WE WANT A REAL RENGO NERF

[gusty isle]

pretty much

if ure already playing rta means u already beat all infernos

could be a nice addition to make clears faster or highers win rate

but it's whatever

anyway this could be the first skip banner

[zinc bronze]

The boy is good tho

His design is trash but values on skill are nice

[gusty isle]

seems mid to me

[zinc bronze]

He can clap for real

[gusty isle]

the vulnerable is nice

[zinc bronze]

Also his s1 has so many damage mods that it should hit like truck with momentum and kloss

[gusty isle]

but 390 is mid

[zinc bronze]

Its 3t cd

And its aoe with getting turn reset

So basically u use ult and its alr 2t cd

[gusty isle]

wait it's 80% turn push

[zinc bronze]

Can be 100%

If 5 targets

[gusty isle]

yeah but I'm thinking pvp again

[zinc bronze]

Imagine this

He get 100% turn push from Tsuki

Clap

Then auto

Then she -1t with her s2

Then clap ult again

Again get turn meter

And what it it was tsuki with codex ?

The downside is he is Blue

And there Green bruisers

[gusty isle]

also the counters will fk him up

my lilith is struggling in this meta

[zinc bronze]

That's as well

[gusty isle]

muti aoe hit is really dangerous

she's dying while on bb with 2 hp modules

[zinc bronze]

The boy has a lot more potential than this support

Devs are trolling us

[gusty isle]

tbh I don't see him being that good in pvp

[zinc bronze]

Shit design of character nice values on kit

[gusty isle]

the healers will cut in

[zinc bronze]

Great design shit value

[gusty isle]

and the bruisers will just kill in counters

[zinc bronze]

As a man who abuses doki

If u get 100% meter they can use giga or lh 100 times and it will not cut anything

Because u reach 100% first

[gusty isle]

well yeah there is also that demon mio

but it all depends on b/p

but for real tho I think this is a skip banner for a lot of ppl

[zinc bronze]

Yep its kinda nothingburger

[gusty isle]

it's basically for the nerf rengo cries

[zinc bronze]

We struggle on lattice economy as it was

[gusty isle]

girl is good with 2 lattice on s3 on codex

vs rengo

[wise orchid]

is she even gonna help people who can't clear it now cause 5 turn cd aint helping you unless ur runs are around 1 min

[gusty isle]

maybe even 0 lattice to make consistent clears

[wise orchid]

even with codex

[gusty isle]

yeah ure gonna debuff him with dinah or something then nuke with liliam

[zinc bronze]

SR Sania

The god of Rengo

[gusty isle]

yeah I been using her and viper

upgraded to kloss with the latest event for faster clears

[zinc bronze]

I still yeli lily sania viper

Its slow but i know it will be done

[gusty isle]

funny thing is I don't even need rengo anymore

for now at least

want jackals and gigabytes more

pretty much non of the rengo shells are good in oiled up bruiser mirrors

except codex on doki

which I already got

[livid totem]

do you think XD knows

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[upper widget]

could be the one that take debuff 🙂

[magic tusk]

revelation liliam and then this

[smoky owl]

[hidden seal]

Daily nerf Rengo bump

Fuck this boss and the game design vision it rode in on

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[alpine girder]

fk sharon more

fk that b

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/pro-gamer-chubbycell-prithvi-pro-gamer-gif-19597910

@tropic totem ^

[tropic totem]

[small garden]

you the wrong gosu?

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-poe-dameron-theres-just-too-many-of-them-there-are-too-many-of-them-too-many-of-them-gif-21443799

[tropic totem]

U are wrong

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[limber violet]

meanwhile Rengo defenders:

[dapper hamlet]

dont think anyone says that... more like the devs say "leave rengo alone so alot of the playerbase wont get ahead of CN"

[small garden]

Jack tells me i should be patient
"It's a marathon, not a sprint" he saysa
I shouldnt try to beat the boss in 5 days, they spent years cobbling together this passion filled labour of love
They dont want us to beat it too quickly

[dapper hamlet]

jack lies

[blazing zealot]

jack is AI

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/my-entire-adult-life-has-been-one-big-lie-joey-gladstone-dave-coulier-fuller-house-my-adult-life-is-a-fake-gif-17868429

[restive hawk]

so are these new units just cooked without lattice or what

[hybrid pecan]

Check archive. They’re cheeks w/o lattice invest

[restive hawk]

5 turn cooldown on ninfoniel without 1/5/5

[hidden seal]

The girl should still be able to work in Rengo with Codex and 1 1 3

[restive hawk]

and batsby is a full invest dps

he's probably very bad unless you're using him just for debuff extension

[hidden seal]

Britbong is greedy for more than just fish in his ass that's for sure

[restive hawk]

very bad without lattice*

[cobalt quartz]

Skill issue. Rengo does not need nerf. Game has a lot of issues, Rengo ain’t one of them

[restive hawk]

I can clear rengo just fine and have been farming him for a long time now

doesn't change the fact that rengo is BS and overtuned

[cobalt quartz]

Ya still hard disagree. Fight really isn’t that hard

[small garden]

i am running out of meme ideas for you pro gamer lot

[livid totem]

ppl really wanna gatekeep rengo for what 😭

[cobalt quartz]

Bro I’m F2P, started playing a month after release and beat rengo just fine

[small garden]

just spend more time in rengo(fight) if you like it that much

[livid totem]

for the record I also have been consistently beating rengo now

not 100% but it's like 80% clear

[cobalt quartz]

Ya I’m 80% with under 2m clears

[livid totem]

rengo is just rng roulette between elements, debuffs/silence and also that 10% global miss rate. really doesn't need to do all 3 at once

or ig 4 if u count debuff and silence separately

then there's the soft team restriction of not wanting to stack elements

u can get away with stacking 2 but you need bloodbath

[cobalt quartz]

I’m letting you cook

I understand it’s difficult fight but the idea that’s overtuned is ridiculous to me

Def need to improve shells and mods when you get to that fight but it can be comfortably beaten without best units in the game

[livid totem]

if it was an anisync/ember trek boss fight id say it's fine

but since it's a farming stage with some important pvp shells

it's overturned

[small garden]

did you strategize on your own to find the winning team? or just use a youtube video?
what team are you using?

[livid totem]

im assuming the f2p comp of diting/vice/viper/sania

[cobalt quartz]

I used recent clears to figure out a team

I was using diting, vice, ling and kloss

I now have Liliam so use her for much more efficient and faster clears

[finite dirge]

all these free pulls to get the characters but no lattice to invest

[small garden]

pretty much

[cobalt quartz]

“Invest wisely” lol

[finite dirge]

kinda regret investing in tiamat s3

[cobalt quartz]

I only have 2 max skilled SSR units in Liliam and Yeli

[finite dirge]

[livid totem]

yea i think lattice gain is fine (imo) but it's just resources are spread so thin because different bosses need different units (usually)

and then experimentation is like punishing lol

seanb invested in nahor only to find him mediocre

[finite dirge]

my rilmo still hostaging 4 of my lattice

[livid totem]

lel

[finite dirge]

[cobalt quartz]

I’d say that’s the biggest issue, there is no room for experimentation or you brick your account

[finite dirge]

gimme back my lattice rat

[small garden]

understatement
we're in the dark ages
thrown in a bonfire for being a witch if you try to experiment

[livid totem]

it's the most frustrating thing, given the size of the roster when the game is very new

[hidden seal]

His ignore def also punishes using any def scaling unit in particular

[livid totem]

and they basically disregarded the 1 new launch per launch cycle in the qna vid for china

so now it's back to 1 ld -> 2 rgb cycle

instead d of 1/1

[hidden seal]

It'll be this way until the end of next year if they really want to reach 100 units ASAP

Considering it's 3 SSRs every 6 weeks and 1 SR every couple months at our current rate

[livid totem]

then u add on the fact that there's still non existent quality check + shadownerfs/buffs

like the video says batsby can extend dot, but the archives doesnt specify dot

[cobalt quartz]

It also specified his increased damage is applied to enemy animus.

Hoping that’s just translation error and it will also apply to bosses

[blazing zealot]

YEP And we All knew it

[blazing zealot]

Gotta Love that they said help is on the way... (When they Only Test at 5/5/5 and Max Dupe)

Clowns when it comes to balancing.

[ancient dock]

And the speed is locked behind 4 levels in S1

[blazing zealot]

And its not even insta win for them at 5/5/5 Max Dupe. its still difficult.

[restive hawk]

oof

[blazing zealot]

"Dupes Don't matter though" (Even though Max Dupe is basically nerfing all content by 10-15%)

[restive hawk]

ninfoniel better make rengo beg if I'm putting 4/5/5 into a character for one dungeon

[blazing zealot]

She won't

[restive hawk]

but what if we "try pairing her with liliam"!

certainly then she's broken

[blazing zealot]

[hidden seal]

Should be good with Liliam in Rengo with Codex on 1 1 1 or just 1 1 3 tbh

[restive hawk]

[blazing zealot]

Is your Liliam 5/5/5 Max Dupe?

[hidden seal]

I'm not coping that's just the numbers

[ancient dock]

Pair her with liliam, who already has an attack buff, so the attack buff is wasted

[hidden seal]

Mine?

[restive hawk]

uhhh my liliam is 1/1/1

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[nocturne stratus]

so is it time to make the "Ninfoniel and Batsby are lackluster" and "Ninfoniel and Batsby powercreep will break the game" posts back to back?

[blazing zealot]

not yet

[restive hawk]

surely my 6 star, 1/1/1 liliam will one shot rengo right guys

[nocturne stratus]

no way

[livid totem]

the tragedy of batsby is his fuckin ugly ass tail

[blazing zealot]

Gotta pull them and then get clapped 0/10 in Rengo.

[restive hawk]

with 1/1/1 ninfoniel

[nocturne stratus]

was looking forward to it

[blazing zealot]

at 1/1/1 Nin

[restive hawk]

ONG

THANK GOD SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT

[hidden seal]

Reddit likes the tail

[livid totem]

he didn't need to be HALF LEVIATHAN

[restive hawk]

I hate that dumb ahhh tail

scaly nation rise up

[livid totem]

he literally works bank security

tf

[ancient dock]

who said it's a tail

[livid totem]

it's a dildo

idk

they made a normal dude but they needed to make em quirky 🤪

so they shoved a tail up his

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-bottom-funny-minions-gif-3428229

[livid totem]

💀

[potent ferry]

Is there another feedback channel somewhere that we dont know the existence of or what. Idk who they are listening to but it's not this community thats for sure

[stiff cliff]

Suggestions

[small garden]

idk, some players had these sentiments, im thinking undercover devs

[potent ferry]

Probably

[narrow fulcrum]

already talked....this post actually just extension of #1384230665461170346 which people already ask....so aint no way they gonna nerf rengo since the old post already ignored while they dont do nerf anymore

[lost karma]

You just noticed that?

C pretty much said “you all have trash ideas. Ima talk to Paul now”

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you-should-leave-itysl-focus-group-ruben-rabasa-shut-up-paul-gif-27678763

[fast fjord]

not true please dont spread this agenda

i just spoke too hastily without explaining enough and keep underestimating this comm xd

was humbled on a lot of things and was able to see a bigger picture about issues , but that doesnt mean every feedback is wrong

just so many flaws in a lot of them that i have to really dive into properly

before rushing to push it to devs in time

so im on a stressful schedule to figure this out and what i can try and push for

without it causing more problems and kneejerk reactions and missed marks

[north trellis]

Who is Paul?

[small garden]

[small garden]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1407872238706888786

[hidden seal]

It's a meme, dw about it

[lost karma]

?

[north trellis]

Rengo effect resistance should be nerf a bit too

Imagine

Rengo Abyss difficult

[livid totem]

reference to this

[north trellis]

Module shop revamp was a L for community

[livid totem]

u don't wanna spend 22usd for 1 4 line module that may or may not roll into flop stats?

how dare you

u should be ashamed

[stiff cliff]

people r spending 22$ for a- okay

y'all kinda crazy

[livid totem]

22$ over 2 weeks cuz

u need 2 weekly packs lol

each costs 11$

[finite dirge]

All they gotta do is just make it so 100% chance to land means it is guarenteed to land and there will be no more problems with pve

I dont understand why they gotta include artificial difficulty with base 10% chance to resist in pve and on top of that, bosses having an insane amount of effect res

[trail narwhal]

Surely this not the unit to save us from rengo. 😭😭😭

[livid totem]

probably gonna be the next LD unit

cuz idk these 2 are quite good but I'm not buying the "specifically designed to crush rengo" lol

[scenic swan]

Maybe when they're fully latticed up and maxed out

They're specifically designed to crush nico nana tho!!!!1

[proven violet]

Remember the words guys:

"Dreamscape will fix the game economy"
Keep these words in mind and apply it to any announcement text you see

[trail narwhal]

That’s every unit then. If I completely lacctice my current team, I will have no issue.

Sigh. It’s really frustrating.

[trail narwhal]

Quite good at? 😪😪 she was suppose to be a PVE unit. 😩😩😩

[crystal cedar]

ok i 100% dislike this game

[wraith oyster]

so the 2 new animuses didnt fix the rengo, either you need a really cracked dps or u needa run on bb

really W move devs u guys r so ahh ngl

[wraith oyster]

lattices into her is wild gl with that expensive team

[floral cedar]

@spare crown I found a cycopath fan

[still iron]

Why what's wrong with Cycopath videos?

[floral cedar]

How many years u watched him

[north trellis]

Devs change 1 week event like chaku adventures with their rewards and shop for forge event instead done forge a additional event ,, so we lose a lot resources as gems/pulls/energy/Shadowprints , this devs no stop doing dirty moves

[spare crown]

[zinc hill]

Fken cycopath

Pos

[sturdy rock]

imagine in PvP focus game, you struggling for farming gear 😂

[spare crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[blazing zealot]

Imagine having a Perfectly balanced beta and Buffing the Farming Stages 300-500%

[still iron]

Deleted cycopath video sry guys

[spare crown]

its ok we all make mistakes

[still iron]

https://youtu.be/Y737TR_FsbQ?si=hfc6eZnwr-cYSRI8

detailed guide.. hope this one is ok 🤞

[wary atlas]

if u have lily and liliam there no point to gimp ur comp when u can use dinah and kazu

a better show case would be without liliam, lily or both

and showing off other dps like rosa, diting etc

and highlight subpar dps with nin can be runned

[zinc bronze]

I try Diting Kloss Doki Ninfo and it works but my Ninfo is maxed and Doki has a lot of Investment

So not great example

[magic tusk]

her s1 maxed too?

[zinc bronze]

Nah i don't need speed

But doki have maxed yes

[still iron]

Just tried with Lily s1 maxed, 0 lattice Kloss, ninfo s3 lvl 3 and Liliam/Yeli. Still failed. Sad. Devs should have just made the boss easier. False advertising 👎

[hidden seal]

He's a content thief and an annoying loser

[magic tusk]

what's the lore with that guy

[hidden seal]

Well-known for lifting comps in e7 and occasionally stealing entire actual YouTube footage and editing it to call it his own team

And he will argue til the cows come home that actually he's a PvE god and uhhh he only steals comps from Asian players who aren't YouTubers

He should be ran out of any community he parasitizes

[marble mantle]

Time to riot

[magic tusk]

same guy?

[hidden seal]

Yeah

[lost karma]

Yeah just use yeli and liliam

Ez

[finite dirge]

Both fully lattice too

[hidden seal]

I guess the advantage of her over Beyonce is the immunity

[zinc bronze]

And more atk for Revelation

[still iron]

I still fail to clear Rengo even with Ninfo s3 at lvl 3 with Liliam and Yeli maxed lattice. Lily s1 maxed couldn't help too. Anyone same boat as me?

[small garden]

Im under the boat
Just a corpse staying in my non-inferno rengo lane

[hidden seal]

Rev isn't super relevant to Rengo speed clears currently though

It's all Ditty + Liliam

[lost karma]

tbh she has way more synergy with yeli than liliam

idk why they didnt say "Try her out with Yeli"

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-darling-brave-bold-i-dont-have-answer-to-you-gif-9797205

[alpine marsh]

what team comp have yall been using with ninfo?

serious question

still trying to get my rengo online

i can run the rng 50 second liliam team

[lost karma]

According to C she is broken you guys just dont see it yet

[hidden seal]

Ariadne says she saw a 45s clear with Diting where the shield didn't break but refused to source

[alpine marsh]

but success rate is giga shit

[pseudo anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGNpgzsVfg&t=607s

didnt refuse to source thread got locked

[hidden seal]

Tyvm

[alpine marsh]

oo ty

[hidden seal]

Thought you just ignored it to keep shitting on the guy lmao

[alpine marsh]

hope minimal lattice needed

T-T

[hidden seal]

Well neither here nor there let's keep this thread unlocked

[hidden seal]

Oh it's just a Lily Yeli winmore

[pseudo hull]

Not so Op

[fast fjord]

be gentle

[alpine marsh]

followed the build in the video?

[fast fjord]

thanks guys

[pseudo hull]

Mine is 1/1/1

[alpine marsh]

maybe thats why

[lost karma]

I wouldnt recommend this team tbh

[alpine marsh]

i tink one in video is

what

1/1/3?

why

im already running that team except with red cachi

[lost karma]

you need both dps fully skilled and have pretty high damage sets

[alpine marsh]

both dps?

[pseudo anvil]

why do yall expect 1/1/1 units to perform to their full potential when its obvious that units have their utility behind lattice

[lost karma]

the yeli liliam

[alpine marsh]

its not yeli liliam tho

its just liliam

OR yeli

[lost karma]

oh wait nvm im dumb

[alpine marsh]

and diting can be used too

[pseudo hull]

Kloss 1/1/5, Lily 5/5/1, Liliam 5/5/5 and Ninfo 1/1/1

Im pretty sure that my unitys are well equipped

[alpine marsh]

yea but maybe the 1/1/3 ninfo is a dealbreaker

[lost karma]

you could try momentum with furyedge but probably hard to get

[pseudo anvil]

[pseudo hull]

i dont have one of those hehe

Im using this one because its the only i got

[fast fjord]

keep things here from getting toxic guys ty

[alpine marsh]

all i want to ask c is

if i need to clear rengo consistently

will i potentially regret

latticing ninfo

i haven't done it yet

[lost karma]

youre stacking a lot of attack on this tbh.

[fast fjord]

check out the research ppl been doing with her

and then decide

but I can confidently say she will speed up clears and make them much more consistent

and people will discover that

as they are already

[alpine marsh]

good enough for me

[short dew]

whats ur rengo team bud

[gilded bluff]

They are really good units but they are not crushing rengo as promised

[still iron]

Is c a XD staff?

[alpine marsh]

hmmm

i wonder if i should run white fang over count

with liliam when running nin

[slate orbit]

She does speed up your rengo runs

[zinc bronze]

She is great and all but that abysmally low base hp is painful to see for a unit that have scaling from hp

[slate orbit]

But I doubt it'll help newbies clear rengo tho

[fast fjord]

youll see this isn’t an issue

[pseudo anvil]

if clearing in 40-50s with 90% winrate isnt crushing it idk what is for you , do you expect units to just go in as 1/1/1 and instakill 100-0 boss on first skill cast

[alpine marsh]

i just hope showcase videos

[short dew]

depends on what pve area. should use count so the equalize hp is higher

[alpine marsh]

don't have like, inferno count shells

[pseudo anvil]

she has one of higher hp pools tho

[alpine marsh]

and inferno codex...

[fast fjord]

thank you ariadne

[hidden seal]

She slowed down my Rengo and made it less consistent

[hybrid pecan]

How’d I know he was full of shit

[slate orbit]

They locked inferno thread man, we are lost in the jungle

[alpine marsh]

i mean u do kinda have to adapt

[fast fjord]

kongh

ur on timeout

[zinc bronze]

She doesn't even my Sania has more

[hybrid pecan]

What do u want

[fast fjord]

keep it chill here

[pseudo anvil]

u dont need inferno shell for anything in this game imo , as long as shell is corect and your stats/sets u are good to go

[hybrid pecan]

I’m not even doing anything

[alpine marsh]

hmm ok

[copper sleet]

The thing is, YOU asked for feedback. We gave it. But then you silenced us because it goes against your narrative and only allows the one supporting your narrative.

And here I thought my expectations couldn't get any lower. Lmao.

[white fossil]

idk man, you(not only you specifically) need to moderate feedback section more and just get rid of these idiots I think its fine to criticize you but some people are just out of touch and just mean nearly insulting

[fast fjord]

read what they are saying before attacking

@ kongh

[hidden seal]

No Lily no Yeli 🤷 I'm just gonna go get my work done and see if anyone comes up with anything that doesn't rely on every other unit in the comp being the best in the game lol

[fast fjord]

because players are making hate threads before understanding the animus

[alpine marsh]

imma be real

i am living breathing proof

[fast fjord]

i will open threads again when people understand more

[alpine marsh]

that C doesn't silence people's opinions

cuz if he did

i don't think i would be here

[pseudo anvil]

idk but if i was in c's place id be serving bans to ppl left and right

[short dew]

ya hes so much better than me

[jade schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396502631613993176/1408114197249785909/824439043563192320.gif?ex=68a8900a&is=68a73e8a&hm=03addceb8eb54c67e99621b7d65e3caac8839fc02173444308aebe5bc1b912e9&

[fast fjord]

yeah I’m getting a bit more strict now

[short dew]

i wouldve locked up 95% of the disc

[pseudo anvil]

in asylum ye

[white fossil]

frfr this kongh guy especially needs to go, spreading hate everywhere, not only today for example

[fast fjord]

react to that message to vote on it

[short dew]

its just disheartening to see all the hate in general when new players join and just ask genuine questions

[hidden seal]

The strictness one?

[white fossil]

besides from his absolute garbage takes he offers no value at all

[pseudo anvil]

every single time he spoke in any thread or to me he was doomposting , i wouldnt be surprised if he starts doomposting weather and air one of these days

[hidden seal]

The air quality index has been fucked by Canadian wildfires ngl

[fast fjord]

remember ur a white knight

[lost karma]

what message did he send?

[fast fjord]

he has a long history

of toxicity

long long history

[pseudo anvil]

ye im certainly not one of the more critical ppl regarding changes and stuff

[hidden seal]

Are we voting on banning Kong or on you being strict? Because having an impromptu vote on banning a user is a really, really bad idea man

[fast fjord]

I’m joking dont worry

but kongh needs to chill

[hidden seal]

Ok

[fast fjord]

he usually comes around in these moments but

needs to stop attacking people and using such toxic language all the time

or else I will ban

[pseudo anvil]

bro lives to doompost he feeds and lives by it

[fast fjord]

ik he reading this

people don’t deserve those toxic words if you haven’t done enough research urself

[magic sandal]

i think the only thing that i'm actually annoyed about rn is removing rgb summons from the shell story event shop

[white fossil]

You guys are way too lax when it comes to banning and timeouts.

[fast fjord]

it’s contributed to this community toxicity and I take blame

[pseudo anvil]

like if u go to ANY animus thread or any in general and look up kongh messages i bet he is trashtalking either someone or something

[fast fjord]

but when I do take action I get harrassed by thoudands of people

it’s a double edged sword

[pseudo anvil]

but its fine he got timed out ppl can talk now

[fast fjord]

that is impossible

ppl harrass my personal life and other things

[white fossil]

welcome to gaming industry

[fast fjord]

it gets really bad

[gilded bluff]

M clearing rengo with kloss vice diting she can't replace my lingluo with that long s3 cooldown plus a bunch of issues all m saying she not gonna do anything for me in rengo also m not saying she needs a buff or anything of the sort

[gusty isle]

just burn them all

[fast fjord]

when u silence or ban the wrong person

[short dew]

expect my lawyers c

[pseudo anvil]

Thats your problem exactly. "long s3 cooldowns" , why do you care abt base cooldowns of a unit if u are going for speedclear u arent playing a 5 min battle where u want as many ults as possible u only care abt first 2-3 actions of each animus thats all and codex enables her to have 2 ults in those 2-3 actions

[proven violet]

Rip my one and only channel in this server, what's the blue balling reasoning, it was just hang out channel at this point

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1384230665461170346

[gilded bluff]

@fast fjord this guy calling people idiot is not acceptable otherwise this is just looking like hypocrisy

[craggy grove]

Where do i file my complaint? Why are the new packs limited i want to buy multiple of each.... so stupid

[alpine marsh]

Alright imma try this

Pray for me guys

[slate orbit]

It's no fun anymore

[pseudo anvil]

it wont work

[zinc bronze]

Yep

[alpine marsh]

why not?

[zinc bronze]

Its smoke bomb

[alpine marsh]

[pseudo anvil]

bcs u obviously have wrong build

alicorn is not helping u

in any way

use codex

[alpine marsh]

fk

[slate orbit]

You need codex for rengo 100%

[alpine marsh]

my codex is on my kloss

;-;

[proven violet]

Unironically best feedback channel for the game

[pseudo anvil]

do u have dark moon for kloss ?

[lost karma]

which is farming rengo

[alpine marsh]

kinda but it has the wrong set ;-;

i need to farm sharon

but now theres a stupid module event

that forces u to farm modules

[jade schooner]

Ah yes the shell that you get from clearing the dungeon that you require the shell for

[alpine marsh]

instead of content that helps u progress

;-;

[slate orbit]

Cope farm hell rengo to get swift codex

[jade schooner]

[pseudo anvil]

u can do it with regular codex u dont need inferno one. None of 6p sets are gonna improve your ninfoniel regarding rengo one shot.

[zinc bronze]

Depends on investment

[wooden flare]

The new girl is a fucking joke, her base hp is very low (SR units have more health) and both her cooldowns are too long. What were they even thinking?

[somber crater]

You only force yourself

Havent touched that event with a foot pole

[jade schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396502631613993176/1408114197249785909/824439043563192320.gif?ex=68a8900a&is=68a73e8a&hm=03addceb8eb54c67e99621b7d65e3caac8839fc02173444308aebe5bc1b912e9&

[pseudo anvil]

she has one of higher hp pools in the game comparable to lingluo

[fast fjord]

you’re not wrong

[white fossil]

he called me worse things several times now you can stop now, he wont let you hit

[fast fjord]

but yes

kongh has been much worse so as long as yall both calm down

and find peace

we good

no one gets banned

[hybrid pecan]

Thank u

I have not

[fast fjord]

hey bro ur not safe

[hybrid pecan]

That’s just objectively false

[wooden flare]

Ling healing doesn't scale with her hp and she has less hp than sania

[zinc bronze]

This is what i call higher pull not 12.8 with 3 dupes and 6* 50 lvl

[fast fjord]

let’s not argue here

[wooden flare]

Her shield is microscopic

[gilded bluff]

I could say the same for most of the people he was replying to

[hidden seal]

Raid or smite on codex might help people who can't get the right SPD tbh

[hybrid pecan]

I’d like for u to address what was just said

Exofate is right on the money

[slate orbit]

Well, if you can't sub 1 minute clear rengo with ninfo, you can't use her for long rengo fights, just use ling

[fast fjord]

if u wanna argue and try and prove to me u havent been toxic just dm me let’s not leave it in this thread

not the right place to do it

[gusty isle]

ure penis is microscopic

[hybrid pecan]

I am toxic when being disrespected

[lost karma]

tbh she isnt meant to sustain. she is only for speed running purposes. she isnt needed

[zinc bronze]

My build

[hybrid pecan]

Retaliation does not make me toxic

[fast fjord]

i will time out again

[hybrid pecan]

Feel free to respond to my dm

[fast fjord]

if you continue this

[white fossil]

nah

this discord is lost

[wooden flare]

Someone is really projecting hard

[wary grove]

Kongh immediately resorted to personal insults towards me when I disagreed with him earlier. Just ban him.

[fast fjord]

always happens

[burnt sail]

Any news on the PvP side of things? Next week or we have to wait for the season to end?

[white fossil]

i might join in a few months when mods are able to moderate things properly

have a good one

[fast fjord]

why id like him to dm me if he can prove otherwise

[hybrid pecan]

Go look at that conversation

[white fossil]

disgusting behaviors

[fast fjord]

lets move on

[proven violet]

This thread turning to 2v2v2v2 SC2 map

[hybrid pecan]

Answer my DM. We can talk there

[gilded bluff]

Nope I have seen you here being toxic when making your point here more than enough m just gonna call out hypocrisy when I see one

[wooden flare]

Her unique buff is linked to her shield so if you lose it if someone spit on it it's not very good

[slate orbit]

What's your comp? Geniunely asking coz all I see is lily, liliam/yeli, kloss, nin

[fast fjord]

let me get to the office i havent been able to leave my home bc this community wnats to kill eachother

[jade schooner]

Don’t have to announce your departure homie

[tired hare]

feels like og cod times

[lost karma]

youre supposed to out speed the boss in speed runnign though

[wary grove]

Hey C, sorry people are wild. Even if XD messes up no one deserves personal attacks.

[lost karma]

its not going to help you get your first clear

100%

[zinc bronze]

Diting Kloss ninfo Doki/Lily both works because my Doki has high investment

[craggy grove]

Either reduce rengo hp or the dmg he deals..... IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE to be doing 3-4minute clears unless ur a whale. Morons!! This is a gacha game i dont want to be spending my entire day autorunning it

[pseudo anvil]

18.345 v 18.930
Ninfo v Lingluo

[zinc bronze]

But look at the base

[slate orbit]

Don't treat her as a sustain but an attack buffer

[pseudo anvil]

^

[wooden flare]

So you are saying she is onto useful maybe in speed team that could already farm rengo without her and that she is useless everywhere else in the game

[pseudo anvil]

she is a buffer first sustainer 2nd

[proven violet]

Chris it's not wise to remove the sewers aka https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1384230665461170346

The rats and roaches will invade other threads, you don't close a quarantie zone

[pseudo anvil]

she is p strong in pvp from what ive seen ppl test in rta discord

[lost karma]

pretty much. if you were speed running before you dont need her.

[slate orbit]

Inferno thread is just a hangout zone, we chill there

[wooden flare]

Are you stupid? Her shield scales based on her max hp, ling healing doesn't

[blazing zealot]

As a Unit that Is a Direct Counter Yes I expect people at 1/1/1 who are 1-7 to go up to 90% WinRate.

[gilded bluff]

Thank you

[slate orbit]

Yeah, I can see nin opening up speed clears for people, just need to research and speed tune well

[wooden flare]

I can farm rengo faster and much more consistently with red cachi than the new SSR...

[proven violet]

Anyone arguing about a dogwater unit should get a time out imo, imagine discord PvP for a lame ass unit

[pseudo anvil]

Whole point is its enough for her to do the job she is supposed to do. Bcs of answers just like this one of yours is why ppl cry abt units in rta. What do u want her to have more hp and shield 50k in rta or what when healing/shielding is alr a major issue in rta. She does her job just FINE for pve and is good in pvp , same as liliam was yet liliam got buffed bcs of this community being clueless and refusing to listen to what ppl said abt her that were using her on high lvl.

[zinc bronze]

Yep Red Cachi does that if u have Liliam

[wooden flare]

Yeah but there are always some white knights that will defend every slop unit they release

[pseudo anvil]

Thats a bad mentality tho it will never happen. Unless they want to do a major power creep in the game no unit will do that. Thats just being short sighted and wanting for game to go in absolutely terrible direction of power creep

[short dew]

rengo is higher wr with kaz liliam lily kloss

mainly due to atk break

[blazing zealot]

Literally the Difficulty of Beta. Fo all non off element units....

I want a NErf

but Don't say something is a Silver Bullet when its not.

[wooden flare]

What I want is just a little more base hp and not 2 skill with 5 turn cooldown, after a couple of turns she is literally useless for an eternity

[blazing zealot]

Nerf all Farming Stages 30%

[slate orbit]

Just make rengo female, it'll solve all the problems of the game

[pseudo anvil]

Ye but thats a overtuned difficulty issue not a unit issue, rengo needs a nerf there is no point trying to make a unit for rengo as none will make him easy or fast in any way without being massive power creep.

[alpine marsh]

i gave her 3 lattice and codex

[blazing zealot]

Yeah thats the point....

[alpine marsh]

still doesn't work

;-;

[blazing zealot]

They Sold her as an Answer Directly to the Overtuned Difficulty.

[hidden seal]

None of this would be happening if they took 10% off Rengo and/or turned down def ignore

[blazing zealot]

^

[south salmon]

by closing more and more threads of people questioning not if an unit is garbage,but if its is garbage with 0 lattices(the standard where a char NEEDS TO BE USABLE since this game is stingy as fuck),c you are making the situation look even worse than it is.
then lets not talk about the shady ass removal of summon currency form event shops
do we have info on how long did it take to go on with that decision please

[gilded bluff]

This is the problem

[gusty isle]

check samool video on it

[hidden seal]

And we would all be having fun with her

[magic tusk]

true true,, but they should'nt hype this unit up as the answer for clearing rengoku.

[wooden flare]

You just need to max her S2 and S3 and maybe you'll have a semi decent support

[blazing zealot]

This is a Self Inflicted wound

[jade schooner]

Holy

[blazing zealot]

unless they wanna Start Giving 4 Lattices anytime you pull a New unit

[magic sandal]

ngl the rgb summons being stealth removed from the event shop is not a good look

[jade schooner]

It’s 2.30 am for me but I can’t go to sleep because this drama is too good

[hybrid pecan]

Whatcha mean guys? We just haven’t tested enough

[lost karma]

thats the problem my guy

[hybrid pecan]

Wait til we figure out the insane synergies that exist

[south salmon]

i have no idea how anyone can look at the previous extremely hyped wall or text that was presented to the community as the savior of the game and look at where we are now,every single decision after that has been pure incapacity to understand what people want

[jade schooner]

Stealth changing things is the XD way

[blazing zealot]

@jade schooner @floral cedar Im Taking The Day Off Send me a Server Invite in 18 hours

[magic sandal]

pretty much everything else can be attributed to being out of touch

[jade schooner]

They have done it since the release of the game

[jade schooner]

Will do!

[magic sandal]

but the summons feels more scummy for some reason

[floral cedar]

Bye serra

[copper sleet]

Silencing those who disagree with you is never okay. That only shows power abuse, gaslighting and narrative manipulation.

What you did was damage control because the unit was just released and it would be affecting your sales if the unit got bad narratives.

You sold the unit under the pretense that she would directly counter Rengo. She didn't. Even Batsby doing a better job in countering Inferno mode (Aurora/Niconana).

[left terrace]

hey guys, ninfo made my rengo run 100%. this is my feedback. buff rengo pls. i didn't even need to use lattice.

[tired hare]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-pikachu-pikachu-skill-issue-gif-3559280283046901335

[floral cedar]

Our biggest megathread got nuked this is very concerning and the reason is not even valid to lock it

[blazing zealot]

This Is Dogshit and With Inferno Difficulty Thread Closed I have no Reason to Check in here. I will be back I love the game but I need to cool off so I don't Rage Quit.

[floral cedar]

So talking in inferno thread magically buffs a unit

To peak

[blazing zealot]

[hybrid pecan]

No sense allowed here. Careful or the dictator will come around and put u on timeout while talking shit about u w the other goofballs

[pseudo anvil]

But they didn't lie in fact ninfoniel does exactly what it says. Makes it much easier to get into rengokutsu with fast and consistent clears, much easier than without her when u try to make a fast and consistant clear.

[reef raven]

[tired hare]

are you going to keep reposting your screenshot?

[floral cedar]

Just like they removed inferno talk from hyper talk

[somber crater]

Lmfaoooo did he really lock that thread

[hybrid pecan]

Yup

[magic tusk]

my team was consistent before. Now it's rng with her. It's quicker tho

[somber crater]

There goes my general

[jade schooner]

Just nuke this game

[gusty isle]

seems we are getting another liliam situation

[somber crater]

Guess they want toxicity in general instead

[jade schooner]

And release Etheria restart 2

In like 2 years

Like holy

[south salmon]

@fast fjord i hate to ping people but being disrespectful to your playerbase not once,twice,thrice but 20 times a month can give this game maybe 1 more month before they start to play the new shiny gacha,obv not your fault,but closing these threads kinda making you look like an asshole i cant say otherwise

[proven violet]

Chris is stressed, he let out his frusteration on the real general chat in ER

[jade schooner]

So many issues with this game

[hidden seal]

Hot take but Inferno Difficulty thread has been significantly less toxic than general for weeks

[somber crater]

Bro after such a long time he finally locked it 😂😂😂

[gusty isle]

get ready for her to get brain dead buffed and hurt pvp even more

[gilded bluff]

Conveniently forgetting the part were they said she would crush specifically rengo

[hybrid pecan]

Damnit don’t bring him back in here.. he’s gonna lock this thread too and then put everyone on timeout

[tired hare]

we need ydcb to spin the wheel again with 20 perf lattices as rewards only

[magic tusk]

nah please don't buff her

[fast fjord]

people need to do research before making posts that is all and I will be more lax later

[slate orbit]

I miss inferno thread

[fast fjord]

is what it is

just cant let a liliam situation happen again

and i gotta take that blow for now from the ppl who are hating

[pseudo anvil]

it could be because your previous team was already set up and u are trying to use her without same investment u put into other units. Take someone new as example of getting into rengo clearing. It would be much easier to build team around her with just 2 lattice invested into her than to do the work of minmaxing 4 units for it.

[zinc bronze]

I think i understanded why ninfo hp is so low, if unit can buff and have hp scaling its base hp will be at the bottom

[lost karma]

All that needed to happen was actually nurfing rengo though

[hybrid pecan]

Hey btw 3 lattices puts nin shield at 25% on a 40k hp unit that’s a 10k shield

[floral cedar]

So talking in inferno thread magically buffs a unit I see

[proven violet]

you close friends hang out just because they say the new unit is mid ?

[south salmon]

people need to make research doesnt mean they should need the lattice to make these units usable

[fast fjord]

ty

[somber crater]

As someone that already did tests in all content and pvp with ninfo, she's a mid release at worst decent at best

[gusty isle]

u want more??

[south salmon]

especially in a game with no resets/ ways to try a full skilled unit

[fast fjord]

ill unlock the megathread but not others

[hybrid pecan]

I want nothing

[fast fjord]

just dont be toxic

[pseudo anvil]

its wild that ppl remember the "crush rengo" part but they completely ignore the rest of that text or pretend it never existed

[lost karma]

you didnt do enough research apparently

[proven violet]

#1384230665461170346 was never toxic, doomer from time to time yes

[south salmon]

also id love info on the summons situation please

[somber crater]

Guess so

[south salmon]

thats something to be toxic about

[gilded bluff]

Also I don't like this narrative that the community is the reason why liliam was buffed because we have been complaining for a rengo nerf since forever and they didn't do it they buffed liliam because they wanted to not because we asked for it

[lost karma]

its bolded

[magic sandal]

i never saw toxicity in the inferno chat ngl

[lost karma]

what

[trail narwhal]

Can someone explain what you need to do to make consistent get win rate for you? At this point, I’m see she needs all lacctice, you team lily and kloss needs to over 290 speed, your dps needs to speedy too. How does this help? How is this what make her great? Without her there is it a big difference? I’m seeing people who can already clear, clear faster and use inferno shells

[magic sandal]

so didn't understand closing it

thanks for opening it back tho

[alpine marsh]

ill be honest

[fast fjord]

were you here at all during the liliam situation?

[alpine marsh]

i don't know where this narrative of being able to say whatever you want to say

[magic tusk]

okay fair, let's wait and see how ppl will build her. So far the only use I can think of or that people using are for fast clears with codex.

[fast fjord]

entirely wrong

[pseudo anvil]

so just bcs rest of text isnt bolded it means its irrelevant

[alpine marsh]

and expect to have no consequences

came from lol

[south salmon]

loving the pvp despite the bad rta meta and balancing issues but this shady shit needs to be addressed

here i go i got ignored again

[blazing zealot]

[south salmon]

[lost karma]

you normally bold the important stuff which is why its bolded to begin with

[somber crater]

Can you please show a 1/1/1 team comp? Where ninfo is making the difference for that team?

[blazing zealot]

Anyway Good Changes to union Front

Aite im out again

[somber crater]

You apparently did a lot of research

[alpine marsh]

side note ninfo damage boost.... it is kinda crazy

[pseudo anvil]

yes but it doesnt mean rest of the text/explanation isnt important.

[alpine marsh]

[opaque owl]

All i see is skill issue in this chat

[blazing zealot]

Just nerf Rengo

[fast fjord]

ariadne for ur own mental health dont interact more

[lost karma]

You asked why people only remember the bolded part

[hybrid pecan]

Usually the consequences should fit the crime and all offenders should suffer those consequences. But around here we like to punish selectively

[jade schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[south salmon]

ok hf when next event tjey remove summon currencies from there too

[fast fjord]

just share videos of people doing research and let them figure it out themselves

[dark venture]

i dont know ONLY responding kindly to positive messages about the new characters is not mod abuse and gaslighting tho... 👀

[pseudo anvil]

No because i have to hard pity her first and why would u want to use her as 1/1/1 if u alr had a team set up for rengo

[left terrace]

ninfo made my runs 100%. 55sec to 1min6sec clears. they were actually right. 0 lattice invested.

[alpine marsh]

i mean

have u tested for a few hours

whether or not ninfo is good?

because that is the baseline

to have an opinion

im not sarcastic

[fast fjord]

im just trying to get people to test and do research before hate spamming and fighting eachother

genuinely

[somber crater]

So how you argueing here that she does exactly what was promised?

[alpine marsh]

if you go to any other gacha discord on day 1 of a unit release, and start giving your opinon on a unit without extensive research, people WILL tell you to shut the fuck up lmao

[finite dirge]

could rengo effect res get nerfed already my kloss is missing her debuffs so often and she's 5/1/5 😭

[somber crater]

She makes my existing working team better thats for sure

But thats not what was promised

Gotta love making promises 😂😭

[pseudo anvil]

did they promise her to one shott rengo at 1/1/1 as support with infinite dmg before she even moves

[alpine marsh]

just because the dev team here are incompetent fuckers doesn't mean you don't do due diligence

[south salmon]

ok i will get completely ignored by you if i talk about the summon currency,sure you made another player quit

[somber crater]

Is that wht I claim??

[jade schooner]

[somber crater]

Dont go pulling out random ass arguments

[jade schooner]

Nice backhanded compliment

I see what you did there

[alpine marsh]

i always make sure to shit talk devs

[lost karma]

the strongest demon slayer

[trail narwhal]

We have seen people doing research, and it’s all people who could already clear because thier liliam, kloss, and lily. Are already busted. Those in hell 4, what help is she providing? Those with inconsistent run what help. He weak shield, poor healing and long cd?

[alpine marsh]

otherwise ill get labelled as a white knight

can't have that happenin

[gilded bluff]

We want them to nerf rengo or give us a unit that will "specifically crush rengo"

[alpine marsh]

[opaque owl]

skill issue

[jade schooner]

It’s okay, in a month we’ll have another announcement for an announcement for an announcement

Just gotta be patient

[pseudo anvil]

apparently u do

[finite dirge]

they should add a feature where if you already have skills fully invested you can toggle which level you want the skill so ppl can see how low investment you need to clear certain things

[pseudo anvil]

if u ask that question u think she should be able to do itt as 111

[somber crater]

Did I ask her to do infinite dmg???

Please make a screenshot where I claim that

[lost karma]

or to one shot

[pseudo anvil]

no but u asked her to make a difference without investment

[alpine marsh]

tbfi i think she should be able to...

[somber crater]

Then dont fucking make random claims

[alpine marsh]

like i give her proper support gear

[wooden jay]

Relax

No need to become toxic

[alpine marsh]

and level her up and everything

thats already investment no?

[magic tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/tread-lightly-mew-scaredy-cat-gif-14455646

[somber crater]

Damn I attack a glazer and I get a mod on my ass 😭😂

[alpine marsh]

like u can easily do rengo if u have a 5/5 yeli

[pseudo anvil]

Its not , dont expect units to do work as 111.

[alpine marsh]

should we argue that anyone that doesn't have one hasn't "invested" enough?

[wooden jay]

No one should attack anyone unless it’s in the arena

[gusty isle]

it's getting hard to tell if anyone here is actually asking for help about ninfo or rengo

[alpine marsh]

why not

[wooden jay]

[alpine marsh]

kloss works without investment

[gusty isle]

just raging or rage baiting at this point

[alpine marsh]

my srs and rares work without equal investment

[trail narwhal]

. When you start making point they try to silence you.

[alpine marsh]

because i have access to those resources

[magic tusk]

this is pvp server no?

[alpine marsh]

a unit designed SPECFIICALLY to enable rengo clears

shouldn't require more investment than kloss imo

[dark venture]

i dont understand the why the community is so divided on the lattice topic. units like kloss have existed since day 1 perfect on 1/1/1

[pseudo anvil]

But the thing is kloss is useless its a pure pve unit with no value that is easily replacable by 2 SR units

[gusty isle]

nah it's pve game

[somber crater]

It should most likely be expected in PVE that a unit should be decent in 111, and best in 555

[alpine marsh]

so why does severy ninfo rengo clear use kloss LOL

[lost karma]

isnt kloss in those videos you sent

[pseudo anvil]

bcs they have her from a while ago and dont want to waste resources building dinah/rc77 due to investing in actual pvp units

[trail narwhal]

This got to be a joke right?

[lost karma]

so she isnt useless?

[pseudo anvil]

she is but its also mentioned that dinah/rc77 can replace her and that rc77 is better

[lost karma]

so is she useless or not?

[somber crater]

Careful flight dont be toxic >: (

[fast fjord]

ariadne just take a break theyre gonna chip away at u until u slip up with any word

then berate u

[pseudo anvil]

overall as a unit she is , she is useful in a total of 3 modes and in one of the 3 she is debatable

[fast fjord]

take a break please

[hybrid pecan]

Guys cooked

[alpine marsh]

i would dm stuff like this

cuz saying this

[fast fjord]

for ur sanity i am just recommending u this

[alpine marsh]

just makes u sound like the bad guy LOL

[hybrid pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/turducken-gif-12932415

[pseudo anvil]

i just dont want liliam 2.0 more ppl gonna quit like xiao did

[gilded bluff]

I still use my kloss in pvp

[magic tusk]

nah why is c saying all these stuff

[fast fjord]

me neither

[trail narwhal]

You’re replacing kloss with two sr units?

[pseudo anvil]

u draft her in rta ? Plat or ?

[magic sandal]

i don't agree with kloss being useless ngl

[alpine marsh]

wait

[lost karma]

I just dont see how its useless when you need to have replacements for her

[trail narwhal]

The gaslighting here 😂😂😂

[alpine marsh]

how does ninfo shield work?...

[hybrid pecan]

No sane individual would

[gilded bluff]

Yes plat

[alpine marsh]

like the atk boosting part

[magic sandal]

pretty sure everyone without a kloss wants one

[somber crater]

If its gone the buff is gone

[fast fjord]

nah they will just pinpoint any flaw they can and disregard the rest of their points and it will mentally drain them

[hybrid pecan]

Only functions w shield up

[alpine marsh]

nono i mean like

[hybrid pecan]

[magic tusk]

shield gone, att buff gone

[finite dirge]

like helkid's, as long as u have the shield u get the atk buff

[alpine marsh]

is her shield

[fast fjord]

just advice so they dont end up fighting

[alpine marsh]

separate?

[hybrid pecan]

In other words it’s trash

[alpine marsh]

from like artisan for example?

[somber crater]

Yes its a separate buff

[alpine marsh]

what happens when ninfo shield and artisan shield interact?

[fast fjord]

useless wasnt the right word, just not best option and i dont think aria means otherwise

[somber crater]

You get both

[lost karma]

xiao was raging at them not nurfing farming stages though

[alpine marsh]

are they still two separate things?

[finite dirge]

i tried shield stacking with valerian, it seems the bigger shield will be prioritized to get deducted from

[somber crater]

Yes

[hybrid pecan]

2 sep shields yes I believe so

[alpine marsh]

HMMMMMMMMMm

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

pause

[finite dirge]

so if you shield stack properly you can maybe prevent the buff from going away

[trail narwhal]

All the YouTubers and the people testing it on the account must be lying 🤥

[alpine marsh]

cuz the damage u get from the shield

[gusty isle]

last applied shield goes out first

[alpine marsh]

genuinely is pretty crazy lol

[finite dirge]

oh it's the last applied?

[gusty isle]

yep

[alpine marsh]

oh

its shit then

nvm

[finite dirge]

that makes sense with valerian then

i was hoping maybe her shield gave some DR or something

[proven violet]

https://tenor.com/view/me-if-u-even-care-gif-13473171566580222692

[finite dirge]

but i guess that's chiaki's specialty

[alpine marsh]

no more dr please

we don't need DR shields + bb bullshit

LOL

pls no

[gusty isle]

her shield is big enough if u lattice her up

[pseudo anvil]

Its def break that matters , dinah provides more dmg while rc77 provides safety. Kloss does it slower than both but provides both after taking 2-3 turns Both rc77 and dinah are completely overshadowing kloss but rc77 needs lattices and dinah requires ppl to not build their units like doodoo. Also most ppl would rather invest in pvp units instead first lattice wise.

[gusty isle]

it's 10k+

[finite dirge]

they can add pvp only modifiers

[magic sandal]

yea i didn't think they meant it that way, but useless is still a strong word for a character that has been carrying pretty much everyone since release

[hybrid pecan]

10k shield is HUGE

woooooo

Giant

[finite dirge]

the lattice which I don't have 😭

[lost karma]

dinah doesnt reapply her def down

[pseudo anvil]

But i never said rengo doesnt need a nerf i said rengo is overtuned and needs a nerf. Releasing units for it wont fix it.

[finite dirge]

my lilliam still 1/1/5 i gotta finish her first

[hybrid pecan]

25% of 40k MASSIVE

[pseudo anvil]

u dont need to reapply it if u one shot

[gusty isle]

ure actually insane

[alpine marsh]

i mean

[gusty isle]

u want blatant power creep

[alpine marsh]

10k shield is pretty big isn't it?........

like most dps have around 12-15k hp..

[lost karma]

right but those arent people that are entering rengo that this is supposed to get into

[alpine marsh]

so thats like

60-80% more effective hp no?

[hybrid pecan]

I don’t appreciate the toxicity. Pls stop. It will make me say mean things and get myself put in timeout even tho u clearly instigated it

[somber crater]

What

[burnt sail]

reset event pls

[hybrid pecan]

Rengo adds hit for 10k+

[somber crater]

Most of my dps in pvp are around 20-22k

[burnt sail]

32 unused golden lettuce

[alpine marsh]

ok wait hold on my rengo team is actually doing well rn

[lost karma]

I agree with this though

[alpine marsh]

time to test consistency

ill be back with an update soon

[lost karma]

rengo is just so over tuned they cant release something to counter it or else it will screw pvp

[gilded bluff]

But they tried to offset not nerfing rengo buy promising a direct counter which did not directly counter rengo as promised

[somber crater]

What is the comp ?

[alpine marsh]

standard

[pseudo anvil]

If u want to get into rengo u can do inferno 100% winrate around the time u unlock it if u know what u are doing. Will it be fast ? No. Because boss is overtuned. If u want to get into fast clearing and dont have kloss u go for rc77 or dinah depending on rest of your units. If u dont have lily u do not try to speedclear it and instead do 2-3 min runs.

[magic sandal]

still don't understand why rengo cannot be nerfed

[alpine marsh]

Using this dogshit liliam too

5/5/5 but my stats are horrible........

[finite dirge]

89% CR 🥀

[gusty isle]

if XD caves in on this like the liliam situation we will have another toxic op healer

[alpine marsh]

yea ik ;-;

[lost karma]

you would need bb though wouldnt it?

[fast fjord]

i wont let this happen

[gusty isle]

cuz some noobs can't just use viper sania to clear fkin farm stage

[pseudo anvil]

For slow clears yes. Good thing abt bb is u do not need perfect gear whatsoever just get mainstats and u are good to go.

[gilded bluff]

Why won't they cave in on the right stuff they always cave in on the wrong stuff

[alpine marsh]

u mean the bad thing about it

[pseudo anvil]

why would itt be bad if u dont need to minmax farm aurora to clear rengo

[magic tusk]

they wont buff rgb unit and I hope they don't

[alpine marsh]

being able to slap on shit substats on what is supposed to be an incredibly niche gear set and be good to go is bad lol

imo

[gusty isle]

then how about we rage on the right stuff

[alpine marsh]

like bad for game balance

BB should be very niche, hard to use, but incredible strong when minmaxed imo

[lost karma]

idk, the problem with me is that rengo one shots my yeli though bb when I started

[pseudo anvil]

1. Its not niche set
2. Its the dmg redu that u care abt from the set as long as u survive long enough u kill the boss

[alpine marsh]

im saying it SHOULD be a niche set

because when its not a niche set

u get our current meta

where u slap it on EVERYTHING

including dps

[gilded bluff]

We are raging on a solution they decided to opt in for

[blazing zealot]

Good I don't think she needs buffs she is hella strong

unless they want her to solve rengo

[magic sandal]

i think devs shouldn't advertise units as good for X content, cuz if it turns out they're not the second coming of lily, this happens

[blazing zealot]

then they gotta double her multipliers

[gusty isle]

no u are raging to buff ninfo not nerf rengo

[fast fjord]

game broken

xd

[gilded bluff]

Exactly they should pick one

[blazing zealot]

I agree

[magic sandal]

just show their splash arts and leave it at that

[blazing zealot]

Thats not what I want

I want healthy Happy Game

[alpine marsh]

i jsut hope ninfo good in pvp

[obtuse finch]

Its just hate an harasment when its againt them and the company, u dont get the memo?

[blazing zealot]

she is

[pseudo anvil]

But bb isnt game breaking its in fact balancing the game. If u do not have bb everything instakills u , even rosa can 1 ult cleave u if u do not have bb. Tanks are too tanky , healers heal too much , cc can perma cc u due to eff res formula , dmg is too high on everyone. Why do u specify bb as the issue when its ONE of the many balancing issues game has

[magic sandal]

let the players figure out what the characters are good for when released

[fast fjord]

thing is people who are just now getting to rengo inferno will absolutely get way more consistent clears with nino

[gusty isle]

I get they fked up with the dumb promise

[fast fjord]

so it was advertised properly

[blazing zealot]

if they already have the resources to clear.

and lattice her

[finite dirge]

i think they just need to make debuffers able to land consistent debuffs in pve

[gusty isle]

but crying for power creep is not the answer here

[finite dirge]

and pretty much all of the problems should be solved

[magic sandal]

yea i don't see how she magically helps people who can't clear clear it

[blazing zealot]

Maybe they should give 4 Lattice Each time you pull an On banner unit the first time. Since there is no Soft Pity

[fast fjord]

a lot of people have rc77/dinah (or even kloss though mot as good), diting, or liliam

[magic sandal]

but it works well for those that can already clear it

[gusty isle]

she doesn't at all

[fast fjord]

they should be able to clear rengo with nino

and good strategizing

[small garden]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[alpine marsh]

no thats what i mean. Im not talking about current meta. What im saying is that a set like BB SHOULD be niche when the gamestate is healthy. Its because the balance is so fucked that BB is considered such a universal set rn

I'm saying that i would like the gamestate itself to be balanced to the point that BB is used a niche set for like, anti cleave or smth like that

rather than a "run bb or u just die to both pve and pvp" type deal lol

[fast fjord]

for the people who arent even close to beating rengo without these units they still need to reassess what tools are available and how to change their approach

bc there’s a ton of optiond

options

and now a guaranteed unit amplifies options

[gusty isle]

literally just sania viper

[magic sandal]

yea

[blazing zealot]

and bloodbath

[gusty isle]

2 sr units

[blazing zealot]

and good gear

[magic sandal]

bloodbath XD

[small garden]

Literally my union mates did that and still died

[somber crater]

You can run 3 sr units sania viper diting

[lost karma]

youre speedrunning with what ever the girl's name is. not entering rengo

[magic sandal]

god why is bloodbath so broken ahahaha

[gusty isle]

no?

sania is on wallspring fotissmo

viper whatever

[somber crater]

My longest used team was sania lingluo diting viper

Slow af clears and small chance of failure that I couldnt do shit about

[alpine marsh]

Honestly…. It’s not bad….

50 second average clears is fast af….

keeping in mind my liliam has 89% crit rate

[small garden]

Who's the dps?

[alpine marsh]

that means runs can fail both due to liliam failing to crit on S3

AND 10% chance kloss missing defense break

if i can clear 70% with that

i think its pretty good

ill run another 10x to see if that consistency remains

[runic schooner]

using nino?

[alpine marsh]

i would be perfectly happy with it if so

yea

im running standard nin liliam lily kloss team

[crisp raft]

Yh but didn’t the promo say try her with liliam. Can’t imagine struggling f2p players will have her…

[runic schooner]

any lattices invested? how what is the speed needed on her?

[alpine marsh]

i think 1/1/4 is mandatory

from my half baked testing

honestly

i think she's an incredible investment tho

as we know from valerian

survibability + added damage

[finite dirge]

that missed defense break 🥀