#WE WANT A REAL RENGO NERF
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For you, it's 100% undeniably a skill issue
um sweaty I already clear rengo
Wow they actually said "crush" 
u filthy whore

Satan made me say it
@livid totem Well show him who's the boss of your mind
Unless you want to see another Satan 
Oh god it was worded so badly.
Specifically designed to help crush rengo.

like both are good with lettuce investment but neither are "crushing" rengo
esp bats
u need to run with 5/5/5 supports for bats to “crush” rengo
ninfo from what I see is good only at 115 for slower clears, 113 minimum for the fatter shield in speedy ones
even then I can't imagine em doing it at 555 full dupes 💀
cuz he can't extend debuffs against bosses
only the minions and Animus

Addressing directly
Addressing indirectly through characters instead of touching Rengo
Specifically designed to help crush Rengo
Mostly a sidegrade which makes pre-existing speed clears a bit faster or more stable
to say that part could have been worded better is an understatement lol
The funny part about all its that they could not Even make it to the #1 
Actually community is more involved now
Everyone is raging
Look how many feedback threads were created
I'd say #1 succeeded
ragebaiting successfully
feedback bait
Gotta get those numbers down
Saw rengo clear video by Trueeevil and came out with this modified version. Cleared it in 10 mins lol. Sania keep revive the rest and protected by Amber.
My Holden only has skill 3 maxed. Gonna up Tiamat and Holden and Rahu skills since they good for pvp and now here.
All on BB except LL she's on swiftrush cure.. Main healer in the team.
remember kids, stay in school if you don’t want to end up a degenerate keyboard warrior
10 mins one clear???
ain’t a keyboard warrior
stating the truth
my bad, it just seemed like wishing unemployment on someone who isn’t even making the relevant decisions because you’re mad about a video game was degenerate keyboard warrior behavior
but now I can see that’s normal, well-adjusted truth telling
Keep the convo respectful please everyone, thanks 🙂
Yea until I farm for better speed gears. I think that's the best way till devs do something about the gear and shell reconfigure. No speed no other way to conituous battle which sucks.
I agree this is the root of the problem that caused the community backlash about Nimfoniel. It's not the unit's problem, but the way they sold Nimfo as if she was the solution / direct counter for Rengo Inferno. That was false advertising no matter how people try to spin it around saying that she's great when Lily literally carried the whole team there.
However so, he doesn't deserve to be trashtalked like what you said. That's rude and unnecessary. Let's keep it civil.
Yes they should not lie to us. Still require high speed modules and shells for support. They expect us to have them? What if someone didn't have that and went all out in latticing Ninfo for Rengo inf? Will be a waste in the end.
the fact that the summon currency removals hasnt yet been resolved means it was intentional and they just dont give a fuck about their community
Keeping the propoganda up with nin
I dont see no nin
I dont see no rengo
he could never see in the first place
Honestly, all inferno dungeons could use a rebalance. All of em have some bullshit now "you lose mechanic". Its like a built in "XD takes 10% of your stamina" shit. Like, how horny can you be? Not to mention that all dungeons are 100% anti fun. Restrictions over restrictions until the banner characters look juicy I guess...
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Hmm we are getting 90% wr on rengo, i think its time to shadow buff it
Dont worry, we will release a new unit that u may need spend just few latices and u will be back to 90%
Try them out with liliam!
They should add a disclaimer next time like, this unit will crush rengo if u could do that already before, but if u couldnt clear before we dont take the liability

That's why they asked to use her with Liliam in a first place
They expected from to have her maxed
Rengo nerf isn't needed now tbh. Pulls are easy in this game atleast for RGB
Still needed
Whats your team comp for rengo ?
I would like Rengo nerfed.
Day 1 players shouldn't have a 60% win rate on Rengo
And before you say "Those players must be bad haha get good"
Who cares if they are bad, its a farming stage
if c saw this he'd be very upset
I've only ever been nice to C, he will definitely help me out
I can’t believe he wants to fuck the economy in a millennia
Val Yeli Lily Viper. 90% before Ninfo so once Val replaced, should be even better
So 2 top tier ld units with 90% winrate seems fair for you ?
I imagine you have a pretty well invested yeli and lily too
Imagine not having Lily, just restart
Lmao when you lost an argument 😂
Well, it's more of a joke but it's half right. That said you can literally still clear it with high winrate and decently fast without Lily and that will just get easier with time. Doki, Tsukiyo, Beyontin (...if they fix her AI) all can be alternatives for Lily if people could actually read
As for top tier LD carry, for anyone who has a day 1 account for instance should have atleast Lilliam or Yeli no? Summons are pretty decent in this game so this is a super weak argument
Bloodbath set on carry + Green Sania also makes it easy to have a high winrate. Ninfonielle adds a ton of offensive and defensive buffs. People who still have issues literally have skill issues now or are new accounts
yea and i thought the point of banner was to help ppl who were struggling with the caption "HELP IS ON THE WAY", but i guess we just say fk it to those ppl
Wait why, both banner units are good for Rengo right?
good? probably with lattice investment, but that goes to the other comps, and even a r cachi will work if ur dps is geared. so i guess its more about the way they marketed the banner units that im dissatisfied with. cause saying help is on the way, and designed to help u crush rengo are kinda big words and sets certain type of expectations.
she's the best supp for fast consistent clears
even at 0 lattice
but she won't work if ure doing a slow clear
For those already clearing rengo she gives faster clear. Not for those struggling to clear in the first place
You get. Right now I can’t clear consistently till I get a fury momentum furyedge on liliam, or fury keeneye
She needs what, 3 lattices?:
I put 7 on mine. Still dying 🤣🤣🤣
What team you using
Her shield and hp is not enough.
Liliam, kloss, lily and her
Tried with yeli
Tried with ditting
Is this a gear issue then?
From what I have seen it’s your dps doing the heavy lifting. Which you will clear without her but she makes it faster.
Also if you use Yeli, switch to Viper
Exactly. So she is only making the runs faster by the atk buff. But she is not adding any defense of heals since they are not good
People use Bloodbath DPS though so basically Bloodbath + Furyedge should be good enough especially if you run with Green Sania
ure suppose to hit before the boss
I can do longer clears just fine
Without her
She can speed those up. I'd probably go Yeli, Sania, Ninfo and Lily for a fast and high WR team
Bloodbath on Yeli ofc
Example of my runs with her.
u don't need lily btw
u can just go double dps with kloss
wasn't possible before her
no
Then bloodbath is the solution. Not ninfo 😩😩😩 because my consistent clears is bloodbath. And green sania. So once a again she is not a solution
like I said earlier more consistent fast clears
There is no consistency with her on my account as I sent the video
"She took me from barely losing 2 runs to winning those 2 runs outta 10." =/= I Lose 0/10 im still losing 0/10
Winmore Left, What Was Promised on the Right
She's part of it? Like, she makes up lost DPS for going Bloodbath
You can clear with lower stats than before
Is she a Good unit, Yes?
Where’s that “common sense?? Not in ER” meme when we need it
Literally my win rate with her is 3/10 it will be better once I get fury momentum furyedge or fury keeneye. Since my friends and I have the same stats
Did Devs Lie to the Playerbase, as a Rengo Counter? Yes
They said she'll help right? Did they say it's a counter
If im burning 80 pulls on a unit that is supposed to hose Rengo... It better hose Rengo... This is like playing a Card game Putting in 12 hate cards for the T0 Deck and still having 0% winrate if its a bad matchup... and if you already were 50/50 improving it to 70...
No they said she is the solution
A new banner is coming that features a character specifically designed to help crush Rengokutsu
If you don't think Specifically Designed to Help Crush Means Counter you don't understand English.

Or increase good comm 
they kinda made her look bad
Specifically designed to help crush rengo
But she did help my team, all I need to do is give liliam an hp module
at this Point I wanna Watch the World burn
Just not in the space they said she would be
Is the biggest problem 
She is too crack in RTA rn
They don't care about RTA if they did they wouldn't have Nerfed Rev... and Buffed Bruisers...
Any team without Lily and Kloss ? 
yeah I'm barely surviving those cleave mass now
it's getting real sweaty
double dps
What the real rengo issue the rng, the damage he does. If you ain’t helping with these two, by thicker shield which can be applied frequently with low CD. HOW TF F, are you specifically designed to help crush rengo.
No one is gonna 555 batsby
yep
It’s try rcc, try bloodbath, try green sania. If we are doing all this wtf is she specifically crushing rengo
her really realy want the lattice
He should Work at 1/1/1 on Rengo


I mean designed to crush

Oh wait I forgot this company is the best at Misinformation and False Advertising... "Dupes Don't Matter in RTA", "PvP Focused Games", "Your Feedback Matters to Etheria", "We Didn't Remove Pulls" "Help is on the Way CRUSH Rengoku with the New Units"
No she doesn’t if you don’t have an already super fast and powerful dps and nice shell. 7 lacctice in her and I still need bloodbath and rc77. Been farming for a good yeli and liliam shell for 3plus weeks now
Now it’s farm bloodbath
u need to be fast yes
it's for spead clears after all
but she's the most consistent at it so far
Which I not what she was sold as
yeah no argument here
just remove the random turn 1 one shot pls
Im still Sad they removed my Post
fast clearing means u were already crushing rengo
That’s why people are asking for a rengo nerf
Same
rather than being stuck on fking farm stages
I don’t get why they are bent on making this challenging
If you want to make a healthier game for new players and everyone else Nerf Inferno Stages Below. If not Just add a Sweep button so it stops feeling like a 2nd job. Inferno Stages - Current Balance Adjustment Preferred.
Balanced
NicoNana
Niche (Could use Nerf[10%])
Hoyan
DokiDoki
Needs a 10%-20% Nerf
Terrormaton
Needs a 20%-30% Nerf
Aurora
Sharon
Needs a 30%-40% Nerf
Rengo

Or go back to Beta Levels
For real. We already have enough challenges with rng on modules and shells. Like it’s enough
Which would be Ideal
they are completly out of touch
because we have some whiteknight defending it
With their life bruhhh
Insane at this point
Like what does it change in the game. 😂😂😂
from comment I seen from c that I think he got from the devs
the latter is coming next week copium
they are worried ppl will get bored and leave if pve is too easy
There is RNGGGG
You got to farm the perfect shell, you have to farm modules. There is ember track, Ethernet rally that takes so long, daily login anisync echoes pvp meta changing so farming changing
See how Nico nana is nerfed and people are in there daily still trying to get good stuff
Nico Nana and Hoyan (if you have dot) being the only two stages worth farming
and still taking 4 hours

Complaints are falling on deaf ears
maybe they will listen to the cn players when it get released there
I actually have some hope things will change after the gloabl release
eos soon
but idk if it would be too late
bilibili peeps will burn them down
which is why they will listen 
They Already burned them down
Check their billibilli
Its a Ghost town
im keeping the propoganda up😂
They have 1/10th the interest as global does...
Not To mention CN is basically calling this A Garbage Bastard Child of HSR and E7....

who paid u
ER is a child suffering from down syndrome

i can already do this with yeli vale lily kloss
but ninfo has the same issue with the current team im running
random turn 1 oneshot
because ninfo’s kit is designed for fast/oneshot team which is the team that really expensive
their tester just used everyone at 5/5/5 full prowess and edited modules/shells
and assume “eureka we found the solution lets sell them for big money”
I think is time to trend "Clueless devs" lol
They had a Perfectly balanced PvE system in beta....
and hope
Then they buffed it by 300% and added an Enrage Timer....
they killed ssania
and why would they make sharon cannot be debuffed then showcased batsby in that dungeon
truly dumb
but its been a few months and a time has passed. and we all know you know players knows it everyone here knows it but, the ones that have been clueless.
Its just time
and time is running out
im just giving it till CN launch and see if they plan on fixing the game
CN wouldve been malding in savagery there like PEAK critics
that wouldve been content to see lmao
they would be eating the devs xD while were like "We giving you a chance but its slowly going downhill"
xD
We would be like a givings warnings like an officer "Hey just giving you a warning but your free to go" CN: straight up gives the ticket lol
brick with a note on it
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I guess he did follow the devs instructions. lol didnt answer anything.
They they could never in thier life release this game in CN for launch. Would been shut down in 1 week
C will say you are not testing her properly

tbh even if these two unit can crush rengo it isnt a good solution
what happen if a new player doesnt have them
are they fucked
properly
Very much so
what a short sighted
We know its not
but beggers can't be choosers
so
well
WE convince them to buff the units or nerf inferno

Launching in CN will be downfall of this game, or they buck up and really improve things. Devs better listen to the community.
oh no dont ask this, some people will tell you to just restart the game if you dont have em at this point
ah too bad, even volkin doesn't do enough research, he should read more of descriptions, scaling, and more 🙂
guys hear me out, nerf inferno and add new difficulty that gives proper 333 shells / 4 subs matrix
That's way too reasonable of a suggestion...
you assume they want the game to be fun and rewarding.
Frosty!
Heyho

They don't even need to make their game fun they got 1% of the community running hard defense for their game design
Devs have 0 iq, if they did even a basic market research we wouldn't be at this predicament.
tbf i dont think the dev has any final say in this things
and most likly their opinion wont account much
just remenber XD has gone public
2019 i think
It's cheaper to maintain a game then make a new one, investors are usually not complete morons, long term is always more money then short term
well im not to well versed on how cn company works
but i got ptsd from those koreans like Nexon

As you said this we lost another 50 marathoners

It is a shame that Volkin didn’t do enough research about whatever the blue girl’s name is
🌚 
What did he do?
He said she doesn’t help his account clear rengo
yeah, he didnt minmax like all the other liliam
Exactly. He didn’t research a good furyedge shell
should have play the game more
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real talk, everyone know the truth but some ppl's comfort zone is live in denial and decide to have copium as their life support, truth is clear as day, it's human defense mechanism to keep what it doesn't want to hear at bay, unhealthy af but that's a psychology of the ill-minded weak ppl who refuses to face their reality
Rengo buff when
is this for or against doomerism?
neither, it's against morons who let other ppl think for them instead of just simply seeing it infront of their eyes
I did my run 
Lily Kloss Ninfo Ditting and I get >90% as long as you outspeed ennemies
why isnt this close. the solution is just wait for cn if they dunk on it.
I better go back to Sania Viper than doing this casino
Shield will not get better
I have 14k shield from maxing everything i can and he does more dmg than my shield have
why your run is 1:28? i think it should be around 1 min or less if want to be safer
This is not the case
It is tho
You're saying time alone makes the run safer?
When people out here still gambling with sub 1 minute runs?
My 1:30 runs are more stable and consistent than my minute team
So
For me its still rng
whats your lineup
If diting get 3 attack in a row he is dead
and yeah i still lose
Same as urs
oh? same investment on chars?
lattice wise
cause going from 1-1-1 ninfoniel to 1-1-4 def helped way more for me
with hp bonuses
you have higher hp too
youve gotten 10s tho right
10-0
maybe because i have strive lily?
idk
cause she gets tm
I can do this and still think Rengo needs a nerf
100%
But have you tried her with liliam?
Even with best shield you can get
yeah ive gotten that before as well
and also when theyre on light early phase
mine is 11k shield only
i forgot
!
shouldve pulled liliam
!!
I like him with ditting more because of that mark
^
She die same way as diting since she is squishy
sometimes he lands the mark on boss it gets my run to 37-39 seconds
Why sometimes
Just use Dark Moon on Kloss she snipe the boss lowering his hp and mark will always be on boss
Because it targets lowest hp
ah
i can try that
no good dark moon rip
she gets slower
no good 3 3 3 dmoon
But even with moon she sometimes miss def down and run is rip
Im saying that your Ninfo, Lily, Kloss + DPS need to clear in 1 minute or lower if you want it to stable
If it takes longer you'll lose especialy if you are using same attributes
If you are slower than 1 minute, that just mean your DPS is lacking damages
yeah xD, for me at least 60% ish to 80-90
Is that p5 or something
im f2p
How did you hit 3500 atk 
Just now abother bruiser attacked my def
And that's 1 hit
And mess have double hit on ult

Thanks for free pts i guess
i wish i have this issue
U must be never get beaten by really builded messiah
Also i don't understand what's wrong with people who lose as bruiser one time then try again and get beaten again, 1 time was not enough

And there a lot people like that
fomo from the balance changes
rev nerfed and bb untouched
and now u have a lot of ppl believe that bruisers are just unbeatable
And get onetaped by cleaver
shhh it's against the agenda
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another one that needs to do more research, read descriptions, scaling, and more 🙂
I MIGHT NEVER PULL FOR AN RGB Unit AGAIN
Why wouls you purposefully not pulling rgb when we getting lot of pull lol,it just making you regret if the unit got buffed and you dont have them again
You should do more research, read skill descriptions, understand scaling, and find all possible team compositions before commenting further.
"I might never pull again" that's a rather convoluted and dramatic way of saying imma uninstall
every character review for this game: can bro hold some more lattices

Today I will be unfortunately reviewing just Ninfo, because the 'niel' part is unlocked with lattices
half character review meta

@blazing zealot is your winrate consistently around 60%?
50/50
like its 50% usually?
or 50% of the time 60%
and other 50% of the time its a higher winrate
lol
I need lily that fast to get the other two faster then the first add.
HMmmm
You do have diting built tho right
Just for reference?
mainly cuz i can't help u much with massiah cuz i have no experience with him
Eff Acc Up = Slower then the First add
Diting has a 0% win rate
but i might be able to help u get up to consistent 70-80% winrate with diting team
because the double dark
If willing to try
again can't give much advice or help with anything specific with massiha cuz i have no idea how massiah runs go
but my winrate with diting/liliam double dark comp running exact same team as u
is around 70-80% average
50 second consistent cleartime
i can try to help u align your team to mine and see if that works for u
my dps gear is not good either
so it should be achievable, only thing would be if u have enough speed to match
Aite time to try diting
ye
sent u my gears try to match as much as u can
im not sure how much eff acc u actually need but
i think 180 is probably high enough?
Diting is too fast
u have to slow him down then
either u slow him down
or speed up your supports
diting's actual gear is pretty neglible
lol
as in the actual subs don't matter that much
likely u will still die to light rengo
especially if u miss a def down
Running him w/ trash gears
5/5?

i like how these threads just end up turning into subcommunities for discussion
welcome back for the 5th time btw
thx yeah i've been wishy washy
feeling more zen so i'll prob stick around now
in the final stage of grief
(acceptance)
Ah so that’s what I was missing










