one im at then

[hidden gale]

DE Steve is directly responsible for the lightning gun in UT 04

[smoky crater]

you should be able to ._.

[untold kettle]

nevermind now I can

[winged stirrup]

ok well fair enough maybe they're just horrible at starting games and learning from the past i'll give them that

[smoky crater]

lol

[untold kettle]

soulframe my beloved

[winged stirrup]

but the direction the latest nerfs went towards still imply they like the grind as it is, and want it grindier

[sterile pine]

This game isn’t even in beta yet. If you want a similar stage from smaller groups search new on itch io

[smoky crater]

with "normal" devs we wouldn't even be playing this game yet ._.

[civic heath]

Melee needs more combos
Bows need arrow choice
Mages need a choice between wave based magic or FIRE BALL based magic
Then the combat would be perfect from the player side

[winged stirrup]

with normal devs this would be called an early access

this game is in alpha as much as warframe is in beta

[smoky crater]

[proven bluff]

God yes, magic weapons feel like flinging shit off a spade at enemies.

[smoky crater]

if the devs say it's pre-alpha it's pre-alpha

[sterile pine]

What mages in dark sector

[civic heath]

Its not alpha yet

We are litterly playing BEFORE alpha

[winged stirrup]

a pre-alpha doesn't have textures

[civic heath]

We are the ones that will suffer to make sure this game is good

[winged stirrup]

it has blender default spheres as enemies

[bold pumice]

the combat has such a laundry list of issues beyond that, sadly :')

[sterile pine]

What do you thinks early access even is

[mystic whale]

I didn't know game design was monolithic in its standards

[vagrant kayak]

Dark Sector is the result of publishers telling DE "You can't do a high sci-fi game gamers don't want that" so they made it more like contemporary near future military shooters

[civic heath]

1cm step vs parry/block who wins?

[winged stirrup]

if you present to me your 15 year old son as your newborn, i will call social services

[lament mason]

Can we play this game on a HDD

[sterile pine]

I still stand by a pre alpha build not being a thing but that’s just me being pedantic

[vagrant kayak]

I'm gonna believe the video game devs on this one personally

They'd know

[smoky crater]

having textures or not doesn't have anything to do with the development stage.
having higher quality textures from the get go is in a way just better than having bad textures because it means you won't need to fix them up so hard later on

[winged stirrup]

warframe still in beta btw

[hidden gale]

I will say, the grind is very oppressive at the moment. I feel like I just wander and wander missing boss spawns and getting bad luck on the bounties. And that's to get a fragment of something.

Warframe's grind differs in that you can reliably farm something back to back with little to no down time. Even the world bosses usually have a 1 hour timer that you have to wait for, and if you're clever, you can farm that boss back to back multiple times while it is available.

Soulframe sends you off to the Canadian wilderness when you finish a dungeon and you have to wander to the next dungeon before you can grind again. Enemies spawn randomly and sparsely and larger bosses have a 3 hour cooldown. That's rough man.

[civic heath]

Alpha stage games have the core mechanics and story down and just need to be polished

[smoky crater]

and?

[knotty moon]

👀
Wasn't Mass Effect release close to it?
One year eariler even.

[civic heath]

Soulframe has... the tutorial

Thats pretty much it

[sterile pine]

That’s more beta than alpha usually

[civic heath]

Beta has playable story just not completed

[sterile pine]

Very few betas have that

[smoky crater]

Alpha, about adding base mechanics etc.
Beta, about mainly polishing stuff up and adding some more content etc.

[civic heath]

If you wanna talk "Beta" every fromsoft game before 1st dlc is techinicaly beta

[bold pumice]

Many poor animations with bad pacing that make them unnecsessarily hard to dodge or parry, unreactable animations, poor group AI, sometimes causing them to be very passive, others to setup frametraps & combos. Then there's the current state of the lock-on

[sterile pine]

But like I said this is me being more pedantic

DE can call it what they want

[civic heath]

Just as long as DE fixes the issue before public launch this game will be fine

They cant really do what they did with warframe where the game is a mess for 1-3 years then good for a few with a massive content drought

[winged stirrup]

is the word charge back triggering the filter?

doesn't seem so, idk what was it, but ya i'm charging back my founders

[civic heath]

I love 999999 eletric nades

dont you?

[smoky crater]

okay?

[sterile pine]

I feel like getting founders before you looked into the game is irresponsible to begin with

[bold pumice]

I generally don't have a huge problem avoiding it, but sometimes they do put you in a position where you just have to facetank due to other attacks going on at the same time. Those times are really the problem

[lean rose]

Where do i plant the flower?

[civic heath]

People want the badge more than the game

[smoky crater]

i mean yeah it is...

[winged stirrup]

i'd love to see the game grow in a proper way, but this feedback is not it the game is gonna be horrible and i'm not waiting 6 years until the sycophants die down and they have to make an actual game

[mystic whale]

can I have your stuff?

[smoky crater]

in the Eternium Gardens. you can get there by playing the flute emote in your nightfold

[civic heath]

Play music in your pool

[sterile pine]

I like the game. Doesn’t make me a sycophant. I know it has issues

I still have fun

[smoky crater]

holy doomer ._.