envoy-gathering

[wheat dune]

I'll craft it when RNG wills it.

[split hill]

why is ███ always killing me?

[winter steeple]

White boxes can be very deadly

[jade quarry]

how do i leave a squad

[winter steeple]

for this reason, i avoid spreadsheets whenever possible

[wheat dune]

Open your map/menu and press the X in the left corner

[split hill]

you don't they're with you for life

[jade quarry]

its tweaking

saying unable bc obj is completed

[winter steeple]

You have to sell you Juniper and Duhk Halic, then it gives you the option to leave

[wheat dune]

Diabolical.

[winter steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-butcher-gif-5041092981331887802

[stuck oasis]

Heyo

[winter steeple]

Guys i had a great idea for a soulframe boss

[split hill]

women?

[winter steeple]

She's a blind sword fighter afflicted by the mendicant corruption, and its consumed her arm, so she replaced it with a prosthetic that holds her long curved sword. And when you kill her, she embraces the ro- i mean corruption, and gets wings

she could have this special attack called Waterbird Ballet, and it would just be impossible to avoid

and she gets life steal

[random prism]

Ah, Malenia.

[winter steeple]

No idea who that is

[random prism]

Though waterfowl is far from unavoidable once you know her drift pattern.

[winter steeple]

im talking about my idea for a soulframe boss, Milinia, Blade of Jotar.

also, she's never been defeated, except for that time she rage quit after fighting her half-brother and his horse

[random prism]

I mean, she pretty much won there, just couldn't finish the job I guess.

[upbeat heart]

red hair perhaps?

[winter steeple]

Rad Danial, and his horse, Bennard.

these could be some great soulframe bosses i think

[split hill]

light, pure light, reflracted into a prism to create seven elemental forms

Water, Fire, Earth, Air, Lightning, Ice, and PLANT

[wheat dune]

Waiting for when soulframe will inevitably get weird with their pacts.

[winter steeple]

the bear that sits on people too normal for ya?

[wheat dune]

Actually yes

[split hill]

me too, closest is orengal projecting a wolf stand that is useless in boss fights

[wheat dune]

It'll be like warframe where all the kind of "yeah that make sense" frames were the very first few, then they started throwing stuff at the wall like "how about a magical surfing girl, or a goth lady with the power of ink and balloons"

[split hill]

ok a

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dancing-skeletons-boo-cartoon-gif-18326832313355216882

[winter steeple]

mmm big woman

[split hill]

love em

[wheat dune]

It'll get to that point. Then they'll release Soulframe: 0099 and we have to go back in time and team up with John Tethren and his jolly gang of protopacts

[compact talon]

Jane Tethren

[winter steeple]

I can't wait to see what Albert Enchanter has been up to

[compact talon]

Tethren was a woman

[winter steeple]

no, John Tethren is her son

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-peak-cinema-absolute-cinema-gif-2419960068189387292

[wheat dune]

Johniffer Tethren*

[winter steeple]

thats why hes a protopact and not a full pact

[compact talon]

Jonathan Tethren II (she probably made her husband take her name)

[split hill]

He is m ost well known for ruining the family name and becoming a drunk

[split hill]

Not unreasonable considering the cultures this game is inspired from

[winter steeple]

considering mora's romantic interest, it might be safer to assume tethren would have her wife take her last name lol

[winter steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-he-just-like-he-just-like-me-fr-meme-gif-573734217303447410

[split hill]

never got into alcohol but I am certainly a bloodline neder

[random prism]

I don't think we ever had a proto-pact stage, we just had the first envoys with the first pacts which were the wyld trio.

Back before they betrayed Alora and made all the fey leave.

[split hill]

how dare they betray the EMPRESS. my eternal loyalty to our empress

[compact talon]

but have you considered: screw the fae (cant use the unfriendly word)

[winter steeple]

You got games in your nightfold?

[wheat dune]

"I showed you my ruins pls respond"

[random prism]

We don't know why the trio decided to betray her, just that at least one, perhaps all three, regretted that choice after.

[compact talon]

idk man i feel okay betraying some blue child with clown eyelashes

[wheat dune]

Blue people in DE games, they must be evil. I don't make the rules.

[split hill]

she's got real big.... ruins

[winter steeple]

aura? no aura?

[split hill]

but... we're blue people

[winter steeple]

only a little

[compact talon]

*repentant blue people

[wheat dune]

[compact talon]

infact, i propose we cook up Garren rood

[split hill]

never serve the ode, glory to the fae

[compact talon]

STARS SEE ALL GRUUUL

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/starfire-koriandr-teen-titans-power-gif-15104642

[compact talon]

Bones to the soil, SPOILS TO THE SKYYYYYY

[winter steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-mighty-thor-jane-foster-mjolnir-lightning-gif-26164780

[compact talon]

Lord Synod help, the women, they are unionizing

[winter steeple]

Sinecure gearing up to lose a 10v1 to a mostly naked ecoterrorist with a bow and a knife

[winter steeple]

Synod is gonna send the Pinkertons

[wheat dune]

Gunna curdle their cocoa

I can't get that stupid voice like out of my head

[compact talon]

Banneret Kyle

hes gonna send Banneret Kyle

[wheat dune]

I had an o snap moment when I realized the banneret at the very first siege that holds the charge for the cannon is named Kylst

[split hill]

always

now that we got swimming when diving? and aquamanning

[gusty nexus]

just ask for water bending right away

[split hill]

Nahida?

[gusty nexus]

nahi, who? xD

[compact talon]

a puffin pact would go hard ngl

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/mhrw-raghavrao-carscene-kuch-nahi-gif-22238710

[molten moat]

Is it me or duelo's flintlock hitbox is a bit weird?

[split hill]

yes, especially in melee where it will miss point blank for reasons

[molten moat]

Exactly and when it does miss, it doesn't even hit where I was aiming or at least it feels like.

[split hill]

yep

@toxic tendon

[jade quarry]

key for siege fell into the abyss )':

fml

[late ginkgo]

I swam to that island once. Looked different to me though

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/nimona-nimona-meme-nimona-dance-netflix-dance-dance-meme-gif-12940449901340746700

[compact talon]

ye kya he bhai?

[simple mason]

Keep chat in English please Envoys

[split hill]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-me-fail-english-thats-unpossible-silly-gif-9591904459938205970

[signal frost]

.

[real jewel]

join the upcoming devstream for 30 minutes on twitch with ur account linked to get a free code

[simple mason]

You are in fact not allowed to be that guy sorry, no asking for keys

You can check the pinned message in this channel for how to get access to the game, as mentioned there will also be a devstream tomorrow for you to get a code just by watching for 30 minutes with a linked account

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1506672302279102605

[dawn shard]

does old english counts?

or ancient even?

or primodial english?

[simple mason]

Old English doesn't but Ode English does

[real jewel]

how do you switch factions?

[simple mason]

Chat to the other Enclave leaders, you'll need to have crafted their Talismans, Mora's Medallion, Sproutfolk Seed and Rose's Bodkin, first

Fragments come from common chests, you'll also need Sacred Shimmer which you can get from your current Enclave at rank 3

[latent furnace]

Me right now

[simple mason]

I mean

That's both tho

[real jewel]

what do the stars mean? do they correspond to how much standing ill get? and if so why is a 2 star bounty higher level then? also how do i know when ive hit the daily standing limit

[tacit pivot]

For me its the new features that is the big highlight.

[simple mason]

The stars indicate length which does influence standing gains, 1 star is one objective, 2 star is two, 3 star is three or four

You'll notice your standing bar no longer increases after you reach daily cap which is 16.000 IIRC

The 2 star is higher level here because I believe it's sending you to the Curlail Siege, which is a bit higher level than other enemy levels in that area

[real jewel]

does turning in the little items for standing also count towards this cap? cause i just did like 15k and ranked up to 3 for kith of kings

[simple mason]

Standing items bypass cap AFAIK

[real jewel]

thats nice

so all that matters when doing bounties is that i pick 3 star ones right? it doesnt matter the level im doing them at?

[simple mason]

The level also influences standing gains, both length and level matter, as does location, tales that end in dungeons give bonus standing.

[split hill]

should the devs add this?

[real jewel]

right so if i want to maximize my standing gains i should preferably head as north as possible and take votives from the tree

[simple mason]

You can accept multiple Votives as well so there's no real need to only do 3 stars

If you want to gain the most standing then yes high level areas would be better

[gusty nexus]

you can accept a 3-star, finish it and look for the NPC near completion area, if you're lucky you get a new 3-star

[real jewel]

nicee ok ok thanks guys

[gusty nexus]

for standing gains it also makes sense to not do votives you need an eternity to kill enemies

[simple mason]

I believe they took out the ones that have a large number of dungeon kills, the clear camps ones really aren't much slower than other objectives in my experience

[gusty nexus]

oh i meant more the mob level, when you just started the game you'd have a hard time killing 21+ enemies

[simple mason]

True but you shouldn't really be doing Votives in level 21 zones at that point either 😅

[latent furnace]

You're right I should've been more specific. Definitely would've made my unfunny meme funnier 🤣 But no I'm tired of walking everywhere

[dapper gorge]

Good time of day Envoys, Founders, Paragons and Stevens.

[solid fable]

happy thursday 🥳

[gusty nexus]

bro i'm lost, its thursday? xD

[solid fable]

sometimes, it is...

[simple mason]

In many ways, today is Thursday

[dapper gorge]

At times? Thursday

If you're into lightning, mayhaps Thor's Day.

[raw holly]

Jupiter day

[gusty nexus]

working from home makes delulu

[real jewel]

right now i can kill upto level 36 enemies fairly easily, level 30ish enemies do kill me kind of fast too but yes

also i think my map got bugged, i took a votive and accidentally started the organ on my way and now the votive's objectives are on my map but nothing happens when i go to them

time to relog?

[gusty nexus]

try relogging ye

[real jewel]

okay

also why doesnt the avakot guy's icon stay on the map i know he spawns near kith of kings enclave thats the only spot i can reliably find him at

[solid fable]

limited advertising budget

[compact talon]

*he wont pay the advertising team

[rancid remnant]

anyone remember the name of the old soulframe server?

[solid fable]

it should just be called "Soulframe Preludes" i believe

[real jewel]

it is yes

[stone cliff]

I AM HERE

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1058459630818304002/1497965452020678797/menacing_cat.gif

[thin matrix]

I a. Here

[real jewel]

um guys i went to dermark for a votive and now my sparrows just stuck in a random spot where do i go

[unborn jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[real jewel]

pls help

[gusty nexus]

whats the objective

[real jewel]

the end objective was to go to dermark undercity, then i did "what secrets" and after that disappeared the sparrows just stuck here

[amber wraith]

Oh so you completed the objective?

[real jewel]

i guess?

[frosty ore]

well, do you see that vent right there?

you might have to go in there.

(Joking)

[glacial torrent]

May i ask, does anyone have 2 invitation codes for me and my friend? Where can i find them? I still have no codes on my email and i can't find the date of devstream

[stone cliff]

tomorrow

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1506672302279102605

watch dev stream tmr you and your buddies

each get a code or access

need to watch for 30 min

have soulframe and twitch acc connected

[lilac steeple]

Thanks Zyrian

[stone cliff]

if you alr have access you get a code to share

if you dont you get access

that stream is gonna be lit so be sure to drop by

[glacial torrent]

Thank you so much!!!❤️

[lament spindle]

how is customization in soulframe?

[stone cliff]

for now very simple

[lament spindle]

is it outfit based or individual armor pieces

[stone cliff]

expect improvements on it in the fututre

[lament spindle]

i see

[white otter]

Individual

[stone cliff]

yep

[lament spindle]

awesome

[stone cliff]

you can transmog basically

you can apply the look of other armors to your equipped armor

this system is supposed to also come to weapons and talismans

character customization you have a bunch of faces

I think its like 10 faces?

I have no clue lol

[dim smelt]

is the zoom on the bow the blocking? or can i not block on bows and everything says i can

[stone cliff]

you can change skin tone hair style and color etc

[stone cliff]

yep

its harder to block with bows

its like each weapon grip has a default block window

and the bow window is the smallest

[crisp canopy]

hi

[lament spindle]

i see

[dim smelt]

yay :|

[stone cliff]

I dont play bow much lately

but usually I play bow with oscelda

bc I have bestone to freeze enemies in place and do more dmg + healing + stagger with birb atk

[dim smelt]

yes! someone else who uses birb

[stone cliff]

birb

https://tenor.com/view/birb-birbplswin-gif-17031411063756375009

[dim smelt]

birb

[stone cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/run-kill-you-creepy-laugh-every-second-you-are-not-running-im-only-getting-closer-bird-gif-22163455

[dim smelt]

0-0

okay, back to the game instead of getting distracted by birb

forgot i was charging my headphones tho

also how do i get different armor?

[real jewel]

man i just switched to bow and orengall and shifted my prism to grace after choosing tethren as my starter and holy crap i feel so much weaker

[stone cliff]

different drop locations

[real jewel]

the headshot damage is good on the bow definitely but other than that it lowk sucks

[stone cliff]

just like you farm weapons etc

[real jewel]

can someone guide me on what armour i should grind for and what weapons should i go for with orengall

[stone cliff]

arrow hail is by far the best smite proc in the game

and it does a lot of dmg aswell

[real jewel]

the heavy attack for bow?

[stone cliff]

yeah

[real jewel]

i see

[stone cliff]

you need smite chance totems tho

[real jewel]

i must have some

[stone cliff]

armors depend on your virtue alignment

[dim smelt]

just realized all my points are still in spirit cause i dont have the things to change it

[stone cliff]

that system is so shit

I hope they address it on the devstream tmr

I knew this would happen

[real jewel]

so i just built orengall and ive put my points split between spirit and grace, thats a good way to go right?

[stone cliff]

so general rule for loadout building is

[real jewel]

but i am very very weak like the level 36 enemies kill me in 2 hits

[stone cliff]

you chose a weapon
then put your virtues to have good weapon dmg
then chose a pact

orengall you play with either spirit or grace

[dim smelt]

i kinda like it, the fact that the points do that weird thing is annoying

[stone cliff]

or both if you can still have good dmg

the virtue buffs a specific ability

courage buffs the 1st ability, spirit the 2nd and grace the 3rd

this applies to every pact

[real jewel]

put my virtues to have good damage as in are you talking about the joineries and reforging weapons?

[stone cliff]

Im talking about what the weapon scales with

[real jewel]

oh i see

[stone cliff]

there are weapon requirements

and then they scale further above that

until they reach a dmg cap

the dmg cap depends on the weapon

[dim smelt]

does it have to be a perfect block on the bow?

[stone cliff]

no clue I never really blocked much on the bow lol

most of the time they were just dead

[real jewel]

how do you meet the virtue requirements? by equipping armor and via prism?

[stone cliff]

prisms dont exist anymore

armor scales based on your virtues

only thing contributing for your virtue amount is the talisman, pact perks, and virtue distribution

virtue points come from your MR lvl and you get 2 static points from quests

those static points you decide in the quest where they will be aligned (courage spirit or grace)

and they will always be on that alignemnt

to change them youll need to redo the quests

[real jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[stone cliff]

its too much info isnt it?

[real jewel]

this is kind of complicated ngl

[stone cliff]

yeahhh

[real jewel]

but thank you for helping

[stone cliff]

I just answered what you asked

I can try to make it simpler

[real jewel]

can you

[stone cliff]

maybe lol

also the wiki should be able to help you with this

[real jewel]

lol i dont want to burden you with it

yeah ill do some reading

[stone cliff]

check the virtue page

[real jewel]

thanks man

[stone cliff]

you mainlt need to check the virtue pact and weapon pages

that should be enough for the start

ytou can also check the armors if you want

[dim smelt]

im still wondering what those little blue things in the boss room of the crypt are

[stone cliff]

oh

community event to open a secret chamber

you need to shoot them in a specific order

you will get an armor set out of it

[dim smelt]

when i die in a crypt or the underground, i still get what i got right? i didnt just lose all that stuff?

idk if its like warframe missions or not

[stone cliff]

ehh good question

I have no clue

[dim smelt]

i mean, it wasnt anything TOO important

[stone cliff]

lemme see if the wiki says smth about it

I dont think we lose anything

but Im not sure

as I thought

only thing you lose in the crypt is the key you used to enter which makes sense lol

and youll need another key to reenter

but you dont lose any loot obtained inside the dungeon

[dim smelt]

okay thats good

[pearl beacon]

Oh no @zinc forge what are the tooltips doing

[stone cliff]

is that info wrong?

I hope not lol

[pearl beacon]

No no the info is up to date! It's just the funny line breaks on the crypt key and cogah elixir haha, we will fix

[stone cliff]

I mean its whatever

OH XD

I was here ready to take the blame

[dim smelt]

whats the wiki again?

[pearl beacon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[stone cliff]

basically a dictionary with everything about the game

every piece of info

made by the community for the community

Drackore is one of the wiki mages

[dim smelt]

OH i kept putting avocat and kept getting french lawyer things

[pearl beacon]

it's like if orlick finished writing his book instead of just sitting there all the time

[stone cliff]

LMAO

pretty much

[stone cliff]

I think theres a french version of it not sure tho

[dim smelt]

avocat is french for lawer

i got the translation when i went lookign for the wiki

[stone cliff]

@pearl beacon youve been working overtime I see

[dim smelt]

that should have been my first warning lol

[pearl beacon]

There is yeah! Can't link it because it's not whitelisted but Soulframewiki FR, those guys are awesome

[pearl beacon]

Getting as much done as I can before the devstream knocks my socks off tomorrow

[stone cliff]

shouldnt get p15 tmr

so I think you will have some time to start adding the new stuff lmao

I feel a bit bad for oreo aswell lol

I think p15 will change a ton of stuff

he will have to mess with LG a lot prob lol

as you will with the weapon pages XD

[pearl beacon]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, especially if we learn a lot about two things in particular - the trading, and the looting - those are gonna be huge for soulf!

[stone cliff]

and trading page etc

[stone cliff]

yeah

man Im so anxious/worried to what might come out of it istg

[pearl beacon]

hahaha same I think a lot is riding on how DE do the whole upgrading thing

like what is the pity system / maximum possible grind required to get your ideal version of each weapon

[stone cliff]

I do hope DE watched Brozime's vid

he basically "fixed" most of the stuff

at least for now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_zwbB5AyXs

here in case anyone wants to give it a look

[pearl beacon]

Oh I didn't catch it yet, what did he do like suggest how the p15 loot stuff could be implemented?

[stone cliff]

lower tier orsts would be dismantled into frags

like officer frags, military frags etc

then you would need a set amount of 1 tier to get 1 item of the above

like 3-1 ratio for example

like 3 stock gives 1 military

3 military 1 officer

3 officer - 1 noble etc

and with X amount of frags you could upgrade the craftwork

with this a new system would need to be added to add perks to our weaps on tuvalkane

and maybe another QoL system to autoscrap weaps based on our settings

like bellow this autoscrap

he also mentioned that the current normal weapons we own say that they are stock versions

telling everyone that our inventory is outdated and we need to farm everything again will be really bad

so I dunno how they will fix it tbh

[pearl beacon]

love this, I was thinking just dismantle them into general components/materials (and higher craftworks would give higher amounts) but craftwork frags works great too, and the idea of merging upwards is always very fun (like upgrading your arcanes in wf)

[pearl beacon]

yeah it will be really interesting to see, I guess if I had to do it I'd think of the average time investment to get a weapon now, and compare what that time investment would yield (on average) in the new system

vasp is easy to get, so maybe everyone's vasp can become military with randomised tempers

but gathannan? a horror to get, so I sincerely hope ours become legendary (again with randomised tempers I think would be fine, especially if there is some way to upgrade/manage your tempers in P15)

so maybe it will be like that, they get grandfathered into the system based on how rare they were in P14 and earlier

[stone cliff]

yeha

basically this system would keep the high tier orsts be still good loot bc it would give you a high tier frag

that to get you would need a ton of low tier orsts to get

[stone cliff]

that would be interesting

bc straight up giving legendary to every weapon seems unfair tbh

they could also make the frags not be weapon specific

which might be the case

an if we think of weapons in general we get a ton of weapon drops consistently

like non specific weaps

[dim smelt]

"oh i need to go to birdies bog to get jaden drops" no me, i need to siege places to change my virtues

im struggling focusing on one thing

[umbral coral]

hi

[dim smelt]

hello

how did i mess up the siege so badly i cant even get into the fort in the first place?!

[unreal oar]

Hey guys, when is the next opportunity to get early access keys?

[dim smelt]

i believe its every tuesday

dont quote me on that

[restive coyote]

every Wednesday at around 11AM EST

[smoky dew]

Good evening, how can i recharge the rune skill?

[surreal basalt]

Tomorrow as a twitch drop from the devstream

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1506672302279102605

[oblique pawn]

Which siege are you doing?

[pearl beacon]

Evening! You've just gotta do pull smites on enemies

[unreal oar]

Ty so much 🥳

[dim smelt]

i was trying to do curlail, but the mini-boss outside didnt drop the cannon ball

[oblique pawn]

Odd. Did you by chance kill him near the edge of the bridge or in an awkward spot?

If he really did drop nothing you should be able to relog to try again

[dim smelt]

i killed him on the hill, idk if theres a range he has to die in to register or something, but i looked everwhere and nothing

[muted owl]

I’ve lost a bag in the water when I was doing a troll run and punching him to death. It’s possible it just fell into a void spot.

[oblique pawn]

Yeah, the weird thing with loot is that it has physics

So sometimes if they die, especially on a hill, it will roll into a weird spot, and if it clips awkwardly it might fall into the subocean

[dim smelt]

ah okay

well, ive already diverted my path to the bog so now it'll wait

[stone cliff]

I keep liking more and more of your methods

thats why youre a fellow avakot hater aswell

punching with tethren is funny af tho

[muted owl]

We were just messing around. Weapons tossed, run the fort unarmed. Was good for late night chaos.

[stone cliff]

bc it does dmg aswell lol

[oblique pawn]

Does that mean shields were cheating? XD

(shields best weapon grip fite me)

[muted owl]

Yeah… the intention was to use fists and see how long it took for us to die, but only tested on curlail due to the lateness of the run.

[dim smelt]

idk why but i feel like i remember seeing something like "unaware enemies glow in your sight" or something like that. did i dream that?

[muted owl]

Sirin passive

Use your soul sight

[dim smelt]

is sirin a pact?

[white ginkgo]

Why can't I remember bromius' passive?

[white ginkgo]

Yeah

[oblique pawn]

There's two

One that steals armour on hit

[dim smelt]

cause if so when the heck could i have seen that? i dont even have sirin

[oblique pawn]

Another that reflects damage blocked by armour back

[oblique pawn]

It also got added as an Orlick upgrade

[oblique pawn]

Orlick quest reward upgrade

[white ginkgo]

I honestly have no memory of either LOL

[oblique pawn]

Same effect

For some reason

[white otter]

does sirin still have it actually?

[oblique pawn]

Really makes Sirin feel underwhelming

[white ginkgo]

I've been neuralized

[oblique pawn]

To our knowledge yes

[white otter]

huh

[dim smelt]

oh

[white otter]

wacky

[oblique pawn]

Hopefully not for much longer though?

It kinda is pointless

[white ginkgo]

P15: Sirin now gives grace an extra .6 damage per grace point

Just really make grace absurd

[dim smelt]

do i have to activate it? cause i cant see the enemies even with the quest complete

yes i claimed the quest

[oblique pawn]

You have to use soul sight and there is a limited range on it

Good for sneaking

[white ginkgo]

It seems to be a fairly low range

[oblique pawn]

Lets you see through walls mostly

[dim smelt]

i hope theres a distance upgrade

soon

[white ginkgo]

Also, I was correct. I have a cold

[dim smelt]

bromius is getting forged!!!!

[muted owl]

Time to rump thump

[dim smelt]

i love how my first craftable pact is still waiting to be crafted, also get better soon lime

[muted owl]

Punch it in the face. No sickness!

[dim smelt]

ill find out what that means tomorrow ish

what is that growling i keep hearing in the bog?

[white otter]

go investigate

[marsh fox]

Guys

Grim dawn just announced its 3rd dlcs release date

[dim smelt]

i found the source, but its just a patch of corruption

[white otter]

wat dat ._.

[white otter]

it's not night is it...

[marsh fox]

The best isometric arpg since diablo 2

And it came out in like 2016. So a dlc today is kinda kewl

[dim smelt]

oh, its the bear isnt it

[white otter]

or stag, but yes

[dim smelt]

no way im 2 short on jaden drops DX

1!

im okay now :D

nope, nvm, i need will-o-fronds now

[worldly bay]

Meanwhile on the Mestre's ship:

[heady gale]

Have fun.

hunting down Will o Wings is the most fun you can have in the game!

[dim smelt]

its night, its still snoring

[white parcel]

game looks cool

should i try it

[real jewel]

um guys these icons are stuck on my map synods finest and other stuff but i go there and theres nothing there nothing happens, ive tried relogging too, what do i do

[olive star]

looks like a broken faction tale, you can abandon it in your journal

[real jewel]

omg thank you ive been waiting so long i didnt know you could click on the thing and abandon it

[craggy fossil]

[restive coyote]

• not allowed to ask for keys here
• yes

[slow acorn]

im low key surprised there hasn't been another minor hotfix for just bugs since May 21st...

[rose mortar]

since they said they're trying to push p15 before tennocon, i imagine they're going to try to get it out in june, so they're probably working more on that than hotfixes

[candid pawn]

I'm still wishing that we had a bug status board managed by DE

[woeful sequoia]

guys Im a new here been stuck in this I try to hold q and mouse 1 but it doesn't work

[slow acorn]

sure comrad I can support that

[woeful sequoia]

is it a bug or what?

[slow acorn]

and any & all MORE communication & more transparency

I always get pushed back were in alpha when I ask for that lol

[simple mason]

Are you holding both Q and LMB? Because the binding is hold Q > then press LMB

[granite iris]

Hello 👋

[woeful sequoia]

yes I done, I just have to go up next but I didn't notice. Thanks

[simple mason]

You can make a topic in #1438224662344761345

[prime grove]

ty u

[summer quail]

Is it just me ? But i think staff weapons are all the same and boring ,just re skins of eachother

[feral fractal]

You're not wrong. The charged attacks are mostly the same too except on either Erstroot or Silistavf. I forget which.

[keen citrus]

new here, hello ✌️😎

[feral fractal]

Sup

[keen citrus]

hi there @feral fractal, not much just chilling atm. how about you?

[thin matrix]

ah crap i had an auto clicker still open when i played soul frame, probably going to be banned again 🙁

[surreal basalt]

That goes for most weapon classes tbh

Long blades blades have the most variations but even then it isnt a lot

Long sword, cleaver and rapier

[dim smelt]

do i make coffee and continue playing the game or do i nap?

[unkempt canopy]

Anyone want to educate me as to why it's been nearly a year and I still can't buy the founders pack due to error 3032?

[dim smelt]

security reasons, or your account was flagged is what i got when i searched up the error code, it may just be an issue on your part

[unkempt canopy]

It's been a year man. And I literally can't buy it on any browser. Nor with any payment type.

[dim smelt]

did you clear cache's and cookies?

[unkempt canopy]

many many times.

[dim smelt]

then idk

[fast crescent]

I bet we get P15 either 1st week or 3rd week of June I would bet maybe June 18th

Considering Warframes update might be the 2nd week, they’ll wanna avoid launching the same week

[unkempt canopy]

Hey DE, if you guys read this. You seriously need to solve this issue, I know I'm not the only person that's inadvertently barred from purchasing your game.

[dim smelt]

you can also get the code from the many giveaways, its free to download, just cant play it without a code

[stone cliff]

you dont need to purchase to play

watch the devstream tmr live for 30 min to get a key

[fast crescent]

Have you contacted support? And also the payment processor support?

[unkempt canopy]

Yup, and apparently DE themselves can't do anything about it.

[stone cliff]

and then you can try to do the purchase through the in game shop to see if the same issue happens (this is if you still want to buy a founder pack)

here is the time of stream https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1506672302279102605

[dim smelt]

i mean, they cant really fix an issue on your end, even if it is widespread, its probably not the site's issue

[unkempt canopy]

Highly doubt it's on my end. I can make purchases for literally anything else in the world except for this one place? Nah, it's not on my end.

[unkempt canopy]

Thank you!

[analog plover]

it could also be an Xsolla issue since they handle the payment

[pearl beacon]

Silistavf has both a unique light moveset and heavy cast

(not that it makes a huge difference to playstyle ofc, just a neat aesthetic touch imo)

[feral fractal]

It'd be nice if there were more weapons like that

I know its a different game, but Elden Ring had differing movesets among their weapon classes too. Even if two weapons had the same moveset, their attack speeds were usually different.

[dim smelt]

i was surprised when i noticed the odiac had basically the same attack speed, i thought it would be faster with less dmg

[fast crescent]

We are supposedly going to get a combat arts manual that might work like stances in Warframe, but we haven’t heard anything in almost an entire year

[feral fractal]

I hope it works like the old stances. The new ones are far too simple.

Now to be fair, that does make sense considering we can freely modify our attack speed in warframe, but we don't have it to that extent in soulframe.

[fast crescent]

All we have is one image, and a little tidbit from last Tennocon 😅 it could’ve changed so much since then

[marsh fox]

Yes

Especially since it's like 5 bucks on sale. I do highly recommend the dlcs though as they add a lot

[feral fractal]

We'll just have to wait and see. The fact that the devs are experimenting with different heavy attacks and alternate move sets means they are thinking about it.

[oblique pawn]

Error 3032 sounds like an Xsolla error

You should contact their support to see if you can get it sorted

[slow acorn]

sry Jamon which game is $5?

(always looking for deals)

[oblique pawn]

Elden Ring it looks like?

[slow acorn]

ima assume that's a typo then ER is NEVER $5 hahahaha

plus I have it already anywhoo I digress

[oblique pawn]

Oh, no, it's Grim Dawn

Apparently

[slow acorn]

I have that as well

it's super amazing

[oblique pawn]

Anyways

Hoponsoulf

[slow acorn]

Canada beat US in IIHF hockey mens quarterfinals 4-0 Naito!

onto the semi finals!

[untold tiger]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[hushed rampart]

John Erstroot

[stray pond]

.

[frosty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/wilfred-weird-looking-cat-gif-14205382

-# do your taxes

[unkempt canopy]

Waiting for Xsolla to let me know what triggered the security code so I can put it in here for reference.

[dapper gorge]

GToDEFPaS.

[muted owl]

Sir Steven, how many times has this been posted?

[dapper gorge]

General "good time of day"'s? Hundreds

[muted owl]

I mean valid! But…you could just…copy/paste, you know?

[dapper gorge]

Illegal.

[muted owl]

Never

[dapper gorge]

Fun fact, I have said it enough that both the extended and abbreviated versions comes up in my phone's auto suggestions

[muted owl]

Somehow not surprised.

[dapper gorge]

Also, looking up from me with "good time of day":

[muted owl]

I like the consistency

[stone cliff]

GToDtYtS.

[dapper gorge]

I will actually be out of town for about a week coming up here

Heading up north near the Canadian border, we'll see if my service holds up enough to continue my daily ritual

[stone cliff]

oh no

what about soulf

[dapper gorge]

Alas, I shall be unable to hoponsoulf during that time

Shall be too busy touching grass and whatnot

[stone cliff]

theres grass in alca

[dapper gorge]

Befriending small animals or something

[stone cliff]

a ton of it

hmm

real life soulf seems kinda cool

will feel a bit empty without ode or avakots to slaughter

[dapper gorge]

Go to a grocery store, plenty of avakots

[raw holly]

what they made animals in real life copying from soulf? that's so cool!

[dapper gorge]

Cops get called if you start slaughtering them though...

[stone cliff]

IKR

[stone cliff]

hmmmm depends

[dapper gorge]

I'm not wasting dracs bribing shopkeeps to allow me to slaughter the avakots

[stone cliff]

depends on country and animal being slaughtered

[raw holly]

avocado slaughter

[stone cliff]

here we have a wildboar epidemic so we can slaughter them all we want lol

its common for ppl to go sports hunting boar

[white otter]

Avocado trials yes

[steel turtle]

how do i defeat soul of cinder solo

i use orengall pact with the royal tines as my primary

[white otter]

the ghosty knight in front of a staircase leading up to a door in the rockwall?

[steel turtle]

I've been having a problen w the boss especially if the dude starts with his sorcery kit

[stone cliff]

man hearing avocado trials made me remind of the trial of grass from TW3, and after that imediately imagine an avocado witcher

[white otter]

lol

[stone cliff]

hmm

[olive star]

saw the upcoming dlc?

[stone cliff]

whos the soul of cnder again?

[olive star]

's gon be so gud

[stone cliff]

yep

[stone cliff]

yep

[steel turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-3-ds3-mami-gif-6936603819754128260

[calm epoch]

Lord gwyn

[white otter]

guessing a result of translation from Ashen Spirit iirc which is the knight at kith of kings entrance

[stone cliff]

OH

I one shot his ass lol

[white otter]

[stone cliff]

hmm lemme think of ways to help you

which pacts do you have?

[dapper gorge]

Probably three ways to go

1. Switch weapons to something that keeps you a bit more out of danger

2. Switch pacts to something that gives you more sustain (orengall is pretty bad in that aspect)

[stone cliff]

thing is orengall has aggro from the wolfies

[dapper gorge]

3. Learn his attack pattern more so you can parry

[stone cliff]

so he shouldnt even be hit by anything

[dapper gorge]

Assuming they can survive long enough, sure. And heal on smite with the increased smite rate from the other ability should be okay sustain

Also might be worth making sure your armor is optimized for your virtues

[frosty ore]

Oh hey, thawtide came early.

[dapper gorge]

||I'll probably be hopping on after work||

[white otter]

when did you get rid of the ode'n weatherers?

[frosty ore]

since a week ago

yea they didn't pay their rent so i had to kick them out.

[white otter]

wild

no not wyld

[winter steeple]

Why is Gawth on fire?

[dapper gorge]

Cogah Cogah Cogah

[winter steeple]

Thank you, Steven

[white ginkgo]

You're tripping balls on mushrooms

[winter steeple]

that moment when you accidently use agaric powder isntead of garlic powder

[distant bane]

yummy

[winter steeple]

Thank you, Digital Extremes Sam.

[distant bane]

[winter steeple]

we literally don't lol

they are gone, he's just a hater

[craggy fossil]

[frosty ore]

I mean if someone broke into my house acting like they own the place i'd be a bit angry at their bloodline as well.

[winter steeple]

yeah, but like, the ode are a different group of invading colonists

No affiliation

[frosty ore]

dont think it matters to him

[white ginkgo]

He's a bit senile

[winter steeple]

yeah, bro is just an S-tier hater

[frosty ore]

no, you're just a ode lover 🙂

(we know)

[winter steeple]

i enjoy their weapons lol

especially the adex

[random prism]

Yeah I just treat Fenn as an old ghost person obsessed with the enemies he faced, so he imprints them over ours.

Even if the Ode have literally nothing to do with the Cassids, it is another occupying force.

So the sentiment is vaguely applicable.

[winter steeple]

Do we know what the ode's planet is named?

[random prism]

I don't think we have any details about that, no.

[frosty ore]

hmm....depends if their home planet still exists (since they like to take everything)

[random prism]

All we know is that the Ode aren't used to Alca's gravity, so it was likely smaller.

Given that lighter atmosphere and less gravity often goes hand in hand with smaller planet.

[frosty ore]

true

[random prism]

And that it was suffused with Ichor, most likely. If it was so prevalent in both the air and water that their race evolved such a dependency on it, it was likely just a common substance across the entire damn planet.

Not even a dependency, it'd be like saying humans are dependent on oxygen, like yeah obviously.

But for it to be so integral to their biology, it'd have to have been everywhere.

[frosty ore]

oh god now I have an itching feeling that the planet is alive (Ichor corruption)...

[random prism]

And it was likely dry, as Alca is also too humid for them.

Their gear superficially rusts cus of the moisture in Alca's air.

[frosty ore]

true.

also the weather control things

[random prism]

The Organs? Those just draw Ichor up from the water table, where it gets put via the moaners, and vaporizes it into the atmosphere.

They're tryna terraform the atmosphere to make it breathable for them.

[winter steeple]

Maybe a rocky planet where life emerged from oceans of Ichor?

[random prism]

I don't even necessarily think that their planet has to be sad, the ichor corruption we see probably just stems from a very bad interaction between native life and an invasive substance.

On a planet where it was just the main thing? It was probably much more tame, environments revolving around it.

It was just also probably smaller and pretty dry.

So perhaps a bit harsher than Alca.

[random prism]

Perhaps something like this yeah.

[winter steeple]

maybe they stated out as human-ish, but they adapted over time to their own pollution, until it finally killed their world

[random prism]

The ichor isn't just pollution though, at least we don't have anything suggesting that.

It is simply a substance that their biology needs and they want to introduce into the environment.

To me, that sounds naturally occuring, even if very alien from Alca's point of view.

[winter steeple]

I do think their home planet must be effectively unlivable now (even to them) because why would SYNOD SKY KING be living on one of his colony worlds? A king would generally not want to leave the safety of the heart of their empire.

[random prism]

He may be on campaign. Keep in mind this is high fantasy in space, they may lack the technological infrastructure that'd normally allow such long-range communication and require a figurehead on-site to manage things.

We just don't know enough to assume one or the other.

We also don't know much about Ode'n society beyond it seeming largely caste-based, and the military vaguely privatized.

Or so it seems from bits and bobs.

For all we know Synod is just in charge of this specific slice of Ode and the Ode just tend to view the highest caste as god-adjacent.

[winter steeple]

yeah, but like, King George didnt have a floating palace above Massachusetts lol

[random prism]

True, but the scale of the campaign here is exponentially larger, I'm just saying it could mean more than one thing.

Hell, I rememebr someone saying that Rovgot was an Ode god cus of the 'In Rovgot's name' the Ode sometimes say.

A stray thought of mine is that it could just be akin to something like 'remember the Alamo'.

We don't know when the Rovgot tower was blasted down, it could've been in the intitial conflict or sometime after and they're just mentioning it out of spite.

So it could actually just be the name of a particular sky palace or tower that fell that they're still mad about.

Unless we have some other lore somewhere providing more detail.

[white ginkgo]

Is synod the leader of the Ode? For some reason I thought he was just very high-ranking

[random prism]

They mention him with great reverance but beyond that we do not actually know, as far as I'm aware.

[white otter]

i'd assume Synod's not the true leader but like maybe the leader of the part that's only at Alca?

[random prism]

Could just be the leader of this particular group, could be a king on campaign, could be whatever.

[random prism]

Yeah that was my first thought.

[winter steeple]

Kings are generally leaders lol

[random prism]

King vs Emperor, those terms have existed at the same time in the same society.

Emperor is the big one ruling over multiple territories, while Kings reside in their respective zones.

[winter steeple]

could be a previous king, maybe even one who died during an invasion. like his death might have rallied the ode into being more colonialist

[random prism]

Like the Roman Empire still had Kings here and there who had pledged to the Emprie.

And there was still an Emperor above them.

[winter steeple]

if that were the case, you'd expect him to have a regional title like general, lord, etc

[winter steeple]

they werent part of the empire tho, they were allied kingdoms

[white otter]

could also be that those kinds of leaders would just get specific names given to them by the "higher" leader or something such as Synod for example

[white ginkgo]

where is he referred to as king?

[atomic fractal]

They call him the Sky King

[winter steeple]

Synod Sky King? literally something the ode say constantly lol

[white ginkgo]

I honestly have zero memory of that

[atomic fractal]

You'll start hearing it everywhere now lol

[white otter]

oh true yeah

[random prism]

It's happened several times in several ways, like the German empire and Holy Roman empire, I was just giving an example.

[winter steeple]

Its up there with "More grease for the soil!"

[random prism]

The point is that king can very well be used for someone who is high up there but not in charge of the Ode as an entire race.

[vivid hare]

where can i view my characters stats like HP and armor?

[winter steeple]

yeah, i just dont imagine the ode would have a set up like that. they seem like a very direct hierarchy type society

[oblique pawn]

Should also be noted he is called "Sky King"

It's unclear if that means there could be other kings of other titles/domains

[random prism]

The arsenal.

[oblique pawn]

Like a Star King or Home King

[vivid hare]

yes but whre in the arsenal

[random prism]

Your HP is visible when hovering over your virtues section in the top right, in the toppest rightest you see your armor values.

Both total and individual.

[oblique pawn]

Your Health can be seen below your Virtues Slider as well

[winter steeple]

What da dog doin?

[oblique pawn]

Your Armour total is the number in the top right, with the breakdown attached to that number on the left into Physical Armour, Magickal Armour, and Stability

[oblique pawn]

She's here to give you a gift!

[frosty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/good-girl-gif-15424817858113615185

[winter steeple]

she looks smaller than when she does her take downs

[white otter]

oh... yeah... wooooooo! or something

[winter steeple]

why

[white otter]

does look smaller than back when she was in the nightfold aswell...

[white otter]

because i can

[winter steeple]

Are you gonna make 100 Oryn & umbr's

[random prism]

Hey I can make over 400 vasps.

Since it's only 1 frag per, lol.

[white otter]

only 400? pfff

[random prism]

Pretty sure I can arm the Midrathian resistance myself at this point.

[random prism]

Like 430-something, yeah, still low compared to some.

[winter steeple]

poor

[random prism]

My highest is over 540 bodkins still.

[white otter]

[winter steeple]

i have 318 Rose's Bodkin frags

[white otter]

i will also mention my 12 spare seathorn fragments to bully people having a hard time getting it

[random prism]

I only reacquirred it yesterday lol.

After at least 60 T3 votives for a single frag.

It was pain.

[silent cargo]

Still looking for seathorn down for some bullying

[white otter]

nah wtf man im outta here

[stone cliff]

it took me 100+ runs to get my seathron crafted

its like 3 frags right?

[oblique pawn]

3 frags yeah

[winter steeple]

I was a ghost/undead themed pact when this years halloween event comes around

[white otter]

took me like... 5-10 tales to get it and i didn't even notice until someone mentioned the thing and i looked at my inventory

[fast crescent]

I hope they allow us to smelt down extra fragments towards upgrading tempers/craftworks

[oblique pawn]

Tbh kinda expect extra fragments to either be turned into materials or just removed.

Hard to say what will happen

[white otter]

but.... random old depreciated items to collect D:

such as old joineries D:

[oblique pawn]

Consider: motes

[winter steeple]

Shoulda stayed in the rovgot ruins, my guy

[white ginkgo]

Wazzard of Wastes is the one who speaks to us in the ruins, Wraith of Wastes is an agari

[white otter]

basically identical

[white ginkgo]

Clear difference: One doesn't have a book

[winter steeple]

they sound the same tho

[stone cliff]

I do hope we get a scrap system

[white otter]

do we actually get properly rid of wazzard in waste bear?

[stone cliff]

it will prob be one of the best solutions

[oblique pawn]

Could be scrap, could be just using spares directly.

[stone cliff]

at least that I can think off

[oblique pawn]

Either would work okay, though one gluts inventory a bit more

[stone cliff]

then add a way to add perks on tuvalkane

[winter steeple]

I think they are supposed to be the same person honestly.

[stone cliff]

the scrap in my eyes would work like any weapon scraps into the same item

then you have different rarities of scrap

like stock scrap, military scrap etc

[white ginkgo]

Wraith just seems to be a way for us to fight him again

[stone cliff]

and you can use x stock frags to get 1 military

x military for 1 officer etc

[oblique pawn]

In the end, the thing that worries us is that the new system is supposed to have fewer fragments and make them matter more. Switching to that while allowing old fragments to be grandfathered in just sounds like a nightmare of older accounts getting a huge jump over anyone just starting.

[stone cliff]

yeah I dont know

dont know what will happen tbh

one of the things Im most scared about is what will happen to our owned weapons

[vivid hare]

is 30 the max lvl for a pact do i get nomore skillpoints?

[stone cliff]

atm they are at stock (as a placeholder I hope)

[oblique pawn]

Could maybe see them letting use use old fragments to craft stock versions or maybe trade in fragments at a rate of lime 10:1 or smth

[oblique pawn]

That's the max, yes

[vivid hare]

ok im reskilling then

[oblique pawn]

Wyld pacts can get more as the points add onto the base pact points up to a total of 60

[vivid hare]

cau sei thought i was gonna get more points

[stone cliff]

bc I think it will be really bad if DE just comes and say, "well your entire inventory is uselss now go refarm every weapon in the game again"

[oblique pawn]

Ehh...it's not like we really lost anything though?

[stone cliff]

so Im really hyped and anxious for tmr tbh

[oblique pawn]

They just added better versions

[stone cliff]

we did

[vivid hare]

oh how do i do that?

is there a potato equivalent?

[stone cliff]

like I talk from my perspective now

I own every weapon in the game on my inventory

[oblique pawn]

Wyld Pacts are currently only available from founders, and will come to the game for all players at a later date

[vivid hare]

i see

[stone cliff]

having to refarm everything bc mine will all be stock is a bit bad imo

[vivid hare]

i havent actually looked at the founder packs yet

are they still available?

[stone cliff]

but yeah

I trust in DEs judgement

[oblique pawn]

Yep!

[stone cliff]

Im still a bit anxious for what will be done tho

as far as I remember DE never let us down with these types of systems

[white ginkgo]

Turn every fragment into a weapon. Flood our inventories

[stone cliff]

and when they did they always conpensated so

[oblique pawn]

It's not ideal, but it would be a good way to make sure the new systems get tested thoroughly. Could see them doing arcs as compensation at least.

[stone cliff]

wouldnt be surprised if they got turned into scrap

[white ginkgo]

1 arc per fragment lost

[winter steeple]

I feel like we've just got too many totems.

[winter steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/make-it-rain-money-money-make-it-rain-flick-money-gif-8890135915732568830

[stone cliff]

I think they mentioned on p14 devstream that they planned to mess with totems aswell no?

maybe tmr they mention it

[winter steeple]

selling totems is annoying, searching through them is annoying, having 2 for each animal is annoying. the system just feels sloppy the more i interact with it

[oblique pawn]

They said we're getting Totems and Rune 2.0

[stone cliff]

yeah I thought so

[quaint wharf]

I will be excited for the day they announce what they have been cooking for runes/ totems 2.0

[stone cliff]

the totems in their core its a good/different ideia

[stone cliff]

but they are not ideal the way they are rn

[white ginkgo]

Get excited, it's probably tomorrow

[winter steeple]

gotta love the old "fantasy is when I's are replaced with Y's" trope

[quaint wharf]

Actually the goat 💚 I haven't seen this yet

[oblique pawn]

Votives and Tales look like they're getting locked in at least

[vivid hare]

does the founder shop page not accept german zipcodes???

[oblique pawn]

So that should bring a bit of stability

[oblique pawn]

It looks like you might have gotten redirected to the American payment by mistake?

[winter steeple]

and theyre in a really great spot

[white ginkgo]

That's the american payment portal

[winter steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/godblessamerica-america-usa-gif-1955659946067674628

[oblique pawn]

Hopefully the last few changes are just adding more objectives and variety

The spice of life and all that

[vivid hare]

germna page also doenst fix it

[stone cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[quaint wharf]

As an American I can confirm this is real /s

[oblique pawn]

Because your account region might be set to the US...do you use a VPN?

[stone cliff]

as a non murican thats what I imagine murica is like

[winter steeple]

howd you find a video of me?!

[vivid hare]

i dont use a VPN where do i check account region?

[oblique pawn]

You'll probably have to reach out to support

[white ginkgo]

Made a german account and it looks like it just wants an american zipcode if you use paypal

[stone cliff]

grab a random murican zip code lol

[vivid hare]

i hate how hard website smake it to send support a direct message this is the worst part of the internet

[stone cliff]

I had no issues but maybe zipcodes here share the same format so I got lucky lol

[hard river]

ping the wh

[oblique pawn]

https://support.soulframe.com/

This might help

[white ginkgo]

It's only letting me use a few german zipcodes for some reason?

some work, some do not

[stone cliff]

thats funny lol

[white ginkgo]

It's also giving me different sales tax depending on the zipcode, but i assume that's normal?

[stone cliff]

thats even crazier

[vivid hare]

well i made my tiket

the ybetter respondi wanna get in on being a founder after missing out with warframe

[white ginkgo]

I've tested 50~ zip codes and only like four of them didn't work

[vivid hare]

well i guess DE specifically hates my small german village

[white ginkgo]

You could try using a larger city that is nearby? All that zipcode does is redirect you to paypal where you pay like normal

[winter steeple]

ONE MOREEEEEEE

[stone cliff]

yup

afaik your receipt ios based on the paypal info

[frosty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/high-quality-diagonally-spinning-rat-spinning-rat-rat-spin-gif-26228806

[white otter]

needs to be of higher quality

[vivid hare]

so

[white otter]

is one of the words in the english language yes

[vivid hare]

witha great rune my weapon will have 1 defence 1 utility and 2 attack totem slots right?

im trying to plan my build

[white otter]

depends on the rune as to which totem slot type it adds

[vivid hare]

treefeller

[frosty ore]

Great rune?

this elden ring now?

[vivid hare]

whatever its called

[white otter]

treefell the rune yes

[vivid hare]

whatever the good version of rune is

[white otter]

for the heavy weapons yes

[vivid hare]

is physical armor or magic armor more valuable?

[white otter]

generally you face more melee enemies so physical in that way

but depends on the circumstances

[winter steeple]

Thank you, Solar_Phoenix01

[winter steeple]

"Foul Envoy, in search of the Moonsteel Orst-III. Emboldened by the flame of ambition. Hrah! Someone must extinguish thy flame. Let it be Bator the Tempest!"

[frosty ore]

The legendary Moonsteel Orst-III, Wielded by non other than Harold, the herald of synod.

[winter steeple]

Guys I had an idea for a soulframe boss fight

[modern crest]

Hail Herald Harold!
Hip hip!

[winter steeple]

Near the start of the game, you'd encounter Bator, a suspisciously envoy shaped enemy that blocks the way forward. No relation of course to bayor

[frosty ore]

clearly his ichor mimic

Dies by my hand all the same.

[winter steeple]

well we gotta return his sword, don't we?

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-dmc-dmc4-dante-nero-gif-4747560

[frosty ore]

The only viable way to return his sword: straight through the heart

[winter steeple]

I wonder how Bayor lost the Paragon in the first place

considering envoys can summon their weapons to their hand

[frosty ore]

probably got it taken away from him after joining synod.

Not impossible

[winter steeple]

maybe

but engraving "Return to bayor" on it suggests that he knew he could lose it

We don't write things like that on our weapons, so why would he

[feral fractal]

Maybe we're just a different kind of Envoy

[frosty ore]

we're just Built different lol

[feral fractal]

We have powers the others don't

Or maybe we're the only Envoy. Anyone can make a Pact, but only one can be THE Envoy.

[frosty ore]

I mean do we even know our own power?
The abilities we use are from pacts based off omen beasts, and other fey to give some examples

[winter steeple]

i doubt that, bayor is specifically refered to as an Envoy, and there are references to other tempests

[feral fractal]

We can undo Corruption. That seems to be a power the others haven't displayed (yet).

[frosty ore]

isn't our grandfather (in game) an envoy as well?

or, was.

(He's probably dead)

[winter steeple]

he was, yes

blue arm and all

i wonder what his pact was

maybe the Moose omen beast that revives us at the beginning of the game

[winter steeple]

i mean, we haven't see anyone do it, but theres no reason to assume other envoys cant do the same

[gaunt flame]

are envoys not born to slay corruption one way or another being 'feykin' and all or is that just us

[random prism]

Yeah, the 'haven't displayed yet' doesn't really mean anything when this is a pre-alpha, thus an extremely limited snip, and we are our character so ofc we'd only see what we ourselves do.

No real reason to show us what this other guy way over there is doing day to day.

[random prism]

We don't know what they're born for but the first envoys, the wyld trio, were given weapons and/or powers straight from Alora, the fey empress.

So being an envoy is something that happens, we know not yet for sure whether it's hereditary and spread out over time or if it's just something that randomly happens.

[gaunt flame]

I see, I think it makes sense though - I can't imagine any other use the fey empress could have aside from being guardians

[random prism]

So they, at least originally, were not designed in some way to fight corruption.

And purpose or not, they have complete free will, given that the first envoys betrayed Alora.

Which is why she and all the fey left.

[feral fractal]

I'm not sure, I just kind of assumed we were killed and brought back to life for this purpose.

[random prism]

We were killed cus supposedly we broke free from whatever mind control the Ode had on us.

And then the omen moose decided to revive us probably so we'd be able to fight back against the Ode.

Given that they need all the help they can get in that regard.

[white ginkgo]

How do you pronounce the "Dale" in Dale Seer?

[oblique pawn]

Specifically all we know is that we are considered a traitor, which heavily implies we acted against them. The only way we could act against them is if we broke the Spellsong (or whstever they used to control us) somehow

[random prism]

Yeh.

[oblique pawn]

But aside from that, we know almost nothing of what we did in the time under the Ode

[random prism]

I will say that, despite their being other envoys as a confirmed thing, there probably isn't a lot of them.

Given that the Ode recognize us on sight as 'the traitor'.

[gaunt flame]

were we not a soldier of sorts for them? (I don't know how much I can say without going spoilers)

[random prism]

So it's not just 'an envoy' or 'some guy', we're immediately recognized as the envoy who turned on them.

Which means they have few enough for that to be an easy distinction.

[oblique pawn]

The Tempest are some legion or force in the Ode, and we were a Tempest

What exactly the duties of a Tempest are, or what restrictions there may be on becoming one, are unclear

[random prism]

The tempest to me seem to be the expendable attack dog squad of sorts, at least that's what I felt.

[gaunt flame]

yeah I wasn't sure if it was too spoiler heavy or not to say

[random prism]

Considering both Envoys and stuff like Nimrod have that rank.

[oblique pawn]

It's possible the Tempests are the natives of planets with abilities the Ode found useful

[random prism]

And Nimrod doesn't seem to be treated all that well.

[oblique pawn]

Though, being non-Ode, of course they would be treated like dirt

[gaunt flame]

could it not just be we're the only envoy to turn on them? and envoys have the powers to purge their works so naturally they fear it enough to be a big thing

[oblique pawn]

Ode society seems very hierarchical

[oblique pawn]

We only know of 3 living envoys, two of which did work for the Ode

It seems likely there were only a few.

[random prism]

If there was a bunch of them though, you'd have the probability of this envoy just being one they missed, or at least one out of the crowd being less memorable.

But nah, they see us and know for sure that we were previously in their ranks and are a turncoat.

[oblique pawn]

Grandfa's living status is also unclear

So of the 2 Envoys who we for certain know are alive, both were or sre Tempests

[random prism]

Envoys seem to be an entity of which there are only a handful of, yeah.

At least thus far suggested.

[oblique pawn]

It also seems to be related to a bloodline

Since we are said to be a descendant of whoever our starting pact is

[random prism]

I'm still concerned about the potential for Bayor being old as all hell though, considering the Paragon, a weapon sung into existence by Alora herself, a being who disappeared like a thousand years ago, was previously his, and he's still around.

[oblique pawn]

Which raises huge questions about Father

[random prism]

When it comes to fey, old usually means very strong.

Especially that old.

[oblique pawn]

Bayor potentially could be Father.

But that leaves huge implications about Grandfa

[oblique pawn]

Tbh, it feels like Bayor probably wouldn't be that old.

Grandfa was visibly an old man

So either he was, like, the immediate child of an original Envoy, or Bayor is younger

[pearl beacon]

Just like the word dale I think, literally a valley seer

'coolpools of mist' could be naturally occuring

[random prism]

If he isn't old than the Paragon landing in our hands makes a lot less sense. It'd make sense if it was just a sword lost to time once wielded by him, if it was made super recently, such as after they caught Alora, then how the hell do we have it?

[pearl beacon]

it does raise into question what dales exist in Zenith's arid desert, though....

[random prism]

Paragon having belonged to Bayor just, to me, suggests that he's super old.

And we never see him without a mask so for all we know he looks like palpatine under there, lol.

Or has just been keeping himself alive somehow, fey shenanigans.

I'd say it's at least a possibility.

[oblique pawn]

It would be REALLY funny if Grandfa was actually Sirin in disguise

And Bayor is his son/your dad

[random prism]

Appropriately dramatic I suppose.

[pearl beacon]

This would actually really tie into norse mythology... loki and fenrir moment, nightling being the wolf in this case

not the exact same dynamic but a similar enough vibe to feel inspired

[oblique pawn]

Envoys do seem to be nigh immortal

[gaunt flame]

may I ask what is our connection with music and our flute of sorts? Is it just a connection with the past or something more directly related to envoys and the world?

[oblique pawn]

Though it's unclear how that is actually done lorewise

[oblique pawn]

We just like music

[random prism]

Fey shenanigans and Alcan magic apparently being strongly related to sound.

[vernal thunder]

fun game

[random prism]

Much like electricity is to Voltaics, sound is to Alcan magic.

Or something like that.

The spellsong being a product of the Ode figuring this out and co-opting it somehow.

[oblique pawn]

Music and magick seem to be tied closely regardless

The Ode do seem to respect music to some degree

[gaunt flame]

so I assume it's related to the world in some ways, or the lifeblood of its people

[winter steeple]

he's almost certainly dead, right? he was old when the envoy was a child, and we're adults now

[oblique pawn]

It's possibly an easy way for beings to cast spells?

[oblique pawn]

We're...not sure he can die unless he wants to?

[random prism]

That's assuming a human lifespan without anything explicitly suggesting such.

[oblique pawn]

The lifespan of an envoy is very much unclear

[winter steeple]

is this not him?

[random prism]

The organs are apparently fairly recent, given that they're a project in-progress from someone who is very much still around, so it may just be more of the Ode recognizing something useful and incorporating it.

[oblique pawn]

Perhaps? Hard to say.

[random prism]

Especially since the sound of a bell seems to repel things fueled by ichor, like the Mendicant and ichor beasts.

So it seems odd for the Ode to play with sound of their own accord without some convenient influence.

[oblique pawn]

Magick in this setting is very complicated while being very simple.

[winter steeple]

Ode'n magicks seem to be based on music, like the organs, conductors, the spell song, etc

[oblique pawn]

Since, y'know. Celestial bodies are gods that just produce raw magick of a given type apparently.

[random prism]

As I said, the spellsong was from a co-opting of Alcan magic, according to word of god.

As in someone on the dev team said so.

Voltaics is electricity in the same way that Alcan magick is sound.

[oblique pawn]

That seems true between both Alca and Ode lore.

Celestial bodies are the source.

It seems like what differs is how they are given structure.

The Ode seem to build machines that use their native magicks as fuel