Selling Character as Solution

[tranquil inlet]

Its sounds great and awful at the same time.
The great thing they will work as they advertize(looking at you ssania) but it awful because if you miss a banner then you are at the mercy of rng for that char.

Well now to remove the awful part how about we have a selector banner where we can select SSR and SR that will drop from that banner.The rule are here:

1.its only drop selected SSR on SSR pool

2.maximal number pull you can do is 80 or until you got 1 of your picked SSR

3.It can select all unit including L/D and RGB but with the price cost as what unit we choose

4.This banner can be pull with ticket/gem(i see you regular L/D banner)

5.This banner reset once a month

Im asking this since your solution for rengo is new unit....and since getting pull is not a problem in this game im asking this instead.Just do this at this point since you guys already try to sell char for rengo problem

I hope this stuff get forwarded to them @deft acorn

[sturdy crest]

Any rate up rerun or selective banner is my only wet dream in this game. willing to spend all my resources just to get a guaranteed lily. I'm tired of relying on just luck to get the character that you want.

Even in the other game where premium currencies are such gold (like wuwa, hsr), I still can get all the chars that I want and I need. Only in this game I can't have it lmaoo, the game where gems and summoning tickets are damn plenty compared to others, how ironic 😂😂

[tranquil inlet]

Yea kinda wild

[thin grove]

Same here, only missing lily, hein is break 4 lmao

[shrewd fog]

They won't do it. They want you to spend $$$ to buy the gold pulls on the extra-affinity scam banner to get more money just for you to get Lily. That is also the reason why you can't use gems to direct pull in extra-affinity banner.

The same way they won't change the Lattice income so people spend $$$ to buy Lattice.

The same way they keep releasing new and new server or release to global to milk more $$$ and create new whale for them to be the top of the new server.

At the end of the day, it's just a quick and easy cash grab.

[tranquil inlet]

Idk why my some people think my request is not reasonable....like can you give me explaination why? @earnest swan

[tranquil inlet]

Yea this kind a sad but predictable since this is my experience on every pvp game i play....my request is concension since im sure dev dont want to nerf inferno difficulty since we already ask nerf for month

[earnest swan]

because I think you dont necessarily need this new unit to clear content. There are options, nobody getting gatekeep.

[tranquil inlet]

But do you feel the difference? Here example.

With ssania i can start farming inferno hoyan like with lower gear requirement

Without ssania,to farm inferno hoyan i need decent gear/shell with right matrix and main stats,with lattice investment on my ssr and sr plus 6* some of them

The difference is like heaven and earth

[shrewd fog]

If they wanted to change it, they would have addressed it in the latest announcement but they had zero mention of these issues. And yet they consider their announcement as a big W and act like they listen when they didn't even address at least 80% of the current ongoing issue in-game right now.

[tranquil inlet]

Yea...pretty much they are selective on which part they want to fix and ignore the rest

[sturdy crest]

I saw this argument for lily every day during the first 3 weeks since the game launch 😂

[earnest swan]

like i said, every character has their strengths and weakness. other method may not be optimum, but still doable. you are asking everyone to have every unit, which is impossible

[tranquil inlet]

Cant even make agree since im experiencing how it is without lily and after i got her

[earnest swan]

i played without lily, no problem whatsoever

[tranquil inlet]

Its not every unit.

I ask 1 selectable SSR/month/4 week

They release 3 unit/6 week

Even with this banner people cant get all unit they missing,especially the longer this game goes

Alright @subtle yoke you can disagree but atleast give explaination why you dont agree with this

[sturdy crest]

oh me too by the way, complete the game all, even 3 stars without lily, but still, that does not negate the fact that one character, will affect your account in so many ways.

[earnest swan]

right now we are still at 30, tbh i agree with you if we have 100 units in a single banner. otherwise i dont think it is needed right now

[fierce shuttle]

Problem with selling character is the fact that new players are screwed

[earnest swan]

no one is screwed, nobody getting gatekeep. if you are not pulling and just hoarding, then its ur problem

[tranquil inlet]

Yea....my hope with this is so new player are not screwed and can catch up to join RTA at 2-3 month time playing since they can auto all inferno stage already in that amount of time

[sturdy crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVXXW7I-Naw 21:03 found it's funny it's the thread that we are on now lmaooo

[sturdy dune]

game goes live for china when liliam and new banner is over, how is this a hoarding issue ?

[fierce shuttle]

Dude, I am perfectly fine, I got an auto rengo team and I’m f2p, so I’m completely unburdened by any of this. My issue is that a player who joins this game in 2 months, when the next rgb banner ends, will be unable to “solve” rengo unless he lucks into pulling these “solution” heroes…

Which is terrible design

[earnest swan]

You are fine, then the new player will be fine too, without this solution hero. It is just easier.

[subtle yoke]

there is beginner banner and these are most likely gonna be there

[fierce shuttle]

I am fine coz i’m a tryhard. Casuals deserve some love as well

[fierce shuttle]

“most likely” is one helluva copium right there

[tranquil inlet]

From what i remember targeted banner doesnt included new unit at all

[subtle yoke]

they added new chars like rosa etc there from beta

havent checked it lately since havent made new acc

[tranquil inlet]

No holden and fuq u

[sturdy dune]

also you are, and so are many others here in dc are the 0,1% and dont reflect any casual player attempt with this game

[shrewd fog]

Usually it's people who already have Lily/Yeli/SSania/Rilmocha/Xiada, that screams the loudest of saying, "You don't need X unit to clear a certain content."

While to an extent it might be right,
it is very disingenous and downright hypocrisy if you actually have those units, use them, and then tell others that you don't need X characters.

Even content creators that do F2P clear run use Inferno gear to actually clear Inferno raid with F2P unit. And to this day, I still see no one clearing Sharon Inferno without Lily/Yeli.

So, yeah, not having a certain unit really matters.

[fierce shuttle]

And? How does this change the fact that the refusal to nerf an obviously overturned boss is clearly a bad decision?

[sturdy dune]

have I said otherwise? Im on your side buddy wth

[sturdy crest]

the problem here is only a few portions of the fanbase do care of casuals. probably they want the game to fulfilled just with whales and pro elitists lol

[fierce shuttle]

Well, game is not gonna survive. Rta is already kinda dead, so …

They want feedback for pvp but nobody has any motivation to do it coz it’s rough out there with crippled characters

[shrewd fog]

You think you're making a point when it's Liliam a.k.a. the new Yeli?
Right.

[fierce shuttle]

Who need like 8 lattice each minimum to sort of work

[subtle yoke]

yeah not like you cant pull any ld as f2p player?

[tranquil inlet]

Well when the banner is gone you are kinda cooked

[fierce shuttle]

This is how I pull as f2p

[tranquil inlet]

L/D banner only pullable by ticket

You cant get that many ticket to even them every month

[fierce shuttle]

Feels good

[tranquil inlet]

When the banner is gone its going to be even harder

[fierce shuttle]

A character advertised as a solution to rengo. Thanks

[deft acorn]

i think the main point that was encouraged below the animus images was that its part of a wider effort to expand the pool and increase the amount of available options for the content in general. I'm worried ab this too but I think with enough new characters and synergies EVERYONE will have a team with solutions for rengo

[subtle yoke]

and there is gonna be new unit

which works on it later

like we see now

[deft acorn]

so we'll have to see how it plays out

[subtle yoke]

and i answered to this guy who said no lily clears on sharon inferno

which there are

[fierce shuttle]

Expansion of pool doesn’t help if you can’t build these characters coz in many cases they simply don’t work without lattices

[subtle yoke]

a quite few

[tranquil inlet]

At some point it wont be realistic to even hit all those character c

[deft acorn]

yes this is the other point

[fierce shuttle]

Which hasn’t been addressed in the announcement, at all

Like, at all, man

Ctrl f, not found

[earnest swan]

Luck issue

[deft acorn]

lattice economy isn't really something that people are outraging over. most understand its fairly balanced just needs a slight nudge

but

if these two units

require 12 lattices

its gg

lol

i gotta retire at that point

🤣

[tranquil inlet]

Do you know how long to even reach to that point? The one with lily is already done and have more variety sadly

[fierce shuttle]

Lol, really? Lattices are the biggest reason people cry. Nobody’s wants to go pvp with 1/1/1 characters

[jolly pecan]

24 lattices here you free rengo, no ty

[subtle yoke]

yes like you should have with pulling premium unit, its either luck or money

[earnest swan]

What happen to progress.. You know casuals dont need to speed rush everything

[jolly pecan]

lattice's is on fair point in term of sustain, 11/15 per month in average, but maybe they add more in BATTLEPASS and maybe 1/2 free

[sturdy crest]

brother, from 1-100, how much chances that we ever got any rerun rate up type of banners? I'm sincerely asking 🙂

[fierce shuttle]

For PvP EVERY non-dps character basically REQUIRES 3 or 4 lattice to get 15 speed

[deft acorn]

🤷‍♂️ im here every day man

[tranquil inlet]

You miss the banner? You can pull on regular rgb banner.

Just get lucky

Oh you miss L/D unit? Just pray you get lucky with those 5 ticket/week

[deft acorn]

i just dont know sorry

[tranquil inlet]

[deft acorn]

for the average new player (which is the concern here) they are likely to get at least ONE unit that serves a strong solution to rengo by the time they reach that boss

especially as the pool expands

and there are more options and synergies

this stuff isn't so black and white

[sturdy crest]

appreciate that, thanks for responding.

[tranquil inlet]

Lets not talk about speed rush....they probably not even progress and stuck on hell 4,that just how hard it is without specific unit

[deft acorn]

if the only solution was a singular l/d I would agree

but there's lots of options for rengo

[earnest swan]

one question tho, the girl is red?

[deft acorn]

shit idk

[jolly pecan]

botth blue apparently

[earnest swan]

lol ok

[jolly pecan]

rip Fire element at this point

[deft acorn]

the girl is a dps buffer + shielder and the boy is a dps

[jolly pecan]

and sad part is fire element is rly needed atm in dis meta

[earnest swan]

holder wore green but still is red, we got hope

[subtle yoke]

good leaks ty

[sturdy crest]

wait if the girl is blue, so ling will be replaced no?

[deft acorn]

more characters will come

[fierce shuttle]

I have 71 perfect lattices as f2p and I still feel like I’m starving. I am basically debating skipping liliam coz I can’t 5/1/5 her and without that she’s just garbage worse than diting in pve and not viable in high lvl pvp …

[earnest swan]

nice i love shielder

[tranquil inlet]

Im sry c,but they will still be at the mercy of rng unless every new release unit is cater to make inferno dif easier

[jolly pecan]

yeah sure, but was hoping for Fire element in these 2

[subtle yoke]

@deft acorn also thanks for the post, good job with the new info ❤️

[deft acorn]

yeah i dont disagree rng can be ass on rengo and ive vouched for taking that away

but

[deft acorn]

trying my best

[fierce shuttle]

Mia is green but element is red. So there is still hope

[earnest swan]

inferno is crazy i agree but there are options

[prisma schooner]

You wouldn't need to release characters that make Inferno easier, if you would make Inferno more accessible to everyone...

[sturdy crest]

I thought lian was goated and then she benched forever

[deft acorn]

increasing the pool of character synergy and accessibility helps in a lot of areas that are more than just rengo though

so new players arent just

getting purely fucked

[subtle yoke]

the turn meter thingy on inferno kinda killed her

[deft acorn]

they will have more solutions for everything

[subtle yoke]

thats kinda sad, agree

[deft acorn]

there's a bigger picture even if it doesnt feel like it from ur first thought

[tranquil inlet]

Anway regarless of your guys opinion im glad we can have civil conversation....i just hope at some point inferno farming stage is not smth that looked at as hassle @deft acorn @subtle yoke @earnest swan

[deft acorn]

yeah i think we all want that for sure

😭

[fierce shuttle]

New character isn’t a problem. Problem is the lattice investment required for them to work

[deft acorn]

i want no hassle + less time dependency

[deft acorn]

just not sure if its a problem yet xd

dont speak it into existence

[earnest swan]

yeah bro honestly i like this game a lot. i too want the game to survive

[jolly pecan]

focus on chore and economy and we're on the good road

[deft acorn]

if it only requires x1 5 skill i think itd be fine

[prisma schooner]

You might be right, but I've went from loving the game to questioning myself if I wanna keep playing, which I thought wasn't possible cause I was so in love from beta.

I deeply respect you being involved with the community tho 🙂 you're our last ray of hope.

[fierce shuttle]

I mean, they released a character like Nahor who is basically trash unless you fully lattice him. What makes you think they won’t do it again?

[earnest swan]

i hate all gacha game because it feels they just want to suck ur money, but this game encourage u to think and make buils

[earnest swan]

lol nahor no excuse for that trash,not defending him

[tranquil inlet]

Yea kinda sad for the guy....if atleast his def break on s1 is 2 turn from the start and s2 already full buff removal without lattice i think he can be great

[deft acorn]

🤣 cant fight you here

[earnest swan]

my kraken is way better than nahor

[deft acorn]

good thing about this game is that there will always be an opportunity for resurgence i dont think its doomed for him forever

[fierce shuttle]

Their second month revenue dropped from 9mil to 2 (according to that tower report, clearly an estimate but a good one I reckon) and they don’t seem to care coz clearly the announcements are not exactly inspiring resurgence. Oh well, I will see it through

They got incredible people who are veterans from SW and E7 who can give them absolutely based feedback and yet here we are

U watch seanb laugh when he reads about the rengo solution

I can’t help but laugh as well

[steady panther]

I am constantly wirting that this is the problem

IT isn't fairy balanced in a slightest

IT causes a lot problems and also constantly threads about resets

[prisma schooner]

I wouldn't mind if they would just give an event once per month which lets us full skill a units skill. 1 SR and 1 SSR. Maybe that's already too much, im not sure.

[steady panther]

People dont want to reset because reset but cry about investing lattices

Not info flavour of the month

After there would a midseasom patch people will cry for investing LATTICES jnto bruisers

And for a good reason

People arent upset about the lack of resezts but due to stingy lattice economy you have to only invest into the most op meta unit to compete

And this wouldnt solve itself overtimr

I have whaled for some characters already but refuse to buy attificial resources to build them

[indigo forum]

people just want clear the game in 1 night.. its progress game, just sit and enjoy or quit

[steady panther]

Its a marathon not a sprint
I Hope your post was ironic

[dry cloak]

nobody here said anything about wanting to beat the game in 1 night XD

[latent flame]

Yeah i wanna beat it in 2 nights

[distant lotus]

I only whale on lattices now, beyond that the game is chilling

I am stuck for sure in the game only because I’m bad not because the game is bad

Realistically the game isn’t doing so well became people can’t handle that they themselves are not good gamers

I recognized that I am bad at this game and I spent a lot of money for sure

But I ain’t mad

[latent flame]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-debate-president-presidential-debate-wtf-gif-4127151492472228747

[distant lotus]

There are a lot more fixed mindset gamers than I realized. If people have growth mindset this game honestly would flourish

[earnest swan]

but if they double the lattice, i think is good.

[earnest swan]

people dont like to think

[distant lotus]

It seems to be the case

[regal otter]

this is big cope, if they double lattice you can full lattice every new char as f2p, will never happen

[distant lotus]

This game was like a shock vaalue to most gamers, cause the game honestly has a fun gameplay loop

[steady panther]

XDDDDD

[earnest swan]

lol, then 1.5x

[latent flame]

[steady panther]

Maple story gamer

[dry cloak]

lattice gain tbh is fine, it's just spread out so thin because different modes require pretty different characters

[distant lotus]

And you are a creep 🤣

[tranquil inlet]

This guy is marathon enjoyer

[latent flame]

Maplestory gear upgrade systen is better than shell stat rng rerolling

[deft acorn]

LOL

funniest thing i saw

today

cant lie

a true marathoner

[dry cloak]

shell stats is like, did we need flat def, HP and atk

[steady panther]

Its a growth mindset

[dry cloak]

like there's already so much reroll clutter to dodge cuz of the 4 tiers zzz

[deft acorn]

but yeah gali i get you on a lot of stuff

[earnest swan]

i have short attention span, today im latticing heinrich, tomorow im pumping lily skill

[deft acorn]

a lot of people like to just consume content and guides and then live in regret and it isn't too forgiving

bc those guides are still at an early phase of the game

where everyone really doesnt know much

xd

[delicate eagle]

@deft acorn i think 1. jack has re-iterated he wanted players to invest lattice wisely alot of times. and hence resetting isn't a solution in the long run. e7 sw has followed this system susccessfully. its a difficult situation when players make the wrong decision, but then again, double edge sword, if everytime a new meta arrives, anyone can just reset, and pump back into the new meta, and you'll see the same teams over and over again. also, from a company's standpoint, its not the same revenue model; theres no weapon banner, dupees for most characters are not even needed. company probably makes the most from lattice packs. 2. people talk about power creep but it's not considered power creep as long as there's mechanics introduced in units. powercreep definition is a similar kit but overloaded by pure stats, as a person who has auto-ed rengo at 100% since the first week of the game, all i did was listen to jack and he said "to use what's available in the game" so the natural progression was doki-> aurora -> and i was the first to use bloodbath gear in rengo. at this point, giving the liliam buffs like this already dumbed down rengo like a toy, so i understand where XD's direction is going with the game. i wanna ask this question C: "the problem at the moment is the lack of unit diversity to create more synergies in pvp(honestly pve can be solved with just ssr units, heck giving lingluo alone for free is something that is considered a premium in other similar games). releasing more units in the current schedule is fine and all, but by the time we reach 100 units; pvp meta is just gonna be extremely stale. has XD considered releasing new shells, more diversified passives in shells, while solving the reconfig chips(like giving it for gvg in rewards) etc. cause more unique shell diversity and passives are the only way to play more unique builds etc"

[prisma schooner]

So do I, just make notes infront of you where you always see them.

[deft acorn]

woah

jesus

[open forge]

holy yap

[limpid shell]

please reduce lattice income. f2p can build too many characters and can actually enjoy the game.
as a whale i would like to buy more lattice packs.

[distant lotus]

I realized the skills needed on game like this is module upgrading. I think players like me are not upgrading properly. And we are wasteful

I understand the rng in upgrading substats but it really take discipline to upgrade actually good quality modules

[tranquil inlet]

I got baited from guide based on Beta content...grey and lian is bait

[deft acorn]

what an amazing read, and yes to all at the end

[distant lotus]

I am gated by good modules rn

[deft acorn]

well

reconfig chips im fighting for

each week

but

the rest have definitely been in the thought process

u have a really good grasp on the genre damn

[earnest swan]

yes, have they considered new shell? we cant just have new characters

[regal otter]

I would like to see at least a Grace of Growth mechanic, like E7. So you can test out a almost maxed char without leveling it once a month or smth @deft acorn

[exotic spruce]

How can we "invest wisely" with our lattice when the meta and buffs/nerfs are so unpredictable?

And shifting so often

[distant lotus]

Once you have a farming team you save up

And for people who play this game the specialize one or two teams for PvP

It’s rock paper scissor

[delicate eagle]

by playing the game smartly i guess

[steady panther]

True growth mindset

[dry cloak]

also sometimes changes don't even get mentioned in patch notes, like the Veronika situation around launch

[deft acorn]

someone else talked about this with me i was gonna push it at one meeting but other topics were higher priority and ran out of time

[exotic spruce]

Save up lattice? Lol? As if we aren't waiting for dozens all the time and using them instantly?
Save up for what anyway?

[deft acorn]

i should look into that again

[distant lotus]

Uh.. once you unlock reng farming the GL stacks up

I’m
Saving my GLs only for LD units now

Game like these LD units are generally end game PvP

[earnest swan]

nahor need it bro

[delicate eagle]

sorry idk what to say, but i ranked 1 in e7,kr,sw the first year of release, in SW where i just pumped "lattice equivalant" to stay relavant in the meta, people who invested in more fool-proof characters, eventually took over. so lesson learnt.

[shrewd fog]

The argument was that, "You need a certain unit to clear a certain content."

And you just proved my point is correct by saying that you need L/D unit to clear it since you agree that F2P can still pull L/D units.

But once the banner is gone or the said person doesn't play throughout when the unit is released, what's gonna happen then? It's exactly what OP meant in the post.

[distant lotus]

There are only 3 types of team
In PvP , so roughly 15 units to flesh out for PvP

Likely some are overlaps, eventually you will have a solid 15 units to rotate for PvP based on meta

[open forge]

i just keep 8 GL on hand in case a new "broken" unit drops then upgrade my pvp units in increments of 4 every week

[distant lotus]

This

[exotic spruce]

I'm farming Rengo in 37-44 sec
This is not a Rengo issue
This is a 3 lattice per week doesn't keep up with new units issue
It takes a month to get enough lattice for one unit and by then the meta has moved on already
They are even looking at a mid season balance patch for goodness sake

[dusty kiln]

if you have to fight for this does it means that the devs think it's a non issue ?

[distant lotus]

Then you should be chilling, the meta will always shift the balance between, bruiser, cleave, and cc

[deft acorn]

no

[open forge]

i dont see myself upgrading pve units ever beacuse all my runs are sub 1 min now so theres no point.

[distant lotus]

Also this

[deft acorn]

they try to be patient so that they dont make a decision too rashly and permanently inflate a part of the resource economy and its a double edged sword

[exotic spruce]

Chilling with no lattice
Maybe I will have enough lattice to build 2 bruisers by the end of the season
By then the meta will change again, maybe sooner
So what is the wise way to invest lattice when they have announced an unknown change coming at an unknown time this season?

[deft acorn]

so they just wanna make sure it's still a real problem and not just a short term thing while ppl are at middle stages of the game

[open forge]

if the new unit is good at 1-1-1 for rengo ill use it, otherwise ill pull it and chill

[chilly python]

Except ofcourse when new pve comes out

[subtle yoke]

no your argument was i havent seen people clear sharon inferno without lily

[deft acorn]

for example, gali and a lot of others who have reached the endgame tend to have more GL's rn

[distant lotus]

You decide as a player what PvP style to main first

And pick up units that help you with that style

Then you pivot to another type while holding a strong single type team

[open forge]

when new pve comes out i doubt ill need to build new units since my pvp units are pretty versatile

[earnest swan]

bro people cant think, they just want to follow meta

[chilly python]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-reyleigh-gif-2624811426640502973

[shrewd fog]

No. I said Lily/Yeli and Liliam is pretty much same as Yeli. So, nope, you're not making point at all.

[distant lotus]

The game is hard as shit though lol

[exotic spruce]

This would be a fine way to do it if they never released another character
However...

[distant lotus]

What are you talking about

[subtle yoke]

Even content creators that do F2P clear run use Inferno gear to actually clear Inferno raid with F2P unit. And to this day, I still see no one clearing Sharon Inferno without Lily/Yeli. yeah just put evey units there you dont have

[tranquil inlet]

Will this kind of banner be implement...like im not asking it rn but in the future,since at some point we gonna have lot of unit that rng wont cut it out

[exotic spruce]

What are you talking about?
I mentioned a lattice shortage and you tell me to pick up chars

[distant lotus]

It will make sense if they only design one type of PvP units and keep releasing that

[distant lotus]

Your shortage wouldn’t be a shortage if you mastered pve

[jolly pecan]

none care about clearing, ppl in end game want to speed clear, not funny to have etheria as a summer job

[distant lotus]

You only feel like there is a shortage because why

[exotic spruce]

Stop assuming I haven't because I assure you I have

[formal shuttle]

lattice shortage due to u wanting to stay relevent in PvP?

[distant lotus]

I assume you did, but you acting like yo ain’t

[exotic spruce]

I haven't mentioned struggling in pve at all ever so no

[distant lotus]

If you mastered pve than you won’t feel the lattice shortage

So clearly there is a disconnect

[exotic spruce]

Lol what

[formal shuttle]

im all for more lattice

[shrewd fog]

Yeah. Lily/Yeli. And then you posted a clear with Liliam which is pretty much the new Yeli. Come back again with a clear without them and I'll be impressed. Otherwise, you're just proving my point is right.

[chilly python]

https://tenor.com/view/art-clown-bunnymimi-gif-16468807823592878073

[distant lotus]

Having more skill ups is nice but coming from SW where you get 1 per week

ER raining candies

And fun fact SW it’s RNG skill ups

So have fun with that bs

But it’s still a successful game

[exotic spruce]

I don't play SW
Why are we comparing to SW

I play this

[open forge]

the game gives you more than enough resources to pity every unit, why is having the new "LD" unit not a good example?

[distant lotus]

Only reason ER doing bad because PVE literally destroyed player bases

[open forge]

not having lily is understandable

[steady panther]

Guy is not playing normal gamws

Only maple story and gachas

[open forge]

but for units currently on banner is just....

[steady panther]

To growth mindset

[distant lotus]

The game could be better

Any game can always be improved

But the players need to improve too

[tranquil inlet]

Becausr you can miss the banner...and pulling it on regular banner is not feastable

And L/D banner only take ticket

[distant lotus]

Yall soft and honestly weak minded

The game is hard I will give yall that

[distant lotus]

Bro standard banner is the best banner

[open forge]

if you are arguing for new players that join after the banner is over then i can understand that, but for current players not so much

[prisma schooner]

Yeah not wanting the game to EOS Speedrun Any% is really weakminded.

[deft acorn]

not feastable

made me laugh

[tranquil inlet]

That at some point you going to get dupe instead unit you missing

[deft acorn]

😭

[prisma schooner]

Growth Mindset!!

[distant lotus]

Yall mocking me sure

I don’t mind

Yall know yourself best 🤷‍♂️

[deft acorn]

gali u got some good takes and ideas

[shrewd fog]

But it's what the OP mean at the first place. Once the banner is gone and you have no guaranteed way to get a certain unit, without a rotating banner, you'll end up getting dusted.

[delicate eagle]

im not so much asking for an immediate solution to reconfig chips, but if u release new shells now, people will rage,, but alot of players dont find the meta fun. and yes, again that's from diversity. in alot of games, each character definition and how to build them comes from either their prowess or "unqiue weapon" which this game doesnt have. at the moment, if you wanna arena, u just go bruiser, gigabyte for healer cycling, jackal on holden, artisan on xyz. the eff accuracy formula and eff resistance formula in this game also idk why is made this way, and severely favors accuracy especially multi hit. so we're left with cc and bruiser meta. 1. it's just my suggestion that if reconfig chips and new shells with more unique passives, that can create more unique builds, passives rather than just def%,speed,final dmg, while at the same time addressing reconfig chips will soft solve the lack of unit roster atm.(and it desperately needs it) that's the only solution at the moment, if we buff every other unit, we might have a whole situation again of the previous patch.

[deft acorn]

appreciate ya

[distant lotus]

It is what it is

[exotic spruce]

Like you weren't just basically calling people who disagreed with you noobs who must be struggling

[distant lotus]

I’m pretty sure I acknowledge nd admit I m having a hard time at the game

That’s only due to personal skills

[deft acorn]

agreed with that final sentence man you have a really good grasp on the game and genre as I said last time. If u ever get the chance this week I feel like you could make a really good thread for us to sit and ponder on

idk if u have that time but

would be legendary

[steady panther]

For me its really funny when someone uses a term growth mindset while spenindg 56 hours in maple story
I have Heard this term when i started working out and have been constantly improving myswlf for over 5 y

[open forge]

Yeah, im pretty sure they will be forced to put a selector banner or growth missions for new players that give needed sr's or ssr's eventually. probably with china release

[distant lotus]

Not sure why you so fixated on me playing maplestory that’s weird.

It’s not even an insult

[deft acorn]

nah its just a meme because maplestory is ultra grinder game

grind game from hell

etheria is cake compared to it

he's not even saying it as an insult its just like

[steady panther]

Yh C gotnit

[deft acorn]

it makes sense for ur stance

(i come from a grind game background too)

i dont like handout games

i get bored

[steady panther]

Based on your subjecrive expierience on playing specific gamws

[deft acorn]

etheria for me is just too time demanding

thats the only issue with the game

idc about the economy issues or rng or difficulty

[steady panther]

Thanks C u goat

[deft acorn]

if i make a mistake or invest in something dumb

[tranquil inlet]

Im still remember how i stuck on hell rengo because im not pulling sania with 1-2 month of playing the game...its wild

[deft acorn]

its on me

xd

but yeah

thats my personal bias

we all got diff biases and ideas

[distant lotus]

You. Were given lingluo

[deft acorn]

i have 8k hours in a grind fest mmo with low drop rates on all the best gear so would spend hundreds of hours doing the same bosses manually over and over in big parties with friends and stuff

[tranquil inlet]

Lingluo cant res....my dps just die at some point

[deft acorn]

it never got old because the game was just good and fun

and getting the perfect drop was like

a shot of fentanyl

into ur ballsack

[open forge]

Rengo is a fucking unbalanced peice of shit. should never have launched in the state its in,

[deft acorn]

im jus yappin now

[tranquil inlet]

Agree

[deft acorn]

but

anyways

[chilly python]

https://tenor.com/view/b99-captainholt-holt-raymondholt-pain-gif-8793717

[deft acorn]

nah... amazing

(i wouldnt know i havent done fent lol)

but damn getting the perfect gear drop after doing thousands of runs

[chilly python]

I meant getting a needle in the balls

[deft acorn]

and then the pain of having to get that gear drop again but for the other pieces 3 more times

sheesh

dopamine

but pain

etheria is still cake compared to that and shit like maplestory

[shrewd fog]

That would be great. But the current old targeted banner doesn't even update with the new char. And they don't even have targeted LD banner. It would also be a disaster if Global launch get better treatment with the Targeted banners because they are "new" meanwhile we got nothing.

OP just want a rotating banner. Can be biweekly or even every 7 days. Or even occassional targeted banner event.

[tranquil inlet]

Im all for the dopamine but hope the we can have lowest safety net

[deft acorn]

yeah lol

agreed

it's just not for everyone

[distant lotus]

so how does global launch work?

I thought we were the global launch?

[deft acorn]

well

we were

but its like

earth launch

[distant lotus]

they got their own region?

[deft acorn]

we'll be competing with the real demons of gacha now

s korea

japan

china

we're all fucked

[earnest swan]

how will other region.banner work? they will get holden freya then yeli then fuqiu?

[distant lotus]

ohhh

they get their own servers?

[deft acorn]

no idea

[open forge]

Im pretty sure our "targeted banners" will be more 200 pull events

[deft acorn]

yes

[distant lotus]

Fuck GVG Gonna be tough

[deft acorn]

but we can all compete

[distant lotus]

Gvg is region vs region right?

[tranquil inlet]

The rotating banner not sound bad either if they implemenr right imo....holy am i desperate

[deft acorn]

i forget someone else answer

[distant lotus]

And RTA???

[deft acorn]

i dont pay close enough attention

[chilly python]

The sweet sweet drama singlehandedly will keep me here til yeli maid skin

[earnest swan]

how much u have right now btw out of 30?

[distant lotus]

I think it is

[earnest swan]

yelj summer skin, make it happen

[deft acorn]

what drama

[distant lotus]

The overall ER decline drama in western players lol

[deft acorn]

ok good

honestly

Ik the post wasn't perfect and we still have lots of work to do

[distant lotus]

What’s the Asia server than?

[deft acorn]

but a little bit of chaos isn't always the worst

💀

[distant lotus]

just CN?

[steady panther]

IT was good thanks for communication

[deft acorn]

idk specifics just wait and see

[chilly python]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-drama-roger-gif-20947742

[distant lotus]

I meant current Asia

[deft acorn]

but usually mainland china yeah

[distant lotus]

Ah

[deft acorn]

mainland china, s kr, jp

[jolly pecan]

so we will met whale of asia in RTA reallysoon ?

[deft acorn]

💀

they do not play

around

luckily this game is pretty anti-whale in most ways

[distant lotus]

No because they will be elo above us

[distant lotus]

Oh feedback - fearless arena needs to be elo, I know it’s only weekend but

[deft acorn]

yeli is too fine

[distant lotus]

Getting free fall matchmaking in fearless is crazy

I sometime OP other players or I get OP

I rather not steamroll or get steamrolled

[jolly pecan]

what about also suggest for GvG for attack, to not allow to re-use same gear, like wich is the case for defense ?

[earnest swan]

nice

[open forge]

i do feel bad watching newer players pick Lian into my full bruiser team

[subtle yoke]

isnt that same for both teams tho

[jolly pecan]

cuz the lucksac with 350 SPEED are re-using every piece on every attack

[shrewd fog]

Oh that's a great idea actually.

[distant lotus]

@deft acorn need to copy SW you can sell modules/shells from the auto farm screen ,makes no sense to not to

[delicate eagle]

accept my dm if possible mr c. thanks also for the announcement and efforts so far

[jolly pecan]

still bad design

[open forge]

i cant break 346 speed because im stuck in aurora jail forever

[jolly pecan]

everyone is lock at 340 / 349 , but lucksac are 351+

[tranquil inlet]

Im still at 328 gang...forever low elo

[open forge]

switch to turn 2

[echo cargo]

300 pulls in all i get are dupes

[open forge]

youre cooked

[tranquil inlet]

Atleast i dont have bruiser problem

[echo cargo]

where is my lily, when will I unlock easy mode

[tranquil inlet]

Im building it now....im raising doki

[jolly pecan]

hold lattice till mid season patch

[open forge]

im maxing holden monday, if they nerf him in mid season patch ill just cry for a reset

[earnest swan]

holden nerf incoming

[open forge]

they over buffed him for no reason, im expecting a nerf eventually

[frank cove]

people think an anti whale game gacha game is a good idea

[earnest swan]

i want the new girl, she is dps buffer and shielder

my kind of character

[chilly python]

So
Just a game then?

[open forge]

hopefully she's good so i can have another bruiser support to draft that's defensive

[chilly python]

Seems doable

[regal otter]

Is the new characters name really Bob?

Asking the important questions

[latent flame]

Bob & Alice

[earnest swan]

doesnt fit that shota appearance..

[chilly python]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-does-this-mean-we-can-come-out-of-hiding-mr-incredible-bob-parr-coming-out-of-hiding-gif-26949957

[opal harbor]

This would be neat for both whales and f2p, as whales can target farm prowess dupes, and f2p can target their SSR required

Maybe to sweeten the deal I'd even be happy if people could target a unit to have a higher chance of getting pulled until you pull 1 of said unit.

For example right now it's 1% for SSR on perm banner 0.75% for RGB 0.25% for LD. Now let's say you target Lily it'd become 0.5% chance to pull Lily and the remaining 0.5% would become 0.35% for a random RGB 0.15% LD.