gameplay-discussion

[distant jungle]

Charged attacks, throws, and charged shots from bows.

Those all have higher caps.

[alpine root]

Softcap is 40, going above it really doesnt do much unless you're using a heavy attack build, a throwing setup, etc

[young venture]

any idea what these are?

[sudden fjord]

that said im kinda confused by this game's damage formulas

[distant jungle]

You'll stop getting returns on other attacks tho.

[distant jungle]

Softcap isn't set and changes weapon to weapon.

[fallen agate]

??? thats the first i have heard of that o.o what you mean? The base weapon scales directly from the stats you ivnest into it up to its cap at which point it stops scaling, no?

[sudden fjord]

ive maxed out all of my staves and somehow Alder has the worst damage of the trio with Erstroot having the best

[alpine root]

Why greatsword has a throwing perk tree has yet to make sense to me

[tame tartan]

hey all-- how do you get a 5th flower for the garden? Specifically the one on the far right here, I only have 4:

[torpid lotus]

I think Throw is slang for heavy attack

[distant jungle]

Every weapon has a softscap, after that point they will not get more damage on most attacks, but charged heavies, throws, and charged bow shots all have a much higher cap than that base one and will keep getting damage linearly with further investment.

[fallen agate]

What else you gonna do with them than throw away in its current form? o.o

[alpine root]

Give me 20 million heavy attack charge speed and im happy

[distant jungle]

No, throw is throw.

[sudden fjord]

which is kinda bizzare because Gwylen is supposed to have worst scaling of the three, Erstroot and Alder are apparently equal, yet the scalings don't sem to reflect this at all

[torpid lotus]

You can throw a greatsword?

[distant jungle]

Yes, you can throw any melee weapon, it's an integral part of combat mechanics.

[fallen agate]

Huuuuh okay i have to test that out tomorrow o.o that would change a lot for me xD

[alpine root]

You can even PERFECT throw it

[distant jungle]

A weapon category not having it would be horrible.

[torpid lotus]

Ah, DE and your wonderful tutorials

[alpine root]

Id prefer no throw on greatsword for some sort of altered heavy attack effect

[young venture]

if you zoom in on it, its a bunch of weird little faces... cant do anything with it tho lol

[knotty moon]

I can't throw my bow. 😭

[fallen agate]

hold block + heavy attack
or hold block + melee attack if you turn it on in the options.

[alpine root]

The throw animation is so slow you might as well just use basic attacks anyway

[torpid lotus]

I've been at this for days now with no clue that was a thing

[distant jungle]

This is why I mentioned every melee weapon lol.

[knotty moon]

Bow used to be melee. 😛

[sudden fjord]

but anyhow i feel like they kinda gave grace players the short end of the stick after so long which feels bizzare

[distant jungle]

But yeah, removing any backup ranged capabilities from a weapon category would be a horrible idea and they should never do it.

It's an integral part of base combat.

[crystal silo]

hey guys, I wanted to play and have fun, does anyone have a spare key?

[fallen agate]

Oscelda stun + spirit polearm perfect throw is like 2.2k damage for me currently on weakpoint 😄

[alpine root]

I mean, considering greatsword has no reason to throw- i dont think itd be missed

If you are so hounded you need to use throw, some gamesense would be better learned

[dire shell]

history motes, collect them to regain history of an area

[torpid lotus]

Are rune droprates really low on world bosses or am I outdated or am I just horrifically unlucky?

[sudden fjord]

courage has so many pacts, Spirit has 2 + one wacky hybrid courage-spirit pact that is honestly...terrible, and then grace is just sitting here with big ol' bobbleheads lol

[sudden fjord]

Unlucky 🙁

[tidal pecan]

How do I get vetch?

[sudden fjord]

drop rates were buffed a lot, runes are fairly common to get nowadays

[torpid lotus]

I've got 1 from a world boss and 1 from a siege that's it.

and I've killed dozens of em

[sudden fjord]

keep at it, it took me FOREVER to get my staff rune

[knotty moon]

It is necessary for environmental puzzles too, having a weapon without it makes a precedent, if they then end up doing both a main and sidearm without...

[craggy hearth]

has the tutorial had any revamp since the preludes? is there any way to start a new characters? i've dropped back in and have zero idea what i'm doing

[torpid lotus]

that drops from the undead floating wizard in the south right?

[sudden fjord]

yeah

[torpid lotus]

I've got like 4-6 staff fragments from him...

[sudden fjord]

if it means anything Erstroot is seemingly the best staff in the game rn

[torpid lotus]

Yeah but 6, and these jerks are on a 3hr timer right?

[sudden fjord]

mhm

are you doing boss shares?

[torpid lotus]

nah been solo since I started

[sudden fjord]

i would start doing boss shares

gives you 2 additional attempts at getting runes tbh

[torpid lotus]

hrm

[sudden fjord]

i kinda wish they patch it out tbfh just because boss sharing is not fun

[distant jungle]

Make sure to bring your own boss though, nobody likes leeches.

There've been many cases where people see 'share' and don't think it means all 3 of them.

Somehow.

[sudden fjord]

fwiw i dont think people are actually leeching as often as people think they are

[torpid lotus]

not cause of this, I'm not super sure I'm going to give the game a whole lotta more time, I love it, it's just out of content (yes I recognize it's an alpha, I've tested it, I like it and wish to see more later)

[sudden fjord]

i play in a trio and we're noticing sometimes the third player's boss doesn't spawn when we go to her world and like...we know for a fact she isnt killing it on her own cause we live with her lol

like we're seeing on her screen she spawns in and the boss just aint there for no reason...

so bosses are kindda buggy rn and sometimes just decide to not spawn

[distant jungle]

Has she tried nightfolding and back? Trying a quick relog? Sometimes they don't like if you spawn in really close to them.

[sudden fjord]

yep

its happened to me as well

we usually gain some distance before we leave each other's world

or even nightfold while swapping instance

but sometimes we just...cannot get the boss to spawn in the very last world, its never the 2nd one too for some reason?

[torpid lotus]

You want "not spawn"ing? vadagar stag... jerk keeps ruining my tales with not spawning at the end

[sudden fjord]

YEP

stag has ruined my tales like that in the past too

[torpid lotus]

I mean everyone else spawns, just him, he's the jerk

[minor folio]

what do the ode tempest orbs actually do please

[sudden fjord]

so yeah idk im willing to bet like, half of the leeches in the game rn are not actually leeches just people who got screwed over by bugs

[slim quarry]

anyone got a reliable spot for the synod maiden flowers? I tried corrupted areas and got nothing

[sudden fjord]

you've got the right of it, they're sadly just rare.

Jaden drops also kindda haunt me as those drops that only spawn in small parts of the map yet only really like <5 spawn per region

[distant jungle]

One ramps your defense and I think stagger resistance way up, the field one makes enemies take a bajillion more stagger.

[torpid lotus]

I know it's not ideal but I'm having a ball right now with Tethren, 24 grace, and Juniper (will eventually bless it to Mora but gotta max it first and get a gildaur blessed by mora first)

I just smack 35s at range and regen health while tanking everything

[distant jungle]

I think they both still have a damage deflect when active at the same time. You're just not invincible anymore.e

[sudden fjord]

God I was curious and checked my character build rn

[distant jungle]

For bows it is heavily recommended you go Quicksilver.

Most of your DPS is charged shots.

[slim quarry]

by the void

[distant jungle]

Quicksilver makes those far faster and your headshot damage skyrocket.

[sudden fjord]

no wonder i can face tank coca cola grenades

[slim quarry]

how did you get that many virtue poitnts

[torpid lotus]

Damn, how does one get there?

[distant jungle]

Not virtue points, just totems.

That's a pretty average amount of armor

[woeful girder]

i accidently found the fashion lady and dont know where it is?

[distant jungle]

Make sure to apply rats and ducks to your defense slots.

[sudden fjord]

i wear the mockery set cuz i like the hybrid stats across the board, and im a mage who uses the archstorm rune

Buoyant gives +19 maagick armor, Blighted gives +10 physical armor

[ebon epoch]

Hold "q" and left click near them. Those are for unlocking the names of certain areas

[distant jungle]

Yeah, armor boosts are a no-brainer for defense slots right now.

You should always use them.

High 60s are the low end of average armor now after totems.

[sudden fjord]

Honestly they should just be deleted if you ask me but thats my hot take

[young venture]

wow thanks i had no idea what that did i figured id learn later lol but ive came across at least 4 of them and havnt learned

[torpid lotus]

Is there a recommended place to try and get a quicksilver blessed by mora?

I pick up a lot of gildur in the undercity

[distant jungle]

I'd just kill field bosses and spam high level faction quests. You don't get blessed from dungeon chests anyway.

[sudden fjord]

ive had similar gripes in warframe but i feel like once a mod is so BiS that you're kinda just trolling yourself to not use it, it should no longer be a mod but just a baked in part of gearstats

[distant jungle]

Those are boss only.

[slim quarry]

oh dang you right, I was using parry window, not flat armor

[torpid lotus]

Damn

[sudden fjord]

end game players walking that tank walk

[torpid lotus]

I'm behind the curve apparently 😆

[sudden fjord]

does sword and shield rune gives a second defense slot?

i wonder how bulky you could get with arch storm sidearm + SnS

[distant jungle]

If you go magick and magick for quad defense slots you can breach 120.

[sudden fjord]

man i kinda wanna be a magic tank now

[craggy hearth]

is there any way i can create a new character? or switch styles? wanna try out the other stuff too

[sudden fjord]

that sounds kinda wicked asf LOL

[slim quarry]

the reduction is not significant on enemies :/

[ebon epoch]

Yeah you want to make sure to grab those for sure. I did the same thing when I frst started too lol

[young venture]

thanks. are the green vine stones just respawn points or another mechanic ive been missing lol

[minor folio]

ty

[ebon epoch]

Pretty sure those are for lore in your journal. Not entired sure myself

[minor folio]

so i just did endless room up to lvl 38 and my pact hit max lvl very fast but my weapon only got to lvl 4?

[ebon epoch]

I don't think they functionally do anything

[young venture]

oh are those fables?

[gritty turtle]

Any reason to have 2 of the same exact totem (Same animal, same name), or should you just convert all extras into Harmony?

[slim quarry]

they messed up exp distrubiton in P12, before mockeries split exp evenly to your pact, main and off wepaon. now smiting dumps 100% of the exp to your pact, so your wepaons get nothing. your weapons will only get exp from mockeries if someone else smites

I also heard rumors that only your currently equipped weapon gets exp from teammtes smiting mockeries, but I need another guy to corraborate that

[ebon epoch]

I'm honestly not sure either, if you find out please DM it to me lol

[minor folio]

checks out, feels very bugged ya

[young venture]

will do vice versa xd

[minor folio]

im very happy it seems they split the sky and fog graphical elements

[gaunt fractal]

I was running Endless 3 to 4 days ago and I'm pretty sure I was leveling my off hand, only using my Pact and main weapon, cuz I rarely attack with off hand

[ebon epoch]

Will do!

[radiant anchor]

is there a map of levels?

always seeing only 30+

[crystal cliff]

Naw I've gotten exp pretty evenly for both weapons with other people smiting

[radiant anchor]

trying to do the crypt of circade

[gaunt fractal]

You can create new character within same account atm. You can acquire new pacts, which give you different abilities, as well as craft a lot of different weapons to change your playstyle

[crystal cliff]

Can't*

[frigid spoke]

lol

[gaunt fractal]

If you up North, levels go above 30

Stay in middle or south for lower levels

[radiant anchor]

nope, near the crypt at the center east

[hidden gale]

Are non-humanoid bosses able to be parried and then hit with Reposit?

[radiant anchor]

is it supposed to be 30 there too?

[gaunt fractal]

The crypt might have hight levels by default, regardless of location. Don't quote me on that thou

[quiet otter]

Do I need to go back to my faction to rank up before I can earn more rep? Or does it still track overflow so I can keep gathering toward next rank before going back?

[frigid spoke]

You need to rank up

IF you don't you waste faction points

[quiet otter]

Ooooh that's a bummer without fast travel

[radiant anchor]

is the game like warframe in the sense that i should level equipment i will not use?

[gaunt fractal]

I often run T3 tales up NE, the right upper corner of the map, and mostly fight enemies above lvl 30. If you go in the crypt at that location, there's even lvl 40

[frigid spoke]

SOrta, but yes. lvl the items to raise character rank

[gaunt fractal]

Yes, you need to go back to rank up everytime. There's a limit and no overflow

[dapper talon]

Little milestone i suppose, first time lvl 100.

[reef bronze]

When do new Eternal Gardens open up?

[terse zodiac]

@dapper talon I made it to 81 today before my game crashed

[gaunt fractal]

You can use in-game recruit channel to request a taxi. My enclave is Rose on the west coast, so I post - "LF Taxi West/Rose Enclave"

[final rock]

if it isnt automatically expanded, probably tomorrow

[crystal cliff]

Think it's auto when existing ones full up to a certain point

[reef bronze]

OOF, I don't like the spots left in the current ones ;w;

[quiet otter]

Awesome thanks! Recruiting is that place for that, good to know!

[grizzled fjord]

Quick question, sometimes a sparrow icon will appear on my compass randomly, but not show anything on the full map. I've tried to follow it sometimes but usually it disappears before it seems to bring me anywhere. I think the one time I did get somewhere, it went to a dungeon and had a small quest there. What exactly are these? Are they worth trying to follow?

[dapper talon]

Is there a setting to where you can hold left mouse button to keep firing instead of having to individually click every time?

[knotty moon]

I think they just lead to the nearest point of interest, usually an Ode'n camp.
Never really looked into it too much.

[reef bronze]

if you get the paragon with all the flowers does that mean you can plant all of them?

[quiet otter]

I see a lot of "share" in the recruiting chat. What is that?

[barren escarp]

yes

[barren escarp]

nope

[sonic fjord]

is there a build guid anyone has made yet? I see people killing level 100 things, and ive got my pact at 30 my weapon at 30 and i feel like im struggling so hard

[gaunt fractal]

I only use a sparrow while completing quests or when completing an objective in dungeon. Apart from that, I just pin point the location on map and use compass

[grizzled fjord]

Yeah, I don't mean the sparrow guide lines itself, but an actual sparrow icon on the compass, like how the Tales will show on the compass itself

[sudden fulcrum]

i have no idea if I'm doing what I'm supposed to, i feel like i went through and did some really hard stuff and now i'm doing easy stuff, i've unlocked ratatoille and the black smith lady.. did the first stag mission.. just don't really know what to do now, would really like to try a new weapon or.. "frame" if that's possible too

[spare crest]

Is eternium garden still bugged? i cannot travel to it

It’s stuck on loading screen

[brazen sparrow]

Should be working. I just loaded it up and tried myself.

[hidden gale]

Another question, does Moranite only drop from the end of the glades dungeons or from all the chests as a possibility?

[spare crest]

It has not been working for days for me already and cannot plant my seed …. :((

[brazen sparrow]

Hmm, have you raised an issue in bug tracking or contacted support?

[spare crest]

How do I do it?

[brazen sparrow]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788 check here first to see if somebody's reported it.. and pile in.

else go here: https://support.soulframe.com/hc/en-us

[karmic turret]

Reading some posts on the forums - damn. I hope devs have people who filter for them and aren't in direct contact

[brazen sparrow]

They certainly do compile the feedback and bug reports into a digest.

[spare crest]

Daamn it seems like I should have clicked on the seed? I didn’t know that…

[brazen sparrow]

aah.. you're sorted then?

[spare crest]

But now date will be seen when I plant the seed? I am late to the party 🙁

[barren escarp]

so currently soloing cogah and for some reason the debuffs are rolling around in a circle

[halcyon thicket]

around the world...

[brazen sparrow]

correct.

[spare crest]

That sucks so much I bought it from day one 🙁 the paragon…

[final rock]

going to have multiple rings around the health bar in the future

[barren escarp]

ya its a bug its not supposed to be doing that

[brazen sparrow]

this is a common feedback item. Try this thread to voice your opinion: #1444157190226055330 message

[final rock]

I assume they normally just take the upper half instead of orbiting

[quiet otter]

Is there a way to heal without potions? Can I wait somewhere or something?

[final rock]

haven't done Cogah yet as I just got access to the potion today

[tropic nacelle]

How do I get to the island?

[halcyon thicket]

you can't atm

[final rock]

have you ever played Kerbal Space Program? Probably involves something like that

[tropic nacelle]

Is there anyone that has that can take me there?

[barren escarp]

correct

[karmic grove]

are there any extra rewards for being in the Cogah outside of killing the Agari?

also, how do you leave the cogah? lol

[late crypt]

Wait Oscelda's plant doesn't scale with spirit or grace?? is there any reason to even be a spirit build as oscelda

[sterile pine]

you die
unless its bugged, then you quit and restart

[final rock]

die or die

[dapper talon]

Any expert oscelda players?

[sterile pine]

if you get the bug where you can stay in cogah after death well.. nothing stopping you from using it to your advantage

[sonic fjord]

I have been struggling with Oscelda as well

[final rock]

god I hope Soulframe gets proper stat details for pact abilities like Warframe soon

[spare crest]

There are no more places left to plant flower

[sterile pine]

why yes hello hello I do want some free runes

[karmic grove]

I enjoy oscelda, what's the struggle?

[final rock]

2 heals, 1 stuns, 3 staggers

[sterile pine]

its supposed to end after one death but if you get the bug you can just keep face slamming bosses

[sterile pine]

and all 3 are insanely useful since the stun also afaik doubles your next hit

big rock get big smack

[final rock]

personally the CC feels a lot weaker than it did in P10. It's fine but it doesn't feel as great now.

[karmic grove]

well, i killed all the bosses... now i can't do faction quests or anything while the bosses are on cooldown haha

[dapper talon]

So um is lvl 125 in endless the limit cause no more enemies spawning, can anyone confirm?

[final rock]

1 and 2 are good, 3 feels rather useless

[late crypt]

so as oscelda what reason should i not just max courage outside of weapon attunements, i thought spirit would make the plant last longer but it says on the wiki it doesn't

[sterile pine]

yeah gotta leave sounds like you got the bug and did the same. "Well guess I'm here"

[final rock]

granted, I have just been grinding out bosses and sieges for the past few days while leveling Wyld Oscelda

[halcyon thicket]

right now only courage is beneficial

[frail sierra]

Huh. I just found a grave that jingles when I enter soul mode near it.

Playing music doesn't do anything... Hm.

[sterile pine]

I mean keep in mind, courage = ability strength
spirit = duration
grace = range

oh is it the funny sun graves? I vaguely remember something about them in an older patch

[final rock]

the real question is what is efficiency?

[sterile pine]

nothing, since we don't have energy pools

[final rock]

ik, was a joke

[half talon]

||starter quest for orlick||

[frail sierra]

Ohhhhhh lol

[knotty moon]

So, am I the only one that read that description and didn't expect the effect to be "hold down block for a shield sunbeam"?

[late crypt]

Yes but for oscelda spirit does not effect the plant duration and grace doesn't effect range for it either from what i'm reading everywhere. And for the duration of the stun it's long enough and the aoe is already more than enough

[sterile pine]

I'd say grace definitely boosts its range unless its bugged in mutli. Because with grace to 20 it could cover the entire boss arena for me.

[final rock]

spirit doesn't effect 2s duration?

[sterile pine]

I usually ran courage for it but was levelling a grace sword

[sterile pine]

maybe its naturally hitting the cap with its own innate stats?

[final rock]

maybe, +22 is pretty high for a single stat

[sterile pine]

but grace def impacts range

[final rock]

well ig its +19 since +3 trinket

[dire night]

considering stuff has descriptions like "damage damage" and various logical contradictions..

[sterile pine]

I was actually shocked it could hit a heal for the entire arena

[final rock]

yeah descriptions for a lot of things seem to be very much placeholders/rushed out

[grizzled fjord]

Uh, is there an unstuck command? I thought I read something about it before but I can't even open chat (T?) so I have no idea how I would input it

[final rock]

/unstuck

[distant jungle]

If you can't open chat, relog.

[sterile pine]

if you can't open chat with T you can't unstuck, enjoy the wall

[distant jungle]

It'll snap you to the closest login node.

[sterile pine]

cave divers be like

[final rock]

oh should have read the second bit

[halcyon thicket]

press i, might help bring up the chat

[sterile pine]

https://tenor.com/view/cave-gif-17228320602214483460

[pallid hazel]

Hey guys new to Soulframe but have heard in game folks saying they are NOT going to wipe from this point on ?

[distant jungle]

There are no plans to.

[grizzled fjord]

Oh, it might've but ended up just having to log out and relog, but good to know and will try that if it happens again!

[distant jungle]

Barring some catastrophe that forces their hand. Which is doubtful.

[final rock]

The goal is not to

[junior kestrel]

does taut muscle for polearms only affect projectile speed?

[final rock]

my money is on something exploding tho

[pallid hazel]

sweet ty

[distant jungle]

If some kind of item thing happens they've shown they're able to target that specifically.

[final rock]

hopefully factions atp

[distant jungle]

They reset a bunch of resources before during the worst of the MP dupe glitch.

[full hearth]

That point was quite a while ago, last time we lost account progress was when transitioning from Preludes 6 to Preludes 7.

[ember sigil]

Sorry for the late response, I did end up finding it. Thanks!

[full hearth]

Barring any exceptional catastrophes, progress is going to remain until launch & beyond it.

https://www.soulframe.com/en/game/faq

[final rock]

can't wait for an account reset deleting founders!

[reef bronze]

How do you increase Tuvalkane's bond? Just crafting or is there something that needs to be done?

[dapper trellis]

How does coop in cogah work, does only the host need to drink the cogah?

[junior kestrel]

does taut muscle only increase projectile speed when thrown?

[dapper trellis]

Just craft stuff

[final rock]

so how "hard" is Cogah?

[vagrant iris]

He will touch you

[knotty moon]

Spider is mean, otherwise not very, if you are properly equipped.

[final rock]

still a decent margin of error, or will you shatter quickly

ah yeah Spiders already annoying enough w the adds

[full hearth]

Depends on if it's the spider or any other boss

[final rock]

man I should find a pact w actual CC after leveling Oscelda

[slim quarry]

does dying end cogah? how long does it last normally?

[final rock]

until you die* or log out
-# *assuming it doesn't bug

[spare crest]

How do I check If I have Cursed Marifold Bloom since I was having problems when gardens launched

I was not able to access it on day one

[slim quarry]

does getting invited to other people's worlds count as logigng out?

[knotty moon]

Until death, or you pull a Sir Robin maneuver (run away from a boss).
Eternium Gardens also pulls you out, but that might be a bug since it simply teleports you to a specific place in the normal map.

[vagrant iris]

Does anyone have a map for all the world trees

[knotty moon]

Avakot.org has a map.

[final rock]

dunno, only got access to it today

also the people who said you needed to get the faction colors to level them up were wrong

just brew the stat buff potions

[knotty moon]

Uh, apparently you can only hold five Cogah colas.

[final rock]

oh thats lame

[knotty moon]

Wonder if the other potions are also capped.

[slim quarry]

is that the potion to start cogah?

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[final rock]

makes sense tho, probably share a lot of the same code as the healing potions

[brazen sparrow]

cloudquell is.. at 100.

[final rock]

oh nvm interesting

does cloudquell do anything after the quest?

[pastel arch]

is there any reason to do crypt again after you got the armor set?

[knotty moon]

Depowers any Nimrod.

[spare crest]

What is the second best time and garden number to plant founders flower in your opinion?

Since most of us missed garden 1

[final rock]

ah, doesn't seem worth the mats then

I would say 69 but I think everything below 150s full

[knotty moon]

If you also got the Talismans, not really, unless you want the mats.

[spare crest]

It will grow to 1000?

[final rock]

maybe aim for 420 if you want to be funny

[final rock]

that depends on if 250 people buy Paragon packs

[spare crest]

Why 420 is funny

[final rock]

wait im stupid

how many spots are there in an instance

[knotty moon]

Slang, can't give you a meaning here as per rules.

[halcyon thicket]

saving for a rainy day?

[brazen sparrow]

there is a silver lining.. i got most of those when they were still free

i think maybe 3 of those were brewed

[final rock]

you can't say || :D ||?

[lavish saffron]

how long does it take for me to be able to play after I buy the founder pack, it saysi need an invitation

[final rock]

oh yeah you can't use *s as joke censors

[reef bronze]

How do I know what type of arrows do I have? I don't think it is mentioned on the bow

[final rock]

I thought that was just flavor text

[young venture]

that cracked me up.

[reef bronze]

I mean initially same but there's also Camphor Arrow, so I am unsure

[pseudo nexus]

How to get the fast travel seed and the cogah recipe ? did all fables before the update idk if it matter

[reef bronze]

I can appreciate flavor text as long as it's clear where it starts and where it ends

[young venture]

prety sure all of its just flavor

[knotty moon]

Should be immediately as far as I know, contact support if it didn't happen.

[young venture]

i had the same issue just reload browser, hit download, then it should go to download folder even if it still shows red warning you arnt connected

[final rock]

worst case just give it a few minutes. ever since Founders launched the server seems to have been a bit slow

[full hearth]

Wevetseeds grow daily in your Nightfold, from this Jug.

Cogah recipe is accessible once Verminia reaches Bond 2.

[final rock]

its up to 3 times a day now if your lucky apparently

I assume its an 8 hour cooldown now

[full hearth]

Doesn't it just roll from 1 to 3

[late crypt]

Had to test it myself because the info online is SO bad 😂 ignore the wikis, grace does work although the range increase is ok at best. it's already huge at base grace level

[knotty moon]

Still 24h, but you can get multiple on pick up.

[final rock]

I am unlucky then

[sterile pine]

yeah, it does enough that you don't gotta think about it anymore, honestly helps more during co op

[late crypt]

had to render at low bitrate because discord 😭

[pseudo nexus]

Thanx, and damn on the patch note for cogah it say "Discover the Witch Verminia by completing The Brewer of Hues, and level her to Rank 1." thats confusing

[astral grove]

could anyone point me in the direction of where i might find grynnetongue?

[slim quarry]

corrupted zones

[umbral shoal]

any of the corrupted swamps

[lean delta]

What is required to enter into Alca's enclave now? A friend of mine is trying to no success

[surreal halo]

are items crafting time were that long as in warframe? or one day mean day in game?

[fierce terrace]

i just got access to the game, is there a thing that shows which hair styles when customising your mother correspond to what your character will have?

[plush lintel]

Atm theres only one hairstyle and one face
We will get more in future

[fresh flax]

stone statue in front of rat cave, why cant i interact with it

first time in this area

[queen kayak]

Can't wait for chat filters to be a thing. First thing is muting endless chatter

[final rock]

its an important tool that'll help later

[knotty moon]

👀
Since when?

[fierce terrace]

theres a reddit post showing 3 hairstyles tho?

[plush lintel]

Flute emote if u can't press f

[fierce terrace]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulFrame/comments/1p8cmbr/envoys_hairstyles_and_corresponding_mothers/

[final rock]

there's a few that don't work outside of certain conditions

[neat citrus]

"we will get more in future" damn sounds oddly similar to what I said 🤣

[fresh flax]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

that worked ty

didnt know a flute emote exists

[plush lintel]

As far as i know there only one for fem and one for male atm
One from the post is just the male hair but for fem

[mortal wren]

Hiya
Recently I was shared the Envoy's Sphere Longsword Skin code for warframe by a friend, and I tried it, but it told me the code's invalid, however, the guy who gave me the code said it's now said it's used on his end of things, so I was wondering what happened there and whether we missed something

[junior kestrel]

what's the best sidearm for gathannan?

[final rock]

I dont think it needs one

[junior kestrel]

i know but might as well, so what should i use? odiac?

or flyblades

[final rock]

ngl I dunno, when I was running it I was just leveling whatever was in my pocket

I haven't really engaged w sidearms outside of throwing knives, but the Gathannan does that well

[lean delta]

The skin won't be redeemable till new update on the 10th from my knowledge

[final rock]

I should finally give the Odiac a try since its a sidearm now

[junior kestrel]

yeah that's what i was thinking

ppl were using skilter before

maybe odiac is better now

[final rock]

maybe. could have also saved the improvements for its prime varient

although from what ive seen the "prime" weapons stats seem to all be kinda eh

[mortal wren]

oh is that so? hmm interesting

Although he said it was now registered as used to him, so maybe it's in my account now but I can't access it yet?

[final rock]

I suppose the "prime" weapons should prob just be called wylds like the pacts

[worn sundial]

does anyone know if the paragon greatsword has triple scaling after being blessed?

[knotty moon]

It will scale to a single Virtue, but will scale much better overall.

[full hearth]

How did they even get a code for it

[knotty moon]

Purity is still stronger as far as I know though.

[final rock]

Paragon scales to every virtue you have

it doesnt just take the highest or need all 3

just give it as many stats as you can

[knotty moon]

Normal Paragon yes, Blessed Paragon no.

[final rock]

Blessed Paragon is when you pull smites right?

[full hearth]

Blessed refers to Joinery

[knotty moon]

Joinery, Blessed by X.

[final rock]

oh right

sorry didnt read far enough up lol

id just use a polished on it tho

[turbid topaz]

Is it normal for me to be unable to replay Warsongs? I can replay like 2 of my previous fables but not the rest even though I've done them all

[full hearth]

Does some weird stuff to stats in general though

[simple wedge]

You have a thing under your virtues like a title. It changes based on your stat distrubution!
I got this one

[full hearth]

Nvm i think that was Tethren lingering

😂

[mortal wren]

Probabaly brought a Founder's pack

[full hearth]

Nah

[signal cargo]

is there greatswords in the game?

[full hearth]

I am asking you because not a single Founder has codes yet

[final rock]

yeah 3 of em

[final rock]

one costs 100usd tho

[mortal wren]

nani wack, I'll ask him then

[signal cargo]

which are they

[final rock]

Needlesomething, Purity, and Paragon

[full hearth]

https://www.soulframe.com/en/user is where those codes go

[final rock]

Purity is the best from what I know, but RNG does not like me so I haven't tried it yet

[worn sundial]

what drops purity?

[final rock]

||Mendicant King finally got a wep||

prob worth spoilering that, sorry

[knotty moon]

Mendicant King.
I heard that T3 FT also drop it, but unconfirmed, and probably a bug if it does.

[glacial eagle]

Anyone got a key? I am really interested in this game but have not been lucky enough to get one

[empty ice]

First level up with Alca. Should I grab Epona or Wulder? I already have Odiac.

[final rock]

ah of course it does while I am on strike from doing faction tales

[mortal wren]

I think I misunderstood my friend

this means I can download and play soulframe preludes right?

[final rock]

yup you can play the game

[full hearth]

Yes you can play the game

[mortal wren]

yeah....
I think he was just sharing an extra invite : P

[knotty moon]

Epona are colors, and useful for leveling Verminia.
Wulder (sword) is your choice, but it is a good idea to grab every weapon in the game and level it at least once.

[mortal wren]

welp my name checks out

guess the matter's resolved, thanks guys

[edgy sigil]

yo my first time actually going to dermak why are all of the map markers exits

[signal cargo]

thank you

[knotty moon]

Oh, that's pointing to the Mines of Borros entrance.

[silent oasis]

im sorry but this faction rep farming to get ode tempest and other pacts is absolutely ridiculous.

[edgy sigil]

was i just unlucky this is the second "dermak undercity" waypoint that led me to an exit

[final rock]

you didnt grind it out before P11? skill issue :D
yeah the new xp reqs are not good

[knotty moon]

That place is particularly cursed, placing an exit there was not a good choice.
I didn't have particular problems with the markers leading me to the wrong place myself.

[final rock]

on strike from doing Faction Tales for a reason

[silent oasis]

i started played at the end of the last patch

[edgy sigil]

filing a upport ticket"im cursed with dermak undercity exits pls give cursed flower"

[white yarrow]

Have they mentioned if climbing and edge grabs are going to be added?

[final rock]

yeah, was a sarcastic jab and not genuine ridicule

I wish I grinded for Moras Hand in P10/11

[white yarrow]

I assume no climbing, based on sieges. But would be nice to be able to grab edges and pull yourself up. It just feels like an absence from a game like this

[knotty moon]

To be fair it is not completely terrible, not as bad as the P9 grind. 👀

[edgy sigil]

oh ffs why are they all exits

[knotty moon]

But then, that is a low bar to jump over.

[final rock]

can't speak to that, but the regression from P10/11 was not warranted imo

[torpid lotus]

Travel time in this game makes me think of world of warcraft circa 2004, and that's a mixed bag for me

[edgy sigil]

im gonna eat this bird istg

[final rock]

I wish you could freely bus between world trees or something

[wispy yoke]

what does it mean when i smite an enemy, and a color comes on my sword?

[final rock]

the boss killing marathons gotten old after a few days for me

[knotty moon]

Should be a buff to that Virtue, I think, maybe.
Not actually that sure.

[final rock]

the Paragon is a mystery that no one understands

if someone claims to, they are lying either to you or themselves

[wispy yoke]

yeah, and the swords description says im the second envoy to use the sword, shouldnt be be first if i purchased paragon? or is that just some lore stuff

[junior kestrel]

if i go to nightfold during a tale, will it end?

[torpid lotus]

good to know, was gonna ask how it attunes to virtues and caps and all that but I guess it's just weird then

[final rock]

all ik is it kinda looked like the Paracesis from WF when I first saw it

I don't think that's relevent but thats all I know besides it being mid

[final rock]

well maybe we'll get to kill another god or ||major antagonist|| with it

[fierce terrace]

any advice on which pact to start with?

[final rock]

pick your favorite color

you can grab em all later

[fierce terrace]

theres no purple

[final rock]

blues kinda close

[junior kestrel]

if i go to nightfold during a tale, will it end? i can't find info online

[umbral shoal]

does anyone know if the blessed joineriers increase the total attunement or just change the color, like does a two attunement weapon go to three?

[fierce terrace]

i think i'll go green because i wanna be a wizard

[spring flame]

is the endless area not leveling weapons? last 2 times ive tried im getting no exp

[knotty moon]

If you stay there for a while yes, but there is no rush (maybe 10+ min).

[final rock]

eh in the past its been inconsistent for me. sometimes itd immediately prompt the 30 sec countdown

[sudden fjord]

did my first cogah run today, honestly it was... a lil too easy tbh

[knotty moon]

It only did that in siege to me, though I didn't try again.

[final rock]

go to the spider

I've heard thats fun

[sudden fjord]

we already killed everything

[worn sundial]

are the wyld pacts different from the base version?

[final rock]

ah nvm then

[sudden fjord]

apparently but i dont see any st at d ifferences as far as HP and S/G/C goes

[final rock]

+30 art points shared between the normal varient and maybe better stats

[stuck token]

No, but you get more points in the tree

[sudden fjord]

yeah the main benefit seems to be the fact you get more points in the pact

[fierce terrace]

damn the blue pacts decoy skill looks really goofy

[final rock]

things are too obfuscated to really tell from a glance tho

[fierce terrace]

thats a damn big head

[sudden fjord]

i know im a broken record at this point but grace needs some love D:

[final rock]

DE please just give us a makeshift WF stat breakdown

[sudden fjord]

Sirin feels seriously weaker than the other pacts yet its the only grace pact in the game atm

[final rock]

even if it has a checker box background I'd love to see numbers

[nimble isle]

Is there an easier way to find world trees? I only have the first one and im struggling to unlock more of the map around the starting area

[dire night]

is building grace actually useful on it, though

[sudden fjord]

Not Really tbh

[fierce terrace]

hey chat

[sudden fjord]

ig trick benefits from the extra range

[fierce terrace]

you know the water area where you pick your pact?

[sudden fjord]

and powder will get a better blind

[fierce terrace]

does it kinda like flicker for anyone else?

[final rock]

when in doubt strength probably does something

[sudden fjord]

but bestone honestly feels significantly stronger than powder, 10 fold cause spirit's duration makes bestone last forever

[lean sand]

there's a map available here for you to find everything you need https://soulmap.avakot.org/

[sudden fjord]

and the other two skills just feel kinda silly and goofy

[knotty moon]

Glamour does open to backstabs.

[sudden fjord]

it feels very weak compared to Tethrens getting damage and armor buffs + a stun, and Oscelda getting the ONLY AOE heal in the game rn, + bestone and flock is amazing s tagger build up

[final rock]

shame Garrens heal seems to have been hit hard

[fickle anvil]

Does anyone know where the Orengall Quest starts?

[knotty moon]

Bestone + Headshot.

[dire night]

i tried building power on garren, the heal began oneshotting mooks

it seems worth investigating

[sudden fjord]

Is Garrens AOE cuz i keep trying to use it to heal others andd it seemingly doesnt work...

[final rock]

ah yeah itll do that

[sudden fjord]

like it suggests its AOE yet i cannot seem to get it to be AOE ever.

[final rock]

its not AOE, its a lifesteal attack

[sudden fjord]

thats...stupid

[final rock]

yeah it was strong in P10

[torpid lotus]

look for a balloon in the north east general area, there'll be a chest you have to kick open to get documents you have to read.

[sudden fjord]

very misleading desc, "Allies" implies more than just yourself but eh

[final rock]

just let you pop an enemy in place of a health potion

oh right I dont play w other people I have no idea if that works

[sudden fjord]

yeah ive tried it like

[fickle anvil]

Is there discord thread or wiki link I can look up?

[sudden fjord]

ive even tried being at max hp myself and letting my friend get damagedd and even when she stands right next to me and i use torment it still doesnt heal her.

[final rock]

lame

[torpid lotus]

Nah all the stuff I've found has the wrong spot

[sudden fjord]

maybe just a bug but it kinda makes it a useless healer skill ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[final rock]

avakot.org

[torpid lotus]

oh wait yeah the avakot map

[distant jungle]

Can still full heal self though, and just delete a single enemy immediately.

[dire night]

it also does stupid damage to bosses

[torpid lotus]

look for marker Orengal 1

[final rock]

Sadly Im a hermit and just see healers as self sustain

[sudden fjord]

i kinda hope we end up getting another spirit healer tbh

[distant jungle]

And often knocks them to the ground for a finisher too.

[sudden fjord]

Honestly in multiplayer keeping elderbloom uptime is super easy so i dont blame youl ol

a maxed out Vernal pool and Akin makes your CD so short even in Cogah

[final rock]

even in singleplayer its easy to keep up

ah yeah I should prob invest points into the pool

[sudden fjord]

kinda feel like they need to take out our healer kneecaps with a nerf bat rn ngl

[final rock]

problem is a lot of boss arenas lack water

[sudden fjord]

a lot surprisingly do actually

[distant jungle]

I don't use Vernal on principle cus I don't like anything that tells me how to play or alters my playstyle. I have visual processing issues so a lot of my gameplay is reaction and muscle memory and I try to have as few things as possible dictating what I should do cus it can be distracting.

[final rock]

ah right puddles

[sudden fjord]

off the top of my head:

• Mendi King
• Wraith
• Nimrod
• Imp
• Weaver
• Kab- this is like all of them besides the banneret and bow dude lol

[final rock]

Vernal?

[distant jungle]

Vernal Pool.

[final rock]

ah right

[full hearth]

Passive that requires you to stand in a pool of water

[final rock]

the names of things in this game go in one ear out the other

[exotic gale]

where can i find the max damage for each weapon by stat? there used to be one in the old discord

[final rock]

avakot.org has a wiki w decent info

[simple wedge]

Vernal pool is so useless bro
I literally never use it

[exotic gale]

I'm on there, but I'm having a hard time finding this info

[sudden fjord]

ya been s leeping lol

[simple wedge]

Its next node is the only reason I have it

[final rock]

spamming fun tho

[simple wedge]

If you can find water lmao

[final rock]

machine gun birds go

[sudden fjord]

Pool is so OP you can stunlock bosses in normal mode

like if anything its too strong imo

[simple wedge]

What bosses are near water lmao

[final rock]

ngl the birds feel useless in P12

[sudden fjord]

All of them besides bannert and Ruul

[final rock]

^

[sudden fjord]

but bannert and ruul are so weak they kinda die in like 15 seconds lol

[final rock]

imagine if vernal pool worked whenever it rains

and imagine if they added a pact that can summon rain in the future...

[simple wedge]

Literally no one can be used with it without severely back tracking and kiting
You have go go out of your way to use jt

[sudden fjord]

i think a discount Final Fantasy Green and blue mage would be cool ngl

let me get hit by a grenade and learn how to throw one back with magic™

all of those pools are in the boss arena

[full hearth]

Or maybe a pact that can turn into a useless, immobile pool of water

[final rock]

cant wait to use RDM and flashbang my teammates again :D

[full hearth]

We could call the pact... Hydroid

Then we could rework Hydroid later to remove that ability

[final rock]

was that an old hydroid ability?

[night iron]

how do you get new pacts and weapons and stuff?

[sudden fjord]

honestly with how staff is rn you basically are just a machine gun

[final rock]

I dont think I started playing WF until ~2019

[night iron]

I beat the stag but Im kinda confused as I didnt seem to unlock anything

[final rock]

man I need to learn to level stuff faster so I can actually try a bunch of stuff

[uneven galleon]

how do I survive the constant grenade spam in cogah

[sudden fjord]

you hacve to craft pacts

[sudden fjord]

spec into magic defense

[simple wedge]

Weather mage class

[final rock]

I have been swinging the Paragon for days now trying to level it

[night iron]

How? I havent seen anything on where to go to do that

[sudden fjord]

at around 30 defense grenades only do like half of your hp

[final rock]

you can't get me to remove the medicant outfit unless theres a big hat

[sudden fjord]

you'll do a quest to introduce you to the blacksmith NPC, gonna have to keep chugging along for now though

[night iron]

Gotcha just haven't gotthere

the cutscene showing off the cool armor and weapon after defeating him is confusing

[uneven galleon]

the first one knocks you down and then you are guaranteed dead

[sudden fjord]

ngl ive been playing with mockery set and i actually kinda love it so far

like mockery set gives me 30 in defense and magic defense and gives me like +10 stability

[final rock]

yeah, need to actually do boss shares and grind out that stuff

shame when I finally got around to trying that today invites are bugged...

[uneven galleon]

I have the fashion and OP sword

[fading oak]

New and curious. How does controller/gamepad handle for SoulFrame?

[sudden fjord]

pretty good

[empty dune]

Anyone else experiencing this???

[sudden fjord]

i havent played with it yet but my friends im playing with love it

[final rock]

it happens

[fading oak]

Did they have to set up the keybindd themselves or run decent off the start?

[sudden fjord]

better pay off your dracs debt before that incurs interest.

[dapper talon]

Is this a good one for oscelda to lvl?

[waxen haven]

So, uh. Anyone know what this is and what I'm supposed to do with it?

[sudden fjord]

on staff?

[dapper talon]

Staff and the gauntlets.

[sudden fjord]

that's a great totem yeah

[distant jungle]

Squirrel on utility is pretty much the most common totem, yes.

[sudden fjord]

id level that to max

[distant jungle]

Duck is more common if you spam throws, as it's even more smite.

[sudden fjord]

staff cannot throw 😛

[distant jungle]

But Magick doesn't have a throw so squirrel it is.

[dapper talon]

Also is rat for staff gold or silver

[final rock]

credit card debts becoming a real problem in Midrith

[sudden fjord]

i think it would be hilarious if they let you throw staff tho

[dapper talon]

Cause i cant seem to get rat for staff whatsoever.

This one.

[sudden fjord]

yeah rat is good

+10 phy armor is kinda the best for defense totems rn

[final rock]

so is player armor also a flat reduction?

[distant jungle]

I don't think we know that.

Idk, we might, but I haven't seen it mentioned.

[final rock]

welp time to pay someone to get shot 50 times for science!... what do you mean Friendly Fire isn't a thing?

[distant jungle]

I have two mockery pieces and an orengall piece to lean phys, so that when I put one duck and one rat in my defense slots I vaguely even out.

When I have a weapon with two defense slots, I add another rat cus phys damage is more common.

When I have two with two, I slot in a deer for some stagger resistance.

[dapper talon]

Dont you use rat for aoe dmg on staff?

[distant jungle]

Nah I go attack speed.

[dapper talon]

Or what goes in the attack totem?

[sudden fjord]

nah i use attack speeds + armor shred rn

[distant jungle]

Beaver and Squirrel are the general best combo for single target DPS.

[dapper talon]

So i need another one of the squirrels?

[final rock]

so the AOE damage totems just do ~25 splash dmg right?

[distant jungle]

But when there's only one slot I prioritize Squirrel.

Cus the vast majority of your damage with a magick weapon will be Feybalt.

So making it climb faster is extremely good.

[sudden fjord]

Feybalt my belovedd

[dapper talon]

What is feybalt?

[distant jungle]

The unique joinery for magick.

Main thing is consecutive hit damage.

Magick is largely stand and spam, it gets an attack speed boost for standing still.

[sudden fjord]

alright folks lets see how this goes

[distant jungle]

This climbs Feybalt faster for more damage.

[dapper talon]

Where do i get this feybalt?

[distant jungle]

They do as they say, 40% of your end damage to nearby dudes.

[sudden fjord]

Crypts coffins

[umbral shoal]

most consistent is crypts for sure

[sudden fjord]

i get a bunch of them from the crypts coffins

[distant jungle]

Chests in the glades, blessed from bosses.

[dapper talon]

You wont believe this right... but what and where are the crypt coffins.

[distant jungle]

For some reason the crypt uses glades tables lol. Even for its extra chests from puzzles.

[dapper talon]

Holy i love starting new games, so clueless.

[sudden fjord]

idk if thats the case cause i never g et quicksilvers from crypts...

[distant jungle]

Oh, is quicksilver what's in glades? I thought it was feybalt.

I don't remember where any of them are tbh.

[sudden fjord]

yeah glades is quicksilver

ive been trying to find blessed quicksilvers forEVER and have 0 luck D:

[dapper talon]

You guys talking about these things?

[distant jungle]

I max courage so my quicksilvers and feybalts are all blessed lol.

So I just got them from bosses.

[sudden fjord]

i really wanna play spirit bow but my fate seems hardlocked on being a staff user

[umbral shoal]

me 2

[sudden fjord]

bosses in glades?

[distant jungle]

No, bosses anywhere.

[tall hatch]

Guys, I'm farming weapon levels, after reforging they don't get anymore exp. One is level 26 and the other 11, is it normal? Should have reforged at level 30?

Thanks

[distant jungle]

Anything with a boss bar can drop blesseds of any kind as far as I know.

Patch notes list specific ones but that's never been accurate.

[knotty moon]

No, that's not normal.

[sudden fjord]

okay i have rotten luck then cause i have a ton of blessed verites and gildaurs and literally 0 feybalts and quicksilvers

[tall hatch]

I'm doing the infinite arena, zombies don't give exp... I tried another weapon reforged from level 0 and it gets exp. But juniper and nettle won't go up damn it

[sudden fjord]

oh nvm i have a silver blessed quicksilver but its courage not spirit ;-;

[distant jungle]

Hey, courage best stat.

[sudden fjord]

apparently the infinite zombie stuff doesnt get weapon exp anymore?

[distant jungle]

Couragemaxing is the true path to greatness.

[sudden fjord]

idk i like spirit uptime

Oscelda doesnt even really benefit from damage increase

but your flowers having such a high uptime is nuts

[uneven galleon]

does courage have a sword as strong as this?

[final rock]

iirc the bear one is the strongest rn

[jagged ether]

blessings mean that innate scaling is irrelevant, every weapon can be any attunement

[knotty moon]

Note that Marrow's Bane uses a different moveset, even if it is still a Long Blade.

[wispy yoke]

what does it mean when the collector has landed

[sick lava]

I saw something online about that endless Glades of Andurin method is only giving Pact xp for some reason

Not sure how true that is

[knotty moon]

Would event, https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1443393344238522604.

[uneven galleon]

doesn't it just add +1 attunement? but this sword has +3

[dapper knot]

what is smite? for example it says increased chance of smite on finshers

[wispy yoke]

ahh, what does it do?

[azure turret]

Ok...starting to lose my temper. What is the deal with the Waste Bear? Can do virtually no damage, but take 1/4 of health each hit, almost never misses an attack regardless of moving(shift/dodge does not work). What am I missing?

[jagged ether]

not how it works, regular joineries add a flat damage bonus and some other bonuses, whereas blessings, what I mean, change the attunement to whatever you chose

[final rock]

interesting. guess ill have to try that after leveling paragon

[knotty moon]

Ends with a fight with Nimrod, not sure about the loot pool.

[wispy yoke]

so i just sit here and wait?

[sudden fjord]

he's a tough fight and you kinda need to be geared up before taking him on

[subtle swift]

where now drops polished feybalts?

[proper glade]

Hey! What are these glowing things? Can't seem to get/use it.

[sand stump]

go into soul mode and then attack

[distant jungle]

Wdym? Oscelda benefits a lot.

[knotty moon]

If you go into where she is now there will be a quest tracker starting, just fight the Sinecure until Nimrod arrives.
Not sure if Mada stealing all the crates is still a fail condition.

[distant jungle]

Bestone has great courage scaling, birds have alright scaling.

[azure turret]

Not sure what you mean by geared up...I have my Wyld armor pretty much maxed, as well as my weapons...doesn't do much

[sudden fjord]

the Wyld armor is honestly not really good

[distant jungle]

Flower is also static and doesn't scale.

[azure turret]

None of what is available right now is really good, that I've found

[distant jungle]

Unless that changed in P12.

[wispy yoke]

do i have to enter the collector or something? im just standing here, nothing seems to be happening

[sudden fjord]

what matters most is that you have a joinery on your weapon and some totems

[dapper knot]

i know theres more quests but i cant find any

[umbral shoal]

Is it worth trying a courage blessing in my odiacs i havent wanted to commit to the blessed and just used polished

[sudden fjord]

if you need better armor i recommend doing the Circade quest as that armor set is a bit better than Wlyd armor imo

[distant jungle]

And yeah the Wyld armor is mid, the best sets are Mendicant, Orengall, and Mockery.

Circade armor is also mid.

[knotty moon]

Someone tested it scaling with Grace.

[distant jungle]

Nice that they added that then.

They did mention scaling changes, and I noticed my Fellust now having 7 charges instead of 5.

Which is... pretty cracked.

[sudden fjord]

ill test it out rn if y'a want

[wispy yoke]

can anyone explain the collector thing to me?

[sudden fjord]

OK timing flower duration with 41 spirit rn

about 25-27 secs at 41 spirit

testing with 14 12 spirit which is as low as i can get myself

18-20 secs, so it definitely scales off of spirit.

[sterile pine]

the rat that turns your normal attacks into a pseudo AOE is peak

[knotty moon]

In theory, since this has not really been tested as apparently no one cares:
Mada has a rotating spawn shared by all players, changing every six hours.
If you go to the place she is at the moment you will see a spaceship hovering in the sky.
If you get closer it will start the event.

The event itself:
Mada will use burning beams on the ground while you fight the Sinecure, after a while she wills start stealing boxes, and if she steals them all she goes away (this part I'm unsure about).
After a few waves the Nimrod shows up, kill him to complete the event.

[wispy yoke]

ahh, i see.. im standing underneath the thing right now and nothing is happening

[sterile pine]

the damage sent over bypasses armor so if an enemy has high armor and you'd do 20 damage on a real hit, but the guy next to him you do 100, you do 50 instead to the armored guy if you bonk the unarmored

[dire night]

boss spawns after 3-4 waves

[wispy yoke]

im guessing its borked right now or something

[dire night]

no stray enemies?

[wispy yoke]

none

[sudden fjord]

there might be a random enemy hiding from you

[knotty moon]

Can you post a ss of the map where you are?
Just to test if the location is in fact shared.

[tall hatch]

I confirm the infinite arena gives only pact exp atm

Damn what a letdown, wanted to get weapons up

[final rock]

well guess I had a good reason to ignore trying that recently

[sudden fjord]

endless nerf kinda feels bad but it is what it is

leveling weapons rn isnt too bad

anyhow i can confirm elderblooms benefits from spirit now

[final rock]

am I doing something wrong then? been taking a while to level my Paragon going around killing bosses and seiges

[uneven galleon]

I have not leveled a single weapon past 12 how do you do it

[final rock]

keep using it ig

[tall hatch]

Kay then, to the zones with lvl 30 enemies then

[wispy yoke]

yeah nothin is happening, im leaving lmao

[uneven galleon]

I ran a 2 hour long dungeon and it gave me 1 level

[sudden fjord]

yeah go up to the north part of the map thats where max lvl enemies spawn

[sterile pine]

hit tougher enemies and you can get levels faster

[sudden fjord]

fighting enemies in Cogah also gives amazing EXP

[rich abyss]

should i be worried?

[sterile pine]

100% I was surprised how fast my gear was levelling

[sudden fjord]

and honest to god Cogah is kinda easy right n- see a doctor

[sterile pine]

well you're clearly terrified

[final rock]

I think you might suffer from noodle arm

[sterile pine]

https://tenor.com/view/cowardly-lion-helldivers-2-hell-divers-cowardly-cowardly-lion-helldivers-hell-gif-10938067466471824762

no courage moment

[quick crest]

where can i find armoured mockerys?

[lethal dirge]

im curious, is heavy attack spam common with the bow? its weirdly fun to just make it rain arrows

[knotty moon]

Good for Smite. 😛

[rich abyss]

Negative courage moment

[oblique kiln]

hello guys , i rly wanna play the game , any1 have some extra key that will not use ? that would be awesome thx ! love from Portugal

[barren scroll]

Please dont ask for a key in this discord: #looking-for-group message

Read through that above ^

[final rock]

we should automatically nuke anyone who mentions the word code or key

[oblique kiln]

oops , sryy

[final rock]

if you want to enter the crypt or something no you dont

[oblique kiln]

it wasnt my intention , didnt noticed that , sry guys

[knotty moon]

Well, she doesn't seem to be there in my game.
Guess the shared thing is borked, or it doesn't start because it is not supposed to be there.

[lethal dirge]

fair fair... bows are fun tho, lookin forwards to later levels considering i've only just started

[sudden fjord]

Check ur DMs

[wispy yoke]

lmao guess so

[sterile pine]

I really like my long blade idk why its just fun

[wispy yoke]

im loving my p aragon sword man, fantasticx

[final rock]

I envy you

[wispy yoke]

youll get one eventually. maybe with my name engraved on it

[hidden yew]

Would Needleseye be a good Greatsword for a Orengall build?

[final rock]

no I already got one, I envy enjoying it

[lethal dirge]

thats one of the weapons that comes with founders right? if so, i gotta try mine soon

[charred steeple]

Wow watching someones 'ultimate guide'' and discovering that they've really redone the opening segement and I wont get to see it (makes mesad)

[wispy yoke]

ahh, yeah. i jsut love heavy weapons

either heavy weapons or magic. the magic in this game is ight

[tall hatch]

Where is cogah? Can't find it on Google 🙁

[wispy yoke]

what makes you dislike it?

[sudden fjord]

you gotta level up your witch to level 2

and then a mini-quest to unlcok the recipe starts iirc

you also need mushrooms + wevetwood sap

[languid lion]

whats needleseye attune cap?

[lethal dirge]

could be the nataruk effect, where the buzz if the first time using it fades, it feels great, just loses the fun of how silly fun its damage is

[wispy yoke]

nataruk effect?

[tall hatch]

Kay, going to craft then

Thank you

[sterile pine]

won't get to see it for now

[final rock]

slow and the dmg is lackluster

[lethal dirge]

a bow in warframe thats really good, but its excitement wears off eventually cos its kinda a 1 trick poney

[wispy yoke]

ah

[languid lion]

what does that even mean in this context

[neon meadow]

what bounties give most standing?

and whats the location

[languid lion]

tier 3

[wispy yoke]

dang that stag puzzle was eazy

[knotty moon]

Level 0-10
    1 Star: 100 
    2 Star: 200 
    3 Star: 350 
Level 10-20
    1 Star: 200
    2 Star: 400 
    3 Star: 550 
Level 20-30
    1 Star: 250 
    2 Star: 500 
    3 Star: 750 
Level 30-40
    1 Star: 300 
    2 Star: 650
    3 Star: 950
Level 40-50
    1 Star: 400
    2 Star: 750
    3 Star: 1150

40-50 is not in-game atm.

30-40 you can find around Mirifuir.

[soft saddle]

Text chat down for anyone esle?

else*

[vale geyser]

Can anyone help me with where to farm Mockerys and Impidh Mockerys for a Tessard? I haven't gotten a frag for it yet (got multiples of the others) and want to know if there are any specific spots outside of catacomb tombs and glades.

[neon meadow]

So tier 3's are still giving most standing in north east

[sterile pine]

though 3 stars take far longer, 2 stars are a more effective farm

[knotty moon]

Crypt near Kreanhold, kill the ones outside then relog.

[vale geyser]

Thanks

[knotty moon]

Impidh is the boss and doesn't drop the weapons.
Only normal and armored Mockeries do.

[sudden fjord]

ngl i skip any tales that require you go into a dungeon

kinda wish they werent a thing due to how much downtime they add

[vale geyser]

Boss is Trice-Impidh, the armored are Impidh

[knotty moon]

I don't believe they are named anywhere.

[vale geyser]

Patch notes

[knotty moon]

P12?

[vale geyser]

P11

[knotty moon]

That only mentions Thrice-bound Impidh, was it an hotfix?

[full hearth]

Same as this fella just more health

[rich abyss]

has anyone else had issue connecting to chat server?

[dapper talon]

Yes me just now.

[sick lava]

Does anyone have a screenshot of what the endless arena looks like on the map? I can't seem to run into one in any of the glades

[sudden fjord]

i kinda wish Ruul dropped quicksilver...

why does the archer boss not drop the archer joinery x(

[full hearth]

Not on the map, but this is what it looks like live.

[languid lion]

chat server is dead right as im about to ask for kingshare unlucky

[sick lava]

are you in one right now?

[full hearth]

No

[sudden fjord]

ngl the harrowing is mildly busted lol

making the staff unblockable is a dangerous thing to do, making it do AOE damage top to it off?

[lethal dirge]

oo thats pretty

[night iron]

I am fighting these glowing tree dudes and they are infinately ressing

[lethal dirge]

oh?

[full hearth]

You need to smite their soul once they leave their body behind

[night iron]

how do I smite

[full hearth]

Hold soulmode (default bind Q) and left click

[sudden fjord]

yeah the damage on harrowing cannot be blocked by enemies, it pierces block..

[night iron]

Ahhhhh

[sudden fjord]

its also seemingly AOE damage when they explode on death

[night iron]

im just dumb

[sudden fjord]

that said the death animation is amazing I destroyed a cannon with harrowing and the thing doesnt even explode, its just gone

[knotty moon]

I searched for Impidh in all patch notes for P11, it is only mentioned as the name of the boss.
Are you sure that it was mentioned referring to the normal armored Mockeries?

[sudden fjord]

within a blink of an eye its gone just like that

[median wagon]

Is Faction rep bugged? says I got 19k when I complete a mission but when I check the actual enclave it says im only at 12k

[quick crest]

does this only spawn normal mockeries? im trying to find impidh ones

[full hearth]

Yes only regulars, they don't drop loot.

[quick crest]

damn, where can i find impidh mockeries? trying to farm the sawblade

[jagged ether]

crypt entrances

[sick drum]

So when i join my friend my armor magic and stagger def stats at the top right of the arsenal are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than they should be, it seems that any stats given by totems are not being reflected there when in someone elses session, does anyone know if this is a visual bug or do i simply not benefit from totems while in someone elses session?

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[lethal dirge]

oooooo noice

[tropic nacelle]

How do I use fast travel now that I've finished the Waste Bear?

[sudden fjord]

theres a seed in a lil tree in nightfold

[full hearth]

Kearnhold Crypt Entrance has the shortest loop

[sudden fjord]

you can harvest it for fast travel charges

be warned you can only have 3 seeds at a time so dont try to stockpile, you cannot

[full hearth]

You go to the crypt entrance > Kill the mockeries > Relog > Run back & repeat

[jagged ether]

are you talking about on the tree itself?

[full hearth]

[sudden fjord]

alright so thats a bug report for me mine doesnt let me have more than 3 at a time???

[rigid void]

is chat (in game) down for everyone or just me

[sudden fjord]

down for me too

[twin lily]

Probably my fault… was just about to try doing coop for the first time. Posted in recruiting and chat died immediately after. 😂 Think the game is telling me something.

[sudden fjord]

i think the servers are hiccuping cuz my stag boss isnt spawning for t3 tale.

[languid lion]

that just happens

[blazing grail]

I just restarted the game thinking it was me

[signal cargo]

why can i not use this?

[languid lion]

stags been refusing to spawn for factions tales for a while

[jagged ether]

"required courage: 20"

[sudden fjord]

stats too low

[rigid void]

you don't have the required courage

[signal cargo]

i have 21 though?

oh wait

[jagged ether]

you have 21 physical defense

[sullen gale]

[civic pilot]

hows it going. i have just found out about this game tonight. is it worth buying?

shocked this is the 1st ive seen about it

[sudden fjord]

its in a not bad state rn

[frigid spoke]

it's free

[signal cargo]

yeah i just realized this

[sudden fjord]

for 30 bucks its a decent experience and tehy'll build onto it

[signal cargo]

how do i increase my courage stats though to push it to 21 just by leveling?

[sudden fjord]

but if you have other games ur eyeing for that price I would prioritize those im ngl

[winged stirrup]

oh my god

[civic pilot]

nothing about that i fancy

[winged stirrup]

i just saw an ode use the alarm console to ring the alarms

[civic pilot]

cheers guys

[knotty moon]

If you want the free ways to join up: https://wiki.avakot.org/Join_Preludes
Otherwise I think it is worth it, but do so with the knowledge that the game is still in Alpha.

[jagged ether]

envoy rank gives 1 assignable point each, there are two fables that give 1 point each, talismans give points and lastly your equipped pact and its upgrades give the majority of points

[sudden fjord]

yeah my main concern with recommeding people buy soulframe rn is like

if warframe is anything to go off of, teh game can and will change dramatically, even down to identity

[fair furnace]

anyone having issues connecting to chat in game?

[sudden fjord]

when i first got into warframe it was a fairly sci-fi-y space ninja game and then like, over time it had a p dramatic aesthetic and gameplay shift to like...space.......stuff, and also the gameplay is basically a hoardshooter now stealth is so pointless in that game now

so like, soulframe might see that same change over time, and you may like it or not, but its gonna change

[hushed obsidian]

yes, the chat server is down for everyone

[civic pilot]

i have watched a few videos on it tonight. the only thing that worries me is it looks like it could feel alone through the world

[sudden fjord]

i will say playing alone is a strictly inferior experience right now yes

your progression will be significantly slower without playing with other players

[narrow bloom]

what is that place for that you enter when you play music in the nightfold?

[languid lion]

i prefer solo play its just boss shares are really good for farming

[full hearth]

Eternium Gardens

[narrow bloom]

thats where the founder flowers are right? how can I find where mine are?

[sudden fjord]

yeah playing solo for quests n stuff is fine, but boss farming trying to play strict solo is just shooting youself in the foot

[full hearth]

You'd have to memorize the instance you planted them in, i think it displays a faint symbol on the top left corner for the instances you planted in.

[winged stirrup]

did anybody else notice anything that shows the ode being retextured grineer and the map retextured from warframe

[narrow bloom]

oh you gotta plant em?

[sick lava]

what's best method to level individual weapons?

[jagged ether]

eh, not anymore, enemy-scaling counters player amount and them massively boosting spawns for t3s plus adding a penalty for late-joining means you should be playing tales alone to optimize speed
the only real advantage other people bring are boss shares

[full hearth]

Yes you need to manually plant them into empty plots

You'll need to find an instance of the Eternium Gardens with empty plots left

[sudden fjord]

unrelated but did any other paragons get hate-mail for having 4 flowers?

[full hearth]

If the instance is full, its background will look filled like this.

[jovial ridge]

Is there any way to change my hair style?

[full hearth]

If the instance has empty plots left, it will look something like this.

[jagged ether]

some headpieces do that, other than that there's no body customization currently

[full hearth]

You can change hairstyles by replaying the Warsongs Fable

Also your skin color, eye color and hair color.

[frail zinc]

Is game chat broke right now?

[knotty moon]

Someone complained in Discord's chat about Paragons using four flowers into the same instance, but it wasn't over the top and no one else gave me grief for it.

[sudden fjord]

Replay the warsongs fable to change ur hair

[jagged ether]

it's the mother's hairstyle, not yours, your hairstyle is dependent on body-type

[cerulean mauve]

@frail zinc def is haha

[full hearth]

False. What you choose on your mother reflects onto you.

[wispy yoke]

i never got hate for usuing 4 flowers

[minor folio]

hey guys can any1 tell me the best way to reset mendicant king?

[frail zinc]

Anything else busted atm?

[mystic whale]

I was wondering that too

[sudden fjord]

yeah no someone outright DM'd me saying i ruined the founder experience for them because "this is the LAST instance EVER how could you take up FOUR slots when i couldnt even place ONE?!"

[cerulean mauve]

@minor folio wait the 3 hours

[wispy yoke]

i wish i knew that the mother determined what your character looked like

[languid lion]

you wait 3 hours or go to another persons instance

[minor folio]

oh dam

[languid lion]

and kill it on theirs

[sick drum]

Doesnt answer my question btw

[knotty moon]

Ouch, kinda feel where they come from, even if it is way over the top.

[sudden fjord]

idk maybe im greedy but i got handed 4 flowers i planted four flowers 🤷‍♀️

[gusty sky]

the latest update has made the choice pick your characters hair, it isn't just male gets this hair, female gets the other hair.

This hair certainly wasn't the original hair for dude guys.

[sudden fjord]

oh thats the funny part tho, this was back when the limit was 21, as you seen in screenshots its like 130+ now

they were really exaggerating

[knotty moon]

Wasn't meant as an answer, was meant as "that sounds like a bug, post it there".

[wispy yoke]

more rooms will come, they will get their chance to plot their flower

[sick drum]

I wanna know if my stats are being nuked

[jagged ether]

I love undocumented changes

[minor folio]

btw did they put in fast travel?

[sudden fjord]

apparently in either p13 or a p12(.1?) update we'll be getting more hair

[drifting juniper]

Kind of

[minor folio]

how do u pick your hair then

[sterile pine]

though I do hope they rework the flower stuff, its not that good even still because arguably only the first 3 instances actually matter

[knotty moon]

I have no answer to that.

[minor folio]

wdym

[sterile pine]

most folk are not gonna scroll down and see your flower outside of those 3

[gusty sky]

when you pick your mother's hair.

[minor folio]

but what if your account already existed

[wispy yoke]

it matters to me, that my flower is down, idc what other people think or see in the room

[drifting juniper]

Gotta complete Bromius thing to get the miniature tree. It will then grow one acorn per day that can be used directly on maps world trees for fast traveling

[gusty sky]

the warsong preludes quest has been replayable since day 1.

[tall trench]

Is there any mechanical penalty to dying besides having to fly back to the fight to respawn

[sudden fjord]

spoiler since the devs marked it as such:

||Ngl i like the black hair style but i do kinda wish they made it longer, but eh, its better than nothing.||

[languid lion]

it is not replayable for me as i never did that quest since my account is from before that

[sudden fjord]

still reeling over the fact the best black hairstyles in gaming is from an MMO from the 2000s/2010s

[wispy yoke]

yooo, i want that!

[gusty sky]

my account is from before that too, and I have it replayable

[jagged ether]

if you have bromius you can test that, use its 1 in your own session, then join your friend and use it there
the damage scales with total armor (1*physical+1*magick+0.8*stability), so if it's different then your damage should be different

[minor folio]

my female character has none of those hairs

[sterile pine]

I think you misunderstood what I said I'm saying no one will see them so it needs to be reworked

[sudden fjord]

these are coming in a future update

[full hearth]

Some people seem to be missing the option to replay, it's odd.

How old or new the account is doesn't seem to play a part either.

[wispy yoke]

i dont think it needs to be reworked for people to see them.

[sudden fjord]

andhow, guild wars 2 my beloved

[languid lion]

chat is back i think

[sudden fjord]

i can only hope one day another game studio comes close to this fire

[languid lion]

nvm

[gusty sky]

my account is el ancient. by ancient I mean I was here with preludes update 1.1.3 (march 6th 2024)

[rigid void]

are the forts the best scrap farm?

[final rock]

chat is this real?

[full hearth]

Mine is even older, yet i too can replay the fable.

[sudden fjord]

yeah forts have a lot of scrap tbh

[sterile pine]

tbh I think it should be considering its not an issue on warframe where founders get a scrolling list

[final rock]

undercity has a good few racks in em

[full hearth]

The account age has nothing to do with this one i'd say.

[gusty sky]

yes, so is not an old account thing since I can replay it

[languid lion]

no option to replay warsongs for me

[wispy yoke]

founders already get the original paragon sword, so theres that

[static musk]

Feels like it @rigid void Curtail has something like 6-9 weapon racks between the inside and the outside. Probably more

[gusty sky]

again, since day 1 of the warson prelude existing

[sterile pine]

only the 100 dollar ones. And that's still not the same. Idk why you're being argumentatitive when being upset about the flower being placed like feels like just bein contrarian