I want an improvement for EFF Res check in PvP/RTA

[night nexus]

as we all know, EFF RES is able to reduce the probability of skills landing by half. In my personal opinion, I think this should be slightly better if possible. I'd like EFF Res to reduec the probability of skills landing to 25% or 33% of the value instead of half so that why EFF Res is still a good stat to invest in, but not hinder the role of debuffers.
Basically I'm asking a compromise where the playerbase would feel less frustrated with the EFF Res check FEELING bad, while also retaining XD's vision of debuffers being very important in this game.

@hybrid steppe hi, i made this suggestion/feedback here in response to your post in #ask-staff

I understand that this was an intended design to make debuffers feel powerful, and maybe make PvE itself easier for people to land their debuffs with lower EFF ACCs builds. however, IN RTA/PvP, it feels pretty sad to play as a defensive/eff res player

"just draft cleansers" isn't even a solution either since there's limited options of cleansers, on top of them having to rely on eff res as well to make sure they can cleanse their allies. Alicorn isn't a guaranteed solution as it can cleanse the OTHER debuffs rather than the HARD CC'S

oh, just realized i probably should've posted this in #1379680012940083220 #suggestion not feedback lol

[hybrid steppe]

there's so much going on behind the scenes sorry

refer to my newest ask staff messages

[night nexus]

thank you for taking initiative and talking to the top 200 RTA players discussing how to improve the game. i hope my suggestion as a non-top 200 RTA player still can contribute to the balance of the game
also hope that my suggestion has been relayed to the dev/ balance team or whoever is in charge

[hybrid steppe]

even top rta players dont know everything

dont worry

thought is put into a lot of things

i just dont wanna post my work in here bc the community will get too excited

and feel let down if it isnt all done

keeping it private for now

[night nexus]

got it. got it.

[sullen mauve]

can we add a new RIZZ stat line. the more you have the more aura you can farm

and whoever has the most aura at the end of match wins the match

[pearl trail]

CC is worse than bruiser. If someone is lucky enough to have a high speed Lily and Heinrich, their CC is practically unstoppable in Etherena, especially in Obol. Ninety percent of the time, they’ll land a stun even if you have 300% effect res, because bulwark will be dispelled, and they apply multiple debuffs so Alicorn won’t help either.

[glossy ledge]

Spill the beans homie!!! Spill it like spoiled milk!

[sullen mauve]

if cc every get a mirror meta

atleast the games will end fast

1 player solitaire game

[autumn nacelle]

as a cleave player, the only CC thats consistant is KAZ, the rest are god awful, Mio always misses the important ones, Obal is wierd and his stun feels less consistant than the dots themselves. and Nahor isnt actually that bad.

But its mostly multihit CC that are broken and not all CC

Honestly the fix to CC is reduce the amount of hits they do by 1 (2 for kaz and obal or even down to 1)

[dense owl]

Tfw Lilith doesn't even get a mention in the lineup

[stoic vault]

Yea idk what nonsense I just read ngl. Sat through a 15min cc game just a little while ago and can confidently say eff res should be made better if anything. LL at 300 ER managed to stay un-cc’d until the 3rd Obol s3 and it was just game over. Sat there unable to play in the hopes my Holden would resist just ONE of KTR’s 2turn sleeps (ele adv means nothing in this dogshit game lel). All that to say: If anything eff res isn’t strong enough. If I stack full right eff res I should not be receiving a single cc unless the opp has full right eff acc

[autumn nacelle]

haha my obal has 270 eff acc, and i hate that my cc isnt consistant

problem is you run max res i run max acc, we both average out at 0 and its 3x 40% so its in my favour, but still its a feel bad for both sides

[stoic vault]

True. Idk, the multi hit cc is just a miserably dogass design imo. It really makes the whole scenario that much harder to balance

[autumn nacelle]

yea but because of how its balanced, single hit cc units feel awful

[stoic vault]

That’s super true as well

They boned themselves w the way the designed it

Too far down the rabbit hole to change it I’d imagine

[night nexus]

this is just my prediction. But I think the triple hit is his dot. While his stun is the final hit

Maybe that's why it feels not as consistent as kazuyo

Either way. I dislike playing against them anyways haha

[stoic vault]

Nope.

[dense owl]

Unfortunately with these devs it's possible "and there's a 30%..." applies to the entire previous statement, so that can't prove much. However, I've seen him stun on earlier hits, so,

[stoic vault]

I completely agree w that. But yea, like u mentioned, I’ve seen first hit cause stun so I’m more inclined to believe that even w the shite wording, it means each hit has a chance to do both

[night nexus]

Ah

If the first hit stuns then that easily disproves my point lol

[dense owl]

But what if, this being Etheria Restart, somehow it still is the last hit

[night nexus]

[autumn nacelle]

And just shows stun on the first hit even tho it’s the last 😂

I could believe that

[trail maple]

If they buff eff res,probably my xiada s1 investment gonna be useless...from 40% steal chance on lowest to 0%

[night nexus]

[trail maple]

Im really sorry

[night nexus]

if u read what i posted, i suggested they can improve eff res check by , instead of halving the probability chance, they can instead lower it to 33%

so debuffers would still be a menace in this game

but eff res stackers in rta would feel less oppressed

[trail maple]

Owh 33%...thats not bad,so like 24% or smth

alright moving on,go nerf effect acc

[night nexus]

funny thing is that nerfing eff acc would just make pve harder than what most people can handle, with how many complaints there are

it's better to just change how the eff acc vs. eff res check works imo

[trail maple]

[night nexus]

so unless they nerf eff acc while also nerfing bosses's eff res at the same time

[trail maple]

Or just make it specific change on pvp

[night nexus]

they could, but that's a lazy approach

🥀

[trail maple]

Well since they make dps with debuff approach like that,for example holden and new shark boi

100% chance on crit but lower to 50% chance,so applied to pve then its gonna fk lot of char like that

[night nexus]

ultimately, it's up to them 🥀 we'll see if they actually wanna buff defensive playstyles in the future after this complained about BB meta

gonna be a long while before cleansers come, and eff res and stuff gets better

and soon they'll release more anti-cleavers like epic 7 surely

[viral crypt]

we have to rely on Paul to give the feedback