#envoy-gathering
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I don’t think buffing movespeed is a good idea, mounts or no mounts.
I just feel nervous considering it.
I think attack speed would be easier to balance.
It does somewhere, Legendary, 6-8 tempers possible.
Well would be better then current grace
Cause it would remove seconds from farming by speeding up inbetween walk times
Not minutes by deleting bosses
SWIMMING??
True.
8?! How many tempers are there? I feell like I've seen the same 6
9 total.
Also lowkey
Im biased
Anytime i see arguments agaisnt movement i just see it as anti fun
Very slow tho
These and the last is the one that increases damage and stagger on heavies.
I suppose I'm biased in the other direction. I know movement utility can have massive unintended effects on the rhythm and flow of combat, such that it can break free from the pace the whole system is balanced around, so it just makes me very nervous when it's considered. It can have so many non-numerical effects that add up.
And I just generally dislike utility metas existing. Same reason I feel like Orengall's 1 is lame.
If movement stuff is able to be customized then everyone will do it, and that will be bad for creativity of builds.
bro aint no way i just killed 6 cogah bosses and not a single gave me a rune
this game does not want me to get treefell
or the hollowing
8 tempers is wild
Well i main character in other games like magik, doomfist, i play both tf2s, i main light in finals
Im all for movement
In an asymmetrical system like those it works fine, yeah. Those are all balanced around individual heros with great differences.
I worry about people becoming mean to each other if someone chooses not to use the movement meta.
But SF is one of many games balanced around many constants.
One of these is the speed at which you can move.
And this is a pve game
Let people have strong metas that dont hurt the game
And combat is very lunge-centric, learning spacing is vital, and trivialized by more speed.
I disagree. Adding a utility meta like this is likely to hurt the game by stifling creativity and forcing people to do the same optimized thing. Humans WILL optimize the fun out of things if they’re not prevented from it.
This will inevitably happen in a game such as this that'll have a lot of grind.
That's another very valid concern. Movement speed adds up over the course of the dungeon, and lowering clear time is sinful.
WF already has this problem in spades.
I swear ima odd ball who doesnt
The problem is that it often just doesn't feel good when something exists that is objectively better than what you want to do, so you drift towards it.
Being labeled as objectively inferior cus you play not a certain way isn't good design.
Movement speed increases would be better as a separate thing entirely, like mounts when we get them. Something not part of your points build.
Exactly!
That’s not even an argument.
You right its a counter arguement
If you’re just going to talk nonsense then I’ll head to bed
Anyway, yeah, I think crit damage is fine, should it be balanced more than it is. It's just a bit much right now.
Also curious of this
Might be a tad goofy
Cogah and level of an enemy seems to not affect it.
It may not fit very well into the system as is, which has very few attack speed boosts so such is very controlled.
Which makes sense, as this game is built around its combat pace.
So touching that rhythm can have very sudden and extreme results.
I feel like the animations just wouldnt work for attack speed as they have a sort of weight to them
I start that when arguments turn into pointless back and forths
The animations are a good point. I like that it’s crit damage right now. Just needs some fine tuning.
So you gave up your argument? I see. Good talk.
It needs to be reigned the hell in but yeah, just, a solid amount of fine tuning.
A stern talking to.
Its just a pointless loop rather then productive conversation
This big... thing just dropped on top of an enemy
Lmao.
Yeah the ode yeet people in containers at you now from their sky palaces or whatever.
Odst droppod
Drop pods! They have enemies in them sometimes
Half the time they don't even have enemies in them.
So, as expected of any new mechanic, it's... a tad buggy.
It instead killed an enemy though XD
It’s really funny when it’s empty though. All that production and… nothing
Nice, so they just went -1 lmao.
Sorry if this has been asked a bunch already but what does the red upgrade flag mean here? I've searched everywhere in my menus and haven't found anything to click
So its basically Helldivers?
Magic helldivers, yeh.
Put people in metal coffin, throw off side of sky palace.
Profit, sometimes.
When it works.
Democracy!
But do sirin pickpocket work on orst tho
that should be the number of slots you have left available
That's a pretty inefficient design. The force of the fall would outright break every bone of the Oden body
...I don't know? I'd assume not cus it's picked up from the ground?
Can’t imagine they’re profiting much off them in terms of material and how often people fall out, going by the empty ones
as in, the number of slots you have right now that are unused
But Gawth also has it in the mushroom drop table, so maybe?
A very good question.
I understand the 29 number i was asking about the red flag👁️
You see everything the Ode do is literally powered by magic, and their branch of magic is rooted in electricity.
oh yeah, i just assumed the red flag was a placeholder icon for the number or something
Something something magnetic suspension for all we know, it's pretty easy to handwave.
Also the swimming animation is janky XD Instead of swimming through water, im swimming through air XD
if it's something else, i'm not really sure
You see this is just Naruto and you have discoverd water walking.
Or water... floating, idfk.
You're a wizard, Naruto.
Probably an actual fanfiction like that somewhere, eugh, nvm.
I speak of dark things that may be watching and waiting and best not be named or invoked.
2 so far
Where does Camel-talist spawn on the main map?
So where did the mace totems come from if I already have a random amount
lol. Two Orst drops from a single cast of Forest Horses
2
The skill tree is shared with GS and has been renamed Heavy.
Totems and runes are likewise shared.
omg so we finally have some more points toward paragon combat art atlast
sorry, forgot the 'tab'
is that all the tempers and the maxd number you ccan roll?
The highest I've gotten is also an Officer 4 thus far, a long ways away from a Legendary 8.
na not all
Highest Craftwork is Legendary and that can roll with 6-8 tempers.
you can add more of those? That just dropped
Out of the 9 that currently exist.
No, they'll just drop.
They're just, very, very, very, very rare.
so miltary isnt the only thing
this seems off to me since rarity already exists
The fact that the tiers have ranges irks me. The fact that they have overlap irks me more.
this seems like a new form or rarity
what if i want legendary paragon do i have to buy founders more
The fact that you can roll a tier that low rolls into being worse than a roll of the tier below it?
lol
Jank, I hate it, a lot.
Significant weapons will still be fragment crafted, stuff like Paragon and Gathannan.
This new system is going to be a catch-up mechanic for lower tiers to become competitive with these higher ones.
Which means it's a whole damn lot of RNG crammed into a... catch-up mechanic, to make low tiers more viable.
Seems excessive.
Unless fragment-crafted weapons are also added into it somehow in their own way.
I've seen several say that Tuvalkane will be involved in mechanics to edit existing weapons in this system.
So perhaps fragment-crafted weapons will just have to follow that path from start to finish.
We'll just have to wait and see what these new facets to the system will look like. This is just a preview.
temper drops and a tempering crafting state
maybe add tempers to joinery
hope we get pact bestitch eventually
I want Dragon Pact 😄
They have hinted in the past at pact transmog existing and having effects beyond merely visual.
Which sounds neat, but we have absolutely no details about that.
So basically like the helminth?
Perhaps.
i only wnat visual so whem im leveling something i can see what i want to see not something else

clothing joinery when
ah i see thats why pensive is giving the most so far. its got 4 stars toward each stat
yea ok nothing has 5 stars toward a stat the maximium currently is 4 stars and the rest all have less stars on 2 other stats. so pensive just out does the calculator cos it has 4 on all stats on all clothing items
with half of the stars being focused to spirit
Honestly the first virtue system is more accurate.
The fact there are buttons to accurately increase and decrease the amount of stats you can give to any of the three virtues is much more easier
i think the cost on use confirm is a problem.
i like the way this new one functions compared to both. tho it is a little finky on placement and outside virture sources are removedw hen moving it around which means the numbers arent true tillyou let go
its nicer then the point in 1 virture at a time
and its much better then template system
but the consumable is definitely a poor choice
i assumed i had so many because it was just my prism converted or something but im not seeing where to get more
I would love a dragon pact
I am a fellow dragon lover. 😄 Dragons are cool and amazing hence I main Chroma in Warframe :3
clothing joinery will help when it returns eventually
but hopefully tempers are planned to enter joinery for non crafted drop weapons
or the system will eventually make non tempered weapons out dated
you have so many because of the old prisms yes, new players cannot get them the same way we got them, they have to do the RNG of agari farming. Or siege farming, but that's on a 3 hours cooldown.
yea factions should 100% still sell rebalance prisms then like they did the old prisms
they should add level number
Do you need weapon slots in order to get the prompt to pick up the weapon maces that dropped from enemies?

decided i should sell my dups with 1 temper since i wanted to only rally get as many tempers as possible and now
force close it is
which tree are people getting still the pillager questlines from?
there is a new quest?
One near Kearnhold Organ
yo is anyone else having a lot of trouble getting runes from bosses all of a sudden
ah i see
sell bugging. it please waits till i force close. but it does sell the item
just never frees me from please sell
thats going to be cancer as i farm out maces for a legendary max tempers
Just wanna ask. By storage capacity, does it only mean Weapons and pacts? Not the ingredients/items you got from overworld?
pacts and weapons i think since they all show up in the same sell tab
Ah thank goodness
Made a rule to only sell Tier 1 weapons. That way i am only left with the best stuff
why are the ode cutting fish with a lobotomy pick?
i feel like perfect roll orst would be 8 temper no venger
sine there is 9 tempers lol
also armor, armor takes up inventory space now
Liar liar pants on el fuego
hello where to get blactsmith?
patchnotes mentions it, tee-hee
Allo chat,have anyone figured out where to farm higher RNG mace with more perks on it?
It was not mentioned in the wiki
Straight from the patchnotes https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/11458-soulframe-preludes-145-oden-tempers/ :
Pacts
Weapons
Armour excluding Talismans```
Wiki also might not be up to date
regarding this change
Then its a bad change since we cant sell armor T-T
4th one
rng
ah,so its pure RNG,gotcha. Thanks
Confirmed that there spawns a lot of mace weiling guys on Fort Mirifuir
maybe they spawn more frequesntly in Seiges
but the mace rolls are pure rng themselves, being in cogah fighting agari drops the same rng mace as another rng mace drop.
it may be pure rng itself but having a lot of those mace weilding guys is helpful
They alsow spawn a lot in the graveyard/crypt as Mini bosses
i hate this front waist cape bro
Just watched one of the blue balloons just start ascending
Ode putting helium in it
Steve, please add "Bro-Op" elements from the DE Star Trek game to Soulframe. Do it Steve
what cape?
tha one that comes with the pants on the wylde tethren
that one
Also big ups just got like 6 orst from one run
like the look without the front cape one
And theyre all cheeks
15 orst total, 5 officer rest military
Real
The distribution on the rarities has to be insanely skewed towards military and officer
I've gotten 11, never stock, but never higher than officer
Brrrruuuuuuuuuuh. the cutscene played just when I was falling on top of the Kearnhold Seieg fort tower and I died
Yes, if it hasn't been answered.
I just tabbed in and saw the question.
I met the big puppy mama too! Hug that pupper!
oh 🙁
So can we swim to the world tree on the little island?
Random event stuff, you can find the omen beasts out and about and get long temp buffs from them.
Yes, this is the first time we can access it legit lol.
i see
Didnt know forged weapons could get traits... Now I am obligated to get the perfect ones
i don't think that's intentional
oh my
they dont I think its an UI bug
could be yeah
if I hover over my mace it shows the traits but they dont actually exist
Also caught it doing it, same balloon every time
HUG THE BEAR
How well does it stack with the damage nearby enemy totem if you know
the dmg dealt to nearby enemies counts as the attack so the voltaic pulse is also applied
how good is the baskers wrest?
Trying Tempest again after the buff and Seismor is more consistent than I remembered, it only occasionally decides to do doodoo damage. Its damage isn't great though, especially compared to main damage skills on other pacts, so it's definitely more useful for situational CC I guess.
Now that your stagger stuff actually works when fighting a boss, might be a solid pact now.
Seismor being kind of whimpy notwithstanding.
One meh skill doesn't break the pact now that the other stuff is functional.
ive seen people say they can get the pressure plates leading to undercity to work alone with sirin...i guess with her 2? but its not working for me, am i missing something?
claws when T_T
Closest we got is the Orengall pact kick TwT
i think it might have been patched out a while ago
I do think they should just make that dungeon a normal dungeon.
Yeah, it's really sad
The two player super dungeon is a very old iteration of an idea that I don't think caught on.
All it does is make it annoying to open when you want to do it for some reason and obnoxiously long.
For no extra reward.
Also, I heard some people call those ode drop pods "belldivers"
im farming it for maces and im stuck either using orengall or swapping after opening..
apparently it was, ty
Really hope they make it an actual name
this needs to be cannon!
who is the new journal foe?
The selling of items is bugged? Game is infinitely loading when trying it
or they only give prelude keys every other major patch?
Literally check pinned messages
yes sometimes, i quit in the menu solution
Yep, a random softlock, all you can do is relaunch.
Yeah, did that. Will surely be fixed soonish. Thanks!
yup
One can hope.
It was around well before this system was added.
Which is somewhat frustrating.
Why are the Orsts dropping with random levels. I just got one that is shown to be at lvl 13 already. Or is that a visual bug?
Though I admit it is fanned by my similar frustration that Orengall still crashes people in MP several preludes later.
I mean, the matchmaking/invitation system is breaking constantly since the beginning of time.
New drops of Orst will match your highest level Orst.
Such that you only have to level the weapon once.
what a peculiar rope
They dont though, always a bit lower. but yeah, makes sense
It's not constantly tracked.
I've been told it snapshots every time you ender a loading zone.
Like a dungeon entrance or exist, or logging in.
So the intent is to match, but it may lag a little behind.
Since it is not tracked constantly.
But get it to 30 and have it there for a bit and every future one will be dropping at 30.
So it gets there in the end.
having zero on drop fragments for Lyke-Wake I killed endicant Knight (Cleaver), Mendicant Knight (Rovgot Ruins), and Mendicant Thrallfor 2 weeks and got nothing. or is our type of mod or location that has a better drop chance? Dm if anyone for anyone got any inf.
Stuck in the bear effect. The patch has once again insane amounts of glitches.
Gotta farm rovgot ruins a lot
Only place it drops I think
Second hard reset in 10 minutes now
It ONLY drops in the rovgot dungeon, not from the enemies you mentioned.
so, Nimrod used to be walking around near the southern Tower. But now the forested ruins he spawned near don't even seem to exist anymore. Where's Rodney at?
Lean vision
i cant access menu or move though, the only button that works is melee.
awww ok so the wiki if i got was wrong thanks Apexsoul just got find rovgot dungeon lolz.
The new one in New Viscii bottom right corrupted area. It has been dropping in there forever and neve ranywhere else, dunno why a wiki would say otherwise. It's also clearly stated in the patchnotes that it drops in there
Oh thank god. I was dreading having to eventually level it up again for when I get a legendary one
thank you
Bug with Maestro Camo boss fight. Won't let me brandish my sword. Can only walk around
I swear every patch the game breaks down to a glitchfiesta
So many bugs this patch
I think ive seen all of 3 so far. Inability to use rune abilities, really really messed up water texture in nightfold, and Orlick quest not showing the objectives as complete (but still being complete)
My inability to swear causes the severity of the glitched water texture in nightfold to be improperly conveyed. Its abhorrent
so only to get bear gear is boss bear random spawn correct? my wife wanted meto ask lolz
Or purchase it from camel in nightfold, yes
The lighting in the tent is also all wrong.
it does also drop from the collector
The fire no longer gives off light, harsh light is now just omnipresent in the air.
It's very lame.
I havent even noticed the tent lighting cause I play on low settings, its the water texture thats new
cool didn't know that Lyche thanks
Unrelated, im torn between using preludes server tag and soul server tag
asking for keys isn't allowed here, sorry
but there's info on the different ways to get an invite in this pinned message:
#envoy-gathering message
there'll also be another stream on the 26th where you can get a guaranteed invite through the twitch drop if you can make it
I can't sell any armor or the game locks. I keep having nodes not spawn (creatures to slay, chests to find, music to play for fables) or the 'find Ode'n relics before Ode', just does not load the thing i have to find.
There are... there are a lot of bugs
But again folks: Is Nimrod not out and about as an Agari anymore? I can't find him
discharged nimrod should be at the same place he always is, if that's what you mean
Honestly I think im ignoring a lot of bugs subconsciously cause the game is in pre-alpha. Im certain there are a lot im just not registering
I'm scouring the area round the southern Tower where he usually spawned, he's jsut not here. Where do you find him now?
Like just earlier I got knocked down and fell through the floor and under the map
Thats how I found out we could swim now
If I’m offering to give away an invite code, is it okay to post here if I direct them to inbox?
you can post codes here if you want, it's just asking for them that isn't allowed
If i have access to the game will I still get a chance at the weekly invite codes?
Perfect! I’ve actually already given a few away here in this server by saying so
No
No, you're not in the raffle when you're already in.
I assume not
not from the weekly invites, but you can still get extra codeds from the twitch drops
You can still watch streams for more keys tho.
Whoever’s message was deleted, can you message me.
Yeah what Lychee said.
Am I still able to give that code away
yep
Cool
extra codes you can't use yourself, so giving them away is really the only thing you can do with them
I bought founders and got 10, in drip feeding them off haha
I gotta give my bff a code
if i'm remembering correctly, i'm pretty sure he should be at the red dot here:
what does the undeciphered text say?
I mean, its the only new foe with this patch, I thought people knew
Sinecure officer
that reads "sinecure officer"
yeah, i've run into a couple of generic miniboss enemies with that name
he exists already
Question if i dont have the starling. the second best bow is Avex or Juniper? What im understanding ,more grace -more headshot dmg ,so triple grace on the bow for more dmg?
gn all go take a soulrest layers lol
lol imagine going on many conquests across the stars only to be killed by an ecoterrorist hillbilly on a "backwater" planet
right, so it looks like it's just a bugged entry or another variant, i guess
sorry, i don't know more than that
booo my game crashed during cogah
all good ^^ thanks anyways
The game is crashing a lot currently. had 2 crashes myself in the last 30 minutes
bruhh
Seems like it
Then why can I headshot again?????
hi
You can headshot still because they give us the option to turn auto lock off when blocking probably to allow us to target a specific enemy in a crowd that may give the most issues
No like magick had its headshot multi removed originally
It didnt get more damage from them at all
Now it does again
Okay so if nobody else has I found a bug that I probably should report, eugh.
Making seathorn now the best staff again by proxy
Silistaff the one you got from Mirifuir was the best prior 14.5 I assume then?
Yeah
Overall best stats but grace scaling staffs are like
Non existent, so seathorn is now the best
Seathorn with Sirin is very good
Does anyone else have experience with the fact that, should you use the grappling hook passive from Ode Tempest, your next attack, should it be with a flyblades and also hit a target, teleporting you to said target?
Or rather, aggressively accelerating towards them, given that I have missed once and slid past them.
And then... shot quite far.
I had that happen last year, but I haven't seen it happen in a while when using flyblade with Ode Tempest
Ah, so it's probably a known thing.
Just got on and switched to spirit and got 704 damage on a headshot using the charged attack
NIce
The wiki lists legendary at 6-8, but I've seen claims it can roll lower.
Either way, the max would be 8.
Guys Does this group chat include Warframe players??
yes
Nice
Well it's such a surprising thing that de being a Music company released 2 bangers and both of them are free
lmao
Ah ty for letting me know, yes this should be saying 5-8! Updating it now 
either the sprout folk are gonna go broke or the price this sells for declines due to higher stock
wHY AM I ONLY GETTING MILITAIRY ORST 😭
I'm sure it's been asked a million times already, but is there a best way to farm for the orst?
no
Sinecure-Errant Gawth, ruins near Galvinar wastes
i think his is a guaranteed drop
long answer yesn't
yes, reset the castle in the south over and over
there are wasy to farm it but as the drops are influenced by so little things that might as well call it random
Welp, time to look for castles XDD (I am very lacking in the names and history motes department)
Thank you so much XDDD
I can't tell if I'm just the stupidest envoy to exist or the blindest one lol
no worries
And how do I reset it, just go to main menu over and over?
logout > log back in
since he's an agari boss he respawns every 30 mins TwT
you reset the castle, not the agari
these goobers also have a chance to drop it
recommended route
they will literally drop the mace, and u gotta pick it up
ahh ok
heyo
so the OST has three Courage pips, one on the base and two in Attunement. If I use a thrice-blessed joinery, does it only get 2 more and the other is lost, or is the five only counting the 'attunement' spots?
no its reattunment is currently bugged and wont result in any statgain
Military one right off the bat, we getting somewhere
military is the lowest :3
I just sold 13 of them. They drop like candy.
So you mean I can't attune my bonkstikk rn?
can a math wizz tell me if espadarte caps at twice or thrice blesseD?
Seems like Champion of Alca is now The Paragon
Nah stock is lowest
That feels good having balanced stats
But military is lowest drop
Really? I got one with only 1 temper
And this one has 2
Wait no nvm I am dumb XDD
tempers aren't fully set for each craftwork level
so like, military can have 1-2 of em, instead of always 2
Theres chance for it to have less than 3 perks
yeah military has a chance for 1-3
officer 2-4
noble 3-5
sovereign 4-6
and legendary 6-8
and moonsteel is just a shiny variant
changes the leaves to silver moonsteel leaf
Hoping tuvalkane will have dismantle option in future to receive fragment to craft own
any yall played the first descendent?
althought, i noticed each TFD weapons always has 4 perks, but soulframe's Orst can have 1 to 8.
depending on weapon rarity
But man, at last we have XP showing on the HUD for gear
That could've been made available far earlier IMO
this kinda reminded me of a game called godfall and how u can upgrade a weapons rarity to give it more perks
heard someone say it should also have XP level number next to it
wouldn't be a bad addition
I pray that today a purity fragment will drop instead suit of rancor piece
Also i noticed new weapon type on glades sinecure, dual pickaxes
Now to get Orst-III and Wazzard's Wish...
red cloaked dudes?
yea they'l also in the overworld
Isn't Sincecure-Errant Gawth at NW?
No no, they are blue cloaked
near Galvinar wastes
Red cloaked ones have axes
okay, what does "lock tempers 1/3" mean?
in the first descendant, every weapon comes with 4 total perks
you can readjust these perks to re-roll them, and can lock up to 3 perks to keep them from being re-rolled
like in the pic, if u wanted to keep Rejoinder, u would lock it and readjust the other 3
u can't readjust/re-roll perks in godfall tho, only give a weapon more perks (up to 4 total)
Being able to take out and put in temper things would be nice. But its basically a WF mod system at that point lol
i wonder how they will handle legendary tier weapons. Like... Igne mora i guess?
since apparently those wont be dropped like this
Definetly not
Or at least they said it wont use the same system and still be frags
So I guess legendary will be worse(?)
Nope
the first descendant also has weapon crafting for ultimate weapons, basically just like normal warframe weapons
basically, normal weapons are dropped, while ultimate weapons are crafted.
youd have to have some preset bonuses on them that make up for being preset
I also pray rng jesus for chance to get cogah runes
well, TFD's ultimate weapons are kinda like Destiny's exotics, where they have set exotic perks, but also randomized normal perks.
Oh you're not showing actual game mechanics, you're showing how mechanics of godfall might apply?
Huh, I got Orst-III right away
And I just noticed I got a bunch of Arcs
Like about 300
yeah arcs were all refunded with the update
I think I'll buy Wazzard's Wish then
yep
I also made this post if you want a bit more clarity
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1504216789582745732
not worth it, dont do it
not sure if i should splurge on mora's hand
really dont wanna farm for it, even tho im only on Kith level 4 TwT
I got 300 Arcs for free
Arcs are a paid commodity and you can get wazzards wish super easy for free. @hazy raptor
theyre not "free" but yeah
What's 50 Arcs gonna do when I have almost 4K?
I have like 50+ wazzards wish frags the thing is common
You are of course free to use your money how you like. Im greedy with my founders arcs
Only buying storage cap
I wont cross the line of buying items since theyre generally easy to get
WW isnt even BIS
For any build really
Reminds me that they are also adding more talismans
if i paid id at least want a BIS item
kinda wished talismans were like amulets in Remnant
Like they provides buffs instead of only just increased virtues.
i hope we get totems on amulets and armour. Im pretty sure we will since now dropped totems say "Weapon Totem" which is redundant if there are only weapon totems but not if there are multiple types. Pact totems!
More attack speed totems. I want to swing my gs like a rapier
you used to be able to put 2 Attack speed totems. I wish we could stack duplicate totems
It would be warframe all over again
I really only like the attack speed totem and the damage to nearby enemies totem. In concept of being interesting. it made the runes AoE.
I prefer it to "more stagger" "more damage" "More armour"
those dont meaningfully change a playstyle. Neither does AS or making a weapon AOE but they do have an effect
having like smaller radius on fly blades totem would be a more useful totem etc
flyblade duration, radius, speed.
I dont enjoy the current direction with totems. I was hopeful but theyve been kinda eh
what about something for arrow splintering on bows?
Since there combat arts manual planned, we will see
yeah you can play around more with the ideas
kinda wish they could build into diggin in arrows and detonating em
but yeah totems are boring imho
Except Wazzard's armor set
what you mean? Thats not difficult to get
organs are like 2-3 minutes each
Its not that bad
i guess the run is painful
Might be just me
Wazzard used to be ungodly levels of painful, its not so bad now
Not when there's a 3h cooldown and almost nobody doing Organs in game
i usually bus my friend around every "boss" and we do it in under an hour
Why would you need others for organ?
To share?
Care share your kidney? 
Organ sharing is a mixed bag either way, the fact the organs each drop a specific armor piece makes it very achievable
Yeah right
Spent a whole week and got one fragment. If only others farmed Organs too...!
Hi, I'm newbie btw, how can I play the game?
Dont people just do an all boss run every now and then? you get everything super fast. I just do it when leveling weapons
oh, i got them in 2-3 days lol
the only things I would buy would be the sets u get from the different factions (now those are a frickin slog)
you can buy those for faction rep cant you? Thats cheap as water
Lk f key
By either getting code watchin stream or if somebody donates a code. But Do NOT BEG codes in here
that would require me to do so many of those darn sparrow tales ;-;
all the faction token drops means you have infinite faction grind all the time. I just buy shimmerings since i have nothing to spend it on
I've straight up repressed my faction grind, max level on each with all of them capped for standing
you dont need to do quests at all?
I cash in like 150 of those tokens together every other day
Faction medallions do make it a lot easier
The next stream will be after 22 days only company has give i had watch 25 min last 5 min they closed it🥲
how much do u play what the hell ;-;
if youre actively playing you just get TONS AND TONS of faction tokens
they are a common drop? Almost every group drops them
Ok, thanks, i won't
U guys ever read this post?
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1504206296855875794
kinda makes me think: what if we could consume the Grounded circle for cools buffs or unique spells?
More like even worse. The fragments were already rare as it is
yeah but like I do like 2 or three activities and then I no longer have time
I get like 8 of each tops
i think magick was made by people who hate players playing games
Also if you signed up at soulframe homepage you can also have a chance to receive invitation code in email
yeah ive yet to do activities at all
bro just wanders midrath lookin for ode to slay
Did you do it when they first came out, it is so much easier now its very in line with the rest of the rng. And each organ dropping a specific part has always been a feature
i maxed all faction quests back in... P8? Back when each quest gave you like 100 or something that insanely low
Think P8 P9 before they introduced faction tales and tiered tales later
ur absolutely crazy lmao
I started doing Organs when Avex was introduced
i remember farming the max level tale by going in and out of the double dungeon
to reset it and trigger the higher tier faction tale spawn
since it was RNG spawn based on location
I wish the spell weapons should work like hunting horn from monster hunter. Weave combo with attack then cast spell
So yeah when they significantly boosted the chances to get it, there were people not getting a fragment in over 100 runs before avex
magick combat is genuinely just bad game design
Man the new update is so buggy. im literally walking on the sky right now.
what about like dante's abilities?
Sorta like that also
Magick gameplay intent seems to be:
Stand, dont move. Let go of WASD.
Click mouse 1.
im sad about that tho, cause like its my fav fantasy
I love playing spellslingers :3
Hunting horn styyle feels more fitting
i wish you could jump and as you flung spells it kept you airborn and you had to combo stuff to keep airborn and retain the buff instead of...
Hey man, stand and dont move. Also dont use smite because it cancels the damage buff
Seems like it wasn't so significantly increased if I couldn't even get enough fragments for one craft after focus farming one Organ ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'll die on this hill, the farm sucks
Also if you build up the spell cast speed with 4 consecutive attacks, you could dodge longer distance wizard style
this, but also I just wish there were different magick weapons. Like would be cool to see multiple different playstyles for magic thingies
Consuming the buff
gimme a cool beam, gimme a close range big explosion etc..
what if each staff had its own "lore of magick"/ tree of spells thing that u can cast by doing combos?
Cuz i signed up my account at November, the only email i got is the confirmation my email.
Gotta keep checking since they send waves of invites codes, check spam folder just incase
magick feels like an afterthought they added because "eh fantasy games have mage wizard and rogue"
Once i get home i can send you one
"Mage is also ranged like archer but archer aims and moves. So make wizard not move and not aim"
idk about that tbh. With everything from fey and magical avacodo's I do believe there should be some weaponized magic
like it fits really well into the world
I mean the design of it feels like a total afterthought
just not in the current gameplay
you cant say the design of stand and dont aim is thought out
yeah no fair and true and based
you arent even encouraged to aim, this is obvious because they removed magick headshotting
I also just wish we had more thoughtfull spells for the sidearm casters. Like it would be neat if we could put runes on the floor skyrim style and then switch back to our primary weapon while the enemies walk and explode all over the runes
Sinecure , Dendrit, feykin and ichor spell lores
2 attack spells, 1-2 buffs and 1-2 debuffs
?
I think its more fair to think of Arcanics as our version of spells, and magick weapons more of as energy weapons
I bet the #1 reason they dont add an autoattack to casters if you hold mouse 1 is because you can replace player involvement with a heavy weight on the mouse button.
Thank bro
what ?
like weapons with unlimited ammo or..?
ichor is goop manipulation
be a goop bender like Deora when she was possessed
Yeah, we have the erst root
weird question: i attacked a line of ode up north, and when the 1st died, he dropped a letter (not quest item, a letter popped up) but then the rest attacked me cancelling the reading of this... and after i cleared them all, i couldnt find it on the ground to read it again... what content did i miss here?
its just a map marker
just weapons that fire energy. all the weapons in soulframe have unlimited ammo
I'll give you specific proof of that not being the case in a couple minutes, you might have bad rng but its not due to the droprate
If you look at map it shows icon of sinecure head on map
The letters are like miniboss locations
And I get that isn't much better but it is the truth
whe u said energy, i was thinking like plasma weaponry for halo
my advice is just farming everything always
thank you!
that way when you need something you have it
That erstroot amount is purely from running organs before avex, I got that many without ever finishing a single armor piece, that amount of armor fragments is how many I've gotten since from selective and limited amounts of organs to help friends out. I didn't spend weeks getting that amount, I spent a managable and grindable amount of hours. And thats on top of the fragments for the set that I have crafted that I got after avex update, meaning I've gotten even more than that.
Erstroot is, wazzard robes for sure should and I've advocated that since the organ came out
Had theorized it was because they wanted to inflate its drop pool so players would have more reason to play it, but it still hasnt changed so idek now
Organ drop table might get changed is Pre 15 or later
so i believe your theory is correct
Hopefully, its nonsensical rn in the most literal of ways
it's like Circade would be Dropping Mendicant King's Armor and weapon
uhm how do you get different craftwork with orst? I'm just clarifying things, because I have 2 orst with the same number of tempers with different craftwork
Outright rng
it's all RNG now
so craftwork and temper number is independent from each other?
No, craftwork allows more temper range, the amount is randomly selected from that range
oh I see I see, so there is like a minimum and maxinum number of tempers per craftwork, just to be more clear, am I right?
Yes thats exactly right
I see, thanks thanks
I would love deerskull
i raise you
I want this but without the gunk
Anyways i trust DE to give us cool armors cause those dendrit mage robes they showed in stream looked beautiful
hey did you know if ze gonna have a 4 stars stuff soon ?
So basically the circade armor?
Yes :)
weird palce to farm land and Harvest
Wah? Who is this handsome person?
World tree moment
P inspection :3
closest we got is the Circades armor
tho this one does look different, minus the gunk
Got any screenshots of it or time stamp that I can refer for Twitch VOD?
Has anyone gotten an Orst-III with a rank higher than Officer?
I want the armour and the sword
I would love the Sword, my current issue with all the great swords is that they look like larping weapons. This one seems good tho :)
They really do. Theyre all paddles
you can comfortably row boats with them
its one reason i really hate the cheap chinese toy sword you get as paragon
Would be faster than swimming most likely lol
you know whats faster than swimming?
Bunny hopping while swimming. Unironically
its like 2-3x faster
Wild
swimming is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
we need a pokemon like thing with SURF
surfboarding around
totally radical
surfing on a swarm of fish
Sword of the sea type beat
Swimming so slow you can file your taxes
U should probably file ur taxes

What's the controller gameplay like?
Got my steam controller in and figured I'd give it a whirl on soulframe when I'm home
Im using an EasySMX x20 and its great
Better than M&K for sf ngl
Now sure how it'd be on the steam controller, it doesnt look great but who knows
Hmm i dont have any problems with mnk tbh, plays perfectly fine imo
I feel like the Ode greatsword and the great shield would be excellent candidates for this new tempers system. they are easy to farm because you can literally just see which enemies drop them, but they seem saucy enough to be in an upper echelon of customised weapons
for melee i prefer it since i can have everything in fingers reach (right on fingers) 100% of the time
because i literally don't think anyone wants to temper system to apply to all or even most weapons
i use the buttons on the back of the controller for sparrow, heals, etc.
i dont use the arrow pad thing
Yeee i just wish in general there was a little more loot hierarchy. Like there I dont even have the Tempest set completed and i already have a full set of medicant king armor. Thats a bit odd to me lol
never have to lift a finger 🙂
All enemy help weapons seem like perfect for it
since enemies can naturally drop em
And like the penitant set being better and more unique than half the midgame sets while being easier to acquire is a bit of a yikes
there are a good amount of weapons they dont though
avakot best character in soulframe bro
you used to start with it iirc
since, ya know, the envoy used to be a tempest
I know i know but yeah thats uh no longer the case lol
In general I hope (and looking at the Temper system this will probably be the case) that they will slowly introduce a more robust loot progression system
actually, does anyone think tempers should be a universal weapon property?
Welcome to Diabloframe
also i made msitake and tried to sell one of the Orst-II and i'm in forever loading screen
for ever Please wait
oh fun
You'll have to alt f4
I think it should but with limits and stuff. I kinda see it as random roles in destiny (tho a tad different) and I think it would be nice. But there should be some limits to it
Only happened once to me so far
but thats like the worst part of destiny
it might not be so bad if theres a pity system, that lets you turn junk weapons into a resource that upgrades weapons to higher tiers, otherwise the time investment is just direspectful
hmmm I suppose
oh interesting, Espadarte is Cassid Origin..
yeee, now idk who the Cassid's are but they seem cool
yup, from seas beyond midrath's view
No one let fire king Fentanyl see Espadarte or Navalha
"IS THAT A CASSID WEAPON I SEE ON YOUR HIP?!?!"
bro doesnt like spaniards?
He does not, No
Good time of day Envoys, Founders, Paragons and Stevens.
He fought Cassid Invaders
ah well uh thats gonna be a fun talk
Just starting
now I wanna make a build using espadarte and moras hand pact just to spite the lad

"Lets burn some Cassids." said with all the love of a man who's lost everything

I got a code for watching the twitch stream, but i already have an code, can i give that code to a friend somehow ?
yeah, on the website check your account management options, it is shown in there
Legend! thanks !
I still need to play soulf lol
Maybe today I will
New content is only the mace right?
The rest were reworks no?
If you mean level progression, yeah.
Also I found new possible Mine Location but it's not open
Show
yeh I saw one aswell and was likee ohhh is that gonna be a future tileset 👀
I meant as new stuff to do
Well technically you can now farm for a legandary max tempers Mace, which will take some time. Like in a looter shooter
You can get killed by falling drop pods
Is there a way to refine trash ones?
not yet
I see
wHY AM i T-POSING in Maeshtra fight T-T i CANT EVENT fight
Might give it a shot
got my first virtue lith
Ur swimming
I am not even asserting dominance T-T im just getting slapped in the face TOT DE please fix this T-T
i just kept following river to see where they flow from
Thats her super power
and founc the closed mine entrance
would be neat to see a mineshaft tileset, something a bit closer to home
hey guy every time i launch the game and i write my password, the game crash any info about that ? thx
Hah
I am disturb
such a cutie
That happened to me when selling weapons to the camel in nightfold. Try selling them to avakots got or whatever your roaming merchant is within enclave grinding instead
I knew that Camel wasn't trustworthy!
You can sell them with a right click from inventroy whereever you are. the time i got the endless loading was when selling it from inventory in nightfold. since then have been selling 30ish in te overworld from inventory without the bug
why?
Ah nice. I'll have to check that out. Assuming I'll hit the storage limit soon. Seeing how they decided to add armor in the mix... 🙄 Even though armor is already monetized through moonsteel thread.
I'm almost certain max tempers is 6 not whatever screenshot showed 8
I found a non legendary with 6...so whats the point of legendary then?
legendary can go up to 8
Maybe the tempers
yeah, i assumed. answered the other guy
Some are better than others
more damage i think, but its not much extra
so not much point i guess
there are 9 different ones. you'd want to find an 8 legendary one with exactly the one missing that you dont want.
no need to struggle
8 tempers is real
someone got this
what a shitty UI
soulframe8词条锤子 search this on bilibili and u will see the video , cannot send link
I assume whjle Orst levels are equalized, reforge properties won't for any new mace dropping, right?
yes
welp this gonna be annoying when farming points for specific upgrade
Did they say which enemy dropped it
Men in the chat, should I trim my beard to have longer beard or make it shorter?
Depends on ur face what fits
Do you want round head or longer head?
Im going for a longer head
Consider becoming a wise elder mentor, start growing that really long beard right now.
I trimmed the edges alr
I went with pointy beard ending near my ears
I just dunno if I should take much size on it or not
It looks like a spiky ball lol by beard is spiky af
Im not ready yet sadly
To be the mentor I need white beard
And Im young af lol
You can dye it
Lmao
Well, bleach it
You know yenn fro the witcher 3
Im basically her but male and ugly
Black hair and super pale
I mean not hair bc I shave it off lol
Just beard
don't be beard racist, black beards are just as good as white beards
a black beard or even a ginger beard if I may, can be just a great mentor beard as a white beard
I think I know what you mean by longer head
You mean longer on chin and I short it out the closer I get to my bald head
Pretty much
If I wasnt ugly af I would shave this shit off ngl
Shorter sideburns, grow out jaw down
Yeahhh
Like granfa's
Someday maybe
If I get older I might go for a sage build lol
Yes IF
The world isnt looking that great
Anyway
I guess I might try the longer head
Thank you fellow males
Probably taper the sideburn to the top of your ear?
Ill go like sides and top cheeck maybe a 3-5 on my machine
Then chin maybe an 11?
Ill try to make it look okayish
I will go now >:)
I think I missed an info. What are these two lines? And since when can enemies suddenly "orbital drop" on top of me? That hurt.
Wow i got a b in cogah mirifuir just cause I skipped a few mobs
I always clear my sieges completely, but now I wonder what rank you get if you clear nothing
Not even the bosses?
Should be C
Hm, yeah some are necessary unless.. you can bypass them
Yep that's how it works, more enemies cleared and less deaths = higher rank
All sieges have at least one you have to defeat to get the item for the next zone, miri has 2 and the first one is protected by minions..
A rank is mythical
For some reason
Anyone or their friend need a preludes key? I bought founders so i got like 9 spare and dont know what to do with them
Cogah , Sinecure Officer in the Dermark dungeon
Just got a 6 temper from lvl60 regular mace dude
Maybe I'll stick to these fellas and just scale the world
100% agree. Some upgrades take 3 or 4 points. Annoying af
Oh I'm blind i got a 7 temper mace
30 gossamer for a chest piece 
Yeah this is it
bro I swear, where do these people keep pulling this gossamer from
I have like 10 💀
Pain
Wyld Wylder Whyn?
Has anyone made a list of all the available tempers yet for Orst?
Crypt of the Circade. Open the graves
but i have like 0 crypt keys
How? I had roughly 50 or 60
Just signal boosting this in case someone missed it. More envoys to agari share with
I have many keys, and am down to help you farm later if you want.
You only need one person with a key, right?
they only drop in the sparrowtale where they tell u to clear the crypt
other than that I dont believe they drop anymore
They drop from enemies with a relatively low drop rate
I checked the wiki, they should drop from agari and heavy mace ode soldiers
It's on the wiki as well
Well... You're a victim of RNG
wyld shi
Now what are these damn lines beneath my abilities? I swear they weren't there before
Best guess, top line is Pact experience and bottom line is currently equipped weapon experience. Top bar's always been full for me, bottom line was moving when I was levelling the new mace.
do fallen skytowers not have mendicant knights on purpose, or is that a bug?
Ah, makes sense. And since when can enemies deploy via an orbital drop?
Not true, I recently ran some non-tale crypts to help a friend farm gossamer, they got a bunch
Since the recent update.
Hm... I didn't see any mention of it. But I could have simply missed it.
I meant the crypt keys. Im not gettin any, but its an rngissue
They're rare drops from the tougher enemies, I believe.
Oh the keys, I haven't thought of them much haha
I literally have thousands
Here's a list of the enemies that can drop the keys
https://wiki.avakot.org/Crypt_Key
A Resource required to enter the Crypt of the Circade. Consumed upon entry.
moar crypt keys
The RNG gods are cruel
why Rovgot motes are so rare?! did at least 15 runs, found 1 only...better wait till DE decide to enhance its spawn-rate...
Loot will be reworked in the future
MOAR
jealous
Hold on let me update and log on and show off mine
better not have duped keys 
👀💦 They removed my dupes keys
Tell me more about that so I can avoid accidentally doing such a heinous thing
I don't have nearly as many as back then
im not sure if it exists anymore 
Was a bug in the past where simply playing multiplayer would dupe a specific set of items
It coincided conveniently with when I was farming the Mendicant King for joineries
"World Trees offer glimpses into Envoys beyond, a Midrath not of your own."
What's that about?
u can see other envoys at world trees
Cough
loot? what are you talking about? i mean motes, the sparkling globes that uncover the name of a place in the codex...
👀 💦 It used to be more but DE rightly took them away
Used to be millions :3
Oh... I forgot about those
they did do that a few times yeah...
So what dungeon is the new mace sinecure officer in?
The dungeon agari that carries the mace is bugged to not drop it's agari mushroom rn, so you either have to farm gawth or hit the southern fort farm route
and then 15k for the second tier amulets.
Well, it's a heck of a lot more than that to get them in the first place.
Okay but I want it for my book
if scrapping at some point includes non weapon items and gives materials, somebody will have enough keys to make whole armory from
and probably it wont be just one individual
does moonsteel also change the look of the weapon, or only the inventory icon?
No clue, but I think only the icon
That's what it seems at least
Me, sitting over here with 100 unusable keys.
Dude, bug report what you was doin' what caused it.
I hope they add visuals to moonsteel weapons. Like destiny or borderlands' shinies
so only inventory?
Since when does Destiny have shinies? They didn't last I played!
Collecting moonsteel weapons will be my new addiction, I'm already a Pokémon shiny hunter
is it possible to delete your character?
No.
well smurf that
Why would anyone want to?
however, i think that DE will adjust this RNG with Orst_III, people are going crazy about it...usually as we can see in Warframe, they do not like this heavy grinding, i think(ad hope) that mechanics like this weapon has, will change in a enhancing due collecting other and molt together, like kuva or tenet in WF
does it only change the inventory icon look?
In the stream before the update, Steve said that there's a plan for p15 to include the "breakdown and respec" stuff.
you mean "break down and re-spect"?
It's a recent thing, dropped last year. They add effects like frost buildup or galaxy patterns. The best thing destiny has done in a while, rip
Respec
destiny is such a tragedy. it's a game that genuinly had some of the greatest systems, but those essentially got wasted because Bungie fricked it up. it gets even sadder when those frick up have essentially poinsonned any conversations about the game, and not you can't even talk about something the game did wihtout people thinking everything is bad
like, i'll say it, light level is a genuinly good concept, and how it's then used to scale down players to keep old activities replayable and enjoyable is amazing
but is the normality for how DE thinks, and what we aspect from them.. they don't like too much disparity in a coop game
it even has my favorite loot system of any looter shooter, as EVERY weapon is actually usable everywhere
but then, bungie fricked up, made drops rare af, progression is a slog, content sundowning, and freaking retiring content.
so yeah, that said, if the devs are stealing that loot system for soulframe, i'll be hyped, and so far, it looks like they are doing so
"Best thing they've done in a while" is a pretty low bar to be fair
are there a rework pact trees soon I hope when they do that they also allow us to put totems with the pacts maybe even add some totems that are essentially augment mods from war frame for each individual pact also Pact trees should have a node where you can unlock your transformation for a pact
which game?
Typos happen.
destiny 2. if you can get a weapon to your light level, it was usable everywhere
my problem with destiny 2’s loot is that the loot itself is kind of boring besides exotics, but most of the exotics are basically just I get more accuracy when I hit fire or I have unlimited ammo and that’s cool but when that’s like you’re only meaningful piece of gear and you can only equip one of them at once. It just makes it super lame. I don’t even get me started on the perks of the stuff that rolls on gear like ugh
I do like the light level system and the overall aesthetic of destiny Two is perfect. It’s like fantasy medieval space it’s cool as hell.
it only looked boring if you were only looking at the perks, but never paid attention to the gun design or feel. las time i played was in 2017, so i know a lot changed since, but like.. every gun i used felt different by default, small variations that made each feel unique. so i don't mind having little changes from gun to gun. It wasn't boderlands 2 where like, every torge shotty was actually the same with different stats
hi all
smites still not giving charges off downed enemies?
'Lo.
It's hit-or-miss. Same with healing.
surprised its been allowed to be broken this long, got that nice new activation button, but uh, lots of missing charges haha
What would you want to do it for? You change your appearance at will, if that’s what you’re looking to do 🙂
||With a certain ancestor, that is||
Dead person smite never triggered the healing from that pact node until recently.
not surprising once you remember this is an alpha, and priorities with bug fix and consistancies are COMPLETLY different
Bless me with some good news.