gameplay-discussion

[vagrant kayak]

Are you 100% sure they're facing the same way they are in the mural? I'm fairly certain one of those is facing out

[sly escarp]

They 100% used to have glowy stuff appear on the walls

[whole owl]

they're not going to "communicate" openly about development in a non-formal way because that opens them to promises or features that are not set in stone... It's kinda like saying "We'd love to make a flying two headed horse" becoming people going "Where's our two headed flying horse!?"

[vagrant kayak]

No this is the treasure room in the Glades that can spawn

Not the quest one

[sly escarp]

Ohhhh

Then yeah no it's just the murals

Sorry, didn't recognize the area!

[knotty meteor]

I got it

[vagrant kayak]

This is purely based on memory but I believe it should be ➡️ ⬆️

[knotty meteor]

it was the Garren Rood looking at me that was catching me

[vapid wren]

plenty of other pre-release games ive played have struck the balance between communicating "there is more to come" or "this system isnt working yet" and promising future content. its not hard to communicate more. soulframe doesnt do it rn.

[knotty meteor]

it was this thank you

thanks everyone for helping

moranite, was worth XD

[whole owl]

This is not how they operate, this is a 15+ years studio, they found a winning formula

[knotty meteor]

I'm a fan of their formula I just like this packaging better than pure Scifi

[whole owl]

Devstreams are a community bonding time where they share with the class what's cooking. They're probably not going to risk the asynchronous and unregulated release of information about development

[vapid wren]

again, just having a popup that communicates "this part of the game isnt here yet" isnt doing either of things

[whole owl]

Oh, sorry! I assumed people would understand the concept of "pre-alpha" out of the box lol

Idk, I think the game is going strong right now, it feels less like a tech demo than a year ago tbh.

[neat citrus]

good point lol

it's not hard to understand, at least for me

[whole owl]

(btw, I just re-read that and it sounds incredibly sarcastic, it wasn't)

[vapid wren]

again, loads of other game studios have managed to do pre-launch editions where they can gather more effective feedback because they are better at telling test players the intention behind design. it's frustrating for developers to to have to sift out feedback that is just requesting features that are already in the works. its like being told to do a house chore you're already doing.

[knotty moon]

There is the problem that saying that creates the expectation that it will eventually be.
That might work out when there is a strong vision of what the game will be and what the final systems needs to be developed.

This game has had a fair number of experimental system that were yanked out when they judged it didn't work out, so there is no real knowledge about what will be part of the game.
It could work, but it would also create expectations that will not necessarily be met.

[gentle lodge]

idk I dont normally play games like these and I was able to navigate everything fine? i really love what theyve done and think they are headed in a great direction

[halcyon thicket]

I'm totally for more guidance on how we should give feedback

[whole owl]

And again, this is not other developers... We have a #1438224662344761345 forum, they 1000% are active in reading and understanding what players want, and often times have acted upon the feedback with incredible turnaround times. I.e. Transmog monetization/functionality

[vapid wren]

for example, i come across a door in soulframe which seemed to open at only nighttime. i came back at nighttime. the door did not open. i have no idea if this is because the devs have not yet added something behind the door, if the door is bugged (which it was) or if i am attempting the wrong solution. my feedback on this would've been unhelpful and not relevant

[neat citrus]

was probably a dungeon exit

[vapid wren]

it wasnt. it was the main quest. and the door was bugged

[whole owl]

Now that's a solid point I've made myself a couple times. Not understanding the intended functionality of something and being unable to judge if it is working or bugged.

[neat citrus]

wdym "it was the main quest."? the door was the quest?

[vapid wren]

but see? without any in-game communication, test players are forced to bicker over an unknowable design intent and cannot give meaningful feedback.

[edgy sigil]

DE is known to throw everything at a wall and see what sticks. That's why I asked earlier if you played Warframe, because that's a theme park game with lots of disjointed systems but somehow has survived 15 years. your frustrations with alpha bugs isn't related with features being undeveloped

[whole owl]

For all intents and purposes, if you think something is bugged #1438224825113120788

[vapid wren]

yea. there's a bit where you have to open a door that only opens at night

[knotty moon]

Describing that kind of discomfort is good feedback btw.
It does indicate what is communicated well and what is not, which is important since they want to find the balance between not telling you anything and telling you too much.

[gentle lodge]

Anytime I ran into what I thought was a bug I just asked the community here with a quick screenshot or context and everyone here helped me 🙂

[vapid wren]

thats my entire point. if you've ever worked in any field that involves customer/user feedback, you know how important it is to stratify groups based on expectations. you can do some completely blind tests if you wish, but the most valuable feedback is coming from the people who understand the gap between Design Vision and Design Execution.

[whole owl]

This is not necessarily good btw. It is for you, in that moment, but bad for anyone that may run into the issue you had in the future.

[rose grove]

Is anyone able to help me figure out whats going wrong here, I'm running the Garren Roode Pact (currently level 18) and Royal Tines (Level 21) and I just seem to keep getting my shit rocked by groups of mobs from Level 15+ upwards, 2-3 hits and I'm down, but the problem is my short blades take so long to swing and even longer for heavy attacks, so if I get knocked to the ground or stun-locked I feel like I'm effectively already dead bcus I have to pop 3-4 potions to try and mitigate the initial burst of damage, leaving me only 1 potion left to sustain the fights themselves.

This doesn't feel correct? Or at least from what I've seen of other ppl on youtube/my friends, granted theyre all playing ranged weapon builds but they're easily able to do level 30-40+ content and are often times blazing through all the bosses with 0x issues, really struggling to understand the issue

[gentle lodge]

I think having a community to help you in a pre-alpha stage is great, if it needs to go further than that just add it to the bug tracking area and people can search for it

[digital path]

Joineries, runes, and totems

[edgy sigil]

what virtue do you have maxed? tines scale with spirit

[rose grove]

spirit 21 courage 5 grace 2 atm

[whole owl]

Yup, I'm well aware of that, the issue here is that the studio itself has it's own modus operandi and we really can't go "You REALLY should change that"

[whole owl]

I 1000% agree with you! Made a map and everything because of it! I just now know that it's a temporary fix for larger issues tha DE has to address before launch 😅

[edgy sigil]

do you have totems on your weapon?
are your pact to and combat arts skill tree points allocated?
does your armor have points in spirit?

[knotty moon]

You are a bit on the weak side for equipment.
That said my suggestion is to invest in the HP talent in the Pact, and maybe finding Motes and healing World Trees to get some account exp (gives extra Virtue points each level).

Try finding better armor, and/or defensive totems for survivability.

You might also want to consider trying other weapons, Short Blades moveset might just not mesh well with you.

[whole owl]

or you go into #looking-for-group and ask for some friendly support 👍

[rose grove]

im just using the tethren armour atm or w/e the starting one is called bcus atm I cant rlly afford or make any of the other armours - should I be trying to move away from the starter armour asap? No totems or runes atm, im only level 4 account level and I havent rlly found any effective way to quickly hit that up

skills are allocated though!

[edgy sigil]

nope I cleared the story fables in starting armor
please shove animals in your weapon, the totems give a nice bonus
from your tent, right click the weapon to apply totems

[digital path]

Totems are real easy to get, if you're grabbing animals in the open world you should have plenty by now

Although maybe not for you particular weapon type

[rose grove]

in general I find that melee is a rlly big struggle atm?

[sly escarp]

To be fair, most of these pre launches are beta tests, not pre-alpha. Different development stage. Alphas have systems being changed and reworked constantly, Betas need content validation and are missing content, not core systems.

[rose grove]

just getting grouped up on by mobs and due to the "2 shot" nature of everything above level 15 I just feel like I cant rlly progress any content w/ melee

[knotty moon]

For Totems, use Soul Mode + Attack on wild animals, they are fairly common, and you should be able to find some for your weapon type without much trouble by running around a bit.

[sly escarp]

It's the downside of them testing so early, everything's up in the air and nothing is clear, because the shape is still being found by the devs.

[knotty moon]

If all else fails sticking toward the center of the map should make it easier for you (the level of enemies raises when you go farther away).

[native wind]

is marrow's bane the same moveset/arts as vetch and wulder? just better scalin? (says it's a long blade)

[knotty moon]

Different moveset, shared with Stultin.

[sly escarp]

Same arts, diff moveset

[native wind]

oh ok. is igne mora the same moveset as vetch? trying to free up inventory space and deciding if i can sell my rank 30 vetch

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[vapid wren]

yea. imo theyve made the combat a bit too "realistic" where ranged weapons just dominated the battle field because it is objectively better to take out your enemies before they can reach you. so if ur melee fighting a group of enemies with any number of rangers its just sad. imo they need to lean into game-logic more and make melee more viable even if it wouldnt realistically be

[native wind]

from the numbers on wiki igne mora seems like it is pretty much the same stats (like 1 better damage than vetch). it's not worse than vetch, right?

[edgy sigil]

go for the archers and casters first

[rain tide]

Similar damage and slightly different smite chance. Is igne mora longer though?

[dusty mauve]

hi does bestiching only transform one armor into another or does it unlock the skin for all armor?

[edgy sigil]

unlocks it for everything, fashion frame away

[sly escarp]

It is!

[knotty moon]

I don't have updated data, but it used to be pretty much equivalent.
In any case Dewelion is eventually better than both iirc, though the heavies moveset is different.

[sly escarp]

It has a slightly longer hit range

[dusty mauve]

it changed or it was always like that?

[native wind]

oh ok. great to know. thank y'all!

[edgy sigil]

you can always change back to base look

[sly escarp]

Changed a couple hotfixes after it was introduced

[dusty mauve]

okok thank you 🙂

[sly escarp]

Due to player feedback

[lavish smelt]

where can i find my mail box? everytime i log in it says i have a message in the mail but i cant seem to find it in any ui

[sly escarp]

UI bug

Ignore it

[lavish smelt]

aha thanks

[native wind]

i don't see nettle at the blacksmith. if i sell mine, is there a way to get a new one (if i ever wanted it again)?

[knotty moon]

~~Gruul Seeker or ~~the Knight drops it iirc.
checks the wiki

[native wind]

haha my bad. thank you again

[knotty moon]

Kneel Knight drops it.

[marsh river]

i downloaded the game but

what am i supposed to do?

cus all the maps are empty

[knotty moon]

That should be the folder selection for the installation.

[marsh river]

aah tnx

works now

[wicked maple]

hey i have a question how long will we have to buy the founders pack when it releases please?

[vagrant kayak]

We don't have an exact timespan but multiple months at least, and you will be warned in advance before it ends

[knotty moon]

Multiple months.
Also will return for console releases so there will be more chances.

[sly escarp]

Unknown, but DE said they will give plenty of warning before it closes

[wicked maple]

thats a relief thankyou :]

also do we have a price for it please im gbp

[sly escarp]

$30 ish for the smaller packs

Unknown for Paragon

[wicked maple]

okie thankyou :]

[celest trout]

Was time of release for the pack tomorrow set or is that undisclosed still?

[knotty moon]

Most likely start of business hours in Canada.
But no outright confirmation other than tomorrow.

[mild mason]

Putting the weapon rune grind behind a singular boss that spawns once per 3 hours... Not the most masterful gambit by DE

[vagrant kayak]

It's a camel not a horse

[sand stump]

Not the greatest no, but there are bigger issues imo

[vagrant kayak]

P12 should come with some loot rebalancing so hopefully the grind for the new (and old) Runes is a bit better

[iron falcon]

You only need one of each anyway

[knotty moon]

For now, P12 will have more Runes.

[iron falcon]

There has to be some balance between "takes forever to grind" and "have everything in less than a week".

[knotty moon]

To be fair it does take about a week right now without focusing on it over much, though RNG gonna RNG so there are outliers.

(provided you had all pre-P11 stuff already)

[sand stump]

I am only locked behind faction swap timers

[neon meadow]

@sly escarp hey i did it, DE responded and i got my Sap Tap, aparently it was a bug. Now i can collect Wevetwood Sap again.

[rain tide]

Had a small outlier, got most things in a few weeks. Marrow's Bane took longer than any other weapon and Nimrod still stubbornly holds his rune

[sly escarp]

Hooray! Thanks for the update!

If anyone else loses it we now know it's a bug!

[neon meadow]

Yep Yep

[sand stump]

Well no wonder I couldnt pick up sap

[neon meadow]

Guys if you are missing sap tap in your inventory, make a support ticket, very important

[neon meadow]

I lost mine after Bromius quest, aparently its a bug so make a support ticket

[sand stump]

I shall

[knotty moon]

Not very important to be fair, unless there is some future use for it.

[sand stump]

(how)

[neon meadow]

Yeah both SapTap and WeverWood sap have no use (for now) but Support gave me one back so idk

[ripe token]

Why are they making it in p12 so you get less faction xp? Lol

[ripe token]

What is saptap?

[knotty moon]

Wut?
Where are you getting that info?

[sand stump]

I believe it is the opposite

[ripe token]

Some staff member in here claimed that istg

[sand stump]

💔

[knotty moon]

Can you point me at it?
Because that sound sus.
Also note that blue names are moderators, not staff, and, as far as I know, they know just as much as us.

[sly escarp]

Iirc they're reducing the XP needed for the early levels of faction rank ups is what they said? Could be misremembering though

[sly escarp]

Pretty much this

We have basically the same info as you guys.

[ripe token]

Oh ok that makes more sense

[terse falcon]

What can I do when body glow like this?

[edgy sigil]

party

[knotty moon]

As far as I know that's just a bug.

[digital path]

Just as I'm about to swap! Perfect

[full hearth]

[edgy sigil]

enclave offerings?
ode tempest at rank 4? :3

[pulsar cedar]

Is there any maps that show where all plants and flowers are located

[knotty moon]

Avakot.org's Wiki is your best bet.
Though keep in mind that precise location is random, so it is only good for general areas.

[normal sail]

they kinda spawn everywhere, but only a handful spawn in specific 'biomes'

[pulsar cedar]

Ah okay thank you I will check that out. The dyes are not easy lol

[twilit silo]

At least they have said they are bringing bosses to dungeons so that should help this problem. I think issues like this and the faction exp were just put in to prevent people from having nothing to do. Now they are adding more systems to the game they can scale back on some of the most painful grinds.

[mild mason]

That's good to hear. DE is one of the few companies that I can trust with actually improving player experience and the pain points, they've done remarkably well in that department with Warframe and they've been doing well so far with Soulframe

[smoky crater]

with P12 yeah

[knotty moon]

Remembers P9's Factions
They have improved a lot so far.
PTSD stare

[mild mason]

Yeah, I remember back in the P5 era, the last time I played before a few days ago - archery was very limited and the only bow in the game was hard to obtain. Now archery is one of the primary playstyles and it's fun enough for me, I haven't used a melee weapon even once since I've resumed playing the game

[solemn venture]

Good morning... Been out a little bit. Is the Bitas Eve event over?

[knotty moon]

It ends tomorrow.

[solemn venture]

Is there enough time to complete it between bow and then?

[knotty moon]

Should be, the seeds are much more plentiful now, and it looks to me like the fragment drops are also better.

[solemn venture]

Ok cool thanks for the info Envoy

[knotty moon]

You know of the mask location distribution?

[solemn venture]

Nope gonna look it up lol

[wheat lion]

hihihi

[solemn venture]

Hi

[wheat lion]

question, wyld sirin or wyld tethren?

[digital path]

Wasn't it originally 10k for the first level or something ridiculous

[solemn venture]

Up to you... Im getting the pack

[digital path]

Which pact do you like more? Personally I'm getting all three

[smoky crater]

nooo rankups have always been 5k, you just used to get 100 rep per tale at max at first

[wheat lion]

my gf wants me to go wyld oscelda but i need the stabby stab of wyld sirin lol

[solemn venture]

Lol

[digital path]

Oh Lord no

[mild mason]

I'm watching the last devstream and so many exciting changes coming. I wonder if the "Wylds" from the founder pack are gonna be founder exclusive or will they add a way to grind for those. In Warframe every Prime is grindable except the Excal Prime which was in a founder's pack

[digital path]

Tell your gf to pay for oscelda and you'll pay for sirin

Win win

[wheat lion]

like seriously the backstab is satisfying on gray health enemies

[digital path]

I still haven't tried the other two starter pacts, I started with oscelda

[pearl hill]

Im shocked that they rushed founders so quickly we wont even get a founders exclusive mount

[solemn venture]

Only the greatsword is exclusive with the ability to gift copies

[wheat lion]

oscelda mains rise up

[digital path]

I mean haven't preludes been a thing for over a year at this point?

[edgy sigil]

until they nerf it (if they even do), tethren is top tier level busted so if you like big damage I suggest it

[mild mason]

Yeah, I haven't tried any pacts other than Sirin myself either, need to get Oscelda at some point but it will require re-attuning my Grace gear and I don't have joineries for that so far

[digital path]

Just get the staff from Wazzard

Erstroot or whatever it's called, it's goated

[mild mason]

Hmm. I prefer bows over magic and swords, but magic will definitely be my second preferred weapon type if I ever get to it

[pearl hill]

Its been out for over a year but the game still needs to be fleshed out quite a bit. I figured they would've done founders at a state where most major systems have already be developed like mounts and such

[digital path]

Oscelda is just a really good pact for doing content above your level because of how much CC you get with your petrify. It basically lets you take every fight 1 on 1

And start every 1on1 with a huge amount of damage

[pearl hill]

Anyone know what time Founders will release

[mild mason]

It's been at least 2 years of Soulframe in preludes but that's because most of DE's team works on Warframe and only a small amount of staff are on Soulframe rn

[digital path]

It's also incredible for bossing

[edgy sigil]

my combo that carried me through all the fables was oscelda 1 + perfect throw tines

[digital path]

This but verdigris

Popping bosses for over 800 with a throwing dagger to the face never gets old

[edgy sigil]

oscelda 3 also opens up enemies for a nice short blade execute it's amazing

[digital path]

Max I've seen is 1100?

[edgy sigil]

cleric with cutlery 🔪

[digital path]

I honestly don't like the oscelda 3 very much

I think it needs to cc better or do more stagger

It currently doesn't do much of both

[iron nimbus]

What’s a good place to farm Scrap Steel?

[digital path]

Preferably more stagger since you already have cc covered elsewhere in the kit

[digital path]

Any of the castle weapon racks, or dungeons

All metal comes from weapon racks mainly

[deep dock]

I feel really weird playing now because I hit all these weird grandfather points for when I played but didn’t play a ton because I was worried about a wipe. Now I’m ready to full send and I’m basically starting with tempest and odiac fully ranked and nothing else lol

[edgy sigil]

my main gripe with oscelda is that the important skills are skill shots ughhhh

the amount of times I whiffed my birds and have to stare at the enemy while I wait for cooldown...

[digital path]

Skill issue, maybe join Faze next time

I'm joking, I also don't like how precise you have to be with it

Especially the 1, it has a REALLY weird arc

[edgy sigil]

no it's definitely skill issue lmao

that horse keeps running away

[past pasture]

I agree, i wish the bird had some sort of tracking

[edgy sigil]

it's a flock of birds! at least one of them gotta hit, right?

[knotty moon]

I think it had a splash before P11, or I was just better at aiming. 😛

[celest condor]

how good is SNS in this game?

[smoky crater]

sword and shield? i think they're fun and fairly good aswell

[arctic sinew]

would someone please be so kind and tell me where orengall's greaves fragments drop? the now locked discord server mentioned glades but i've run that and got absolutely nothing.

[wheat lion]

What attunement should I go with for Oscelda

[arctic sinew]

tyvm!

[mild mason]

Oscelda is spirit attuned

[half wagon]

hii i can't open chat >:3

[wheat lion]

lmao this heresy is just wrong. for reference my armor is basically going for an EMIYA type look

[digital path]

?

[wheat lion]

the oscelda arm

if pact arms could be recolored that would be nice

[normal sail]

oon™

pact colouring is on the radar, but no clue where it is on the radar's list

[edgy sigil]

tis a bug, relog :3

[rare seal]

anyone know whats supposed to go here?

[knotty moon]

Look in the upper part of the room, there should be a purple cork thingy.

[half talon]

Neaby is a water orb you need to bring to that spot

[rare seal]

omg i looked around that whole room except that side at the top XD

thanks haha

[mild mason]

This game's really funny sometimes. I was fighting the wraith of the wastes, it wasn't going that well at first, but then the Sinecure somehow from some place joined the fight and helped me beat the boss, they were great decoys/distractions. Unexpected allies in a time of need

Also I got the mage rune from that fight. Not sure if I should be mad at that since I need the bow rune or happy that I now have a good second option

[normal sail]

ive had the ode help with a fight only for their aggro to get focused on me meaning instead of a 7v1 its now a 1v7

[boreal dove]

i once "tamed" Mockeries to fight the Ode

[gentle mirage]

Is it compass o’clock yet? 🤣

[boreal dove]

about 24 more hours

[mild mason]

It's hilarious to see these fights happen and they're not that rare

[brave pebble]

are there spiders in enywhere else than in neanthus and close to the? i need the spiders silks but all i get are the eyes

[boreal dove]

yeah, plus Mockeries can't be killed by Ode since Ode can't soul-absorb

[iron temple]

Fort Kearnhold cemetery is my fave place to train them into each other... 😅

[snow verge]

I have a question, i know that the bond can be increased by crafting, i was asking if the level of bond is going to increase... aka is there going to be a new level past 3

[halcyon thicket]

we havent been given information about that

[knotty moon]

3 is max right now.

[iron temple]

I recommend underground door refresh farming or maybe even relog farming the eastern open world spider pit for spider resource farming... 😄

[snow verge]

oh i have another question, has any one had issue with the game being recognized by discord as anything, like streaming wise im having difficulty, but i have a monster of a gaming computer. but discord does not see it as a game. I know its still pre pre alpha, but wanted to see if anyone else is having this issue.

[halcyon thicket]

even when you add it from Activity tab?

[knotty moon]

Usually I just stream the screen, never had problems with that.

[brave pebble]

maybe i just have a really bad luck since the spiders don't drop anything 80% of the time

[white osprey]

absurdly excited for a compass too

[snow verge]

yes the full time compass is highly desired.

[iron temple]

You could try Sirin pickpocketing them if you dare... 😄

[brave pebble]

i can do that??

[iron temple]

yep... 😄

as far as I know.

[white osprey]

now where you pickpocket the spider silk from on the spider is a whole different story 🙂

[iron temple]

you can even pickpocket will-o-wings off of will-o-wings... 😄

[halcyon thicket]

oh the things pickpocket can do..

[knotty moon]

Eastern coast spider hole, there is a dungeon entrace that you can enter and exit to make them respawn as well.

[brave pebble]

do you mean the pit with the spider boss?

[iron temple]

I think they were meaning physically removing silk from them while alive implies stuff... 🤣

[knotty moon]

The other pit.

[hexed atlas]

Do we know roughly when the game will update tomorrow

[knotty moon]

Yeah, realized that on a reread, but oh well.

[halcyon thicket]

some time late afternoon maybe

[brave pebble]

there is a another pit? i only started playing in preludes 10 so im rather new

[halcyon thicket]

yes south east

[knotty moon]

Canadian afternoon?

[iron temple]

yep it looks similar on the map

[brave pebble]

oh, i havent been there yet at all

[iron temple]

just a shortish walk northeast of the fort kearnhold area! 😄

[brave pebble]

thjis might be a stupid question but is there a fast travel option?

[halcyon thicket]

tomorrow with the update

[brave pebble]

i have not found a way to do that yet

[iron temple]

there will be a way to use the world trees, to fast travel, using a resource tommorrow with preludes 12...

[proven saffron]

As you can see by the subtle glare it’s day time

[iron temple]

yeah the god ray bloom of the sun is so intense... 😅

I keep reforgetting that there are 2 suns... 😄

[craggy zephyr]

Discharged Nimrod is too stingy

[final temple]

how do iget a code to play

[halcyon thicket]

either wait for a stream with twitch drop, or get founders pack which will release tomorrow, will grant you extra codes aswell

[quiet quiver]

i'd take this over the jumpscare screenwide soul mode bloom during neath'uns run

[final temple]

when will there be a stream with a twitch drop

[halcyon thicket]

none announced atm

[proven saffron]

What?

[halcyon thicket]

follow playsoulframe on twitch and you'll get a notification when they're live

[final temple]

ok

[iron temple]

on tempest in a fog area it can get really intense... 😄

[quiet quiver]

yea i guess its ode tempest thing

[rose grove]

this is driving me crazy but does anyone know how to fix ur screen in soulframe sometimes layering on top of another image

it happens when I alt-tab and then the previous zone or etc. will stick on my screen

[knotty moon]

Did you try borderless?

[halcyon thicket]

nightfold fixes it

[rose grove]

haha yeah borderless fixes it

thank you so much that was driving me crazy

[quiet quiver]

do u have dynamic resolution enabled

[quiet quiver]

-# (waves into soul mode)

[knotty moon]

Flashbang.

[proven saffron]

Oh that didn’t happen to me. Weird

That’s in the waste bear area right?

[quiet quiver]

ode tempest + probably low volumetric fog setting making it interact with nearby volumetric lights

[rugged otter]

do the Neath'Uns "puzzle chests" that are supposed to drop Witan bits have a special appearance? I've solved a couple of the puzzles and all I saw are more of those sap pods with yet more dang mushrooms and dracs

[proven saffron]

Funny thing, DE games are like the only ones I have in windowed mode

[knotty moon]

Atm the Neath'uns chests are AWOL.

[quiet quiver]

there's puzzle chests?

[rugged otter]

allegedly

[quiet quiver]

i got my Witan purely from the knight up north

[knotty moon]

There are supposed to be, but there are none.

[boreal dove]

This is old info, where have you read this ?

[rugged otter]

p11 patch notes

i've been looking into how to get myself one of those things and wanted to double check

[brittle kindle]

How do boss shares work? I play with my wife and we killed a boss with her as team lead and then when we dropped team to kill it again it was already dead in my world.

[boreal dove]

I just looked at them this morning and that part was edited

[boreal dove]

They are on a 3 hour cooldown, if yours should be up it's usually a proximity bug. You spawn too close to spawning point. A relog and a walk back fixes it usually

[rugged otter]

ah, I had them open on the wiki and they missed the patch note... patch

[iron temple]

sometimes a nightfold flip is enough...

[boreal dove]

What I do is I will walk away before leaving the squad to try and make sure to not trigger the proximity thing

[brittle kindle]

Thanks, we’ll try that next time 😉

[stark nexus]

can anoyne point me to a place they spotted ore fire fungus spawning cause i legit went through the whole map and i cant find any

[boreal dove]

last time i found some was south east of the map. Like i was bordering the water but not that close.

i cannot guarantee anything tho because they might have hotfixed since.

[crimson sand]

Q: If a friend is farming Gathannan and their part of alcas children and im part of silent rose will I get parts or just the host

[knotty moon]

If they didn't change it, you will get Silent Rose loot table.

[crimson sand]

dang ok thank you though

[snow verge]

has any one ever been to a dungeon where there like two big cauldrons and mechanisms to move stuff around

[knotty moon]

Sounds like one of Dermark tiles.

[snow verge]

and then there is this water mill in the next room

is there anything to do in there?

if not it is a really cool tile.

[sly escarp]

Oh, the kitchen tile

There can be a hidden chest n the rafters

That's about it

[snow verge]

i could se stuff in the future with the brewer of hues.

[knotty moon]

The structure above the cauldrons sometimes has a chest, there is a box you can raise on the side with a lever to reach it.

[quiet quiver]

just this ig

[mystic slate]

[normal sail]

[patent summit]

[iron temple]

Sometimes there is a chest up there! 😄

[glacial current]

i just got the bow rune but my friend didnt? is that a thing?

[knotty moon]

As far as I know the rolls are individual, so yes that can happen.

[glacial current]

Damn

unlucky

2 down, in 2 days. on the hunt for the last one

[knotty moon]

6 months later

[iron temple]

after a week I got 2 runes on 1 day, on the same run, and the 3rd the next day! 😄

[quiet quiver]

which boss for magick/flyblade rune again

[glacial current]

wazzard i think

[solemn sequoia]

is there a way to delete/rename loadouts?

[knotty moon]

Rename yes, delete no.

[iron temple]

yes you can rename them

[solemn sequoia]

how do i go about that

[knotty moon]

There should be an icon on the drop down menu.

[solemn sequoia]

oh wait

the damn feather, literally never noticed it oh my god

thank you both lol

[fallow birch]

Guys: they add sieges in Prelude 12. Any info about them?

[solemn sequoia]

if i had to guess im gonna say sieges are like the fights you do to get to malrog

dont think theyve said much about em but i could also be blind

[knotty moon]

That is indeed the siege.
They said they were looking into making it longer, and maybe sneak in another one.

[fallow birch]

And then they said they will add some kind of monster camps?

[edgy sigil]

best bow build? I just got the rune. courage or grace?

[worn mica]

is there a way to get rid of these for a sleeping sprite puzzle?

[still sable]

Are the Wyld Pacts going to have the same abilities as the Non-Wyld versions, just buffed? Or new abilities?

[solemn sequoia]

if theyre like primes theyll just be the same abilities with some sort of stat change

maybe itll be as simple as +7 in whatever stats they give instead of +5, no idea

[final river]

is there an overall account level in soulframe like in warframe?

i cant find it if there is one. im trying to figure out if theres a point in leveling the basic version of one of the three schools if i plan on getting one of the founder packs since those include the "prime" version of the three basic classes

[neat citrus]

there is a mastery-like system yeah

each rank up gives you a virtue point to allocate

[final river]

i see ok so i should fully level everything. thank you for your help

[distant jungle]

Technically speaking Courage is objectively better cus you can use Orengall and double it to get really high charged shot damage.

As charged shots scale linearly past the normal scaling cap. Orengall + high Courage will be your biggest bow damage.

[neat citrus]

yessir, and no problem

[glacial current]

press escape and top left clikc on your name, that level is your MR basically.

[patent summit]

me tink u just gotta move da wight souwrce

[mild mason]

I hope they get rid of the 3 hour boss cooldowns in the next update

[worn mica]

yeah looking at it more there doesn't seem to be a mirror behind that, though the only other angle points it at a potted plant

[patent summit]

dere r puzzles wid moar den 1 path an dere also some where u gotta bweak obstacles, me dunno which owo

[neat citrus]

bro 😭

[silk vortex]

is there a way of getting access to the game now?

[patent summit]

tomowwow wid da founderz packs

[glacial current]

watch a devstream with a linked twitch account or buy a founder pack on 25th

[distant jungle]

Or wait for the wednesday raffle.

[silk vortex]

there wont be another devstream right?

[distant jungle]

There will be, just don't know when.

[patent summit]

at some point in da futuwre

[silk vortex]

ok thx

[mild mason]

DE's last devstream is the warframe one on 28th, then the next one in 2026

[glacial current]

Warframe dev stream. They might do another for soulframe before the year ends but i think thats very unlikely.

[solemn sequoia]

monkey paw curls. they remove 3 hour timer and add a 4 hour timer

[sly escarp]

They go back to the original plan of a 23 hour timer would be the real Monkey's Paw

[mild mason]

Wraith of Wastes boss fight drop RNG has treated me the best out of all. Got the mage rune and 1 erstroot fragment in the first fight and a second erstroot fragment in the second one and in both fights I had help from lvl 11-13 ode. I hope the other bosses treat me better soon

[fast wind]

meanwhile it took me 50+ kills to get the rune from the wraith and nearly as many from little nimrod.
Spider boss was my easy one. 1 kill and got the rune.

[digital path]

Everyone complaining about rune drops.

Meanwhile, me-

And I got another one today after taking this

[mellow ivy]

I was one of the lucky ones getting all three runes within 3 or 4 days. Im sorry for all those that are struggling like hell tryna get them to drop since p11.

[keen river]

it ended up taking me a little more than a week to eventually get all of them, but i also wasn't really focus-farming them

[pearl hill]

Where can you farm mockeries for their weapons?

[knotty moon]

Fort Kearnhold is a good place, once you killed the ones at the Crypt entrance relog and repeat, might need to Nightfold to make them spawn that way.

[pearl hill]

Ah I see alright

[low oar]

Anyone else find the grenades annoying and unfair? Let me explain. Ode by design are enemies that telegraph their attacks - most of them. Some of them even to such ridiculous degree that I block 5 time before they finally attack and of course hit me. But then all of the sudden swiftly and without any telegraph they just wave their hand and a grenade with very short fuse or two, that you can almost never dodge land at your feet. Its so jarring. I fight ode group and I dodge attack and try cast an abillity (in this case the blinding spell thing from sirin) and before the player character does this one action, ode soldier jumps back, throws grenade, it lands and explodes, within that one animation of the player. (and I die not casting sh*it). Its frustrating and I hope that in the future Ode will recieve some kind of pulling out, grenade and prepping to throw grenade animations in similar fasion most of other animations they have. Heavy, overacted, dramatic xD

[final river]

no the grenades are fun. we need more unique stuff like that to make combat more fun and interesting not less

[low oar]

please read more than first sentance

[distant jungle]

They're not saying to remove them, they're saying to make them telegraphed.

[knotty moon]

I never had problems dodging them tbh.

[final river]

they are fine lol

[distant jungle]

Which, tbh, I agree with, cus it's jank right now, especially with the occasional bug where one looks away and throws one through their own body.

So you just don't see it coming, and their fuse times are very short right now.

[final river]

huge glowing blue sphere. do you need a big neon sign?

[vagrant kayak]

I think the grenades are fine but I will agree that the casting animations locking you in is kind of annoying in combat

[knotty moon]

The fuse could stand to ba a tad longer.

[distant jungle]

Then they aren't a threat. I'd trade that for being slightly more telegraphed.

It achieves the same thing, but allows them to still threaten you when thrown.

[low oar]

No its about rythm of the game and timing, not about how visible they are - they are very well vssible but the issue is not visibillity

[distant jungle]

Hell, even a voiceline for chucking a grenade would be helpful so you know when one is being thrown from offscreen.

[low oar]

Yea sure, make them even more deadly, but make the anim fit the rest of the animations - is all I argue

[distant jungle]

Or when one is bugging out and facing away from you to throw in reverse.

[low oar]

I would even shorten some sword attacks, because sometimes they wind up so long they would be dead 4x in a duel.

but then theres the shadow spam of nades xD

[knotty moon]

Did you make a https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345 thread about it?

[low oar]

inconsistent - which is understandable - early access

[low oar]

Not yet

I wanted to see some opinions, but I will

[wheat lion]

i just solo'd a banneret while underleveled and all i have to say is i'm never doing that again.

[frail sierra]

GIVE NOT INTO COWARDICE!

[wheat lion]

lmao

figures i'd win sincee i am blasting thee Tri-Disaster's theme from FF16 on repeat

[grizzled depot]

Wonder if they will make totem/rune costs cheaper or more expensive tomorrow, dunno if I should grind tonight some dust

[solemn sequoia]

DE give greatswords rat 3 stars and my life is yours

[humble flume]

Mb yall, just wondering if somehow the Halloween mask event is still going on lol

[dusky tangle]

Until tomorrow! Go farm!

[humble flume]

Oh wow alright bet!

Hope I can get enough haha

[distant jungle]

You can knock it out in about half an hour.

[knotty moon]

You need the fragments and 250 seeds, the rest can be gained later.

[distant jungle]

Just wander around and whap scarecrows.

[humble flume]

Sounds good to do then

[grizzled depot]

1. Low level western area
2. North/Eastern area
3. South area

Scarecrows give different fragments per area

[humble flume]

Ayyy thank you guys so much!

[narrow jacinth]

exactly what I was about to ask for 😄 thanks!

[grizzled depot]

I always find that map so funny, like something Avakot would sell you as premium privileged info

[rigid dome]

Oooh greatswords tomorrow, I hope they'll be real chonky and impactful.

[solemn sequoia]

i wonder if these are the magic sidearms they mentioned or if theyre some other grip type. dont look like throwing daggers

[rigid dome]

Punching out lightning bolts, I could dig it.

[stable pivot]

what are the must have weapons for each stat?

[knotty moon]

The one you like, then slap a Blessed if you want to min-max a particular Virtue.

[stable pivot]

im just looking for the best attuned weapons like for eg. the starter staff is only one * attuned where as odiac is ** attuned in spirit so odiac is literally better than the starting staff

in that sense which weapons have the best attunement and base damage stat

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Weapons
You can find raw data here and compare.

[stable pivot]

kty

[knotty moon]

In that particular case Odiac caps lower giving you more flexibility, but if you do cap both they are equivalent.

[jade lotus]

is that bug

i fight him from there

just with sword

[knotty moon]

Looks like it.

[lavish smelt]

Anyone know the timing of the update tomorrow ?

Like time-zone wise

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
I expect business hours, Canadian time (ET).
When in that timeframe I have no idea.

[visual heron]

Eastern Time.

[graceful ledge]

Hey wanna double check, just helped a friend do the Bromius quest, when does the Wazzard world boss start spawning again?

It's tied to that right?

She wants its drops

[knotty moon]

Should start spawning as soon as the Fable is done.

Relog might fix it if he has not.
Or entering and exiting a dungeon.

[plucky junco]

i don't think the wazzard is a repeatable fight, but the wraith of wastes should have the same drops
unless i'm misremembering completely

[graceful ledge]

That's what he's called, right

[iron temple]

yeah that is how the avakot wiki puts it

[knotty moon]

I don't think Wezzard has drops at all.
Or at least I don't remember him dropping anything, Wraith does, which is what I assume was wanted.

[iron temple]

People still often call the wraith of the wastes wazzard anyway, lol... 😅

[knotty moon]

I know I do. 😛

[plucky junco]

either way, the wraith should be at a separate location to the wazzard fight i think, it's at sidae's stake around the south of the map

[jade lotus]

how to kill waste bear

with 10lvl pact and 5lvl igne mora

[iron temple]

yeah the north end of that corrupted area middle south.

[visual heron]

You shouldn't be going into a boss fight with those levels.

[knotty moon]

Uh, that might be a tad underleveled.

Might want to call for some backup in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440059025508143256.

[jade lotus]

i cant survive

when he is on 20% hp and he jump in

i cant dodge his abilities

[knotty moon]

You can invite me if you want help.

[jade lotus]

nick

[knotty moon]

Same as Discord.

[iron temple]

I think I Orengall courage Junipered that fight lol!... 😅

[wheat lion]

lol

[jade lotus]

you are not online dexell

[knotty moon]

Uh, I definitely am, did you type it correctly?

🤔
Might be case sensitive.

[craggy zephyr]

I need an Avokot plushy

[final river]

anyone have any idea how long it takes for resources to respawn?

im specifically looking to grab stuff from weapon racks for material

[knotty moon]

Someone mentioned 3 hours.
But you are much better off relogging or entering/exiting a dungeon to reload the map.

[final river]

oh i can just relogg and the material will refresh?????

that seems like an oversight lol

[craggy zephyr]

there is really no reason to do it. Materials are fairly evenly distributed. Besides rare stuff from chests you can usually grab what you need just exploring or running tales

[graceful ledge]

Yeah logging back in fixed it

[final river]

i mean eventually we will get farming routes for different resources but for now i just got an absolute shit ton of metals from weapon racks just doing this for like 12 minutes. finished resource gathering for 3 weapons just like that

[solemn sequoia]

if i sell a maxed weapon will my level go down or did they fix that

[distant jungle]

That doesn't and I don't think has ever happened.

Your MR will not go down from selling something.

[forest lagoon]

We keep our progress now right ?

[distant jungle]

There are no planned mandatory wipes.

Progress should be kept into the full game.

[forest lagoon]

sweet

[dire helm]

I think level with our blacksmith used to drop if we sold a crafted weapon in a prior prelude. I think that's what Ash is referencing.

[distant jungle]

Have no clue about that, I started in P10 and that wasn't a problem, so it's definitely been fixed.

[lusty hatch]

Hello Guys 🙂 Does anyone know the deployment time for the update, please?

[plucky junco]

nothing specific except for the 25th

[solemn sequoia]

i remember it being a bug in the past i was just unsure if it was ever fixed

[distant jungle]

We do not, the assumption is probably around 10 to 12 EST on the 25th. Maybe a bit later.

[solemn sequoia]

if its good now thats cool

[lusty hatch]

Thanx all 🙂

[plucky junco]

the old bug was about tuvalkane's rank going down if you sold a duplicate weapon i think, but i think that's a separate thing

or at least her "xp" going down

[solemn sequoia]

ah i see

[dire helm]

That was a problem in P8 or P9 I think. Should be fixed now.

[solemn venture]

Question. As long as I have the blueprints for the Bitas Eve masks I can craft them forever right? Like the event ends today but I can craft em like next week or something.

[distant jungle]

Yes.

[knotty moon]

Yep, you need the fragments and 250 seeds, the rest can be gained later.

[distant jungle]

Same as last year's event.

They won't remove the resources from your inventory.

You just won't be able to get more of them with the sources gone.

[solemn venture]

Got like 300 seeds. So good there. The other resources Im missing like the spider silk I think it is and whatever for the second mask plus the money. Im broke ha ha ha

[distant jungle]

Spiders will always be there, to the displeasure of some.

So you're good in that regard.

[knotty moon]

If you got Sirin the Silks are real easy to get in the eastern spider pit, just enter and exit the dungeon to respawn them.
You can do it without Sirin too, but RNG. 😛

You don't have to rush those though, they arn't going away.

[woven rose]

I just started playing, but I assume the event will return next year, bringing back the drops (+new stuff)

[distant jungle]

If you're already in-game it only takes about a half hour to complete.

The drops got roided out.

[normal sail]

and dracs aren't too hard to come by, just break every box and crate

[solemn venture]

Yea I know... Im just trying to not get too much exposure til tomorrow.

[normal sail]

fair

[woven rose]

I am missing just two mask fragments I guess - from the scarecrows only, right?

[knotty moon]

If you don't want to miss out, get the fragments by breaking the scarecrows in this zones until you have enough, and gather 250 seeds from the pumpkins.
After that you can set them aside and take your time.

[solemn venture]

Yea I skipped last update too so now its a decent catch up game lol

[fierce scaffold]

im only now realizing that the masks ive been finding are part of an event

i only joined a bit less than a week ago. i thought these were just funky items i can get

[knotty moon]

Happens. 😛

[dire helm]

I have 1330 seeds I just realized.

maybe someday I'll somehow farm enough spider's thread to make the last mask

[icy grotto]

im on the same boat with 550

[solemn venture]

Is it hard to get?

[knotty lava]

you'll get 'em pretty quick by doing the dungeon right near Weaver

[fierce scaffold]

are these blueprints going away once the event ends?

[knotty moon]

Nope, they'll stay.
You'll just not be able to get more of those (or seeds) after the event ends.

[fierce scaffold]

oh well i have 1k so i think im good lol

[dense sentinel]

do we know what the virtues do for the pact abilities? I've seen stuff on courage increasing damage and stuff but idk if that's true

[fierce scaffold]

everything so far is documented in the wiki, most things scale with virtues with some exceptions

[knotty moon]

Generally:
Courage = Damage Power
Spirit = Duration
Grace = Range
But for specifics you want to look them up in Avakot.org's wiki.

[fierce scaffold]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Pacts

each ability will have detials on what stat affects it, and how

[distant jungle]

Each one has its own formula yeah. Generally what Dexell said is true, though Courage seems to be more 'power' than simple 'damage'. It scales stuff like damage multis and gives one of Tempest's skills more total deflects.

[dense sentinel]

oh bet aight I'll go have a look. Thanks

oh yeah do the joineries that have a different attunement change the attunement of the weapon you forge it with?

[woven rose]

Is there a third mask I missed so far, or what is this talk about spider silk?

[tropic nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438223413247479960/1442680469668892722/Bitas_Eve_P11.jpg?ex=69265063&is=6924fee3&hm=abd9defa4c710f7aa6fb1818172769624979ea2107f996bf5a76ac3f8d020b46&

[plucky junco]

yep, the blessed ones will do that

[tropic nacelle]

There are three masks indeed, the map I just reposted are where you can get them by hitting the scarecrows there

[woven rose]

ohhh... I see, thank you

[rugged otter]

ooh, never noticed that, no wonder it took me so long to Zook up

[dire helm]

As an aside, I believe we only got the Crone mask last year.
That region also happens to be the only part of the map we had access to last year.

There were WALLS.

[old lagoon]

@dire helm are you good?

[dire helm]

No. Very bad. When I was born the doctor even said it.
That one is Bad to the Bone
*Guitar Riff

[old lagoon]

...

[rugged otter]

chat, weird question: very VERY early Ode Tempest used to have this third ability named Bolide that sent out what I'd describe as an unintentional flashbang that went off and exploded in someone's face. Did the devs ever talk about bringing it back in some form?

[old lagoon]

Doctor said one more thing

[dire helm]

Might have been the head nurse actually, can't remember, was only a wee lad at the time you know.

[knotty moon]

Well, you can get flashbanged by using Soul Sight in the Neath'uns apparently, but otherwise no.
We are getting a rebalancing pass on the Pact, probably with P12.

[old lagoon]

I know he said that one is going to be g*y🤣

[rugged otter]

a rebalancing doesn't surprise me, they really did give it better mesmer skin

but bolide was kind of a funky ability

[dire helm]

I miss the pact ultimate abilities -- I hope those make a comeback

[rugged otter]

lots of damage, very long casting time, then it went off, murdered something and hit you with a huge flash of light

[dire helm]

Ode Tempest had basically a machine gun or some such if I remember right.

[knotty moon]

The shoulder cannon?

[dire helm]

yeah that

[rugged otter]

yup, you'd just get this arcing lightning where you held the attack button and kept zapping some poor bugger

still didn't beat the Fey bow that could one-shot the Vadagar Stag

[dire helm]

yeah, that was bonkers

-# I miss fey pact...

[old lagoon]

In Fortnite or valorent?

[rugged otter]

Oscelda's a fine successor

[dire helm]

Neither.

[rugged otter]

It's actually closer to the initial Preludes fey pact

[dire helm]

I'm a millenial. I'm too old for either of those games. 🤣

[rugged otter]

they didn't swap the heal for invisibility until a good few versions in

[old lagoon]

I am Z

[old lagoon]

Or may be alpha I don't care

[dire helm]

I like Oscelda well enough. I picked it when we got prompted to choose a faction/re-starter weapon/pact

Got me stuck slaving for the avacados.

Those little Guacamole Guys got me workin' dawn to dusk.

But they're a'ight. Almost got enough standing for a shimmer so I can escape.

-# haven't been prioritizing it, so it's amazing it's happening at all rly

[stuck folio]

I like the idea of a Reputation system for (Shares and bounties). Like you get +3 from sharring and a -1 from tanking a boss so in the end you have a +1 , and for bounties you get a flat +1

so that way we know who is a good share and who is a filth Leach

[fierce crest]

How much is the most expensive founders?

Also, I'm hoping they implement titles like Warframe did

[knotty moon]

Unknown.
Less than the most expansive founder was for WF (250$).

[full hearth]

Kinda need profiles first

[sick lava]

This may be a stupid question - but I had to create a new account on Soulframe website with the same email I used for my Warframe account. Is there any way to link these two accounts, or are they supposed to be separate

[knotty moon]

I'm sure we can convince Orlick to write our chronicle. 😛
This time he can even cite sources!

[full hearth]

I sure hope so

[knotty moon]

They are supposed to be separate.

[sick lava]

That would make sense! Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing anything

[median perch]

I wonder how Wylds will be obtained? (other than the ones from Founders)

[full hearth]

They mentioned a ritual of some sort but didn't go into detail.

Will be a while until we see it in-game, probably.

[median perch]

ooouuuuuu, sounds fun!

[dreamy plume]

hey folks, any chance we'll have dual daggers (dual wielding) anytime soon?

[knotty moon]

Short Blades (main weapon variation) are already in the game.

[mellow sleet]

Ok wait can someone tell me whats coming in tmrs update?

[dreamy plume]

Yeah, I would love to see off-hand support 😢

[knotty moon]

Greatswords, longer siege, infamy system, walls, Cogah (hard mode), Foundres.
That's off the top of my head.

[dreamy plume]

so no off-hand support yet for daggers/short blades aaaaaaah 😢

[knotty moon]

There is a single dagger type secondary.

[dreamy plume]

what?

really?

Oh! I see

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Nettle

That one you get for free when getting the blacksmith, and there are three others.

[dreamy plume]

can I pair it with some dagger-like weapon in my main hand?

[knotty moon]

Yep, you can use the splitblades as main and this as secondary.

[dreamy plume]

Dexell you made my day!!!

[knotty moon]

#soulframe-news message
I forgot about Fast Travel and the tutorials. 😛

[full hearth]

And Infamy is more of a later Prelude system

[knotty moon]

Isn't it for the whole occupation thingy?

[paper cargo]

Yep, looking forward to that especially

[knotty moon]

Grand Theft Bisulcam.

[tardy heath]

Is there a guide on getting The Masks?

[knotty moon]

Get the fragments from scarecrows, get 250 seeds, the rest can be gained later. (you only have time until P12 tomorrow)

[full hearth]

What mask drops from scarecrows is determined by its location

[tardy heath]

This map isn't helpful when I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for

ok so scarecrows

can I get all 3 masks?

[lament cloak]

scarecrows. end them in those areas for the various masks

[full hearth]

Yes which is why i was writing out what to do

[tardy heath]

my bags

[tardy heath]

what are "seeds"

[full hearth]

You need scarecrows for the fragments and you also need wintersquash seeds

Blue pumpkins essentially, break them.

[knotty moon]

When you smash pumpkins or scarcrows you get a few.
For all three mask you need 250 total.

[lament cloak]

purple pumpkins and scarecrows will give ya seeds

[distant jungle]

The drops are high enough that you'll probably get all you need from scarecrows.

[mellow sleet]

Im gonna need my guts dragon slayer sword at some point🙏🏿

[tardy heath]

Alright I shall kill.

[distant jungle]

Though the squash also give seeds.

[full hearth]

Scarecrows can drop seeds too but pumpkins will drop a bunch always.

[distant jungle]

I think the amount is the same across scarecrows and wintersquash.

[full hearth]

And unlike with scarecrows, you don't need to go and collect the drops

[mellow sleet]

I almost have 800 seeds

[distant jungle]

I've gotten 5-8 from both.

[dreamy plume]

@knotty moon in terms of completness, how much is the game today? I mean, how much % can we consider it done to the release version? I'm asking it cuz I am really interested to invest my time one it, but not sure if I want to dive deep into something that will ends in terms of content fast. Don't need to have a precise answer, just something in your mind that makes sense

[full hearth]

You can break them from a mile away and the seeds are given to you.

[distant jungle]

It's a pre-alpha, the main point is to test content, not consume it.

If you purely want to consume it, I'd wait until release, which is probably about a year away-ish.

As they said they were hopeful for sometime next year.

[full hearth]

I was more referring to the fact that pumpkins always drop them. Scarecrows only have a (high) chance.

[knotty moon]

Really depends what they want to ship with.
With the assumption that Midrath is the only thing it will release with, I'd say a polished 30%, and with about 50% of the frameworks.

Highly speculative ofc.

[full hearth]

But yeah you're generally fine just with scarecrows

[dreamy plume]

man, the pre-alpha games I tested in the past was not at this state hahahhahaah Trust me, this is ready to consume with moderation, I mean hahaha That's why I am asking the % of current state of development, so I can align expectations... Is it near to 0% of completeness, 50%, 75%, 90%??

[lament cloak]

also depends on what you consider complete. for example warframe is ever evolving much like this game likely will. so that percentage bar will always be floating

[dreamy plume]

joking @distant jungle I agree with you, but well, is there a % number ?

[dreamy plume]

okoko that's enough!!! thanks m8

[distant jungle]

Tbh, funny names aside, Warframe has long been fully released, it's just live service and thus adds new stuff occasionally.

Calling it unfinished is a bit inaccurate, notwithstanding the funny beta label.

[knotty moon]

Do keep in mind that those numbers are something I made up, not indicative of what DE is actually doing.

[grizzled depot]

are rarer animals more common in the map's edges?

as in 5 flower gold variants

[dreamy plume]

I am expecting something aligned with initial plan for the game...Yeah, there are so much mistery hahaha I am just anxious to play it asap, but well, for now, my mindset needs to be more as a tester 😢 As someone coming from Ashes of Creation testing, I am really orphan of finished games these days.

[lament cloak]

lol i wasnt saying unfinished, just that todays complete, and complete by the end of december are two different metrics

[knotty moon]

I have strong suspicions that some zones have higher rare animals spawns, like the river near Kith of Kings HQ.

[tardy heath]

what does charming animals do

[grizzled depot]

yeah kinda want another rare squirrel xD so I was wondering, also good dust grind

[knotty moon]

Gives you Totems (weapons upgrades), and Harmony (to upgrade Totems).

[lament cloak]

at this point, it is closer to a completed game than what ya might see some aaa studios have on release lol

[tardy heath]

neat

[dreamy plume]

fair point, so Soulframe is ready to play, with caveats hahaha

[grizzled depot]

you also need Harmony dust to upgrade Runes btw, a mountain of it

[lament cloak]

you steal their souls

[dreamy plume]

man... I need to agree with this.... hahahhahahha

[full hearth]

35k each

[knotty moon]

Ready to play absolutely, and it is a good game.
But it is not content rich, and some stuff is just frameworks to be filled later.

[vast forum]

how do you get orengalls armor

[worn hawk]

This is a very solid pre-alpha, I have seen some alphas that weren’t half as good as this.

[full hearth]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Orengall_(Set)

[knotty moon]

I have seen released games that are not half as good. 😛

[sick lava]

Any idea what time we expect the Founders Packs to drop?

[dreamy plume]

btw, can you guys clarify what exactly be a Founder means? As you can see, I am not an English-native, but well, so far I understood we'll kind of have our names in some place, right? Is there more perks associated? I read the announcement, just want to know if you guys have some additional info... I am not used to DE games, so not sure what to expect about it. But I am wiling to support this game.

[full hearth]

Basically bundles you can purchase to support the development of a game in its early days.

[lament cloak]

Founder in this case means early supporter. The team has some exclusives and some things thay wont be available to others for some time to give you value for your support

[dreamy plume]

"early days" ... I can't accept this ahha this game is amazing. Can't imagine the "last days" hehe it will be fantastic haha

[sick lava]

Did you guys pick a unique Envoy name, or did you go with what is usually your gamertag

[knotty moon]

Also they come with access to the game if you are not already in.

[full hearth]

Mine is very unique, atleast. Original, too.

[lament cloak]

i was changing my usernames across the board when i was signing up for this game, so kinda both

not that its original lol

[sick lava]

I like it lol

[dreamy plume]

mine is Teb, but the nickname needs a minimum of four characters hahahha

[sick lava]

Not that it’s all that serious, but I’m unsure if I want to choose a unique character name, or just go with my standard username which happens to also be my discord username

I wonder if the name shown on flowers or the crafted founders great swords will change as users change their envoy names

[lament cloak]

Well that really depends on what it means to ya. In matters of taste such as that, follow your instincts

[distant jungle]

I went with my usual.

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
It should, but then again someone mentioned the World Tree bulletin board names were not changed.
Might be a bug though.

[somber heart]

hello everyone. Quick question, I am in a grave near the castle to the northwest of the map, I find myself facing a secret door that seems to activate with glass panels (?). But I don’t understand what I have to do. Any ideas please?

[knotty moon]

Screenshot?

[somber heart]

one of the panel are one the statu

the statue doesn’t react anymore when I throw my weapon at it.

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade#Circade_Armour_Set

[somber heart]

Nice thank you !!

[grizzled depot]

I am definitely getting quite a bit of rare animals doing a MissingNo going through the east part of the map up and down so far

no squirrel rare tho <_<

[merry pecan]

Are these weapon skins or weapons thats coming with the pack?

[knotty moon]

Fairly sure those are weapons outright, at least the sidearm near the staff has no current counterpart.

[lament cloak]

full weapons yes

weapon skins do not exist for the game at this time, and based on how bestiching is used, they will likely remain as fully weapons rather than skins

[dire helm]

Looks like flyblades with a long blade, Short blade with a bow, and a something new with the staff.

Could it be that fist magic weapons are going to become a secondary weapon type?

[pseudo crane]

anyone know a good spot to collect fire fungus

[dire helm]

Because it makes me think of the odiac, but it would be weird to not get a set to use together.

[barren escarp]

that long blade is actually a greatsword, and the small things next to the staff are voltaic weps

[lament cloak]

i thought the greatsword was the paragon sword, didnt think the base ones came with a greatsword

[barren escarp]

yeah theres going to be 3 greatswords that red one is the one that Pothia used

[distant jungle]

Thought that was just a Long Blade.

Is the Tethren primary another greatsword?

[split herald]

goodday Envoys

Founder's pack available in SEA?

[barren escarp]

yeah i think yall might be right

its looked big asl so but i think its just a really long, long blade lol

[split herald]

for Bog and myrtle, should I use Gildaur blessed by saphene or mora?

[barren escarp]

Gildaur is universal

[knotty moon]

Your choice, depends on which Virtue you want it on.
If you don't want to change Virtue, Polished has the same stats.

[split herald]

what does this weapon scale on?

does it need life steal?

[barren escarp]

Grace

[barren escarp]

do you know what life steal is?

[grizzled depot]

finally, another rare squirrel, indeed further from center

[split herald]

is per basic attack you get a certain % of life?

[barren escarp]

yeah

[grizzled depot]

yes life steal is recovery of damage on that %

apparently nerfed tomorrow when in cogah mode

[barren escarp]

oh shit thats gonna be fun

[split herald]

oof. everything being nerfed

can't wait for Founder's T_T

[grizzled depot]

I hope crafting cogah isnt annoying

did they show the recipe?

[barren escarp]

the shroom drop from bosses..

[barren escarp]

i dont think they showed that

[grizzled depot]

no please dont make us get mushrooms from a boss then have to wait 3 hours for them to reapper x_x

[fierce scaffold]

it might be a material we already have

i have so many herbs and mushrooms and stuff i dont use for anything

[grizzled depot]

idk i find kinda annoying that cloud potion recipe, i barely find yellow flowers

[barren escarp]

no the item for the cogah is from a mushroom that you have to then craft the cogah drink from Verminia

[grizzled depot]

...or purple ones for that matter

[fierce scaffold]

yeah thats what i mean

is it a mushroom that is alraedy in the game?

[barren escarp]

no its not

[fierce scaffold]

ah

[barren escarp]

its a new thing coming in P12 that drop from subbosses called Agari mushrooms

you then make the cogah drink from the shrooms

[grizzled depot]

"sub bosses"? so any faction tale?

[barren escarp]

no bro sub-bosses and FT are 2 different things lol

[grizzled depot]

but they end up in bosses that arent too important, like Bannerets

what are sub bosses then <_>

[barren escarp]

right those aren't sub-bosses

[fierce scaffold]

to my knowledge, theres just a boss. if it has its own big healthbar, thats a boss

[barren escarp]

yep

[fierce scaffold]

oh so all world bosses

[barren escarp]

world-boss, sub-boss, Agari all the same shit

[grizzled depot]

no god please no, no, no

its going to be waiting 3 hours for 3 hours ugh

[barren escarp]

you can join someone elses session

[grizzled depot]

so even less solo friendly

[barren escarp]

you can join someone elses session bypassing the wait or wait 3 hrs up to you..

[grizzled depot]

tbf most likely people will ask for others to join

but then again... if they craft the cogah, then their own world doesnt have bosses

unless only one singular mushroom is needed

we will see tomorrow <_>

[native wind]

do both alca's and rose get ode's tempest? think i got everything for kith of kings and was thinking i'd switch to alca's but not sure now if that is true (wiki says so)

[full hearth]

Yes their Rank 5 pact is currently shared.

We don't know for how long that is though - Eventually you might want to reach R5 on both. Just to play it safe.

[barren escarp]

yes only one person need to drink the cogah for the squad

[native wind]

ok. i'm debating which i want since i want ode tempest but i may hold off on making the talisman until tomorrow's update in case they mess with it (doubt they would but who knows). guessing just preference then?

[grizzled depot]

right what I had a problem with is how many bosses you will need to remove before a cogah attempt, so if you remove bosses and intend to invite people, your world might have less bosses to run

(and obviously annoying for solo people)

[tardy heath]

One more Zook fragment and I will have all the helmets :D

[full hearth]

Well they did say they'd look at the faction stores and make them more.. Smart.

[grizzled depot]

then again, it might be only a problem for the FIRST time if you also get mushrooms from defeating cogah bosses and autorefills

[full hearth]

So expect changes in offerings, unlikely that they will drop us a whole new pact in either store, though.

[native wind]

haha good call. most rewards are terrible

good to know. i may farm up 3k more rep with kith now to just have both crafting

and maybe be able to buy new rewards in kith shop

[tacit python]

Ummm I think I soft locked myself because I’m on the mission where you gotta free the cubs from the cages in the beginning but nothing is dropping the keys for the first one

[plucky junco]

a lot of people have reported the same thing happening, unfortunately

you might just have to relog to try again and hope it works

[tacit python]

Ahh ok so it’s a known thing that people have been able to fix?

So I’m not soft locked

[plucky junco]

some people have been stuck for a while, but i think most people managed to get through it eventually

[final rock]

whos ready to burn money in (possibly) a few minutes? :D

[tacit python]

Okok so just to clarify, to restart the quest I would have to relog? Or is there an abandon quest button

[half vale]

i'd suggest exit and restart game, then check to make sure the fable is active

[tacit python]

Great, thank you guys!

[grizzled depot]

tends to be at warframe update times afaik so still 12 hours to go?

[final rock]

guess my money is spared for a bit longer

[crude lintel]

hey its 25th now, how can t i buy the founders pack? it's not showing on the website

[knotty moon]

At least wait for Canadian business hours. ^^

[sand stump]

it's finna be the 26th for me soon

the humble time zone

[crude lintel]

9 more hours 🥹

[knotty moon]

We likely will get it at the same time as the patch, so keeping an eye on https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1153116764633321534 should signal when it is available.
(no, I'm not refreshing the page every thirty minutes, what makes you think that? )

[digital fog]

where do i get Crone's mask?
already got Zook and Poppa. gotta get her before tomorrw

[digital fog]

thousand blessings upon you

alrighty, got all the masks

[knotty moon]

Got 250 seeds as well?

[coarse flint]

I think the seeds arent a problem, cause the pumpkins are everywhere 🙂

the question is, do you think they will remove the pumpkins after this event, or can we maybe use seeds for other stuff later on?! 🤔

[full hearth]

If they do it like last year, both the pumpkins and scarecrows will stop spawning.

[coarse flint]

ah ok, that the scarecrows have to go makes sence for me, wassnt sure about the pumpkins, missed the event last time

[visual radish]

Seasonal events usually end up returning yearly, granted the usual pre alpha leeway

[coarse flint]

ok.... but I really like the pumpkins 😄

what do you guys think, when will the update goes live?

I'm stuck at home sick and video games would be the perfect distraction 😄 😄 😄

[grizzled depot]

no i do not like the pumpkins making me think i found an animal to charm :x

but yeah update will most likely live in 12 hours

[ionic cloud]

How many weapon slots do we start with?

[knotty moon]

6 iirc.
But the number is under review for P12 as far as we know.

[grizzled depot]

wow, twice squirreled rod is indeed a machine gun

[digital fog]

a little more than that

[slow delta]

When you switch factions do you keep the rank of the previous faction so if I was Alca and went rose when I go to alca would I be a five still

[knotty moon]

Yes, both rank and current rep.

[digital fog]

just gotta wait a week until you can join another faction

[edgy sigil]

I accidentally upgraded my archstorm rune to t3 soooo..... any odiac builds?

[coarse flint]

12 hours? thats long... its almost the 26th for me 😄 🙁

[edgy sigil]

how do I proc smite consistently

[knotty moon]

Slap a Feybalt on it, watch it melt stuff.

[edgy sigil]

feybalt still eludes me unfortunately

[coarse flint]

its a proc chance, and if I got it correct, you can get it once for enemy?!
best way to proc it is the rain arrow from the bow

[knotty moon]

Use Squirrels on Utility slot.
Though it always gonna be a chance.

[edgy sigil]

thanks I'll try that

I'm halfway through Alca rank 4 so tempest is close too

[coarse flint]

orengall 3 raises your smite chance too if Iam correct

[edgy sigil]

courage odiac with Orengall? hmmm

[coarse flint]

sounds interesting, bet you can make it 🙂

the caster weapons are the only once I havent test in super detail 😄

but their attack speed is good, so they should work fine with smite 🤔

[glacial current]

Any ETA on founders?

[plucky junco]

nothing specific yet, except some time on the 25th

[coarse flint]

cause the founders pack is on their homepage I really hoped it was the 25th 0:00am 😄

[edgy sigil]

they're not a AAA studio they don't do midnight releases

[coarse flint]

good old times, when stuff released at 0 😄

[digital path]

Bruh I just logged in an there's several hundred river pearls missing

Wtf?

[coarse flint]

that sounds bad

I hate farming those pearls

[digital path]

Yeah I had like 2-300 and now I have 3

Ugh

I mean it's not that bad, the bosses drop river pearls and so do dendrit chests

That was just like a week worth of casual pearl drops gone

[edgy sigil]

they bring it back just file a ticket

[lusty hatch]

Me too, for the crypt keys, it's the villainous Soulthief.

I suspect that deceitful Avakot 🤔

[fierce scaffold]

im having trouble connecting my controller, its connected but soulframe does not detect it

[coarse flint]

xbox controller?

playin window mode?

[fierce scaffold]

borderless windowed mode

and using a ps4 controller

[coarse flint]

I have the problem sometimes too, if switching "windows" on my pc...

[fierce scaffold]

oh i cant get it to work at all

like its not toggling on and off, its never worked

[coarse flint]

if I click with the mouse on soulframe window I have to use the mouse ingame (looking arround/attack etc) a few times and than i can just use the controller

[dire night]

use steam controller config, if you are not. should just work automatically

[fierce scaffold]

steam controller mode worked, ty

[pine coyote]

what time are the founders packs dropping tomorrow I gotta know

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21454125

[lusty hatch]

Does anyone have information on how long the founder's packs will be available for purchase? Have they mentioned it?

[edgy sigil]

months

[dusty mauve]

anyone know if we will be able to farm wyld items this patch or if it will come in a later update?

[lusty hatch]

So, the end of December and that's it?

[glacial current]

Several months. But less than a year.

[edgy sigil]

they'll give ample announcement when it's gonna end but we don't have a definite answer

[grizzled depot]

also when it releases on consoles there will be more chances for Founder btw on those systems

[visual radish]

Btw they have a founders faq video on their official channel

[lusty hatch]

Thanx for answer guys 🙂

[vernal lotus]

How can I find anything in this game? At a certain point, my quests disappeared. I can't find any equipment and I have nothing. Everyone is one-shotting me. My last quest was to talk to Lady Deora.

[plucky junco]

there aren't too many fables in the game right now, and it doesn't guide you to them directly so you might have to wander around until you stumble onto one

otherwise, you can look up a guide to see which ones you're missing

[crude lintel]

I heard the will implement regional pricing for the founders pack?

few more hours

[charred fossil]

This has probably been asked, but I saw that older Preludes accounts have fewer weapon/pact slots than newer ones. Will this ever be rectified?

[shut stratus]

They said they will do somethin as of today, we will see though

[plucky junco]

i think it's the other way around - newer accounts have less slots than older ones

[shut stratus]

and other way around, yes

[charred fossil]

Sweet, thank you. 🧡

[young ingot]

40% is a lot but we definetly deserve a nice discount compare to USD value rn

[long pine]

hi mates, when will the patch drop

[plucky junco]

some time when it's the the 25th in canada, but we don't have anything more specific than that yet

[young ingot]

ohhh canadian dollar, i did not understand that mb gangy, yeah fr then there must be a huge discount

i didn't know that thanks for letting me know

[shut stratus]

definitely wont buy if its full price, I am not willing to pay nearly 50% more as good-will

[young ingot]

do you think their will be a multiplayer mode ?

[plucky junco]

for soulframe? it already has multiplayer

you do need to invite people into your party manually though

[young ingot]

ohh okay thanks ^^, i was wondering if beta / alpha testers could flex any reward from those test in public

[tall meteor]

My wallet is ready for Founders

[somber heart]

Hello everyone, tell me, did you have any advice for the Vadagar Stag? I think it’s a real pain to face this thing...

[bold dove]

WHAT TIME IS THE NEW PATCH FOR THE FOUNDER PACK? xD

[plucky junco]

some time in the next day or so, hopefully, but we don't have a specific timeframe

[upbeat eagle]

how do i get the joinery that changes the attunement?

[vagrant kayak]

Kill high level sub-bosses and they can drop it

[upbeat eagle]

whats the name of it?

whats the stats?

[vagrant kayak]

It's any of the normal 4 Joineries but the name will be Blessed by Mora/Sapphene/Iridis

It has the same buffs as Polished joineries but will also change your weapon's atuned Virtue

[upbeat eagle]

polished joineries are the purple red green blue ones?

[vagrant kayak]

They're all red, green, blue and purple, just at different levels of rarity/power

Verite is the red joinery, it goes on melee weapons, it comes in Rusted, Tempered, Polished and Blessed variants

Same for the other colors

[upbeat eagle]

wait so they removed the old joineries?

[plucky junco]

the old joineries are still there if you had any, but they aren't really worth using now, i think

[vagrant kayak]

All the old Joineries are deprecated yes, even the weakest of the new ones are stronger than they ever were in any case

[verbal meadow]

Bow or throw things at it is most effective for me atleast 😄 its kinda hard times to try mielee it if its not stunned

[upbeat eagle]

hmm, so blessed joineries are just the new joineries at their max form right?

at polished joineries

[fierce scaffold]

strength bow time :3c

[somber heart]

it’s going to be fun...

[fierce scaffold]

PSA, the "helmet toggle" emote lets you get rid of the weird face mask on this hat

[lament hearth]

i can't find a time when the next prelude hits. Anyone knows?

[ionic cloud]

i heard in like 7.5 hours... so soon™

no clue if that person knew anything though

[lament hearth]

Wrong spot my waiting resistence is negative ^^

[vagrant kayak]

They don't, there is no specific time given beyond the 25th

[mellow python]

That's the time when DE usually releases major updates - it would be solid estimate for a warframe release, but soulframe hasn't been as predictable so far, so it's a likely time, but not certain

It's unlikely to be significantly earlier, given working hours and all that

[vast marten]

Is orengall spirit or grace focused?

[lavish smelt]

can precklies drop on kill or does it have to be pickpocket from that one pact?

[woven rose]

one or twice some little sparkly... amulet, I guess, dropped from an enemy but then just vanished after a few seconds. Is that a mechanic I just don't have the level for, yet?

[halcyon thicket]

Old item for an old mechanic

[woven rose]

also I might have done things a little bit out of order, exploring the map and so on. I followed a rat only to stand in front of a little shrine I could not interact with - guess I should go to the stag first

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[distant jungle]

Strongest on a Courage build generally, but it's Spirit-aligned in that being the +5 to virtues it gives, if that's what you mean.

[vast marten]

Thx for the info

For the crystal puzzle in the crypt, if you messed up the hit order, you can try it again without exiting the crypt first, right?

[digital path]

Yes

[pine quest]

What time will they release the founders in Brazil/Argentina?

[vagrant kayak]

At:

There's no specific time planned for the update, just some time today

[neat citrus]

it will release sometime today, probably between 11AM and 4PM EST

[distant jungle]

It'll be a global release, not staggered, as far as I know at least.

Probably around 9-14 hours from now.

Pretty much what v said actually lol.

[charred fossil]

There are emotes?

[digital path]

Hold x, right click

Idk what it is on controller

[charred fossil]

How about that, thanks

[inner pagoda]

I’ve only played with m&k so far , how does the game feel on controller ?

[ancient fox]

I love it on controller

I also thing it down then like r1 for emotes

I do find myself using r1 instead of l2 to use soulmode/abilities because of warframe though

[coarse flint]

I think controller feels pretty good, but I had to optimize the button layout

[neat citrus]

same here, I swapped block and soul mode then it felt good to me

[coarse flint]

and emotes on gampad are hold down on the dpad and than switch with RB/R1 to the right side... I dont think I changed that 😄

so you have block on L2/LT ?

[neat citrus]

yeah I think so
I don't play on controller much though

[coarse flint]

the button most games use for aiming or brake? 😄

[humble flume]

Oh nice I didn’t know the game had controller support already

[solemn sequoia]

god the mockeries have been stingy all day today wagghhhh

all i need is one fragment PLEASSSEEEE

[sand stump]

I havent seen a precklies fragment in days...

the regret of selling them before I knew piles up yet further

[charred fossil]

I haven't ever seen a secondary weapon fragment

[cursive dawn]

Where is the founders pack !?!?!

[sand stump]

patience

[charred fossil]

the devs are sleeping, dude.

[digital path]

whenistheupdatewhencanibuyfoundershowmuchisfoundersdoigetfoundersweaponswhereispatchnotescanigetafriendcode?

[cursive dawn]

Do you have a space button? 😄

[distant jungle]

May be in 6 hours, may be in more, some time today.

Keep in mind that DE is on EST.