#envoy-gathering
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yes yes it does
makes no sense
like a 40 courage 10 grace on a 2x courage 2x grace bow does for example 200 dmg headshot
if you do 40 grace 10 courage on the same bow it does 400 dmg
its stupid lol
these were all numbers taken off my arse
just to demonstrate
Tuning will happen
I think a lot will change on p15
or at least I hope so lol
p13 imo grace was strong af but all virtues were more or less usable
now it makes no sense to run magik staff bc low dps, and makes no sense to run bows on anything except grace
staff is still somewhat strong if paired with duelo
specifically duo duello
Too bad, I'm only running staff
but theres no point to use spirit
Full spirit staff til I die 
LMAO
I mean, spirit does give a noticeable CD reduction. I can certainly feel it even with just 15.
Courage is in the iffy place right now, given that its sole advantage, more HP, is balanced out by the fact that, for some reason, current Courage armor is comparatively ass.
To both other virtues.
I was talking from a weapon standpoint mostly
Sillystaff with pure spirit, screw the courage requirement
we can still play spirit if we use a spirit melee I guess
my opinion on the virtue system is that we should have other reasons than dmg and hp scaling for the virtues.
like utility spells that need spirit to work.
because currently we have courage for health and damage, spirit for magic and grace for crit. crits IMO dont do enough other than "make number go big". spirit is practically useless as we can just re attune weapons to make them scale with courage/grace.
like, why use spirit when you can just reattune your weapon to courage and get more health and potentially even more damage out of the same weapon
well each virtue does improve its respective ability aswell 
the isue is that virtues are tied to so many things that it hinders building lol
(this opinion is/was based on my own "testing" and might be outdated)
do you also not receive rewards from tier 3 missions ending in dungeons?
passively courage buffs max hp, spirit cd reduction and grace its stealth and headshot multipliers
wdym 
yes but also some of them dont deal damage and also dont really need it either
on top of that weapons are dependant on these virtues to have dmg
and abilities scale based on those
the armor you use also scales based on your virtues
increases range and duration too not just damage
on abilities where those might actually do something*
I complete tier 3 sparrow missions ending for example with killing a banneret in the undercity, and my mission disappears from the journal and I receive no rewards

and the system would sort of balance itself out if the weapons were not re attunable
i haven't ran into that
ok
the issue is that some virtues are more worth it into building than others
grace makes weapons scale faster
yes
like every weapon has a dmg cap
its the same for the same weapon and doesnt matter which virtue you use to get there
the thing is
a weapon has this has base dmg:
100 normal atk
200 charged
the max dmg it gets is
150 normal atk
400 charged
with courage for example it takes 40 courage points
with grace it will take 25-30 points
damn
this is the annoying part
that might be quite problematic
Ok but I build courage because it is cool and I want to RP as a cool courageous knight with big swords and stuff.
but basically courage and spirit scale at 0.5 dmg per pip and grace is 0.7
smth like this
I mean yeah I wanted to build a paladin type courage spirit split but the trifecta messed my build as I wanted to put 3/4 to courage and 1/4 into spirit but we only have split virtue prisms for 50/50 builds
honestly best thing I can do is to recommend sara's latest vid
she explained the "issue" we have atm really well
I use the Wyld Teth prism for what looks like a 2/1/1 split, and I've been very happy with it.
33/15/15 virtue spread, Courage-leaning.
i think they jsut wanted to test a different formula for headshot and jsut didn't put much time into fine tuning numbers because, say it with me, it's an alpha and the goal is to throw things at the wall and see what sticks before commiting
I am going for courage mostly, second grace, last spirit.
yeah but what if I want to mag dumb courage, lil bit spirit and no grace at all?
Idk lol, there'll be more prisms in the future presumably.
I would hope so
You can also get to 12 in something even on stuff like Mora's Beast.
thats true
hopefully
No wait, 11.
but again, as the alpha players
Cus 2 + 9.
we need to be "vocal" when smth is done poorly
this is not being toxic, but show what is wrong and why to DE
Oh yeah Grace certainly needs to be adjusted, the crit scaling gets way too high, I think that is well-known by now.
But it's less the result of a mistake and more just fine tuning needed.
grace needs tune down, bestone and fellust need to be additive
I mean fellust is in a pretty reasonable place right now I feel.
Fellust should not allow me to explode all 3 conductors at once in a single rune swing
bestone and fellust being multiplicative and in the middle of the dmg formula makes dmg numbers go kaboom
Wtf you doing to do that?
40 courage igne mora
does 2-3 normal atks
Fellust the green one and a rune swing
then rune charged atk, ez 5k dmg
They explode
or more, I havent personally tried it tbh
I've tried fellust and it just didn't feel like it scaled that high, damn. Though I will say that runes should just not interact with arcanics.
but in p13 I could get my purity with 5k charged atk dmg on UI
now should be even stronger bc the rune got better
Fellust's boost and a rune's boost should be additive to base damage.
you need at least 42 courage to have access to the 7 stacks
there is different levels to that, like in this case, if it's done poorly on purspose to kinda jsut see how the system compare to the other, with big values to see all the variation, there sin't much reason to be outraged. Tho voicing our issue like that still kinda helps because, well, it shows the devs that this time they have a community that won't try to crucify them over balance
The modifer at 40 courage is like 700% on the 6th swing
with the 7 stack you go even higher than that
the dmg mult is based on stacks used I think?
unless they changed this
Hits landed.
yeah
If you miss it no go up.
Yeah you can
I guess I worded it poorly
But at that point they are already dead
how much does the duelo boost ability increase the highest virtue?
grace itself no, but it's more the mechanics using grace that needs some touch up. like, when jsut doing normal combat, grace isn't problematic
I mean, Grace is why flintlock can one-tap bosses at stupid levels, even without Duo Duelo.
[ Highest Virtue x 0.25 + Spirit x 0.1 - 1.1 ]
I assume your talking about bravada
thx
And why bow builds that hard build into grace have like double the damage of ones that don't.
The difference is massive.
no problem
Hell, even Mora's 3 can onetap at questionable levels via getting headshot damage.
On pure grace builds.
well, technicly yes, but it's more that the formula for headshots that overscale with it's virtue. fix the formula and you fix the issue
damn I took a break from p8 to p12 and all
how
Well yeah, that's what I was referencing. The crit scaling Grace gives needs to be pulled back to some degree.
they pushed an update that does that
on steam?
just load a game in and play and it will start tracking
yes
The hours I have in SF will be forever unknown, as I have not linked it to Steam and am too lazy to do so.
And I figure it'd only count hours from now anyway.
you could just use little genius
Oh, does that give playtime since before using it?
yes
Huh, neat, I'll check that in a bit I guess.
Yes. Behold.
insert all the talk about DE's 3rd party app policies and using at your own risk even if most say it's safe
oh yes im aware of the risks but im pretty sure these only do the same stuff as like aleca frame and just read data from the game rather than change anything maybe im wrong
yet alecaframe got people banned from warframe π
i know. i'm just overly annoying over language because i just want to amke sure people point out to the actual problem rather than get the wrong idea and makes things go south. Yes, i am still baffled by how people misunderstood the "using popularity to find what needs to be adjusted" when they explained the catchmoon nerf.
they do? ive never heard of that
was a long time ago
ive been using it for a while
csn you tell me how to do that i cant see any on my page should i link it or somthing
have you played it yet you need to play it for like a minute for it to start tracking
hmm ill get on for a min then
it should just be automatic
You need to have the game open when you open LG, let it sych. Then you click the little profile icon in the lower left corner.
if i understand it correctly even just having the app read thru gamedata as its technically collecting it, would be against the EULA 
feel free to correct me tho
LG?
I thought you were asking how to get the little genious app to show your geme time.
no they are asking about steam
Oh.
I just go by their 3rd party policy that outright says that so long as an app does not alter gameplay or enable an exploit, they do not care. Even if it does, such as a macro, they still don't care so long as it isn't tied to enabling an exploit or something.
there's that too yeah
all kinds of technicalities we could get into with that tho but eh 
i ain't gonna bother anyway
@sharp beacon hmm is this it?
Also I'm pretty sure this is just an unfortune false positive, as the policy does warn of, that can be solved with a support ticket.
It's like like it's a permanent ban, as it's not actually against any rule.
i might be waaaayyy off
ya
yes thats it
hmmmm now i gotta think if i should add it ornot
theres no real downside to not imo
you get steam overlay and screenshots through steam
if thats not your style you dont have to
i just turned the overlay off 
yeah that too
i hit shift + tab way too easily together
Still gotta think
buh why 
i mean sure it's another layer added to the launch process of the game but other than that
Reasons i cannot disclose
o7
Oh lmao, Vaerminia's dialogue for when she's ran away is still unvoiced apparently
Friend just got to it and was confused
yeap
Yup
Nice.
all that and we havenβt gotten to the grindy rng end game yet 
At like 500 hours myself.. This game is stangely addictive for a game with so little actual content π
Is pretty fun.
I've been playing for 2 weeks now
Mmm, more cogah cola.
Mannn I wanna play
Cogah actually probably tastes awful.
What if the sap is sweet
But poopy corpse mushroom
I mean it's just sap and mushroom.
Mushrooms that grow from corpses do not taste like corpses, that's not how that works.
It might taste a bit strong but I don't see it necessarily being revolting or anything.
Yeah sap needs to be reduced by like 40 times to hit the sweetness of syrup.
Lore wise its a source of magick that corrupts the mind and takes over your body if you consume too much
So cocaine
Well yeah but that says nothing about the taste lmao.
Do not overdose on cogah cola.
Get... uh, spirit diabetes.
I am built different
You turn into mushroom too if you eat too much
Me when I run out of wevetwood sap
I usually pick up new supplies while slaying the Four Horsemen of Wevetwood
I should probably go farm more
i need to drink one later
I need to stop myself from playing, so there's actually content to engage with when the game comes out π
But I tell myself that every prelude, and fail miserably
Honestly I expect there to be at least some content leap from the end of preludes to the beginning of live, or 1.0 or whatev.
Considering that would involve releasing the first version of a full game while we're here to test the bare minimum.
Yea, hopefully they'll keep us contained to the Tutorial island for testing, even as they start working on the rest of the world π
from what i've heard they've already started working on another island a while back 
Tarda mucho en llegar la invitacion para poder jugar ?
english only here 
which make sense, since midrath is already getting quite dense
mmmm yesn't on the denseness
But that's way off in the future, honestly don't expect we'll see a Public release / end to preludes before 2028 π
Does it take a long time for the invitation to arrive in order to be able to play?
It's a random raffle every wednesday, assuming you've made a Soulframe account.
But there's a stream on the 12th you can watch for half an hour to get a code right away.
So long as you link said account to your twitch.
The precise time of that stream is listed in events.
i just hope we get some content scaling for that tho. only being able to use a fraction of the island to have fun isn't great for testing
@random prism oki doki ty
PSA: Remember to shove some ode into the woodchippers.
Another PSA: Remember to take some time out of shoving ode into the woodchippers to pet your pup.
PSA: Ichor ain't gonna spread itself, join the war effort! Lord Synod wants you!
he somehow looks like he's resting.. exhausted but not ungraceful.. weirdly photogenic positions lol
PSA: I want big puppy back
That sounds like ode sympathizer talk... You know what we do to ode sympathizers in these parts?
Preludes is just the name for pre alpha, yeah? We'd probably have beta first where they focus on content addition as a primary factor
yeh
Beta is mainly for bugs, alpha is mainly for content
Alpha is mainly for feature and core system development.
Alpha is for features, beta is bugs and content fleshing out.
Beta is mainly for content development and testing.
I just go by what the devs say the game is.
Keep in mind that what usually gets launched as a Beta Test is usually at the end of the Beta phase.
So most content will be in.
But, since DE is doing their entire development pipeline live, we'll likely be there for early beta development which is the content flood.
That is a point.
which should happen "soon" considering that they seem to be getting close to getting all the core ystems in
"soon" being maybe 2-3 years.
waaay sooner than that
I'd be surprised if it left pre-alpha before next year. I would also be surprised if it hasn't by the end of next year.
Cite your sources.
Well Steve said he'd want the game to be in steam by the end of this year
this yeah, clearly not, but by the end of next year? mostl likely, yeah
So I'm guessing it'd be in beta by then
Is this dude a bot?
can't be
cite yours first, you're the one that made the initial claim, so you must be knowledgeable
Wdym?
sarcasm
"what have I been busy with today" is that a typo lol
The people more knowlegable than me that've been floating 2-3 years as the best guestimate.
We texted before but lowkey I feel like it's an ai bot
who?
What I don't understand is that bots usually don't have spelling mistakes
That could easily just be done with a bank of generic messages and randomly choosing from the list.
Include phrases that sound slightly less bot-like.
Go and do a search. I'm not good at remembering names. Esepecially when I haven't slept in 24 hours.
You convinced me!
I blocked them
at the end of last year Steve and Geoff were saying that they're hoping for something like 2-3/3-4 years if all goes well 
nah dude, burden of proof is on you.
for pre alpha or until full release?
full
Yeah that makes more sense.
sounds about right
Even if they weren't a bot they'd be acting like an ultracreep lmao.
So that's the right decision either way.
May be bot, may be weirdo, block either way.
no way they would still be figuring out core systems in two years
Ye you probably need AI to remember for you
or if you wanna have some fun, do a lil bit of trolling
Eew. No.
The only thing AI's good for is being something to make fun of for being overly hyped.
what did i miss
Oh, is there no game VC?
well there is ingame 
but yeah not here on the discord nor will there ever be
btw i was thinking of drinking that cola
maybe i should try test my oscelda
Everything you weren't here for.
true true,
I did nothing
No worries, I may have done nothing a little myself π
its not our fault Fenn Jotar was really really sad and didnt wanna hang out with us for the latter half of Dermak

Well, you're not goinna run outta harmony for some time...
What are the names of the runes for bow?
I would assume 981k harmony is enough
Alca's Breath and the Torrent
alcas breath and uhh i dont even have the other one
You'd think... But upgrading all the runes and 3 of each totem can really drain harmony...
well I dont plan to do 3 of every totem at least for right now
Oh ok so I'm just forced to use alcas on axle
You need like 600k to upgrade one of each rune and totem to max π
ive already got all but 3 of the runes done
wasn't like 930k ish?
you can get access via founder packs yeah
I'd advise that people get free access via the codes/invites first, then spend money on founders packs if they feel they like the game well enough.
if my homie got invited does he get codes?
if he got invited via one of the weekly invites, yes
If he got invited via email from DE, then yes.
where would he find them?
In his email.
either in the same email or in his account management on the website
it says he should have one but there is none
on the account management but he got invited he didnt buy it
Hey guys. Trying to install for the first time. Could someone tell me what I'm looking for? The installer takes me to a file directory.
i selected the first folder it showed me and that worked
the file explorer is for selecting the installation location for the game. i'd suggest some other place than the default
It's asking you where to install to.
The codes from being invited are sent as an email only
They do not appear in the account management page
Ah okay, that looks like it worked for me. Thanks!
You're looking for wherever you want to install it lol.
You can make a new folder and shove it in there.
Oh I see.
Literally wherever you want.
@oblique pawn oops i wrote in wrong chat, he got the email for invite but no codes
I would not recommend putting it somewhere something else already exists.
Additionally, if your friend got invited last July, it's likely they were part of the tennocon wave, which would not include codes
Or in a folder that contains other folders.
I gotta take care of some RL stuff. Try not to burn down the discord without getting high-quality video...
So when is next Flinglebert?
Please wait a little
I've had this happen when selling stuff sometimes, if it persists for more than like a minute I'd just close SF and relaunch.
It's likely a soft lock of some sort.
test
Is the log in problem still going on ?
Oooh, you got your lightsaber π₯³
The Padawan becomes a Jedi Master π
well.. ok.. odd thing to complain about.. 
Don't think they were complaining...XD
i was goofing arround in night fold and thought if i can drink potions or not
i choose to believe otherwise π
and turns out i can chug tha cogah cola
also cogah gruul needs help the normal one would land 50 hits on me the cogah one didnt land a single hit
i mean ruthos
Lol, yeah, even at lvl 200+ they till get one shot by a lot of things. Satisfying, but poinless haha
How do i switch factions?
for the first time wear their talisman
then you can just switch whenver you want
ig :3
you do not have to do that just own them and walk in and ask to join
Oh so i will need the special item to forge the talisman r?
ouhhhhhhhhh
tyty
btw anyone read gokurakugai
man how can i sell my extra runes if i dont have any weapons of that type to get to the quip menu
press compendium in the rune selection menu
I jsut realized something. with how it feel, with how people talk about it, the "grace meta" rn is really jsut the argon scope craze again. "oh! if you don't go full grace you lose so much damage!!1" only if you focus only on headshots, which not everyone is.
Hi everyone! quick question: has anyone managed to complete the soot quests in the Rovgot dungeon?
as in get all the histories from there? yeah people have
I can't find any more after 3 in a row, bruh...
I must have done it 50 times.
try entering the dungeon through the exit, and relog every time you find a mote 
well i use staves grace is useless onme 
I do not sneak attack
But finishers tho, never thought much about it
and James disappeared like everyone else i told to try this method, iβm not even sure it works, no-one say it did or didnβt 
It works, but then the system detects that they know too much, and they're never seen again.
Also when I tried entering the exit it just wouldn't open for me.
anyone have an extra key?
Nobody reads the rules.
if you have left through it recently it wonβt open, or maybe they have fixed it in the latest fix
And spamming it across 3 channels is certainly a look.
Now four lmao.
CALL THE COPS
-# mods
<@&1154466146741932193> Honestly I normally wouldn't but spamming it across four chats, several of which are obviously unrelated, is obnoxious.

Lmao, I apologize.
Chief, please see the pinned channel message and don't spam.
It's not an event, it just exists.
Though I'd google the pattern of gems you have to hit, given that it's a community puzzle not meant to be solved alone.
Saralovesarchery has a vid on it.
For context, if you didn't know, circade's room as like, 9 gems here and there, and you have to hit them in a specific order. There is a code available, but each gem has a symbol on it, and you only know what that symbol means from something circade leaves behind on death iirc? And each player only gets one at random.
And the one you get is going to always be the one you get every time, each player just gets one.
Logic states that you'd need at least 7 other people to solve it, assuming everyone gets a unique roll and you use process of elimation for the last symbol.
So yeah, it's better to just look it up at this point, lol.
It is an event, just not a seasonal one
DE never really clarified what they mean by the term event when they called Festival of the Circade that
Ah, I was just assuming it's a thing that was added and will always be there.
I think they might've been referring to the kind of community puzzle specifically, which technically ended once solved? But yeah
So I was just treating it like another update.
Yeah I assume so too! It's just they choose to describe it as an event in their own words
May have just been using event more generically to mean a singular happening or big thing that you can do.
Rolls off the tongue better than 'we added a new puzzle' I suppose.
Though that's just my guess.
I'm not sure if they've used the word event to describe any of the seasonal stuff actually.
As far as I remember, thawtide was just called thawtide.
But my memory is also selectively ass.
still opens, probably you have exited through it recently, you can't leave and enter it again immediately like the entrance, you need to reload the area first, like relog or entering and leaving a dungeon, or going far away
Ah, understandable.
guys, can king spawn on south east throne?
Nope.
π
Throne is unused.
can i take it home then?
I wish lol.
good starter talisman while you grind out the betterer ones
https://wiki.avakot.org/Triune_Talisman it gives +3 in each virtue
Forged in the wake of the death of The Circade. In the year 639, when at last his body ceased to rise, The Circade was sealed 'way by command of the True Heir Jotar. The Elder Aithbhreac bound the three souls of The Circade to rest within the Triune Talisman. As long as these three Pendants remain intertwined, may his souls remain bound till end...
I just wear triune all the time 
ok then
curse you drackore!!!!
-# jk 
might be outdated, when's it from? if you want the latest info you can always check the wiki since it's updated straight after each preludes
10 months ago
yeaaaaah, id say thats a bit dated
still useful for all the other info though, like how to get the armor and the individual pieces of the talisman
I wear it whenever I'm building a new pact and levelling diff virtue weapons, I love the puzzle to get it
I know it's the same stats as a the paragon one but I EARNED the triune one, it feels better to wear it
yeah 100% also I hate the crazy vfx on paragon π sometimes it's a bit overblown
yeah xD don't get me wrong it's kinda cool but sometimes the rgb floaty orbs don't fit the aesthetic I'm going for lol
Is there a place to figure out builds so i know what to farm until i move to another weapon? Right now using The Alder staff
Not reliably. Some content creators on YouTube have good information, but unless it's recent to the newest patches, might give you some out of date info. Atm the best way is probably just to ask in here (Gameplay Discussion) and see what the consensus is. You will get varying opinions as a lot of people are very...passionately partial to what they like haha, and aren't always unbiased about what's objectively "better." In the end, there's only a few options that are the "best" anyways, but most things are perfectly viable.
hey can i ask something about a founders pack?
Of course!
go ahead π
im about to buy one but i dont know how it would work afterwards can you explain what to do
When you buy it, your account is immediately updated to reflect the purchased type
thats really cool so i buy it it will update to the type and i will be able to try the game out?
Yup! You'll be granted some friend codes that you can share
how does that work
If you have any buddies that want to try it out as well
They're shareable codes that you can grab from your account page on the soulframe site
Under the founders benefits section
thats cool!
Hello there, I had someone luckily send me a code just a few minutes ago!
I've been waiting on Soulframe for a bit now, and excited to try this out! :D
are the memories in the swamp glitched?
they are not spawning
in like the actual swamp or the corrupted ones?
actual swamp
have you done orlick's new questline yet?
ye
is it birdie's bog that isn't working? and is that the only place or did you try others
Hello
has daily reputation cap reset already?
Nope
nvm
in an hour
apparently they put their spawns in the most hidden spots for jus that location
Howdy. Just finishing login pre reqs
Delicious.
I get lot's of those bottles, not sure if I have as many as 12 though.
of that type, others I have more than I need
I have 19 thrice saphene and for some damn reason 74 iridis.
I don't know why I get so many more damn iridis.
I don't want these.
I have no clue what I have until I loot the same thing again
I need to grind the game more I guess
Got a few of each
Inventory lol, joineries tab.
You farmed alot when we had the ol' system π
gath farming in p8
I started late in P10 so the only old joinery I have is the single grey gold I started with.
Which was already nonfunctional but still handed out for some reason.
some of my older weapons have eldore on them still

I have extensively curated my arsenal.
im sad they removed the +3 damage off them
No point in keeping what I won't use and all that.
they should bring that back
Though I still have Duhk and Juniper cus there's no way of getting them again.
Im keeping one of everything just to have
Yea same, gotta spend that Not-Platinum on something.. Weapon Slots! Lots and Lots of weapon slots π
I am almost out of Not-Platinum so will have to get a founders pack, can not do that til the 20th.
is there timeline between these two events?
virtues prisms rouge to saphene and warrior of mora
Proof Saphene is hotter than Mora β€οΈ
I could listen to fenn jotars voicelines all day
Is there a way to get inside this?
jesus capslock
no
My b on the caps lol
future content
Fly
Also is there a way to disable the animals animation, it got tiring
nop, just a double tap on space to quick skip it
vibin, but i should be sleepin
this is a bug right?
if you should, you must go rest dear mod
may have bought another pair of IEM's a couple hours ago... past midnight is a dangerous time for my wallet, i've noticed that in the past
It been happening sometimes
shes getting better soon she wont talk about how shes worthless and whatnot
but istg it was fate this time!
supposed to arrive on 15th, same day i get paid, same day FH6 releases to preorders 
Being an envoy means having the power of a bunch of sad ghosts
At least the camel doesn't have self esteem issues
Orlick's hardly sad
Mestra isn't very sad either
Fenn was just.. melancholic af when he was still vibing in our tent as a freeloader...
this is slightly different from the drifter who has a bunch of sad half frame people
Well they both feel like failures at first?
Orengall used to just vibe... i'd welcome her back any day tho 
the king was simply waiting for his time he knew it would come
Orengall's always welcome to visit my nightfold
big puppy do a yawn
Aw yeah the old days
And maestra isn't in our nightfold yet. I assume she'll come with the combat style rework. I would like a duel feature to test stats like the simulacrum
bnuuy
Hi guys
aloo
GToD
aaaand i go sleep. it's 2:25am and i can see the sun slowly starting to light up the sky π
We'll miss you
don't miss me, i believe in you being able to hit me with whatever you're about to throw that'll knock me out
i don't have the big puppy as the quest bugged out when I was trying to finish it, no key for last pup.
yes I have not got around to finish my fables or anything
Someone post it here and I forgot when is the next soul frame live stream? I need a code lol
what is this and how to i get it
May 12th
yup
This is a faction for Kith of Kings if that's what you're asking, or are you wanting the sword?
i know who Fire King Fentanyl is
i want to know why little genius thinks i havent met him
Is there an actual way to find history motes. I'll look up, down, around corners, in corners, roam the whole area and find maybe 1 or 2. Some people said wait until night to see the glow easier but anything other than that
Find one or two and relog
They respawn/move every hour, so if you're trying to grind out Salzbrim quest you need to log
guys i think i know what animal we need to coincide with when we get the swimming update
I iffing love otters
hi
thanks
Hi
IRL Soulframe pic of the day: a freaking Spidooooooor
wolf spider i think
quick question - how many characters are you allowed to have? Because I can't choose between two pacts and want to know if I can come back later on and pick the other
Pacts are something you collect and can swap between freely, so there's no need for another character.
OH!
No pact is unobtainable.
thats so awesome, thank you <3
Also worth noting, since you can just change pacts some things like weapon skills just carry over for you if you're using same for the new pact
ooooo good to know
Weapon skills are an entirely separate system, yes, pact changes nothing about them or anything else you have equipped.
Those are all separate mechanics.
A pact is not your build, it is just a piece of it.
thank you :D
-# unless you sell orengall since for some unknown reason Avakot doesnt sell it 
it must mean something 
Welp my finals got delayed
This is everything right?
yes
Does anyone know where this is?
You're missing something, may be the rovgot ruins motes?
The cap is slightly past halfway through 18, you're slightly before halfway.
Wait the rovgot ruins motes count towards mr?
Aw MAN I thought I had it ALL DONE. 
Like all motes do, yes lol.
I thought that was some optional thing because it doesnβt even show on the map
Nah that's prob just it being a preview of the new dungeon type and thus not the best implemented right now.
Motes are motes and motes are MR.
Do they spawn in a specific room or are they random cus you need like 20
9, and randomly, and on top of this they do not spawn immediately but some time after entering for some reason, so they're not the most stable.
During my farming I entered the dungeon, waited in the first room for a few minutes, cleared it slowly, either got a mote or didn't, relogged, repeated.
It's a bit of a slog.
Incredible
Ill do that last after I level all the weapons and rank 5 all the syndicates
I have had it spawn twice in the hidden room you get to via jumping on some pipes.
In that one room with the canyon running down the middle that you get ambushed in.
I didnt even know there was a hidden room
Makes sense
Its hidden. Yeah.
In the corner next to the chain you can pull out of the muck, you can walk through the bars and jump on some pipes to get to a hidden room.
Always has 2-3 small ode chests in it.
I've found a mote in it twice.
Working on those I was just talking about weapons
Then yeah probably, it doesn't look like a big enough difference to fit a weapon or pact, by my guess.
Could always check with little genius, but I think you got it all.
Who is little genius?
Companion app by the avakot wiki people.
One of the things it can do is track what you've mastered.
John Erstroot
Something something, use third party apps at your own risk, something. It's not against any rules but technically has a tiny chance of you getting a false positive and needing to submit a ticket for them to unban you, I haven't heard of any such cases with Little Genius yet.
I just opened it once to double-check mastery and it's just sat there since, lol.
I've just been buying weapon slots so I never have to sell a weapon
for pacts, pick the easiest one first and then just get the rest as you play.
Does unlocking the dungeon entrance give u mastery xp?
You mean having it show up on your map? No, it doesn't, that's just a QoL change.
oh ok thx sir
just want this little guy from the founders packs, do i really spend 100 usd for a bird
that sword is nice too
you get literally everything in the paragon pack and the Paragon is actually a great weapon now
Was it bad before?
the joinery rework made it really good bc you can have one virtue at 5 pips and the rest at 2 each. thats really nice for the scaling and reaching max dmg for the normals and heavys
Tbh it's pretty much in the same place as it was before.
It has a little less base damage compared to Purity, but if you get a ton of smites it can perform better when optimally played.
Thats neat, but I think ill still stick with the gun
Cus of its charge up mechanic.
I mean, the only gun we have is an arcanic, Paragon is a sword.
They are not mutually exclusive.
Anything is a gun if you throw it hard enough
Just too fun hitting the wizard with the flintlock
flintlock sidearm when
i still like that idea about the bow and arrow where you throw the bow
Crossbow with bayonet, melee basic attacks and a charged bolt shot for heavy.
That would be cool
Soulframe wiki gg now officially redirects to the avakot wiki
Bless the wiki gg folks π
Avakot za cutie
im i the only struggling with the new forttress? They do alot magic dmg but i cant avoid a death
Curios will (donβt really matter) will the progress you made now carry over once the game is out? Or how would that work?
There are no more planned resets barring some incredibly unlikely catastrophe that forces it.
Your progress will transition seamlessly to beta and then to full release.
Just from one update to the next.
Ah sweet thank you

what kind of catastrophe could cause another reset? lmao like accidentally deleting all information stored on the servers?
An unfixable mistake
It can happen, but the chance is so low
Especially in today's world
Yeah anything can happen
anyone know what to do in this room?
does anything glow when you use spectral sight?
the three stones are glowing when i hold q but nothing else works on them
you can see two, thrid is behind my character
ah honestly? idk. I don't recognize the room
those look like the pedestals you put busts on? but again idk what room that is so i can't really help
Where do I get silistavf, all im getting is espardte and dewelion from s tier mirifuir, wiki says S gives silistavf/dewelion tho
Maybe i'm to early in game to use them or smth
It can drop all 3, so it's just a matter of grinding it.
Then why is espardte on A and S
Silly staff is really fun to use. I maxxed it out way too quickly T~T
i don't know about the wiki, but i'm fairly sure the last update notes that mention siege drops say that silistavf, dewelion and espadarte drop from all ranks at mirifuir
silistavf and dewelion being exclusive to S rank without espadarte in that pool was something that only happened through one hotfix, i think
That's correct, the last hotfix to touch Siege reward pools was hotfix 3 which states:
All ranks: Silistavf, Dewelion, Espadarte, Archstorm```
All wikis are community run and may not always be up to date
check patch notes for the latest info if you're unsure
is the PRLD tag still obtainable?
if you aren't already in the preludes server, i don't think so
if you are, you should just be able to set it as your tag
Can't believe this tag in my only limited edition item
my biggest flex fr
While I know a mod is online, what's the deal with Little Genius? is it "at your own risk" or is it ok to use?
yep, "at your own risk" is about right, lemme grab the link to the third party software policy...
John Erstroot
alright thank you, I will read through it
it's not a definitive answer, but if you're worried about using tools and things, that's going to be the most official response you can get
Yeah use at your own risk, but they're so nice about it
"some software can be useful or helpful to our community"
so sweet, very DE
Snoothers
DE have to be the most chill and down to earth devs I've ever meet hands down
for sure! I used to watch all the dev streams for WF when I had the time, felt like hanging with friends haha
some times I think back to when I meet Reb and she was super sweet
I would have loved to meet them in person!
Unfortunately, Tennocon is way overseas and I am not
yeah they came to Australia one time
Reb drank from a shoe and it was the best thing I ever saw /silly
lmao what a sight. What in the context of that?
I mean, it's pretty definitive. It's just 'We cannot guarantee perfection but won't police anything that is not cheating or enabling an exploit. If you get incorrectly flagged, submit a ticket and it'll be taken care of'.
So it should fly so long as it meets those critieria.
Cheat, get smote. Do not cheat, they don't care. So long as it isn't malicious in any other way either.
ok so I think it went along the lines of "Limbo rework or drink from a shoe" she of course choose the shoe
smitten? Smited? Is smote correct? π
Smitten is nowadays exclusively used to mean 'overcome with affection' and such.
So I'd just use smote, the normal past tense.
poor limbo π I hope it was a clean shoe
fair
I like how your profile picture is Avakot
It's a flower.
It's not a cabbage? π
No lmao, it's a rose.
well now i feel stupid lmao
hey guys imagine having sailjack in the game
It makes more sense when you know what the word chloranthy means. Or even that it's a word.
I find the latter to be fairly uncommon.
Top result, i dont think this is what you had in mind lmao
not definitive as in, you won't really get a firm "yes" or "no", but we're just splitting hairs
the important part is bolded in the article
Fact of the day I guess.
The more modern term is phyllody.
The roots for chloranthy vaguely come out to 'green-flowered', whereas phyllody is more 'to become leaf-like'.
But both refer to the same thing.
I have gotten this a few times lol. Though I am an avid souls gamer, it is actually coincidence.
But the usage there makes sense too, and funnily enough I basically always use that ring cus it fits the way I like to play.
I've played Soul(frame)s for a total on 1 hour in 4 15 minute bursts every year or so lmao
I'm a lil baby
is there a way to redo the steelsinger quest?
i don't think so from the journal, but you might be able to if you join someone who hasn't completed it yet
That is a good way of enjoying a bit of the game and grinding a little bit of the loot without the risk of burning out. I too have recently been slowly just playing in small windows so I can sleep better and do more stuff throughout the day
I sacrificed my work hours for soulframe >:(

how to equip rune?
there should be a button to the left of the weapon slots at the arsenal
you should also be able to right click on the weapon or use a certain button on controller
the next one is intelectual property rights
thats an ass subject man
I wanna do a Cogah run and aiming to defeat all Cogah bosses again. Is the old map guide still efficient or is there an updated Cogah efficient map run?
Like, is this still viable? It was posted during P12 but idk if its viable in the current version.
Hello guys! Have a great day! :BabyYodaSip:
The NW organ was moved up north and there is the siege of mirifuir now too. I would recommend you start at the fort of mirifuir as itβs a cogab ender if you are caught off guard
Yeah. Mirifuir is very difficult solo.
But other than that, nothing's changed right?
Multiple dungeon entrances (including dungeon agari) moved in P14, though I'm unsure of the exact number
you could maybe crossreference against soulmap (which is up to date) to see what changed, and mark those changes on your map
Oh no. Does that mean I have to explore every dungeon
Na I'm sure there will be a list/message/thread somewhere of which specifically changed in P14
might have one in the wiki discord I'll have a look
Dooo itt thank you :3
Was planning on doing a hitless Cogah run anyway like my previous P12 Hitless Cogah video on youtube :3c
Kinda sad that Madas voice lines have been shortened and changed. But i guess thos lines didnt match new vision of madas personality
True. I really like Mada's chant to summon Nimrod
can we liten to them now?
listen*
lol
Even nimrods arrival voice lines were removed and arrival animation intro
I do not know if these have been delibaret or accidental
hi
Hello
any idea of how can i play this game ?
there should be info in this pinned message: #envoy-gathering message
the upcoming stream on the 12th should also be a guaranteed way to get access if you can make it for the twitch drop
oh thank you for letting me know
best of luck π

do we know what time it starts
it should be whatever this shows up as for you:
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014350836400218
yeah that works
You can listen to all Mada quotes on https://wiki.avakot.org/Mada/Quotes - but yeah like WhiteShade said we don't really know yet if the recent removals were intentional or not
Hell yeah!!
Also i think it might be just me but Votivess from tree makes you feel bit too detached from factions. Removing start of tale faction dialogue too
Guys did they address staffs not headshotting anymore this is a little crippling
Dunno
uhhh
huh there's only one
Weird
Hi,
I just installed the game and played for one hour. It's really beautiful!
Interesting lol
just wanted to thank @tall valve for sharing being nice enough to allow me to play this game
thank you for this amazing opportunity all love and respect
Is this the max MR you can get for now or am I missing something?
yes thatβs the current max
why is fenn jotan 's pathing is so broken now
Not addressed yet sadly π
Okay someone in the wiki discord helped piece the changes together! There's a new Dermak entrance, Reaper's Glades entrance was moved to make way for the Organ move, and Gourdo now spawns in three dungeon entrances instead of just the Lake Moray one
they lower bows base scaling with courage and spirit but gets more from grace, pretty much forcing all bows to use grace, melee and magicks no longer headshot. all these are qutie bad...
where build variety go
asking for codes isn't really allowed here, sorry
but there are instructions on how to get access in this pinned message if you're interested: #envoy-gathering message
and there'll be a stream on the 12th where you can get access through the twitch drop if you can make it in time
well, asking does work, half the time it seems
Good time of day Envoys, Founders, Paragons and Stevens.
it's actually against the server rules, unfortunately
happy friday π₯³
If it works, it's because Lychee is taking their once-per-week nap
Oh its ok im sorry x.x
no worries, hopefully you get one soon
Hi π 
Good time of day
Aloo
Hello there

Hai Wagiii
Haaaai
Can someone teleport a tablefan or somethin to me
Too hot... Work aint helpin that
Oof yeah I wish... Not a fan of heat, and summer is coming on fast...
It is... 14c but the sun is blastin away
Hello guys! I just downloaded the game. Excited to see what it looks like β€οΈ
Welcome to the Soulframe family!
And will continue to blast away until almost 10pm 
Forgot to post this yesterday with the IRL Soulframe stuffβ¦
Forg
He was enjoying the rain
It's a John Erstroot birthday
Happy Birthday A John Erstroot
Mestra Carmo dropping everything but Mestra's Furbelow
Got the other armor parts like 5 times each by now
RNG do be like that sometimes
may the rng be with you
At least it's not Wazzard armor set level of objectively terrible farm
For me it was Mestra's helmet
hey wazzard aint that bad
I mean at least this could be focus farmed.
hating organs smh smh
anyway hows the weather
I beg to differ
Unfortunately bright and sunny
it was cloudy here lol but no rain as far as i can see
We had a lot of rain yesterday. Best day of work
inv me ye shall have luvk with organs
i want rain T-T
we are hitting 40C easily
and sorry for the typos i cant use keyboard
forg...
Eh it's too late
Farm sucked bad enough I bought the armor
Spent a whole week trying to get a single fragment and trying to find people to do Organs with (Who am I kidding, Recruiting chat is solely for Arena :p) and it sucked all around
That is not hooman temperatures
i am always free for organs i got the set in a night
well welcome
RNG do be like that sometimes
its 7 40 in the evening and its 32C

feels cool tbh
Nah
you dont beleive me?
I do, i just deny it regardless
anyway watched cobra kai?
Nnnope
ok, i'm actually starting to think GS might havew a bug somewhere, because i swear, their speed is so freaking inconsistant. rn i like the speed, it's fluid, but other time, i have ti because it's a slog. No other weapon is doing that to me, so i'm genuinly suspecting there might be something happening
netflix released it in like a weird way, i forgot where i was in the last season gotta try watching it all again
I know i sound crazy, and i kinda need someone to tell me if I actually am. like, it would kind of explain why it's still somehow still divisive
Oh deer
aw! I'm a park ranger so I've been posting stuff almost daily for it. That's a lil cutie!
you know what, oscielda pact can actually make for a great tank
you are crazy
that's cheating!
if they hit you they get rooted, you can heal and stagger opponents
someone sees my vision
not surprising. not the best at taking the hits, but pretty decent at recovery and support. and that passive is peak. Kinda would classify it more as "defender" for that rather than tank tho
he's on his way to a rehab center today, but it's been wild.
i forgot about the passive
yeah, defender is the word I'm looking for
Soulframe'd so hard it's a career
also, now i'm being reminded of Lily, the baby skunk i had. she was so cute, and we would have kept her if our dog would not have been jealous. she did end up as a PR manager at a wildlife zoo tho.
where are them totems at hmmmm
just out of curiosity, how does one get into doing this is a career?
avakot is your best bet
:3
tbh, i hope we kinda don't get actual tanks and more defenders for the game, Tanks would be overkill, and the games seem to be going for a lesser "divide" between roles
Mornin!
A few different ways, but there are usually postings either on the specific park's website, or government job postings. Volunteer work also puts folks on the radar
goodday
Nice day for fishing ain't it?
Good morning!
OMG YES
We get that reference
Viva la Dirt League Soulframe Series when
gosh, i wish the one pic i have of Lily wasn't with my face and my staring blue man group t-shirt
i live under a rock
Every time I see that... I still haven't finished their game yet, but it's super chill
dot mind me
Tbh a series where Viva basically uses Soulframe to discuss nature preservation would be kinda sick
You do
It would be a hell of a collab if they did
Kinda like how their Dark Souls one was about personal perseverence
go study concrete huffing boi
Im done
jk sorry
done with tests?
I need the ability to water 500 trees in soulframe please thanks
ouhh miss warframe man
OK! here's Lily! the little skunk we had. ignore the blue man group shirt
i cannot ignore the stare
I only play brawl stars now
her mom had abandonned her, and we rescued her
I can get 336 arcanes atm from descendia
she cute
why get help man
Stray cat last night
she was so soft. you touch one and you understand right away why they banned getting them operated here
jus why
Vosfor farm
bros having a feast compared to me
belly of th ebeast?
Nope, descendia
that blue man shirt caught me off guard
Floor 8 and 9 treasure room this week
7 more days to warframe
elixir, tempest, this is soulframe server, we share animal pics
Wanna see my Axolotl π
yes
no more off topic warframe, only animal pics will be tolerated
btw is it only me or does chaing pacts heal you back to full heath
We had to give him up sadly, but with him being a blue heeler he is on a farm now and has already been on TV, famous too. So im happy we gave him up, in a much better place now
changing*
i had to give mine up too
i was in fith grade man took me a while to get over her
when i ran out of health potions in cogah i ran away and change to oscelda
Our stray cat that adopted us was constantly beating him up, she does not want any other animal in the house
i think even changing weapon heals you
hwat
Even that stray cat eating near the house she was hissing at it
yeah, similar reasonw hy we had to find another home for the skunk, dog was jealous af
anyway eli hope on SF we drinking the cogha cola
No
jk
diriga eww
Im playing the bromius pact
anyway, anyone around rn that can tell me if they noticed greatsword having inconsistant attack speeds?
This the pup we had to give up
Finally!! Beaten Cogah deathless in one run π
(Yes he was chilling in my dorm)
Now how do I exit the Cogah?
Sleeb
Actually it was somewhat intentional from our understanding
They should let us end Cogah by going to sleep in the bed
Back when pacts had more stat impact, swapping pacts could kill you if you were at low health
Thats funny
Just reverse the wake up animation and you got sleep
Whoo congrats!
Now, is your totem collection complete with 3 fully upgraded copies of every totem?
I still need to get the cogah runes for Fly blades and bow
Yeah. Every animal is gold and fully upgraded π
Nice!
can i see your compendium i think im missing some
oh that makes sense
im still chasing rats
Rats can be easily found in Denmark Undercity
tried it but thnk im doing something wrong
anyway i go in slay everything and run around for rats?
yeh
guys, is there any map where to find bisculcams?
wth
okie tim e to try getting the totem for magik