Help with red hive

[lethal epoch]

Yes I'm a red hive in midgame - I play for fun, not results, so I don't really mind what's optimal.
Close to dark scythe, I make about 300b/boost. I feel it isn't enough atm.

[echo herald]

Gifting your hive will make a huge difference

Since you'll be able to grow much larger scorching stars and get precise marks which is very important

[lethal epoch]

Yeah, takes a long time though

[echo herald]

Just macro bug runs for tickets to buy star treats

And have it gather in strawberry for example between bug kills to get more straws

[lethal epoch]

yeah

[lethal epoch]

how long would it take to get star treat with that?

[echo herald]

depends on a bunch of things

i dont really pay much attention to how many tickets i get but i'd say at least 1 star treat per week

[lethal epoch]

dang alright

[lethal epoch]

Would u say I'm close to good red hive or nah

[echo herald]

nah

[lethal epoch]

dang rlly?

should I still keep at it with red or what

[echo herald]

if you have a scorch saw then it's savable

if not then blue might be a good option

[lethal epoch]

hell nah

💀

[echo herald]

yeah solo passive red hive is gonna be long for you

[lethal epoch]

would a budget blue make more or nah? already got diamond

[echo herald]

with a pop star and some mythics probably yeah

also that passive macro income wouldnt take mats like boosting so yeah

[lethal epoch]

only issue - I have essentially no time to macro.

[echo herald]

that is gonna slow down progress a bit

but it would also slow down ur progress as a red hive so yeah

[lethal epoch]

Maybe I'll go blue for just a little bit for maybe 100t

to actually go red

[echo herald]

going blue to afford red is a good idea yeah

tho i recommend more than 100T before going back to red

[unkempt cradle]

what do you class as a boost? I use field dice +extract and oil and a few other mini things like that and make 50b if I'm lucky

and I'm a red level 17 hive (no scythe plus one of each gifted)

I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong

[warm magnet]

ur not midgame

[warm magnet]

first u need too get loaded dices, u also need too get invigorating nectar and refreshing, honey bee quest and mondo chick buff, get super smoothie if big boost or tropical drink oil and enzyme and purple potion if small. donate too the shrine purple potion so u get pepper winds. get ballon blessing if possible and when ur gonna boost use glitter wait for one min then use loaded dices until u get the field u want too boost in, too boost as red i dont rlly know so search on yt

[warm magnet]

ur using too small things too boost

field dice extract its too small

[lethal epoch]

4 max nectars, 8x winds, 4x field vlboost

Super smoothie too

[echo herald]

anything thats under 30 minutes and without winds, a 4x, smoothie and pollination is more ''grinding'' than boosting

[unkempt cradle]

ah right makes a bit more sense

but I did a pp boost with all that you said except max nectars ( I had 18ish hours on most of them) and made like 150b

[echo herald]

you have a scorch saw?

[icy aurora]

bro i got a lvl 12 red hive with 8 spicy and 4 precise and i got a scorch saw 😭 ive only spent 100b total honey on ssa

im too lucky

i only make 70/b a boost though

very close to heat treated planter

[lethal epoch]

Seriously lucky

[unkempt cradle]

no I'm assuming thats why?

i can't get it although I've spent a good 5t on it and haven't rolled it once

[echo herald]

5t isn't alot

[echo herald]

yeah you need it for red boosts

[unkempt cradle]

for me it is

[unkempt cradle]

damn that sucksl

I'm getting scythe first then I'll get it

I'm so close just need like 100b honey plus quests

[echo herald]

i mean compared to how much it costs to get a scorch saw on average

[echo herald]

that'll help

[unkempt cradle]

fair but for me 5t is like a few weeks worth

[echo herald]

I usually recommend people to macro as a blue hive after midgame before switching to red or white so they have enough honey to immediately afford a decent hive and amulets

And for red the minimum requirements you wanna have is dark scythe, a decent stat scorch saw double passive, and at least half gifted lvl 17+ hive setup with the right bees

Which should cost a couple hundred trillion

But with that and a tiny bit of support and skill you should easily be able to boost 10T+

[unkempt cradle]

wow

alright I was blue but I just wasn't making honey for some reason

like 20b and hour

so I just swapped and am making more macroing as a red somehow

[echo herald]

Then you were definitely doing something wrong as blue

[unkempt cradle]

yeah I used to make a lot but quit the game for a while

and stopped making alot for some reason

I just assumed I was making so much cuz of beesmas and I thought blue got nerfed or something

[lethal epoch]

Blue did get a minor nerf