#WE WANT A REAL RENGO NERF

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livid totem
lean bloom
livid totem
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um sweaty I already clear rengo

proven violet
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Wow they actually said "crush" HUH

livid totem
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u filthy whore

reef raven
livid totem
reef raven
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@livid totem Well show him who's the boss of your mind

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Unless you want to see another Satan dv_frogKekOwO

livid totem
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throple?

copper sleet
# livid totem

Oh god it was worded so badly.

Specifically designed to help crush rengo.

livid totem
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like both are good with lettuce investment but neither are "crushing" rengo

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esp bats

wraith oyster
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u need to run with 5/5/5 supports for bats to “crush” rengo

livid totem
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ninfo from what I see is good only at 115 for slower clears, 113 minimum for the fatter shield in speedy ones

livid totem
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cuz he can't extend debuffs against bosses

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only the minions and Animus

wraith oyster
limber violet
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to say that part could have been worded better is an understatement lol

obtuse finch
# livid totem

The funny part about all its that they could not Even make it to the #1 dv_frogKekOwO

zinc hill
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Everyone is raging

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Look how many feedback threads were created

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I'd say #1 succeeded

wraith oyster
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ragebaiting successfully

limber violet
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feedback bait

scenic swan
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Only feedback that will matter.

blazing zealot
floral cedar
sharp totem
copper sleet
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That uninstall button never look that appealing before.

still iron
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Saw rengo clear video by Trueeevil and came out with this modified version. Cleared it in 10 mins lol. Sania keep revive the rest and protected by Amber.

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My Holden only has skill 3 maxed. Gonna up Tiamat and Holden and Rahu skills since they good for pvp and now here.

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All on BB except LL she's on swiftrush cure.. Main healer in the team.

bitter void
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remember kids, stay in school if you don’t want to end up a degenerate keyboard warrior

tall bough
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stating the truth

bitter void
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my bad, it just seemed like wishing unemployment on someone who isn’t even making the relevant decisions because you’re mad about a video game was degenerate keyboard warrior behavior

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but now I can see that’s normal, well-adjusted truth telling

wooden jay
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Keep the convo respectful please everyone, thanks 🙂

still iron
# trail narwhal 10 mins one clear???

Yea until I farm for better speed gears. I think that's the best way till devs do something about the gear and shell reconfigure. No speed no other way to conituous battle which sucks.

copper sleet
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I agree this is the root of the problem that caused the community backlash about Nimfoniel. It's not the unit's problem, but the way they sold Nimfo as if she was the solution / direct counter for Rengo Inferno. That was false advertising no matter how people try to spin it around saying that she's great when Lily literally carried the whole team there.

However so, he doesn't deserve to be trashtalked like what you said. That's rude and unnecessary. Let's keep it civil.

still iron
south salmon
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the fact that the summon currency removals hasnt yet been resolved means it was intentional and they just dont give a fuck about their community

alpine girder
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Keeping the propoganda up with nin

small garden
small garden
wary atlas
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he could never see in the first place

vagrant breach
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Honestly, all inferno dungeons could use a rebalance. All of em have some bullshit now "you lose mechanic". Its like a built in "XD takes 10% of your stamina" shit. Like, how horny can you be? Not to mention that all dungeons are 100% anti fun. Restrictions over restrictions until the banner characters look juicy I guess...

vagrant breach
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Go play somewhere else bozo.

blazing zealot
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What issue?

marble mantle
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Rage bait used to be believable

vagrant moon
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hearty hollow
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Hmm we are getting 90% wr on rengo, i think its time to shadow buff it

hearty hollow
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Dont worry, we will release a new unit that u may need spend just few latices and u will be back to 90%

livid totem
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the next LD will CRUSH rengo

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cuz they will be tested to CRUSH rengo

lost karma
hearty hollow
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They should add a disclaimer next time like, this unit will crush rengo if u could do that already before, but if u couldnt clear before we dont take the liability

zinc bronze
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That's why they asked to use her with Liliam in a first place

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They expected from to have her maxed

cedar remnant
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Rengo nerf isn't needed now tbh. Pulls are easy in this game atleast for RGB

potent ferry
wary grove
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I would like Rengo nerfed.

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Day 1 players shouldn't have a 60% win rate on Rengo

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And before you say "Those players must be bad haha get good"

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Who cares if they are bad, its a farming stage

livid totem
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if c saw this he'd be very upset

wary grove
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I've only ever been nice to C, he will definitely help me out

lost karma
modest drift
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Has the Rengo nerf come already?

cedar remnant
potent ferry
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I imagine you have a pretty well invested yeli and lily too

cedar remnant
lyric lily
cedar remnant
# lyric lily Lmao when you lost an argument 😂

Well, it's more of a joke but it's half right. That said you can literally still clear it with high winrate and decently fast without Lily and that will just get easier with time. Doki, Tsukiyo, Beyontin (...if they fix her AI) all can be alternatives for Lily if people could actually read

As for top tier LD carry, for anyone who has a day 1 account for instance should have atleast Lilliam or Yeli no? Summons are pretty decent in this game so this is a super weak argument

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Bloodbath set on carry + Green Sania also makes it easy to have a high winrate. Ninfonielle adds a ton of offensive and defensive buffs. People who still have issues literally have skill issues now or are new accounts

barren quest
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yea and i thought the point of banner was to help ppl who were struggling with the caption "HELP IS ON THE WAY", but i guess we just say fk it to those ppl

cedar remnant
barren quest
# cedar remnant Wait why, both banner units are good for Rengo right?

good? probably with lattice investment, but that goes to the other comps, and even a r cachi will work if ur dps is geared. so i guess its more about the way they marketed the banner units that im dissatisfied with. cause saying help is on the way, and designed to help u crush rengo are kinda big words and sets certain type of expectations.

gusty isle
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she's the best supp for fast consistent clears

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even at 0 lattice

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but she won't work if ure doing a slow clear

trail narwhal
trail narwhal
cedar remnant
trail narwhal
cedar remnant
trail narwhal
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Her shield and hp is not enough.

trail narwhal
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Tried with yeli

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Tried with ditting

cedar remnant
trail narwhal
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From what I have seen it’s your dps doing the heavy lifting. Which you will clear without her but she makes it faster.

cedar remnant
trail narwhal
cedar remnant
gusty isle
trail narwhal
trail narwhal
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Without her

cedar remnant
trail narwhal
cedar remnant
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Bloodbath on Yeli ofc

trail narwhal
gusty isle
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u don't need lily btw

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u can just go double dps with kloss

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wasn't possible before her

blazing zealot
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Winmore unit

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not a Help you win Unit

gusty isle
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no

trail narwhal
# cedar remnant Bloodbath on Yeli ofc

Then bloodbath is the solution. Not ninfo 😩😩😩 because my consistent clears is bloodbath. And green sania. So once a again she is not a solution

gusty isle
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like I said earlier more consistent fast clears

blazing zealot
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Thats Winmore

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Not Help you Win from not winning

gusty isle
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like the red cachi team was like 60% win rate

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90%+ with her

trail narwhal
blazing zealot
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"She took me from barely losing 2 runs to winning those 2 runs outta 10." =/= I Lose 0/10 im still losing 0/10

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Winmore Left, What Was Promised on the Right

cedar remnant
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You can clear with lower stats than before

blazing zealot
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Is she a Good unit, Yes?

hybrid pecan
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Where’s that “common sense?? Not in ER” meme when we need it

trail narwhal
blazing zealot
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Did Devs Lie to the Playerbase, as a Rengo Counter? Yes

cedar remnant
blazing zealot
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If im burning 80 pulls on a unit that is supposed to hose Rengo... It better hose Rengo... This is like playing a Card game Putting in 12 hate cards for the T0 Deck and still having 0% winrate if its a bad matchup... and if you already were 50/50 improving it to 70...

trail narwhal
blazing zealot
gusty isle
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it was another out of touch moment from them

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maybe they should reduce communication zf_hahaha

blazing zealot
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If you don't think Specifically Designed to Help Crush Means Counter you don't understand English.

hybrid pecan
gusty isle
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they kinda made her look bad

trail narwhal
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Specifically designed to help crush rengo

alpine girder
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But she did help my team, all I need to do is give liliam an hp moduledorodoro

gusty isle
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but she's a geniunly a solid unit

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no buff pls it will hurt rta

blazing zealot
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at this Point I wanna Watch the World burn

hybrid pecan
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Just not in the space they said she would be

blazing zealot
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Buff her

hybrid pecan
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Is the biggest problem FunnyHaha

alpine girder
blazing zealot
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They don't care about RTA if they did they wouldn't have Nerfed Rev... and Buffed Bruisers...

steady pier
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Any team without Lily and Kloss ? FrogCoolCry

gusty isle
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it's getting real sweaty

blazing zealot
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Still no Batsby Clear btw....

trail narwhal
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What the real rengo issue the rng, the damage he does. If you ain’t helping with these two, by thicker shield which can be applied frequently with low CD. HOW TF F, are you specifically designed to help crush rengo.

gusty isle
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try rc 77 instead of kloss

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but u need to be fast af

blazing zealot
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Remember they were both designed to crush rengo....

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Where are the Batsby Clears.

alpine girder
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No one is gonna 555 batsbyFrogCoolCry

gusty isle
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yep

trail narwhal
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It’s try rcc, try bloodbath, try green sania. If we are doing all this wtf is she specifically crushing rengo

gusty isle
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her really realy want the lattice

blazing zealot
gusty isle
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she actually works on 0

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and for pve u just need 2 lattice for max performance

alpine girder
blazing zealot
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I mean designed to crush

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Oh wait I forgot this company is the best at Misinformation and False Advertising... "Dupes Don't Matter in RTA", "PvP Focused Games", "Your Feedback Matters to Etheria", "We Didn't Remove Pulls" "Help is on the Way CRUSH Rengoku with the New Units"

trail narwhal
# gusty isle she actually works on 0

No she doesn’t if you don’t have an already super fast and powerful dps and nice shell. 7 lacctice in her and I still need bloodbath and rc77. Been farming for a good yeli and liliam shell for 3plus weeks now

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Now it’s farm bloodbath

gusty isle
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it's for spead clears after all

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but she's the most consistent at it so far

trail narwhal
gusty isle
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yeah no argument here

tribal pagoda
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just remove the random turn 1 one shot pls

blazing zealot
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Im still Sad they removed my Post

gusty isle
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fast clearing means u were already crushing rengo

blazing zealot
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it was so good...

trail narwhal
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That’s why people are asking for a rengo nerf

gusty isle
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I want all inferno nerfed no just rengo

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so I can find more ppl play rta

blazing zealot
gusty isle
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rather than being stuck on fking farm stages

trail narwhal
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I don’t get why they are bent on making this challenging

blazing zealot
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If you want to make a healthier game for new players and everyone else Nerf Inferno Stages Below. If not Just add a Sweep button so it stops feeling like a 2nd job. Inferno Stages - Current Balance Adjustment Preferred.

Balanced
NicoNana

Niche (Could use Nerf[10%])
Hoyan
DokiDoki

Needs a 10%-20% Nerf
Terrormaton

Needs a 20%-30% Nerf
Aurora
Sharon

Needs a 30%-40% Nerf
Rengo

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Or go back to Beta Levels

trail narwhal
blazing zealot
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Which would be Ideal

alpine girder
trail narwhal
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Insane at this point

gusty isle
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nerf rengo and increase auto battle

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is that so fking hard

trail narwhal
gusty isle
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from comment I seen from c that I think he got from the devs

alpine girder
gusty isle
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they are worried ppl will get bored and leave if pve is too easy

trail narwhal
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There is RNGGGG

trail narwhal
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You got to farm the perfect shell, you have to farm modules. There is ember track, Ethernet rally that takes so long, daily login anisync echoes pvp meta changing so farming changing

blazing zealot
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I wanna Watch the World Burn

trail narwhal
blazing zealot
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and still taking 4 hours

trail narwhal
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Complaints are falling on deaf ears

gusty isle
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maybe they will listen to the cn players when it get released there

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I actually have some hope things will change after the gloabl release

wraith oyster
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eos soon

gusty isle
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but idk if it would be too late

wraith oyster
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bilibili peeps will burn them down

gusty isle
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which is why they will listen zf_hahaha

blazing zealot
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Check their billibilli

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Its a Ghost town

alpine girder
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im keeping the propoganda up😂

blazing zealot
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They have 1/10th the interest as global does...

wraith oyster
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@xd look at ur game stop looking at whale’s pocket

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how are u so ****

blazing zealot
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Not To mention CN is basically calling this A Garbage Bastard Child of HSR and E7....

wraith oyster
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ER is a child suffering from down syndrome

tribal pagoda
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but ninfo has the same issue with the current team im running

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random turn 1 oneshot

wraith oyster
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because ninfo’s kit is designed for fast/oneshot team which is the team that really expensive

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their tester just used everyone at 5/5/5 full prowess and edited modules/shells

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and assume “eureka we found the solution lets sell them for big money”

burnt elm
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I think is time to trend "Clueless devs" lol

wraith oyster
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they’ve been that clueless since the beningging

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beginning

burnt elm
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we all cope

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lol

blazing zealot
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They had a Perfectly balanced PvE system in beta....

burnt elm
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and hope

blazing zealot
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Then they buffed it by 300% and added an Enrage Timer....

wraith oyster
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they killed ssania

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and why would they make sharon cannot be debuffed then showcased batsby in that dungeon

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truly dumb

burnt elm
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but its been a few months and a time has passed. and we all know you know players knows it everyone here knows it but, the ones that have been clueless.

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Its just time

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and time is running out

barren quest
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im just giving it till CN launch and see if they plan on fixing the game

burnt elm
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CN wouldve been malding in savagery there like PEAK critics

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that wouldve been content to see lmao

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they would be eating the devs xD while were like "We giving you a chance but its slowly going downhill"

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xD

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We would be like a givings warnings like an officer "Hey just giving you a warning but your free to go" CN: straight up gives the ticket lol

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brick with a note on it

blazing zealot
burnt elm
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I guess he did follow the devs instructions. lol didnt answer anything.

trail narwhal
trail narwhal
tribal pagoda
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tbh even if these two unit can crush rengo it isnt a good solution

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what happen if a new player doesnt have them

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are they fucked

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properly

trail narwhal
tribal pagoda
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what a short sighted

blazing zealot
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but beggers can't be choosers

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so

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well

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WE convince them to buff the units or nerf inferno

still iron
lyric lily
lyric lily
hearty hollow
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guys hear me out, nerf inferno and add new difficulty that gives proper 333 shells / 4 subs matrix

idle crest
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That's way too reasonable of a suggestion...

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you assume they want the game to be fun and rewarding.

small garden
blazing zealot
hearty hollow
idle crest
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Devs have 0 iq, if they did even a basic market research we wouldn't be at this predicament.

hearty hollow
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tbf i dont think the dev has any final say in this things

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and most likly their opinion wont account much

idle crest
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When I say Devs, I include who ever is calling the shots

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Him specifically

hearty hollow
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just remenber XD has gone public

blazing zealot
hearty hollow
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2019 i think

blazing zealot
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oh

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been awhile then

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No Long term plans

hearty hollow
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i mean they changed after the muse dash succes

idle crest
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It's cheaper to maintain a game then make a new one, investors are usually not complete morons, long term is always more money then short term

hearty hollow
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well im not to well versed on how cn company works

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but i got ptsd from those koreans like Nexon

lost karma
idle crest
lost karma
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It is a shame that Volkin didn’t do enough research about whatever the blue girl’s name is7482uwucat1 🌚 FrogeCryWorry

lost karma
alpine girder
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yeah, he didnt minmax like all the other liliam

lost karma
alpine girder
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should have play the game moreFrogCry

blazing zealot
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proven violet
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real talk, everyone know the truth but some ppl's comfort zone is live in denial and decide to have copium as their life support, truth is clear as day, it's human defense mechanism to keep what it doesn't want to hear at bay, unhealthy af but that's a psychology of the ill-minded weak ppl who refuses to face their reality

steel stream
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Rengo buff when

small garden
proven violet
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neither, it's against morons who let other ppl think for them instead of just simply seeing it infront of their eyes

gusty isle
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I did my run dv_frogKekOwO

bleak cove
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Lily Kloss Ninfo Ditting and I get >90% as long as you outspeed ennemies

wary atlas
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why isnt this close. the solution is just wait for cn if they dunk on it.

zinc bronze
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I better go back to Sania Viper than doing this casino

blazing zealot
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2 Lattice in.

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Need the Third.

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I guess

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for thicker shield

zinc bronze
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Shield will not get better

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I have 14k shield from maxing everything i can and he does more dmg than my shield have

narrow fulcrum
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why your run is 1:28? i think it should be around 1 min or less if want to be safer

bleak cove
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It is tho

small garden
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When people out here still gambling with sub 1 minute runs?

hidden seal
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So

hoary ore
zinc bronze
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For me its still rng

hoary ore
zinc bronze
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If diting get 3 attack in a row he is dead

hoary ore
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and yeah i still lose

zinc bronze
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Same as urs

hoary ore
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oh? same investment on chars?

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lattice wise

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cause going from 1-1-1 ninfoniel to 1-1-4 def helped way more for me

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with hp bonuses

zinc bronze
hoary ore
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you have higher hp too

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youve gotten 10s tho right

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10-0

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maybe because i have strive lily?

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idk

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cause she gets tm

modest drift
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I can do this and still think Rengo needs a nerf

zinc bronze
hoary ore
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in early progression

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its rough

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for players

zinc bronze
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If ads hit diting boss will just oneshot him

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So it depends on rng if he die or not

lost karma
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But have you tried her with liliam?

zinc bronze
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Even with best shield you can get

hoary ore
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and also when theyre on light early phase

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mine is 11k shield only

hoary ore
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!

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shouldve pulled liliam

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!!

lost karma
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Exactly

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Do some research next time

zinc bronze
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I like him with ditting more because of that mark

hoary ore
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^

zinc bronze
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She die same way as diting since she is squishy

hoary ore
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sometimes he lands the mark on boss it gets my run to 37-39 seconds

zinc bronze
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Just use Dark Moon on Kloss she snipe the boss lowering his hp and mark will always be on boss

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Because it targets lowest hp

hoary ore
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i can try that

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no good dark moon rip

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she gets slower

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no good 3 3 3 dmoon

zinc bronze
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But even with moon she sometimes miss def down and run is rip

bleak cove
# small garden You're saying time alone makes the run safer?

Im saying that your Ninfo, Lily, Kloss + DPS need to clear in 1 minute or lower if you want it to stable

If it takes longer you'll lose especialy if you are using same attributes

If you are slower than 1 minute, that just mean your DPS is lacking damages

zinc bronze
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U think 26k hp will make any difference ?

alpine girder
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yeah xD, for me at least 60% ish to 80-90

hidden seal
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Is that p5 or something

alpine girder
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im f2p

hidden seal
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How did you hit 3500 atk zf_hahaha

alpine girder
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idkdv_frogKekOwO

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got 2 purple atk bonus

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and red atk

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idk if that help

zinc bronze
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Just now abother bruiser attacked my def

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And that's 1 hit

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And mess have double hit on ult

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Thanks for free pts i guess

alpine girder
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i wish i have this issue

zinc bronze
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Also i don't understand what's wrong with people who lose as bruiser one time then try again and get beaten again, 1 time was not enough

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And there a lot people like that

gusty isle
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fomo from the balance changes

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rev nerfed and bb untouched

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and now u have a lot of ppl believe that bruisers are just unbeatable

zinc bronze
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And get onetaped by cleaver

gusty isle
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shhh it's against the agenda

blazing zealot
lyric lily
livid totem
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I MIGHT NEVER PULL FOR AN RGB Unit AGAIN

narrow fulcrum
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Why wouls you purposefully not pulling rgb when we getting lot of pull lol,it just making you regret if the unit got buffed and you dont have them again

somber crater
scenic swan
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"I might never pull again" that's a rather convoluted and dramatic way of saying imma uninstall

limber violet
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Today I will be unfortunately reviewing just Ninfo, because the 'niel' part is unlocked with lattices

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half character review meta

blazing zealot
alpine marsh
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@blazing zealot is your winrate consistently around 60%?

alpine marsh
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like its 50% usually?

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or 50% of the time 60%

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and other 50% of the time its a higher winrate

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lol

blazing zealot
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I need lily that fast to get the other two faster then the first add.

alpine marsh
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HMmmm

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You do have diting built tho right

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Just for reference?

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mainly cuz i can't help u much with massiah cuz i have no experience with him

blazing zealot
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Eff Acc Up = Slower then the First add

blazing zealot
alpine marsh
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but i might be able to help u get up to consistent 70-80% winrate with diting team

blazing zealot
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because the double dark

alpine marsh
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If willing to try

blazing zealot
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Massiah is P5

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and has the best results

alpine marsh
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again can't give much advice or help with anything specific with massiha cuz i have no idea how massiah runs go

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but my winrate with diting/liliam double dark comp running exact same team as u

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is around 70-80% average

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50 second consistent cleartime

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i can try to help u align your team to mine and see if that works for u

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my dps gear is not good either

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so it should be achievable, only thing would be if u have enough speed to match

blazing zealot
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Aite time to try diting

alpine marsh
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ye

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sent u my gears try to match as much as u can

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im not sure how much eff acc u actually need but

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i think 180 is probably high enough?

blazing zealot
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NOOOO Diting is too fast

alpine marsh
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u have to slow him down then

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either u slow him down

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or speed up your supports

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diting's actual gear is pretty neglible

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lol

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as in the actual subs don't matter that much

blazing zealot
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ok i got speed down

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time to check

alpine marsh
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especially if u miss a def down

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Running him w/ trash gearszf_hahaha

finite dirge
zinc bronze
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Ofc

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And full latice

finite dirge
azure pike
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i like how these threads just end up turning into subcommunities for discussion

hidden seal
azure pike
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thx yeah i've been wishy washy

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feeling more zen so i'll prob stick around now

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in the final stage of grief

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(acceptance)

lost karma