99%+ wr, sub 1 minute rengokutsu inferno

[bright marsh]

This is a team for people who can already farm this, and just want a fast no fail team.
It will always take 56 seconds and rengo starting color does not impact the run.
Rc is the most consistent defense breaker.

Liliam 5/5/5 + insane count
Rc-77 1/1/3 + codex ,needs to outspeed mobs
Ninfoniel 1/1/4 + codex, 44k hp, needs to outspeed rengo
Lily 5/1/1 + codex, 300 spd ish

https://youtu.be/Ds6KXKhizMo?si=K_mRT2f7TrlmWY1a

[frank acorn]

More consistent then kloss/dinah? instead of rc

[clear aurora]

Dinah doesnt have down like kloss...this guy has attack down and multihit so probably yes

[frank acorn]

Is this the most consistent fast team?

[clear aurora]

I had no idea....but rc-77 should be more consisten than kloss since he hit multiple time

[bright marsh]

If you are using dinah purely for defense break it’s about the same

But from what I’ve seen the dinah teams also need her to land vulnerable

Which is a lot less consistent

[clear aurora]

Isnt the support just gonna nuked since there is no dmg down or atk down when rng element not on their side?

[bright marsh]

They run kaz which has an attack down

But it runs out faster than rc

Which is why I believe dinah needs to land the vuln

Or team is too slow

[clear aurora]

Ic ic....if there is atk down then its not prob then

[bright marsh]

Since kaz doesn’t renew attack down if it’s already applied

You get 2 turn attack down vs rcs 3/4

[frank acorn]

so based on ur opinion what would u say is the most consistent fast team

[bright marsh]

This one

[frank acorn]

u think its more consistent then the kazuya kloss team?

[bright marsh]

100%

Kloss gets screwed by 10% because no multi hit

Making her feel pretty inconsistent

[frank acorn]

ye I realised that too

I guess i will give rc a try see fi its mroe consistnet

[frank acorn]

also any idea whats most consistne tteam for rengo without ssania

[bright marsh]

You just need a very good liliam

[bright marsh]

Rengo without ssania?

[frank acorn]

wait my bad hoyan*

[bright marsh]

I personally use dot, but I can go think of something

Just give me a bit

[frank acorn]

ye take ur time my thought btw was lily liliam dinah celine. I dont know if this is the most consistent maybe rc instead of dinah? or celine out idk

I definitly think an multihitter debufer is better to have higher consitency

[bright marsh]

I definitely agree

You could lowkey can this same comp

But I would have to test further for consistency

I think kaz Dinah might be the comp

[frank acorn]

why not kaz rc?

[frank acorn]

ye t bh this same comp can be used too, but idk

kaz rc has higher chance to land sleep and attk down

[remote phoenix]

do we know if diting or yeli instead of liliam work in this setup?

and does ninfo need to be 1/1/4 or 1/1/3 is enough?

[frank acorn]

pretty sure liliam best in slot

or yeli yeli for differnet element

ninfo 1/1/4 just givevs more consistency I think

[dark pawn]

Please use dting instead

Why would you want to use rng girl on rng boss

[frank acorn]

wait what, liliam is not better then dditing?

[dark pawn]

They were asking yeli or dting
So obviously dting is mile ahead

[frank acorn]

u think this is the best rengo team

[dark pawn]

Also when paieing with lily ans ninfo dting can be little bit faster

[frank acorn]

compared to liliam too?

[dark pawn]

Yeah but if u fucked up you die tho so not worthit

Its 35s vs 44s if u dont land vuln ure aa good as deadge

[remote phoenix]

yeah i am atm

but not the best wr rn

although i am using a 5/1/1 kloss with sheep+insight instead of rc(i dont have him built)

sometimes i win 5/5 sometimes is 9/1, idk, maybe is my ninfo that is 1/1/3 and not 4

[dark pawn]

4 ninfo wont do anything

the shield is thinner thann my hair

ninfo+lily+X dps +Kloss arent meant to be 999% wr its just very fast

my personal favourite is Liliam/dting+R cachi (jackal) , vice Jackal Codex kloss not the fastest( 54s-1min) but even if i get fucked by rng my wirnate is higher lol

[remote phoenix]

i might give it a try because i wanted something with good speed but at least 80% guaranteed wr

since my sania+lily+viper+yeli team takes way too long

3~4 minutes

and its around 80~90% wr

[dark pawn]

please do but that team is harsher on speed req though

300 kloss (286 is fine but you want to cycle more often if u get fucked by rng so u can land anoither s3 on 1 min mark // hence why 300 is the req)
286 vice (Min)
270 Min R cachi ( mine on 275)

[remote phoenix]

yeah that speed on vice and r cachi might be a probblem

on kloss i could get to 340 but i could definitely not get to 280 with vice

those two are just too slow

[dark pawn]

you can cope with 265+- vice and 255 r cachi but dont expect high af wr though

[remote phoenix]

aight i will save it for later tho, hopefully your comp will work for me

and if it does i will let you know

thank you for the advice anyway

[dark pawn]

have fun

[frank acorn]

if I make lily faster would that be better or worse

[bright marsh]

It should be better but I don’t think it’ll do much

I made mine 310 and it made it kill a second faster

[frank acorn]

I got 345 woould that help

[bright marsh]

Idk

Go try it

[frank acorn]

can I ask 1 last question for hooyan I am trying liliam lily kaz rc, is kaz rc or kaz ddinah better?

[dark pawn]

if u can kill with just def down rc is superior

[frank acorn]

oh I see, wait what about ddinah celince?

or is kaz rc better?

[dark pawn]

i never even bothered to try dinah celince so i wouldnt know

[frank acorn]

u use kaz mostly for the sleep on adds right?

[dark pawn]

yeah

[frank acorn]

the celince variation basically u use the forgetfulness also on adds I assume?

[dark pawn]

ye

[frank acorn]

great let me try, on liliam btw do u prefer momentum oor keeneye?

[dark pawn]

i run momentum just because i have swiftraid lol

[frank acorn]

I thought furyedge is preferred

[dark pawn]

i cant be bothered to spend more time for pve shells so i just fuck with swiftraid

[frank acorn]

pretty sure fury is best, keeneye -> momentum, furyedge -> swiftraid I was told

[dark pawn]

correct.

[frank acorn]

I think pvp prefers swiftraid tho

[dark pawn]

but swiftraid > furyedge depending on how ure using them

[frank acorn]

well there is an lily

I feel like the value goes down of spd when lily is in ur team

[frank acorn]

what u think is better fury keeneye swiftraid or fury moomentum furyedge?

[dark pawn]

i dont have fully built fury moment furyedge so i cant say

[void galleon]

Can I run this team without Liliam? Any replacements?

[dark pawn]

you can always cope with dting

[void galleon]

Real, I wish I could use my Khloros though 😢

[dark pawn]

since theres a lily u can try

[void galleon]

I'll run Lily on WF or Jackal for the extra hit(s) than

[frank acorn]

any idea how fast the mobs and rengo himself is?

[dark pawn]

286 min afaik

[frank acorn]

the mobs or teh boss?

[dark pawn]

mobs

why would u want to outspeed the boss and not the ads xD

[elder aurora]

1 win 7 defeat.....

[dark pawn]

no kloss?

[elder aurora]

yes but rc is better no?

[dark pawn]

43s vs 1min lol

having rc+ninfo makes your rengo go green 50% of the time

excluding the fact that kloss lands speed down which is superior to rc

i tried using rc it just dont work lol

unless i get light for 2 straight runs

[dark pawn]

^

im running moment fury instead tho

[elder aurora]

lov u it s working

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181657551952166922/1409301020055437332/IMG_0444.gif

i die tho if he counter 2 turn of liliam if hes light

[dark pawn]

what is working

[dark pawn]

the team i screenshotted ?

[elder aurora]

ye

[dark pawn]

are u running codex?

[elder aurora]

yes

[dark pawn]

on lilly*

[elder aurora]

ye

[dark pawn]

ure supposed to run artisan

also running codex is stupid

LOL

[elder aurora]

let me try

[dark pawn]

because first s3 will make u do maybe what 30% damage? or something
s2 would make rengo hp goes down to under 60%
so on ur next s3 u do less dmg

Not the ideal run since my nympho in acc build for some reason

You see if i had coddx righy there i wouldve died

rc would require me godsent stats for it to work copium

[bright marsh]

This post is meant to be the most consistent

And so it requires very good Liliam stats

Kloss runs just die to her missing debuffs

Not meant for people still on WF

[torpid herald]

I tried using diting RC but I think Im missing extra 15% atk on nimfo for a consistent kill (too lazy to raise her s3)

actually, not bad, didnt need to raise nimfo s3

[dark pawn]

yeah i just noticed ur liliam do like 50k more dmg than mine on first s3 lmao ( my count is scuffed though) that explains why my runs last longer

[lost ore]

me with no lily

[dark pawn]

Just use 1 min team without lily

[remote stream]

Crushing rengo

[lost ore]

how about show us your team

[dark pawn]

honestly count liliam is goated but i could never squeeze 300k outta count anyone got luck with it ? mind sharing gear stats

[torpid herald]

just pull dupes

those free stats can be impactful, esp if it has 8% crit and let u drop crit rate module for atk/cdmg

[dark pawn]

i already can

red cr ftw

might actually get p2 though assuming i could even get red atk %

[bitter tusk]

Good day guys

What do you think is better harvest/keen or harvest/ons

[lost ore]

keen

[dark pawn]

Onsl is always a joke unless its on a rev

[bitter tusk]

Aight thanks guys

I also asked chatgpt for that and it is always dependent on your +att%

[dark pawn]

Please dont

[wraith echo]

Any lilyless comp ?

[dark pawn]

Wait shoot i replied on wrong post

[dark pawn]

R cachi kloss vice

Both vice and kloss has to be 287+

Rcachi has to be 275+ if ur liliam on swiftraid

If ur liliam arent on swiftraid ur cachi only need 265+

[bright marsh]

I meant this to be cool fast clear

What are these slow comps

You could try diting instead of Lily with the new shell

[wraith echo]

Ooo I cant beat new boss without lily or yeli.

[frank acorn]

Can plume improve this team?

[bright marsh]

It might be faster but idk if it’s safe enough

Since rc attack down is more

[frank acorn]

I stick to rc then

[dark pawn]

No

Plumr arent burstty enough u will just die

[dark pawn]

lilyless 40s team the only variable is ur gear and how fast is ur SLOW rosa

rosa is 151 btw

1 min runs , the only reason u will lose if ur kloss miss hack in , if ur liliam gear arent good enough

1 min ~ 1:30 , losing condition is missing hack in , (def down on 2nd turn very unlikely) , yeli only fua once

45s~1:20 , losing condition is missing fuas , missing kloss hack in . 551 lily + well built yeli should be able to do it under a minute

[bright marsh]

Just use tiger on any dps and call it a day

[frank acorn]

U think tiger is better then count on lilim

[frank acorn]

From all these teams what is the most consistent one

[bleak osprey]

Liliam + tiger shell, Rc with darkmoon, codex Ninf, Lily.
Liliam 2 ults + s1 + s2 done. You'll be able to finish within 2 turns, very consistent

[frank acorn]

U dont think codex on rc is better in case it misses first

[frank acorn]

People tedted tiger on liliam, its best in slot?

[bleak osprey]

Yeah tiger is the best one now. Darkmoon gives 50 extra acc which is good on grass element for Rc? With like 260% acc for a 45% 3 hits defense break I think the missing chance is like less than 1%

[frank acorn]

But isnt there like a max eff acc?

I can prob reach like 250 without dark moon

[bleak osprey]

I meant around 210, with darkmoon you have 260%

[frank acorn]

The missing chance would prob be lower with codex when u have second try right?

[frank acorn]

But isnt there like a max eff acc?

[frank acorn]

I feel like 210 and 260 wont necssarily increase the chance or am i wrong

[bleak osprey]

I read the formula is like (100% - eff res% + eff acc%) * skill chance. Inferno boss probably have like around 150% eff res%? So if you only got 200%, with weak element -50%, Rc's skill land chance is now back to 45% each time, with 3 hit miss rate 16%. With darkmoon's additional 50%, your 3 hit miss rate is only 3%

[frank acorn]

I see what about if u use codex

Whats the math on that

[bleak osprey]

Without def break on 1st turn, you'll get to 3rd turn, my team always got wiped by then 😢

[frank acorn]

Hmm i see i guess

Dark moon it is then

[frank acorn]

U tried plume too btw?

That plume passive seems broken

U can increase dmg to like 36%?

Wait 60%

[bleak osprey]

That requires 10 stacks, which will take 3+ turns. And plume is also dark, I tried it once and almost got wiped at turn 2

[frank acorn]

Gotcha i guess i wont use plume then, for khloros is there any like super consistent team?

[bleak osprey]

tiger Liliam, Lily, code x Ninf, code x Plume, very stable

[frank acorn]

Lily codex too?

[bleak osprey]

I use artisan

[frank acorn]

Artisan best?

[bleak osprey]

I always use artisan for Lily in pve. I don't see the point to use code x, the cd on her S3 can't be reduced...

[frank acorn]

Wait this team lilt is on artisan too?

[frank acorn]

The reason people use codes is because u do s2
Into s2 again

Which bascially gives liliam crit dmg

Also u do liliam s3 s2
Lily s3
Liliam s3 s2

So u maximize all ur skills of liliam basically

[frank acorn]

U know what i mean?

[bleak osprey]

ohhh I see

[frank acorn]

The crit dmg is btw part of lily s2

If it has twin trick

U get cdmg

[frank acorn]

So thats how people use plume i think but u need codex on lily

[bright marsh]

with tiger you prob dont need codex

[lost ore]

anyone know if Tiger shell can one shot Rengo

[dark pawn]

Anything without yeli

[dark pawn]

No it cant

Without p5 that is

[frank acorn]

Oh with tigher u go artisan?

[frank acorn]

Hey so with the tiger shell now, its bis over count right?

[bright marsh]

I believe so