indigo mesa
I need a Moveset for my Meowscarada, but idk what to use. I need Power Gem, a Dark Move, a Grass Move and idk what other Type I should have
ALL moves must be offensive, have no Recoil/Charge/Recharge, Special Category and be as close to 100% Accuracy ass possible with the highest Base Power
I do NOT need nor care for Held Items so please don't give me a set that only works with <insert item here>
Thanks
junior schoonerBOT
keen parrot
@indigo mesa are u sure u want a special moveset for it because it works better with physical
indigo mesa
<@372280967827685376> are u sure u want a special moveset for it because it work...
I need Power Gem for a Special use
keen parrot
It's signature move is literally physical and too cool
keen parrot
I need Power Gem for a Special use
Uh I might suggest something better if u tell what's the special use
indigo mesa
I found out that Meowscarada can One Shot Mega Charizard Y due to Libero and it's Base Speed, no items at all
keen parrot
Oh if u just want for the Charizard then well
indigo mesa
Or is it Protien ? hwichever it is, it changes the Type to match the type of the Move you use
keen parrot
Protean ye
indigo mesa
Oh if u just want for the Charizard then well
Not just charizard....I wnat to counter everything that I possibly can
keen parrot
Not just charizard....I wnat to counter everything that I possibly can
Well special sets only counter a very few including Charizard
Physical is the one which counters most others
indigo mesa
From what I saw, the majority of Moves were Special (at least in the "different Types" department)
keen parrot
From what I saw, the majority of Moves were Special (at least in the "different ...
U are seeing it the wrong way then
Most of its coverage and all is physical
U can't kill a dragonite with special set but physical can one shot it
indigo mesa
I also don't want to lose the access to Power Gem cause it's the only Rock Move Moewscarada learns, and it looks like it could be very useful to counter a bunch of Flying types
indigo mesa
U can't kill a dragonite with special set but physical can one shot it
Max HP EVs and Multiscale intact ?
indigo mesa
I don't see any Ice or Dragon Moves
indigo mesa
Hmmm.....Not acording to the site I'm looking at....maybe it's not updated
junior schoonerBOT
You have successfully learnt triple-axel as your slot 2 move
keen parrot
I have one hit a dialga even with meoscarada but that was crit
And it gets play rough too so dragons can't use dragon moves on you anymore
indigo mesa
that's weird....was the move added to Meowscarada during the DLC or something ?
keen parrot
No it doesn't
Triple axel has high chance of missing + chari is neutral to it and not 4x weak like dragonite
indigo mesa
okay, then which Physical Move would I need for that ? (And just Fire Type Coverage in general) ?
keen parrot
okay, then which Physical Move would I need for that ? (And just Fire Type Cover...
U can't kill a chari without power gen meowcarada unless u run an item
indigo mesa
The Ground, Rock and Water Moves are all Special (with Power Gem having the highest Power)
junior schoonerBOT
Abilities: Overgrow, protean
Types: 
, 
Egg Groups: 
Field, 
Grass
Weight: 1.0 kg
Gender Ratio: 87.5% Male, 12.5% Female
Catch rate: 45
Stats
HP: 76
Attack: 110
Defense: 70
Special Attack: 81
Special Defense: 70
Speed: 123
Available Forms:
None
Evolution Line:
➥├─Sprigatito
➥│├─Floragato (lvl 16)
➥││├─Meowscarada (lvl 36)
keen parrot
Choice band thunder punch kills i think but u specified no item so i didn't suggest that
indigo mesa
123 spd, so unless Charizard runs a +spd Nature with MAX EVs, Meowscarada can slip through with 0 EVs
keen parrot
Without item only power gem kills but then u lose to 90% others
indigo mesa
in fact, let me check that
keen parrot
123 spd, so unless Charizard runs a +spd Nature with MAX EVs, Meowscarada can sl...
Charizard literally one shots mewoscarada so u get only one chance to kill... Without item that is
So if u just want to kill a Charizard and lose to all others go ahead and run power gem lol
indigo mesa
Would I need a Nature or EVs in Sp Stk to do it ?
Cause I could keep Power Gem as my 1 Special move for that specific situation
keen parrot
Lemme run calcs
keen parrot
Ok so without any spatk EVs u got a 25% chance to ko
indigo mesa
Interesting....No HP EVs and no SP DEF EVs I assume
keen parrot
Yes
indigo mesa
How many EVs would I need to make the sp atk enough to kill ?
keen parrot
How many EVs would I need to make the sp atk enough to kill ?
Like 100%?
indigo mesa
I can put the rest into HP and ATK, and run an ATK nature
indigo mesa
<@372280967827685376>
I see....What's the EV amount I'd need if I have +Sp Atk nature ?
I'd assume that'll get the EV amount into the double digits, rather than the triple
indigo mesa
That's even better than I thought
keen parrot
But you'd lose out to speed kills which it scores otherwise unless u are not bothered about it
indigo mesa
So, a 32 Sp Atk EV with +Sp Atk nature will kill Charizard and saves me room for Atk and HP EVs
indigo mesa
But you'd lose out to speed kills which it scores otherwise unless u are not bot...
Depends....let me check some stats
keen parrot
Yes but then u lose to typical speed users which lose to meowscarada just bc of it's speed
Example greninja
You'll get one shotted by a greninja with a +speed nature ice beam
Which u otherwise kill because.u have base 123 and frog has 122
indigo mesa
Hmm.....so if I use Spd EVs instead of HP, I should keep up with Greninja unless it has +Spd nature
at which point, I assume it can't ohko ?
keen parrot
Spd means special def?
indigo mesa
Spd = Speed
Sp Def = Special Defense
keen parrot
Ok ye then u kill a ninja
indigo mesa
I noticed a flaw.....the 32 Sp Atk EVs make it impossible to max Atk and Spd EVs
Max I can get into Spd, would be 228
keen parrot
Indeed bruh u are fixed to only 6 EVs after u put max in any 2
keen parrot
U are provided with a total of 510 to put in all stats
If u put max i.e. 252 in any 2 then only 6 left
indigo mesa
338 Max Spd Stat with a Mild Nature, 32 Sp Atk and 252 Atk
keen parrot
338 Max Spd Stat with a Mild Nature, 32 Sp Atk and 252 Atk
U can compromise on atk EVs since your signature move always hits critical hit
indigo mesa
indigo mesa
U can compromise on atk EVs since your signature move always hits critical hit
Good point....and never misses
indigo mesa
indigo mesa
Also that calculator is trash use the better one i.e. this
https://calc.pokemo...
hmmm
keen parrot
Yes and u can put any mon in the versus and see
Like put the greninja on the other side and see it's speed
indigo mesa
I like what I can see
Well, those are my 3 biggest hated and that makes 3/4 moves done
Now I just need a 4th Move that'll take care of whatever else I'll need to beat
keen parrot
Well, those are my 3 biggest hated and that makes 3/4 moves done
Well i wud suggest run low kick as it kills bulky steel types which resist the other 3 (i have killed dialga and kingambit with that) or u can run knock off to remove item and 130 base power if they have something held or sucker punch for priority
indigo mesa
Well i wud suggest run low kick as it kills bulky steel types which resist the o...
I'd probably run a "No Held Items" kinda deal but outside of what I'll be doing, I'd probably have fun getting rid of those horrid items
keen parrot
I'd probably run a "No Held Items" kinda deal but outside of what I'll be doing,...
If no item then sucker/low kick is your go to
indigo mesa
There is still Foul Play, which sould be interesting
turns the Opponent's ATK stat against them
So the higher the Opponent's ATK, the more damage it does
keen parrot
Well intersting but does not do well against spatkers
indigo mesa
not sure how situational that would be.....
indigo mesa
If no item then sucker/low kick is your go to
Sucker Punch would serve as a great Killer Move, after which I can bounce back to something like Cinderace
indigo mesa
Cinderace/Meowscarada Duo actually sounds like a deadly combo
indigo mesa
Also if no low kick u lose to like 95% steel types
I'd have Fire types in my party for that. I love melting metal
indigo mesa
I do that already
XD
On top of Libero, Cinderace pretty much runs circles around the opponent
junior schoonerBOT
Ability: Protean
Exp: 0/2601
Nature: Gentle - +Special defense/-Defense
Types: ,
Egg Groups: Field, Grass
Hidden Power: Dark
Happiness: 271 - ❌
Stats 
Total
| 
HP: 157 31 | 000
Attack: 136 31 | 000
Defense: 085 31 | 000
Sp. Atk: 105 31 | 000
Sp. Def: 103 31 | 000
Speed: 149 31 | 000
IV % 100.0%
keen parrot
Nice
junior schoonerBOT
You have successfully learnt power-gem as your slot 3 move
You have successfully learnt sucker-punch as your slot 4 move
keen parrot
Meoscarada served me well in 6v6 and bo5 for a long time
junior schoonerBOT
Pokemon Caught: 14,186
Active Region: Paldea
EV Points: 1,988
Credits: 4,156,435 
Redeems: 10 
Gleam Gems: 165 
indigo mesa
Yeah, I think I have enough EV points lol
junior schoonerBOT
You have successfully added 252 EVs to the speed Stat of your Selected Pokemon!
Ability: Protean | Nature: Adamant | Types: ,
Egg Groups: Field, Grass
HP: 31 | Attack: 31 | Defense: 31
SP.A: 8 | SP.D: 31 | Speed: 31
Total IV%: 87.63
Held item : choice_scarf
Moves : Trick, Triple axel, Play rough, Flower trick
You have successfully added 32 EVs to the special attack Stat of your Selected Pokemon!
indigo mesa
interesting
keen parrot
This changes according to opponents trick was there bc some people tried stalling
junior schoonerBOT
You have successfully added 226 EVs to the attack Stat of your Selected Pokemon!
keen parrot
EVs are max hp atk with scarf ez
indigo mesa
This changes according to opponents trick was there bc some people tried stallin...
can't stall if ya dead
keen parrot
Tanked and killed a yveltal thru that
indigo mesa
That's usually my philosophy in duels. Can't do anything if it's already dead
keen parrot
Well u haven't faced a 6 stall team I think 
indigo mesa
I tend to circle around what I know is the biggest problems against my team and reserve 1-2 pokemon for that specific part of the battle
indigo mesa
Well u haven't faced a 6 stall team I think <:kekw_cry:1103684354355515492>
nope and that sounds like HELL
keen parrot
nope and that sounds like HELL
No lifers use that ye and push to top ladder
indigo mesa
indigo mesa
No doubt there was a Whimsicott there too
keen parrot
Nah whimsi is ass
indigo mesa
It's beaten me too many times
keen parrot
Unless u are in AG
indigo mesa
I feel satisfaction in nuking it
keen parrot
Well it's ass in parties
indigo mesa
good to know....It was mostly 1v1 confrontations tbh
junior schoonerBOT
indigo mesa
wrong party
junior schoonerBOT
keen parrot
Oh ye now i rmb one more it was garganacl
keen parrot
Ye
indigo mesa
Wrong one too....
spark rover
indigo mesa
maybe it was this one.....Either that or I was gonna modify the e4 one
theme is pretty much "I have no Legendries and Charizard go brrr"
Cinderace is there to scout and dance around whatever I can't beat with it, swapping out to Dragapult, Dragonite or Charizard
I do need to replace Infernape cause he's kinda just "there"
@keen parrotthank you for the Help though. I'mma figure out this new Team once I get Meowscarada to lvl 100
fallow dragon
I mean thunder punch can also KO charizard
indigo mesa
I mean thunder punch can also KO charizard
It doesn't have Fire type coverage though. Rock does
keen parrot
I mean thunder punch can also KO charizard
Only 37.5 % chance to OHKO
indigo mesa
That too lol
queen pasture