The current state of the game is unacceptable

[wheat quail]

This got me rolling LMAO

[dire fossil]

i would agree if it was like more accessible, but atm they cant unless you draft like everything mass needs (the only one who can do that) and if the opponent is a moron and didnt preban/ban the right unit then it's like draft issue for the oppo

[wheat quail]

Lmao SW has done it. E7 has done it.

Cleave literally means “end the game turn 1 or forfeit”

[dry hull]

my response was to the other person who defined cleave as aoe and the definition he gave is the same one that every other game uses for it.

[stone sail]

He is that wrong? i’m not a big gacha player but the people in this discord really are toxic

[dapper reef]

The people in this discord are totally normal except regarding the game, which is the fault of the devs and their choices more than any reflection on the participants

[stone sail]

totally normal is cope ngl, unless you consider twitter also as a normal sphere

[pliant heart]

No wonder u defend this game when u started a month ago
If you had played at launch you would have quit by now. I bet you all dont even research or ask how the game was at launch or what issues it had, the same events u just been seeing once or twice now we have seen it 10 times.

[chilly pumice]

nah any online pvp community brings out the devil inside people

[stone sail]

they take it as an excuse to act like complete toxic morons tho

people can be passionate and still act the same way they would IRL

[dapper reef]

This community actually has a comparative lack of drama in that vein

[chilly pumice]

im telling it as it is, just be aware so you can fend for yourself

but ig youre right maybe the CoD and Battlefield community can be toxic at each other but still love their game

[green meadow]

I mean i dont think these threads are even toxic, the most you get usually is "I disagree with you" noones cursing anyone out, just usually harmless rta discussion back and forth with occasional jabs

[pliant heart]

Some of the people i have seen here think its toxic if you disagree with them and counterpoint their opinion.

[dry hull]

yea i heard the game was rough at the start. pity was 100 and you didnt get lattices when pulling dupes for new characters. ngl that would be kind of rough to play

[green meadow]

Thats just normal wElL aKtUaLlY you get that everywhere

[pliant heart]

Lol you are way clueless if you think that was even an issue anyone was complaining about.

[dry hull]

i mean bro im not gonna dig out the lore of the problems the game had.

all i can give is my opinion as a new player and what i see

[pliant heart]

Fair enough, i just think its wrong to blame the community when the community was the one who brought all the good changes that you are seeing now. Pve was dogshit hard if you didnt have the ideal ssrs, no skip on ember trek normal, no 5th mythic shell on inferno shell farming run so u could end up with 10 gold ssr shell and many more.
A lot of good changes you are used to now is cause the community pressured the devs.

[rose hill]

Those were some of the good changes! The game still have a lot of places to fix but overall it’s pretty good compared to other games I have played except for the dev comms… if devs communicated with the community more often will solve a bunch of anxiety and doom posting…

[chilly pumice]

well we dont see the toxicity anymore because mods actually ban them. it works because they come back changed

[dry hull]

yea i think its just the communcation thats a problem. its really easy to get mad when the devs dont talk about the intention. everyone here has to guess the intention and whats to come and then argue about it because of the lack of comms

[mellow hearth]

Literally everyone outside of the game doesn’t like the game. Idk why you are blaming the community when the devs did it

[pliant heart]

Yeah its always been a case for any online pvp game that people will want their playstyle to have an unfair advantage so they can have more fun at the expense of balance. People here aren't using actual cleave counter pick and instead using amber to just braindead win against cleave and cc and then defend amber saying "amber is balanced and need no nerfs cause i lose to bruiser players in mirror matches who use artisan"

[chilly pumice]

i hope the dev log today is good so new players like you can keep your positivity

[dire fossil]

name em

[pliant heart]

Wuzzy

[dire fossil]

now I know you lyin

[mellow hearth]

Remember when people said e7 got 7 years so Etheria should get 7 years before we can judge it

[heady bridge]

flighttoganyu has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[pliant heart]

You asked for it

[dire fossil]

I asked for the truth not your dirty lies 😤

[pliant heart]

Those same people are no longer playing

[rose hill]

People saying Amber is fine even with its crazy interactions (Raymerry, Tiamat, and TM pushes)… just funny 🤣

[mellow hearth]

They will be back in 7 years

[green meadow]

100%, and then accompanied with "were gonna improve communication" then still not explain anything ever lol

[dry hull]

yea were gonna improve communication should never be a thing you even should have to state in a dev log. that is kind of crazy ngl

[dapper reef]

To be honest any time they've clarified their intention it mostly made people more angry

[mellow hearth]

But have you tried it out with liliam???

[dire fossil]

the ninfoniel/batsby situation was crazyyyy

[pliant heart]

See this is what i meant when some people here consider toxic when they dont get their desired answer and quickly dismiss other's opinion.

[dire fossil]

I'm gonna key your car

[rose hill]

Didn’t the devs blame us for “preemptively” nerfing Rev in one of their post?! Got to say the end of the very first season was the best so far in my opinion.

[pliant heart]

The raymerry one is hilarious, just a big fuck you to the opps before she goes to second life to come back.

[dapper reef]

"we refused to nerf inferno and let people naturally counter rev so we nerfed rev instead and it was a mistake so uuhh we won't be listening anymore"

[dire fossil]

you can beat rengo with liliam + batsby + ninfo combo

[rose hill]

My biggest qualm is Tiamat keeping her stacks then straight up get a turn when Amber activates… basically a free AoE and back to full health Tiamat 😮‍💨

[pliant heart]

Fair and balanced

[mellow hearth]

“Smh you guys are so dumb. We won’t be listening to you anymore”

[green meadow]

Lmao "See you were wrong and were not fixing it so kick rocks, but please swipe on your way out."

[dapper reef]

We're getting toxic again guys

[pliant heart]

The solution to our problems from month 1 has arrived.

[rose hill]

Like the idea of Amber is really good. But come on… fix these problems. And if devs says it was intentional… well I am afraid of future balances 🤣

[mellow hearth]

Thank god. It’s about time

[pliant heart]

The guy who pitched this idea to the dev team must have gotten promoted.

[pliant heart]

Its a stupid shell that gives second life with immunity and incoming damage reduction with no drawbacks.

I have seen a lot of people quit this game cause of shell farming and lack of reconfig chip and we finally got the solution in the form of paid packs. The devs truly do listen.

For just a small price of 50.999999 we can get the reconfig chips we needed.

[dire fossil]

it says super value 332% u mongrel

[pliant heart]

God bless the devs

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[mellow hearth]

How could the community do this to us

[green meadow]

Right like tia transforming going into amber bypassing all drawbacks and dragon ulting immediately cant actually be intentional so whats the holdup, like merry should not be gaining passive stacks frozen either, what are they doing, say something

[mellow hearth]

Lmao just saw this. So it’s the community’s fault everyone quit cause of the devs so he can’t fill his guild?

[pliant heart]

The gacha community wasn't patient enough.
Remember it's a marathon not a race.

[thin imp]

I mean it exists in teh same game as invincibility, def ignore, passive ignore same kit while theres other units locked up in jail because of one bum stealing all the power budget

[austere raptor]

Remove shells from.game

[dire fossil]

the way me saying I don't recommend ER reaches like maybe 5 people at best, while dude out here with 22.6k subs has more reach than I can ever dream of couldn't turn the tides lol

like dude with 22.6k subs couldn't fill out a 30 slot union but it's the community's fault ok, maybe there's a reason you are struggling to recruit (which all unions are atm)

[austere raptor]

Taking shit up the butt from devs is not an achievement unless you a masochist bruv

[mellow hearth]

It’s even funnier knowing he’s one of the main reasons for etheria’s downfall. He was trying to scream to not nurf inferno for the longest time which in turn caused the game state we are in today

How many problems would have been avoided if the devs nurfed rengo or aurora

[dire fossil]

fr he said that?

[mellow hearth]

He was screaming skill issue the whole time while the drama was going on

[austere raptor]

He clear inferno with SR and R chars

[dire fossil]

yea literally if the pve farming meta wasn't strict af like it is now and back then, more casual players would play cuz they'd actually get gear and potentially could be interested in pvp

[mellow hearth]

Like a month after everyone else

[austere raptor]

And with inferno gear

[mellow hearth]

It’s even funnier that people said you can farm inferno gear. Just equip inferno gear… like ….

[austere raptor]

Cant believe hes blaming players for leaving when they arent happy lmao.

[dire fossil]

lmfao frrrr that's insane

[green meadow]

Funniest shit too rengo still isnt nerfed, pretty sure cn is currently complaining about it

[austere raptor]

And then he uses it as an excuse to quit

[dire fossil]

yea they are so adamant about not nerfing rengo, they are just selling the solution (ninfo/batsby release, liliam rerun, plume is now on newbie banner)

even then I doubt new players would pick plume because people keep tryna push new players to get yeli asap 😭 and she also like looks better tbh

[austere raptor]

If they had just kept inferno as it was during beta, i think there wouldnt be so much unhappiness and dooming.

[mellow hearth]

The honeymoon period would still be up.

People would have realized rev is countered with bb. Liliam wouldn’t have needed a buff. Lattice burden would be lessened since people wouldn’t have needed to lattice chars they used in pve for slow clears.

It’s crazy how badly the devs fked up by refusing to nurf rengo or aurora

[green meadow]

Even before that the freya nerf from beta, I think they literally said something like "were just nerfing off popularity"

[mellow hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/me-watching-my-past-self-interstellar-meme-watching-past-gif-25439819

[austere raptor]

One stupid decision. Ripple effect

[dire fossil]

people wearing the I beat overturned pve farming stage in a pvp game as a badge of honor was wild

they'll be like skill issue and it's like well yea, I'd like more people to play the game not less people to play the game cuz they got frustrated trying to farm equipment lol

[mellow hearth]

Yeah. Never got the argument that people WANTED hard farming stages

Especially since we literally had tribe 90k show you what hard pve farming does

[dire fossil]

they just called people skill issue but it's also like that's not really an argument lol? you just wanna feel superior

[rare moth]

You know what's even sadder? This post had over 1000 messages and the developers aren't going to do anything about it.

I hope I'm wrong, but seeing the latest events in the game, I'm almost hopeless.

I read somewhere that there might be a dev log this weekend, but I'm not excited at all. In fact, I'm even worried.

[dire fossil]

tbf they did do something they are just selling the solution with ninfo (wish binder + release), liliam got a rerun and plume and ig yeli are on the newbie banner

but I will say Nico, hoayn and doki are significantly more manageable and are in a good spot. Sharon, aurora and terror are manageable with the right units + investment. It's just rengo and khloros that are the issues

[rare moth]

I understand,It has improved in this aspect of the banners,but that doesn't change the problem of PVP balancing, module farms and shell farms, the difficulty of PVE modes, perfect lattice gains, etc.

[dapper reef]

Shouldn't we get the dev log in an hour

[rare moth]

And what PVE and PVP modes can't you achieve with the right units and investment?

[rare moth]

But I understand what you meant.
I myself can't get past Rengo Inferno and Khloros, due to shell and equipment issues, but I won't go into that subject anymore.

'I'm tired, boss.'

[dire fossil]

I was being sarcastic but yea I agree

khloros is pretty bs without plume or hein, rengo is lol we really tried to get them to nerf him but they told us "help is on the way, try ninfo + batsby with liliam"

[rare moth]

I don't know

[pliant heart]

I still remembering them showcasing batsby against sharon

[rare moth]

What Rengo does with my ninfoniel and Liliam is rated +18.

[dire fossil]

but u can always try a slow clear with liliam/kloss or Doki or vice/viper/green sania. that's what I did back then (tho with diting)

[austere raptor]

Yes stay tuned

[dire fossil]

because of the dumb element stack mechanic u can't put the best pve team together if u want consistent clears cuz 3/4 are all DARK

[dapper reef]

I always stay turned up

[dire fossil]

I rlly need it to say help is on the way fr

[pliant heart]

New skins are on the work. We know : )

[austere raptor]

We hear you

[dry hull]

do i need ninfo for rengo and khlores?

damn cause i was gonna grab fuqui

[dire fossil]

for quick 3 star clears (like 30-55 sec) yes, but if you are still getting high 2 or 1 star clears then no

[green meadow]

You guys pumped for this dev log? Inb4 giant nothing burger

[dire fossil]

ill forgive the nothingburger only if they title it help is on the way

[pliant heart]

As always. How many times do they have to shit on our expectations lol. Most of us dont have any rn.

[dire fossil]

i mean jack woke up from his slumber according to c and china is starting to complain so maybe there's a chance it could be good

also yea the bar is in hell they could say anything positive and itd be a win or they could say nothing and it'd be like just another friday for ER

[pliant heart]

86k members in discord and the discord rn is crickets, the state of this discord is exactly like the response of the devs regarding player feedback

[dapper reef]

Oh god it was nothing

[restive stream]

so

[pliant heart]

Holy shit my expectations were low but this is something else

[thin imp]

[restive stream]

absolutley nothing it was nothing after all that hyping up smh

[pliant heart]

Enjoy top guild wars guys. Devs listensed W.

[dapper reef]

I had no expectations but still

[restive stream]

i had small expetations but even that was squashed how tf are they this out of touch

[thin imp]

@prisma haven so... whats this about an announcement about copy pasting previous announcements and then never actually doing anything about it

[lean moat]

He hyping the announcement and there’s nothing

[restive stream]

like come on man you cant seriously think that thats what peoplew anted to hear lol that was absolutley nothing nothing improtant, nothing about dealing with the problems, they went and said yea we are working on it and ran back under the blanket

[pliant heart]

Guys get ready for big announcement friday

[restive stream]

the only thing thats remotly intresting is the pve mode and the shell forge, nothing about gvg outside of bandaid, nothing about lattice, nothing about config chips absolutly nothing smh

[pliant heart]

Lets not kid ourselves man, that pve mode is gonna be another cage Rumble

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-rumble-ring-wrestling-gif-8902996

[prisma haven]

lattices are just so difficult to touch I don’t think anyone expected that

for gvg they know what people have been asking bc I gave them the feedback so dont stress too much

[green meadow]

Shell forge and cage rumble part 2

[pliant heart]

Bro i think u need to stop saying big news is coming. Or announcement is coming

[chilly pumice]

the two new animus seem to be cc/cleave oriented. at least now i know i can safely invest my pulls on the wishbinder

[restive stream]

dude, there was nothing there man, new pve mode, shell forge, and new unit release cool, but adressing the other problems people complain about nothing, this is about the same level as the union tie feature that they did something there to placiate people.

[prisma haven]

gvg and shells have been some of the biggest topics in the community

[restive stream]

im usually not this negative but like there is no way they are that out of touch to say that right, like if you want increaced communication have some sort of constant update. Instead we got we are working on it trust us bro

[dry hull]

i dont think there is anyway to make them happy unless you guys give them 24 lattices

[dire fossil]

idk i think ppl just want something more concrete as opposed to, it's coming trust

[flint warren]

Help is on the way /s

[dire fossil]

SURVIVABILITY t2 buff 🙏

[prisma haven]

I tried to get more details but I guess they want to be vague until it’s finalized

[pliant heart]

Brother i know you like being the bastion of protection of criticism for the devs but i urge you to research the problems this game has before typing like a dumb fanboy.

[dire fossil]

can you please title the next dev blog as help is on the way, id be gagged

[dry hull]

legit if they gave you guys 20 lattices you would say how great everything is and how amazing the devs are

[prisma haven]

lol

[restive stream]

they should have posted next week if thats the case, like i would rather have no communicationa nd something concrete rather than a we are working on it lol

[thin imp]

Or if they say next week they will have a gvg fix implemented

[dire fossil]

knowing GvG is still gonna be the same for at least another week, isnt exactly exciting news, if not longer

[flint warren]

20 lattices wouldnt restore my faith in the game I wouldve liked something more concrete about the GVG tie system

[thin imp]

Instead there is still no accountability or deadline for when it'll happen and this is usually the case when ur bumming and don't want to actually set ur mind to do it

[potent sun]

had low expectations and somehow this didn't even meet that

[dire fossil]

like people want at least a date or details (what's the new tie system gonna look like, how will it work, etc)

[flint warren]

"Please god give us more money"

[dire fossil]

also the tie issue has been going on since late august, like bfrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[restive stream]

look i dont even mindd cage or dreamscape, atleast its garunteed lattice, i would rather them be on permenat rotation like how the events are. so we get some more lattice income and people arnt as down bad

[flint warren]

We saw how ties worked when United Front launched and we knew it was awful right out the gate

[thin imp]

i mean atp its more about the fact that this union tie thing has been a concern for months and they implemented a temp fix for a week so they surely fixed it or are about to implement something by next week or atleast can tell us ideas about how the new system would work.

[potent sun]

it's just clear that the devs don't care

[thin imp]

What this looks like is a "PLEASE CHATGPT WRITE SOMETHING TO KEEP MY PLAYERS COPING BUT DO NOT SET A DEADLINE OR GIVE THEM A TIME WHEN IT"LL HAPPEN BECAUSE IDK IF WE WANT TO DO THAT WORK"

[restive stream]

or even if they do they are so out of touch its bad. I completly understand this is a company and all but you have had so many people from every region telling you something doesnt work and no response. whats it going to take cn feeling the pain so the response is instant?

[pliant heart]

Yeah, whether you're t1 or t2, its apparent to us that the devs dont care at all for the longevity of the game. For those that stuck around from day 1, all these nothing burger patch has made us less and less motivated to play in this game.

[austere raptor]

See the Boss himself comes out to apologize. This is how you do dev notes.

[dry hull]

thats not a dev note or a dev log.

[austere raptor]

https://forum.netmarble.com/sk_rebirth_gl/view/13/1094

[prisma haven]

jack told me next patch

but we'll see

[lean moat]

[dry hull]

yea netmarble usually is good with dev logs my bad i didnt see all that at first

[austere raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/khaby-khabane-khabane-lame-5minute-craft-gif-22801605

[pliant heart]

https://tenor.com/view/diablo-joke-meme-is-this-an-out-of-season-april-fools-joke-out-of-season-gif-16662191

[potent sun]

next patch 🙂

[dire fossil]

ok support diting is gonna give everyone a buff that's bloodbath which stacks with normal bloodbath in his s2, his s3 is gonna be lilith's s3 + s2 combo. boom a support-type animus with exceptional survivability and control

[thin imp]

just tell jack to give the details if they have a solution in mind. ur only hurtting ur own image if u have a solution in mind but don't wanna share it and keep letting people think u are incompetent. if ur actually working on something share it.

[graceful hornet]

Was that it for the devlog? Really? Nothing was addressed in good faith. It was nothing more than a preview of what was already in development.

[wooden lichen]

what do you mean dont stress? Just because they know doesnt mean they'll do anything about it. They've known for months now and their useless pathetic asses havent done fuck all about it

[thin imp]

XD is getting gapped by netmarble its compeltely joever.

[dry hull]

been a min since i played netmarble but when i played we had tons of events and collabs. i did just get invited to 7ds origins closed beta but im not a pve player

[wooden lichen]

even the dogshit that was the nino kuni crypto game from netmarble is better than the slop that etheria has become

[prisma haven]

agree

trying my best

[lean moat]

[mellow hearth]

So... Uh..... Is etheria saved?

[austere raptor]

Netmarble may be greedy p2w company but they know how to make players happy and communicate properly. They know what they need to do.

[pliant heart]

Dont stress too much.

[dry hull]

its honestly not the worst dev log ive seen. it says heres the stuff that we are working on for November update. then again im new and dont understand the whole GVG issue.

[austere raptor]

I can see this becoming another legend

[mellow hearth]

After what they did to 7dsgc I don't believe this

[potent sun]

every patch or announcement is basically - well it's better than nothing

[wooden lichen]

they've been saying that for the past 3 months, that they are listening and to keep providing them with feedback, but they havent done anything with that feedback. Its just a neverending cycle of empty promises

[mellow hearth]

Well the patches are marathoning. Not sprinting

[austere raptor]

Oh yeah nm games dont last past a few years before going full p2w but at least players are happy during that time.

[dry hull]

got it. yea i had no clue

[restive stream]

They say they look at feedback and want more connection with players but then they go and say where communication I don't know where I put it.

[austere raptor]

Its just lip service. I also say i want to get my life together and make it big but its been 28 years and it hasnt happened

[thin imp]

Eventually it cant just be "we are looking at feedback" and never actually work on it. (and if they are working on something, this is such an L PR move)

[mellow hearth]

Incredible how nurfing inferno at the start would have saved them from the negative PR they are in😭 🙏

[restive stream]

I mean I'll still keep playing, I actually like the game but this sort of stunt is what will make people wanna quit, if you don't give any communication and just have the whole trust me bro attitude people will just be fed up and leave.

[austere raptor]

Dont stress too much

[restive stream]

I have seen worse situation like the start of e7 so it's not as of a problem to me, it's just I rather not be playing the game of there is no competition

[prisma haven]

he was making fun of me

lol

[heady wasp]

this is so dumb.

[wooden lichen]

tbh start of e7 was still better than this

[austere raptor]

Nah....

[green meadow]

Soooo czn? What we doin homies?

[thin imp]

CZN on top

[neon grove]

I'm quitting, goodbye everyone. Is no more hope

[thin imp]

cmon 1 more week!!! just 1 more.........

[green meadow]

Unlocked zero system today, fuckin goated game so far

[mellow hearth]

How so

[restive stream]

Nah start of e7 as way worse sure u had no lattice stuff but it was way way more annoying

[dire fossil]

well 1 more week minimum, idk about the max

[austere raptor]

Did you not like the 4 types of molagora

[prisma haven]

a lot of people are mainly just waiting on ss2 balancing and how that is handled

so it;s up to the devs

[heady wasp]

complaining about the difficulty of content when the game was still early. it was meant to be a hurdle to overcome

[dark sandal]

E7 was a pve game at start if I remember pvp was added later right

[dire fossil]

Tiamat buffs incoming 🙏

[thin imp]

i think if theres no nerfs to ssrs, alot of people are gone.

[austere raptor]

It wasnt a hurdle it was the great wall of china

[wooden lichen]

atleast they had content

[heady wasp]

and did you clear it now?

[dire fossil]

the only SSR they'd directly nerf now is like, lian lol cuz she's free and ling

[restive stream]

You mean for nothing to get nerfed and then people complain about cleave being non existent lol. It's going to happen mark my words

[thin imp]

this no nerfing ssr vision doesn't work if we release insane kits and then next banner has to be op as fuck again?

[mellow hearth]

There's a reason games lower the difficulty. It's to attract the casual player. It's a gacha game. You can look at tribe 9 where the majority of the population stopped playing at the shark fight

[austere raptor]

Issue isnt clearing it, its the investment needed to do so. It worsened the lattice drought and also discourages new players. Farming content should not be tower of abyss 100 level difficulty

[restive stream]

True but content in any game does go fast I mean etheria content lasted me a month and a half it was quite fun for pve back then

[thin imp]

if an archetype is clearly weak but theres a fucking outlier is the common sense not to nerf outlier and buff everything else? (messiah holding other cleavers hostage in jail)

[wooden lichen]

no i mean like actual events instead of dice rolling or watching ai fight on screen

[heady wasp]

i can see where youre coming from with this stuff. the problem was that there wasnt a pve mode to place that difficulty in to. they didnt have a true tower mode so ig they though that they needed to put that difficulty in farming

[mellow hearth]

Funny thing is that there were endgame pve modes. But some reason people wanted the FARMING stages to be hell

[austere raptor]

Ember trek, anisync echo? Even the fkin mode ethernet something

[dire fossil]

cage rumble too, dreamscape has abyss mode

[austere raptor]

I'll admit though ember trek is a real shitter of a tower mode

[heady wasp]

failed tower modes. yes, they were difficult at the time but now that we all have good gear it's less of an issue. we need about another 50 anisync stages

[mellow hearth]

So make those difficult... Why make farming stages difficult

[wheat quail]

This sounds like you already gave up….

Which is sad to see, honestly. But I’ll give you props that you’ve tried hard.

[dire fossil]

i mean back during the inferno debacle people surely werent speed clearing ember trek or ethernet lol

[prisma haven]

what am I gonna do about balancing

relax

Ive pushed the feedback and it's up to them to make solid choices

[heady wasp]

the fact that he's showing up during all of this shows that he's not giving up. you guys are just blasting him for things out of his control

[prisma haven]

the dev log is one thing but the ss2 balance will be the biggest moment (because people do not understand context of my other messages right before, I mean that it will be a pivotal moment in decision making. I am not hyping it up.)

[prisma haven]

it's fine but reading into it like im giving up and that it's sad to see and stuff... none of that lol

just being toxic

[dire fossil]

big as in good or bad cuz big could mean tiamat gets buffed like holden

[green meadow]

I mean they throw you to the wolves all the time lol, "hype this up" "gachu fam" then nothing burger

[wheat quail]

Maybe I should phrase that better, I’m not saying you should do something about.

Just the tone of the message sounds demoralizing.

[prisma haven]

big as in celince feet grow bigger

[mellow hearth]

Good. She's been struggling lately

[austere raptor]

Brooo dont hype it up again

[prisma haven]

im not hyping it up

im saying

that will be more important to do right

[dire fossil]

dam they want celi to look like graven smh

[dire fossil]

ikr let dragon mommy shine

[prisma haven]

the tone of the message is that im the cm and work in operations and im not on the balancing team nor do I tell them what to do

so yes, it is up to the balancing team

not me

that is not demoralizing

I just know that the upcoming balance decisions will be very important

[dire fossil]

so holden is getting a speedo skin?

[prisma haven]

even if people are frustrated about lack of detail and dates on this dev log, that ss2 balance is arguably the most important thing for them to do right

[austere raptor]

Next patch

[mellow hearth]

Any word on the street what cc the new units do?

[dire fossil]

bet

[hollow orbit]

Bunch of my friends who were holding out just quit because of that dev log.

Literally nothing specific in it at all. Doesn’t even say when this next version that’s mentioned is actually releasing 😩

[austere raptor]

Strong cc

[wooden lichen]

If devs cant hire enough people to work on multiple aspects of the game at the same time, then why even make the game at all

[rustic walrus]

omg i didnt even say anything about the dev log or w/e they did today, but by all that is holy stop saying stuff like this 'next announcement will be big'
Use more modest terms and give actual details if possible or just dont say anything atp

[dire fossil]

diting gonna get lilith's s3+s2 combo, and will inflict def down cuz why not

[prisma haven]

u guys lack reading comprehension and context

[mellow hearth]

Before or after the shot?

[prisma haven]

again, im not hyping it up

im saying it will be the most pivotal moment for them with a lot of the current community who is fatigued

if they do it well, it will help the game a lot

[thin imp]

can u just ask them for any details whatsoever at all.

[rustic walrus]

'but the ss2 balance will be the biggest moment'

[austere raptor]

[dire fossil]

both obv, that's 6 chances to land def down, delay, and stun (deals 6 hits total)

[heady wasp]

because it will. wtf are you on?

[mellow hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[rustic walrus]

are you unable to comprehend why people are tired of this constant gaslighting of 'next announcement will be big'

[dire fossil]

ok so when does holden get naked

[mellow hearth]

Search on rule34 I guess. Or draw him with chatgpt

[austere raptor]

Next patch

[dire fossil]

idk what rule34 is what is that

[heady wasp]

youre having some confirmation bias here man

[thin imp]

I mean understanding what to do and actually admitting mistakes is two different things. this no nerf ssr has to go if they want this to be an esports which they have spent so much money on. Its either it becomes casual power creep fest or competitive with nerfs and balances. we ALL know they have to nerf, but thats their bottom line because of reset event being promised for nerfs.

[rustic walrus]

u are right, afterall its a marathon not a sprint

[dire fossil]

if u lie u ded

[austere raptor]

You lack reading comprehension

[dire fossil]

my mom says im the best reader in town

[prisma haven]

most people thought that the bandaid fix for union ties was the final solution and devs wouldnt do anything about it further. It has been communicated now to players that they are implementing a real solution soon likely in the next patch, but yes they should have included those details for better faith. This was one of the biggest issues within the community.

shell rng where people are spending 60-80 days trying to obtain a single shell has been one of the biggest topics in the community.

[austere raptor]

Im gonna key your car

[prisma haven]

lack of no new pve content has been a huge topic

[dire fossil]

that is not your thing

[austere raptor]

It is now

[prisma haven]

I'm not sitting here hyping up things to the max, just saying they are working towards addressing each major community topic. The CN launch was super hectic and got in the way of things pace wise but now they are all aligned and moving better than before

[dire fossil]

um that's cultural appropriation

[mellow hearth]

And you’re going to like it

[wheat quail]

It’s great and all C but these dev log absolutely 0 details on how these new modes/implementations will work.

“This is what we’re working, this is how it’s going to work, these are the items we think this will solve.”

The put a footnote:

anything said in this dev note is in development and subject to changes

Is that so hard to explain?

[coarse palm]

i just read the devlog.. uh oh

[dire fossil]

[thin imp]

So we can expect more frequent annoucements that arent servers (bc there arent new players and you'll keep losing) and roadmaps? When do excuses stop and things happen.

[austere raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-gif-13888739

[prisma haven]

I have already commented on the lack of detail causing complaints

[prisma haven]

I am told they will be trying their best to do these more frequently

[thin imp]

Can you make an event happen where JACK talks to us

[prisma haven]

now that CN launch has calmed down

[prisma haven]

I will try to arrange this

[dire fossil]

hello 911 im feeling threwatened

[mellow hearth]

Last time jack talked to us he got flamed

[coarse palm]

i feel so bad for you C like this has to be the PR of XD or designer of XD releasing these details, like it's so freaking trash it's not even funny. I do not understand why these people (yes i am chinese) do not have a sense of urgency and an attention for detail like pay me to fucking translate or write it up omg

[wheat quail]

I know, I get it.

But the problem is this is not the first time.

Even when Dreamscape came out the first time, there was nothing on the patch notes to explain how it will work. People had to play to find out.

[austere raptor]

No rumour please

[rustic walrus]

bring back paul

[mellow hearth]

#freepaul

[thin imp]

Because I feel like this might be the only way to truely see whats going on and if you are communicating properly with them or if theres an issue on your end too. and most fair to you for the players to see that its jack being difficult more than just your incompetency.

[prisma haven]

if devs implemented everything from pauls 26 page feedback document i think etheria would be the best game in the industry rn

🤣

[mellow hearth]

See. #Pauldidnothingwrong

[prisma haven]

lol

[coarse palm]

so when si shell forge exactly? they said even after next, it's kind of vague

[austere raptor]

Shoutout to paul

[mellow hearth]

Soon.

[prisma haven]

ik next patch but idk the date

[dire fossil]

ER said paul's feedback sucks

[coarse palm]

next patch after 2x right?

[wheat quail]

Patches aren’t even consistent so it’s anyone’s guess when patch will be

Sometimes it’s a week, sometimes it’s two weeks

[rustic walrus]

you lack reading comprehension

[mellow hearth]

Er also said to buff inferno.

[coarse palm]

i know this dogshit in diamond rta is not talking to me about reading comprehension right

[thin imp]

we just need an official communication event from the devs themselves. this middle man method of communicating is just not it.

[rustic walrus]

its a marathon not a sprint

[wheat quail]

No that is something C literally said lol

[prisma haven]

it's because some ppl were taking my statement to an extreme again and I explaiend they misread but then two more people still accused me of it right after explainign that's not what I was doing

[coarse palm]

no no he said i lacked reading comprehension

[thin imp]

how is it so difficult to establish communication without a middle man in 2025

[dire fossil]

from a scale of lian's model in game to lian's 2d art. how busted will the next 2 releases be

[rustic walrus]

also i finally sat down and did rta today and got to 3350

[prisma haven]

I said ppl lacked reading comprehension and context because they are quick to misrepresent my words instead of reading

[coarse palm]

ok all is solved then no worries

[wheat quail]

Watch the next two RGB releases be “selling solutions to your problems” because they don’t want to nerf SSRs

[rustic walrus]

people are telling you its a meme bro chill

[dire fossil]

tbh considering the new gal is an offensive char with good control it looks like that's the answer to t2

[coarse palm]

dont memify the messenger, memify the XD designer, why is it still a design that RTA auto locks the unit furthest left instead of the unit you clicked on but didnt lock in yet

[austere raptor]

Dont stress too much

[prisma haven]

he doesn't know

andy is late here

[thin imp]

facts i be locking rahu into cleave bc i run out of time

[mellow hearth]

It’s fine. Cause it’s a marathon. Not a sprint

[rustic walrus]

big things are coming

[coarse palm]

i am, i came back from the gym and then had some sashimi

[austere raptor]

Like what

[prisma haven]

no invite?

i love sashimi 😞

[prisma haven]

my claim to fame is that I've never said this luckily

[rustic walrus]

my-

[coarse palm]

boutta send u a personal card next time (it was soy marinated salmon with some home made char-siu my cousins made)

[prisma haven]

wow.

i will be thinking of that while i eat my costco chicken nuggets tonight

[coarse palm]

eventually u will save the game and then XD will promote u to jacks manager

[prisma haven]

lol

[heady wasp]

chris for president

[prisma haven]

I want to develop my own game the right way from the ground up

[dire fossil]

ok hear me out, p5 515 tiamat w/ dorothy the wisher w/ bb + swift. u just AA tiamat with dorothy and nuke a btch

[prisma haven]

I have plans..

🙏

[rustic walrus]

make sure to add reconfig chips as a currency there

[prisma haven]

🤣

[coarse palm]

i cant believe they didnt make it so you can convert 30k training data to 12 chips yet 😭

[thin imp]

ive tsuki boostedd my tiamat XD

[prisma haven]

u could pay me 1 million dolalr salary i wouldnt make a gacha game

ok maybe for a million

[dire fossil]

weaksauce, just do t1 rahu. tiger yin rahu w/ dorothy the wisher. nuke them whores

[rustic walrus]

its not you making it, just have an ai run it

[thin imp]

maybe jack is just the ai

[prisma haven]

well then id just get an hsr clone like dna or stella sora

[mellow hearth]

People still have a chip issue?

[dire fossil]

omg jack could be the ai

[mellow hearth]

DNA is nothing like HSR though

[thin imp]

after u stop 10x refreshing u run out of training data XD

[rustic walrus]

or art with hands like this:

[prisma haven]

wutherwing waves clone

sorry

aka genshin clone

aka

u get the gyst

😞

future gacha games will all be ai .

[thin imp]

Etheria is an e7 clone with all the extra effort taken out

[mellow hearth]

No rumors please

[coarse palm]

yes i have 44 million data and 6 chips

[rustic walrus]

i tried to play dna but game crashed no matter what i tried so im staying in ER for now i guess

[dire fossil]

I HAVE NO CHIPS

[thin imp]

start building some ambers

[mellow hearth]

I could trade you. I’m 0 data and like 4k chips about 3 days ago when I last logged on

[prisma haven]

etr just better than e7 complaints aside and once more things are developed and polished i just cant see e7 competing and then there's no other pvp games really that are engaging in the gacha space

[coarse palm]

i have 24 gold speed modules, 29 red speeds on shells, every shell is at least red passive for pvp, and i still only have 6 chips to 44mill training data ratio ahahaha

[rustic walrus]

i have 0 data and 0 chips rn, i do have 10 million coins though

[dire fossil]

whos your least favorite person working at ER/XD

[prisma haven]

wuthering waves will outclass dna and it will die, stella sora will die, czn will live

etheria will live

[coarse palm]

kill czn so bread can come back and kill luca

[prisma haven]

marcus ❤️

[rustic walrus]

yes, afterall big things are coming

[dire fossil]

how big

[coarse palm]

ok no joke though deadass are big thingsd coming like factually big things yes or no

[thin imp]

yea I mean i do think ETR has the potential to be better than e7, e7 is also old so its roster is too vast for new players to join in. However, potential is easily snipped by incompetent hands.

[mellow hearth]

Massive

[rustic walrus]

how gapped tes got done by geng. That big

[dire fossil]

veronika big, not aya big

[mellow hearth]

About the be the most dev listenedingest devs listened moment of all devs listened moments

[prisma haven]

development takes time. If you expect a bunch of gigantic content advancements within a month or two itd just be unrealistic. Which is why ss2 balancing will be so important

[dire fossil]

im seated for the tiamat buffs and the batsby nerfs

[prisma haven]

but theyre continuing to develop new modes and stuff yes. I'm not gonna be like oh hype bgi big big big content wooo hype to clarify so people dont get upset

and if balancing team can do things right

[rustic walrus]

i want opponent names to be visible in preban screen, give me the games code, i ll do it myself in 5 minutes

[prisma haven]

we in the money

[mellow hearth]

Good. Mfker was thinking of harming our queen

[dire fossil]

yea there can only be one dragon in this house

[coarse palm]

ok how fast can they get gvg to fix, 2 shells in shell foge to come out, 2 more weekly gold lattice to everyone via weekly quest and something else, and to fix qol stuff that we been begging for (small things), mainly the first 3 :D

[prisma haven]

2 more weekly lattice would be like jesus ressurecting

[coarse palm]

can they hire me as a dev, i am a swe, i can fix this game

[mellow hearth]

Woah woah woah dude calm down. You don’t want to fuck up the economy in a decade

[prisma haven]

idk if shell forge is 1 or 2

[coarse palm]

we only get like max 9 per month, not even 12 though

[rustic walrus]

the 1 real 'dev listened' moment till now has been x2 -> x4 for double event, i ll add shell reforge to it provided i get actual date of event

[prisma haven]

gvg should be next patch but if im wrong then i gotta kill myself so

shell forge is next patch

i think they wrapped up development alr just tweaking some last things and bugs maybe

[thin imp]

then tahts fucking L pr move

[coarse palm]

C, like no cap, like we really need at least 3-4 more lattices per month to make it 12 😭 which is like 1 extra a week

[prisma haven]

yeah idk why they didnt just include details and pictures and say next patch

maybe there was a bug that came up last minute

[mellow hearth]

But think of it this way. 2 more a week means 8 a month. Which is 96 a year. Which is 960 in a decade. That’s a loss of 48k PER PLAYER!

[coarse palm]

its because these chinese people are so stubborn and lazy and want it there way, like i know so many chinese people like this (especially older people) (and yes i am chinese)

[prisma haven]

im very much in favor of 1 extra a week 2 more a week i cannot push for because that tanks revenue too forcefully even if it seems small

[rustic walrus]

no, 1hp bug has been here for longer than a minute

[prisma haven]

i reported that idk what is going on with it

[coarse palm]

yeah no the 1 hp bug and the auto select unit in select/preban/postban HAS to go LMAO

[prisma haven]

yeah ive reported complaints ab both

but obv cn launch was super hectic and theyve been having to juggle priorities and tasks

glad things are stable now

[rustic walrus]

though using raymerry in etherena against a defence which also has ray has been the most fun i have had in this game

[thin imp]

stockholm syndrome + gambling addict

[coarse palm]

C, please tell them to not make this another mistake of Flash Party (the other XD fighting game) and have the team only focus on CN/JP LOL

[dire fossil]

1 would be nice but they can always give out more shards like for phantom theater, weekly checkin, weekly quests etc

[rustic walrus]

top tier unit, please make next ld even more broken

[prisma haven]

true would encourage more playing

[coarse palm]

that game had incredible potential but the miscommunication and locking shit behind a paywall such as stats for a fighting game killed it and i am seeing a pattern

[prisma haven]

i think gvg rewards should be the core of good reward stuff

bc its the social core of game

reconfig chips and shards

[rustic walrus]

but andy, 'dupes dont matter'

[coarse palm]

yes but to a certain extent, it has to be PVE + RTA + GVG as the core components that give out frags and what not

[prisma haven]

plenty of f2p players in dia, mythic, etc. to be fair

[last flame]

crying in 40m training data and 200 reconfig chips

[prisma haven]

yeah ik

[dire fossil]

reconfig chips are too important to be locked into social stuff

[coarse palm]

i cant believe they said that smh, and can we make slow mode to like 15 seconds

[pliant heart]

Out of all the gacha games I HAVE PLAYED, these devs are the laziest and most incompetent ones i have seen.

[prisma haven]

eh, would encourage it more and bring comm together

worth that sacrifice

[coarse palm]

i used 6m data just now for fun LMAO

[pliant heart]

Buy the 51 dollar pack and stop complaining

[dire fossil]

its 332% SUPER VALUE

[coarse palm]

🫣

[prisma haven]

super value u say..

[dire fossil]

that's when u pivot to cosmetics daddy

[coarse palm]

yea why are we not using ai to create more skins like at least 2 every patch for every character yet im so confused, i alreayd see the use of AI in 75% of the art

[prisma haven]

before game came out that was my fighting mission i was like wat are u guys doing

delay game make skins

[dire fossil]

still need good shells for pve, and pvp, also casual players still exist that maybe arent so gungho/hardcore on the gvg and pvp

[prisma haven]

🤣

[rocky apex]

i think you should talk in memes for the next month

[pliant heart]

Thats just gonna make him more hated

[coarse palm]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-tom-jerry-food-gif-8383437 XD to us

[dire fossil]

they dont even need clothes, with exceptions

[rocky apex]

you cant reall hate the messenger at this point. litterly a puppet punching bag. or scapegoat by XD

[dire fossil]

the only time i meme on c is withthe stuff he said in his chaotic era 🙏

[wheat quail]

Eh C still say horrible things at times to people at time out of frustration.

[hollow orbit]

Other than the mention of CN this is just the same vague thing they said after the first one.

Why are there no actual details?!

If they put specifics in these things they would get feedback before stuff even goes live and can adjust. Why is this so hard to understand 🤬

[digital rapids]

Not surprised, dev log is just nothing burger but new animus teaser (again)

[dark sandal]

They just want to delay as much as they can

[dire fossil]

when he roasted people for not being able to read during the Hoyan incident omg, i was gagged

[prisma haven]

idek that one

[pliant heart]

Chris doesnt do himself any favours, i try to shift the blame towards him to the devs but chris keeps hyping things up or being sarcastic. There are a lot of frustrations within those that still play the game and have a little hope.

[rocky apex]

bruh thats the past 2.0 c he more vibe

[dark sandal]

Hope is the neighborhood spider man in etheria

[dire fossil]

to be fair, c wouldnt have to blame the devs if the devs did a better job

but idt it's blame, hes just saying like yall it's their resposibility they the ones messing qwith the game not me

[wheat quail]

They’re all a team operations or not, you take the blame together.

[prisma haven]

I mean sure if that's how u see it 🤣

[hollow orbit]

Just saw a bunch of my friends finally give up and quit over this so it’s pretty frustrating 😩

[rocky apex]

thats like yelling at a call support center hire by a big corp. litterly does nothing

[dark sandal]

Are u in the process of finding another guild in etheria currently

[dire fossil]

and this is the perfect place to say that cuz the devs dont look at the feedback thread, c is the one consolidating feedback and sending it to them so it's a win win. C gets to vent without XD knowing omg 10000 iq fr

[pliant heart]

After this patch?

[mellow hearth]

I can’t believe the community would do this to Etheria😭 🙏

[dark sandal]

Yes cause it was hyped XD

[hollow orbit]

After the dev log having nothing specific in it

[prisma haven]

yesss bro i said dev log every single issue in game fixed etheria saved sprint

all week was saying that every hour

🤣

[dire fossil]

the dev log told us diting is now a hunk

[prisma haven]

mmfgfhghhhh

[prisma haven]

I tried brother 😞

[royal plover]

The dev log is better than nothing. Hopefully they can be alittle more detailed in the future

[prisma haven]

I am trying

[pliant heart]

[prisma haven]

at least there is weight now to show them details matter a lot

[royal plover]

I know you are, its them that need to step it up

[prisma haven]

doesn't even have to be anything crazy

[pliant heart]

There was nothing in the dev logs.

[mellow hearth]

Ngl it’s funny how you have to walk on egg shells to even talk about what’s on the dev note but the boss at dna is walking around with a laptop with confidential information on the next patches showing it to anyone

[dire fossil]

um did u not see DITING

[prisma haven]

lol

[hollow orbit]

Not yet, we just picked up some new people from guilds disbanding completely.

10 guilds in the cluster down to 3 now.

[royal plover]

Nothing in the dev log??? that is a stretch. Shell lab, new Pve Mode. Stuff to look forward too. Also dreamscape reamp yay

[prisma haven]

and addresses concerns about the tie bandaid fix being the end solution

[dire fossil]

well tbf they meant nothing concrete. we know the stuff is coming but not the what, when, how, etc.

[prisma haven]

but obv some ppl knew things cus i mentioned shell forge and gvg tie stuff early

so to them its nothing now

[prisma haven]

but yes

[royal plover]

Did wish they would mention something about. lattices

[prisma haven]

needed concrete details

[pliant heart]

Blud we wasnt hoping for a new pve mode which is gonna be cage rumble 2.0

[prisma haven]

lattices i wouldnt build hype for

i just cant see that being something easy to dish out or push from my end either

[royal plover]

alot of people complain about lack of content

[pliant heart]

This is not fgo or czn where we need to be hyped for new pve content.

[mellow hearth]

Barcode’s guild?

[dire fossil]

if the new pve mode is another auto, start and forget it it's um, definitely a choice

[prisma haven]

top 5 complaints the past two months were:
gvg ties
shell rng spending 60-80 days just to get one shell
rta balancing
lack of content
lattices

dev log addresses 3 and shows hope for more development even if the details are vague

im not saying criticism isn't welcome in this dev log with the lack of detail and dates

but it is not entirely nothing

[pliant heart]

Damn the devs really want the players to play on "hope" huh.

[prisma haven]

look man

idk what u want me to reply to that

jus chill on the dooming I get ur upset but u can criticize things constructively

[pliant heart]

I know your job is tough being the cm of this game but the remaining players like me just want meaningful changes instead of clinging to hope.

[dire fossil]

the devs got kenny heated and hes chill

except for that one time

[prisma haven]

3 of the top 5 complaints in the past 2 months are meaningful to a lot of people. I would say the timing is the biggest issue on these which is why people aren't as hyped rn but CN launch was really busy and required a lot of shifting priorities and tasks with a limited team

but yes there is still a lot of room to improve, and itd be way better with more detail

[pliant heart]

Im chill as i can be which is why im still playing the game and providing my opinion cause i care about the game.

[hollow orbit]

Yeah, everything mentioned about that could just be said about Cage Rumble.

It’s already a PvE boss fight mode with rankings

[pliant heart]

The people that stopped caring already moved to other games.

[dire fossil]

dreamscape also has 1, phantom theater is basically that, union boss is basically that but in a group

[hollow orbit]

Sure would have been nice if we got some details so we could tell what the difference actually is between the new one and all these PvE boss fight modes with rankings we already have

[dark sandal]

These are just reskins of cage rumble

[dire fossil]

that's NETHER FORGE to you

[austere raptor]

You'd like a nether forging wouldnt you

[dire fossil]

whos doing the forging

[austere raptor]

Kenny

[dire fossil]

yes daddy

[pliant heart]

https://tenor.com/view/boya-fiakh-ot-dwarf-hot-forge-fiak-very-hot-boya-dwarf-arox-meme-dwarf-gif-27022672

[austere raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-ring-master-gandalf-gif-3492739

[green meadow]

Also costs $10.99 for the cage rumble recolor

[dark sandal]

Damn

[vagrant helm]

When resources are so scarce and pvp isnt balanced between playstyles, naturally people will quit

Season by season i see less turn 1 in rta. From 50% to 40% to now 30%

All just leaving cause it aint easy to restart and play another playstyle. Even reset wont save it, u cant reset the modules u farmed

[dire fossil]

if Jack was here what would u say to him

[livid lintel]

3 amber gang

[pallid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[dire fossil]

help is on the way

[random harness]

Hope new cc DPS have wound to counter those amber

As long as crit apply wound

[wheat quail]

I got one more for you

[rocky apex]

super wound. cant be clense

or if clense spread wound to other targets

[severe forum]

"How's that CN revenue going?"

[calm garden]

cant wait for the -50% revenue end of the month once again

[lone wagon]

Seeing this announcement made me so happy devs once again are showing you they don't give a single fuck about the few of you that still play this slop but hey next patch everything will be fixed trust guys tomorrow gacha revenue is going to be the cherry on top 🍒

[pearl berry]

This dev log is straight up disrespectful and they took a week to prepare a dev log that only summarized changes up until now and gave little to no insight into future updates. What a pile of shit

[restive stream]

Well technically anything Chris said is technically not true until it's in there. Most people didn't know about the shell forge. That union thing tho my expectations were low, but that took it too a very big low

[pearl berry]

The amount of time they take to address problems is insane, they might as well stop trying at all. In fact I think that's one of their strategies, waiting until everyone who's not satisfied drops the game

[glacial verge]

Guys, just remember it's a marathon not a sprint. :kappa:

[restive star]

Funny how a 1 month old player are telling 5 month players that we are wrong with our complaints.
But yeah, lack of skill from me to still miss 2 units and still can't get 4 shells i want, no problem

[mellow hearth]

He just knows better

[restive star]

He probably knows better than the 30k people who left discord since June 5th

[wooden folio]

One unit cost 360 usd at least to skill up fully :]. I personally feel that they are not bother to come out with better value packs and just make every packs 2 to 3x the value of what it should be. They just make every resources in the game cost so much more. Also this is the first gacha game i played that the 98% of the packs does not come with crystals that u can use for recharge energy. So only way for u to get crystals is to buy raw crystal packs. Lamo

Shell stats rerolling is a bs. U can farm 7k of energy and cant even roll a 20 speed. Whats the point of getting the shell and u keep rolling blue? And u always roll 30% atk on a artisan and 30% def on a count. Not sure if i am the only one experiencing.. but shell stat rolling is quite rigged imo. They should just make a pity that once u hit red stats, every roll is a red stat outcome too. It can cost more but i dont think they will do it, this is onr of the ways to make u lose your resources quickly so u can spend more to recharge and u will continue to do so as they make it so hard for u to get the stat u want.

[rocky apex]

they will down the road sell an item to transfer shell passive

[wooden lichen]

Barcode is a pussy

[dark sandal]

Damn bro quit

[dire fossil]

cc having issue filling up a 30 slot union is such a skill issue lol, people literally have dreams being closer to their fave cc

esp if the game in their eyes only has minor issues so it should be SUPER FUN

[pliant heart]

He cant blame the game cause he created a macho man image for himself

[high lagoon]

you nailed it

[dire fossil]

he really acting like ER wouldve been in a better spot if the community stayed quiet and everybody kumbayah-ed

like clearly he wouldnt have stayed if dude cleared inferno 1 month after everyone else lol, he wouldve lost it at the suprise buffed version

[pliant heart]

Fr u nailed it, this is a pvp and pve game, how is the community affecting him when he can idk just not open discord and not engage in topics about the game.

[dire fossil]

or literally just make a video showing ER positively

he'd attract people and potentially nab an ER sponsorship for the future like it's a winwin

[pliant heart]

[clear star]

Game is saved guys, only global on red 🤣🤣

[dire fossil]

5.5m dam

[severe forum]

CN and JP launched on September 25, 2025. If the revenue from 31 days of October is less than 5 days of September, I'd be seriously worried lol

[dire fossil]

they marathoning

[pliant heart]

Didnt etheria global open up with 7 mil or am i tripping
So its a huge loss of revenue and the devs still dont give a shit

[severe forum]

Yup. Despite them blowing millions on advertising in CN and JP, both servers literally pulled in less money than NA/EU did lol

[pliant heart]

And some peeps are way too delusional thinking this game has no problems like barcode

[mellow hearth]

Nah game is saved. Community tried to sabotage the greatness. But greatness cannot be stopped

[pliant heart]

Idk when the devs gonna wakeup and start fixing shit, they had a great game in hand so its sad to see the decline.

[clear star]

Trust, next patch 🤣🤣

[pliant heart]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[austere raptor]

Well hes been saying from the start that the game doesnt have any "major issues" and everything players complaining about is just skill issue. He has to stand by his image

Easy to just blame everyone else and say he quitting not because he lost interest but because he cant fill a union. His image stays intact and he can cleanly detach himself from this game

[zinc knot]

my brother in christ he's a cc, you want him to ignore his own comments section?

tbh barcode is partially right, this community genuinely is kinda dogshit and spends way too much time dogpiling with half-baked arguments. barcode made loads of criticisms about the game before, but because he wasn't super negative all the time suddenly he hated criticism?

the only place I'd disagree with him seriously is that while this community is awful, XD's direction is even more awful and has played a meaningful role in making the community worse

[vagrant helm]

Bro is also part of the problem tho

"Theres no major issues with the game"

Has he looked at feedback threads

People spent 150k gems max refreshing to not get a desired shell

[zinc knot]

he's a true marathoner ye

but there are probably quite a few of quiet players like that who are willing to endure absolute shite game direction

[vagrant helm]

Yea na i doubt problems like these woulda been fixed if the playerbase didnt push so hard for them

[zinc knot]

who said don't push? we've been pushing for six months straight basically

[vagrant helm]

Read my statement again properly, i never said we didnt push for it.

I said they wouldnt have been addressed if we did not push for them

[zinc knot]

read my statement again properly, it's a figure of speech lol. I'm saying no one disagrees with that sentiment in the slightest

[vagrant helm]

Sure sure😂

[zinc knot]

what I am saying is that there is a silly and pernicious culture in these feedback threads of misrepresenting people's arguments, reducing them to nonsense, and then pretending as if we are the real warriors fighting for ER's progress and salvation

if we locked these feedback threads immediately after submission and were allowed to just upvote the most agreed upon feedback, it'd ironically be much better and healthier than these circlejerks

XD will still ignore 90% of it regardless

[vagrant helm]

Theres a thing called "suggestions" if u havent seen

[zinc knot]

I know, it doesn't really function

[vagrant helm]

Well remgoku has been actively looking at feedback threads, comments under them, so the comments do matter

and he had been pushing for changes, so ill believe in him

[zinc knot]

I think he does a great job but I think it's pretty apparent he can't do much, and that 90% of the feedback that gets pushed up is triaged and relegated to some "Do Later" pile. But I respect the optimism

[west ferry]

[pliant heart]

[vagrant helm]

Well without him we pretty wouldnt be getting shell forge, our xiada event back in rotation after so long etc. Just to name a few

A ton of stuff still has issues, but thanks to him, some stuff is actually getting response. So im not sure what ur getting at. A lot of sht which were deemed normal wouldnt have been implemented if not for him actively engaging the devs

So theres still quite a huge impact

[pallid canopy]

[dapper reef]

[silver mason]

100%. Am what I eat. But thank you for proving my point.

Ive given tons of criticism to improve the game. The instant gratification generation from this gacha community was the biggest problem. Play a game, whine, And quit, within a 1 month of no changes.

I literally said the devs have lots to improve, but there is no major flaws. The game has the potential to be the best PvP Gacha game out. But between this gacha community, and the devs, thats why I quit.

Ive been one of the few people that has stayed positive about this game. And tried to fix things. And I did community events to bring people together. . The majority of , which yes, I blame , CCs, Forum Warriors, and negative degenerates are the issue, along with the Devs who also played a major part in it. But the majority was the community.

[pliant heart]

[restive star]

Yeah sure, the community is always the problem. Skipping the fact there is real problems isn't gonna change it exists. There are flaws, since day 1, that's why we're trying our best to talk about it in feedback. Having conflict while doing it doesn't mean the entire community is toxic.
For example, they know since EWS that farming + rolling stats for shells are two big issues, and yet the only answer is "Shell forge".
THE problem that main issues share is time we have to put in the game, be it module farming, shell farming, Ethernet rally, ember trek, Fearless arena....
If you're feeling okay with the game, then keep playing it for all we care, that's a good point for you if you can do abstraction of all this.

Yes this game has a very good potential, but having a patch every 3 weeks (with banner) for the first release year when you having critical issues (burning your player base IS a critical issue) is quite concerning.

Tbh i don't know you, don't really follow any youtube CC cause i prefer to talk with union mates mainly, so i don't know what burnt you truely, but please don't blame others being concerned about a game they love.

[silver mason]

Ive already expressed those same shell issues months ago. I also agree and stated the devs need to make improvements. But not backing up on what I said. The majority of the issue was the gacha community.

Its not everyone, so please if you arent someone that constantly whines about it, dont include yourself as a part of that. But unfortunately, we all are part of the gacha community. You cant take things literally and think its everyone. That should be a given. Dont take it personal if you arent the one doing it.

I dont blame the people concerned about the game they love. I was one of those people, concerned about the game I love. I blame the negative degenerates who have no respect for others, who have Big Keyboard Small Finger complexes, and who does not know how to create constructive criticism. Those people are the ones that ruined the game and left in the last 3 months.

[restive star]

How could people would ruin the game if devs don't really read what we share here, that's what i don't understand.
But everyone has it's own experience here so it's okay.
Have fun for the next games buddy

[eager crater]

I just want to say when I was struggling to do inferno hoyan, your guide was the only one that worked for me, thank you goat

[wheat quail]

Reading some of these comments is like ya expect shell reforge to fix the shell issue.

At best, it would just make it less painful. Looking at Module forge, people either claim their piece day 1 or completely skip over it because it doesn’t really guarantee you a good piece either.

I honestly am not putting any high expectations on the shell reforge.

[wise compass]

there's a lot of ppl who 5/5/5 every unit they built and get mad when it gets nerfed. it's not healthy, it's also the reason why they (dev team) don't nerf units until the end of season even if it's broken af. could be no nerf at all cause nerf = reset event

[wheat quail]

Please push for nerfs. Not pushing for nerfs is encouraging a game of constant power creep and imbalance, and we’re already experiencing the early version of that in Raymerry.

[restive star]

balancing need nerf, only downside is not willing to release reset event once in a while

[wise compass]

that's the point, this community is something else. they (those "community" that I mean) probably has maxed raymerry and will get mad if they nerf her

[restive star]

because without that you prob won't be able to perform well for the current season since she's the last LD of this one

[silver mason]

The shell forge is going to be exactly like the module forge. Crap event.

[wooden lichen]

This is the biggest pile of dogshit I have ever read. Your “retirement post” states that part of the reason why you quit because you can’t get enough people to fill a union. Imagine those same issues happening in a top guild, and trying to maintain a top rank with the remaining issues in gvg. And you’re out here saying the game has no major issues. Nice bait

[wise compass]

8 lattices is enough, really. i couldn't find any unit that doesn't work without 555. if they want to max it 12 lattices then go for it but at least be ready for the nerf. the problem is they don't want their 555 units gets nerfed

[silver mason]

Read the whole sentence. I know reading is hard for alot of gacha players.

[restive star]

you want 5/4/4, 8 isn't going to cut it

[silver mason]

Like I said in that specific sentence that you are only stating half of, there is alot of things they need to fix.

[wooden lichen]

Think about it, I know being a boomer gives you degenerative brain issues. It’s not instant gratification we are asking for for these gvg issues, we’ve been waiting 3 months for those fixes

[wise compass]

sure, again it's their choice. the problem is they get mad if it gets nerfed cause lattice issue

[silver mason]

Yes I have brain issues for sure. Again, I know the first thing you can do is talk down to people on the internet. Thank you again for proving my point.

[wise compass]

what I mean is if you want to build more than 1 unit just don't go all in, u can 551 one and 511 the other one

[wheat quail]

Honestly, nerfs should be a given in any competitive pvp game. People should invest knowing anything can be changed on the flip of a coin.

I know that brings the question of “Why invest at all?” Because it helped you climb for the current season, I guess?

[wooden lichen]

Yeah baiting the community by calling them shit and being a pussy about the repercussions. It’s why I called you a pussy in the first place. Literally just leave, I don’t even know why you’re still here lmfao

[restive star]

yeah sure, but a reset event every end season is a thing, other games are doing that and people still pay. You don't have to give a whole box reset too tbh. A RTA season is what, 60 days ? so like 3 different banner-ish, nothing wrong to give 1 free reset and 2 crystals one when you have between 4 and 6 new SSR during the same time.

[wise compass]

idk man i think it'll hurt their revenue

[wheat quail]

Also I think asking for seasonal resets will indirectly impact the lattice economy and possibly make it worse. If you can freely redistribute your lattices after every season, they will just put on a lid on it and hand out less lattices.

Don’t think we wanna go that route

[mellow hearth]

Their revenue is already going down. Cn couldn’t get the same as the global launch and global launch is just tanking month over month

[silver mason]

1. Never called anyone a pussy
2. Never called anyone shit.
3. Stop taking it personal if it doesnt pertain to you.
4. We are all a part of the gacha community. When I say "the community", it doesnt mean every single person. Again. We are all a part of it.
5. I never said I was quitting for good, thats why Im still here. I said Im taking a break. Or may end up quitting. Again...reading is a fundamental skill.

[restive star]

Their revenue just crave skins they don't want to give for some reason, they could already make millions with it

[wheat quail]

Yeli skin didn’t do that hot tbh if they’re “testing the waters”

[wooden lichen]

This doesn’t look like you’re taking a break my guy. You’re such a fucking whiner, all you had to do in your post was say that you were taking a break from the game, not provide a whole sob story blaming the community for your departure. If you don’t mean for shit to come off as a personal attack then don’t attack anyone in public posts you make.

[restive star]

Kinda boring to see this kind of message buddy

[silver mason]

You can assume whatever you want. Just like I can write whatever the fuck I want on my channel.

[wooden lichen]

You’re the one that interacted with me on a public forum, don’t let the door hit you on the way out

[silver mason]

I interacted with you??? When you call me a pussy? Sounds like you interacted with me first by writing my name. Again, keep proving my point.

[wooden lichen]

You really expected to blame all your problems on the community and not expect anyone to speak up huh? You’re saying you were taking a break but your post has shit like “see you in the next game” and “what mobile games do you suggest”? Is this a bait or did you actually forget what you wrote? Why the fuck would a specific part of a community make you want to quit a game, if you have your own YouTube community still supporting you, unless you actually didn’t like the game anymore? If you don’t like the game then just fucking say so instead of blaming the community for all your issues. And before you say shit like “uhh my community is part of the issue hurt durr”, remember that you literally asked this so called community to join you in the next game in your YouTube post. Nice bait.

[restive star]

You can go in pm guys tbh

[silver mason]

Here. Ill change what i said. I took a break because of you. Better?

Whatever makes you happy, since you feel so angry and personally attacked for some weird reason. But again, thank you for reminding me and proving my point.

[wooden lichen]

This is actually hilarious. Blames the community, expects no repercussions, then after receiving backlash says “ah yes look at this my post was right all along”. This is literally a bait and a self fulfilling post? But honestly w/e, hope you find that magical community you’re looking for, looks like the CoD community would be perfect for a master ragebaiter like you.

[pallid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmmmmm-hmmmmmm-hmmmm-hm-hmm-gif-2339932555530048784

[silver mason]

Thank you, I expected it by the way.

[dire fossil]

this has yet to happen because they only units that have gotten directly nerfed post launch were SRs (kazu, sania got bugfixed ig but it's basically a nerf) lol

[dapper reef]

Mod forge is actually a pretty good event. It would be better if you could spend essence to continue rolling a crafted mod to +9 before claiming it but otherwise it represents tons of stamina value. Shell forge should be the same (better if it let you roll a guaranteed red passive or something)

[rustic walrus]

ahahahahah
they are never giving us passive selection in shell reforge

[dapper reef]

I know, because they're terrible people. They're gacha game devs, they have no souls. That's just what it would take to make it a great event, to me*

[dry hull]

bro you take your meds today?

[hard pivot]

[hidden wing]

Interesting new goodbye message. Gacha players love their dramatic goodbyes. Cant even copy pasta this one 😔

[coarse ravine]

[green meadow]

You know damn well the shell forge is going to make us "roll" for the matrix, lock and roll just like module, cant have anything without rng attached lol

[hollow orbit]

Because we asked them to give us actual skins instead of just recolors.

And then they gave us a pink recolor…..

[dire fossil]

they should've gave more details abouy shell forge. we know how it works (since it's like module forge according to the post) but module forge also didn't let us make inferno modules sooooo

[hidden wing]

Im not interested in devs spending time on skins.
Build content. Content that makes peeps wanna spend cause game is good

[west ferry]

best i can do is halloween checkin event

hyperlinker skin included so stop yapping

[hidden wing]

Go make some lore videos for content @west ferry

[west ferry]

im retired

[hidden wing]

Where's your long goodbye message?

[west ferry]

u don't deserve my message...

[hidden wing]

[chilly pumice]

good my fragile aching heart could NOT take it anymore if another content creator ruins MY game and MY fun with their criticisms 🥀

[wheat quail]

Now we wait for Car6’s ER retirement too 🙏🏻

[west ferry]

reading the above messages reallyputs things into perspective

[west ferry]

seanb is the last airbender now

[jovial sail]

Im pretty sure everyones quitting but revenue going up. CN is the last airbender now

[hidden wing]

Maybe the silent majority is growing because we finally losing the loud complaining minority. Its pretty good game compared to these new drops past 2 months

[jovial sail]

Most of the casuals dont care about pvp because they arent doing it in a pvp focused gacha. They realize that it makes them more money so they are moving away from it. Hence why they arent fixing GvG, RTA meta, etc

[dry hull]

here we go again...

[green meadow]

cage rumble endgame inc

[west ferry]

just make union boss one boss only with rotating boss monthly
and then put guild leaderboard so people have a reason to stay in guild outside of the slog that union war is

with lattice frags are rewards or something idk

gotta cater to casuals/pve players in this day and age

[thin dagger]

They really need to rework this content, it's a chore. Having a system like 7ds would be more interesting.

[mellow hearth]

It’s not going up. It’s just the launch month for cn and jp. If you look at the numbers global is down

[pliant heart]

From 7 mil at launch with global now down to 700k in reveue. But lets blame the community and not the devs for this generational fumble.

[mellow hearth]

its cause the toxic community aint forking over their wallets

[pliant heart]

Yeah, goddamn this toxic community not willing to spend money on this game with no flaws.

[mellow hearth]

dw bro. in 7 years, they will come to realize the greatness they were missing out on

it may even take 10 to match summoners war. But we will obtain perfection in their absence

[pliant heart]

[pliant heart]

Remember its a marathon not a race.

[austere raptor]

Goddamn shit community. If only everyone was willing to bend over backwards and fork out their hard earned cash, we would have full unions!!!!

[severe forum]

It's technically up only because September numbers only contained the first 5 of CN/JP launch. The October total is the first real total. November numbers will give the full picture. But the fact that CN + JP launch revenue is less than Global launch revenue is not a good look...

[wheat quail]

What ya’ll mean? There’s nothing to spend on in the game! Revenue doesn’t show shit about the game’s health,

Etheria’s White Knights (probably)

[hollow orbit]

Are there even any White Knights left?

[wheat quail]

I think they changed their name to the Silent Majority. I’m not sure anymore tbh, I’ve been touching grass.

Game is saved ya’ll, they listened.

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxUN-oygCZLtV6UuUYs5wWSCBk6rfOqwnf?si=p59qb0zRwduWx27q

[dark sandal]

There are three guys and I don't even see sembu now. A days

[mellow hearth]

Endangered species but yes. Still kicking! Ready to save Etheria!

[dire fossil]

yis

[slim flax]

I agree

[pallid canopy]

just talk about reset he comes out

[shell mauve]

cooked his dumbass holy

[cloud scroll]

Would read again

[last flame]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[vagrant helm]

Bro already left summit arena after getting nahor banned 100% of the time😢

Hopefully 2 new CC units will bring the big man back

[scarlet horizon]

Seanb gone = Riptheria restart

[vagrant helm]

Man i love his vids, first time seeing him express that much frustration. Feels bad

[scarlet horizon]

Dude actually tries off meta units and have fun

[hollow orbit]

I'm sure we'd all like to try off meta units.

But where lattice? 🤷‍♂️

[vagrant helm]

Yea and with how broken all the LD banners are and the powercreep, you basically need to save lattice for every LD banner

Its quite concerning, if they dont nerf anything at all, the only way to is to buff weaker units and keep going up. I wonder what kind of crazy kit we will have in a few months which will make plume and raymerry look average

[west ferry]

I agree, i’m sick of using Mika everywhere

[vagrant helm]

Mika is in etheria restart?😂

[west ferry]

Buff Luke

[vagrant helm]

Tbh renoa aint the best pick out there, but holy crap i enjoy using her way more than haru + khalipe

Just so fun

[west ferry]

My main draw to etheria was i thought they’d do nerfs into reset events, instead of just powercreep.. unlike the other rta games

but.. we all know reset event is a censored term - so no nerfs, best i can do is a red shadow print

[vagrant helm]

[lone wagon]

My main draw to ER was everyone saying devs will listen to the community and improve the game based on feedback but sadly I didn't last long enough on the marathon to see that happening

[lone wagon]

There are but they stay in general chat cuz they have no good arguments to speak in feedback threads

[lofty sun]

Same

[thin imp]

Idk how they can have a competitive vision without nerfs

[rocky apex]

I imagine it be something like this each seasson. 1st week find the new meta. 2nd week find the counter to the new meta. (fun stuff), week 3-6 type in feedback about how meta sucks.

[calm garden]

are we even reaching s2 is the question

with this -35% revenue every month idk

[rocky apex]

I don't know we got a solid 4 more months into the game i think. The game last longer then 4 months so far. I havent played a game till eos before. kind of wondering how it feels like.

[tawdry hollow]

Amen.

[jovial sail]

As one of the games more public white knights. The devs are 100% to blame. CMs making promises and saying things are coming when they aren't. Devs saying they would balance the game and we've had 1 nerf in the game to a character specifically. The community is right to be outraged. We have been getting strung along waiting for something and we've been getting nothing but slop as they sell us another SSS p5 555 required character for the meta fix we wanted it

[mellow hearth]

I like your font

[restive star]

It's okay, loosing 1k people per week on discord isn't a big deal... right ?

[calm garden]

ive finally quit too,gl to the 2 developers at xd and the 300 ai powered workers,genuinely curious to see what they will do this month to not have another 35% less revenue (probably nothing)

[shell mauve]

think the obvious next step is the spanish dub no?

[austere raptor]

Si

[thin imp]

Nooo my fellow xiada enjoyer 🙁

[coarse palm]

brooo pls dont quit man :/

[calm garden]

xiada is too shit to keep me playing this game

[coarse palm]

plss bro keep playing 🙏

[mellow hearth]

Dw. All they did was clear out inactive people

[coarse palm]

@prisma haven hey C sorry for ping, just sad seeing state of game for global and playerbase/community, do you know if we are getting patch notes today or like if there are any updates on dev side to alleviate or address some more of our concerns regarding players leaving and what not?

[vagrant helm]

Wsnt the dev notes last week

I think patch notes shld be next week before banner comes out right

[green meadow]

Gachas are tough man, theres not much you can do to keep ppl around once it starts feeling bad, like mmos if your main sucks build another and play your main when its good again, you cant do that in a pvp gacha, cant just pivot an account you've spent 6 months and all your resources on, and once powercreep gets involved it all goes to shit quickly

[coarse palm]

yea but the dev notes were kinda trash and vague, im sure they have stuff planned but i wish they can be more detailed, like hire me as the translator or something

[green meadow]

That doesnt help either, radio silence from devs besides a once in awhile nothing burger post, and it starts feeling like its time to move on

[coarse palm]

yea a lot of ppl have this feeling its sad, like i kinda miss ppl debating about t1 vs t2, its just kinda quiet in here now. this was a pattern of another XD game, Flash Party, they just have super active environment in JP/CN and its starting to feel like this is the scale of etheria now, although this game should be thriving as a new RTA game.

which is why i was telling C that speed is the name of the game here, im just not sure why XD is fumbling like this RN

[green meadow]

Yea should be a little more sense of urgency

[prisma haven]

im saying the same things but I don't think the teama is big enough at all to support the kind of speed we need

and CN took a ton of focus for a bit

all team priorities were shifting around constantly

seems like theyre aligning now to pick up the pace but

already too late for a lot of people

there are still a lot of people who remain, but many are in maintenance rn just waiting for the next balance season bc theyre tired of t2

but also devs dont want an op speedfest t1

so there is quite the battle ahead I hope they do it well

there are other things in the works too though, i hope they can be announced soon enough

[coarse palm]

is it just cooked for global then? :/

and i think way more people are concerned about lattices than the balance

[west ferry]

im more personally concerned that the blazers lost to the lakers with ar, luka, and bron sitting out

[wheat quail]

Still find it odd that a CM has absolutely nothing he can share to the community. The CM is literally the middle man between the community and the devs and nothing…

[coarse palm]

i was tricked into a tiktok post about him giving a speech into retirement

[west ferry]

ai go crazy bro, i saw an ai video of lebron announcing retirement and i had to do a doubletake

[prisma haven]

no for general development and rta

if you expect a bunch more lattices and stuff yes you're cooked

because thats just unrealistic

[prisma haven]

u need to lower ur expectations no matter what game ur talking about this just isn't reality for any cm

lol

no cm is tlaking about development and sharing stuff going on behind the scenes every day and every week

[vagrant helm]

Na remgoku been trying his best, its just that the people at the top have the final say

He already delivers our feedback. All we can do is pray they respond to it

[prisma haven]

yea i dont think he's blaming me

I just dont have permission to share things that aren't finalized

[vagrant helm]

Ok🫡

[coarse palm]

i think it's just really lopsided because with the release of the game outside of global, all lattices were just spent into things like liliam/yeli which can autoclear every pve content, while most of global were stuck latticing shadow sania, rilmocha, or rosa to clear content, like there's such a clear disparity

also not even bringing up the fact that they are avoiding nerfs to avoid a reset event is just.. unsettling for a lot of the global players which is why you can even see yourself its been so quiet in the RTA cord

[prisma haven]

yeah I don't know if they plan to nerf or not yet

I haven't asked

but im sharing the frustrations

ill push it to jack as much as I can on that one

[coarse palm]

it would really be helpful if we can have that hypertalk podcast thing again with content creators liek seanb + samool to talk with the devs and tell them ideas/ask questions, like both of them rta and samool especially was top 200 so he knows the meta

[prisma haven]

i personally think the players just need some word from jack and the devs directly

that wouuld have more imipact than a podcast with creators

bc they are just gonna ask for stuff that isnt in development yet or cant be done and then jack and devs will have to consider making promises for stuff that might take a really long time etc

better to talk about what they are planning rn and the vision

bc the vision has not been communicated

[coarse palm]

honestly i think both are needed at the rate at which this is going sadly :/, the talk between players and devs allow for a bridge from the community to them, and it allows specificity to be shared. this way, players know that specific information is getting across to them, it isn't going to be a method of interrogation because hoenstly we have like hundreds of questions we want to know (i want to know why the decision of inconsistent and abhorrently long delays in communication are occuring)

becuase the longer somethign remains unknown, the more people doompost about it (for a good reason), which leads to more people seeing this, especially newer players, which leads to just a domino effect of negativity, which you have seen yourself live

[prisma haven]

limited capacity team, cn launch requiring tons of focus for 2 months, constant shifting priorities

thats why theyve had delays

they originally were going to communicate that in the dev log but I guess someone on the team was too worried about putting anything "negative" in there

[coarse palm]

how come there isnt an announcement for that in this discord (there are like 3 announcemnet channels)? i think global players jsut feel like everything is planend for CN, which is why the meme of we were just beta testers for 5 months is a thing

[rose hill]

Yeah they gave t2 all the tools to handle any situation…
CC? Here are reaper and alicorn shell with Aya and Slyph.
Cleaver? BB and Amber will shut them down!

[prisma haven]

new units coming and then ss2 balance coming

idk

not much more i can say on that

amber is fried

[rose hill]

Better be! That ice needs to be Olaf in winter!!!

[pallid canopy]

yeah because dev note was lackluster and didn't answer anything related to the gvg draw situation that everyone was waiting for

[prisma haven]

i mean players have drawn out what they want as a solution and ive also given them exactly what they need so idk im not too worried ab it

[trim frost]

we just need 2nd masiah

[prisma haven]

its been pretty unanimous

[rose hill]

But yeah @prisma haven 90% of my complaints will be fixed if Amber gets “fixed” so many stupid interactions with it 😮‍💨

[prisma haven]

yea

[prisma haven]

u and many others

[trim frost]

amber must nerf
wound is not the answer

[coarse palm]

the real question everyone wants to know is, will ss2 balance include character nerfs so we can get a reset

[prisma haven]

yep

i know

we'll see.

[rose hill]

Oh an Massiah needs a buff! I did an S3 with atk buff… all their support was at 40%+ HP. Even Liliam survived 😭 @prisma haven

[prisma haven]

i will try my best to push for it

[tribal rapids]

The yeli disrespect

[prisma haven]

lol massiah buff that's interesting to hear

💀

idk ab that one

[trim frost]

yelli fua scam bro 😂

[rocky apex]

mass genderbend skin

[rose hill]

Well that’s more a joke but this just shows how strong BB is 🤣

[coarse palm]

thank u for answering btw, always good chatting w u, also i hope the union gvg thing becomes more competitive and harder to tie or just fix tie system.

quite frankly hoping gvg becomes more competitive bc my friend/co-lead who was top 50 veteran from e7 and was in a top30 guild in e7 (sister of rank 1 guild) said e7 gvg was much more complex and had more interaction and he was hoping they copied from strats from e7

etheria's downfall will be that they do not learn from SW and E7, im rly hoping they just outright steal stuff so ppl can have an incentive to play the newer RTA game

[rose hill]

Like an atk buffed Massiah S3 can’t even bring healers below 40% 🤣

[prisma haven]

yeah i think theyre wanting to revamp a lot of gvg stuff other than just the tie system things but i gotta get more info

[coarse palm]

like PVE is whatever, it's really easy to get ppl hooked onto PVE by just adding some free story by ai and pay some writer and what not, but a lot of people stay in these games for GVG and RTA (obviously with balanced rewards like E7/SW, like legit jsut tell the devs to copy their handouts and scale it to our metrics)

[thin imp]

Messiah is a defense pentration unit Is the main thing, plus law reduces aoe damage by 60% i think. Theses healers are on hp. However the current state of messiah is that he has no unique identity differentiating between cleaving defense scalers and hp scalers

[thin imp]

This is the issue with refusing to nerf. Like surely we can't agree that messiah is healthy for the game and then to combat this 2nd messiah they would need to release a t2 unit that would compeltely dismantle messiah and now ur messiah becomes power creeped and would feel worse than a messiah nerf alongside some t2 units nerfs and like rosa rilmocha buffs.

[flint warren]

My most desired balance changes for SS2

1. Amber gets taken out back with a shotgun

2. Yeli buffs. Please god help her why is she so much more pathetic than the other post-release Apex units

3. Just keep buffing stuff. Im not a fan of direct character nerfs outside of SRs and no SRs are currently out of line

[prisma haven]

the polarizing opinions on buffs/nerfs are interesting

it makes me not really know what to do and just kinda put my faith in the balancing team to figure out what they think is best

[restive star]

try to correlate that with spendings, it may have something to it, plus the fact that reset event apparently isn't planified anytime

[hollow orbit]

The balancing team just released Raymerry. They’re lost

[flint warren]

Raymerry would feel more manageable if Amber was a balanced shell

[restive star]

thing is, nerf is usually a healthy way to maintain balance in an environment, but with the lattice economy people will obviously be very upset about any nerf

[flint warren]

They didnt even offer an SR-exclusive reset event when Kazuyo was nerfed which sets a bad precedent for if they wish to nerf animus in the future, especially SSR animus

[prisma haven]

this was planned well in advance

i alr commented on it

from the beginning devs didnt want the game to be a t1 speedfest so they planned a lot of development for t2 but

because they planned too much in advance

[rose hill]

Balancing can be very tricky… the more complex synergies are the more complex it gets. But then again their are real obvious outliers that needs no synergy like Tiamat S1, Amber, Ray Ray out of turn S3. Some say Mass damage but I find it fine - he can’t one tap any BB and they don’t even need to have 2-3 hp/def right side modules to survive. Then again I might just be a biased T1 cleaver 🤣

[prisma haven]

we get these struggle periods until they balance the two out

[prisma haven]

are people struggling with sr lattices?

genuine question

I never found myself struggling with them

[rose hill]

Nope - I am about to hit 100 🤣

[prisma haven]

yeah most obvious thing is amber rn

a lot of balancing will depend on that

[graceful crescent]

is this post the one that got amber nerfed?

@flint warren stick to dna

[flint warren]

Stick to cdn

[thin imp]

its not mass damage thats the issue, its his kit with invincinibility def pen, passive ignore. It becoesm every hard to even pwoer creep this. if he has those things, his damage output should be lower than yeli or rosa even.

[green meadow]

this really is it in a nutshell bro, like were in constant limbo, at least communicate the direction were going ya know, even if i dont agree with the path its reassuring there is a path, like even talking to you makes alot of ppl feel better and heard, if the ship starts sinking people want to hear from the captain directly

[thin imp]

I do want amber nerfed, but i think with it being nerfed there may be things that need to be monitored like messiah 0 counterplay, or tiamat becoming the weakest bruiser, etc

[green meadow]

gdi vanny can you go one thread without mentioning fking massiah

[thin imp]

no 🙂

I want rosa batsby rilmocha yeli to be viable cleavers without being compared to massiah.

[dire fossil]

u forgot the og cleaver LIAN

[thin imp]

raymerry just lian but has 50x more than her xDD

[severe forum]

I'm very curious to know how much overlap/difference there is between the CN feedback and Global feedback now that CN has experienced the game for a month. Putting a pause on development to focus on launching a new region makes sense, but only if the existing regions are in a "good spot". If not, you just end up compounding the issues by opening up new regions that experience the same issues and quickly lose retention of players in said new regions while continuing to bleed in existing regions.

[rose hill]

Who? 🤣

[rose hill]

Probably still good responds. They are still in a better “honeymoon phase” since some global issues were fixed already.

[dire fossil]

the best unit in the game, so good ER forces u to upgrade her unless u wanna get locked out of 2 pages worth of quests

[dapper reef]

There are pictures of reviews on the app stores of them saying the exact same things we do lol

[rose hill]

Well… XD better get stuff right with next season balances!!!

[rose hill]

So many already counters Mass though. Vero, Amber, Healers with LH, HP-scalers, and BB. Only time Massiah works in the current meta is if he gets to do 2 S3 uninterrupted (unlikely with so many cutting mechanism) or you had no healer to heal up to 100%/Ambers.

[velvet radish]

when you start with vero as counter to mass xD

[thin imp]

Passive ignored
Amber nerfed
LH healers need to speed check the beyo. Assuming ur dps isnt already fking dead.

[rose hill]

I mean if you let beyo, mass, and Tsu through… that’s more a drafting mistake. It’s like facing against Tiamat (Amber), Ray Ray (Amber), and FU/Red Chiaki with Massiah 🤷

[thin imp]

Ray tsuki messiah beyo nahor. Who do I ban

[hidden wing]

Why didnt you lock beyo?

Lock beyo, ban nahor. You won.
Especially if you drafted hein.

[hasty horizon]

they needa play my boy yang handsome

[hasty horizon]

beyo

[rose hill]

Who did you pre ban? If he is FP it should be Ray Ray or Massiah if your team is mainly def-scaler.
Let’s assume that draft went through: I will ban beyo. If I have a good t1 then Tsu.

[hasty horizon]

actually maybe tsuki actually

depends on their spd tuning

[rose hill]

Yeah if you have some spd Tsu is a good target and draft plume

Plume, Mio, Freya, Hein, and Obol or Plume, Aya, Tia, FU, and maybe Borne for T2

[thin imp]

I mean im assuming from the pov of me not knowing what my opponent will play and can standard draft. Surely im not forced to preban messiah every game.

[rose hill]

I mean Massiah is a pretty common ban if your pool is a lot of bruisers. Ray Ray is probably the most banned right now. I mean a fast bulwark Lilith (not uncommon) might single handily do the trick.

[pliant heart]

New rgb units aint gonna do shit with no lattice
The devs just shot themselves in the foot with making lattice so scarce. I cant even think about using a new unit unless they a ld cause thats where all my lattice go.

[restive stream]

i can realistically build about 2 units a month atm with how much lattice they give and thats with me min maxing units, which is quite unreasonable lol

[pliant heart]

Yeah for a rta focused game that is unacceptable

So when i see some guy tell me to take inspiration from top players i think they forget about the lack of lattice especially if you dont buy lattice and battle pass.

[restive stream]

i mean i have lattices from whaling i dont buy everything but i get some, and even then its not enough

[pliant heart]

Only Rta cord? Its been quiet af in rta ingame. Ive been facing against kekker who is way outside my point bracket three times now and facing the same guy 5 times in a row.

[pliant heart]

Some whales here who only invest in t2 cant understand that and think its enough for everyone while saying they have enough to steal t1 picks and invest in them.

[dire fossil]

also i dont really get the really sudden push of lattice packs in the shop. like yea it's how they make money (even tho cosmetics are a thing) but, if the goal is to let cn/jp/kr catch up so they can participate in merged RTA or in the big name tournaments, then they are always gonna be behind global whales that have 4 months of progress + they can buy all the future lattice packs

[dire fossil]

kenny for EWS???

[pliant heart]

More like battle royal to see who lasts playing this game lol. I'll have to stop my marathon if they dont nerf amber next season but i want them to release 2 broken t2 rgb units so i can get rid of my copium for this game.

[mellow hearth]

It’s going to be funny if these supposed t1 units end up t2

[green meadow]

Lmao probably. Itll be like hp scaling and ramping cc like Lilith with off healing on a passive or some shit like aya, gonna be perfect t2 cc units on reaper with bb

[dark sandal]

If that happens u will go here

[green meadow]

"iS eThErIa SaVeD??"

[mellow hearth]

Yeah. Did you see the revenue report?

[dry hull]

yall come here everyday and talk about the same stuff lol.

[green meadow]

I mean we ain't actually playing right now so were else we gonna pvp

[mellow hearth]

Grind duet night abyss

[dry hull]

its just funny. i played competitive league of legends for a long time and even there you dont see this much passion when people dont like the meta

[mellow hearth]

Cause there is a skill issue. And everyone knows it

[green meadow]

Well in league you can just pick something else to play, i cant exactly just pick a p5 5/5/5 tiamat out my ass

[mellow hearth]

Should have spent more money then! Be the savior Etheria needs!

[dry hull]

well tbh in league if you arent feeling the meta you just put the game down for a couple months.

[green meadow]

I did! I just spent on the wrong units apparently

[mellow hearth]

Damn. Could you spend on the wrong units in league?

[dire fossil]

sterrby would tell u just be more creative

[mellow hearth]

Does he even play?

[dire fossil]

he does yea

[austere raptor]

Hes the rta masterclass teacher

[green meadow]

Same with alot of other stuff too, I could be back in trials in d2 within a week on my old account, it kinda just doesnt work in gachas unfortunately

[dry hull]

have the devs ever stated that they dont want to favor t1 cause they want matches to be longer? i know remgoku has said that but like is it actually offical?

[mellow hearth]

We will never know. The devs don’t talk

[dire fossil]

c mentioned they dont want ER to be speed chase stimulator not that they want longer matches, so ig that's why they focused a lot on t2 since launch. but no nothing official

but then again during the first big tour in the rev meta, they were struggling to fill out the alloted time because matches were over so fast so they had a random ass 3rd place match lol

[green meadow]

Which is funny, cuz ya know, they fucking created the rng speed system themselves

[dire fossil]

yea fr lol

[dry hull]

yea if you want longer and exciting matches to watch then it make sense to favor anything that scales or has RNG.

[green meadow]

If only they had the ability to limit speed rng, but who are they to do so

[dire fossil]

wish speed was only from shell passive + matrix (swiftrush/smite) and not substats

also i got nothing from the last 2x

but ig it'd be too predictable at that point

[thin imp]

Doki is also compeltely terrible to farm but has the coveted swiftrush set :(. Farming doki actively griefs ur acc unless u hit 3 matrix swiftrush with speed. Ive farmed doki 3 2x and aurora 2 2x. Farming Aurora just feels better and its not completely praying. I have 1 total yellow 3 matrix swift rush piece. How do i get faster :/

[green meadow]

Yea youre literally only there for 1 set, aura sets are just way better even for t1

[dry hull]

damn and i thought i had a bad run. i got 3 yellow speed 3 matrix swift last week. you are telling me that is actually decent?

[mellow hearth]

That’s really good

I used up almost 20k stam during 2x and got 0

[dry hull]

😢 guess its all down hill from here lol

[rose hill]

Dude share your luck!

[shell mauve]

280 vero lighthouse cuts any mass/beyo

[pliant heart]

Because we care for this game unlike your public white knight like barcode who quit the game cause he couldn't find players lol to fill his union.

[dry hull]

brother my bad for being new. it wouldnt make sense for a new player to have all the same issues you guys have so of course my negativity for the game is limited. im starting to slowly see the issues though.

[rose hill]

25 more days… 25 more days…
Make of break for the game!

[pliant heart]

Its all g man, we all enjoyed this game at the beggining but seeing more and more of the issues we still coped that devs would fix the rng in shell farming, economy and other pve stuff but the devs response has been silence or nothing burger patches.

[dry hull]

im not really sure why amber is being spearheaded to the top of the list of issues though. i would think module farming and shell farming would be at the top of the list but people say nerfing Amber fixes 80% of the problems in this game.

[pliant heart]

We have been begging for less rng in the shell and module farming from week 1 of release. So far nothing has happened and seanB brought up lattice and gold farming economy to jack the lead dev and he got shot down quickly.

This is i think 11th rerun of champs gamble so there is no excuse at this point to why they not releasing new events 5 months into the games release.

[dark sandal]

Cause as they already they said don't want economy to be inflated heavily cause then players don't have any purpose to login to the game jack own words

[dry hull]

players should login into pvp not sit in a long waiting line until they get the gear/lattice that is required for RTA

[dark sandal]

Ye but they don't understand that so that's why they try to find a middle ground but it will take a lot of time for them to find it at this pace

[chilly pumice]

their solution for most problems are many small steps to the right direction, hoping nothing breaks. They are too afraid of taking larger steps. For example their fix for the bad module roll rng is to give you more modules with more frequent 2x module events. Then they eventually added QoL and made it 4x. Then came module forge.

now we are seeing the same with the shell forge

[dry hull]

i say get rid of shell forge but make inferno not drop those yellow shells. easy fix

[chilly pumice]

ive seen this 100s of times in the first 2 months alone

[dry hull]

shell forge and module forge are just fake fixes so they can keep things that are problematic

[pliant heart]

Before the buff to that, inferno would drop more gold ssr shell than mythic
People were sharing ss of 10 gold ssr shells in inferno shell farming and the currency you would get from trashing the gold ssr shells was 4k compared to the golden baaa which you get 8k from.

After so many complains they finally made sure you get a mythic shell in every 5 run

[dark sandal]

New players don't know how rough it was for old players

[chilly pumice]

oh yea we had that too for shells. i also dont think what they did are fixes they are more like giving medicine when you're sick not preventing the disease

[dry hull]

good thing yall tested all that BS 😂 i came in and the game is some what in a decent spot now i guess

[pliant heart]

A lot of us and ccs were worried for the health of the game due to pve being too hard/not casual friendly.
They still havent nerfed inferno rengoku even after all the backlash lmao. Thats how stubborn the devs is. They buffed pve from beta from managable to unnecessarily hard.

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1384230665461170346
This has 100k+ messages and for a good reason

[dry hull]

bro you know whats crazy though, rengoku is the only infernal shell boss i can farm right now. i cant do sharon or shadowflame.

i clear rengoku 90% winrate and i cant even clear sharon or shadow one time

[wise compass]

sharon and hoyan is easier than remgoku