The current state of the game is unacceptable

[pliant heart]

My p1 ray ray at 40khp easily survives a mass

[jade dagger]

Ur mas cant kill.def scalers in 1 hit anyways not like he can kill anything.

[vital girder]

In your mind mass is like broken and needs to be banned because apparently he 1 shots 3 people every s3

[jade dagger]

Prob cant even kill my non bb lily on3l 3x.hp

[valid skiff]

😂

[jade dagger]

No thats what u think i said he will kill holden

[vital girder]

You dont even play massiah lol your looking at cherry picked replays

[jade dagger]

Get me the rrplay where holden not on amber wins mas. U will never find a proper one.

[vital girder]

lol w/e you say man

[jade dagger]

But ye mas is sht cant even kill andrew i get it now sheesh many dumb whales p5 him for no reason fraud unit

[vital girder]

No i litterally said he uses double pump to kill ppl and you end up needing a near perfect comp to get stuff done

[jade dagger]

Ok you win. Mas bad unless 2x pump cant kill anyone in 1 shot

[vital girder]

when did i say mass is bad i said hes the only good cleaver because hes a threat to kill people

Its really easy to disrupt a massiah comp tho

I also never said hes not good into defense scalers my 1 statement was he doesnt 1 shot holdens the way you make it seem and even with holden theres picks to nulify that damage and potential death like celince

[fringe turret]

He doesnt want any units to be threats to t2. He must steamroll against every cleave team.

Dude go and watch the replays. Theres plently of t2 teams winning against mess. Stop being stubborn when the devs already gave u replays to watch.

[jade dagger]

Nah i want t1 units to be op

Then I invest full into spd and fk everyone with less spd than me or if they try to tank me

[vital girder]

Not saying i want t1 to be op i just want other characters like batsby yelli etc to be good in cleave i want more variety in my picks and options against different strats

Your the only one defending a 1 sided meta.

You can see me argueing against people asking to make bruisers bad i always say how that would just 180 the problem.

[jade dagger]

Its 1 sided however not as bad as u guys keep saying. Def scalers into mas is a joke

[fringe turret]

Oh god def scalars into mess again😂

Guys i saw my opp pick hoyan so im going to pick yeli as my sole dps kinda argument

[jade dagger]

That was the original argument

[vital girder]

My arguement is still there that def scalers can survive mass s3

[hearty acorn]

none of us are arguing for t1 supremacy, but for an end to t2 supremacy. it's not an either or, ideally all 3 styles are evenly matched with one style being a bit better because of recent updates, but that one style which is better should change regularly

really doesnt matter now tho, changes have been made and we need to see them to evaluate, either they fix things or they don't, I don't think many people waiting for a fix will continue to wait if this doesnt address issues

[jade dagger]

Nah I want t1 supremacy for a season and see how ppl enjoy it

[hearty acorn]

who cares what you want lol. that would be also bad. Metas should shift, or the game gets boring, and people leave

[vital girder]

Sound salty about people not agreeing with you so you just hope they hate the game in the future to be right.

[jade dagger]

Yeah dw all t1 players will be very happy and game will be saved

[vital girder]

I wouldnt be id still quit if thats the case. Just shows you didnt make the effort to understand the othersides arguements.

[jade dagger]

Not rly i get ur argument very well after convrrsing wirh you guys more u just change its scope as necessary

[vital girder]

No because your having your little fit saying we want t1 supremacy and now you want it to happen just so we can see how superior this meta is.

Im not asking for t1 to be better than t2 im asking for more characters to be a threat like massiah so we have more variety.

Maybe a unit that actually bursts high hp targets and punishes you for building hp or punishes for healing etc.

We are asking to be able to think and create strats instead of stuck to 1 team comp.

Cleave ends up flexing cc then just fully tranisitioning into cc and realizing i can put a holden or lilith here and ends up using more bruisers anyway

[jade dagger]

100% agree with more units but all ur "supporting evidence" and misinfo is too much.

anyways 1 week to see balancing ig

[vital girder]

What happens on my game and my client isnt misinfo. Everyone has different experiences because gear and rolls are a thing.

[rustic walrus]

the conversations here remain so cooked. I think its a bit delusional to say mass doesnt need a nerf, just like a few other units

[jade dagger]

@vital girder @fringe turret yeah I looked thru some replays thank god for replays
Holden sure survives mas.

[vital girder]

This works real well when the holden team picks Aya or anything to cut lol which punishes the debuffs

[jade dagger]

Im done evidence right there.

[vital girder]

You still haven't found a celince game with the holden

Thats not evidence that holden immediately dies to just mass s3 lol especially when the meta counters this

[jade dagger]

Wow ok

[vital girder]

Reaper steps counters this soo hard this isn't a realistic scenario t2 got outdrafted

[jade dagger]

Rmber this

[jade dagger]

Wtf coz every bruiser has alicorn lh amber repaer bulwark at same time ok.

[vital girder]

Yea because they can theres still no proof this holden isn't just using dps cores because it wants to beat bruisers

[jade dagger]

???? Ye so done. Bye

[vital girder]

Lol yes every mass player has massiah with this guys gear and every holden has the gear this holden has

Yes every holden is getting 1 shot by p5 massiahs lol

[jade dagger]

So mch coping y cant u even take possibility gear bout same lpl p5 mas dupes rarer too anyways ye u wont stop

[hearty acorn]

people just keep repeating anecdotal evidence, look at the rankings

[vital girder]

Im not coping im telling you what I experience on my account no amount of proof changes it. Other people seem to have a similar experience.

[hearty acorn]

I mean it really doesn't matter at this point, whatever changes they've made, they've already made, we just need to wait to find out

[jade dagger]

Ye weird experience thar is opposite to many ppl too

[vital girder]

The only ones saying mass does this is the t2 players.

[jade dagger]

Bcoz he does if u draft wrong or taken offguard

[vital girder]

Uhuh lol im drafting wrong using the litteral same comp

[jade dagger]

I dunno u nevee share replays so ye

[vital girder]

Because I dont care if you believe me.

[jade dagger]

I cant comment on ur draft or opponents draft or how game played out. Ye it doesnt matter ur mas prpbly 99% cr miss all the time

[vital girder]

Im not asking you to comment on it.

[rustic walrus]

then stop replying here a million times bro

it really looks like you care what people here think at this point

[vital girder]

Your the one commenting in a feedback post complaining that t2 bias makes people want to quit the game.

[rustic walrus]

yeah i never go around coping 'well i dont care what you think anyawy nuh uh!' what are you on about??

[vital girder]

You dont balance the game or make decisions why would I care about convincing you?

I think one of the blocked dudes is responding lol I cant see your posts my guy

[rustic walrus]

its funny when you see a conversation and one side is willing to bring evidence and videos and the other side always defaults to 'well i dont care what you think!' or 'this was MY experience, who cares what vids you present!'

[vital girder]

Oh yea your the dude trying to rage bait everyone of course I blocked u

[rustic walrus]

i think not just me, but everyone knows which side is TRYING to have a good faith argument among these 2

[jade dagger]

Ahhh i forgot after 4000+ posts. Makes sense now why the chat like this

[vital girder]

Yea your the weirdo t2 player in a feedback thread just tell people their feedback is wrong.

[jade dagger]

Y do u go straight for personal attacks lol

Ye mb for input on experince vs t1 from t2 side in here

[bleak lintel]

How exactly does reaper aya counter that opener

[vital girder]

Its not a personal attack. All you've done here is scream how wrong everyone is and how they just want their meta and yours to be bad.

I just think you actually feel that way and your not just rage baiting so I have no problem responding to you.

[jade dagger]

Ok haha calling some1 a weirdo is not a personal attack.... ye nah i do ragebait too

[thin imp]

The issue is cleave isnt better than cc if the cc player outspeed u

[vital girder]

We are playing anime gacha games were all a little weird

[vital girder]

True but this can be fixed with new characters

We could get another liliam or soft liliam not full immune

[thin imp]

I mean idk how they would, cc has enough to kill any team especially if theres no resist or healers in 1-2 turns, im currently opting to cc turn 1 players thru liliam and just giga lap her

Maybe a jackal damage nerf since it also carries hostage low dps drafts.

[vital girder]

I dunno after seeing some e7 and summoners war chars lol thet give ppl really crazy passives

Cant see a mirror force style cleaver that is reverse Veronica and just takes all her teams debuffs and puts it on enemy team?

Or does damage based on how many debuffs her teammates have

[fringe turret]

I mean u show one video and say its proof😂

If they drafted a reaper steps in there wouldve been gg for the cleave team. Cause freya wouldnt get her debuff off

I saw brokens picture of his mess not killing mess

[vital girder]

Lol listen if weirdo hurts your feels I dunno what to tell you buttercup

[thin imp]

Im pretty sure a well built messiah can tsuki messiah and one tap holden. Granted they are both p5

[jade dagger]

Cant freya s2...

[fringe turret]

Nightmare = more damage

[vital girder]

15% more

[jade dagger]

Ok....

12% no

[fringe turret]

U dont know if that holden is well built or p5 either.

[thin imp]

And holdens generally build p5 cr def def could possibly have dauntless

[jade dagger]

Ye nah lets just stop this piintless

[thin imp]

I mean atp we assume every holden is p5 no? Rgb

[vital girder]

Honestly not really

[jade dagger]

Does it hurt to get called out and badly sugar coat hehe

[thin imp]

Pre lighthouse?

[vital girder]

My holden isn't p5 I def pick him in rta im in mythic

[jade dagger]

Rin 3x def compared to holdem 2 almost ded

[rustic walrus]

i think comparing units with a different shell on them is not the same as a holden with artisan

[thin imp]

All ik is when rob sees holden he goes tsuki messiah. So people dont dare pick holden vs him early unless mess preban

[vital girder]

Well yea we aren't arguing massiah isn't good against defense lol we were just saying every p5 massiah isn't 1 shotting every holden ez

[rustic walrus]

any good holden is 3.5k def, 1 cr right side today. My p5 holden usually just dies to well built massiahs. Like duh, he is a def scalar and mass ignores defence, why are we even having this conversation

[thin imp]

I mean which is fine, messiah should be doing that

[vital girder]

He acts like mass p5 is auto 1 shotting teams

[jade dagger]

Amber as 400 hp less mote def mayb iono if 400hp my diff

[thin imp]

I find frustration against messiah in his passive ignore not his damage. Bc his passive ignore makes amber/cc his only true counter.

[vital girder]

Thats litterally the whole hill hes dying on

[rustic walrus]

i feel thats a misrepresentation given that most of the conversation has been about holden as a unit into mass. And the answer is that holden sucks into mass

[vital girder]

Damage reduction as a buff works against him

[thin imp]

Provided they dont just cc the red chiaki and ur fast enufff to cut

[vital girder]

So chiakis buff lowers mass damage same with diting

[fringe turret]

Man this week lattice rotation so good, wish we could have this every week🙏

[jade dagger]

Wolfy misrepresent a lot is ok i forgive him

[rustic walrus]

is the 'meta' for dreamscape still go left everytime?

[fringe turret]

I went right and got 7k points😂

[rustic walrus]

right side too gamba

[fringe turret]

But i see ppl in chat getting 75k man its tempting
Left side keeps giving me constant 25k

[thin imp]

U play etjeria to gamble whole game is just a crippling gambling addiction.

[rustic walrus]

man i just want to get the lattices atp

[vital girder]

Don't fall for it the gamle side is a bait you don't see the 12 failed runs b4 it

[fringe turret]

Bro i feel excitement fron gambling it aint even about the points at this point

My gambling tendencies have worsened in irl since i started playing this game

[vital girder]

Lmao just need something to feel alive god speed my friend

[rustic walrus]

i cant even roll my 4.5k matrices anymore, 0 coins left. 'Economy will be fixed in due time' my ass. Nothing has been fixed, they just pushed it back as the inventories kept filling

[jade dagger]

U shud 100% quit then

Not even ragebaiting at this point
Get out.

[rustic walrus]

its funny, we are in the thread of a person who spent 10k on the game thats just so weird to me

[jade dagger]

If he has funds and had fun... is ok ig... mayb 10k is peanuts to him

[jade dagger]

This one bad friend watch out

Oh wolfy blocked me sad no fun.

[dry hull]

i got 5k lol

[fringe turret]

Yea ur right, if i got money gambling is fine

[iron shale]

he's not one shotting team, he's one shotting defense scaler that build defense, that's his job. But the fact of the matter is that rob is a whiner and everything that's not bruiser to him is busted, but bruiser is totally fine of course. Last time he made a video on nevette when she got leaked, saying she was completely busted and that she was going to ruin the game, so i called him out on that BS, few days after the release he deleted that video when he realized nevette was trash. That dud's such a clown...

[jade dagger]

U love to miscontrue things too wow. What r u still doing here? U can't even see the difference between spending on this gacha game and your growing gambling tendencies worsening

[jade dagger]

Well apparently he's not even 1 shotting def scalers was the real argument they went for if u read the context obvs as day @iron shale

[iron shale]

yeah i'am not eighter

mass isn't one shotting anything anymore, he was scary at the start when nobody had any P5 character

but now when you pair a bloodbath character to his P5 passive ( -10% damage taken ) i don't how you're killing

[fringe turret]

Im just joking. Why do u sound so pressed when it doesnt even involve you

[jade dagger]

Replies to my msg that is unrelated to you. Says it does not involve me. Next lvl gaslight?

Ye dw this msg not abt not involving u too 🤡

[jade dagger]

U gonna join the camp that built mas can't 1 shot holden :)?

[iron shale]

i mean my mass is P1 so yeah

[vagrant helm]

Bro ur legit just a ragebaiting clown at this point😂

Well ur getting the attention u desperately long for so i guess ur successful

[jade dagger]

Always the same 3 guys haha. Nah the attention I want is from wolfy

[dire fossil]

name em

[thin imp]

I mean at the end of the day its a pvp gacha and stuff that should win, may not win when you get stat checked/dupe checked from wallet/gear. But we'll built p5 messiah will kill well built p5 holden with atk buff and thats okay because messiah def pen counters.

[jade dagger]

The 3 ppl who clowned my comment prev comment.

Imagine if one of them was an alt account from same guy 😂

[chilly pumice]

its always the clowners who has the bestest takes. they can prove a negative at 100% confidence and certainty can you believe it?

[vagrant helm]

Best*

Bestest isn't a word

Also i proven my point a month ago with picture evidence and u know it, not my problem that you are blind to people giving proof.

[chilly pumice]

love it when they take the bait

[vagrant helm]

Just giving u the attention you very much lack in real life

[chilly pumice]

didnt you block me too why do you reply?

also thanks for proving my point, yes

[fringe turret]

Damn both of u guys just cant stop replying to each other to get the last say 😂 truly two of a kind

Bet another one (cough cough... laugh) is gonna join this as well. Please prove me right like you have been doing up to now

[chilly pumice]

idk why though can you still read messages from accounts you blocked?

[iron shale]

yes you can

[trim frost]

the new lnd is bruiser again

we need t1 dps

[jade dagger]

Gg then devs listened ☠️

[iron shale]

where did you see that ?

i thought the thingy that was linked was talking about 2 new SSR character but the LD

[dapper reef]

New LD SSR and new LD SR

[graceful hornet]

That Hypertalk did not inspire confidence. The new L/D is a bruiser with advanced damage mitigation. So while, yeah, I know the new animuses are in a pipeline, it's tone deaf to try and generate hype in a dying game with powercreep of the most-talked-about problem.

[scarlet horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-ants-gif-10684512841626566565

[hollow orbit]

1 minute into the hypertalk and I'm already cracking up:

"Wow, that's great. You can really tell the dev team is working hard to bring new content to the Hyperlinkers"

🤣 🤣

[green meadow]

lmao yea the "wow sounds great" every 3 seconds from marcus kills me

incredible, new animus is a bruiser, who has auto counter taunts and is immune to debuffs after her s3, kinda speechless

and another cleanser with AOE FULL CLEANSE and accuracy down

[vital girder]

• sania buffs

[green meadow]

THIS BETTER BE A FKIN AI TYPO

[vital girder]

the games entirely catered to t2 at this point

[green meadow]

sania full cleanses too now? wtf are we doing here

[vital girder]

and turn pushes

[pliant heart]

S1 pushes whole team

If u thought that wasn't bad enough

[green meadow]

this is fucking crazy, like this is overcompensation, what on earth, multiple units now full cleansing, aoe full cleanse, what is going on, just straight nuking entire playstyles

[vital girder]

the writing was on the wall when they announced CC chars and one turned out to be a bruiser

and like i said before the new support unit will be good for bruisers bcuz the only thing u need to be a bruiser is BB and Shells

[green meadow]

that has to be a typo theres no way the new sr full team cleanses all debuffs

[dry hull]

cc/debuff op. glad we are seeing proper balance changes for the meta

[pallid canopy]

@rose hill i think they hate you

[hearty acorn]

we're not, it's still t2

new balance patch might fix some things but the 2 new units are t2 and they're upgrading sania, lol

[dry hull]

technically my bruisers are t1

my diting and plume goes first so now im the t1 player 🙂

[vital girder]

lolol trueeee

[dry hull]

t1 eating bro

[vital girder]

its just t1 bruisers LOLOL we screwed up on messaging they thought we wanted fast bruisers

[dry hull]

im fucking dead

[wanton sandal]

facts

[green meadow]

i dk man im flabbergasted here lol, how are you supposed to fight like ray/tia/new ssr + reaper aya/ling + alicorn new sr/slyph

with the buffed sania ontop, like what

[pallid canopy]

i don't think the devs have ears

[finite gulch]

We w8 for new season HAHAHAH

[dark sandal]

More like ever since cn came they are prio

[vital girder]

they are both ssrs santik is just a reason typing

[green meadow]

nah the guitar guy is sr

[vital girder]

the road map says 2 ssrs and 3 awakened units

[green meadow]

i think thats for the unit after the taunt immune to debuff one

[vital girder]

why would it say 2 then because the next banner is usually double banner with 2 non ld units

Pretty sure Santik is a SSR the leaks aritar posted also said 2 ssrs from the cn whale email

[green meadow]

i dk man, i give up

[vital girder]

lol i think him being an sr would be worse because everyone would have him maxed day 1

[hollow orbit]

There's always been a new SR with each new LD

[vital girder]

thats alot of animations for a sr

[dry hull]

he's a SSR

[rose hill]

1 of 2 checked 😭
Now only balance patch left

[thin dagger]

nop he's sr. Each time a new LD ssr is coming, a sr is adding to the game at the same time

[dry hull]

but hes red.

[pallid canopy]

still believing this company?

[vital girder]

They sent out an early email to the cn whales who spent over 4k aritar the content creator is one of them he leaked the email and it says 2 ssrs 1 ld bruiser 1 support ssr

[thin dagger]

yes indeed like sylph is blue when ray was out

[rose hill]

I mean the content addition and changes seems pretty good

[vital girder]

and have u seen an sr in this game with that high animation quality?

[dry hull]

that is true but how come on the CN post they said hes SSR and the hypertalk said 2 new SSR's at the start of next month. are you 100% sure?

[vital girder]

thats def a premium unit trying to sell prowess

[green meadow]

I mean whatever he is, Sr or ssr, hes fucking overtuned

[pallid canopy]

content addition u mean new characters? because they forgot already they need to provide story background or even new story stages

[dry hull]

i wanna try him with rahu

[dry hull]

does it need story? league of legends doesnt have story and it does just fine.

[rose hill]

I mean new awakening, shell optimization, and load out folders.
Calendar is a big plus to me. Cage rumble now only a week too.

[thin dagger]

No I don't, I'm juste naive cause they said they will slow down with the release of new animus. And we will get 2 rgb banner then 1 ld banner. Maybe they changed their pov on it

[rose hill]

And seems like there will be “Apex” summit with no impact to your ranking. So a place to test out builds

[pallid canopy]

league of legends is a multiplayer moba, this is a gacha pve pvp that stopped trying to improve, most gachas expand the first part of the story on 1.0 and so on, but i guess xd can't do that because they avoid everything that is new

[dry hull]

well these characters are in a pipeline maybe those new changes you are talking about is further down the line.

[dry hull]

im just saying pvp players dont need story to want to play.

[pallid canopy]

you say that like people been playing rta when this is another bruiser meta people would prefer cbt than more than 5 matches a day

[vital girder]

Ima be honest having more and fun pve would probably give me a reason to forgive a bad meta but a bad meta + no pve makes me want to uninstall

it doesnt even seem like they are trying to make cleave work either they just keep filling holes in t2 so it adds insult to injury

[pallid canopy]

if people keep patting xd's head they will not improve, and most of these changes are because people were critical about feedback long ago, its sad that they took this long to even add shell changes

[vital girder]

im legit only waiting for the balance notes i thought would be in the video if there arent good changes im just done

[dry hull]

technically ray, rahu, holden and tia all cleave.

[vital girder]

yea bruisers can do everything i know lol

[dry hull]

so we have good cleavers and turn 1 units but they just arent the ones you guys want

[vital girder]

Those are bruisers not cleavers they just also do aoe damage

[dry hull]

im confused but why are yall putting yourselves in a box that excludes all the good characters that do what you want them to do.

[pallid canopy]

aoe dmg = cleave
plume = cleave
sylph = cleave
red diting = cleave
ok clown

[vital girder]

lol you know what people mean by cleave your just trying to win a debate

[pallid canopy]

cleave as in the playstyle not meaning aoe dmg

[dry hull]

yea lol by definition where the word cleave came from that is how it works and has always been known

[pallid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

[dry hull]

wtf is a cleave playstyle?

i caan turn one kill your team with faster speed with a red diting and plume. does that make me a cleave playstyle?

[vital girder]

its bait dont interact

[green meadow]

i was going to but it definitely is bait

[dry hull]

im being for real lol what in the world is a cleave playstyle

[vital girder]

hes baiting you into argueing about the definition of cleave

[pallid canopy]

or maybe hes just dumb, people are not excused to be dumb these days

[graceful hornet]

I think it's an XD issue 100%. Every issue thus far, including stale PvE and a lack of content updates and piss-poor communications, is identical to the rollout of SoC.

I took a break from SoC for 6 months in the hope that the devs would adjust. They never did. This will almost certainly be the same. Feature and not a bug.

[dry hull]

yall said cleave is a playstyle but never define it.

[vital girder]

he litterally knows what people mean when they say cleave hes just being difficult if he didnt he wouldnt have said every bruiser

stop treating these ppl like they are serious they just trying to be annoying

[green meadow]

just think pusher + defense break + aoe dps before someone gets a turn to board wipe

[pallid canopy]

yeah, when he asked what cleave playstyle i already undestood hes just here for attention, no point in arguing back

[dry hull]

ok so if my red diting and plume and ray marry can clear board before you and goes first does that mean im a t1 cleave playstyle? genuine question

[valid skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[green meadow]

yes, you probably cant make that happen at any decent rating but that would qualify

[dry hull]

cause my red diting and plume are fast and usually wipe board before the enemy has a turn

those monkeys kept dodging an answer so thank you for being a real one

[green meadow]

the premise is to kill the team before they act, taking "turn 1" to kill, thus we call it T1, playing bruisers + healers to survive the T1 then win in a longer match is turn2, and if you mix and match both t1 units and t2 units you get a standard playstyle

[dry hull]

bruisers can be t1 or t2 if they want?

[green meadow]

kinda, like if you put diting on swiftrush bulwark swiftsmite he kinda blurs the line

[dry hull]

got it, its making sense

[green meadow]

yea like i run my holden on jackal with swift/swift at 310 speed, hes more of a cc unit for me then an actual turn 2 bruiser, but im still a degenerate cc player

[dry hull]

i also run my holden like that :). him diting, plume. i can turn 1 clear any squishy attack team

[rose hill]

Well… I don’t know about that one…

[valid skiff]

A P5 holden will cleave you yes but idk about Tia

[rose hill]

In all honesty I am fine with a bruiser meta but just not this prevalent! it’s basically 95%+ bruiser with/without a flex CC… tone that down to around 60% with 30% pure T1 and I would be happy!

[fringe turret]

Yea most of top 100 is like this now

[dry hull]

they look like well rounded teams. what teams would yall like to see in top 100?

[fringe turret]

Dont take the bait guys

[dry hull]

omg why do yall keep saying bait

the only thing that is silly imo is amber.

[rose hill]

I am one of the few real believer in top 100!
Burn BB and Amber!!!! 🤣

in all seriousness, my biggest gripe with BB is being on supports and dps… there should be a negative for non-bruisers using this set too…

[green meadow]

Constant string of anti turn 1 units releasing one after the other hasn't helped either

[thin imp]

W patch W devs minus sania + lack of gvg changes

I think she could have a full cleanse but leave it at that. And nerf her healing even more if thats what they wanna do with her.

[iron shale]

yeah i saw the hypertalk, another bruiser LD ( that could arguably be used in CC but that's pushing it rly ) and basically the perfect SR counter to CC

basically another tool to shit on an already weaker playstyle

outside of that, there are some interesting stuff, and the fact they gave complete visibility on events is nice, but i don't know man. I'll wait for the balance patch

[rose hill]

Is Amber ends up getting buffed… uninstall the next day 😮‍💨

[pallid canopy]

seeing no new events to the calendar is crazy tho

future of the game is running champions call the 100th time

[valid skiff]

From 79k members to 10k real quick

[iron shale]

i'am not convinced for now, the only thing i look up to is the balance

[pallid canopy]

🫰

[rose hill]

There is one though - cachi treasure vault or something
Also cage being only a week is a W.
The cycles between NQ and Dreamscape becoming shorter is a win too.

All of these means nothing if they botch the balance patch though 😮‍💨

[pallid canopy]

good for u man

[rose hill]

Thanks!

[thin imp]

The sr character increases shell and animus cd, so wouldn't cleave players just use it, gives a crit rate and cdmg buff on s3 and then extra turn to apply the shell cd increase. Also innate lifesteal for crits so yeli could survive maybe.

[dry hull]

im using him with rahu

[rose hill]

TBD on the actual skills but he can easily be better for bruisers. No idea why bruisers can get 85%+ crit and 250% cdmg on top of BB survivability 🤷

[hearty acorn]

like ray, diting, even aya, he looks like he could be useful to t1 but a better fit for t2, so overall he will benefit t2 more

and guys sofa is a troll, just block/ignore him, don't take the bait

[dry hull]

i didnt even do or say anything to him and hes upset

[trim frost]

sania buff another bullshit

[dry hull]

im getting bullied by v tubers 😂

[fringe turret]

Yup i would say ray is a bigger burden to t1 than a help. While she is usable in t1, there are better options as a first pick for a t1 team but people are forced to pick her as first pick just so that t2 doesnt get her. Either that or using a pre ban on her

[iron shale]

i'am re watching the hypertalk, and to be honnest i feel like santik should be the LD SSR

that character is so fkin insane it's crazy. He's so good i would put him on plume level

that character is literally XD saying "oww you play CC ? well, you can stop now"

and the sania buff too.....why the fuck do i play CC i wonder

[hearty acorn]

if he is SR he will be easy to max skill as well

but I'm still unsure if he is sr or ssr

[iron shale]

i started as a cleave player, had to pivot into CC, and now, what do i do, i don't even know

it's eighter i play bruiser, but i really don't wanna, or like accept the fact i'll never be able to actually compete

[hearty acorn]

I mean the hypertalk did nothing to assuage our concerns about balance, it went the opposite direction, again buffing t2. They do have a chance to balance things with the patch but the talk gave me no confidence they will do so. If they don't, pivoting to t2 will put all of us at a huge tofu deficit compared to the people who started off playing t2, I think at that point, better to just quit and find a new game where the devs are less incompetent

[iron shale]

dud they're releasing another bruiser LD, AND an SR character that's the biggest middle finger they could have made to CC players

AND they buff sania, when there's no need at all to do so really, she's already pretty decent, and now she dispels every debuff on her ult

[hearty acorn]

yep and the various QoL updates mean sweet FA if they don't balance the meta

[iron shale]

i feel like i'am rage baiting at this point it's actually crazy how they can do all those things

[hearty acorn]

of all the various SRs to buff they chose one who can still be played, it's just stupidity on their part, real braindead devs

[iron shale]

i don't think it's stupidity, at this point i truly believe they want to make their game Bruiser restart, and to hell all of the player who invested in the wrong characters

[hearty acorn]

that would meet my definition of stupidity

make a game where three main playstyles are possible, with units to use for each, and then continually buff one of those three, intentional or not, it's not the way to run a game

[dry hull]

weve already talked about this. bruisers can be both t1 and t2

[iron shale]

everything's ok tho, we're getting shell skins , this dev talk changed everything

[hearty acorn]

the various updates did look cool, but I won't stick around to enjoy them if the balance remains screwed, no worries though, there's many mobile games out there

[dry hull]

🤣

[ember barn]

I agree. Like this actually felt insulting. The presentation was terrible, they read the most phony/hollow text from the prompter with as little emotion as possible. Don't get why people are making glazing vids on the potential "improvements." To me the hypertalk was incredibly demoralising. 0 effort at actual communication, 0 owning up to stuff, 0 genuine emotion/intent. "Wow. This is so cool. And it gets even more exciting." It genuinely made me somehow lose faith in the company I didn't even think I had left.

[dire fossil]

the calendar is nice but oml enough with the turn meter push 😭

when they said they didn't want the game to be t1 speed checking, they meant they wanted the game to be t2 speed checking

also not sania getting buffed before like oboro, victor or gray 😭

[rose hill]

Well duh! Those are not t2!
Depends on the actual skill for RC and they might have turned him T2 too 😭

[green meadow]

Wild, we might be genuinely prebanning an sr now lmao

[dire fossil]

diting more important than ever lol

[iron shale]

bro he's literally broken

that s### makes no sense whatsoever

i'd be XD i'd nerf that SR character before it gets live, because him alone is going to ruin the experience for a lot of player

[fallen roost]

man, idk how y'all get this much from 2 dudes reading a script.
You're telling me two uwu girls with their breasts out would shift your perspective that much?

[rose hill]

What’s crazy is I think even turadot will benefit T2 more 😭
T1 already outspends T2… more TM push benefits T2 more 😭

[fallen roost]

twinky it's over brother...time to become t2 cleave

[green meadow]

i dk i think it was a great hypertalk, roadmap, good qol stuff coming, new systems, then just a sour taste from more overtuned units, like took us 6 months and now every unit is must pull powercreep for rta

[rose hill]

I do believe the HyperTalks as a whole was good. But those all goes outside the window for me if the game balanced is this whack.

[rose hill]

This will happen first before that…

[fallen roost]

[dire fossil]

turandot gonna be crazy with holden, u get def buff + her push is a 3 turn cd

[neon grove]

First they say: We will bring a new feature so that new Animus SRs can shine...

It makes no sense for Sania to receive a buff, why would a meta unit get an upgrade? Wtf

[dire fossil]

sania was a weird choice considering oboro, gray, victor, red kaz, yang exist. tho rc and turandot getting buffs is nice

[fringe turret]

Why are theres 2 SSRs releasing during LD banner

We are already short on lattice and now theres an RGB animus being released with an LD animus??

[west ferry]

ggggggg

releasing OP af RGB ssr with ld banner

[neon grove]

Not happy with Raymarry? Want another one already?

[dry hull]

yall still crying in here?

[west ferry]

dont care about them being op, just dont release LD op banner with RGB op banner

[dry hull]

it never ends 😂

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[fringe turret]

This.

[hollow orbit]

Devs just can’t help handing themselves Ls

[west ferry]

well the appeal of the game is you can pull all/most units as f2p/low spender,
now we are doing LD powercreep banners with RGB powercreep banners
monetizing both skillups and summons now

[neon grove]

It must be something related to the start of the season idk

[west ferry]

i went from very excited about the future, to disappointed in the span of 16 hours

[hollow orbit]

Feel like I’ve been bait and switched with this game.

Next they’re going to uncap energy and release better skins but give them stat boosts 🤣

[neon grove]

It doesn't appear there will be another SSR when Flamelia is released

[west ferry]

maybe they release one SSR early to combat the CC meta? idk

[dark sandal]

And sell energy

[median veldt]

Devs must be out of their minds to release RGB banner 1 week prior to Wishbinder… thanks devs for ruining the event

[dark sandal]

And wish binder thing only counts if u pull on permanent right

[median veldt]

It was more or less stable with having 3 weeks between wishbinder and RGB banners

[dry hull]

correct

[hollow orbit]

Wishbinder cancelled forever for being too generous

[dark sandal]

Maybe that's why they are giving cipher box away so people who didn't pull on wishbinder not be salty

[median veldt]

Seems like they’re are just dumb greedy ppl. Who ruin what was working more or less fine

[fringe turret]

Hope they address why they doing this do. Cant just be sneaky about it like that

[median veldt]

You’re thinking too highly of them

[hollow orbit]

The games not really working to be fair.

The answer isn’t doing nonsense like this though.

[dark sandal]

Well wishbinder was itself a sneaky event that got out by some thai patch notes leaking it back then

[austere raptor]

C said the script for the video was given by XD so you kinda can see what they have on their minds.

[dire fossil]

they really want to uphold their goal of getting 100 units asap lol. they arent even letting the meta settle cuz each new release cycle always brings a meta af unit that breaks the game

[nova cargo]

Wuzzy are u 4k yet

[dire fossil]

yes 🙏

[rose hill]

Better question is when is 5k?

[nova cargo]

Ss3

[rose hill]

4k is like the old 3.1k 🤣

[coarse palm]

lets just wait till monday to ask C of his input on thjis decision

[iron shale]

they just love bruiser man, the new SR unit is a clear declaration to me that they won't let CC character exist in the meta

[heady wasp]

ssr*

[ember barn]

yeah that's clearly what my post meant. the focus was the lack of breasts. you got it. well done.

[ember barn]

it was clearly given by them. that's not what im saying. im saying the company got us a drone like message. patting themselves on the back (lots of great additions, game modes, etc, when they're not actually doing that. a 'recap' where they didnt level with the community but instead went 'wow. what an exciting journey. and there's even more.' They literally read at some point "dude she is so cool. i MUST have her." with all the emotional equivalent of someone who has passed out. The entire thing is soulless and hollow sounding. none of the actual big issues of this point are addressed. The content drought, communication, the gvg and unions dying left and right, the economy and so forth. The animation was clearly poor ai slop. The entire thing felt lazy/ceremonial/performative to me, and i am not looking to trash on it or anyone. ive been around since day 1 and have been genuinely hoping this game can cement itself and stick around. But the 'script' was so superficial, detached and disingenuous, and another dropped ball. Like the halloween 'event'. Or them being content to not address issues until the next 'season'. I'm gonna wait and see what the balance changes are, but i sincerely doubt these will blow my mind. Some stuff that's included is nice yes. It's also really not that big a deal or taxing/insane implementations. We have other games to compare to.

[scarlet horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-ants-gif-10684512841626566565

[dry hull]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-murphy-rofl-laughing-lmao-funny-gif-12088023765578887630

[dire fossil]

i meaaan they kinda spilled. no shade but they sounded like 2 bored workers being forced by their superiors to sound excited 💀. like they were drawing names out of a hat and they were the 2 unfortunate souls that were forced to be on camera

im sure if c could talk about roblox or how much he hates kyuu he'd be a lot more excited

[iron shale]

so we're getting an LD and an SSR at the same time ?

[dire fossil]

yea

[iron shale]

why does he dispels every debuff...

[rocky apex]

get your CC out

[ember barn]

yeah. the complaint goes out to xd, not the specific people doing the presentation. the script was robotic corporate drivel.

[austere raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/lebowski-well-yeah-dude-gif-23245383

[ember barn]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[austere raptor]

You've been playing this slop for 6 months and you're still hoping for a turnaround? You are a true marathoner!

[dark sandal]

It's actually 7

This month ending next Monday revenue as well

[vital girder]

told you guys he was an ssr yall just kept ignoring me lol

[austere raptor]

My prediction: Global JP and CN all drop by 20%

[vital girder]

i just stopped trying to correct it lol yall think they put that much animation quality into a sr

[pliant heart]

When is the balance patch
Just let me be dissapointed now and make my decision

[vital girder]

hopefully monday kenny but no idea

[pliant heart]

🙏

[austere raptor]

Next week update day

[reef dew]

Next week

[vital girder]

hes asking about when they will post the notes they usually post it before the release

[pliant heart]

Time to figure out whether to continue farming the shit shells and modules or stop

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-again-paul-walker-gif-20189716

[vital girder]

Honestly i was thinking about it but they could potentially fix the issue if they just added a defensive bonus to attack stat like if attack stat gave you dodge or something. If they want to continue downt his everyone is bruiser playstyle. Its a possible solution to make the attack scaling units not feel soo underwhelming.

Its a potential path to not nerf defensive units but just let attack units potentially have a space in the meta.

or a deflect chance that lowers incoming damage if it procs

[jade dagger]

More rng.... pls no

[dark sandal]

Should be wednesday

[obtuse girder]

U should probably start steering towards the high road cause they are not gonna give u what u want

[pliant heart]

True. Too much copium in me for making me stay this long.

[obtuse girder]

Turn 2 will always be strong I don't think they will ever change that

[ember barn]

See, there's a chance I actually like aspects of the game and can also understand things needing time/be able to be patient. There's also a chance I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt and am not simply an unreasonable whiner just spewing vitriol now. Similarly there's also a chance you're not needlessly condescending and a provocateur but hey.

[austere raptor]

No doubt, no doubt. You have my deepest and most heartfelt respect for marathoning for so long. I dipped the moment i saw module forge.

[west ferry]

turn 2 always stronger in these rta pvp gachas

[vital girder]

I think people are just asking to get some sort of love for the other playstyles that doesnt also turn into a t2 thing. Even the support has to be useable for t2.

If your not building t2 every patch feels like more and more of your account becomes non useable.

not to mention the offensive shells and offense sets are soo much weaker than BB and defensive / utility shells

[hearty acorn]

cleave was a thing in beta also, if they wanted to not enable t1 playstyle, they shouldn't have released characters built for that. Starting the game with 3 playstyles and steadily improving one of them over the others is a recipe for losing players, particularly in a game where skilling characters is so hard and 0 resets are given

[vital girder]

like bruisers get items and shells to counter strats

[vital girder]

Pretty sure the original intention was rock paper scissor method of Cleave > CC > BRUISER > CLEAVE

[hearty acorn]

I agree, I was responding to samool saying t2 is always stronger

[vital girder]

yea i was agreeing with your statement and adding to it

funny enough i could see santik creating a situation were bruiser starts stealing freya to speed contest let santik go first and turn off cleavers cds and shells b4 first turn

which would probably just create a t1 bruiser meta lol and then cleave is really screwed because lowan seems to also be a t1 bruiser

[hearty acorn]

already aya + reaper can be used to run t1 bruisers

[vital girder]

yup and now they have another pick incase you ban aya like everything else they just get extra picks just incase you ban

santik reaper steps will be just as dangerous because unless you have bulwark on ur dps he can just turn your cds off and then it doesnt matter if you go first

[jade dagger]

Its like ppl don't even knkw what turn 1 means...

[green meadow]

its gotta be a translation thing dude, like he hopefully dispels a couple debuffs, theres no way theyre releasing a unit that just cleans the entire team of ALL debuffs, like 1 s3 after plume + celince + hein goes and removes all of it thatd be completely asinine

[vital girder]

Nope hes a full aoe cleanse

[dapper reef]

Wait Santik is an SSR?

[reef dew]

yes 🙁

[dry hull]

yes

[dapper reef]

Are they out of their fucking minds

[green meadow]

im holding out cope that he wont lol

[vital girder]

They already corrected Lowans graphic because Lowan was supposed to be hollow and accidently left it on her initial graphic and changed some of the wording. So im pretty sure santik has been updated as well

Which probably means the reason these 2 are releasing at same time was because they were both supposed to be rgb and released at same as a pair.

Just embrace the full debuff cleanse

[dapper reef]

No, this deserves a shitstorm

[austere raptor]

Its kinda sad that most people dont even bother complaining anymore. A few months ago doing this would have triggered a shitstorm

[surreal hazel]

Just tired and let it be

[vital girder]

Its because the people that would complain quit. People always think its the worst when people are complaining. The actual worst case is when it just goes quiet because that means people moved on. Complaining means people still care.

[surreal hazel]

yea

[dark sandal]

Now it's just praises for things that should have been done long ago showing roadmap be devs listened now

[vital girder]

The issue is the game is soo good but this constant catering to 1 playstyle just sucks. If it sucked it would be easy to quit. Havent even looked back at kaiju or bleach.

[austere raptor]

Well famous IP games are shit 90% of the time

[green meadow]

honestly i dont care if they want to favor t2, but like this is just insane power creep EVERY banner, like theres no "skips" in this game anymore

[vital girder]

I dont think power creep is the right word day 1 units are still top tier. Outside of Raymerry of course shes the gojo of the game.

[green meadow]

and the 1 skip was a cc unit lmao

[vital girder]

Shes only a skip unit because shes meh. If she had a buff strip or if her passive ignored eff res instead of def shed be 100% meta and picked in all teams like everyone else.

[dapper reef]

Yeah, and that playstyle is cc

[vital girder]

LOL trueee bro bruisers be making cc sound like exodia

Nani you picked lilith and diting i see you enjoy cc comps!

[mellow hearth]

Happened to afk journey. The current player base complained about the people complaining now the game is dead and no improvements are made

[pliant heart]

Reminds me of the guy that said
The problem with game:none
The problem: the community

[vital girder]

Im more speaking on if someone is complaining that means they still wanna play. Not that complaining is good or bad but that the silence is the worst.

[pallid canopy]

people under contract will never talk ill about the company

[nova cargo]

i say we disown @stone ledge and promote christ to senior community manager
marcus is probally christ supervisor so we cancel him out too

[west ferry]

careful, some people here will say its fine and healthy for the game

[nova cargo]

just buy more tofu sir you just dont spend enough u gotta spend 10x more than 7k

[west ferry]

no matter how much i spent i was always catching up so now i'm f2p

[nova cargo]

coz our wall is "modules" i havent gotten single red speed till this day 💀

[west ferry]

my wall was lattice and dupes,
t5 raymerry is thanos

[dapper reef]

They're running Santik alongside Wishbaiter

[dark sandal]

||beyontin wishbinder I am very sure it is to bait kenny||

[west ferry]

can we just add more lattice or reduce pack cost now atp if we want to heavy monetize summons for asia

[dapper reef]

Wait who else

[dark sandal]

It's just my gut feel cause why not capitalise by giving a cleave instrument as well

[pallid canopy]

sorry sir best they can do is add even more expensive packs to events

[dark sandal]

Bruiser healer and a buffer in wish binder feels like a good deal for all

[pallid canopy]

they really want everyone running bb even t1 atp, they don't care about reducing overall dmg

[feral hare]

Looks like its time to uninstall this game this hypertalk feels like the last way of milking the playerbase lmao

"Instead of fixing the meta and economy we just throw in 2 new op units and ofc we increase the amount of ssr heroes during our pull period AND ofc we dont increase the amount of lattice! Lets call it a day "

Gvg was not even worth a sec to talk about...

Such promising game.. simply destroyed by a aaf dev team.

[dry hull]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-time-bye-bye-have-a-beautiful-time-okay-approve-gif-14855994

[lapis musk]

In 5 months of gaming, one single yellow substat (a flat hp), 3 purple speed, 2 crit rate and 2 crit damage, the rest only green and blue.
I left the game because I felt very awkward on the pvp side, couldn't help my clanmates during gvg and thought I didn't want to play RTA because I never felt ready, I had to hit it because of shell lab and got roasted in bronze with my bruiser BB team against a casual team without BB

[dry hull]

@patent solar

[dry hull]

bro im not gonna lie thats fucking rouggh. i would have left this shit too.

[iron shale]

i don't think it's a translation mistake, we got their translation and it also says "dispels all the debuff", it's all on twitter

[jade dagger]

Yup atp santik shud hav 129 base spd and liam passive as well

[green meadow]

WHEN PATCH NOTES

[stone ledge]

wdym

[nova cargo]

I was speaking nonsense pardon me

[graceful hornet]

This right here. It's poor design and myopic thinking if your systems prevent players from actually playing the game.

Regarding GvG specifically, robust guild content pays huge dividends in gachas. I can't understand why so many new games launch with no plan for guilds beyond--he gestures wildly--they exist.

[thin imp]

Yeah but rn its cc > bruiser > cleave and cc is just checked by rng by bruisers. Cc beats cleave 10/10 times if faster what's a cleave team doing when nahor s2s a bulwark messiah. Or they ahve no bulwark and cc runs the game completely.

[vital girder]

Buff cleave massiah should also ignore cc he should just break out of it on his turn

[thin imp]

Mind you bruisers actually have some answers to cc. Cleave has lowk none

[vital girder]

Anything that could help vs cc is just better on bb

[thin imp]

So I mean theres no real trinity. Its cc ontop with exception of getting resisted and unlucky. And cleave dead af unless u run like super speedy cleave like rev with a turn meter pusher on lock so u avoid getting cut.

[rustic walrus]

the idea of a trinity itself is a strange one and player created. It should all average out to standard play

[vital girder]

Yea I know lol I agree if there was a nice trinity I doubt ppl would complain as much

[thin imp]

yea the main issue is no reset event makes poor investment choices make standard impossible unless u hard whale. I try to be standard but when i have rilmocha yeli xiada ssania latticed I cant compete in bruiser too well bc i dont have the new meta units built like cleince diting, can barely cc, can't truely cleave

[vital girder]

Its hard to swap styles

[rustic walrus]

Like where did the 'they wanted a trinity setup' idea come from? far as i know thats just early rta balancing made it seem. People assuming that thats the overall goal and thats how the balancing will remain forever is there own perogative. i doubt the game 'planned' anything of the sort

[thin imp]

I mean i started as pve/cleave with rilmocha yeli xiada. but when i had no turn meter boosters outside of lily i had to pivot. Now im a bit deep in bruiser yet not deep enough with these new units :/

[vital girder]

I think alot of ppl are sleeping on lowan

[thin imp]

strip -> taunt

[vital girder]

Not only that her taunt becomes unresistable

[rustic walrus]

i dont think people are sleeping on the new units, both kits look great

[vital girder]

Shes gonna be a good union vs union offensive unit and taking out yhe single tank teams with 3 supports

[thin imp]

so sad santik isn't SR...

[rustic walrus]

its literally the one bad thing in the update lmao

[thin imp]

like i dont mind using up my pulls but i cant afford lattices to use on them...

[vital girder]

I dont mind him not being sr but Jesus both same time b4 wishbender sucks

[dapper reef]

It's bad enough that I think it ruins the entire update tbh. Make it like 3 debuffs and tune down his numbers and maybe don't make him reset shells and then release him as SR

[rustic walrus]

i DO mind using up my pulls. and its fucking retarded im having to use them so quickly after a fucking double rgb banner

[vital girder]

Atleast let his summons count for bender at the worst

[thin imp]

3 last words cleansed WOO HOOO

I mean i ahve lot, im just saving for etheria 2.0 or some shit

[vital girder]

Lol nice

[pallid canopy]

if her debuff is uncleansable like plume's its ggs

[rustic walrus]

Like lets not forget...they already do double rgb banners all the time rather than 1 new unit. going for double on the other rotation as well is fucking bonkers

[thin imp]

It better be one time thing for sure tho and not the new standard. Maybe they will be generous with half anniversary cope

[vital girder]

Her passive doesn't have a turn count it seems uncleanseable and I'd put money her s3 is 3 turn cd

[pallid canopy]

can u imagine how much more toxic rta will be

[vital girder]

So you probably have to kill her b4 she gets it on 2 units or she wins

[thin imp]

So u put her in the debuff soups with diting and now u have a ticking time bomb or what ontop of jackals killing u already

[vital girder]

Remember she counter attacks after every action if you have ex on you and u cantbresist the taunt

[pallid canopy]

her s2 is aoe dmg, can't wait

[vital girder]

Shes a perma solo cc tank unit lol funny enough

[rustic walrus]

imagine all the dmg reduction with ditting + her own

[vital girder]

The funniest part is they are just putting cc on bruisers now lol and ppl consider those bruisers ccers

[dapper reef]

They need to stop lmao

[thin imp]

I mean the initial roster had 2 cc bruisers alerady, holden and lilith. both 100% base chances Holden single handly makes the t2 supports run bulwark or risk becoming worthless s1 bots. Fuq, Celince, Diting, Vero( although u could argue vero bulwark is for spreading) Lilith also needs run bulwark cuz of him.

[green meadow]

alright

seasons over wheres the patchnotes

[dire fossil]

I have em

[heady wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-not-playing-hand-it-over-give-it-here-gif-4575914747970682174

[dire fossil]

tiamat, ray and amber got buffed. Victor got nerfed

fuqiu's turn meter is doubled, plume now steals turn meter

[pallid canopy]

based patch notes, game saved

[dire fossil]

tiamat now fully cleanses when she transforms to either state

[pallid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[fringe turret]

Amber also permanently gives soul ward.
The game will never end

[vital girder]

Lolol

[wheat quail]

Season is finally over? Only took an eternity

[vital girder]

Ready for the third bruiser meta in a row

[jade dagger]

@vital girder u were quiting if bruiser meta again no?

[trim frost]

when patch note?

[green meadow]

They really going to drop them like day of new season start

[wheat quail]

when patch note?

[pallid canopy]

isn't on the usual 1 day before update

[shell mauve]

@prisma haven whats the date for patch notes

[hearty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-once-again-asking-once-again-asking-once-again-asking-gif-7917205226486132164

for the patch notes

[nova cargo]

When will u update

[prisma haven]

idk

I'll see

[restive stream]

well then

[green meadow]

Funny joke where's the rest of the patch notes

[heady wasp]

nerfed artisan and ghosted amber lmao

[green meadow]

They did literally NOTHING

[rocky apex]

Hey i think they forgot the second half the balance patch. can the team post it soon.

[green meadow]

Except gigabuff ninfoniel and dokidoki, that cant be the full list, has to be a joke

[trim frost]

PATCH NOTE FULL OF BULLSHIT

[green meadow]

Not even bullshit, just nothing, this took them 3 months of analysis???

[rose hill]

@prisma haven so ummmm Amber untouched?! Like the devs really intended those interactions?

[hollow orbit]

We can’t have mid season changes because they say they have to analyze stuff and then we get this nothing burger after all this time. 🤯

[vital girder]

Well friends

Was fun im out hope yall still enjoy the game

[rose swallow]

Cya Wolf! We will miss you

[wise compass]

this patch is HUGE

[rose swallow]

Is mid at best

[green meadow]

Its not mid, its nothing, a giant fucking nothing burger like usual

[rose swallow]

Neither good or bad imo

ive seen reaaaally bad balance patches in other games, this is mid for me. Doesnt change the meta, but still improve some things

You could see in SW for example, LD 5 units that are thrash for years or they just dont implement any QoL for many years. I think this is mid

[runic onyx]

cuz c is a chronic liar

[rose hill]

Yeah patch is very mid… most of the shakeups are for t2 mirrors

[lofty sun]

Damn

[green meadow]

I genuinely cant believe amber untouched, well I guess nothing got touched

[rose hill]

Hoyan and Batsy buffs were nice but man… Amber untouched?! Like they are seriously not saying that’s intended.

I guess the solution is the new LD. Sell the solution!

[austere raptor]

SeanB whats your opinion on SS2 PATCH?!

[rose swallow]

RGB* resets amber

[lofty sun]

Every new patch more and more good cleansers

[chrome plinth]

Oof size large

[lofty sun]

0 new wound unit too

[green meadow]

Maybe theyll be some hidden "bug fixes" listed, but like globals on life support, revenue and playerbase in the gutter, and let's just play it safe with a nothing burger balance patch

[rocky apex]

obv there only looking at CN data. used and abandon global.

[lofty sun]

Cant even block doki cleanse anymore

[rose hill]

New LD! Selling solutions the XD way

[lofty sun]

But the new Ld also doesnt have wound

[rose hill]

Whoops that’s taunt!

[green meadow]

The overtuned guitar guy can reset shell cd

[rose hill]

C is probably not going to open discord this whole week 🤣

[dark sandal]

Don't worry sean b they heard ur inner voices and gave a acc buff to dark moon which will help u to rko ur opponents

[rocky apex]

they even shitting on the global branch.

[dark sandal]

I don't think rosa buffs even make her meta

[frank karma]

well more reason to up for nether quarry

[jovial sail]

Today is the day I officially uninstall Etheria. Goodbye everyone

[dark sandal]

Hey i thought u said in samool video comments that when u saw roadmap ur looking to comeback to etheria seeing the bright changes hmm

[rocky apex]

This is just the PVE patch notes

[jovial sail]

Yeah and then they nerfed artisan, didnt fix amber and didnt nerf raymerry

No character nerfs will kill the game. Might as well quit now and save the money its gonna keep going in the same direction especially after the dip in revenue from Scarlet and other guilds quitting

[frank karma]

they did everything wrong

[dark sandal]

Yeah I still remember how hard e7 was criticised for its early days nerfs but they were needed cause of that trauma

[frank karma]

fake pve note never include klhoros buff smh
we need send the truck

[dark sandal]

I think rather than revenue if this game just bleeds players constantly it will be very stagnant scene same people fighting against every day and increase of bots

[hollow orbit]

Atleast any game that comes out in the future will be able to look at Etheria and see how not to do things. Their gift to the genre as a whole 🤣

[dark sandal]

Cn doesn't do the trucks they send ml cidd

[dark sandal]

We have to wait for 2027 or long for a actual turn based pvp it seems cause nothing in the horizon for now

[austere raptor]

Star sailor

[green meadow]

The nothing on amber is really whats shocking, like the actual "broken" stuff, raymerry gaining stacks frozen, tiamat transforming because the frozen heal is counting toward passive, xiada keeping orbs, frozen state can get twin tricked, aya/fuqiu pushed, how is any of that not touched

[rocky apex]

mental illness

[jovial sail]

yeah but like raymerry is still a character. why?

[austere raptor]

Its possible they dont know how to fix it

[dark sandal]

That's pve and as of star saviour f2p only get like 10 limited pulls and like 20 pulls so 30 for a patch that's it and the spark is 200

[hollow orbit]

Raymerry legit needs to be deleted from the game

[dark sandal]

Even e7 doesn't have this much bs unit

[hollow orbit]

She’s powercrept Bystander Hwayoung. Etheria full skipped 7 years of development and powercrept a modern E7 unit

[jovial sail]

i mean

[lofty sun]

Raymerry kit is almost the same as one of the most broken LD SSR in SW + more

[jovial sail]

etheria started out with massiah I probably should have seen the writing on the walls.

[dark sandal]

[hollow orbit]

There’s still people popping up in the main chat saying everything’s fine. Madness 🤣

[hushed vigil]

200 for a pity in nearly 2026 for a gacha games is kinda wild ngl

[jovial sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1soKUjlpFCI

My goat with the best timed video ever

[rocky apex]

cn comment

[jovial sail]

oh boy

[hushed vigil]

[hollow orbit]

I guess that’s Raymerry? lol

[jovial sail]

yeah it is

[hollow orbit]

CN are speedrunning their way to Global’s lack of spending and this isn’t going to change that lol

[green meadow]

Yea but everything i listed arent "nerfs" those are genuinely broken interactions, youre supposed to be frozen and not gain any benefits except healing

[austere raptor]

Cn peeps woke up faster than global peeps

[green meadow]

And almost all those are passives still working and being allowed to be aoe turn pushed

[lofty sun]

also Nevette suddenly cant ignore def against iced state unit even tho it gains more defense not dmg reduction

[frank karma]

nevette +20% dmg buff

[green meadow]

Just more to the list

[coarse palm]

i hope c is seeing this and slamming jack

[wheat quail]

Eeeey! LIAN GOT BUFFED THOUGH!! MAH GIRL!!

[green meadow]

I dont blame c hes just the scapegoat here, they dont even listen to him

[lofty sun]

no new push back, no new wound, more cleansers, more def buffers

[fallen roost]

china gaslights jack who gaslights c

[coarse palm]

i dont balme him either i just need him to yell at devs

[rocky apex]

they tweak debuffer like kloss but add more cleansers. OXY MORON

[last flame]

who gaslights us

[lofty sun]

RC77 better be peak

[flint warren]

The XD Entertainment game development team are, unfortunately, retarded

[wise compass]

new content about patch soon?

[hollow orbit]

Ourselves. Hanging around thinking the game will get better when they keep doing this again and again

[jovial sail]

restarted*

[coarse palm]

i swear c said that this shell is fried im sure they missed something

[wheat quail]

You all wrong

[fallen roost]

c is a real one. He can't gaslight if he genuinely believes the team actually cares

[hollow orbit]

It’s the community that’s wrong dammit. 🤬

[frank karma]

yikes

[fallen roost]

c huffs industrial grade copium

[wheat quail]

Etheria will be great, they just need more balance patches like this!

[hollow orbit]

We get a balance patch like this every 3 months so in a couple years the game might be good! 😅

[fallen roost]

I can see a great game longterm but holay, this is a rough 6 months
Artisan nerf...damn

[frank karma]

more amber for everyone

[green meadow]

True their 5 year plan is playing out according to schedule, they just entirely forgot the customer service and retention aspects

[shell mauve]

this is the single dumbest thing i have ever seen anybody say

[wheat quail]

Remember they have an Analyst that analyzes everything into the far future of the game, and so they implement things based on that

[hollow orbit]

Luckily everything has bots in it now so they can just play by themselves

[shell mauve]

e7 meta past few months has been garbage but comparing this literal pile of shit slop game to e7 is criminal

[dark sandal]

Yeah and c also analysed himself that etheria will never eos

[last flame]

they use fortune cookies to predict things

[lofty sun]

https://tenor.com/view/raid-shadow-legends-raid-gif-20940490

[wheat quail]

Can’t EOS when you have bots playing bots!! cough Challenger’s Call cough

[dark sandal]

I see no other game cm dissing on other company games or even bring them to say hey our game is better than them if c messages get spread it will be very bad

[fallen roost]

most of these messages are clipped out of context and spread on reddit anyways. That's how kenny ended up in reddit drama

[wheat quail]

Where’s the guy that has the “You guys lack reading comprehension and context” screenshot

[dark sandal]

Yes but even without context words are words they atleast contain some medium of thought of person whether he is trolling or not

[wheat quail]

@austere raptor has it I think lol

[fallen roost]

I did suggest that he make a shitpost alt we can have fun on

[dark sandal]

Like once or twice sure but if there are multiple at some point people will actually believe he is negative

[wheat quail]

Pulling through fr

[fallen roost]

I can take one message, bring it into another game's discord and start my own gacha pvp.
Agenda posting is quite the jobless activity

[dark sandal]

Yeah but it spreads out just like twitter war

But not making more join just to debate about that rather than the people in server only so it's contagious

[digital rapids]

Wtf, completely ignore community feedback. This dev is just joke now honestly

[wheat quail]

They about to make an apology post and give everyone a free Raymerry and Amber selector. Everything will be good in the end

[halcyon mist]

They could hand a bunch of lattice for free and it sorts nothing, the fact they continue to show to be so out of touch is the real issue as seen with the balance adjustments

[fallen roost]

bribing gacha players is quite effective.
Wuwa tossed 30 pulls at players after the anniversary drama and made the playerbase turn against each other instead of the company

[shell mauve]

id take 3 lattice over a free fkn raymerry, give me every unit ever whats the point

[wheat quail]

Technically I can get those lattices from returning rewards lol

Sadly, I uninstalled. May just lurk in server to see how the game goes from here.

[dire fossil]

ninfoniel getting upgraded to t2 💀

they said cc who

[wheat quail]

Devs clearly showing that they refuse to nerf SSRs is just a sign to jump ship. Not to mention, they nerfed shells and not even the most broken one

[median veldt]

Thank you for these balance adjustments @prisma haven 🙂 send my “blessings” to the dev team.
now I can finally stop spending and just focus on PVE 😂
No need to push as a T1 anymore

[dire fossil]

I figured Tiamat wouldn't get nerfed considering she's the end of season skin and she was featured in 2 wishbinders, LDs will prolly never get nerfed

so the only candidate that would maybe get nerfed would be fuqiu but shes getting reran after messiah so

[austere raptor]

Wuzzy still marathoning?

[dire fossil]

I'm gonna get my free SSR and prolly uninstall unless something within me changes lol

[austere raptor]

RIP

[green meadow]

Ill be honest I just wanted amber nuked

[dire fossil]

balance changes being straight buffs and the rare indirect nerfs is not sustainable, and new Animus are just being more and more busted and lattice hungry + there's literally no time for the meta to chill until we get 100 Animus or if both new releases are pvp flops (like ninfo/batsby)

[rose hill]

Man this “balance patch” felt like a slap to the face for T1. Like really… not even an Amber nerf? Give more tools to T2? 😮‍💨

[wheat quail]

I just wanted to see that SSR nerfs were on the table. Even if the nerfs weren’t directed at the broken meta units, at least show that they’re on the table. It’s that simple.

But nah, can’t be arsed to do it because community will demand reset event. Well, give them that f-ing reset event! Lol

Happy community happy game, no?

[austere raptor]

Seems.like they dont want t1 cleave to be a thing. They want matches to be bruisers duking it out.

[rose hill]

So umm… you guys got any good game recommendations?

[dire fossil]

artisan also indirectly nerfs like what 3 Animus? with mizuki being hit the hardest since she's just a Tiamat answer and amber wouldn't help her with that, rahu and Holden can chill with amber

[austere raptor]

If they didnt want cleave to br a thing they should have not created massiah at all.

[dark sandal]

If u are gooner try star saviour in march

[dire fossil]

pvp game that balances with only buffs is willldddd

[austere raptor]

If my heart had wings

[fallen roost]

we playing goon savior now

[rose hill]

Not really. I guess I will just wait for Godforge

[dark sandal]

Cause reset makes there revenue bleed ur going out of ur ews script wuzzy

[dire fossil]

EWS will save the game

[wheat quail]

As if they’re not bleeding already lol even “Global” revenue dipped a whole 6m lol

[green meadow]

All they had to do was nerf amber and I think we all woulda been "fine whatever at least that bullshit is done"

[hollow orbit]

This is the only reason ERs still limping along. There’s no good alternatives atm lol

[rose hill]

Oh well I guess I will sleep on it for a day or two to decide if it’s time to just move on.

[dire fossil]

yea that and also they can always just pay more CCs to talk about how gr8t er is

[dark sandal]

They don't care about that since it's only cause of their negligence they feel more bad if it happens cause of their generosity

[green meadow]

"We investigated ourselves and find were great"

[rose hill]

Seriously! That alone would probably make me at least stay… it’s the bare minimum!

[austere raptor]

Whats the next big E7 SW RSL type game??

[dire fossil]

XD be using their Tapatalk money on er

[wheat quail]

You don’t nee CCs. You only need one C

[austere raptor]

They cant even make money off their games, they can only make money off ads

[dire fossil]

C will save the game

[green meadow]

Lowkey the dokidoki buff is asinine too, make her shit a yellow buff so heinrich cant buff block her now into full cleanse for 1 stack, S TIER

[dire fossil]

dokidoki getting buffed is so random lol, and I have a maxed out Doki and she's insane already

[shell mauve]

we dont like counterplaying being a thing in this game

[jade dagger]

Bye cc ig... santik doki aya who will u choose to ban :/...

[wheat quail]

It’s because they released TWO TWO new SSRs that are insanely strong for CCs. Has to be the reason, right?

(Referring to Nevette and Diting if that’s lost on anyone)

[dire fossil]

while u still have to worry about ling, and also sania and ninfo buffs

[median veldt]

I dunno, mate… These devs are just a bunch of clowns. (Yeah, @quasi tiger , I am talking about your guys)

Why the hell having so many play styles (CC, Cleave, Bruisers), if all they do is - nerf everything except for T2 def-oriented bruisers…

No f…cking fun.

I just stop spending 🙂 will focus on PvE, just take mythic for lattice.

As a secondary game, it works 🙂 just gonna wait till Arknights Endfield release

[jade dagger]

Dont forget raymerry 🤣

[dire fossil]

raymerry made the game worse lmfao

[hollow orbit]

They did literally do that 1 min into the HyperTalk:

"Wow, that's great. You can really tell the dev team is working hard to bring new content to the Hyperlinkers"

🤣 🤣

[green meadow]

Raymerry broke both pvp and pve tbh

[dire fossil]

everything got so stale with raymerry esp ai arena and GvG and pve, she's a pain in the ass in pvp for scrubs like me

[median veldt]

I laughed so much when I saw Ninphaniel transformation for T2 😂😂😂

[cursive kettle]

no amber nerf is crazy

[green meadow]

You dont like refreshing etherena to see 5x ray aya fuqiu plume?

[cursive kettle]

whatsup with the artisan nerf

[dire fossil]

they really hate mizuki ig lmfao

[jade dagger]

This is weird ... im sure i read them saying amber nerf

[prisma haven]

no one said that

[rose hill]

I might be on the same boat. Maybe even just uninstall and find a new game where devs actually plays their game and cares.

[prisma haven]

I assumed they would bc of all the complaints but

[jade dagger]

Oh

[prisma haven]

I guess they didn’t want to and tested it or something but yeah…

[dire fossil]

I'm assuming balance team loves Tiamat cuz she got 2 wishbinders, 1 eos skin, and they nerfed the shell one of her most common answers in pvp lol

[prisma haven]

I’ve told them ab amber for over 2 months

[hollow orbit]

We know you’ve tried mate. It’s the devs that aren’t paying attention

[prisma haven]

yea yea some ppl were saying I said amber was getting nerfed

[rose hill]

So ummm @prisma haven I will get the flights to France and you get us a lodging and gears to jump off Eiffel Tower? Or was it Empire State Building?

[median veldt]

I would drop immediately- but there is no good game for now. All other - same sh..t.

So just gonna stop donating to these clowns.

And wait for January ;))

[green meadow]

Dont blame you bro, we just riled up at this nothing burger patch

[prisma haven]

but ive only just said its fried and busted

[wheat quail]

Word, can’t even give C flakes at this point.

[prisma haven]

lets go together

eiffel tower works

I wonder why they decided not to

theres no way they didnt test it more

[rose hill]

Seriously no clue. The interactions are so bad that it can even pass as a bug 🤷

[green meadow]

Because half the cn championship teams were using 4-5 ambers, they're not gonna piss them off with nerfs

[median veldt]

Are you seriously asking? Lol!

Check how they nerf CC, no buffs/balance adjustments for T1

These idiots just eradicate every playstyle besides T2 bruisers def

[hollow orbit]

There’s just no way a PvP game can survive without nerfing big outliers like Amber, BB, Raymerry etc

[fringe turret]

😢

[green meadow]

I think theyre just gutless tbh, theyre too scared to fuck up so theyre fucking their shit up worse by doing nothing, look at buffs, its usually to units ppl dont use and they buff parts of their kit that make 0 difference

[kind galleon]

I think this was the worst balance patch I ever saw...
I don't even have hope anymore
No issue was fixed:
Masiah and Liliam remain the only usable DPS
BB keeps being a must
Fuqiu remains a win condition
Heinrich and Mio remain the only reliable ways for Turn 1 to deal with Amber
Freeze remains the only reliable form of control
CC and Fuqiu remain as the only way to deal with Raymerry
Amber and Reaper's steps bugged interactions remain

[median veldt]

I am seriously considering buying a ticket to Shanghai to give Jack a good slap - to wake him up

[hollow orbit]

Raymerry legit has a 100% pick rate. That’s madness

[rose hill]

What still confuse me is that Amber is so obviously broken! Like what were they thinking? Then new heroes are for bruisers…
Bruisers lossing to CC? Here hold my beer!

[dire fossil]

they too scared to nerf cuz nerf SSR = reset according to words that came out of Jack's mouth

[wheat quail]

Love how they went all in on Doki but then left Hoyan with a 8% lol should have pushed that 8% to 100% so she can finally do her job

[rose hill]

20% more damage on Nevette S3! Woohoo extra 1k damage!

[green meadow]

Nah I think its deeper then that, think theyre afraid of making any meaningful decisions

[hollow orbit]

So let people reset and then put more work into not fucking up so hard in the future 🤣

[median veldt]

Forget it, man! After 2 months of collecting feedback, that’s what they heard 😂😂😂

These degenerates are losing money every month - they are just incapable of managing their own game

[rose hill]

Not worth it. You might catch what ever he is smoking 🤣

[dire fossil]

they gon make a plume/fuqiu hybrid

[median veldt]

Just check how many ppl gonna drop this time 😂

[shell mauve]

every change they make and every unit they release is released for the purpose of appealing to whales, which playstyle do u think the whales play lol

[jade dagger]

What bug on reaper?

Fuqiu? Nah lowan will end her

[rose hill]

Discord about to hit 50k or less soon 🤣

[green meadow]

Global revenue was like 300k last month lol

[median veldt]

I am a whale 🙂 and play T1 since day 1

[wheat quail]

I’m fairly certain most whales play speed in other games lol

[dire fossil]

I mean there were hella messiah whales back in the day, same with yeli

[hollow orbit]

The server lost like 200 people since the patch dropped 😅

[shell mauve]

not in etheria lol

if u spend enough to buy all lattices and p5 all units, theres absolutely no reason to not play t2

[wheat quail]

Only sterbby cause tofu rains where he lives

[kind galleon]

Reaper description says it only procs once a turn

[dire fossil]

china will save the game

[median veldt]

I am sure it’s gonna drop to 150k in December

[wheat quail]

They forgot to add “once per any units turn per hit” lol

[green meadow]

Jesus christ -75% in 1 month total

[jade dagger]

It is same as fuqiu moon lit veil once a turn (nybodys turn) no?

[green meadow]

Theyre down more then global lol

[dire fossil]

jack will cook something

[hollow orbit]

CN just aren’t marathoners lol

[kind galleon]

It should be fixed for Fuqiu too tbh

[austere raptor]

Instant noodles

[dark sandal]

Cn jp realized quickly than global but where is kr

[green meadow]

In his car after they file bankruptcy

[austere raptor]

If i was jack id embezzle a ton of money and flee to thailand.

[dark sandal]

I see no kr guy

[green meadow]

They probably already spent it on their latest dumbass ews event they didn't even tell global about to watch

[dark sandal]

Cause all region one is coming in this month

[dire fossil]

that one will save the game

[thin imp]

So where are the artisan nerf criers like when codex got hit with a nothing nerf

[dark sandal]

Even wuzzy is invited to carry water bottles for players who are thirsty for pvp

[wheat quail]

Who’s going to cry about artisan when you’d rather use amber over it?

[green meadow]

Anyone else like genuinely bummed out? This was my first gacha I went all in on since the beta gameplay and overall game mechanics were so fucking good and was so into it, and somehow here we are now in only 6 months

Like generational fumble

[dark sandal]

I ain't bummed cause I have seen many fumbles in other games before

[hollow orbit]

Yep. I was so hyped for this game. Tried to stick with it as much as possible but it’s just been L after L

[rose hill]

Me. I had high hopes for the game. But devs are communicating so well that they just totally ignore a huge swat of players

[pallid canopy]

devs trying to kill their own game with bad comms and the worst "balance" ever

[hollow orbit]

I don’t know if they’re actually incompetent but they certainly give that impression

[jade dagger]

No need to be nice abt it.... u has 6 months of "impression"

[green meadow]

Its gotta be fear, ships sinking, dont want to do anything to piss off anyone left, but doing nothing is the worst choice

[median veldt]

Another T1 dropping

[jade dagger]

Maybe... but things like amber and raymerry nerf are no brainers.... so

[median veldt]

Thank you, f…cking idiots, for killing the game 😂😂😂

[jade dagger]

Well they made the game so i guess it is within their right to kill it too if they wish ...

[hollow orbit]

If even the man who was invested enough to make the EtheriaRTA discord is quitting you know the games cooked 🤣

[rose hill]

I mean at this point doing nothing would have been better! But devs ended up buffing T2 even more!

[green meadow]

Eh I think the ninfoniel buff is pretty cool tbh, the doki buff is asinine tho you right

[austere raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/horrible-bosses-kevin-spacey-i-own-you-boss-bossy-gif-4301274

[wheat quail]

I genuinely had hopes for the game. Like C, I was a believer in the early months. It’s only until Amber became a very prominent shell and Raymerry, that I started to lose hope. I literally did not logged in these past few weeks of SS2 RTA; just waiting for balance adjustments.

Boom! Imagine my disappointment (or not so disappointed since I had a long time to stay away and cool off)

When I knew I could step away from the game, I had no incentive to come back.

[green meadow]

And this is the 4th? Helkid buff and the only buff he ever fucking needed was make shield a yellow buff, not this 47 different buffs that make 0 difference

[mellow hearth]

Everyday, the road to top 1 for @dapper reef gets better and better

[austere raptor]

Top 1 is still top 1

[jade dagger]

Wudn't that be almost as bad as doki for cc players if yellow buff....

[mellow hearth]

Hes just a rising star 4 patches in a row

[austere raptor]

Pretty sure devs just generate a list of lesser used units and then just buff em.

[jade dagger]

Maybe they do it next season .... yellow buff to hellkid >,>

[mellow hearth]

who cares about cc players? This is etheria my guy. We dont care about those here

[green meadow]

If it was his original kit with his original base stats I think itd be fine, this current gigabuffed helkid yea itd be too strong

[dapper reef]

Hey everyone how's it going? Any reason everyone is sending so many messages?

[dire fossil]

balance patch notes are out

[pallid canopy]

buff notes out

[wheat quail]

like how you say “buff notes” fuck yea this ain’t no balance notes, only buffs lol

[jade dagger]

Theres 's still hope guys 😂

[pallid canopy]

yeah they should name like that

[dire fossil]

they nerfed artisan to whack mizuki

[green meadow]

Like this is what i was saying, what is this? Wtf is the point of this, how does this help him, his problem is you strip his shield and his whole kits fucked, wtf is the point of this

[dapper reef]

Notes? Out? I don't see anything anywhere. You're all hallucinating. If they were out I'd see Amber interaction changes, I'd see Rey nerfed, Mass, Reaper nerfed at minimum. I'd see so many things. The notes can't be out

[forest slate]

BB survives season 1

[dire fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/prude-losers-snow-white-in-asylum-gif-9088917889881420103

[hollow orbit]

Today’s was just an early April Fools.

Real patch notes out tomorrow

Devs are such jokers

[dire fossil]

the real patch notes will come out when CN gets bored of t2

[green meadow]

Honest to god, I wouldn't even be mad, please

[dapper reef]

The only patch notes I can find are Doki finally becoming an Apex Cleanser. Nothing else seems to have happened?

[jovial sail]

They are already doom posting

[dire fossil]

dam where

[jade dagger]

Doom posting 1 month in...

[dire fossil]

they lost the home advantage smh

[thin imp]

Hes not t1

[green meadow]

Be kinda funny if cn drops the game and theyre left with us the playerbase they tried the hardest to ignore

[wheat quail]

BRO! They had EVERYTHING global set them up for LOL we were the beta remember? Lol if anything they had home advantage but still couldn’t score a goal lol

[thin imp]

The biggest issue is how do ray fuq plume amber jackal codex all escape nerfs

[dire fossil]

they nerfed artisan cuz they hate mizuki

[wheat quail]

F, don’t touch Jackal lmao Codex already got nerfed

[thin imp]

the artisan nerf is legit the same as codex nerf imo, doesn't change the core issues around it

[lofty sun]

no time weave buff no halloween buff

[pallid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-the-rock-smile-windy-handsome-gif-15812740

[dire fossil]

they buffed lian but she's still a flop

[jade dagger]

Tbf if u need more than 2 s3s in a row as t1 player im not sure if u using codex right 😅

[thin imp]

Jackal is OP. Its spd buff, 8k damage, 30% turn meter. Its used everywhere, in t2 cc, t2 debuff soups, cc, all as the MAIN damage dealing factor

[wheat quail]

Maybe I can kill Holdens with S3-S2 now? Lol

[west ferry]

artisan was the op shell all along?

[dapper reef]

I can't wait for the patch notes to come out and maybe turn Fuqiu the fuck down. You guys think they'll come out tomorrow?

[dire fossil]

I LOVE FUQIU

[jade dagger]

Dw lowan will fuqiu

[pallid canopy]

maybe with the ray nerfs and tia true dmg not criting anymore too!

[thin imp]

Artisan is an AYA issue lmfaooooo. + the nerfs to artisan change nothing, ur not getting to punch thru artisan shield anyways u gotta strip it/ wait it out

[west ferry]

i farmed 6 weeks for my artisan now it nerfed sadge
shuda just farmed more ambers

[dapper reef]

Artisan shields get stripped or expire anyway, this changes jack

[mellow hearth]

Jack has been forever changed

[thin imp]

Jackal I believe is the shell in dire need of a nerf. It does way too mcuh daamge that people use it as a main damage dealer

[tulip goblet]

No amber nerf? No reset event announced? No raymerry nerf or slight adjustment? Only a slight buff to Nevette that's barely going to do anything? Buffing dokidoki when she was already really good? This game is so cooked for T1 players😭. I do like the ninfoniel buff, though, since I invested 8 lattices into her already, but it looks like she's also going to be useful for bruisers who scale off defense now since she applies defense up at the start of battle.

[rustic walrus]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1445269686269775963

[wheat quail]

Then buff TigerYin so it’s the useable DPS shell in T1. And I mean give it swiftrush set + more dmg boost

[thin imp]

Jackal is an issue not just for turn 1. Have u seen the debuff soup comps that stall u for ever with no meaning of ever picking a damage dealer except jackal

[green meadow]

OK first off, they already nerfed my codex, remember ive been crashing out about it for like 2 months, still tilted

[jade dagger]

Relax guys this is just partial balance noted 😂

[dapper reef]

I agree with the Doki buff actually. I understand she performs differently in the whale stratosphere but she's been a piece of shit in anything below that since the Nahor buff

[thin imp]

I mean the codex nerf is as relavant as the artisan nerf. They both change nothing about how stuff works. the nerf to codex that would actually be good is probblay just removing the speed up part. nerf jackal damage

[mellow hearth]

I am relaxed. 3/4 of this discord doesnt even play the game bro

[wheat quail]

No one is planning to stick around long enough to see the “potential 2nd half” lol

[jade dagger]

We get ray buff in 2nd half

[rustic walrus]

codex nerf is a nerf.....for t2 users of doki

[green meadow]

Smh dont start, just continue the riot about the nothing burger patch

[thin imp]

I mean i have 8+ jackals, and i want it nerfed

[mellow hearth]

they nurfed rev so quickly yet letting amber run free

[rustic walrus]

patch is bad, thats not in doubt, but saying jackal doesnt need a nerf is just weird.

[thin imp]

I kill t1 dps with freya jackal + plume jackal and thats it. 2 jackals to kill a dps unit. Its also used in teh stupid celince diting comps where their shell is the damage dealer.

[green meadow]

At least the whole community is in agreement for once right? Patch is cheeks.

[fast crest]

Can anyone send me the link to the RTA discord on private please?

[rustic walrus]

patch is indeed cheeks. smelly cheeks even

[mellow hearth]

Nah. I WILL BECOME SEMBU NOW

[jade dagger]

Yes u got the devs true goal

[pallid canopy]

noooooooo i want my reset event

[green meadow]

Unity through hatred.

[hollow orbit]

There’s been some weapons in the general chat saying it’s good 😅

[dire fossil]

jack will save the game

[mellow hearth]

How dare you say the R word in my presence

[pallid canopy]

😭 sorryyy

[jade dagger]

An enemy of an enemy id a friend indeed

[dire fossil]

raymerry will save china

[thin imp]

China ask for raymerry nerfs too 😭

[green meadow]

Its crazy the entire playerbase is asking for it, and they just refuse lol, like what are we doing here?

[dark sandal]

We need sherlock homes

[jade dagger]

Raymerry can b the saviour they didnt ask for

[wheat quail]

The GOAT did it!
https://youtu.be/g-GHxbtTM3w?si=HN7HqSaE3aidVlQo

[jade dagger]

That was quick to make a vid....

[lofty sun]

batsby will be insane

[dapper reef]

https://youtu.be/0nWlktBBBHA

[pallid canopy]

grab that bag king

[lofty sun]

but i wasnt sponsored

[pallid canopy]

damn thats awful

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-wheelchair-my-honest-reaction-gif-26977569

[wheat quail]

Damn I’m hurt, “No one uses Lian”

[lofty sun]

bro is a pioneer

[nova cargo]

Lady of scales balanced !?

[dark sandal]

Yes

U have ways around her more now since ml yulha literally make hp cleavers go through scales as well

[rose hill]

Got to say - I enjoyed that clip!

[dire fossil]

will batsby save the game

[lofty sun]

HUGE dmg
amber proc
rip

[dire fossil]

like lian's 3d model huge? or her splash art

[rose hill]

Easy just CC her!
Oh wait there are 5 more cleansers coming…

[lofty sun]

oh wait u didnt kill intime because of P5 and bloodbath? out of cc and 1 small sneeze! your team gone ❤️

[rose hill]

Or let me kill 2-4 of your units before I hibernate. Let me bramble stun too for insurance

[frank karma]

Cant we slap ran

[rose hill]

XD probably said Ray Ray only used on half the games. No need to nerf and ignore the fact the other half she was banned…

[bold steppe]

Well amber not nerfed to prevent cleave playstyle and cleanser hevily buffed on top of new cleanser santik to prevent cc playstyle. Message is sounf clear. Cleave and cc are not what etheria is about . etheria is a bruiser meta game, if you like it great, if you dont, look for another game.

[median veldt]

And it’s not just about balance adjustments. Banners for bruisers only - same message 😂🫣

The situation is hilarious:

the more their revenue drops, the dumber decisions they make.

Already know 10 ppl who’re gonna stop spending - minus ~20k a month 😂 in a day

[austere raptor]

But they sponsored trueevil

[surreal hazel]

Oh ?!

[austere raptor]

Yeah thats why he reinstalled. You can see paid sponsor on his vid too

[jade dagger]

I saw his vid i thot he was trolling...

[austere raptor]

He kinda is. He doesnt actually care about the game, he just in for the money. I respect the hustle tho

[hearty acorn]

well, they made it easy with this patch, screw this game

[bleak lintel]

Gacha brain syndrom hits to hard with these reading skills

[rustic walrus]

you think they can read beyond 'amber nerf???'?

[bleak lintel]

I said artisan and jackal are more broken than amber so i am confused why they didnt touch jackal

[rustic walrus]

becaue the 'amber nerf' clowns dont want jackal to be nerfed

[bleak lintel]

The only issue i have with amber is how it interacts with some units.

I dont mind on what it exactly does because thats hardcountered by wound and CD increase.

So i am even more confused how people saying we dont have another wound unit to deal with amber

[rustic walrus]

yeah tia shouldnt transform and ray shouldnt get stacks when in amber, beyond that amber is fine. Maybe aan argument can be made about not allowing t+ while iced

[bleak lintel]

While santik literaly hardcounters amber and increases shell cd

And santik is overall such a broken unit you can use him in every team so just draft him in pure CC if you dont get to play mio or heinrich for whatever reasob.

[livid lintel]

E7 have 350+ unit so there are many units that counter lady or they have 2 preban you can preban her if you don't have units so it purely depends on how you draft and you have units or not

But this game unit pool is not that big so releasing units like ray this early is just bs

[rustic walrus]

hellkid, mia, rosa, lian, batsby, kloss, nevette, hoyan, turandot, law, dark moon, ouroboros buffs and artisan nerf
Obviously the patch is t1 coded lmao. Yeah they messed up the amount of buffs required to make some of these units viable, but its clear this was meant to be a patch to make t1 better. But all everyone crying can focus on is doki and a lack of amber nerf

[median veldt]

lol, you are dumb as f

[jade dagger]

I think mia became more t2 viable, ninfo and doki also quite significant buff to t2

[rustic walrus]

ninfo is honestly still useless and mia is still not gonna be used by anyone other than people wanting t1 dispel

[jade dagger]

I think u can still block doki btw just cjange color of buff. Like rahu cant get wrath so for thosr complaining abt hein vs doki its not legit arguments

[jade dagger]

I think built mia in cc team is very cancer so u stealing mia vs ccers may be more legit (havent test yet).

For ninfo having choice to cleanse or immune seems viable if latticed 2-3 cleanse is not that big a deal

[rustic walrus]

idk man, t2 mirrors gonna have a vero or a stripper, ninfo isnt gonna do much

[jade dagger]

Is ok lowan will also make vero useless....

[ember barn]

I called it out, but those who responded were happier acting like I was having a crash out. This amount of patting themselves on the back with hollow scripts was insulting, and a very bad sign for their actual intentions to appease the community

[topaz geyser]

@prisma haven i think we need to sit down and have a talk about more serious problem than the lattice economy !
For me there are 2 point that i think are more important to the game than Lattice.

1. The game is losing their audience and Unions are suffering
   We need to get all Servers into one
   There are so many players that are leaving and unions are dying bc the reagions dont have enough players
2. Devs fear of nerfing units
   On everygame we do have a balance patch to fix whats broken and buff whats weak
   In etheria we have has 3 nerfs since the release of the game Kazuyo s1 , revelation and artizan
   This makes me think devs are scared to make any changes besides buffing units , which does not balance the game
   Ray , Fuqiu , Plume , Vero , Jackalguar
   The Powerhouses of SS1
   They are going into SS2 without ANY changes
   We dont want a reset even if it means we get GOOD balance changes , and i speak for everyone ( not for @median veldt tho)
   So please take a look and do the best you can do to deliver this msg
   The Leader of Talended Dextra

[median veldt]

Lol, "I speak for everyone...". Too loud mate. Considering that a lot of important nerfs we need are not mentioned at all.

[idle junco]

Is the nerf to Blothbath hidden?

[onyx oxide]

Remm if you are wondering what’s the meta right now:
Cleave is basically non-existed because of amber neft
Cc players are in the edge of dying cuz too many cleanses ( still maynot for pure cc)
Bruisers are complaining ‘bout ray Fuqiu and plume

[median veldt]

Just an idiot who can not provided a proper complete reasonable feedback. Stating "I speak for everyone" when in reality speak for himself and 5-10 people.
"The Leader" -> empty word 😂. Just a teenage boy who can not hear criticism.

another idiot @rustic walrus 👍

[rustic walrus]

clown blocked me now

[median veldt]

blocking 2 dumb idiots, who don't know how to play RTA with zero reasoning skill:
1st idiot is saying that the patch is awesome for T1
2nd idiot is "speaking for everyone" on nerfs desired by T2
so good luck! great achievements ahead of you both

[rustic walrus]

dumbass calls everyone else idiots without providing anymore points
dumbass gets mocked for it
dumbass blocks people providing feedback
dumbass too redditpilled to you know, actually ignore the people he supposedly blocked and still replies to them

[vagrant helm]

Finally more and more people are starting to realize the sheer stupidity caladbord brings to the table

Keep replying lil bro

[rustic walrus]

backread more and decide if supporting rohab is really the hill you want to die on

[vagrant helm]

Ur a million times the cancer anyone else here is

Knew that ever since i gave proof about my mess and ur hard ass cant accept sht even with proof, typical rtard behaviour

[rustic walrus]

bring back your 'Yes' account pls

yes just like the 111 tia proof Yes used to talk of

[wanton sandal]

@here

[iron shale]

i mean what cleave focus are you talking about, the only good cleave buff is batsby, the rest of the buff are for unit that are currently totally unplayable in PVP even after those buff, and then they're buffing 3 character to be really dispellers/buffers. So this patch is actually very good for bruisers

[vagrant helm]

Bro he is a clown, this guy just has skill issue playing bruiser so he complains. Like hes so trash at the game, he wants everything spoonfed to him and still cant do sht

[iron shale]

and everyone complaining about amber when in reality the real problem is not amber, but reapersteps. That shell alone shatered most of the T1 strategies

[rustic walrus]

the good buffs are on hoyan, batsby turandot, and doki
Dokis buffs are more helpful for debuff soup t2 mirrors
how is that 'better for t2'