envoy-gathering

[supple sable]

They really did not need to add the consumable as a part of it

It was something even I was anxious would happen at some point

[modern crest]

What to do with the echoes found?
Such an unexpected sound.
Only a wave and wishing well.
Is that the peeling of a bell?

Belief and faith,
both lost and found,
Ridden a kaithe,
the world is round.

Midrath is beauteous and dire.
It's healthy growth is our desire.
Dreams of lifting; along, beside.
Know Alca's to be a wild ride.

[supple sable]

And now it happened its kind of hard not to be concerned

[vagrant wigeon]

is this the best possoble roll for the mace?

[random prism]

No.

[supple sable]

Btw does the tempers system only apply to the new weapon?

[random prism]

It goes past Officer to Sovereign, Noble, and then Moonsteel, with a higher possible maximum amount of tempers for each.

[supple sable]

or are all weapons affected?

[random prism]

It just gets absurdly rare at the top.

[random prism]

Only the mace for now as a preview of the future system.

[supple sable]

Ah I see I see

[quasi saddle]

just defeated my first boss

[raw burrow]

look at this quadruple AAAA bug fix

"Fixed the Wraith of Wastes appearing beside the Envoy after teleporting to a World Tree if the Agari was defeated using a Finisher while Duo Duelo is active. Get in, Wazzard; we’re going farming."

[vague ridge]

Somehow soulframe just got annoying

If I have to refarm all the weapons for their highest rarity

[pliant lintel]

Chlo, moonsteel hasn'T been confirmed as a thing that exist yet, you are spreading misinfo rn

[storm bison]

god bless spikes on instant killing high lvl bosses. been trying to kill them with enchanced parry untill accidently killed 1 of 2 with spikes, lol

(it's dungeon where're sun mirrors)

[white otter]

I mean.... Rather have to start all over in a few years when the game actually releases?

[random prism]

Envoy hour 12, 15:45, perhaps double-check before attempting to call people out on misinfo.

It was called out on stream when someone rolled the first moonsteel rarity.

[nova spade]

Whats this Armor set?

[storm bison]

also, any tips for finding trees?

[analog plover]

Pensive set

[nova spade]

Yooo that looks pretty good

[tulip raft]

Does anyone have legendary mace?

I saw this on the wiki discord

[pliant lintel]

that has to be an edit, because now that implies freaking SEVEN tier

[fallow hemlock]

what's the best way to farm mockeries?

[onyx sparrow]

Probably recruiting chat for endless

[fallow hemlock]

they dont drop items in endless

[onyx sparrow]

Oh

[pliant lintel]

wait tho, if the chances of bette rone raise with level, now this system only encourage us to cheese cogah for hours jsut to get the "best" weapons, which, at their best, are supposed to be as good as weapons obtained from fragments

[onyx sparrow]

Glades of andurin seems to have a lot of them

[fallow hemlock]

yeah i'm trying to get stultin because it's the last weapon i dont have

[vague ridge]

glad they are only testing this rarity system for now, if they implement it for all weapons, think I might just quit

Having to refarm 52 weapons for the best rarity seems like a chore

[rugged bane]

anyone else notice this when they have DoF on?

its a flichering blue border that annoys me unlesss i have DoF off

[random prism]

Oh 52 is a weak number from how rare the higher up stuff sounds like.

To get top tier that also rolls the highest amount of tempers that it can?

Looking at at least hundreds, and that's not considering perfect temper combo rolls.

Cus they'll inevitably add more tempers that can roll.

The amount of tempers you get per rarity isn't set, it's just a potential cap.

So you can get a top tier rarity with an ass number of tempers.

[vague ridge]

52 is only the amount of weapons we have now, I have no calculated into the amount of rolls we need to even take to get top rarity with good stats

[vagrant wigeon]

pensive

[random prism]

Ah I misread that as farming each thing 52 times lmao.

Still though, either way is daunting.

[nova spade]

We cant run out of content if the content is endless 😎

[vague ridge]

If the content is just endless farming then its bad content

[merry shore]

Tried the new patch a little, so Ode soldiers are now Helldivers?

[nova spade]

I agree TBH

[vague ridge]

Grind and farm is good definitely, but needs to have a limit

[analog plover]

Standby for Ode’n Fall

[pliant lintel]

especially since, all this grind is to get a weapon to the same level as a fragment one would be

[hidden fractal]

Which is a problem. A massive problem.

[vague ridge]

If they want us to have this kind of farm, it would be much better if they have a system in place where you can extract temper option out from spare weapon and replace in your "main" weapon

[pliant lintel]

yeah, i should not have to go in cogah to inflate numbers jsut to get a small chance to get a weapon that is at least moonsteel rank without funny tempers to get on the same level than purity, which i can farm nin a few mendicant kind runs

[hidden fractal]

A grind is only good if there is a clear path that does not entirely rely on RNG gating you.

There needs to be a manual/pity system. Not just for replacing tempers, we know that's coming, but what about changing the number, or upgrading the quality. Those need to be a thing we can manually adjust as well, no matter the resource cost.

[vague ridge]

So you can kinda craft your perfect weapon from the spare you farm

[random prism]

And the more immediate concern is that they didn't fix the random soft lock chance when selling items. Just like it happens at camel, I've seen it reported that trying to sell from inventory has a chance to make your game infinitely hang while processing the sale.

[pliant lintel]

i think that's the goal with tuval, but then again, it's jsut soooo much effort jsut to get one the same level as fragment weapons

[random prism]

So farming comes with free soft locks that you need to restart to fix.

Since it all goes straight into your inventory.

[hidden fractal]

This too. It's getting REALLY annoying.

[pallid gale]

people aren't happy with the cost, I like the slider change (which I've always been against the prisms in the first place because I rather the manual spec than the preset spec)

[hidden fractal]

The "Please Wait" bug is making me want to pull out my hair.

[pliant lintel]

i think you are mixing what level of fixing each thig is. this is jsut a bug, we are talking systems in general

[hidden fractal]

Said bug affects said system.

[random prism]

Nah I'm just expressing frustration that they added a system without fixing potentially crippling bugs that'd affect it.

[hidden fractal]

And if the purpose is to TEST said system, the bug is interfering with the testing.

[random prism]

Cus getting a soft lock even a fourth of the time is aggravating.

When you're expected to farm tons of copies.

And then have to sell them all from your inventory.

[pliant lintel]

but yeah, for me this system shines at 3 tiers, with like, max 4 tmpers. that way you can farm for like, 2-3 copy for different builds and be super happy, instead fo be on a day long quest for ONE weapon that will jsut be as good as one you'd get from fragments

[pliant lintel]

mean, yes, but also no. it affect the current flow of things, but in the grand scheme of things, it's jsut a bug, not a feature of the system

[hidden fractal]

We don't even know if the fragment versions will be on par with the best drop farmed one. We're assuming, based on earlier comments, that can change.

[pliant lintel]

it's like saying a flat tire is a problem with the whole design of a car

[vague ridge]

in the end this still an alpha game so we are here to test all kind of changes they throw at us, but hope they refine it before releasing it to all other weapons

[random prism]

I was saying that it's an immediate concern and I'm frustrated it wasn't fixed before now, given that it throws a massive wrench into said system's basic functionality.

One would think such a thing would be taken care of beforehand.

[pliant lintel]

if the wepoan that are fragments aren't on par, then they would be useless. that's why i'm safely assuming. why would i buy a wepapon for arcs when it will be beaten by somethign i find on the ground?

[hidden fractal]

And that it's been there for multiple preludes, from what I understand.

[random prism]

Yes.

[hidden fractal]

Stranger things have happened. It is not safe to assume anything in an alpha, imho.

[random prism]

But like, so is Orengall crashing people in MP, which you'd think would have been solved over the 3-4 preludes it's been here.

Sometimes I question their priorities.

[pliant lintel]

yeah, but that would jsut be completly stupid to do. because, again, why would i pay real momeny to get weapons that would be worse?

[vague ridge]

idea is great but execution is not hahaha

definitely need options to reroll, or allow us to extract and swap tempers around

[edgy sun]

What are the levels for the mace? Like tiers I mean

[hidden fractal]

I understand. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that stranger things have happened and questionable decisions have been made in the past. It's not safe to assume.

[vague ridge]

and have 6 rarity feels abit overkill

[muted owl]

Sooo how’s everyone feeling?

[muted owl]

Geeeeeez

[hidden fractal]

Honestly? Not liking these changes at all. But that's just me.

[vague ridge]

love and hate relationship with this game now

[muted owl]

Valid. It’s important to post your feedback to the team. I think that’s why they released this early.

[sinful token]

from what ive seen military > officer > noble > forget the name; and up to 6 tempers

[muted owl]

Sovereign apparently

[analog plover]

work for one more hour and then i get to go home and frame my soul

[dapper gorge]

I'm no longer on the ocean floor so meh

[muted owl]

Excellent

[muted owl]

That’s good.

[vague ridge]

its a good idea but need polishing i guess

[hidden fractal]

Having 3 layers of RNG on a weapon (Quality, number of tempers, what tempers are rolled) seems excessive for a game that's core design philosophy is supposed to be more approachable than Warframe. I get that we will be able to control this a bit in the future, Steve said with crafting, but he specifically only said swapping tempers. That leaves number of tempers and quality still RNG.

Plus I dislike removing the prisms because of the resource cost now to swap. This actively imho discourages new player experimentation who will not have access to the resource, making the game less approachable, and it hurts build/theory crafters by upping the amount of things they need to do their content.

[vague ridge]

we probably dont feel it for 1 weapon but if you want to get all 52 weapons to the best rarity would be a headache. but you dont have to do that of course, just for completionist i guess

[hidden fractal]

And then that's not even bringing into the discussion the problem with inventory size that this is gonna cause when it's rolled out to all weapons. Inventory will fill up FAST. VERY fast.

[vague ridge]

but even do it for 1 weapon in every weapon class will also be a chore

[muted owl]

That’s totally valid! Have you posted anything in #1438224662344761345 ? (Mostly don’t want these points to get lost in general)

[hidden fractal]

I will when I gather my thoughts more on them. I don't want to make a post and make it seem like I'm hate posting or anything. I'd want it clear and concise, constructive.

[pearl beacon]

It's not an edit, there are 6 tiers (moonsteel is a hoax afaik)

Stock > Officer > Noble > Military > Sovereign > Legendary (I think I've got those orders right? unless I mixed officer and noble! still gathering data )

[muted owl]

Totally valid! I look forward to seeing it

[vague ridge]

this kinds of put off the idea of trying out different weapons, since i will just spend my time farming for the one weapon i like or is the "strongest". the rest of the weapon will be bad anyway

[hidden fractal]

It's definitely going to further push a "meta" mentality.

[pliant lintel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/infinyte-club-startup-2--k01KRFCWFBWREXDA87Y28EQJXG8

[pliant lintel]

no, i'm jsut using halon's razor, the most plausible outcome is most liekly to be right. and having weapons be on par is more likely than assuming that everyone at DE is brain dead enough to make fragment weapons, which we can buy in the shop, and have been presented as the weapon that will essentially be the creme of the creme, to be worse than the ones you can find on the ground

[hidden fractal]

I sadly had two friends that completely just dipped out because of the virtue prism removal change, as well. They were extremely upset. They liked the simplicity of it, the ability to swap whenever, and that it gave them motivation to grind the reputation factions. Neither of them are good with numbers much and got instantly turned off from the "free form" aspect and the fact that it costs a resource to do, since now they were afraid they would "mess it up" and thus waste the resource (Of which, said resource's drop rate really is quite low atm. I've ran sieges in between farming maces today and haven't gotten a single one yet)

[pliant lintel]

still completly insane considering i have yet to see a single noble while i have been actively farming since the release. also apparently moonstele is real, they have aknoeldged it on envoyhour, apparently

[versed idol]

Any one found a good location to farm for Orst Mace?

[muted owl]

I did get a noble but never seen legendary or the sovereign ones personally. Rng will not be kind to me at the best of times.

[hidden fractal]

Most are farming the Agari in the ruins in the center north of the map, west of the Rot area and east of the Spider agari hole

[pliant lintel]

south west is where the msot mace enemies will spawn

[vague ridge]

Will just wait for the update to marinate and settle down, one thing about DE is they response well to feedback so I'm sure they won't disappoint

[pliant lintel]

yeah, i think they might have overdone it with rarity

[drowsy birch]

hi, does any1 know how many variants does the new weapon have? or are there unlimited?

[muted owl]

I’ve heard the same sentiments from players during the introduction of prisms. I guess people do forget this game is meant to get feedback to the team.

If you can, I’d guide them to the GameInformer article where Geoff outlines some of the reasoning behind preludes.

[rare socket]

Sinecure-Errant Gawth
Last seen near Galvinar Wastes

[vague ridge]

Game is already good and polish that we tend to forget it is still an alpha

[grave granite]

Which quality tier did the paragon gretsword get with the update? Stock?

[vague ridge]

All weapons are stock now

[hidden fractal]

No weapons changed

[vague ridge]

Only the new mace have tiers

[gray torrent]

H M M

[hidden fractal]

The mace is the only test item for now

[vague ridge]

Cause they are testing the new system out

[rare socket]

only Orsrt has the Craftwork and Tempers for now

[pliant lintel]

but yeah, this sis still waay too much grind for what is suppopsed to be like, what, 70% of our arsenal?

[gray torrent]

The only weapon that have skill for now is the mace, then?

[hidden fractal]

That have the new tempers.

[vague ridge]

I feel this new systems is probably meant to replace joinery in the future

[hidden fractal]

That was what they said and why joineries changed.

Joineries used to have the special effects. Now they just edit scaling.

[vague ridge]

Yea and in the future, rarity would probably be the things to edit scaling

and tempers for special effects/skills

[hidden fractal]

I don't know if tying a fourth thing to RNG would be a grand idea.

Quality already affects the base damage. Making it affect the amount of pips too? That'd really push the whole meta mentality and I don't think that's a good idea.

[pliant lintel]

i'm in cogah farming lvl 44 enemies and i still ahve yet to see an officer weaon, i'm starting to think level doesnT' even have anything to do with drop rates

[vague ridge]

i mean they would prob remove the pips

since the quality changes the weapon stats already

[hidden fractal]

I got a noble outside of Cogah. I don't think Cogah is giving any meaningful % chance bonus, honestly. That I've seen. I did two in and two out, and the two out were higher rarity.

[woeful river]

whats the website that had a whole map of the game with boss spawn locations too?

[dapper gorge]

Balloons be actin weird

[vague ridge]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P14

[hidden fractal]

If they remove the pips then why even have stat requirements for weapons, or why scale damage based on virtue? The pips are a core component of that.

Tying all that into the RNG system would be way, way too excessive.

[pliant lintel]

well, not so much cogah then level is what i'm checking, and cogah lets me farm south weast at high level. but in a way, it'S better if rarity isn't affected by level tbh

[brittle hawk]

what up guys 😄

[hidden fractal]

I agree. Especially since not all weapons will be "end game" weapons. There will be weapons designed for new players. It shouldn't gate the rarity of them behind mob level since they wouldn't have Cogah access.

[pliant lintel]

oh, great, i crashed in cogah, welp, i guess my high level testing is done, thank mora

[eager siren]

Someone interested in farming together a little bit ?

[hidden fractal]

They really need a crash grace period to save the cogah potion effect.

[pliant lintel]

that part is actually assumption. the way things are going, and with how they said founder weapons are aimed to always be relevant, i don't thing ther ewill kind of ever be fodder weapons

[simple flame]

I can't find the envoyguard on the website at all...... am I blind???

[modern crest]

Go into Account -> Security

[simple flame]

There is no security option for me

[mortal jacinth]

Account management under your username at the top right

[simple flame]

Mine says Security and Privacy
No indication of Envoyguard in it

[mortal jacinth]

Show us

[pliant lintel]

but yeah, i'm going to assume this is absolutly not the flow they aim for, and be kinda sad for them because holy molly will they never recover fromthat first impression

[simple flame]

Weird
is there two showings of Account Management
I'm seeing two different ones... real strange

Awkard
I'll figure it out
Thanks

[half mortar]

If you try to sell the new mace in the Nightfall you get stuck on an infinite loading screen FYI

[mortal jacinth]

This does not happen to me

[hidden fractal]

It's a known bug. It happens randomly. It's been like that for a few preludes. It's selling things from inventory.

It wasn't fixed before this launched. A lot of people have never sold from inventory before or had a need to, before this mace farming, and now they're getting it/experiencing it.

[mortal jacinth]

I feel like I have the long load/transaction screens though after playing for a long time without a restart

[modern crest]

Mace farming? @_@ ravenous little blighters.

[woeful river]

do joineries not provide those buffs anymore?

[mortal jacinth]

not for a while, only the pips

i think on p14's first hotfix

[woeful river]

so all they do now is change the attunement?

[mortal jacinth]

yea

[woeful river]

what does changing attunement do again?

[mortal jacinth]

adds more damage if you have those stats, you can preview the joineries before applying

[pliant lintel]

tho, let's at least look at things positively, despite everything absolutly horrid about the mace grind that jsut reminds me of my GF farming ubers in d2, we at elast got a nice buff to tempest

[split hill]

DE I am begging you to make the wevetwood sap trees glow

[split hill]

still doesn't do voltiac damage tho

[unreal flint]

Is the new mace in the game?

[split hill]

are there gonna be armor totems? cuz the totem I just got specified "weapon"

[pliant lintel]

small detail, at least it's not weak agaisnt bosses,

[woeful river]

what bosses drop runes?

[hearty pumice]

Agari and above

[pliant lintel]

a buff i wasn't ecen expecting considering the state of things

just like hearing steve say "later this month" when refering to p15

[hearty pumice]

I farmed the boss run a loooooot to get a great sword rune

[pliant lintel]

OMG... i jsut realized why the mace farm is so terrible.....

ther emsut always be a cursed item... and they fixed gath....

[hearty pumice]

Oh no is it already confirmed terrible? I haven't been able to play

[pliant lintel]

my best comparison is like... farming enigma in d2 i guess? it'S easy to get one, but to get the one with the maxed stats, oh god

only one confirmed drop

[hearty pumice]

Ah that makes sense. Woof

[nocturne kestrel]

did I just get the best mace for my first drop? or how do these work?

[tulip raft]

no

[nocturne kestrel]

ooo so there ar emore

[half mortar]

Was this in Codah?

[nocturne kestrel]

and are those active as is or do we have to do something?

[spark plume]

where do i report a bug?

[modern meteor]

#1438224825113120788

[spark plume]

thanks!

[dapper gorge]

Is it...gold?

[pearl beacon]

mmm margerine

[unreal flint]

Where does the orst drop?

[unkempt bane]

hey, don't be tellin everyone of my butter stash

[white parcel]

can i get tldr on new update pleaes

[worn aspen]

• weapon gamba with rng perks
• swimming

[random prism]

Oh yeah, how is it now?

Does the 1 still have a super inconsistent damage hitbox?

Though I suppose the 2 and 3 now functioning against bosses is nice by itself.

[pliant lintel]

it's good

[maiden mortar]

im confused. do i have to spend a consumable every time i want to change my virtue allocations??

[white parcel]

now you do yeah

1984

[maiden mortar]

is it as bad as im thinking it is or

[random prism]

The problem is if it's easy to farm it's arbitrary and pointless, and if it's hard to farm it's limiting and just awful.

Either way it should be removed.

[white parcel]

but de loves arbitrary and pointless grind

[maiden mortar]

so it is as bad as im thinking it is

[pearl beacon]

Well, kind of - it's technically better than prisms because you get the same functionality (you can recreate each prism in a loadout slot then switch loadouts freely)

But the issue is loadout slots cost arcs

And we lost the lore of the prisms 🙁

[maiden mortar]

the loadout things makes it better but geez

[random prism]

It's just virtues 1.0 but now with an arbitrary resource cost that you grind via sieges and agari.

Probably to sell loadout slots, which save whatever virtue setup you have.

But loadout slots suck cus they save literally everything. Character appearance, colors, cosmetics, armor, pact, weapons, legit everything.

So I'd have to fiddle with everything every time I want to change my virtues.

[maiden mortar]

thats the exact same reason why i dont like it either

[random prism]

Unless I just spend one of the resource to change it and only it.

[maiden mortar]

atp they shouldve just let us make our own prisms but damn this sucks

[random prism]

Which tbh is just the better of two horrible options.

[iron socket]

Anything special I can do with the extra maces?

[random prism]

Sell them and get softlocked occasionally.

Cus that can happen whenever you sell anything.

Which they haven't fixed yet, despite adding all this.

[iron socket]

Softlocked? Like I can't close the menue?

[wanton cloak]

so many buffs now

[random prism]

When you sell anything there's a sizeable chance it'll flash with 'processing' or something like it, whatever the loading window says, and for this to just never go away.

So you're stuck staring at the loading circle spin until you give up and exit the game.

The item has not been sold btw, you get to just try again.

[strong folio]

there wasn't much of a reason to sell stuff until now so maybe they'll finally have a reason to focus on fixing that

[iron socket]

Is the hammer spin supposed to hit twice when Charged it looks and feels like it should but the second spin just doesn't do anything

[random prism]

It should, and it did upon release, but the first hotfix broke it somehow.

[nova spade]

I guess this is a pretty good roll?

Only missing the stagger modifier

[iron socket]

Just found out I can sell weapons form the invntory and skip the camel

[woeful river]

what do the locked attunements mean? i used a gildaur thriced by mora on this weapon

[random prism]

It can still happen, it's selling in general.

I've seen at least 3 mentions of people getting the softlock when selling through the inventory.

So it's just upon selling something.

[random prism]

The new UI elements are showing each virtue in its own row, they're all locked cus you don't meet the virtue req of 14 Grace.

[woeful river]

so even i attuned it for courage i still need to reach 14 grace to benefit from it?

[random prism]

Yes, all a joinery does is add additional scaling onto the weapon.

The requirement still exists.

[sharp beacon]

what does the upgrades available thing mean

am I stupid

[random prism]

Skill points for weapons.

You get to be cursed with it if you've maxed out too many.

[sharp beacon]

I cant invest them

[random prism]

Given that we have more than can be spent.

[sharp beacon]

I see

[random prism]

Yep lmao.

[sharp beacon]

hey but they buffed tempest

[random prism]

That was sorely needed.

So hey, there's some good.

[buoyant igloo]

Anyone want a magic type of weapon that lets you summon a creature and you direct it to fight? I’m trying to think of what other magic style weapons they could add to this game (getting tired of gauntlets and staff)

[random prism]

I doubt any weapons will have stuff like that, given they are just weapons.

Magick is just another category of weapon, so it'll have basic combos like the rest of them.

[sharp beacon]

that could be a cool rune I suppose

[random prism]

Yeah, rune or arcanic perhaps.

[buoyant igloo]

I’m trying to think of how they’d implement wand style weapon that isn’t the same as a staff

[random prism]

I mean, how did they implement cleavers and rapiers?

Just slightly different combos.

[buoyant igloo]

I mean but how different would the combo be for a wand?

That just also shoots out projectiles

[random prism]

Idk lmao. There's stuff you can do. Slower swings, faster swings, a differently numbered combo, given that the base is 3 and the new staff already has a slight difference in having 4. The actual speed of projectiles, how well they track, the potential for slight AoE, there's plenty of stuff you can change.

[hearty drift]

My god.... I'm gonna grind that mace so hard.

[nova spade]

Pause, they moved the Tree? It was right next to the fort

[sharp beacon]

the mace drops off heavy ode yes?

[random prism]

Anything holding it.

Including the heavy mace ladies, yes.

But not other heavies.

Like the deer skull guy.

[hearty drift]

Oh I thought it was just the named guy up by spider?

[random prism]

Nah, him, his dungeon variant, bannerets that have maces, and heavies that do.

Anyone swinging the mace around can drop it.

[hearty drift]

Even organ?

[nova spade]

Nope, All banerette drops it

[random prism]

I'd assume so yeah.

[hearty drift]

Awesome.

[random prism]

Even bannerets that don't hold it?

Pretty sure it's specifically the ones that do.

[spark yacht]

hello first time here, hoping to get an invite and play at some point, !1!!

[nova spade]

Wait, are there Banerettes that dont wield Masses?

[pearl beacon]

we are finally cooking

[wanton cloak]

DE. did we really bring landmines back and place them in unseeable terrain through out the world???

[sharp beacon]

whats the bar under my arcanics mean now

[pallid gale]

not all bannerettes are mace bannerettes. And not all mace holders are bannerettes either.

Basically, just kill mace holders.

[pearl beacon]

Yup! Kylst and Styne

[pallid gale]

but specifically ode mace holders, mendicant mace holders are holding mendicant maces.

[random prism]

Both heavy units are reused as bannerets, yes.

You can have a deer skull guy banneret and a mace lady banneret.

[random prism]

Or the new guy yeah.

[hearty drift]

So what is the status pool looking like on it ? Interested to see how versatile can build it

[nova spade]

Kylst has the Mace in his drop table tho

[random prism]

I forgot they added a third.

[heavy spruce]

i can go back to this!!!

[random prism]

Will have doodoo weapon scaling tho.

Weapon scaling heavily favors purity in virtues.

As does armor.

So just scaling in general.

[hearty drift]

Even paragon once you attune it

[winter steeple]

Nah, it's fine. I use 1:1:1 scaling and it works

[heavy spruce]

thats as even as i get due to quest responses

[random prism]

It'll work but none of your stuff will scale as high as it can.

Even with my 33/15/15, Purity isn't capped.

[winter steeple]

You don't need it to, really

[random prism]

If I swap to 41/11/11, it caps.

[heavy spruce]

as for weapon scaling, that setup there lets play any weapon and i dont struggle

[nova spade]

Toshtan and Anara dont have the mace in the drop table but Sinicure Gawth does

[random prism]

Technically not yet as there are weapons with 19 as a req lol, but you'll get there at higher MR.

[winter steeple]

Id rather effectively use any weapon than have builds designed to optimize one specific weapon

[heavy spruce]

would have good to know before i went there

[random prism]

Not even one specific weapon. My 33/15/15 setup can use every weapon in the game minus like, 2.

[heavy spruce]

thats with no pact virtue points

[tough scroll]

hey yall, where would i find invite codes for a friend to download Soulframe? I never got the welcome email..

[random prism]

Tell them to make a soulframe account so that they're in the wednesday raffle.

If you want to get in way faster, look in events and be at the next stream.

Watching for 30 minutes with a connected soulframe account is a free key.

They can watch or you can and then hand the key over.

[heavy spruce]

i could easily add 6 virtue points if it was needed with that setup in the pact tree, that setup simply lets grab in go

[random prism]

I always path to Sympathy and then all three virtue boosts as a priority.

Those are just the most useful nodes.

That is true for every pact.

Now that each virtue actually does something.

But yeah, even with prisms no longer in existence, as my MR climbs I'll probably keep a 2/1/1 ratio.

Good scaling and plenty of each other virtue's bonus.

And allows me the vast majority of weapons.

It's just a very good ratio to apply, whichever the 2 is in favor of.

As soon as MR 19 is available I'll fine-tune it to 32/16/16 so it keeps that ratio.

[sharp beacon]

i already love the mace it feels so good to use

I have no idea if this is a good roll

[random prism]

I mean I don't think any of the tempers in the pool are particularly bad.

I'd def favor the added fire damage, added voltaic, heavy charge speed, and heavy damage and stagger though.

[raw tinsel]

I see more nega review then positive.... especially the consumables virtue

[random prism]

Cus moar damage is good.

[random prism]

Arbitrary costs are annoying, yes.

And the RNG tangle that is the new system preview is... I can see why responses are iffy.

Given that there's like 6-7 tiers and it's not even guaranteed that a tier will roll its maximum amount of tempers possible.

Which is just so many layers of RNG.

[raw tinsel]

Huh? Can u elaborate? I dont understand

[random prism]

The mace can drop in several tiers. Military, Officer, Sovereign, Noble, Legendary, and Moonsteel are all ones reported so far.

[sharp beacon]

why are there so many teirs

[random prism]

Each one has a higher possible amount of tempers. Like, Military can have up to 3, Officer can have up to 4, etc.

Note, up to, it is not a guarantee.

[raw tinsel]

What does tiers mean?

[unborn jackal]

tears everywhere, lol

[random prism]

As I just said, a higher maximum amount of tempers.

Tempers being the bonus perks.

[raw tinsel]

Ahhh, does temper only affect new mace?

[random prism]

Yes, it's the only weapon in the preview of the new system.

[leaden breach]

Man i can’t wait to get a Marrow’s Bane with max tempers.

[random prism]

And getting the higher tiers is apparently absurdly rare, and again, is not a guarantee that you'll roll the maximum amount of perks.

[raw tinsel]

Ummmm any more changes i missed? Ive read it, but afraid i might miss some

Whats with finding ancestors? Just read ut on another channel

[foggy forum]

Haven't played since prelude 6. A lot has changed lol

[raw tinsel]

Sheesh

[random prism]

Ode Tempest got a much needed buff, and there are more random events around.

You can find omen beasts for a long temporary buff of your choosing.

[raw tinsel]

Ahhhhhh

[foggy forum]

Was randomly thinking about the game a couple hours ago and realized an update dropped minutes before

[random prism]

And I've seen an energy cage event several times where it's already in existence, instead of you triggering it, but has an opening and an animal cage guarded inside.

So new stuff here and there.

Oh and you can see other players when near a world tree who are also near it.

Like the souls thingy where you can see phantoms of other people near bonfires.

[raw tinsel]

Any more big changes i need to know?

[random prism]

You can walk up to and inspect what gear they're using too.

[misty veldt]

whats gawth in recruiting?

[leaden breach]

We can swim now.

[random prism]

The agari next to the spider.

[misty veldt]

ah

[raw tinsel]

Ah yeee that too ive read

[random prism]

Oh yeah we can swim, including to the previously locked island in the NW.

With the last world tree up there previously only gotten to via bug.

[raw tinsel]

And from other player, which i have 🤣

[random prism]

Yeah, lol.

I took the ocean floor route when there was a gap in the NE rocky shore.

[opal obsidian]

Hey guys, good evening. I'm Brazilian, sorry for my English. I wanted to know if anyone has any spare keys they could give me

[raw tinsel]

So any more changes I might've miss?

[random prism]

That's all I remember.

Swimming, random events, new weapon system preview, virtue system change, tempest buff.

[raw tinsel]

If it work, aint complaining, like why go thru wall checkpoint if u can go over it 🤣

[rare socket]

Ode drop pods

[raw tinsel]

Huh

[rare socket]

ode drop pods

another addition

[random prism]

Do those actually fall or are they just decoration?

[spiral crag]

they fall

[rare socket]

actually fall
had two ambush me

dunno how to trigger em tho

[spiral crag]

one almost fell on me lmao

[random prism]

Nice lol.

[rare socket]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-2-die-death-mettaton-cabal-gif-132345366162787616

[woeful river]

wow organ fights are actually really cool

[wraith briar]

how do i get an invite?

[spiral crag]

they need to tweak the new death animations, they are very good but i just had an archer aim at me standing still, backflip and die because he was on fire

[spiral crag]

eeither through the weekly invites or watching the livestreams and getting an invite code drop on twitch

[leaden breach]

Warhammer in Soulframe lol

[gray torrent]

Didnt knew all of them fall to the isle until now. Tought the shipwreks were also some of them

[tropic cypress]

I love how you can randomly see other players out in the world now

This is so peak DE

[rare socket]

nuh
the ode flew here from outer space

[spiral crag]

they are basically aliens invading

[raw tinsel]

Alert, Titanfall inbound in your location

[gray torrent]

Outer space? WHAAAT

[rare socket]

yep
they aliens

[gray torrent]

WHAAAT i tought they were just other type of humans

[rare socket]

nope
tho their appearene doesn't really healp that TwT

The ode look really human

[random prism]

You see, Soulframe is high fantasy taken to the extreme. You know that trope of technology not developing cus magic takes its place, achieving the same result with enough creativity? The Ode are that taken to its logical extreme, including space travel.

The enemy is a race of evil electric space wizards.

[spiral crag]

The corruption is basically a form of terraforming the place

[leaden breach]

If you pay attention when fighting them they bleed Ichor or black blood.

[rare socket]

did the ufos not give it away? 😂

[spiral crag]

thats why theyre focusing on "poluting" more than anything

they cant conquer the land without making it habitable for them

[gray torrent]

This one i got it but i tought it was just like a colonization thing

I mean its still is, but not from other humans

[gray torrent]

I also tought this was cuz of their armor lmao

[spiral crag]

their armor is basicallly space suits if you think about it

[gray torrent]

LMAO I SWEAR i tought it was just ways to dominate the isle

[random prism]

Warframe, the sci-fi without true aliens. Soulframe, the high fantasy with true aliens.

DE amuses me.

[gray torrent]

Damn

[spiral crag]

I love how in all of warframe we still dont have actual aliens, everything is either made by humans or an evolution of humans

[raw tinsel]

Sentient?

[random prism]

Precisely, which is the amusing bit.

[rare socket]

we also got zombies

[spiral crag]

its more horrifying for a sci fi setting

[gray torrent]

Orokin created them

[gray torrent]

Aren't Orokin aliens?

[leaden breach]

I want that sword.

[random prism]

Gene-modified human descendants.

[gray torrent]

So the Ode aren't some kind of high belic advanced human society but just teslapunk aliens

Is Midrath the whole world(at least for now) or just the island?

[spiral crag]

they are humans that modified their bodies to fit their god like ego

[gray torrent]

Didnt knew that. Tought we didnt knew what orokin were except they came from other place/galaxy

[random prism]

Midrath is the island, the world is Alca.

[spiral crag]

like if a pharaoh had access to gene manipulation

[obtuse rampart]

i think midrath = island, alca = world ?

[leaden breach]

Midrath is the “Starter Island” as far as i’m aware.

[gray torrent]

Ohhh gotcha

[mossy valley]

We technically have one (1) alien form of life

[rare socket]

It's the Lyke-wake sword
U can get from the Rovogot Ruins in New Viscii

[spiral crag]

for many people in the lore the orokin are so disconnected from humanity that most kinda think thats true, they are more alien than human

[gray torrent]

So they can be attacking other places and the Pacts aren't just ''nature/land fighting corruption'' but actually fighting aliens

[leaden breach]

Yeah i want a Long Blade version of it ⚔️

[gray torrent]

Except Carmo, she just like to fight fancy? xD

[mossy valley]

Warframe: The skymen are humans seeking to plunder resources and bodies
Soulframe: The skymen are aliens seeking to plunder resources and bodies

[spiral crag]

the only ones i can think of are the flowers on tau but i dont remember if theyre xenoflora or made by the orokin

[mossy valley]

thats the one, the xenoflora are the only confirmed alien form of life

[spiral crag]

its scarier to think that than to understand the void

[gray torrent]

They are xenoflora

Also i have other question about the lore, then. What's a Gruul?

I didnt understood why we're gruuls

[mossy valley]

you!

[nova spade]

What the best Grace short blade?

[rare socket]

Ode'n slur for earthlings

[winter steeple]

I can't Steve, I've leveled too many shortblades

[gray torrent]

Fair. Tought it ws some kind of undead/mysti being

[kind pike]

same 🙃

[gray torrent]

Do we know why we're partially blue?

[winter steeple]

i think gruul specifically refers the the envoy, since other Midrathians call you that

[mossy valley]

mhmm, at least when the void spawns its horrors it comes from something human at the base.

not them aliens tho

[winter steeple]

the fey

[gray torrent]

Ohhhh

[rare socket]

Envoys?
Half-fey, blue-blooded

[gray torrent]

Makes sense

[rare socket]

Aren't those spellsung midrathians?

[gray torrent]

So Gruul probably another thing than earthlings

[rare socket]

How new are ya to da lore?

[gray torrent]

Not much i did all the quests i just couldnt understand half of the english LMAO

But also i dont remember they explaining all that like the Ode are actually aliens

[rare socket]

Ye olde English TwT

[kind pike]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Ode'n_Silistyl#Dictionary

[rare socket]

It's kinda explained in item descriptions n stuff

[mossy valley]

Warframe: The blue people are typically assholes and theyre often the root problem
Soulframe: The blue people are ???, gone and kinda weird

[gray torrent]

I remember they showing us how is in the spaceship, that they terraform due to industry needs and settlers, but not that they aren't humans

[leaden breach]

Gruul seems like the derogatory term for those that are Fey touched or Envoys. Midrathians also call us Witches.

[gray torrent]

Oh i dont read those beside the pacts. My bad ig

[gray torrent]

Ohhh

[rare socket]

Yeah, kinda wished the ode were more alien lookin

[leaden breach]

Well we don’t know what they look like underneath their helms.

[winter steeple]

they still know that they are midrathians. if gruul was an insult towards midrathians, i doubt they would call us that

[gray torrent]

Also this also made me think that the spellsung were something from Alca/Midrath itself but was being used by the Ode to take control

[misty veldt]

sinecure dont need air

[spiral crag]

An example

[leaden breach]

The Spellsong was a weapon used by them to overcome Alcas armies.

[rare socket]

Cept for the archers, nimrod, and mada
They just look really pale

[spiral crag]

Alcas atmosphere is toxic to Oden and Oden atmosphere is toxic to humans

[mossy valley]

Wasnt there an entry that said that the Ode are from the stars and the mendicant are from the grave?

[misty veldt]

THEY HAVE DROP PODS

[rare socket]

Kinda
Some weapons like the Skilter say the ode are from the stars
I think the galvinar wastes have the info on the Mendicant

[rare socket]

Yup

[gray torrent]

Btw so Ode'n literally is ''others'' then?

[mossy valley]

Also if someone has the basal art talent I dont have, every time I listen to Song of Wastes I imagine a mendicant knight belting out that riff mid song

[gray torrent]

ANd not others cuz ''the invaders'' but like the xeno-others

[pearl beacon]

Yes the Ode are explicitly aliens

[leaden breach]

The Ode are spreading DEMOCRACY

[misty veldt]

nah bro 40k did it better

[gray torrent]

I mean like the literal meaning of the word

[winter steeple]

no, Ode'n is just the adjective form of Ode, a species from a foriegn plant now invading and occupying Midrath, and possible other parts of Alca

[gray torrent]

Hmmmmmmm

[fast crescent]

I’ve always thought it better fit “Olde’n” but just take off the “L”

[winter steeple]

Ode'n Weaponry -> Weaponry of the Ode

[pearl beacon]

I think it comes from the literal meaning of an Ode (a song), ie the Spellsong they use to subjugate their conquered enemies

[gray torrent]

So its actually their ''race''/faction

[winter steeple]

yes

[fast crescent]

Ah that’s a much better fit

[gray torrent]

Also makes sense

Damn i feeling illiterate now xdd

[brazen flame]

any one else got the new weapon via pick up and then it deletes itself?

[pearl beacon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/out-disappear-1--k01KRFMF01W23HVZJ74043Y3W01

[brazen flame]

I ended up picking up 2 one with Volatile one it used it and leveled up to 4 when back to my nightfold and it was gone

[gray torrent]

Weird. Maybe put on the #1438224825113120788 part

[brazen flame]

k

[spiral crag]

Damn i never had stopped to read some descriptions

[stiff monolith]

Anyone have and luck getting lyke wake to drop?

[spiral crag]

ichor makes both the air breathable for them and the water drinkable

[sharp beacon]

I got lyke wake fully done in like 50-60 kills while farming for that t3 from the worm

[stiff monolith]

Worm?? I’m in the glade trying to get it to drop

[misty veldt]

this castle is so cool i cannot wait when this siege comes out

[gray torrent]

Also other thing that made me think that Ode were just other humans is cuz they use bows and weaponry similar to medieval weapons instead of something weird

[sharp beacon]

It only drops in the rovogot ruins

[gray torrent]

Or their factories/tools are very medieval-modern types instead of something from outer space/technology i.e the Githyanki pods

[misty veldt]

shes not here sad :C

[sharp beacon]

The boss at the end of the ruins is a worm that has a 5% drop chance teir 3 long sword

[gray torrent]

Also all Odes talk english, altough their alphabet is different for our own in the game

[stiff monolith]

T.T where is that

[spiral crag]

i think Githyanki is a good comparison to make, especially considering the use of magic as tech

[rain jay]

what are these double lines??

[obtuse rampart]

weapon and pact xp

[sharp beacon]

Bottom of the map on the east side that area thats white and ichorfilled theres a fallen skytower entrance in that area thats where it is

[stiff monolith]

Where the king is???

[sharp beacon]

Other side

[obtuse rampart]

south west corrupted part of the map

[sharp beacon]

Literally directly opposite

Here

[stiff monolith]

Damn welp once I finish this endless I know where I’m going

[manic sonnet]

is this max right meow or am i missing something

[mossy valley]

did you just repeat the dungeon over and over? isnt there some cooldown or something?

[sharp beacon]

Yeah you can just reset the dungeon to fight it again

Its not an agari or anything its a normal dungeon boss

[stiff monolith]

Also is quick silver just a forms pretty much??

[mossy valley]

like just go to the entrance again? I only care about lyke wake

[sharp beacon]

Yeah that works

[sharp beacon]

Not really that stuff is to add more virtue scaling and some base damage to your weapons they arent adding polaritys or anything like that

And they dont reset your level

And you only need to do it once

[tough scroll]

aight yall i need some help, i am returning from awhile ago and i have the garren armor set, garren root and a ton of weapns ion my inventory but i cant equip them. any ideas?

[versed raven]

garren root

[tough scroll]

yea, i am like still super new so

[obtuse rampart]

are they the actual armor pieces or just the fragments needed to craft them

[steady wyvern]

damn bro they doin BACKFLIPS now

uh those are just the fragments I think

[tough scroll]

ah okey okey ty

[neon kelp]

can someone explain to me what these 2 do in specific?
i totally dont understand their function at all 😭

the third one i guess i get a clone so i kinda double my damage? idk
but i am totally unclear about the green one 😭

[blissful hamlet]

green one buffs highest virtue and applies a slow

[neon kelp]

ohhhh
how much its the buff??

[rain jay]

guys how do we fil in the blanks for creatures in the journal???

[blissful hamlet]

whatever that is

the slow is 50% and only applies on the initial cast

[spiral crag]

Have you started orlicks quest?

[neon kelp]

i would go with atleast a 30% or whatever,i am totally not doing maths 😭

[blissful hamlet]

yea just treat it like an indirect armor buff

[rain jay]

YWS i STARTED IT BUT NOT FINISHED

oops all caps sorry

[spiral crag]

by progressing it you will learn how to do it

[steady wyvern]

it's just floating away???

[errant plinth]

Took down a messenger Ode with a note on his back. I got a prompt to read it, but a cheeky archer shot me the second I picked it up, causing the message to close. All I read was "TAKE HEED." Does anyone have/know what the message was?

[remote sable]

Yeah I did :D

[steady wyvern]

wait

wait

THEY REWORKED VIRTUES AGAIN???????

[sharp beacon]

No no the virtues themselves are the same they reworked how you change the actual numbers again

[steady wyvern]

that's what I meant

[sharp beacon]

Oh my bad

[graceful tiger]

Twitchy-Lamp, my beloved, is still here

[sharp beacon]

Regardless of the virtue situation tethren remains steadfast, all in on full courage, still. No change for that in sight I suppose.

[errant plinth]

Subtle forshadowing.

[obtuse rampart]

yep now it takes a consumable to adjust them :)

[gray torrent]

Is this Dewellion sword also new from this patch?

[young sun]

no

[errant plinth]

Messing with Sinecure will never not be fun.

[rare socket]

charm em by performing smite

[long sparrow]

one day.... there be dragons

[rare socket]

**Bravada **- Boosts the highest Virtue stat of each Party member within range, and inflicts a slow effect on nearby enemies.
Duo Duelo - All attacks made for the duration of Duo Duelo will strike twice, though at a slightly lower damage than the original attack.

[night girder]

imagine

[long sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-dragons-flames-got-gif-14085034

[night girder]

dragons

https://tenor.com/view/minky-oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-cat-enemy-enemy-cat-gif-26037935

[rare socket]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-dragon-gif-2025708432615392412

[long sparrow]

if dragons get added as free roaming bosses..... the skyrim hoard will be upon YEE

[gray torrent]

Btw now that i know that Midrath is not a whole place of celtic inspired themes, i'm happy that we can have other sets inspired on other cultures :3

[errant plinth]

||YOU CAN FIND BROMIUS IN THE WILD!||

[rare socket]

yep
france and spain

[long sparrow]

yes and get a feww 2day exp boost

[rare socket]

u can find all Omen beasts in the wild

[long sparrow]

okie hear me out...

[neon kelp]

ohhhh
thanks a lot
i get it more clear now

[final onyx]

Hello

[ivory thistle]

hello i keep getting a error everytime i open the soulframe installer i get a error how do i fix it

[long sparrow]

image a jacksmith style blacksmith mechanic but also the ability to draw on unique details into the weapons we forge allowing each player to have their own unique style then be able to trade or even sell them to other players

[kind pike]

I'm betting one of these days a dev will hide an easter egg out here
today is not that day but one day...

[long sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/flipline-game-on-video-flash-flashpoint-gif-4463544328962669817

[rare socket]

who dat

[long sparrow]

look up the old game called jacksmith

[steady wyvern]

how do I get the Shortblade runes again

[rare socket]

also
are u dat "Keysharpe" dude in the Forums?

[errant plinth]

I am!

[rare socket]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wow-you-dont-say-michael-office-wow-michael-scott-gif-11124235989547302113

i remember u from my Ode lore post!

[errant plinth]

I'm in a Cloudkracker lore post!?

Ooo.

[rare socket]

one of the commenters actually TwT

but yeah
nice ta seeya :3

[errant plinth]

I used to refer to you as the Librarian, because you were always feeding us lore through Reddit, the Soulframe Forums, and Discord.

[errant plinth]

Nice to see ya too!

[rare socket]

https://tenor.com/view/sao-alicization-kirito-kirigaya-kazuto-asca-gif-24650815

also, for some new lore
Mestra Carmo and Blue Ribbon might be from Cassia

the origins for the Navalha and Espadarte label em and Cassid

[errant plinth]

Interesting. I'll be darned if we don't visit Cassia at some point in the future.

[kind pike]

I'm so excited for the future of this game

[mossy valley]

Be Cassid
Sail to alca
Time 2 be plunderer
Get your ass beat by your master 2 times
Skill issue.exe
Learn rapier
Beat master
Become master
Die
Some dude with a weird arm makes a pact with you so they can yarr harr over interstellar plunders
Plunder profit?

[rare socket]

either that or get lit on fire by Fenn Jotar

[mossy valley]

its mendicant not mendican

[steady wyvern]

is it just me or did the Ode enemies stop kamikaze-ing

[mossy valley]

thats one long sword

[rare socket]

no they still do that

[rare socket]

kinda strange for a king to be a begger i think
since the Mendicant King kinda seems like the one to start it

[kind pike]

Considering the Wazzard in the Rovgot Ruins says "Sleep denied, they clot like soul-scabs. Rotted blood in irritant steel." maybe they're begging for release

[fallow hemlock]

how should i go about farming stultin?

[misty veldt]

this annoys me to no end

[fallow hemlock]

the worst part is it triggers the upgrade notification

[oblique pawn]

From what lore we have, it's possible they are beggars for power

[steady wyvern]

oh hey, I just...get the new mace from killing a Banneret, apparently.

[oblique pawn]

The Ichor transformed and reawoke them, but the lore seems to have them claiming its ability to do so

[fallow hemlock]

that's how you get it. from the enemies that weild it

[oblique pawn]

And the Wazzard explicitly wants magic power

[steady wyvern]

I wonder how good it is

[mossy valley]

I think also because theyre really just zombies too

theres much theyre clinging onto which they cannot have

[hybrid pasture]

whats the "paragon" in the new virtue? just having all 3 at the same points?

[thorny sentinel]

hello, can we change gender on this prelude?

[analog plover]

-# i mean it would be kind of ironic if Carmo and Crew were trying to leave Midrath only to get ship wrecked and drift back to midrath lol

[hybrid pasture]

wait, both of my fable choices were spirits??

[analog plover]

could also be pact point allocation

[errant plinth]

"The Chosen One"

[hybrid pasture]

its paragon, means its already perfectly middle I think

[young sun]

yes

[young sun]

I both picked courage

[thorny sentinel]

May i ask how? I just started this game. Thank you

[young sun]

you need to progress the story until you get the witch vermina in your nightfold

[hybrid pasture]

that's new

[thorny sentinel]

got it, thank you very much

[hybrid pasture]

woah

new icon

[young sun]

excuse me dear envoy. that's called drowning, not swimming

[plain torrent]

I haven’t played since December i feel so lost lol

[hybrid pasture]

uhh Im alone, and no one is trtapped??

[whole fossil]

is the best way to farm random tier 3 fragments just do northern map activities?

[analog plover]

gotta take the ode inside out from the outside

the turns have tabled

[hybrid pasture]

looks like sinacure traps are bugged?

they gets activated on their own without anyone being there

[stiff monolith]

How did you get yours to say paragon

[hybrid pasture]

perfectly center

hmm should they change it to every 3 envoy rank, you get 1 point in every virtue, instead of just 1 per envoy rank which is a little inconsistant for your builds

[red axle]

How your paragon has 20 20 22 mine only has 15 15 14

[kind pike]

don't worry it gets worse 😂

[stiff monolith]

Feels and lovely pfp

I did not know we could increase the animals on are weapons

[minor cypress]

i made an account for soulframe and i still havent gotten a code to play the game

this was like 3-4 months ago

[spice walrus]

Invites are given out in batches of 2,000 every week. It's random (as far as I know, at least). You can watch a dev stream to earn an invite as a twitch drop, or purchase a founder's bundle.

[stiff monolith]

Tennocon might give free access again

[minor cypress]

i hope bro ive been itching to try this game out

[stiff monolith]

Or as kazyyk said

[mild warren]

mine took a year and a half to get 🤣

[stiff monolith]

So how does one get ode tempest pact last one I’m missing rn

[red axle]

Buy

[main lantern]

I have one

[red axle]

From faction

[stiff monolith]

Which faction

[red axle]

I forgot

[winter steeple]

Alca and Rose

[stiff monolith]

Figures I’m in mora

[winter steeple]

thats how it goes

[mild warren]

you can still change your factions anytime

[red axle]

Its free

[winter steeple]

or buy from the camel for 215 arcs

[stiff monolith]

Was trying to save arcs but yeah

[hybrid pasture]

does heavy attack speed increase throw speed?

[stiff monolith]

No throw speed is its own

[hybrid pasture]

welp, that's a meh combo

[mild warren]

just grind it my friend, storage capacity is the best bet for arcs

if money is not an issue, you go for it

[stiff monolith]

For now until we get a soulframe night wave

[hybrid pasture]

unbelieveable, Paragon is Stock??

[red axle]

Who that

[stiff monolith]

Damn look at that damage

[hybrid pasture]

it is very low though

[stiff monolith]

….. higher that what I hit for

[hybrid pasture]

some people's attacks are 200 and heavy 400s...

[young sun]

reforge

[stiff monolith]

For starts combined you got 300 and 600

[red axle]

I put 30 on grace whit invisible rune activated duelo second abilty did 1.8k dmg as backstab

[hybrid pasture]

also depends on weapon type I guess

[white ginkgo]

I've managed to get a 637 displayed on the charged attack. Can't remember what the basic attack showed

[tight stag]

Is there a player interaction with the Sky Cowbells?

[white ginkgo]

I'm trying to figure out what you mean by the sky cowbells

[tight stag]

Dem Cowbells know how to fly now

[white ginkgo]

Oh. the drop pods. If there is i haven't seen anyone talk about it

[winter steeple]

damn, getting these is gonna be hard

[strong galleon]

what the best armor for tanking ?

[winter steeple]

It depends

on your prism virtue arrangement

[quartz kernel]

we have alecaframe for soulframe now?

[winter steeple]

yeah

[tulip raft]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1503978420617613312

[quartz kernel]

interesting...

[tulip raft]

？

[summer axle]

Yeah I mentioned this earlier

[quartz kernel]

time to update my aleca kekw

[summer axle]

The guy hasn’t responded to proof requests

[sick gull]

So in the new patch...

How do you change the totems on a weapon?

[summer axle]

So can’t be sure it’s real

[winter steeple]

theres a little icon next to the weapon when you hover over it

[sick gull]

did they remove the hotkey for it for some (dumb) reason?

[winter steeple]

hotkey?

[sick gull]

hover over weapon, hit y well on controller

[red axle]

Its AI

[winter steeple]

what is

[sick gull]

So annoying lol

[winter steeple]

also, check out this stagger machine lmao

I JUST SOLD IT

fuuuuuuuuuuu

[red axle]

Sus

[summer axle]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[sick gull]

this should really be aware if you have usable points not that you have points. Maxed longblade and its 38 points

[winter steeple]

damn it damn it damn it!

[summer axle]

It’s okay youll find a better one

[winter steeple]

I know

but its annoying

time to put in another shift at Fell The Might inc.

[hybrid pasture]

whats that

[pallid gale]

ode drop pods

[winter steeple]

Wyld Oscelda armor, recolored to be mostly blue

[hybrid pasture]

huh so that's the drop pod, its bigger than I thought seeing in coming down

[sick gull]

Ode'bital drop pod troopers

[winter steeple]

and i think the weapon is Nurash

[hybrid pasture]

huh HUD size also alters crosshair size

[sick gull]

huh first time seeing this drop on a random enemy

[young sun]

it's new. it leads to a mace banneret

[winter steeple]

hey now... what is that...

[half mortar]

I'm happy with this

[hybrid pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-cabal-crushed-annihilated-gif-24612063
can't wait for this to happen

[winter steeple]

what is bro doing?

[fallow hemlock]

do we know when the next devstream is happening?

[young sun]

doing some bear necessities

[winter steeple]

the simple bear necessities?

[gusty nexus]

look at his face, he's high af

[winter steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/baloo-jungle-book-backscratch-gif-10385357

this is bromius rn

also, there are no Mendicant origin sidearms

[young sun]

I kinda don't like the new ragdoll animations, they feel weightless

even knives can throw the enemies far away and make them backflip

[strong galleon]

So I'm using knight of paladine for tanking and bear pact so my armor type doesn't matter?

[plush rose]

wolf mommy here?

[gusty nexus]

does the exp buff stack btw? 😄

[winter steeple]

armor type doesn't really matter in my opinion. I just focus on making the total as high as possible

[analog plover]

May 29th

its odd it never got posted in here though

[wooden goblet]

I love that you can now find Omen beast around the world

[olive scaffold]

Guysss

We need Ballas in Soulframe

[wooden goblet]

We have Ballas at home

[olive scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/ballas-warframe-narmer-gif-24413311

[wooden goblet]

And he floaty

[olive scaffold]

oh whos that

[wooden goblet]

You see him in wastebear fable

[olive scaffold]

meh ballas better

Are u talking about the rat 💀

[wooden goblet]

No!

[winter steeple]

i ownder if sirin can pickpocket orst-III

[wooden goblet]

Skyrim style

[winter steeple]

In the early days of BG3, you could pickpocket basically anything, including clothing and armor

[wooden goblet]

You know i hope they make it so that you can use joineries to get blessing on weapon since i have quite a stock of joineries in my inventory

Single blessing could give one and could be use to reroll another blessing to replace one you don’t like

[charred crag]

got one early access code. @ me if you dont have access yet, first one gets it 🫶

[wooden goblet]

While twice and thrice blessed would give weapon 2-3 perks

Also early prelude day weapon don’t feel vintage when they are labeled as Stock class

[arctic dock]

Guys i had spent all my 100 arcs in the last update buying slots.. Shouldnt i get a refund?

[wooden goblet]

You did

[arctic dock]

They gave me 50 slots in this update along side 0 arcs.

Is this normal?

[wooden goblet]

If you did not, contact support

[arctic dock]

How can i?

[wooden goblet]

At bottom of soulframe home page or at forum

[arctic dock]

Thanks

[winter steeple]

Ya know, the biggest thing i miss about the prisms is that they gave us little lore bites. Like, one of them mentioned that Mora and Saphene are a married, and another mentioned that iridis is their son. same for Iridis' children, paladine, oro, and verus

[wooden goblet]

Same

[restive hornet]

is there any indicator on how much of my storage capacity is already used? and is every item just 1 capacity?

[wooden goblet]

Not sure if you can see it from menu and inventory tab

[wide compass]

give me please

[charred crag]

sent :)

[gusty nexus]

check the shop where you buy more capacity, top-right corner tells you what you've left

[restive hornet]

okay thanks! I was a bit confused by the 49 and thought this is what's taken. 😄

[lyric pawn]

is there spots where i can find them or is it fully random?

[wooden goblet]

What if the caster weapons had Monster hunter Hunting horn type gameplay? You would be weaving spells, buffs and debuffs with attacks.

[wooden goblet]

Its Random i think

[lyric pawn]

gotcha ty

thats lowkey cooler

[wooden goblet]

Mama Orengall gave me xp boost buff

[winter steeple]

why does my odiac have orst-III tempers?

[lyric pawn]

bogged

[raven marsh]

would love to see a way to extract tempers and add them to other weapons so it doesn just become like the scene from toy story where the boy throws away the toy

[swift gale]

Yo! my first million

[stuck linden]

Guys I fell into a tube at the Organ and now I'm trapped

[lyric pawn]

/unstuck

[stuck linden]

oh that did work

[winter steeple]

guess you live there now, sorry m8

[stuck linden]

real

[gusty nexus]

at least he has a home

🥹

[winter steeple]

bros never heard of the nightfold

[lyric pawn]

imagine if carmo pulled up to the nightfold in a ship

[winter steeple]

peak?

[lyric pawn]

im sayin bro

just have the ship parked behind the tent

[pallid gale]

She's on our soon to be sailjack already

in the world if you go to the south west there's a ship docked

grand theft nautical.

[lyric pawn]

is sailjack actually a thing coming or is it headcannon

[pallid gale]

they added swimming, mestra is waiting on a ship after the quest, and IIRC in a devlog they said something about sailjack.

but that's IIRC

[restive hornet]

anyone else having horrendous lags all of a sudden? game was buttersmooth before 14.5

[lyric pawn]

its been fine for me

[raven marsh]

ive had lighting fractures or whatever i would call them

[lyric pawn]

oh i have had a weird white border show up while attacking

[winter steeple]

instead of calling them Preludes X.5, these inbetween updates should be called Interludes

[raven marsh]

que elevator lounge music

[slate epoch]

Ok so like, the world trees showing other players is awesome. But why are there no names? Or am I missing something?

[solid fable]

i like it without names personally, i don't always want to be identifiable 🥷

[slate epoch]

Forgive me if im wrong because I havent been to one lately, but dont you get to see other player names at the faction hubs?

[hushed rampart]

is there a way to check names?

[lyric pawn]

maybe a name or add friend or dm option would be fire after u inspect people at trees

[slate epoch]

Yeah just seeing their name would make this feature literally amazing

[solid fable]

yeah, i'm pretty sure you can still see names at enclaves

[slate epoch]

Could just message people at the trees and send an invite or something

[raven marsh]

im not sure if i would want to be randomly invited at a tree

[solid fable]

i can see it going both ways, i think it depends how they want to develop it
ie. if it's intended to be a recruiting thing or a way to meet people, or if it's intended to be more like just seeing those phantoms in souls games

[lyric pawn]

streamer mode or smth to fix unwanted invites

[lyric pawn]

but i get that too

[slate epoch]

Thats a fair point. Maybe a way to hide your name in the settings?

[raven marsh]

i mean if theres a feature to ipt in to be invited like the sale stalls in relays

[viral raft]

is the mmo system out yet ?

[raven marsh]

i think its best to have a opt in system rather than opt out

its probably never gonna become an mmo

its a 3 player coop option

its mostly a solo game in a sense

[random prism]

I wish to be recruited to join random mayhem.

The forest must be watered with blood.

[winter steeple]

this, i wish i had someone to play with most of the time

[wooden goblet]

Oh boy i can’t wait to try mendica- dammit another player was here first… now i gotta wait 30 mins for him to spawn!

[slate epoch]

Found synods alt

[wooden goblet]

I still remember how werewolf/vampire was gatekeeped by other players is Elderscrolls online

[random prism]

And this may sound antisocial but I'd like a drop in drop out with strangers. When you coordinate with someone and get manually invited, there's like this expectation that you'll be there for a bit. What if a family member needs help with something? What if my cat barfs? What if I just really need to take a big dump? I'd like to hop in for like, an Agari or two, maybe a dungeon, and then hop out, so a random queue of some sorts sounds nice.

No expectations there.

Just a random dude who's there for a bit and then moves on.

[wooden goblet]

Isnt that already a thing?

[random prism]

In SF? No.

[solid fable]

that sounds similar to what most games do with matchmaking

[winter steeple]

thats how multiplayer in warframe works

[random prism]

Yeah, so I'm hoping SF gets something similar.

Applied in its own way.

[pallid gale]

yeah no, leave it at souls ghosts that you can see, KTHX. we don't have a nav system (and I don't want one either).

[raven marsh]

it would be fun if ther was a little zone in sieges where you could see other players and invite them

[solid fable]

yeah, right now it does feel like it's just an ambient thing, and i prefer that, personally

don't debate me on this, it's just a personal preference

[wooden goblet]

Prepare for debate! En gard!!

[random prism]

I know a dev has stated an intent to add more short form multiplayer, and this is DE, so I know such a thing will come.

I'm just wondering how they'll spin it and fit in into SF. I love me some short form multiplayer.

[wooden goblet]

I think that squad mate are ancestors that appeare to help

And once done, leave in wisp style like orlick does

[solid fable]

just put these buttons in the game

[wooden goblet]

Jolly co-operation

[ripe kestrel]

Never seen this island before, but i guess it's why there is a hidden path starting to build since P13 or P12 at the NE of the map here

[misty veldt]

Mark it on the map

Cause like

U looking at the main island lowkey

[ripe kestrel]

can't really edit the pictures with my game open

[misty veldt]

U can

[ripe kestrel]

not with 8gb or RAM

[misty veldt]

Print screen button

[ripe kestrel]

better for you ?

[winter steeple]

the people complaining about the new tempers thing being too destiny-like are babies and would not survive grinding adversary weapons in warframe

[ripe kestrel]

you mean liches ?

[winter steeple]

and Sisters of Parvos, and Technocyte Codas

[misty veldt]

Old or new?
Old liches REALLY hurt warframe
Destiny is dead

[uneven timber]

anyone help me remember why i might be getting +1 to all virtues? after adjusting, spirit is at 1... then i get 6 from the pact (levels 1, 2 and 3) which is 7... but its at 8 (same for courage, went all grace) not using +1 to all talisman

[winter steeple]

bear or wolf quest

[misty veldt]

Quests

[raven marsh]

1 is minimum i think

[misty veldt]

They dont amount to much

Kinda just there

[shadow holly]

hi, u guys know if higher lvl have more chances for rarity drop ?

[uneven timber]

afaik i took the grace choice every time, would it scale over to other attributes somehow?

[misty veldt]

Not to my knowledge

[ripe kestrel]

Are we capped on the amount of the same weapon we can have (after getting my 12th Orst i couldn't get more (could've been just being unlucky also

[shadow holly]

u need more slots

[shadow holly]

ty

[ripe kestrel]

No i still have 5 more slots free

[misty veldt]

Think levels only scale xp
Health
Damage and armor

[ripe kestrel]

and even then it should drop, but not be pickable

[raven marsh]

so do you get a message saying you cant pick it up you are full

[shadow holly]

had 40 in my inv yesterday

[ripe kestrel]

there are none dropping that's what i'm saying

after 12 i didn't get anyone since

[raven marsh]

only club bannerets drop them

[misty veldt]

Paragon sword should lowkey get its own custom tier of quality above legendary

[ripe kestrel]

you take me for someone dumb enought ? i only target them, just didn't get any more loot even with sirin on them, just purely nothing from them on at least 10

[pallid gale]

lich weapons that have both no actual rng perks, just a % modifier of an element that you can increase without praying it drops a voltaic, charge attack boost, swing speed, increased smite, increased riposte, increased-

There's a big difference between lich weapons and the orst pretending otherwise is wild.

[winter steeple]

sure, but orst is super east to get.

[pallid gale]

the 'perk' of the lich weapon is just built into the thing, the one thing is the % element modifier but that's it/

[raven marsh]

im assuming we will get the splice option at some point like we have with coda weapons

[ripe kestrel]

yeah unless we get our own way to put the additional tempers on them, it's gonna be pain to optimize all weapons almost feel like borderlands weapons

[winter steeple]

acting like getting a decent orst is such an unbearable challenge is just people being whiners

[pallid gale]

The orst is 'easy to get' but they want to extend it to more weapons, which we can't say that will be as easy to obtain

[winter steeple]

i doubt they want to do that

because that would be stupid

[raven marsh]

is the max you can have 5 or more

[random prism]

More.

[misty veldt]

People dont like a system in a game
"Well i dealt with it in another game"
Poor argument

[pallid gale]

ignore p15's content that they've talked about then

[ripe kestrel]

swimming is so slow, what a curse to do that

[misty veldt]

Spam jump while swimming

[pallid gale]

it's like, 6 at the very least, I saw a pic with 8, but I'm unsure if that's doctored or not.

[pallid gale]

don't spam jump, just crouch.

[ripe kestrel]

that's what i do since it's the only way to not get bored too much

[meager scroll]

Is it possible to change pacts (i am tethren now, thats called a pact right?) later

[random prism]

There are 6 rarities. Military, Officer, Sovereign, Noble, Legendary, and Moonsteel. Each tier presumedly adds another temper to the maximum amount possible, though each one rolling at its maximum amount is not guaranteed. Military has a max of 3, Officer a max of 4, and so on.

[winter steeple]

when did they say all weapons would have tempers. Actually, if im remembering correctly, someone said the tempers would be modifiers for a specific tier of weapons

[random prism]

Most weapons will have tempers, only weapons of significance will be crafted via fragments.

At least such has been stated.

The lower tiers will just drop straight and be subject to this new system.

[raven marsh]

so do you have to be in cougha for higher grades

[random prism]

That I have no clue.

I just know they're stupidly rare.

[ripe kestrel]

thanks god my first noble is at it's maximum then ^^'

[random prism]

Rare enough for them to call out the first guy who dropped moonsteel on stream.

[hot berry]

i can rest now 🥹

[pallid gale]

and I did say they plan to expand it to more weapons, not all weapons. (Though, if not expanded to all weapons, then the weapons that don't have them are lacking which y'know, that's a great outlook)

[misty veldt]

They better make the game harder if they add tempers
Lowkey already has power creep

[ripe kestrel]

at least my noble has only one temper that i don't care and would've prefer something else (like the electric one)

[raven marsh]

imagine if orst was a 3 star weapon

ye the eletric one is the one i have to have rest are bonus

its not like 2 tempers are bad heh

its just better with more

[ripe kestrel]

well i want electric, but also boosts on heavy charge and more stagger/smite chances are also good for me

[random prism]

Imagine the increased damage + stagger while sprinting and the increased damage + stagger on heavies on a GS running heavy.

[pallid gale]

2 tempers VS 6 though. (especially with how they stack ontop of one another, like if you have a voltaic faster charge attack increased charge attack running charge attack- ETC.)

[raven marsh]

treefell does alot of damage

[random prism]

It ignores a chunk of armor and DR in this game is flat.

So that's just a straight damage boost.

[winter steeple]

mine has 3 of the 4 stagger bonuses lol

[raven marsh]

only need swing speed really

[ripe kestrel]

for a perfect one to me on noble just remove rejoinder and replace it with galvanic strike

[rare socket]

Kinda sounds like how loots works in The First Descendant

[ripe kestrel]

not doing dodge attacks on a gigantic mace

i just wish cogah wasn't a consummable, because every time i disconnect it wastes my cogah and i have to go back to the forest farm these darn saps