envoy-gathering

[winged juniper]

a few mins

[raw valley]

When do I get the Fine Wine weapon? Is it magical? How does wine hurt enemies? Does it put them to sleep? 🤡

[pliant lintel]

yeah, we'll see where it goes, but hot reaction, not a fan. I liked actually having to commit and there not beign a perfect prism

[oblique pawn]

They likely won't go back, if they tried something new it's because they had a goal in mind

[remote glacier]

hmmm well guess I should take the advantage and buy as much slots as needed in advance no?

[oblique pawn]

If this new system doesn't hit the goal they'll replace it with something new

[limpid ivy]

If the virtue ratios were able to be saved and returned to i think that would be better.

Like, customize a prism, then you permanently have it, instead of it being a consumable.

[oblique pawn]

So prisms are likely dead now

[obtuse rampart]

if i go buy a ton of slots now no way they carry over right

[dapper gorge]

I thought prisms had promise, could have added bonuses and affects

To add diversity

[paper cargo]

at this point unsure if they understand what people's problem was with prisms

[pliant lintel]

hal;f dead, they are still there is some mechaniocal aspect.

[quiet swallow]

I think this system but just without the cost would genuinely work fine

[jolly lake]

Prisms pulverized

[raw valley]

What are prisms?

[dapper gorge]

Predetermined virtue spreads basically

[obtuse rampart]

wont matter in a few minutes

[analog plover]

[oblique pawn]

They did, but they also were looking to avoid a certain issue it looks like. They needed limits, hence trying prisms. But people wanted fine tuning, so apparently this is Virtue Allocation 3.0

[dapper gorge]

Granted I can't watch so maybe the stream added context?

[pearl beacon]

omg

lore accurate item origins oh my

[merry ore]

ooh, it's earlier

[quiet swallow]

That’s not today right?

[sturdy geyser]

It is

[pliant lintel]

tbh, as long as we can essentially keep our premade prisms i'll be good

[pearl beacon]

Nurash

Forged - The Quiet Years
Origin - ???

[sturdy geyser]

Oh not today no

[oblique pawn]

The devstreams are not, no

[analog plover]

nah this is for the 29th

[merry ore]

May 29th

[oblique pawn]

Isn't Forged just the time and place you got the item from?

[pearl beacon]

Aww man don't say that!!

[oblique pawn]

The writeup seemed to imply that

[random prism]

It's when when you make it yeah.

[pearl beacon]

Wait even for the pre-crafteds?

[random prism]

Or found, yes.

[hushed rampart]

new update is making me a little nervious

[oblique pawn]

Seems that way yeah

[pearl beacon]

Ah alas, I wanted the forged date of all the mockery gear hahaha

[paper cargo]

respeccing virtues now costs a resource which is a really weird thing to have considering prisms did not have that issue and neither did the older allocation system.
At the same time switching between loadouts is free so it's like prisms that you kinda make and forget which i don't really get why we need.

[oblique pawn]

Hmm, overall: 50/50 on this update. Gonna need to play it a bit to know more.

[dapper gorge]

All accounts?

[pliant lintel]

same. but hey, it's alpha, we are here to test. so when it drops we test,a nd we flood them with feedback

[dapper gorge]

I guess the early testers are losing their bonus slots, bummer

[raw valley]

It will? I'll have to be more careful about doing that, then? Don't want to waste resources I might need later.

[oblique pawn]

The thing is, before prisms people were basically doing builds where they'd be able to fine tune things freely. Prisms were seemingly added as DE's response of not wanting people to do that, people weren't happy, so they brought back fine tuning but added a cost.

[simple mason]

You have to hit a button to confirm and can revert

[pliant lintel]

this also would make loadout slots a lot more needed, and those aren't free

[oblique pawn]

So personally the impression is that they want to make sure there is a limit on your virtue allocation

[simple mason]

I'll have to see about the new system but I did like Prisms

[pliant lintel]

yeah, loved them even

[random prism]

I think prisms were working fine tbh and more could've been added later.

[oblique pawn]

The existing gear is slot protected it seems

[random prism]

The new system is just the old with a cost that'll become irrelevant when farming agari.

So it's just 1.0 but again.

[paper cargo]

I don't feel like changing your build around should ever cost anything. Games that do this usually have some real reason to limit loadout changes. Soulframe doesn't seem to have those reasons as of yet

[dapper gorge]

Hot

[nova hamlet]

Yeah I preferred prisms it made building feel better

[pliant lintel]

from what i oculd sense, the big "issue" with prisms is that you could not essentially min max into making the one ultimate stat spread

[hoary glen]

They listed to my prisms feedback and did exactly what I wanted 😭😭. Is there a way to find my old feedback ?

[random prism]

The cost is a bit arbitrary. Make it too hard to farm and it's bad, make it too easy and it's irrelevant.

[red axle]

14.5 baby

[random prism]

So this is a very weird choice.

[oblique pawn]

Not looking forward to finicking with exact slide placement to get the spread we want tbh

[nova hamlet]

Hopefully we get presets

[pliant lintel]

yeah

[paper cargo]

If they are scared of someone spam changing these things and breaking their servers or something just put a cooldown when you do it repeatedly or something? i dont know

[raw valley]

If there's a cost, it's usually to either discourage the action or to encourage gathering resources.

[somber bear]

We're getting armor slots? 🤔

[sturdy geyser]

Seems so

[oblique pawn]

Not exactly

[somber bear]

OOOh

[pliant lintel]

i think it's more that they want peopel to commit rather than jsut switch around power min maxing

[oblique pawn]

Everything is becoming Gear Slots

And Armor now takes up slots

[somber bear]

That's a fair change, I kinda like it

[remote vale]

so i just bought the game but if i try to download the game this shows up what do i do

[narrow skiff]

We're farming armors again

[random prism]

You select a folder for it to install.

[simple mason]

You're selecting an install folder

[sturdy geyser]

Pick another drive

[somber bear]

click "select folder"

[oblique pawn]

Asking for an install location for the game files

[paper cargo]

which is exactly why i think it's weird, why discourage switching virtue points around? What's wrong with people moving around their virtues, i dont see why that needs to be discouraged

[nova hamlet]

Select a folder

[oblique pawn]

What you installed was the launcher

[random prism]

Make a new folder, place it wherever you want.

[raw valley]

I don't either... I haven't tried switching my stat points around in a while.

[random prism]

It's just an install location, I didn't think those were so rare nowadays.

[merry ore]

Brat-Orst.

[north snow]

Does the new wep do actual status damage like an electric proc?

[oblique pawn]

At a guess? They want people to stick with a given build for longer.

[oblique pawn]

Not that we know of

[paper cargo]

some rpgs do skill trees that are a part of your character's identity - this is where there are no respecs or they are heavily limited. Virtues just aren't that.

[oblique pawn]

It's just a big hammer

[random prism]

Yeah, it seems to be for build adjustments, not build changes.

[north snow]

Heard

[nova hamlet]

To prevent people from obsessing over getting the max build

[dapper gorge]

Going to make leveling different weapons/pacts a bit of a pain

[random prism]

They want virtues to be more stable, something you fine-tune rather than rapidly swap between.

[sturdy geyser]

It's to encourage using loadouts, set up multiple loadouts and with the currency once, then ur good

[random prism]

Oh yeah cus you'd have to burn a resource to meet virtue reqs lol.

[nova hamlet]

We already have skill tree though almost too many imo

[jolly lake]

A dynamic world. Look Bethesda, look!

[dreamy burrow]

s

[paper cargo]

Imo I would even move the respec resource to weapon arts - after all they are kind of meant to be more permanent skills that you dont change around all that much

[dapper gorge]

Maybe it's possible to spread even and swap out talismans as needed?

You'll get suboptimal damage but will spend less resources on respecs

[gloomy finch]

If only Beth was like DE with 76...

[hidden fractal]

I'm not too keen on respeccing costing a resource. That discourages testing.

[nova hamlet]

I don't see DE doing a fallout game

[gloomy finch]

I'm talking more for customer respect and listening

[nova hamlet]

Like I mean if they tried it wouldn't feel like fallout

[paper cargo]

this is like if you wanted to change around your mods in warframe you would need to pay an entry fee to the mod menu

[raw valley]

Oh, so kind of like an ad-hoc frame. Sounds like maybe it's trying to create a skill set cook book, where the right allocation unlocks skills that are only available with juuust the right mix, and then you unlock that play style and moves.... or not.

[nova hamlet]

Oh yeah makes sense

[simple mason]

It's a bit more like Forma than just changing mods, you can freely swap weapons, armor, talisman, etc... but need to spend a resource to adjust the underlying stats

[sturdy geyser]

Once and that's it

[simple mason]

I still think Prisms may be more clean but will have to test

[spiral crag]

We can swim now!

[desert wave]

Did Steve say Soulframe 14.5 will be dropping today in a few minutes? .- .

[random prism]

Yeah I don't think prisms had a problem that's being solved here.

[simple mason]

Yes

[abstract cove]

and yes, you can swim to the island

[paper cargo]

disagree; forma is a permanent change to your piece of gear while this is just moving values around with no actual improvement. Even swap polarity in warframe is a free action.

[rose mortar]

did i hear "the countdown has started" ?????

[red axle]

yay swiming

[abstract cove]

no greentext yet

[worn aspen]

they really be asking for a name for soulframe captura when Soulfie is right there

[sturdy geyser]

Yes

[desert wave]

Not sure who Howl is saying yes to

[rose mortar]

i love this so much

[raw valley]

I did find it a little funny to walk along the bottom of the water.

[abstract cove]

nvm there is

[simple mason]

It's a permanent change to that loadout slot

[hidden fractal]

Agreed. I preferred prisms. I don't like this change, at all. Adding a resource to fix a problem that wasn't a problem.

[spiral crag]

no more under sea map exploring

[keen sentinel]

hi hi guys

[pearl beacon]

Wahoooo steven island here we come

[hidden fractal]

That discourages experimentation and testing.

[nova hamlet]

P15 would be after tennocon?

[desert wave]

Let me know though guys

[sturdy geyser]

Before

[abstract cove]

3 minutes

[oblique pawn]

Will give it a try, but not currently too hopeful on the respec system

[simple mason]

I mean worst case scenario you set your loadout to whatever the Prism spread was and use those loadouts as Prisms

But that's why we test stuff, see what works

[pliant lintel]

yup

[obtuse rampart]

i really really dont like it as someone who likes to swap what im using a lot

[pearl beacon]

Hm that's true! You can kinda recreate prisms manually or tweak to your desire

[remote glacier]

thankfully this game is still pre alpha

[golden lagoon]

i got extra loadout slots just for the prisms 😄

[random wing]

tbf it is more freedom than the prisms

[rotund jewel]

I can’t believe we got swimming now

[hidden fractal]

But then you're locked and can't switch without the resource. It still limits experimentation and testing.

[dapper gorge]

More in some ways, less in others

[misty drift]

it feels like unneeded friction to make it a consumable resource instead of just set them to what you want per loadout

[dapper gorge]

More granularity, less changing as desired

[pearl beacon]

You can switch loadouts freely anytime!

[hidden fractal]

This. x10000.

[desert wave]

Oh I see greentext in-game!

[rose mortar]

i agree on that tbh

[sturdy geyser]

U won't spend the resource as many times as you guys think

[rotund jewel]

I remember the first time I asked about swimming and Sarah made Steve promise and he was so hesitant lmao

[desert wave]

Green text is in the game!

[gray torrent]

Are Wyld Pacts the same thing of Prime frames?

[golden lagoon]

anyone on to post greentext?

[sturdy geyser]

It's a one and done thing

[random wing]

yes

[obtuse rampart]

yeah i dont see how making it cost something makes the game better

[remote glacier]

analogous, yes

[simple mason]

I always kind of questioned the "freedom" argument against Prisms, mild restrictions are often more interesting than just setting it to the "correct" number, but we'll see

[runic siren]

DE oldguard gonna DE oldguard tbh

[paper cargo]

I already played in a way where i set up a loadout for each of the prisms so technically this doesnt affect me much but i still dont see how this change is helpful/good for the game or anyone. Just gonna leave this at that.

[golden lagoon]

i agree with this. there needs to be some kind of friction

[hidden fractal]

You're missing the point. Testing a single loadout and tweaking it to find the optimal spread is gonna cost the resource over and over for people who test things like damage output, etc.

[gray torrent]

No plans for now to make the Wyld obtainable free r?

[random wing]

not yet but should be at some point

[hidden fractal]

And loadouts aren't infinite. Loadout slots are a thing so that's limited too.

[nova hamlet]

Honestly yeah after prisms came it felt better to build

[simple mason]

You can see weapon numbers in the UI before committing to the Lith

[pearl beacon]

Oh no that's fair, yeah I see what you mean, trying to actually find that balance you want may be restrictive a bit... but idk I need to try it out first

[dapper gorge]

I guess I will probably want to use more load outs as well

[hexed sequoia]

Well, new update, new bugs xD

[dapper gorge]

Because I've definitely just swapped weapons and virtues on the fly

[paper cargo]

Loadout slots were just convenience before the change now they are kind of a mandatory thing to use

[hidden fractal]

Also the prisms were basically the biggest reason to grind the Faction reputation, other than Ode Tempest. They just removed one of the bigger reasons to faction rep grind.

[grave granite]

update is on

[simple mason]

I don't think the resource is going to matter much, realistically you're rarely going to need to change and most tweaks can be done with Pact Virtues and Talismans, I'm more questioning if it'll lead to more interesting buildcraft

But let's go find out

[sturdy geyser]

Which is what they want

[ruby flare]

guys how many players would u say soulframe currently has?

[dapper gorge]

Sometimes several times in a session as I'm swapping between leveling pacts/weapons/bosses

[simple mason]

At least 12

[sturdy geyser]

Few hundred

[pliant lintel]

yup, like, unless all options are truly equal and valid, you essentially jsut get less choice because there is only a few good options and the rest is jsut decoration it's like my favorite metaphor. it's better to have 9 good chipts flavor rather than 50, but only 6 of them are actually good and the others are jsut variant of wet sock and gravel

[winter steeple]

Nah, probably like 8

[frosty ore]

the great bonking

begins!

[runic siren]

wait, they're making armor take up slots now?

[remote glacier]

so new areas in the map?

[obtuse rampart]

yes. but more slots overall

[remote glacier]

can we access that isolated island

[slender smelt]

Still waiting old color palettes to be made into full palettes 😔 Cannot fashion without losing old colors.

[misty drift]

with having to use a resource for it per loadout i feel like if you want to be flexible you would need a bunch of loadouts for the same pact instead and i would rather just be able to set it myself for no resource

[runic siren]

that's genuinely bonkers, why would you ever bother making anything other than the best sets for each stat atp

[obtuse rampart]

fashion

[hushed rampart]

alright here I go

[charred mica]

Fashion frame is the true end game

[grave granite]

there is now a camel offering bonuses in the overworld

[analog plover]

-# •”Fixed controllers not being able to scroll through a list in the Arsenal if the cursor overlaps with an item grid.”

thank you DE for this fix

[sturdy niche]

I’ve been waiting for that fix

[still crown]

capitalism camel?

[dapper gorge]

[remote glacier]

speaking of builds, is a courage-leaning setup kinda the meta atm?

[spiral crag]

Finally we can control the virtues!

[fast ice]

i kinda dont like how it uses a resource

[misty drift]

i hope this gets fixed so that it accounts for unusable points

[sick dagger]

U know it's cursed when u see swimming in soulframe

i hope it's done right XD

[grave granite]

yes bit for free, the bonus lasts a while aslo

[sturdy geyser]

Anyone else has all loadouts set to the same virtue even tho they had different ones?

[abstract cove]

swimming is hella slow

[gaunt oracle]

My fps doubled 🔥🔥🔥

[spiral crag]

i got jumpscared by another player immediately

[analog plover]

negl this was what my thought was going to be when DE mention swapping to a triqueta for virtues

-# i expect my check by mail DE lol jk… unless…

[upbeat sierra]

I really do not like the fact i need a consumable to change my stats...

[still crown]

founders armor?

[abstract cove]

i'm free now, i guess

[jovial quarry]

I think that's orlick/wazzard set

[spiral crag]

from what steve said it seems its obtainable through quests

[finite gust]

the helm is wyld tethren

[nova spade]

Manual stat allocation is back?

[boreal forge]

A finger in the monkey's paw curls huh

[modern crest]

Stat changes now cost resources. Good Job Minmaxers, you got their attention.

[spiral crag]

Wazzard set and founders helmet

[finite gust]

sieges drop it, apparently

[misty drift]

idk how it is on controller but getting the virtue slider exactly where you want is really annoying

[austere mist]

What are Tempers? The patch notes mentioned them once but dont explain what they are

[upbeat sierra]

Doesn't really matter, means im forced to farm to make a change when before i could change it whenever i want lol

[finite gust]

also this fashion is awesome, just on a tangent

[dim ore]

Greetings, I've a quick question. Been completely out of the loop on this game's development, so I'd like to ask how far along is it and how is it going?

[boreal forge]

I was JUST complaining about virtue points tied to mastery, now we gotta do a consumable for them

[finite gust]

still in pre-alpha

[cold scroll]

ran into this straight away

[boreal forge]

The obelisk...

[pearl beacon]

I think it's their term for the randomised traits on weapons, like described here

[dim ore]

is there a roadmap or anything?

[pearl beacon]

what in the Anunnaki

[boreal forge]

So basically dropped/crafted weapons now will come with some random stats huh

[random prism]

What sucks is you're not gonna have access to your weapons until you confirm a virtue change, so if you're optimizing for a weapon, say Gathannan, and want more spirit, but still want it to hit its damage cap, you're gonna have to burn the virtue resource fine tuning it.

[misty drift]

i feel like we are just back to the + & - system but now we need to consume an item and use a slider that is really precise and annoying to use

[pearl beacon]

Rather than one set roadmap, DE stream regular Devstreams where they let us know what's upcoming (they just did a mini one 10mins ago!)

[random prism]

Since it won't let you watch Gath's damage in real time.

[humble forum]

honk honk

[winter steeple]

Uhhh, why do i have like 350 arcs more than i did yesterday....

[humble forum]

take a look at that snout

[ripe rivet]

Is there a new update today?

[sturdy geyser]

Slots refund

[austere mist]

Yes, I saw that. But what are the modifiers, how do you get different weapon qualities, are they adjustable, what is the name for each quality rarity. A lot of information is missing

[sturdy geyser]

I have 200 more too

[little vapor]

I have access to soulframe, how can i invite my friend so he can have access aswell?

[boreal forge]

Man...

(⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠)

[pearl beacon]

Yeah probably something we'll learn more about for P15 either when it drops or if there's a devstream before

[boreal forge]

Pre-Alpha, Twelve, Pre-Alpha

[dim ore]

Mmh, I see. I thought it was further than pre-alpha, from how long I've known about it and heard news on it and even seen some gameplay and reviews. Good to know

[charred mica]

envoy hour at 4pm EST. From what i've heard there's drops for keys.

[humble forum]

whats wrong?

[winter steeple]

mockery weapons are from the mendicant faction apparently

[boreal forge]

Update rolled now makes Virtues more annoying to work with

[fast ice]

it wouldnt be that bad if there wasnt a currency everytime you have to change it

[austere mist]

I do think that making the adjustable stats consume an item is fine as long as it will be easy and quick to farm. I am just glad they gave control back to us, and hopefully it is not going to be a rare resource. AND hopefully they kept the attunements tied to the loadout

[humble forum]

wait there was another virtues rework?

[random prism]

Yeah I expect that cost to just get removed eventually.

[boreal forge]

Just today

[random prism]

It's fine if they just want to return to 1.0 virtues but fancy.

[grave granite]

the new death animations are so funny lmao

[random prism]

But the resource is arbitrary and obnoxious.

[boreal forge]

Wait, do you spend the resource by point?

[remote glacier]

geez ive never witness a lot of mobs in a single area like before

[boreal forge]

Like, each 1 item is 1 point?

[quasi saddle]

So what's this game about?

[merry ore]

No. Steve put it like it was a Lunar tear

[random prism]

Nah, just once per revamp.

[boreal forge]

Oh...

[random prism]

So it's just a needless extra step that wants you to go farm up 50 more occasionally.

[boreal forge]

So...it is still tied to mastery...

[random prism]

By camping Agari and hoping you don't get unlucky.

[boreal forge]

(⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠)

[random prism]

Well yeah, that'll probably always be a thing.

[boreal forge]

Man...

[random prism]

And that part isn't bad, it's just progression.

[hoary glen]

got 4 buffs on it . is that rare lol

[boreal forge]

It's very very bad

[wispy verge]

Damn I missed the stream 😔

[winter steeple]

Tame in you the tempers four...

[humble forum]

huh i cant boot soulframe up

[boreal forge]

The worst of both worlds 😔

[wispy verge]

No key for me

[random prism]

Having MR make you gradually stronger is a fine progression system.

Not many people are complaining about that at all.

[boreal forge]

It really isn't

It's very very tedious

[worn aspen]

virtue slider consumables drop from agari, siege, omen beasts, and faction bounties, literally all the current game loops

I think we'll have more than enough of it

[wooden goblet]

Oregall is back!

[random prism]

I mean, replace it with any other meaningful progression system and it'd be the same.

[wooden goblet]

[random prism]

That's just progression.

[worn aspen]

e.g., as much vasp-4 fragments y'all have

[frosty juniper]

Yayeee arcs refunded!!!!!!

I needed arcs to badly

[lilac isle]

wait what i missed the stream ?

[runic siren]

I just wish they would finally give us a tracker of the gear we've leveled or not, I genuinely cannot keep track of all these weapons anymore

[random prism]

Now my question is are the new maces added straight to inventory? Did they go back on the loot chest idea?

[worn aspen]

get little genius lol

[random prism]

Cus that sounds like yet more pressure to spend to buy more inventory.

[boreal forge]

That's oversimplifying it a lot, they can definitely come up with a better way to setup progression that isn't tied to tediously leveling up random garbage

[hoary glen]

invisible mace

[runic siren]

I am not giving a third party app my information that should be something soulframe shipped with day 1

[worn aspen]

sucks

[runic siren]

I'm sure it will come in time, but like. c'mon DE

[random prism]

Information? What information?

[merry ore]

Kind of a shadow drop. They streamed for like...I guess about an hour, but it wasn't a dev stream

[random prism]

It just hooks into the account you're using lol.

[short jacinth]

When game coming to steam

[unique ermine]

Wait the virtue stuff are.. consumeables now?

[versed raven]

apparently mockeries are deemed mendicant?

[winter steeple]

what is that?

[versed raven]

i bet it's the xp bar for your weapons

[worn aspen]

lines

[random prism]

You don't log into Little Genius, it just detects game info when you're playing Soulframe.

[misty drift]

i feel like needing a resource to adjust points is either
A: you have so many resources that you might as well make it free to do or
B: you have so little that it is unnecessary friction and annoyance for players especially for new players

[random prism]

You don't have to ever enter anything into it.

[obtuse rampart]

Oooh that’s a good guess

[remote glacier]

im confirming it

top is pact xp, bottom is wep

[versed raven]

i like the idea of letting the player just make their own virtue allocation instead of fixed ones, but this is just not great

you have joineries, moonsteel threads, and now this

[restive coyote]

careful talking about LG here, certain mods get really up in arms about it

[red axle]

huh?

[random prism]

Yeah that was my point, it's meaninglessly arbitary. It's either annoying or too plentiful to matter.

[unique ermine]

Moonsteel thread is at least permanent

[random prism]

So it's inclusion is just... unnecessary.

[merry ore]

Mom

[gray edge]

does anyone have any recommendations on what to do early on :0?

[solemn cairn]

any hints on where to look in the waters for any new encounters?

[versed raven]

yeah, but it's weird that i need to use that stuff for fashion to begin with

[agile pine]

Lowk does the new system support hoarding one of every weapon?

And armor and all?

[woeful river]

i havent played since preludes 13 has there been any moras hand buffs?

[random prism]

You'll end up spending more cus armor is gonna hog inventory but sure.

[agile pine]

Damn this sucks

[red axle]

oh the wolf gives buff

[vague topaz]

Steve, this is INSANE, you just removed an item that founders bought and the compensation is the same item that will drop F2P from sieges? Wow.

At least give some cosmetic compensation or something

[frosty juniper]

Oooo hey there

[unique ermine]

Frankly we want neither the prisms or the liths, full control was nicer.

[agile pine]

Wha? It's perfectly valid, one there is no exclusive items for them, they were added only a prelude ago and it was clear it was very easy to change?

[misty drift]

first one i got with these on them? anyone got different ones i want to know what they all are

[random prism]

The new system is essentially just the perfect control of before tbh, just in a freeform 3D slider.

The only difference is the arbitrary resource cost.

[vague topaz]

+1, full control without having to use consumable is the way to go

[misty drift]

the slider sucks as well really annoying to get exactly what you want with mouse. idk what it's like for controller

[runic siren]

tbh I think the prisms were a unique way to play around w/ the system, and they looked super cool

[winter steeple]

one mochery could kill an entire army of ode soldiers

[runic siren]

wait what

[desert shore]

Yeah I’m indifferent on the change for virtues, but we will see

[agile pine]

Oh so this is in the game now?

[unique ermine]

Prisms could have been turned into buffs instead to change up gameplay with regular full control for the points :/

[frosty juniper]

Found him randomly while roaming.

[agile pine]

How tf does it work with items already?

Like made

[stone cliff]

WTF JUST AHPPENED

[desert shore]

It’s the new weapon

[runic siren]

OH is it just a temp buff? phew, I thought they reworked the quest reward

[misty drift]

only for one weapon for now so we can test it

[stone cliff]

was this update out of nowhere?

[agile pine]

Hmm I see

[spiral crag]

They could add the consumable to make it like supercharged virtue, and let the players move the virtue around freely for speccing

[frosty juniper]

Oh yeah just select ur buff

[agile pine]

Is it pure luck? Or whatever?

Can you like reroll? At least have some level of control?

[runic siren]

rng babyyyy, hope you like grinding forever

[royal bear]

W or L patch?

[agile pine]

Is it a drop or a craft?

[misty drift]

direct drop

[runic siren]

drop so far

[agile pine]

I will cry if armor ever gets this quality system

[boreal forge]

So p15 is basically introducing random stats to weapons huh...

[agile pine]

Yeaaa..

[boreal forge]

Man...

[royal bear]

Armour taking up slots is gonna be annoying

[agile pine]

Frr

[stone cliff]

NO WAY WE GOT SLIDERS

STEVE IS COOKING

[agile pine]

Im gonna spend like 600 arcs just on inventory space rn

[random prism]

It's just virtues 1.0 but fancier.

[royal bear]

And don’t forget consumable virtues!

[random prism]

Now with a resource you consume with every change.

[stone cliff]

funny thing is Ive mentioned this before aswell

I have made drawings back in the day

[boreal forge]

This isn't looking good ...

[stone cliff]

like when prisms came

[agile pine]

Oh wait how annoying will that be with multiple loadouts?

[nocturne stream]

[stone cliff]

of what it should be witha slider (I wasnt the only one ofc)

[agile pine]

Actually the consumeable thing is disgusting and I hate it, I swap my builds around all the time

[royal bear]

Swimming is good! Except I already got everything from duelo

[stone cliff]

oh well

I prob wont play soulframe in a couple days

need to grind other games

[hoary glen]

NOO WAY

he lives

[hidden ferry]

Wait so people who got the useless armor to complete their collection get refunded less? Am I reading that right?

[haughty crater]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-nope-mmm-gif-18301824

[pliant jackal]

I get that its a game in development, but if yall were just going to cave on prisms and go back to adjustable stats, why bother with prisms in the first place

[analog plover]

yup, i am one of the few who also was expecting a triangular slider when prisms were announced

[misty drift]

i am glad we have xp bars now. i hope they make them invisible on max level weapons though it just looks odd to have two unchanging lines under your abilities

[remote glacier]

where?

[stone cliff]

question, the new weapon system as of rn only applies to the new weap right?

[winter steeple]

bit premature, guys

[agile pine]

Correct!

[stone cliff]

I even made drawings on paint to explain what I wanted lol

[hidden ferry]

Wow fun!!!! Yay🎉🎉🎉

[agile pine]

Well it is a experimental stage

[hoary glen]

near MORAY tree

[haughty crater]

probs gauging player response

[hoary mica]

Thank you for Giving us control over our stats again , W update

[versed raven]

i am deeply concerned with this kind of mechanic tbh

[red axle]

goo?

[versed raven]

if that is only through crafting, that is gonna be really annoying in the long run

[analog plover]

#envoy-gathering message

[agile pine]

Whoa

[agile pine]

That's actually really cool

[hidden ferry]

I’m glad they made inventory space more annoying, that’s sooo smart!

[agile pine]

Direct drops

[unique ermine]

. . .So what is the status of the weapons we crafted?

[stone cliff]

I cant find mine

[knotty dove]

where u get it?

[pliant jackal]

Its just... this isnt a good sign. Moving backwards like this means there isnt a solid idea of what they want from the game. They should be at the least confident about a change, not waffling on it like this

[red axle]

killed mace boss

[stone cliff]

but be free to do so @analog plover if you ahve the time

[hoary glen]

i finally understand what that symbol is

[stone cliff]

Im quickly reading the patch notes and then continue the grind lol

[agile pine]

No clue, I am just praying for a reroll system and quality yada yada

[knotty dove]

what are those 2 white lines under runes?

[royal bear]

That’s enough mr Steve, no more today. 😔

[red axle]

here

[stone cliff]

WTF

storage system

[knotty dove]

oks

[versed raven]

prisms themselves though had a problem

[stone cliff]

I will have a ton of slots LMAO

[knotty dove]

storage system is just inventory slots, no big deal

[stone cliff]

Ive bought a decent amount of them

[finite gust]

too soon to know for certain, but
patch notes mention a system having to do with 'quality' and 'tempers'

[agile pine]

Im buying like 300 slots

[unique ermine]

One of the main things that irked people with prisms was that you had to get out of your way to have different stats to make some weapons work.

[versed raven]

they were fixed attunements meaning you couldn't do as much customization and creativity build-wise like you could with the original function

[agile pine]

That did irk me ngl

[stone cliff]

from what Im understanding every slot we bought is coverted into 50 of the new ones no?

[agile pine]

Noooope

[finite gust]

my guess is, dropped weapons come with these attributes, and crafted ones can have them selected post facto

[knotty dove]

you pump those with the pact passives

[remote sable]

Hello

[versed raven]

the biggest criticism to be had with the prisms as a whole was the fact that they did it while also streamlining the attunement function for the armor and weapons at the same time

[fossil swallow]

When is the code stream

[analog plover]

#envoy-gathering message

[agile pine]

We got refunded all of those. Now it's 150 arcs for 50 more, AND armor counts

[finite gust]

presumably, rarer weapons will have access to more 'tempers'

[analog plover]

fast hands

[stone cliff]

yup

[unique ermine]

Pretty much but it did become an annoyance for people

[versed raven]

they should've done the latter first, and then see if they needed to do the former at all

[stone cliff]

you find them so quickly wth

[unique ermine]

Also it made wyld pacts so much better

[haughty crater]

am gonna give this patch a week or two to cook from the sounds of it. 🤭

[stone cliff]

even searching I dont even remember what I said back in the day to use as a search keyword lol

[analog plover]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-gif-62870316450580206

[royal bear]

And then you start minmaxing pixel placement

[knotty dove]

good thing is , u can be on "slider" mode, then go to pact, reset it, and put the stats u need, then keep sliding to have the perfect sweet spot.

[analog plover]

tbh i just search through all 813 avakot in a cauldron photos

[unique ermine]

I am mostly staying away for now since there are multiple huge mechanic changes..

In case there are some dangerous bugs

[stone cliff]

no way you lying to me

[hidden ferry]

I kinda wanna know how their brain works with some of these changes lol, like wow.

[stone cliff]

that image hasnt been used 800 times

[quasi saddle]

I can't wait to start playing this as soon as I grab a key

[analog plover]

there is alot of them lmao

[stone cliff]

exactly

[remote sable]

I'm here for the same reason aswell :D

[stone cliff]

oh well Im surprised

not expecting an update like this at all

[quasi saddle]

Apparently theres a stream in less than an hour with a key drop

[boreal forge]

Man...

[stone cliff]

guess theyve been working hard

[remote sable]

that's great!

[runic siren]

huh, it feels like they've done quite a bit of performance tweaking too?

[quasi saddle]

It took me one youtube video to fall in love woth this game

[formal flame]

wait, did the game just updated ?

[remote sable]

wait a min... "a" key drop as in singular?

[red axle]

new look for spider boss

[runic siren]

yes

[remote sable]

[runic siren]

#1439842825180155904

[formal flame]

ooooooo time to hop on

[hoary glen]

I got a xp gain buff from bromius

[winter steeple]

this... this does spark joy

[boreal forge]

I think what they're gonna do is basically make so you have to keep reforging a item to reroll the bonus stats at random

[hybrid pasture]

virtue liths are... consumeable? that's gonna be s trange...

[quasi saddle]

Nah think multiple on form of loot drops just gotta watch the stream I think

[boreal forge]

So... everything is a riven...

[tight sigil]

Cade a live ainda vai acontecer?

[remote sable]

ig that's fine

[night girder]

i'm exited for the 0.5 update but imma probably wait a little bit just to be sure lol

[hidden ferry]

That sounds annoying

[quasi saddle]

What starter class you planning?

[hybrid pasture]

so if you ran out of lith you kidna screwd to try and get a new loadout until you go and kill agari/curtial?

[stone cliff]

if it is like this tbh I wouldnt mind it that much

[foggy sand]

Can someone help me? I've tried everything to log into my account and nothing works. After today's update, I get the message "incorrect information." I've already changed my password, uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but nothing works.

[remote sable]

I have no idea what I'm getting into

[quasi saddle]

Man you're in for a ride

[stone cliff]

personal opinion, either oscelda or tethren

[unique ermine]

With the ability to lock in some tempers perhaps

[remote sable]

[unique ermine]

Or move them between weapons

[stone cliff]

but try them out and see which one you enjoy better

[quasi saddle]

This game is really unique from what it looks like

[remote sable]

i'll pick whatever looks cool

[red axle]

how the hell you have 21 21

[stone cliff]

I guess that sounds good

[quasi saddle]

Ima go for the Archer starter

[remote sable]

archer sounds tempting

[stone cliff]

just saying it bc Ive known some ppl that grew bored of the game bc they started wrong

[cold blaze]

So where does one apply these upgrades

[winter steeple]

so, selling runes/totems is broken

[stone cliff]

I personaly hate playing sirin (archer starter), bows can be cool and stuff but the pact isnt

[winter steeple]

just doesnt work

[quasi saddle]

And it's the safe option til you understand the game

[remote sable]

dw, the hours i sunk into warframe has made me ready for anything

[runic siren]

by the way, you actually have to pick up the mace with interact when it drops

[stone cliff]

and it will take you some time to get another pact

[stone cliff]

which is your most hated warframe to use

[remote sable]

loki

[stone cliff]

to me its like loki/rev

[dim wave]

rebalancing being a resouce is the single worst decision this game has ever made, i'm sorry, what?

[stone cliff]

yeah sirin is loki basically

[remote sable]

twin ❤️

[formal flame]

oh wait, we can swim now ?

[quasi saddle]

Oh no

[stone cliff]

in my eyes sirin is like loki in warframe

[frosty juniper]

Pink rhino envoy version 💀

[woeful river]

has moras hand been buffed? i havent played since preludes 11 idk anything

[stone cliff]

its so boring and underperforming lol

[spiral crag]

The number in the corner is meant to be how many i still have open, right?

[oblique pawn]

A bit?

It's decent atm

[quasi saddle]

Is there a class that's good with swords

[gusty nexus]

yup

[oblique pawn]

Believe so, yes

[quasi saddle]

That's my jam

[hybrid pasture]

🔥

[stone cliff]

you have 1 stun ability which is okay I guess, second ability doesnt work (should be an aggro clone) and 3rd ability is invisibility but you move super slow and when you atk you leave invis

[dim wave]

a couple

[oblique pawn]

Courage is a requirement for most swords

[woeful river]

how do you get the duelo pact?

[remote sable]

ig i'll go with oscelda

[quasi saddle]

Thats the sword starter isn't it?

[manic sonnet]

do we need to get rid of the mace to get another with different stats?

[hybrid pasture]

mora's hand is quite good now, only problem remaining is just very hard to tank in very high level against bosses unless you get a lot of smites from ember to heal

[stone cliff]

you have a piclpocket passive for extra loot (similar to ivara) but it isnt that great in this game so far imo

most drops are from events

or most hard drops are from events which makes the ability not work lol

[woeful river]

good to know its actually viable now since last time i used it it was doing like no damage to anything

[paper cargo]

outdated stuff lol

[surreal basalt]

Pacts dont affect specific weapon classes like that

[hybrid pasture]

it now shreds mobs and does quite decent damage to agaris if you headshot with the fireball

[stone cliff]

what does the flag mean?

[spiral crag]

oh people are gonna be very very pissed with the new storage rework

[stone cliff]

its the free bundle thing?

[quasi saddle]

Thats good to know

[hybrid pasture]

they did converge and refund arcs

[stone cliff]

Im confused

[woeful river]

are the founders pact weapons still good? specifically the paragon greatsword

[cold blaze]

Ode now have drop pods

[stone cliff]

oh I got 500 arcs

[surreal basalt]

Used a bow while levelling up tethren(which is the courage/meele starter pact)

[spiral crag]

150 for 50 slots doesnt feel bad tbh

[quasi saddle]

Oh nice

[stone cliff]

imo it feels bad bc there no smaller amounts

[frosty juniper]

Yaye "swimming"

[quasi saddle]

Good to know weapons ain't restricted

[spiral crag]

i noticed i got a lot back

[hybrid pasture]

I do hop there can be slectable crosshairs.. would like to have a circle cuz I keep losing track of it due to the new camera moving a lot

[woeful river]

wtf where did verminia go

[restive hornet]

oh man virtue liths? a consumable to tune your build? sounds really bad and annoying

[runic siren]

huh, interesting. I thought they would all share the same level

[manic sonnet]

can you have 2 at the same time?

[frosty juniper]

What are those icons ?

[surreal basalt]

Yup, but for now we can make do with loadouts i guess

[oblique pawn]

Perks

The mace is using the upcoming loot changes

[hybrid pasture]

its a slider, so better than the previous prisms system for fine tuning, but being consumable.. eh

[runic siren]

well, I do right now, so I have to imagine you can get as many as you have slots

[oblique pawn]

And drop with RNG perks

[winter steeple]

im just that fast i guess

[somber bear]

Oh my god, the new weapon system is AWESOME, I love this, please make all weapons droppable 🙏

[manic sonnet]

wicked

[cold blaze]

What is this?

[stone cliff]

ake this leave

[runic siren]

hope you like Destiny the game

[oblique pawn]

That's apparently the plan!

[paper cargo]

also what are these about?

[frosty juniper]

Wait is this for the new weapon only ?

[runic siren]

xp bars

[runic siren]

so far, yes

[paper cargo]

oh makes sense

[frosty juniper]

Oh okay where can I find that new weapon ?

Which fort it was ?

[hybrid pasture]

perks 🔥, I guess its a way to make people keep farming something and not ending up just having nothing to do

[modern crest]

They needed somewhere to go since Bungie was an abusive relationship. This will help them adapt to their new home.

[paper cargo]

definitely need to make them only toggle on when youre receiving xp tho

[runic siren]

#1439842825180155904 big mace bannerets seem to always drop one, might be other sources

[runic siren]

it's a way to waste everyone's time

[woeful river]

is there a way to change virtue attunement on weapons? idk what it does but i want my bow to be on courage

[hybrid pasture]

soulframe have the problem of running out of content

[runic siren]

joineries, yes

[distant bane]

#envoy-hour

[sturdy geyser]

The mace isn't even in the shop huh

Interesting

[runic siren]

it's literally in alpha, you should not be playing it to that much to begin with tbh

[stone cliff]

the spirit needing 6 pips for golden has been addressed?

[hybrid pasture]

not talking about this current stage

[stone cliff]

like is it on purpose or a bug?

[winter steeple]

GOD?? IS THAT YOU

[hybrid pasture]

talking about future

[remote glacier]

your POV when Mora finally went supernova

[hybrid pasture]

its basically looter rpg system now, wait, it doesn't have crafting time right?

[woeful river]

where do i start the new fable?

[runic siren]

it only effects the new mace, which you pick up from slain enemies. no craft time, straight to inventory so long as you have a slot

[frosty juniper]

Lady deora...leave me alone!!!

[remote sable]

24h crafting time incoming?

[misty drift]

some more perks

[remote sable]

[hybrid pasture]

no, the new loot system they're testing with the mace, it seems to drop pre-built I guessing

[frosty juniper]

Oh damn...that's why they say destiny like stuff 💀

[misty drift]

it drops pre built

[iron socket]

How many inventory slots would I have if I bought a slot for every weapon and pact in the game till this update?

[quasi saddle]

Nice

[pliant lintel]

hey, quick question, is sympathy working for everyone?

[hybrid pasture]

it seems sympathy doesn't work on dead pull smites, only when the enemy is still alive

[quasi saddle]

Do we have a base like in Warframe?

[hybrid pasture]

nightfold

[quasi saddle]

Nice

[boreal forge]

Some of the bonus in the new weapon sure look like stuff that is on the skill tree huh...

They... wouldn't, right?...

[formal flame]

the perks look like the right idea

[lost terrace]

well, i think i found a keeper

[paper cargo]

ok that is... a LOT of time

[hybrid pasture]

seems like destiny's random perk system, its not too bad for a way to keep you playing

[pliant lintel]

well, that's a bug

[formal flame]

i like it, tho.... the virtue.... its hell

[boreal forge]

Please no...

[formal flame]

please yes

[hybrid pasture]

its seriously a nice idea to keep players in the loop and grind, instead of yapping about no content whenvever there's new content they just rushed over

[manic sonnet]

wheres this?

[boreal forge]

It's awful ...

[charred mica]

the og destiny loot system wasn't bad.

[ripe grotto]

Man, I've been busy babysitting my niece and just saw the 14.5 update on my phone, but couldn't really reach till she had been put to bed.... So psyched! 😄
Now I got the Surprise Stream to watch after the Dev Stream 😄

[remote glacier]

where to interact with bromius?

[charred mica]

Grindy sure but you could get some really neat perk combos

[rocky plover]

Does anyone know what this thing is? It just fell from the sky lol

[idle pivot]

I love it lol random perks is so much more interesting

[plush rose]

What's that lol

[obsidian mauve]

Someone else saw one in a different spot earlier

[remote glacier]

drop pods

[hybrid pasture]

way better than the weapon issue in wf rn, its just bunch of slots eaters and too pale

[winter steeple]

same thing just happened to me

[night girder]

triangle

[manic sonnet]

might be infamy related

[boreal forge]

Sigh

[paper cargo]

one of the new encounters

[boreal forge]

Well, sometimes games just aren't for you I guess

[rocky plover]

There it is, for later reference

[surreal basalt]

Looks at consumable respec
They totally would

[boreal forge]

Still, leaves me sad

[hybrid pasture]

the weapon still works even if you don't grind for the perfect roll bruh, they're extra bonuses that you CAN grind towards

[plush rose]

Where is ut

[rocky plover]

Does anyone know if there is a way to interact with it or gain anything from it? I see no prompt and it doesn't shine or anything

[tropic cypress]

rate my roll chat

[remote glacier]

btw it can happen anywhere. already encountered it twice while random roaming in the map

[charred mica]

Staggers for days

[paper cargo]

i found ||orengall in the south of wevetwood, not sure if she always spawns there or it may be random?||

[tropic cypress]

i cant wait for this system for every weapon

[hybrid pasture]

how does everyone already posting Orst, is it common drop?

[dim wave]

if you really wanna go way back it's Diablo 2 stuff

[tropic cypress]

very common, i already have 3

[oblique shell]

Literally just happened with me , this thing fell out of the sky, and it looks like some kind of drop pod with troops.

[charred mica]

Bonk Bonk Bonk FIGHT BACK Bonk Bonk Bonk

[dim wave]

boss only right?

[hybrid pasture]

this is the MOST important question of all, how slow does it take to sell extra dupes you dont need

[tropic cypress]

nah any enemy with the mace drops it too

[dim wave]

sweet

[rocky plover]

That looks pretty nice, should work great with Treefell

[brave shuttle]

we all know how well that went in warframe lol

[woeful river]

where do i start the new fable?

[exotic orbit]

Does someone know how to get the new mace?

[surreal basalt]

At least rivens are ignorable

[remote glacier]

im wondering where yall meet bromius or orengall outside of fables

like the screenshots ive seen here

[ripe grotto]

Let's goo! Envoy Hour! 😄

[surreal basalt]

You never have to interact with the worthless rivens if you dont want

But if they make this the base system for weapons you will have no choice

[rugged blade]

is Orst the only weapon with tempers or are we gonna have to forge all the weapons again?

[random prism]

Stuff like this will probably be BiS rolls lol, 10/10 actually.

[brave shuttle]

ah, so the helldivers are invading

[vast plinth]

orengall sometimes shows up and eats a guy if you're using the wolfpact

i havent seen bromius since the quest, just goopy versions of him 😔

[tropic cypress]

eh if theyre all just positive you could choose either to chase the god roll or just keep the base weapons

[runic siren]

https://tenor.com/view/drop-pod-warhammer40k-ultramarine-warhammer-40k-gif-16946742

[plush rose]

Didn't know that, closed the game and laying down lol

[unique viper]

so what trait/tempers do you guys have on the new weapon ?

[remote glacier]

thats just common thing. but it seems in 14.5 we can get to interact with bromius and possibly orengall after finishing the fables

possibly some new stuff added in the map

[wary mantle]

So how does getting this mace even work?

Does it just drop?

[dim wave]

kill enemies with the mace

[summer axle]

uh, I just found orengall in the wild

[vast plinth]

kill mace guys, it drops completely

[wary mantle]

Yeah ok

[remote glacier]

hmm what happen if you interact

[vast plinth]

what area should i swim to, yall?

[remote glacier]

coastline

[slow acorn]

#envoy-hour

[wary mantle]

Frankly, whether or not people dislike random perks on gear, I would really rather just not have to wait a half a day for any new something I get

[knotty dove]

3 buffs to pick, 1 is an exp buff, 2 is kick buff (useless) , 3 is virtue buff

[woeful river]

where do i start the new fable?

[wary mantle]

If there's one thing I dislike from Warframe its the timegates on top of grinds

[unique viper]

yeah from any sinecure wielding it

[knotty dove]

also, random perk gear is excelent for trading

[wary mantle]

I care a negative amount about trading in games.

[knotty dove]

i got 3 perks on my mace, the other 2 guys i was with, one got 1 perk, the other got only 2

[summer axle]

O_o

[wary mantle]

I do care a whole lot about loot

I'm a goblin at heart.

[dim wave]

Thing is there is a significant ammount of people that are willing to forgo random modifiers for a crafting timer. It's the warframe playerbase

[wary mantle]

Yes, my point is that this isn't warframe and I'd rather something different

[random prism]

I'm just sad that this stuff, at least as far as I read, is dropping straight into inventory.

[minor cosmos]

I have some early access codes that I don’t want to go to waste. Does anyone know of anyone who wants one? If you do then just DM me so I can send the code to you

[knotty dove]

i like testing and some times min maxing, i dont have the best of luck for droping what i want lol

[random prism]

They went back on the loot chest that'd allow us to peruse drops without them clogging up our limited slots.

[summer axle]

it's a longterm buff

[wary mantle]

I care not about what other people want, I'm talking about what I want

[knotty dove]

crafting will be for rerolling and creating better weps, all weps are intented to drop as "simple" weps, the better ones are crafted

[wary mantle]

That I'm damn fine with

[random prism]

Yes I know that, what I was saying is that they said there'd be a chest of some sort they drop to first

[wary mantle]

In fact I'm willing to take the timers for refinement

[random prism]

So you could pick which drops to keep and which to not.

That way they didn't instantly start clogging your limited storage slots.

[wary mantle]

But just getting the thing in the first place? Nah, I literally just put the game down in the interim

[knotty dove]

yeah, the riven inventory system, on p15

[random prism]

More important now than before with armor taking up those slots too.

[oblique pawn]

Guessing that might be a p15 addition

They did say this was a preview of the system

Hope it is at least

[surreal basalt]

This really was a rushed and not very well thought through update

[wary mantle]

Bold move, cotton.

[knotty dove]

im ok with the inventory

[random prism]

I'm ready for a kajillion maces to clog my inventory lol.

Since they're apparently a common drop.

[knotty dove]

they are lol

no idea how to make it spark tho

[oblique pawn]

At least you can sell from i ventory menu now

[knotty dove]

might be a perk

[random prism]

Did they make selling less buggy?

[oblique pawn]

Seems like it

[random prism]

At least a third of the time, selling through the camel soft locks your game.

[knotty dove]

mine electrocutes enemies, but not the wep

[random prism]

Unless they fixed that.

[meager scroll]

Will DE abandon this game like they did to wayfinder..? Was really invested in Wayfinder until DE just dipped lol (no offense to anyone lol)

[random prism]

If inventory sales still do that, that's gonna be agony.

[manic sonnet]

are there any places we can relog and spam farm maces? lol

[knotty dove]

they didnt made wayfinder lol

[surreal basalt]

DE were just consultants to wayfinder

[flint iris]

De did not develop wayfinder

[meager scroll]

But DE leaving was the reason that wayfinder stopped being a MMO-rpg right?

[surreal basalt]

No

[random prism]

Yeah DE pulled funding, right?

[knotty dove]

such a shame DE abandoned updates to bioshock 2 multiplayer

[stone cliff]

DE didnt lead the game

[random prism]

Cus they closed their publishing branch.

[meager scroll]

yh right?

[meager scroll]

aaaah

[wary mantle]

No, Wayfinder being a bad MMORPG is why it's not an MMORPG

It dragged its feet and DE couldn't handle the bleed

[stone cliff]

I dont think DE had any say in how or what was done in wayfinder but I might be wrong

[flint iris]

It's a corporate thing which had to do with publishing. Not the devs.
Plus the DE devs had nothing to do with it.

[meager scroll]

no its not a 'bad MMORPG' they jsut decided to never BE one (which was a backstab for people like me who were investing for mmorpg-wayfinder haha)

[surreal basalt]

How would that work? Fund wayfinder but also get hired as consultants

[versed raven]

oh ok so i now understand the 2 lines

[knotty dove]

Back to the 14.5

[versed raven]

the top is your pact xp, the bottom is your weapon xp

[knotty dove]

mace feels cool

not heavy enough tho

it should feel like swinging a tree log

[random prism]

They were the publisher, providing funds. After they suddenly pulled, they were left to self publish and had to massively scale back cus of the sudden loss.

[versed raven]

first image is a weapon not at max, second is a weapon at max

both having the same pact

kinda wish they'd label it like how warframe does it

[knotty dove]

yeah thats your primary and secondary weps

[versed raven]

no, it's your pact and equipped weapon

[knotty dove]

one shows your primary wep, the other line is the secondary i guess

ooooh is pact, thats why i was like, why its full

yeah, once it hits 30, it should banish

seems the obvious thing to do

[versed raven]

it should, and they should label them

[summer axle]

these seem decent

[versed raven]

i mean warframe literally hides the XP bar when a weapon is at max level, same with a frame and companion

[versed raven]

galvanic strike + full force + the one that speeds up heavy attacks

[knotty dove]

oh wth, yours are better lol

also, in spanish the ORST is called ERDROOT

[versed raven]

that would be an amazing combo

[knotty dove]

like the staff xD

[summer axle]

yeah that would be insanity

[versed raven]

welcome back, heavy attack spam

[knotty dove]

i have all of the perks saying "increases stability damage"

[random prism]

This is the combo I'm hoping for lol.

[versed raven]

no matter how hard you try, no matter how many games you make, heavy attack spam shall always return

[random prism]

Unless Galvanic Strike is just a proc chance?

Is it 100% of the time?

[versed raven]

it's like the fire one

it adds the damage, but a chance to proc

similar to elemental damage in warframe

[random prism]

Ah, then I'd just want the generic + stagger.

+stagger, +stagger and damage on heavies, +heavy speed.

[versed raven]

for me, it'd be fire + the other 2

[random prism]

Maximum bonk. I'd like the consistency more.

[summer axle]

yeah pretty happy with this xD

[random prism]

That and with Grace's crit multi being cracked right now, the more finishers the better.

[summer axle]

seems to be the only way to tailor them is just get new copies of the wep

as least we can easily sell crap ones now

[versed raven]

i noticed they remodeled the preview mannequin

[knotty dove]

all my perks were of the same color tho

not multicolored, all kinda light blue grey ish

[dry vine]

mushroom maxing

[warm ibex]

Well, time to leave the patch a couple of weeks to fix things

[unique viper]

what is that ?

[summer axle]

kk so I'm thinking the voltaic damage is just passively added, since the one with the voltaic damage does more by default look:

[summer axle]

you can now find orengall out and about it seems

she gives you passive temp buffs

[warm ibex]

[unique viper]

does she appear randomly ?

[summer axle]

I have no clue, I found her in the wilderness xD

[unique viper]

ok nice

[green bridge]

I found her right in front of a Glade entrance

[formal flame]

waddap, anyone got a good spot to farm the mace?

[versed raven]

so where do we get this new mace?

[summer axle]

nvm

I think damage is just random

[quasi saddle]

is it worth downloading the game before I have the key?

[summer axle]

yeah cause then you can just play it without downloading lol

[versed raven]

i think someone posted a pic of Bromius

seems you can find all 3 out in the wild now

[summer axle]

oooh

that's sick 😄

[quasi saddle]

kk

[versed raven]

i thought you had to have a key to access the download

[tender plinth]

animation canceling the first attack by blocking allows for a quite funny looking bonking with the new mace

also I think its a bit faster than regular attack combo

[solemn cairn]

did they change impdth at all?

[versed raven]

speaking of the devil

[summer axle]

nice xD

[versed raven]

seems garren's is this

[wraith arch]

the camel is also roaming the world now

[versed raven]

oooh you can get an xp boost

[rich wing]

the game has tradign now??

[quasi saddle]

nah just to play I think

[wraith arch]

did anybody zoom out fully on the map? we can move to the side a lot. that is a thick side now

[rare socket]

where? 👀

[versed raven]

interesting

[wraith arch]

near that tree

[versed raven]

random encounter

praying we get customizable weapon racks

it is just me or was this changed?

[random prism]

So it does just have random stats?

[versed raven]

that's nice

[random prism]

Damage rolls and everything?

[summer axle]

I think so, I've had 3 so far

seems smite chance damage and perks are rando

[random prism]

Eugh.

So it's just full RNG and near-perfect rolls are gonna be super marketable.

[frosty juniper]

Dude those new drop pods droped next to me 2 of them holy F it jumped scared me a lil ngl

[random prism]

Rivens, but weapons.

At their very base.

[versed raven]

welcome back riven market

[summer axle]

I hope they don't go the super rng route..

[versed raven]

dread it, run from it, riven market will arrive

[teal arrow]

Do we get extra slots from the early sign up bonus before the rework? Or are those gone too?

[random prism]

I mean, damage, smite chance, and perks?

It already is.

[versed raven]

and we probably don't know the highest value rn for the first 2

[summer axle]

well, this is a prelude, so it's not completely set in stone

but yeah, idk we'll see how this plays out

[royal bear]

😯

[versed raven]

also, while it's nice and tasteful to to the "x in x" info for smite chance, i kinda prefer a % for clarity

[sage rampart]

Damn , i wanna play this game so bad

[random prism]

It's built on the same engine, yes.

[royal bear]

Lotus engine

that's why there's a lotus on the moon

they try to silence us

[summer axle]

watch the stream, they're giving away codes just for watching as a twitch drop

[random prism]

They do that with all Soulframe streams, yes.

[tender plinth]

do we know what the potential modifiers are for the hammer?

[versed raven]

ok so the attunement rebalancing is not shared between loadouts

that's not so bad then

[rare socket]

kina seems like it was

[versed raven]

ik, it's something you wouldn't think about, and when it's changed you go "is this different? i don't remember it looking like this"

[random prism]

Whenever I want to swap my virtue I now have to swap my weapons, pact, armor, and applied cosmetics.

[runic siren]

am I crazy or are random walking patrols just way more often now

[random prism]

As all of that is saved in the loadout.

[royal bear]

We are crazy

[versed raven]

idk if they changed how the moonsteal thread stuff is per loadout

i believe that's still shared between loadouts

[tender plinth]

I just had some Oden hellpods fall on me?! cool af also I was just about to go look for the mace dude and the ode just decided to airdrop one for me :D

[random prism]

Changing loadout will change your character appearance and cosmetics.

And applied colors, just literally everything.

[versed raven]

well that's not so bad

[quasi saddle]

5 mins and I get the code for soulframe

[random prism]

I want separate cosmetic loadouts cus it's annoying to have to fiddle with everything when I just want to change my outfit.

And now I want separate virtue loadouts. For the same reason.

[versed raven]

that is true

[summer axle]

kk, damage definitely seems to be random

[versed raven]

that's not a problem in warframe and it's weird to see it be a problem in soulframe

[summer axle]

and MAYBE smite chance too

[tired coral]

How do I equip armor? I see it in my inventory but not my arsenal

[versed raven]

you'd think they'd make it be through verminia's menu

[summer axle]

it seems to be between two values, but it could be coming from perk

[reef ingot]

is it bad to think that the current/new virtue prism system is actually really cool

[random prism]

There's a perk that increases smite chance yes.

[rare socket]

👀 LOOK

[random prism]

And I think both of the 7/100s have that perk.

[meager scroll]

Quick question (just got a key); I'm guessing progress will be wiped sometime or not?

[random prism]

So it'd just be random base damage and random perks.

[summer axle]

yeah I have that on both of those

[versed raven]

it's a hell of a lot better than the prisms, as it allows full freedom while still being streamlined

[summer axle]

the smite is increased from the perks, but the damage is random yeah

[obtuse rampart]

Devs have said they don’t want to

[tender plinth]

no as it is really cool and a lot better than the previous 2 IMO
also there should not be a preoblem with having an opinion ?

[distant aspen]

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[versed raven]

the old-old one was horrible as it was just not remotely engaging

the second rendition was very limiting as it was fixed positions and you couldn't change that

[cold blaze]

You can get elemental damage on the mace

[steep fulcrum]

Just read the patch notes.
Um>
can someone tel me WHY stat allocation needs to be restricted? At all? All I really wanted was a slider instead of the single-pip adjustment. So they gave us prisms, which were ick. Now they've taken them away but we now have a consumable? When honestly, there are diminishing returns, so (last I tried) I balance points spent with stat bonuses. With a limitation like this you HAVE to know the balance and breaking points and have the maths worked out before you spend a token to make changes.

[quasi saddle]

where do I use the prelude code after getting the code

[distant aspen]

I hate how precise you have to be with the triangle slider

[versed raven]

yeah, fire and shock

[distant aspen]

Soulframe website in account settings

[steep fulcrum]

wait, it's not just three sliders, it's a 3d coordinate thingie?

[cold blaze]

I need Bayor's sword and drip with the ability to drop these rolls

[quasi saddle]

kk

[distant aspen]

It's a nightmare is what it is

[versed raven]

i guess they have plans to make a lot of these weapons have pre-crafted drops

would be an interesting thing

[lapis wraith]

The prelude invite is like a founder pack?

[random prism]

Are these all from one person?

[steep fulcrum]

okay. Well... It seems odd to say 'at least it's not just me'. It's good, because I don't feel like I'm crazy. It's bad because that means other people are also unhappy.

[random prism]

It's not the damage on the right that's dif, it's the scaling bonus on the left.

[summer axle]

these are all mine

I've been farming them to test stuff out

[random prism]

So the... scaling is different?

[woeful river]

how do i don the duelo ribbon?

[random prism]

scratches head

[summer axle]

either the scaling or the base damage is different

though I don't think it's the scaling, since scaling prior to this version and for every other weapon is set based on the pips

so I assume it's base damage

[random prism]

If you subtract the left number from all of them, the number comes out to the same true base.

So the base is the same, but it has variable scaling.

[random prism]

Which is even worse as it's a nightmare to track, any comparison will need to be with the exact same virtue layout.

[tender plinth]

with the pre built weapons with random stats I just realisede that we now have a really good use for once and twice blessed joineries

you put the 1-2x bless on the weapon till you get the "god roll" and then you put the 3x bless on

[rotund patrol]

Base dmg is 63 for normal and 126 for heavy. The scaling is variable even tho it always shows 2 courage pips (notches?)

[woeful river]

is the odiac stil good?

[versed raven]

now what does it mean by arcanic damage?

[fallow totem]

yooo where can i ask for help about the download speed

[tender plinth]

I use it fort utility and since I dont have any other secondaries w def rune so it is there to give the second defense slot

[versed raven]

does it add magic damage to my physical damage bow?

[summer axle]

I'm stupid!!!!!!!!!!!