#gameplay-discussion
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What do arrows stuck in the enemies do? Is there a mechanic hidden in there?
They explode if you hit them (or near enough) with a charged attack.
in the arrow skill tree u can shoot a fully charged shot to detonate arrows around where it hits, dealing a bit more damage from each
Thank you.
Any way to make my bow do more than 1 damage outside smite-rune spam? I tried armor piercing but still sucks
Do we have a specific time when Founders go live?
The 25th, no more precise than that.
also, which bow you using? best bow currently is the Juniper! And as Dexell said, joinery (polished the best stats) helps greatly! Also totems put onto your weapon
i see so no specific time yet
No specific time yet, no. Maybe they'll do more of an announcement later or not, I have no idea.
Maxing Juniper on Orengall (I know I should use Sirin but that's maxed already)
Currently crafting Blitzel for that courage synergy with Howl
ican pay for a key? or is ilegal?
damn...so I take it you were fighting a gray-HP bar enemy/boss?
please don't buy keys....
you can buy access soon through the founders packs
Sale of keys is prohibited, there is the founders pack on the 25th if you want to go that route though.
just asking
I fought 3 Nimrods back to back, even with the Verminia item
oki
is that too late to get promo code?
Definitely don't buy any keys from anyone unless it's a Founder Pack (this Nov 25th), that is indeed against server rules. If you want a key, here is a link telling the best ways to obtain one!
link above on what to do
oh sorry, im not very good at english. imean on the same page, to contribute to the creators, obviously.
That's what the Founder's packs are for, they'll be available on the 25th and give you access to the game.
thanks
am i supposed to struggle with the invitation quest as some sort of skill test or did i miss something
Still debating if I should farm a blessed one or just use polished
is there link where i can buy/see any pack related to the game yet?
Personally I think Polished is enough, but I'm not big into min-maxing the virtues so I don't have a problem with a Grace build.
The official site will have them on the 25th.
i see, just wonder cause i saw only download option thx
What was announced so far you can find here though: https://wiki.avakot.org/Wares_of_Zenith
does anyone know what happens to the unidentified item drops you get?
or what they are?
Bug, don't worry about it.
Those are talismans, you can craft them at Tuvalkane.
is the "invitation" fable supposed to be a struggle for newbies like me or did i miss something
cuz im kinda stumped rn
Which Virtue/Pact was your starter?
tethren
I assume you solved the riddle? ||Aka return there at night and gank the ghost||
That quest is known to be buggy and not spawn the objective unfortunately.
Relogging, Nightfolding or simply going away and returning could fix it.
im not sure what you mean, i just kept following the bird until i encountered nimrod, thats where im struggling
not enough damage, im reviewing my skill trees again but i doubt that is the problem with my damage
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Nimrod shouldn't be part of An Invitation.
Check your currently active Fable.
the bird guide is leading me to the place i fought nimrod
Well that's incorrect. Sometimes the bird just doesn't go where it should.
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any 1 know where to find soulsbane flower?
Iirc in corrupted areas.
This is where it should take you.
Where do i send my Feedback?
How do I cancel a faction tale? The last stage I reached is a vadagar stag but it has a silver health bar and even with charged bow shots I deal 0 damage to it. Logging out and coming back in didn't fix it
ty
Simply walk away far enough.
That worked, ty. And now, to figure out how do I even reach the point where such health bars are red rather than silver
Anyone have a decent place to find Buoyant totems (Magik Duck)? Its the last totem I still havent found, and its not dropping along the river between Kith/verminia grotto.
Ranking up your weapon, giving more Vritue to the attuned stat (up to a weapon specific cap), putting a Joinery, or putting beavers on attack slot (for armor strip) are all valid ways of overcoming damage thresholds.
Duck are most common on the coast, I see many of them on the western side of the map around Salzbrim and Toughslane.
alright thank u
Quick question, for the silent rose armor, is the only way to obtain fragments for the armor by buying them with faction points?
Is there a proper way to get out of the mini game victory screen? Or do I just quit?
am i correct to think that sub bosses or Agari only drop blessed Verite and Gildaurs joineris. No quick or feybalts. Im only getting variants of these two. and im not talking about Stag or King, they drop all.
There should be, but I don't remember which one, try mashing a few buttons I guess. π
Bosses and Dungeons:
All Joineries: Mendicant King, Nimrod, and Vadegar Bosses
Verite (Melee) Joineries
Faction Tales: Overworld Mini-Bosses
Sub-Bosses: Sinecure-errant Gawth, Knell Knight, Thrice-bound Impidh
Quicksilver (Ranged) Joineries
Faction Tales: Glades of Andurin Mini-Bosses
Sub-Bosses: Etheldred The Weaver, Gruul Seeker Ruthos
Feybalt (Caster) Joineries
Faction Tales: Glades of Andurin Mini-Bosses
Sub-Bosses: Kabocha, Odeβn Bisulcam, Sinecure-errant Gawth
Gildaur (Universal) Joineries
Faction Tales: Dermak Undercity Mini-Bosses
Sub-Bosses: Wraith of Wastes, Discharged Nimrod
Remember: the higher the level your foes are, the more likely youβll receive a Blessed Joinery!
hmm, that list does say it would only be verite on the overworld...
Every variant has a couple of Agari that drop them though, according to that list.
indeed, you would think I would be able to comprehend my own post...
exactly which is incorrect information right now. Gruul is not supposed to drop Verite and Gildaurs and i have got those from him and all other ones π
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avakot wiki drop tables seem to be claiming the same.
Might want to check when it was last updated, info might not be current.
I havent rigorously catalogued my drops to confirm or refute, but I do think ive been getting quicksilver/feybalt joineries from bosses occasionally.
i would post it in bug section, but I`d like to hear somebody confirming they get these 2 from SUBs, not glades or stag etc
ah well it is what it is
I believe so, that is what I did.
can i ask here about a possible bug im facing with one of the tales or are spoilers not allowed in this channel?
Add spoiler tag
Go ahead, if you are worried about minor spoilers use the ||spoiler|| tag.
If you want to discuss spoilers directly this is a better place though: https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224020536426649
how do you use side weapon?
||I completed the tormented stag fable, got all the rewards and the ending cutscene with Garren and Lady Deorra, after leaving the arena from one of those shrine gates I went back in to see if they would now both be there but now the tormented stag is there in the state where it keeps yelling for help with the spear stuck in him and the area is corrupted and now when I try to teleport out from the gate made of vines it just drops me back in the arena||
Equip them in the arsenal, then press the switch weapon button (don't remember the default one, check keybindings).
After equipping it press βRβ on keyboard to swap weapons, donβt know about controller
Uh, would post about it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788, never heard of that behavior.
That said, tried relogging to see if it clears it up?
Just tap the button not hold
thanks
Will try now, just wanted to make sure it was a bug. pretty wild bug XD
if the monster is XX it means way higher level?
||also is Lady Deorra supposed to join us in nightfold. I might saying the names wrong for both of these things.||
no
Not necessarily, but it does mean that your current method of attack is not getting through their defense.
ty
guys, where do i drop gathannan? on avakot.org it says it's from children's t2 and t3 tales but i think it's outdated
mobs are 17 ontop and my weapon is 8 it means am way to low level than ? @sand stump ?
no
just means it'll be slower
when the enemy has an X instead of a number that's when it you are under the recommended
in this case normal attacks do 1 damage, but heavy attacks and charged attacks can still do damage
this video goes through exactly how the armour system works, and the problems with it. I really, really hope DE watches this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Tn1__RoGo
Soulframeβs armor system looks simple at firstβ¦ but the deeper you go, the more obvious its scaling problems become.
In this video, I break down how flat damage absorption really works, why some weapons suddenly fall off, why multi-hit abilities get gutted in higher difficulties, and how different mitigation models (ESO, WoW, D&D) handle the...
They featured one of his videos on a devstream once so ye they know him
yes, but i think the guy repeated a lot of concepts, he could have said the same things in less than 30 mins
yeah there's a lot of repetition, but I still think it's worth a watch
the TLDW is that a flat armour system only really works in a really narrow spectrum, and while it can work in a linear experience (a single player game where the armour value increases as the player progresses the story etc) it really doesn't in an open world game, especially not when the weapons in the game are split into "big hit" or "many small hits". the big hit weapons will always be preferred with a system like this, which is boring
I think the issue I have is I'm either one shotting or being one shot
and the cases where that isnt happening is rarer than i'd like
yeah the damage in general is very swingy
I came to the conclusion it's just better for me to run away and use skills then to actually fight
i went back to check if the bug is still there after loggin in again and the entire area is changed and i got a puzzle i havent faced yet XD
love this game
How am I supposed to fight the stag? I don't seem to be doing something right
you feel you do no damage or something else?
I brute force them using Tempest or Bromius. are you using one of the beginner pacts?
I feel he is making assumptions on what the armor system is meant to do, but under those assumptions it sounds valid.
Like I am only doing one damage, which makes me thing I am doing something wrong
Where am I supposed to hit? Where is an opening?
yeah, that's the armour system doing its thing. I don't know how much armour the stag has, but you need weapons or abilities that hit hard enough to go through it
say the stag has 100 armour (just hypothetical here), that means anything you hit it with will get -100 damage. so if you hit for 110 you will do 10 damage
if you're doing 1 damage, that means whatever you are hitting it with is less than it's armour. so anything under 100 in my example would give you 1 damage
that's the topic we're talking about
so since I do less that 100 damage, I am doing only 1 damage
again, 100 is just the example number here, I don't know its actual armour value, but yes
if you do 1 damage it means enemy has higher armor than your weapon's damage
Soulframe squads for up to 4 players ya? Ive only seen up to 3 so far.
in this case you can use heavy attacks or charged heavy attacks adn you'll do damage
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you can also use totems and other abilities that remove armour, or that increases your damage (feybalt joinery, for example)
wack
Devs comment at all on increasing to the normal 4 at some point?
Is there a way to upgrade my weapons past the origin stats?
joineires
it's the reforge option at the blacksmith
it lets you infuse a joinery on a weapon paying once again it's building cost
reforge?
No, I only see fragments and assembled
...one...I've barely been building things...I have been trying to unlock fragments for armor and collecting materials
I think kickbot is a robot? :3c
Huh, bows feel so good in this game I will prolly reconsider buying the most expensive Founder's pack, cause I probably dont need a greatsword :d Some other weapons are cool but then I switch to bow again and im like "Hell yeah", destroying everything.
Don't even get me started about dealing with Bisculams without a bow π
if oyu need range you can throw your weapon
should I level faction ranks now or wait a few days for preludes 12? I heard there were going to be changes to the faction system
well, realistically speaking you can't max any of them before the update
that said nobody knows what changes are coming
so might still be worth to grind xp
They'll be doing something to change them but having more faction rep will probably still be useful.
Especally for any new rewards they add.
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I have heard of no particular change to Factions, but in any case working on it now shouldn't be bad.
I do advice to use the time to hunt down the Bita's Eve masks if you didn't do it yet, scarecrows and pumpkins will go away with P12.
anyone knows where to get gathannan?
Alca's Children Faction Tales tiers 2 & 3 I think.
that's what avakot says but i think it's outdated
If it is, then i would love to know too.
feels weird that drops only from 1 faction's tales
it might just be a shop item in alca
are either barkbare or canopy's blessing worth putting points into beyond the first?
I'm in that faction, and I've been running 2s and 3s, and I've been at 1/2 fragments since forever. Can't remember when/where I got the first frag though, so probably happened in a prior prelude.
do you wanna check if you can buy it in the shop
It's not in the shop, but I can check again to be sure.
some other information i found is that i might drop from glades (maybe during faction tales)
That is kind of you thanks
Fairly sure it was removed from Glades in P11.
Though FT in Glades is a possibility.
is there a way to check ingame clock
if you open map on bottom left it says day and rough time
thank u so much
Current Alca's Children shop, just for you. π
Sorry it took me a min -- had to run halfway across the map. lol
-# needed to get back to this side of the map anyway for other reasons though, so it was somewhat on the way.
oh I know. it's just every enemy I thought, and bosses especially, were far easier to beat for me with a bow than any other weapon.
have you tried magic weapons yet? is it just the range you like or something specifically about bows?
not that I'm trying to discourage you or anything, just genuinely curious
Is the festival of the circade going away this week when 12 is released?
the gate for the king quest is not opening at night i need to wait a bit more tto midnight?
Not as far as we know, though the Halloween event I believe will be
would you like to try doing some t2/t3 in the glades?
You may want to leave and run back, the trigger for that can be a little buggy
Thanks, Howl!
FInally got Alca's Breath rune (for bows) to drop. Only took two+ weeks
only need the melee one now and I'll be set
Hi, do you know how long it takes for a support ticket to get answered?
i've just found the second xD
i'm missing the one from wraith tho
Can take a bit, expecially on weekends due to everybody being, well, on the weekend
I've got like 4 of those 
No sorry, just a Discord mod π would not expect a response on the weekend
Oh yeah no didnt expect it today just wondering how many days, but thanks for answering ^^
is there a way to tell what weapons i have max leveled before, after i have sold them?
im trying to build more polearms so i can get points to spend on the skills, but im not sure if i ever crafted a few of these before
As a fan of Archery in games, this is a great sight to behold. Also the Gossamer Quartz farming was hella annoying and I need like 50 of those for Garren Rood Pact later on
Do you think the current world map will be completly revamped in a later game stage?
They did say long time ago that Midrath will not be the only place and there were more planned
does the quicksilver joinery for bows not increase base damage?
like i know it increases the headshot multiplier but the +20 damage doesn't show in the stat screen
There's a headshot multiplier? Thought bows did the exact same damage to every body part and didn't bother headshotting as a result. Maybe the starter bow doesn't have it
I mean Im pretty sure aiming for the head normally does more damage. But yeah with quicksilver it increases it even more
it does
I feel it's always safe to assume headshots do more damage (aside from Resident Evil 4), so I always aim for the head.
you can see it in reforge screen @crimson sand
Pretty sure headshots deal more dmg. I found myself getting kills a bit faster by quick shotting but still hitting the head. But I use charge before a fight starts.
this is what i mean @halcyon thicket
they both give +20 damage
but only one is applied in the stat screen
I just unlocked reforging...what exactly does Parry Stability cost mean? Does it lessen the stagger for parrying?
Yes
Dang, my preludes impression was way off. Guess all those pvp threads were on to something.
lmfao what is this
Lmao.
looks like some weird AI scam ad
It is.
Oh my god
They just copped a soulframe shot for it at random.
It's actually bugged
Gildaur adds damage
Even tho they're displayed as both +20 damage
Could be a display issue, those are fairly common all over the place.
Worth checking to see if a bug report has been made and throwing in your 2 cents, or making one yourself.
Aside from the scarecrows (and therefore the mask fragments), is anything else going away in two days?
Not that I'm aware of.
And don't worry about having to craft them either, it won't yank them out of your inventory.
So long as you have both the frags and the seeds needed, you're good, can craft them whenever.
The only thing that leaves are the scarecrows and squash and thus your ability to get more.
They made an update not long before,making the scarecrow also dropping seeds is the best QOL thing to do
They even gave it increased amount
They turned it from a 4-5 hour dedicated grind to being doable in under half an hour, yeah.
I don't think it was entirely necessary for an event that lasts this long, but it works.
Man I only got a few hours to play the game every week so is very helpful to me
thanks yall thought i was dumb
I'm p sure it's actually bugged but I'm too sleepy to actually tell
And I've just reforged this blitzel 4 times and still can't tell
does anyone know why are enemies basic attacks going thru my block
yeah i know the headshot multiplier works but at least in the stat screen it doesn't show a damage up lol
If the attack is glowing it can't be blocked
This game is too good
ik thats why i said basic attacks
recently ive just been having an issue where even while blocking im still just getting hit
It's only for bows, rest have +25
Verite/feybalt
weird lol
R u sure ur facing the attacker head on
Could actually be a bug, try recording it when u can
will do next time it happens π
what even is this
bracelet :]
i thought it was the ac hidden blade but apparently it shoots lightning
og boltor prime
it's a magick weapon like the staff. but equips kinda like a fist weapon
whats the intended way to deal with the bisculams?
Is there a save file location? I'm wanting to make a backup and then delete the original save so I can make a new character since this game doesn't have multiple character slots
No it's not that kind of game, your character is your character, its uploaded to servers and things
So there's no makeshift way to get a new character?
Nope

guys is that collectible that blue light thing or its just a light ? im confused
Its just a light
πi thought its a special thing or something
Hey- is there a way to reset my acount so I can do the tutorial? It disappeared after restarting the game
'fraid not
You mean new looks on your person or new pacts?
You can get other pacts by ranking up with NPC you choose at the start
I was just wanting a completely new character. I understand I can start a new pact, use a new weapon, and I think use a new loadout for stats so I can more or less be back at level 1. But that's just starting a new character with extra steps and I don't understand why it's like that lmao
I want new looks as well, yeah
Who knows,maybe they will add a new feature that allows you to wipe your account clean and restart
That could work I guess but I'd rather just have multiple character slots lol
For now you can replay the intro quest to have different appearance
Iβm so sad I got 2 feybalt blessed drops but they both were courage 
Hey, Courage best virtue.
Yes for magick weapons too.
That's why you use a blessed on them. To change them to Courage.
I mean tactically your Enovy is your character (like Tenno)
Your pact is your Warframe so to speak
Also so I used it obviously it changed my weapon to courage but still needs the minimum 10 spirit or it gets a x on it is that just a bug or
The stat req changes with the attunement.
I've never played Warframe but yeah I get it I suppose
There's a visual bug with Unsula, I'm not aware of it being elsewhere.
But either way, if it's attuned to Courage, then the true stat req will be Courage.
Envoy is the person the pact is the class you play
Pact ultimately gives you your 3 active skills and two options of unique passive that most people ignore.
So it doesn't really define you much, largely just the active skills.

What typically happens is you max Sympathy, max Akin, often max Voided but I guess that's optional, and then dump the rest of your points into more virtue points.
Because in the vast majority of cases, more virtue is better than the unique passives.
Anyone know where to get the fragments for Skilter?
Ruthos and Gawth can drop it, and the wiki says Ode chests but I'm unsure if that's current.
Guys, are runes dropping for the whole team or just one person randomly? Like it can drop for one person but not for others?
The latter, sadly.
My friend just got it so Im mad XD
I got my bow rune on my very FIRST run
And it took my friend like 20 runs to get it so yeah,best of luck
'built' = right π
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This isn't worth putting into the bug section right?
idk if this is the place to ask, but during The Waste Bear fable, i picked up the 2nd instance of sap that's required early, and now i can't progress the quest. Will the sap respawn eventually?
Would describing this game as a "Souls-lite" be accurate? It feels as oppressive as a souls game without the crushing penalties.
might as well! No harm in letting devs know of a typo!
ah yes, a Moba
I have heard, and agree with, the basic combat feeling like a combination of Elden Ring and ESO.
I tend to call it souls-esque, it has a very familiar gameplay feel as a souls player, but doesn't have most of the other thematic stuff that typically comes with a Souls game.
Very souls-casual.
So I suppose Souls-lite could summarize that.
Much like how roguelites tend to be far more casual than roguelikes.
That's a good summary. I was trying to think of a way to describe this game to my co-worker today and that was the "elevator pitch" version I could come up with
Eh, I would put it that way, just a different style that was born out of the other.
Sekrio meet Witcher 3, with a dash of Warframe.
i have a issues with the soulmode, holding E does do nothing. I keep dying from those mobs wich keeps getting up and i get swarmed
Isn't Soul Mode Q?
Hi anyone knows how do i get invitation for the preludes?
In any case after killing them, use Soul Mode + Attack.
Holding Soul Mode is not enough.
twitch drops
Damn youre right, why ppl said it was holding E then π
Cus it used to be.
But then kick was added back and took the E key.
So now smite is spectral sight + attack.
Which, for KB & M, is Q + Left Click.
thank you for the info... id like to buy the founders pack
On the 25th lloyd ^_^ Gotta wait a couple days.
You will be able to purchase any of them come the 25th, yes.
Thanks for the help
yeah im pretty excited, cause i missed warframe's founders pack once, during those days i was young and broke, now im not going this miss opportunity
any predictions on how much the founders price is? or how long its gonna be available? i want to buy caliban accessories too but i gotta pick one
Small ones are said to be 30, unknown if usd or cad but probably usd.
30$ for individual packs, we'll know on the 25th for the bundle.
Big one is guessed to be somewhere between 100 and 150.
But that's just, albeit fairly reasonable, guesswork.
And it'll be available for many months.
hey im finding a lot of conflicting information on what the faction standing daily cap is. does anyone have a defined number? does it increase with player level?
16k.
Unknown as there is no UI for it, it was calculated to be 16k during P9, but if that is still true is a guess.
But the reset isn't personal, it's at the same time every day.
So if you're playing during said reset, you can just keep going.
6 months?
Idk, they just said it'll be available for a long time.
Probably?
Warframe's was available for about 11.
they also said they would bring them back whenever they release to console
i did the kith of kings quest and got through the door and talked to the giant king guy, where are the faction quests? people said they just appear on the map but it's been like an hour and theres nothing
try relogging
i did
they randomly pop up on the map
they aren't showing up, the bear quest is bugged because i picked up sap early
this game is actively pissing me off right now
Found a hole. Cove at the north part of the map next to Knell Knight. Then I switched to nightfold while falling, died, then saw the most beautiful constellations when I respawned.
Is there a good spot for getting Quenching Acid?
For console, yes. Whenever Soulframe comes to a new platform, there'll be a brief window for people on that platform to buy founders. So it's all fair.
weird, when i tried to pick up the sap before starting the quest it wouldnt let me
I had to relog when I started that quest. It wouldn't let me pick up sap, so I relogged and it fixed itself. It might help to do that as well because that bear quest tends to bug out in various different ways.
i started the quest, but when i went to the 2nd sap tree before i knew i had to go there, i picked it up and now it won't respawn so i just can't progress
the sap is gone, i can't continue unless it respawns
I assume you made a thread in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788?
@river river i had this same issue. when i restarted the game i was able to pick it up then.
Most of the bugs in that quest are fixed on relog.
hey how do i raise bounty level?
Start a mission farther away from the center of the map.
ok maybe wrong question. how do i get these t3 fights everyone is recruiting for @knotty moon
T3 refers to a 3 star mission, it should just spawn in a while.
The game tries to populate one mission of each star level near you, and despawns things that are too far away.
Any secrets to getting tons of quenching acid?
You have to not be in the middle of a fable, so check your journal, either via J or the menu.
Tales were turned off during fables because of bugs involving them.
Assuming you are not in a fable, they should automatically start popping up every now and again.
Try Dermark maybe?
Not sure it is still a source though.
So the only thing i have popping up with stars on it are the alca children tales. ive never seen any other icons with stars how do i get to the point where bosses start popping up?
Tey've shown bromius shield 2 devstreams ago and it still isn't here. They haven't mentionned it for P12 too...anyone heard something about it?
Those are it.
Unless you change faction, in which case you'd have that faction icons.
it's concept art, just gonna be here if/when it is
@knotty moon im so confused. so are you saying sometimes the alca children tales will have a boss quest instead of lets say freeing animals from cages?
Bossess are a possible enounter in 3 stars Tales.
There are also Sub-Bosses (Agari) that are on a 3 hour cd that just hang around in the overworld.
Yes, usually 3 stars ones.
But I think 2 stars ones are possible as well.
ok so basically when i see the 3 stars just do them. got it
was i supposed to get an option to join the faction? because i was never given a join option, just a check standing button
ok @knotty moon last question. so when someone is asking for t3 stag share. is that three people who randomly got a 3 star stag fight or does it populate for everyone at the same time
you got a faction complementary with your choice of initial pact
Starting faction is based on the starting Virtue you choose.
Courage get Kith of Kings.
Spirit get Alca's Children.
Grace get Silent Rose.
You can change faction by crafting the Talisman of that faction and speaking with the faction elader.
you should also have a journal quest that invites you to their hub
I'm interpreting that as asking to join someone that started a T3 Tale and got a Stag as the end boss.
Presumably for the loot.
Might be possible that someone is organizing groups getting and abandoning tales in single player and then inviting when they get the one they want.
But I have not heard of that practice.
i've relogged and fully restarted, im still not getting any faction missions
ok
You said your Waste Bear Fable is active but bugged?
That might be what is interfering with it, trying to unbug it would be my best bet.
i'd love to but THERES STILL NO SAP ON THE TREE
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If you made a thread about it I don't see what else you can do atm.
If it doesn't get solved with P12 on the 25th I would contact support.
i put a thing in the bug tracker, i hope it gets fixed eventually but as it stand sit seems like i'm locked out of playing the game
i walked away and back and while there was no sap it let me interact and it progressed
im so confused
Strange though, for me it is respawning too much.
I got a small stockpile of sap I don't know what to do with. π
it respawns on all the other sap tress, just not that one
Whats the best method for sappheline is it a certain dungeon tileset?
Either Dermark or Glades, don't remember which one.
What armor is that with the cape?
the tethren set
i ended up farming mine (along with moranite) by just looping crypt over and over and opening the coffins
starter for the melee pact
So the circade one
yeagh
Sapheliene is also super common in Glades chests
i can barely find the glades chests lols i gave up on my second run of that and went back to crypts
if u can read the glade maps and find the "dead ends" they bound to have a chest sometimes
i do msot of my glade chest just finding those dead ends and the few chest spots in big rooms/intersection that i do remember
Hey guys, do you know if theres any upcoming devstream or when will be the next one ?
Nope no date yet
Okey thanks, hope to have the chance for the twitch drops soon
or a key on wednesdays, be sure to be registered
maybe no streams anytime soon as christmas is in a month and they saving the last few weeks preparing updates for both frame game
hello, i just finished the wolf pups quest, how do i swear a pact?
Theres any streamer with drops available for soulframe ?
dont think so
u mean craft it? did u check with the blacksmith
if u got the parts?
ooooh im supposed to craft it? didn't know, i just got my pup
upd: ok nvm, just need some pearls. Index could've said crafting was needed -_-
will i have to do anything special to get the founders?
Presumably, just need to go to https://www.soulframe.com/en/founders on the 25th and buy a pack.
Most likely
will also link to the right place.
thanks
guys can someone help me
i got automated support ticket response, will they look at this and response again?
If necessary I assume so, yes, just wait for now.
sap tap dissapeared from my inventory and i cannot harvest sap from trees, it got removed from my inventory most likely after bromius quest
That's normal.
normal?
After the quest you are not supposed to get more sap.
im getting 2 hand sign with locked sound effect when i want to get sap
Though that may change in P12 if it turns out to be one of the mats for the fast travel.
everyone else can take them
That is the bug. π
hold on, im confused - do you have sap tap in your inventory?
This doesn't look like the collection stage.
Have you already been guided to the purple barrier?
Those subtitles only happen when you're guided to the three trees to open the barrier.
Yep, I still do.
i finished bromius quest already, but now when i come to trees, i cant collect sap (honey) thing and sap tap is missing from my inventory
That was towards the person I was responding to, but I don't think not collecting sap after the quest is done is a problem.
And there's a very big difference between sap and honey, this is certainly not honey lol.
Honey does not come from trees.
But yeah, you don't need the tap after the quest is done, the tap is for the quest.
They added the sap to the treesong trees
I dont think you both dont understand my issue, can i invite you guys to the forest next to spider where Koboocha is?
Oh, that's... odd.
And they still whisper to you?
Sounds a bit confusing.
A bit, but players kept mistaking them for the correct trees
So they just made them also correct trees to start the quest
@sly escarp ill send screenshots and tell me if this is bug or not pls
You completed the Waste Bear Fable.
The Sap Tap was removed from your Inventory.
You can't collect sap anymore.
Is that correct?
Because that is the expected behavior.
So, sounds like the issue is you can't collect sap after completing the Waste Bear! Good news: you don't need to, but if you check your inventory and don't have the Sap Tap item, then you may have discovered a bug! Possibly. If not and it's intended then it's not a big deal.
Sap isn't used for anything but starting the Waste Bear fable anyways.
This forest in between spider and kaboocha
im seing trees with this symbol
Did you already complete Waste Bear?
Then you don't need to collect them, they do nothing.
so this is normal? i hear bear roars. I remember some guy invited me to his bromius quest and i got disconected
Though, iirc they are supposed to despawn the saps once you're done the quest, if we remember the patch notes righ. That might be a bug.
It is normal yes, what happens in another person's game does not affect your own.
Bear just kind of grumbles and growls in that area regardless.
Perhaps pre-alpha shenanigans that'll be smoothed out later.
Link the sound cues to quest progress.
@sly escarp can i invite you if you dont mind?
I remember hearing that Warsongs noises could be heard in the south castle some preludes ago.
Not in game right now
ah alright
And I don't think you have a problem that needs help, as multiple people have said.
someone know the number of a good moving company? need these boxes moved but cant figure it out
You completed the Waste Bear, ignore the sap trees, they don't do anything now.
can someone else join me, my name is Calaman i wanna do experiment - i saw some people can collect the sap from trees but i cant
i understand its a bug lol
Even if you could collect sap it would just sit in your inventory being useless.
But if it's just the sap hanging around and not being collectible, you're welcome to file in #1438224825113120788 . Just make sure to include:
- What you think should be happening
- What is happening instead
- Screenshots.
Look in the upper area, break some stuff, should be a lever somewhere.
Lever on the upper level.
Best way to file a bug report imo
Explain what you expect, explain what's happening instead, and then show what's happening.
i got automatic response , i can send a screenshot , i dont understand very well
Yeah what Dexell said that I only saw after, lol.
This server has a thread section called #1438224825113120788
If you put the bug in there the devs might see it and fix it.
You don't submit a support ticket for every bug I don't think, lol.
That would be very inconvenient.
got it, thank you very much
Support is mostly for bugs needing logs and account related issues like quest locks.
My english is not that great, what does refrain mean?
and thank you
Refrain means hold back, or basically, don't
Per https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438226708154286101
Please indicate whether you were playing solo or in multiplayer. If you were in a multiplayer session, clearly indicate whether you were the host or client.
And
When reporting bugs, F6 screenshots can be a huge help! These screenshots capture important location data that allows our developers to load directly into the exact tile or location where the issue occurred.
Sound like important points, they bolded them and all. π
"refrain from filing multiple tickets" means "please do not file another ticket about the same issue"
do you think i will get proper ticket repsonse from DE? Im guessing this is automated message
Probably, but this isn't the best way to let them know about the bug.
It's a way best used if you need to send them private information, or if there's a problem with your account.
If you just want to file a bug, go to #1438224825113120788 and start a thread
In the thread, explain what is happening, what you think is meant to happen instead, and provide some screenshots. Also, mention if you're playing solo or multiplayer.
That's the easiest and often best way to file a simple bug.
That report is also very... weird. You refer to sap as both sappheline and honey, which are both... wrong.
If you do make a bug report, I'd make sure it's clearer.
Don't open a new ticket, we have a bug report section.
It's there to be used. It should be the first step, not a ticket.
Don't file a new ticket
Make a thread in #1438224825113120788
Don't bog down the tickets unless you actually need to file a ticket.
Click on the blue text that says bug tracking
ii made feedback in bug-tracking already
there as well
guess ill just wait and hope they respond than
They might not respond, but they will fix the bug at some point.
Replied to you there just prompting some extra info you can add to your bug report to make it even better! Good work!
anyone has a good way to farm/get sappheline? I tried crypt but its been really slow
Glades or Dermark is the other alternative.
If all else fails sometimes Avakot sells it.
Damn i keep doing all of them but I mostly get moranite
Ill keep grinding then lmao
i got a few beating the discharged nimrod just now
try bosses if u happens to be nearby ig
ye I always fo my bosses when theyr up but rng is not on my side it seems
what are these 2 weps
I have 64 Vasp fragments and almost nothing else drops - how the heck do I find different ones?
And yes, I've looked at drop locations. I'm still just racking up Vasp fragments. (Can I sell these darn things?)
I know we need the option to sell the fragments
Is the last step of Tier 3 Children of Alca Tales ALWAYS a Nimrod? π€
not for me, most of mine are bannerets
normally t3 iz bannewets an da stag
This will be my sixth consecutive time of getting "Hark, the Collector" as the last step. π
Do those white ghost enemies that down in groups drop anything? Their level 1
Question - is there some trick to the vadagar stag? I have level 30 pact and weapon but I can't damage it no matter what I do.
Does your highest stat match the weapon(s) you're using against it?
Yes. Courage, Vasp-IV.
I'd list a sidearm but the game refuses to drop fragments for them. Up to 68 vasp fragments though, in case I want to start my own phalanx.
Starter weapons are a bit on the weak side, but a Joinery should help.
Hey guys, is the arbear pact not accessible yet?
Complete the Waste Bear fable, then craft it.
You should get it when the fable ends, when the vision of the Envoy kitted out in Bromius armor shows.
Yeah I thought I was going to have to buy it from him like kithβs pact for some reason, I was trying to find him again
heβs so cool I already miss him
Hey when it said an ancestor joined me in the nighthold after, who? I canβt find them π
or was it just verminia coming back
Bug, no one joins at that time.
Ahhhh Okok cool
where does one find the fragments for tempest leathers?
fully charge ur heavy
dat how me get thwough it
also, put on beaver totem in attac slot owo
I don't have totems for this weapon.
Additionally, I've been trying to farm any weapon fragment other than Vasp and I'm just not getting anything. Hunting the enemies who drop them, going to the right locations, etc. No luck.
bosses dwop stuff a wot, r u fighting all of em?
Trying, when they spawn.
well, just gotta keep goin uwu
Semi-related, is there some way to not get faction tales that pit you against bosses too high to damage? I'm trying to level Orengall and I keep having to fight gray bar enemies. I'm in the SW of the map, if it makes any difference. (Side note, the map needs level spans per area.)
SW stwonger den NW
me just wecommend sticking to wut u can hurt
cuz if errything cant b hurt, ur just outarmored
an make suwre ur doing fully charged heavy attacks be4 u think u cant hurt em
I'm fighting level 18-20 stuff, and that's around what my gear is (19 weapon, 17 pact). But I keep getting invincible bosses that I have to swap gear for.
dat just gunna happen, me nu got anyfin to help except totems/joinery.
me guess if u were doing courage build, den swapped to a spirit widdout weallocating virtues, ur weapon would be pwebby bad.
buh dat assuming forgor, an me assumin ur on top of it owo
hey does anyone know where i can get some help installing the game?
have you got a code?
downloaded it from website?
yes
what happens when you reun the file?
it just says gathering required info
and the closes itself
no follow up after the fact
I have noticed that squirrels for wands have parry window too in whats the gold rarity, is that just an empty stat or do they plan to add parry with the new skill trees?
@sacred stirrup weird, didnt even let you select the folder?
no, it doesnt let me get that far
its like .7 seconds of the green loading bar and then it shuts down
I also already restarted my pc
I found someone online who had the same problem had to use Microsoft uninstall tool to fix it, but they didnt have enough space where they tried to install the game
that did it
thanks bro, time to look up how to actually play the game bc lowkey i uninstalled it before bc after le stag fight i didnt know what to do
your welcome, enjoy
thx
Hey, I did the shewolf quest, picked a little pup but its not showing up in the fold
have you checked in case it's chilling next to tuvalkane or orlick?
Do we know if the halloween event is going away tuesday
Yea man, checked everywhere, its been a couple days
there's 2 spot inside the main tent too, sometimes eep by the fire, soemtimes standing by the entrance
mine's by the forge rn
What are the chances of me getting a code for the prelude today? ... I'm going to buy the founder, but the anxiety to test it is hitting me hard.
the pack should include codes too if u dont have access yet iirc
Na he isn't here. He hates me π
try check orlick spot behind the map canvas
I dont have the access yet. 8(
Do we know if the halloween event is going away tuesday
what halloween event
last year's lasted for months iirc
yeah lasted a good while
considering the thingy is 'winter'squash seed
I think the devs said the event goes with p12 but, yk devstream talk isn't always accurate
u shoul get ur masks just in case uwu
The mask stuff ends with p12, yes.
It takes all of a half hour to do though, so it won't be hard to get out of the way.
been going around charming and rescuing animals to grind the totems to dust and I wondered if there was a faster way than right clicking each weapon type and then each totem individually? I suppose a faster method exists or is in the works?
forgive me if its already been asked, but are the founder drops the first cosmetic/items that this game has had or were there any earlier ones that are now time gated
People who existed before a forced reset some preludes ago got a flower trail where they walked as an apology gift, but that was a mote, which have been fully removed, though DE has confirmed it'll return in some way.
Other than that, yes.
thank you!
Well that and the halloween masks, which are available right now, to be gone in about a day or so.
The event takes all of about a half hour to do though.
and the only way to access the game at the moment is via the randomly selected codes right?
Or twitch drops, they had a whole campaign of streams that all dropped a code for half an hour of watching, so there's been a ton going out recently.
Or you can buy any founders pack on the 25th, as they all come with keys.
da halloween masks r event items doe, so dey gunna wepeat next yeawr uwu
np 
i hope they make the bromius 2 a sweep instead of a straight wave
ever since i put this pact on enemies have been suspicioully stepping to the sides/flanking way more often than usual
how do you start mendicant king
hit the bell
"In order to begin the Mendicant King fight, the player must find the occupied throne and ring the bell hanging behind it by striking it with a weapon. Upon doing so, the statue will transform into the King and rise to fight."
avakot org izza gud wiki
Any idea what this is talking about? Haven't found any light puzzle or hidden rooms in this giant vertical well tile. x_x
I did the mirror version but I kinda just ran away from this one myself
guys is the pacts from the shop prebuilt or the fragments
If I play a quest with someone else, does it finish the quest for me too? I remember back when it didnt and now it wont let me replay The Waste Bear
they're fragments
It does not.
Multiplayer is not seamless.
Ah, cool, then I just need to figure out why it wont let me start the arbearer stuff :(
Broke every breakable object and ran through every path with spirit sight and found nothing beyond 10,000+ dracs. x_x
is wyld pacts just basically prime warframes?
I've looked up every tut on starting the Waste Bear quest and all they say is you need to get Verminia, which I have, and collect some sap after talking to her and getting that cutscene. I cannot get the cutscene to start, and just in case I did I also found some sap from where I started the mission on my wife's world. Is there something I'm missing?
and yeah from what I've heard
Yeah pretty much.
Pacts define your build less than Warframes do, at least as of right now, but the comparison is apt.
Wylds are just the base pact but changed in some way, the first three have some trigger on smite.
What precisely that is I either forget or it wasn't really explained.
Memory too bad to remember which one.
if anyone knows what silly thing I'm inevitably missing please let me know π My sparrow wont lead me anywhere and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do other than what I already did on her world and wonder why it isnt working on mine
Did you do the wolf quest already? I think when I started the Waste Bear quest I just went to the Fables list and selected it.
Yeah I'm done Orengal's stuff, I even have her pact
to my knowledge I've done every quest but Bromius'
its upcoming
I think Steve mentioned jewels lighting up as a visual effect and some type of buff that lasts for a combat encounter
Is It
yeah
Bet
We're getting world tree teleport in P12, on Tuesday.
And I think the founder greatsword will also have some type of on smite activation but I might also be imagining that
Letβs GO
Have you looked in your fable list to see if it's just waiting to be activated?
canβt come any sooner Iβm excited I got 12 friends a code and just gifted 1 on warframe today
Its here but I havent done it
and nothing I do will progress it
This is gonna be sweet as much as I enjoy walking around everywhere
Going from one side of the map to the other entirely is wayyy annoying
Talking to Verminia doesn't start it either? Sorry, I don't remember exactly how I started mine, just spitballing ideas.
Yeah talking to verminia just gets me in the customization menu, nothing more :( and yeah that is how you start it I thought
It auto starts after verminias quest and then you have to find a tree leaking sap like south east of the border they give you?
Iirc
There is no markers on my map
Its not just in your list? That's strange
I remember having the dream sequence they showed in a devstream, then talking to Verminia.
I've already done the quest on my wifes account so like, I know how it goes is the strangest bit, it just doesn't wanna work on my account sob
I think I already had the dream sequence but nothing else will load :(
Have you tried relogging since this weirdness? Maybe it's something that can only be triggered in the nightfold/Midrath?
Relogging does solve many things
Ive logged off and on once already but doing it again doesn't harm no one, one sec
Another suggestion is perhaps the fable needs to be activated specifically from Orlick rather than the pause fable menu?
Nothing on the map or from her, let me try this
at this point I'm trying anything
nope same as the menus, It just shows that the quest is there but not even available in my Journal :(
Strange, sorry to hear it isn't working. I suppose you could try a support ticket or see if others had this issue in #1438224825113120788
Yeah pretty much my last bet I think, thanks for trying :)
its 3am anyways and I need to get to bed
Have a good sleep!
Can you get to the island now?
not with out glitches I believe
Is it possible to take any tasks from her?
I don't have any plot related tasks and in general I don't know what to do.
not directly, but it looks like you joined the faction, so faction tales should spawn in the overworld as you wander around
assuming they aren't conflicting with an active fable or something
not directly, but it looks like you joined the faction, so faction tales should spawn in the overworld as you wander around
assuming they aren't conflicting with an active fable or something
But I don't even remember where I joined.
Yeah, there's no mission-giver in this game. Just randomly-spawning NPCs who start them for you
Which I don't particularly like, but it is what it is
if you're able to talk to deora there, normally, it would have been the fable/task, "an invitation" that guided you to joining that faction
Now I need to look for the faction I joined in order to leave it? Or look for NPCs for new quests?
there's no direct follow-up to the invitation, and the game doesn't really guide you directly to other fables so you normally have to stumble into them
if you want to though, you can check a list online to see what you're missing
and leaving the faction is only something you'll need to do if you want to switch to one of the others later on
So, it turns out that you just need to explore the world if there are no quests now?
you can if you want to, yep
I'm still having an issue where I can't get weapon fragments to drop other than Vasp. Even blue flower chests in Glades are giving me dracs only.
Most weapon fragments have been taken out of chests and placed as Tale rewards or drops from enemies/bosses
Well, that'd do it.
anyone know what these guys are or what they are for?
They're villagers, they live in the village
set dwessing owo
no wonder they just watch me get jumped
Well lore-wise they're also brainwashed to think you're basically a terrorist
awre dey doe? do dey have da white eyez?
deir bwainwash magic make ur eyes white
i just tested it and it seems to be working for me
maybe pc just bugged then
i know there have been some issues on the nvidia side of things lately so it could be related to that
nvidia is always having some issues
it seems firefox was the problem i guess i just had some site that was protected
anyone know where i can find sappheline?
end dungeon chests an buying fwom avakot 
nu idea 
sometemz da gwaphics get a bit buggy, dat cuz pwe-alpha
That will heavily depend on your own system, personally I always turn off motion blur and film grain, and I like turning Bloom down to like 15 and keeping brightness at 45 for some general settings
Nimrod...
logging back in every so often and seeing a new feature is so fun, love the game
Oh good the Warframe UI is leaking in again
Kinda want there to be a martial pact that let's me pull some HEMA type stuff on enemies
That's not normal, definitely a bug.
Maybe a passive that makes the fists way more useful, so you have a reason to punch someone after throwing your weapon
Hi, do i need to craft the mask before next patch coming? see in devstream that's the event will be gone.
they've mentioned that it probably will
You need to gather the resources, you do not need to craft them.
Nothing will be yanked from your inventory.
yep, just gathering enough of the fragments should be enough if you're worried
Get the frags and the 250 total seeds needed and you're good, you can craft them whenever.
Thank you
oh really
wish it wasnt i liked it
Except motes.
You know what I meant lol.
How do I get flyblades?
one of them drops from the archer enemies, and th other from some chests and some bosses i think
Yeah, so far I only got 1 fragment for the one that drops from chests. Haven't been lucky with the hunter enemy drops so far
One is from the Crypta/Puzzle Dungeon (Precklies), the other drops from a certain banneret and the archer boss in the north
https://wiki.avakot.org/ has all that you need to know anyway
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I wish I knew where my Ode Tempest pact wandered off to.
I wonder if they add a new pact with Founders, outside of the Wyld variations 
Oh wait I see they removed it, ah well.
the Ode Tempest pact? I still have mine
So if you gobbled up everything there is you can move on to the next faction without downsides outside of regrinding favour.
The faction potions they mentioned will be interesting
Is it possible to change the Pact attunements? My (preferred) weapons seemed to be grace attuned and the only pact that's grace attuned is Sirin (which is the one I chose from the start cuz it had a bow)
there's also the 1 week cooldown for switching, but yeah, switching factions is not too punishing
you can change weapon attunement
You can switch the attunment of weapons if you want to
Fair
I am still tinkering around with full courage Garren Rood, it kinda feels satisfying seeing stampede do actual damage
I love the starting spirit Ode, Stunlocking all enemies and heavy attack them untill they are a pulp
are yall keeping all your weapons or do u sell ones u dont care for
The latter, as I don't care to keep what I never plan on using.
I kept what I will use and what I might use on occasion.
I keep them all for my stingy habit of being a collector
Does reforging increase Tuvalkane's level or is it only increased by crafting new things?
iirc, reforging only shows up in Tuvalkane's UI when you hit bond level 3 anyway. So up to that point, it is definitely to by craftin new unique new things.
hmm yeah I think I'm gonna wait a little longer to return to this game lol... def not enjoying the overworld bosses suddenly being tanky as all hell unless i have a specific item or whatever
The nimrod?
You donβt need the elixir to kill him,it just made it much easier to do so
You hit the bell on its head or the red spot on itβs chest iirc
uh huh
You donβt specific item to kill it tho
kinda hard to do that when getting close he stomps me lol
Level up ur pacts and weapons first
Ye I agree
Wait wait,are you talking about the one u fought in the story?
Shootβ¦
no
the overworld one that i encountered in the swampy area
i already beat the story one, it wasn't terrible.
This one here has a whole area to just run off to for whatever reason.
Like I'll damage him and he does his AOE thing then runs off 100 yards in another direction.
Well truth to be told I never had a hard time fighting it AFTER my pacts and weapons levels are up and spent those skill points
idk I guess I'm just getting this lol
I remember being able to beat him before
but I guess something was changed in recent months
The stag is a weird outlier in terms of world bosses imho
Other bosses feel very easy to kill, and then there is the stag who is just annoying.
apparently grey healthbar means i'm not strong enough
Try Throwing or Heavy Attacks, the grey healthbar is often considering your current style of attack.
Or try putting on a beaver as totems, they reduce armor
yeah I'll have to try that next time i play
i got sucked in to the game and didnt realize a couple hours had just passed while scratching my head at this stuff
Also, once you get Runes for your weapons, some bosses become a lot easier
yeah i was looking at the runes a little bit earlier
some seem really nice to have
You should try to get all 3 of them, or... dunno how many it will be going from tomorrow onward, considering they mentioned to add some more to each of the Agari
Does it matter which glades entrance you have to go through to get the 'infinite waves' room? Had no luck so far in low level areas
after i choose my pup, what is the next quest/fable?
Depends, you don't have to do most Fables in a specific order
It's a bit random. Sometimes the room is very well hidden, sometimes not there at all. But I encountered it atleast once in any of the glades I visited.
If you haven't already then Brewer of Hues and The Waste Bear are likely your next Fables
It's just RNG, does not matter which entrance you use AFAIK
You kinda do
Its linear
i for sure did the Waste Bear fable
also i dont know like how to start them ykk
like my fable page always empty
You can do Orengall before Brewer/Bromius or after
i have to fight that bear boss right
?
That's a replay feature
oh?
I think we're talking past each other here, on a fresh account you can do Shewolf Snared at any time after Torment Stag, or do Brewer of Hues at any time after Torment Stag
Shewolf Snared is not a prerequisite for Brewer or vice versa, they are not linear
mm should i just open evry part of the map(so the map be visible) for now
like find the trees yk
Actually does this do anything yet? Or do we just get a puppy?
pupper for now, overworld mount in the future
Ah isee
Do we know what time are the founders pack dropping tomorrow?
Good morning, how do I get access to the game?
gotta get lucky and get a code last i knew
at least thats how i got mine
wait for announcement on next stream, or get a founders pack tomorrow
We're getting founders packs tomorrow, which will come with codes.
whats included in the founder pack??
depends on which one you get, but armor, a couple of weapons, and a Wyld Pact (soulframes 'prime)
oh nice, do we know how much itll be?
there's 3 basic ones that come with that, and some cosmetics, and they'll be $30
nvm i found it on their website lol thank you
and one big one that comes with the contents of the other three for some price we don't know yet
if i had to guess based on games that are out as of right now, prolly like $60ish
but who knows maybe im way off, it could be like some other games where they are $100+
uh.. each pack it contains is $30, so I'm pretty sure $90 is the minimum
my current bet is on ~$105 for the big paragon pack
fair enough, i havent been keeping up with soulframe since april/may tbh
ive obv missed alot lol so dont listen to me
I mean, any guess is valid at the moment since we don't know -- they could surprise us
take everything i say with like a handfull of salt
saaaaame
hahaha
yeah idek when the last time i launched the game was tbh
it was fun for like the first 100ish hours i put into it, then i got bored and forgot about the game
all we know for sure about the paragon pack is "cheaper than warframe's biggest founders pack" which was like $240 or something insane like that
i think i got stuck somewhere and couldnt figure out the next step to the quest and just gave up lol
$249.99 with a item value of over $400
wow thats wild
-# good lord I can't believe I spent that much on a game fresh out of beta back in 2013
hahaha yeah
hey so how many weapon slots do i actually have and should i pay for more right now?
i'd say wait until update
Depends on when you started, if you started post P11 you'll have 3 Pact slots and 6 weapon slots, P12 should come with a slot rebalance though so you may want to wait
i started like a few days ago with a friend, but oki doke
scuse me clouds. go back to your original places
it is what it is
eso si que es 
-# i only know this Spanish due to it just being how you spell the English word "socks" lmao
Howβd you get the tree in the left cornerβ οΈ
old bug that got patched a long while ago 
Welllll
yes... there is still a way...
Bahahah
Interesting
i remember the devs saying they did a feedback survey and one of the prevailing requests was that melee combat needs an overhaul/rework... have we got any further news about that?
did anyone notice small little black ghosts with googly eyes on the UI?
those have been there for forever yeah 
dun think so
sad. i picked sword to start with and combat is just a miserable experience. ive hit a progression wall where my sword doesnt actually do enough damage to kill the boss im supposed to kill to continue the story
i unlocked another weapon and its just a shorter sword that feels exactly the same but does less damage. exceptionally un-compelling to use
so i just gotta wait until they revamp melee combat
not really 
but also if you're encountering the "grey health bar, 1 damage per hit", heavy attacks tend to get thru very often
The "grey health" system will likely change, its new and I frequently see the same issue where new people feel walled off if they run into a boss
boss (or his constant summons) stagger me quicker than i can charge a heavy attack so theyre not rly viable. throwing attacks kinda work but like... thats just playing ranged. i didnt pick the sword because i wanted to throw it
oh the grey health thing isnt just me thank god, I've been slamming my head against the virdigris stag for like an hour wondering what the solution was
I managed to get its health to go red but it only lasted for abt 5 seconds
solution is more damage or armor reduction totems
Melee atm just feels untenable to me, but I could be doing something rlly, rlly wrong; less damage than a level 5 bow, much harder on account of having to avoid the groups of mobs in melee rather than ranged and it seems like high armour values negate a lot of physical damage dealt
how do i do more damage? nothing is explained
do i just run around the countryside aimlessly slowly levelling my weapon?
level up your weapon, use pact abilities if it has such abilities, equip totems on your weapon, equip a rune on your weapon
alternatively, change to a better weapon
most weapons will be quite low damage tho when at lower levels
pact abilities straight up do nothing. ive tested them and there is no discernable damage difference and the stagger ability doesnt stagger enemies. I have totems equipped. I don't know where to get runes. weapons level wayyyyy too slowly to be compelling gameplay. enemies are health sponges
which is why i said "if it has such abilities"
Hello friend!
Most story bosses should be killable for most players, may we ask which boss you are trying to kill is?
Also, which pact are you using?
i dont know the name. courage? the boss is banneret something.
Banneret? And you said you started with the Tethren pact?
sounds right
doesn't sound like a story boss 
Okay, so, first off, Bannerets usually aren't a story boss
its where the sparrow takes me next. and it pops up in the top left like the main quests
ive just been following the sparrow
Did you go to a colourful marker with stars on it?
(when its not flying on the spot or into locked doors like yesterday lol)
that's a faction tale, not a story quest/fable
Sparrow just guides you to bounties after you complete An Invitation
what does that mean
Further story quests need to be discovered through exploring.
the game is allergic to communicating
Basically, your bird took you to a faction bounty
And faction bounty bosses are hard
whenever i try exploring new areas its just high lvl enemies i cant take on
faction tales are sorta kinda the current gameplay loop of sorts
Would suggest you abandon the bounty and focus on finding new weapon, unlocking the map, and doing dungeons to level up!
you can abandon the tale by running away from it relogging 
how do i find content that's actually my lvl?
Is anyone online who has their bosses up rn? I need to finish my Kabucha Arbearer farm before tomorrow
cause atm its just running into health sponges in every direction
Additionally, would like to note: Tethren has one of the best damage abilities in the game. It's red ability, Fellust, grants a stacking damage buff to your weapon for each successful hit until you run out of charges.
Oooooooh
yea i did notice this description. when i tested it tho.. the damge increase was not noticeable
generally the more north or far south you go, the higher the enemy levels will be
tethren is a busted pact with damage ramp and 50% damage reduction, maybe start out with doing the faction bounties with one star to level your pact and weapons
i did try this and the one star one led me to the same castle that banneret guy was at... and again lvl 20 enemies
Would suggest doing dungeons for now, they give lots of materials and some dungeons have enemies with lots of XP. You CAN also run faction tales, just make sure the markers you go to have 1 or 2 stars, not 3. 3 stars have the bosses. Running faction tales is a good way to get new weapons and armour, and progress your faction rank to unlock some sweet goodies in their shop.
that's an overworld boss, its not part of the faction bounty
he made himself part of the bounty whether intended or not
That...should not be happening. 1 star faction tales should not be leading you to a boss. Usually they give an objective like "clear the enemy encampment"
guys i have a mail in the inbox game how do i read them?
You don't that's a bug
Did that gut have a name and health bar or was he just bigger and chunkier? There are Heavy Enemies that can pook like the bosses but aren't bosses.
damn
the t1 is probably steal Oden Intel and you ran into the bannerets North of the map
Might have run into Gawth
yea. the guy was in the castle it asked me to clear
Sounds like they're being lead to Fort Curlail, which is the highest level area in the starting zone. Imo they need to reduce the enemy level there to like 10, it's a new player trap.
i dont think he was one of the enemies i acc needed to kill for the 1 star bounty but he defo made his presence known
big grey healthbar
more like a new player adventure! /j
but yah if it's too op just abandon the quest and start a new one. spending an hour on a tanky boss would be worse than doing two easy t1 bounties
The one with a bridge over a lake?
basically every direction or thing i try its just lvl 20 enemies or lvl 3 enemies who give like no exp... theres a whole bunch of numbers between 3 and 20 itd be great to encounter them
Dungeons are great for this!
Dungeons have set levels based on the entrance you use
Most entrances in the starting area range from levels 5-15
So im trying to use excel to calculate some stats and stuff. is https://wiki.avakot.org up to date and the one to use?
Join us, won't you? Managed by the Avakot.org team, powered by Envoys like you.
So if you find one that's a comfortable level you can return it a bunch for XP!
Imo the best wiki we players have
and updated to latest patch?
Should be, though with so many drop pool edits in p11 they may have missed something in the chaos. Why?
i did do one and the final door bugged(?) shut so i had to leave and do the whole thing again lol
Leaving the dungeon through the door gives no bonue XP so that's fine
ok cool thanks... no i heard fextralife is ai generated and wrong
The big reward is the gold glowy chest at the end and the enemies inside
ew no don't go there. avakot wiki is the most active community updated
yeah yeah cool noted thanks
yea. and they use embedded streams to inflate their views. their work with the remnant wikis is some of the worst ive seen
Additionally, if you head to Garren Shrine there's a dungeon there called the Glades Of Andurin. This space can spawn shambling wooden enemies called Mockeries, which once beaten by blade must have their souls Smited to kill them for good. They also give a TON of weapon and pact XP. @vapid wren
Like, 3-4 times the amount of an equivalently levelled generic soldier enemy.
Hope the avakot wiki becomes easier to find, googling only lists other ones
ah that brings me to my other difficulty. i have no idea what anything is on the map lol. like a wiki or a helpful person like u can say go here and its all still mostly the symbols for me... i know about the whole letters mechanic. its really cool conceptually. unfortunately it is really really unhelpful when you're trying to start out
The others pay to have their site bumped up the results page iirc
yeah the avakot wiki needs more SEO work
Avakot.org has a Soulmap, an interactive map with all sorts of handy waypoints! It also has the names deciphered for locations
have you played Warframe before?
And a Wiki, the best wiki around imo!
yea but like... that's kinda bypassing the cool mechanic ygm? like it's just in this weird rift where it feels like the whole game wants to explore passively and solve the mysteries etc but then communicates so little im forced to rely on external help/ wikis
try this https://avakot.org/api it has all the data in a digestible format.
i dont know what the solution is. maybe part of the starter quest should have you unlock the names of some locations in the starter area? so you have something to work with but keeps the mystery mechanic
If you use Spectral Sight you should see some hints glow in gold
Fair. It is a pre-alpha, so the tutorials are a bit...rough. they did day they're reworking the NPE a bit with the next update to help that, but unfortunately tutorials can only really be added for a system when the system is locked in, and a lot of systems just aren't right now. π
there are some murals but they don't light up and making the stags face their directions does nothing
In the meantime, people here are happy to help out. The name collectibles respawn once every in game hour, and also respawn each time you leave a dungeon or restart the game.
Same π«
So that might be a journey to embark on soon, is collecting all the location names nearby!
Are you running on Low graphics settings perchance?
Heard there were bugs with the hints not showing on Low
It should be the way they're facing in the paintings relative to the door
it's true. i do have to keep reminding myself it's pre-alpha. i just wish the devs would break the 4th wall a bit to communicate where the limitations of pre-alpha are. like the Hades 2 beta had this whole italics keyword like "maybe that'll be achieveable... in time" and you know that you've reached the end of currently implemented features. Soulframe feels like it would let me walk in a field for an hour without telling me its an empty field because they havent built the castle they planned to add there yet.
Hmm, and holding soul sight does not make glowy deer heads appear on the walls of that room?
it isn't and it isn't the reverse
Never did it's just the murals
They 100% would...and did...and the only warning was saying on a devstream "btw we're expanding the map but there's not much to do in the new areas yet"
Wait, this is the intro quest 4 stag puzzle right?
