#Wishbinder Event SSR Selector Sucks

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frail dune
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ah yes the RGB banners that typically fill niche rolls (barring holden fuqiu)

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where's the dps?

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still missing a blue one Sadge

subtle fjord
frail dune
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hoyan in a bruiser meta

subtle fjord
subtle fjord
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Come on now

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What dogshit argument is this

frail dune
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and her value wasn't realized by the masses until ews?

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you gotta think on the average player scale

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sure, at the top you can argue these points

subtle fjord
craggy phoenix
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Yo can u 2 stop arguing u guys are both pretty chill ppl

subtle fjord
frail dune
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back when lattice was even a bigger issue>?

subtle fjord
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Fucking dog takes

frail dune
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1/1/1 hoyan without law or count?

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i doubt many people were farming those shells back then

subtle fjord
uneven scarab
subtle fjord
frail dune
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what if yeli runs bloodbath?

subtle fjord
frail dune
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can you ban characters in arena and gvg?

frail dune
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hence my original point stands

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also cc counters her too no?

subtle fjord
frail dune
subtle fjord
frail dune
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you say my takes are dogshit but you're not even reading

subtle fjord
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Not my fault you are clear as a dog turd

subtle fjord
frail dune
subtle fjord
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But tbf typos happen on that one

frail dune
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oh now it's a typo?

frail dune
subtle fjord
frail dune
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bro

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my original point was hoyan's role is niche

subtle fjord
frail dune
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who tf else do you think I was talking about

subtle fjord
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Fucking retarded

frail dune
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when I said "her role is even more niche"

subtle fjord
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Why do you think Lilliam is good

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Cause her S3 is one hit burst

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And ignores BB

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Unless BB already activated from previoius damage

frail dune
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doesn't BB mitigate damage strictly after 55% hp not based on hits?

subtle fjord
frail dune
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why are people talking about bloodbath yeli in the first place then

finite narwhal
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I don't have vero so I was planning to pick her on the box, then ended up getting her 2x while burning my summons, now the box will be worthless. this game trolls me hard man lmaoo

frail dune
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@keen apex sorry for the ping, is that true about bloodbath and single hits?

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i coulda swore i heard people talking about yeli bloodbath countering hoyan

wanton tartan
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Wait what

wanton tartan
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I'm pretty sure it affects 1 hits

subtle fjord
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Anyone free to lobby test right now

craggy phoenix
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Bloodbath definitely affects single hits otherwise that shit would be useless in rengokutsu

frail dune
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i was gonna say, I run BB on my kloss and vice

wanton tartan
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LMAO

subtle fjord
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Anyhow, anyone wanna try?

frail dune
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that's besides the point, i just think hoyan was too niche at the time

craggy phoenix
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Yea id actually like to see

subtle fjord
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Imma try Keeneye Hoyan

craggy phoenix
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I'm not actually sure now that u bring it up

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But surely it affects single hits

subtle fjord
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into a Hoyan S3

frail dune
subtle fjord
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I'm down for anyone who wants to test

craggy phoenix
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If bb works it says

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Bloodbath

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When it takes the hit

dense thunder
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bb accounts for total dmg

craggy phoenix
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Are u on rn Versailles

dense thunder
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if it was per instance of damage it would be more balanced

craggy phoenix
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We can run a simulation

subtle fjord
frail dune
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also so many people are running effect res rn

craggy phoenix
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Ok

subtle fjord
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Actually I just made a room

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Its made by Chinese name

brisk crest
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i feel like the ppl trying to say bb doesnt work are those trying to stop bb from getting nerfed next balance patch lmao

subtle fjord
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and has Lilliam pfp with purple RTA frame

frail dune
craggy phoenix
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Ok

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I'll look

wanton tartan
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Just a tip if you wanna test with/without BB. Run a BB helmet without defensive stats, then just remove it. So you have BB on/off with the same stats

craggy phoenix
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I'm aurora

subtle fjord
craggy phoenix
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Yes

frail dune
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@subtle fjord i don't have any problems with you, quick as you are to throw insults, just understand my points aren't baseless

subtle fjord
craggy phoenix
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Ok

subtle fjord
frail dune
subtle fjord
subtle fjord
frail dune
subtle fjord
craggy phoenix
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Yea

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It works

frail dune
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wasn't turn 2 starting to become more prevalent and CC was also very prominent at the time

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it was literally just a speed check, and hoyan is countered by cc no?

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sure you can run bulwark, but ppl ran mia or obol + cc

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or they just ran superspeed lily/tsukiyo with massiah

craggy phoenix
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Real talk though

subtle fjord
craggy phoenix
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How TF did ur hoyan not crit xd

subtle fjord
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And that's after Yeli

craggy phoenix
subtle fjord
frail dune
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and obols

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it was just a speed game, whoever was faster would win, cc or cleave

subtle fjord
craggy phoenix
frail dune
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in fact the only time i saw hoyan was someone countering my cleave team in gvg

frail dune
subtle fjord
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She was used quite a bit in Diamond and above RTA and you usually ban Massiah

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Enemy rev cleaves, Hoyan counters and revives some ally that died

frail dune
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people just drafted cc no?>

limpid prawn
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Hoyan not that great anymore since cleave was nerfed

frail dune
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again with mia and obol

subtle fjord
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which was a cleave meta

frail dune
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and your point about uninvested hoyan?

subtle fjord
subtle fjord
frail dune
subtle fjord
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Cause she kills squishies

uneven scarab
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Every feedback develops into RTA discussion 😂

subtle fjord
limpid prawn
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It does but nobody plays cleave as much anymore and everybody and there mom has bloodbath

frail dune
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i mean this guy still hasn't disproven my point that she was and still is a niche pick especially at the time

frail dune
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especially at higher ranks as you say

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can't ban everything

subtle fjord
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When Kekker started spamming it to beat people in RTA

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Kraken was more prevalent

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Until that point

frail dune
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this is also not mentioning people also ran val to counter her

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and how many people were running bulwark hoyan at the time uninvested?

subtle fjord
limpid prawn
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Hoyan does not one shot my bb yeli

frail dune
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so my point is proven

limpid prawn
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And if u strip her bulwark and cc her shes useless

frail dune
subtle fjord
frail dune
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i mean

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the counter to cleave is just be faster too

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or cut before their dps

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also at higher rank

limpid prawn
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Its not meta anymore the meta is bb healer and bruisers

frail dune
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turn 2 no?

limpid prawn
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Shes not killing any of those

frail dune
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sure something can be a counter to meta

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but it's not the definitive counter and has a lot of counters against itself

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how does she perform into turn 2 or cc?

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oh yeah

subtle fjord
limpid prawn
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Whats ur point?

frail dune
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he thinks hoyan wasn't a niche pick at the time and in fact was quite a universal value pick

subtle fjord
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And we branched off into Hoyan

limpid prawn
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It is a niche pick to counter yeli

frail dune
subtle fjord
frail dune
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sure, but there are a lot of things that need to fall into place beforehand

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i've still yet to see a nahor in pvp

subtle fjord
frail dune
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and who uses him in pve except maybe doki2 and cage rumble?

frail dune
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lets not talk about hoyan's pve prospects aside the one niche one shot terra comp

subtle fjord
frail dune
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i just think they at least need to supplement with better rgb dps

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so everyone can have the chance at pulling useable units to help farm for pvp

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and for those already set up to have better more comfortable clears in pve content

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because my original point was that the standard banner pool just kinda sucks

frail dune
limpid prawn
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I mean diting can clear most content and hes sr

frail dune
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i still can't 100 some tier 4 union bosses with him

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and i'd like to have rosa/xiada for better doki2 and aurora clearing, but standard banner said no

subtle fjord
frail dune
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fuqiu i'm not too sure about, she's good but you'd need to kinda build around her a bit

civic remnant
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It's a slap in the face for the people who got these characters. When i heard its a summoning event. I thought maybe they would increase the odds of a character we dont already own. Or target summon like RGB 100 wishes gets your character 200 for the LD?

frail dune
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i've really only used fuqiu so far for pvp and cage rumble, maybe a phantom nightmare but i usually just use sania and val

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heading in the right direction is releasing an event with predatory intent with a reward of units that mainly benefits new players

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care to explain the nuance?

subtle fjord
frail dune
subtle fjord
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And basically content where you can't use Lingluo she can function as a solo healer especially with Fortissimo

frail dune
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problem is i don't see where else i could use that combo, all my infernos are already clearing well

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maybe for a lily-less account it would have a lot more value

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i have been investing in doki2 for pvp tho, just need lattice so badly

peak talon
lusty anchor
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The selector 100% should be pick one out of all non L/D SSR

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literally no incentive to pull to the selector if you own the 3 choices.

frail dune
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i'd swipe for that in a heartbeat

lusty anchor
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exactly, idk why they would gatekeep this so hard. it makes doing the event for people who've played since day 1 not even do it

frail dune
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i don't think putting it at 200 would affect new players either, they get so many gems and pulls

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and if they announced this a week earlier too there'd be no issue whatsoever

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idk the idea is good but the execution is kind of a fumble

lusty anchor
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it's great if you've just started the game and u didn't pull kloss or tsuki

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kloss is the only real big ticket option out of it. Tsuki and Veronica are situation and very nieche

frail dune
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new players aren't the ones bringing in the money tho

lusty anchor
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most people used their first selector on kloss, i'm sure they have data for that

frail dune
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and lets be honest, you don't even need tsukiyo if you're a new player, just reroll for lily

lusty anchor
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why would a whale go for the SSR reward, honestly it should be swapped with the latice if they wanted to make money

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anyways this event is a clownfest and it's clear, the people who made the event, don't play the game

frail dune
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idk people feel as though putting in a selector like that once would completely kill their revenue as if a move like that wouldn't be a sign of good faith from the devs as well as lighten the unit requirements for pve for most players, and most ppl that need the selector probably aren't swiping that much anyways

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if they want money, release slightly better units to replace or provide better utility than the current standard banner units. Yes it's powercreep, but if done right, with how generous they are with pulls, every player has access to these units

strong hazel
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sigh not again

lusty anchor
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they should just have the cube challenge permanently, it's by far the best one imo

frail dune
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@jagged belfry

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care to give a counterpoint?

tardy ore
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i mean the whole point of this even is to make people use their pulls so they spend for the enxt rgb, that is the main point here

lusty anchor
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ok so we gonna use our pulls if it's a good selector not this mediocre choose from 3 u probably have

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i'll be saving my pulls

sharp river
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rewards are only good after 200 pulls ... before that it's nothign to shout about ... certainly nothing to drain your pool. i.e. if you can't finish the event to get the good rewards, better just wait for next unit you can guarantee

steep vine
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I have all 3. This event blows for anyone in position, they should have just gave a standard selector.

stoic wigeon
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lol this sure summoned the white knight brigade

subtle fjord
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It's an actually great event for once especially since most of us are still missing one of these units

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Or me, missing all 3

dull kettle
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Because devs are clowns. They get more from only putting 3 units in selector than entire RGB roster. Basically not giving any free unit to some that already has 3 of em. Absolute cringe devs imo.

subtle fjord
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Not a random event 2 months in

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RGB selector = this event will rarely rerun

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Limited selector to 3 units they choose at a time? Can run more frequently

dull kettle
frail yacht
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Or they dont make the event like this at all and no one losing out

dull kettle
stoic wigeon
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  • not much of a heads up
  • running event right after people prolly dumped a bunch of summons into liliam
  • prolly run another new RGB dual banner after people dump a bunch of summons into this event
dull kettle
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L devs

subtle fjord
subtle fjord
subtle fjord
# stoic wigeon while i agree the premise is great - 'summon and get free stuff and a selector y...

I can agree but this is one of their better executions. It could use improvement.

running event right after people prolly dumped a bunch of summons into liliam

This isn't really relevant though. Different summons and if you fished for Lilliam with RGB summons... well, get fucked

prolly run another new RGB dual banner after people dump a bunch of summons into this event
This is valid but if my understanding is right, next RGB banner will be solo. This one needs clarification as its confusing. But also, what are the odds the next RGB unit is better than Kloss/Tsukiyo? Those are top tier units

sharp river
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frankly, don't really care for the wish event. i have more than enough units to have variety in the game, but severely short on resources to level them up. if you are like level 20, and still building up roster it's great, but otherwise, other than the 1 gold tofu, nothing i need.

subtle fjord
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Regardless of the above though, its still a good event

dull kettle
subtle fjord
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And for anyone missing Kloss/Tsukiyo? It's a great event

subtle fjord
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Its a rerun banner with 3 options and you can only get 1 BUT you can summon and get other units too with your 100

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If you think about it in this way, its a great event

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And even if you have all 3, you have to admit "rerun banners" are good for the game

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and for players

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and might be even good for you in the future

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Missed Holden after he became OP? Could be in next event

dull kettle
sharp river
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agree its not a bad event. if you have been playing since launch ... maybe not so useful

subtle fjord
subtle fjord
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I know a few other whales spending 2k+ who were missing atleast one of the units here

sharp river
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i have all 3 only built 1 😂

subtle fjord
sharp river
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no disagreement there --- the pool is going to get larger as time goes by. if this is recurring with swapping units - W

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dont look too short term

subtle fjord
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It is a question as @dull kettle said of how frequent it would bbe

sharp river
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cool

subtle fjord
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I would assume every 2 months though but too early to tell

dull kettle
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I don’t even give a sht of the events so far since launch I do them just coz they’re there. I just hope they implement more qol like being able to just replay you’re previous successful inferno runs 😭

subtle fjord
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Its a good supplement to rerun banners (which I'd still want)

subtle fjord
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Which if they do and are decently generous, is huge QoL

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Waiting for the announce with 6 days

sharp river
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c's big annoucement is in 6 days?

dull kettle
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They did say they cooking something up. Hopefully huge QOLs.

subtle fjord
sharp river
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thought he made the comment meaning it will come tomorrow --- hahaha

subtle fjord
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It could literally be tonight for all we know but he did say it was within 6 days

subtle fjord
subtle fjord
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But lets seeeee

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Apparently C is confident

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that us doomers will stop dooming

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Sooooo

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And after he sees how degen this community has been, if he's confident it has to be good

dull kettle
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They better not be burnt zf_hahaha

subtle fjord
meager canyon
rough condor
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Im confident to say this event is for new players

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200 summon for 1 ssr lattice.................

subtle fjord
azure sonnet
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yea, I know a lot of people who got baited by CCs saying to target summon rilmocha for doki2 instead of kloss

clear saddle
uneven scarab
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Pay some ccs to update their 'beginner' guide to stop recommending the rat and get one of the three dv_frogKekOwO

clear saddle
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Frfr

subtle fjord
clear saddle
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I might be wrong on that haha but it makes sense to me Shruge

tired mango
meager canyon
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Its just how long they want to drag it

clear saddle
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but actively wanting power creep to happen is wild to me

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Honestly im happy how Liliam went, she will grow a lot the time more units come and already has her niche spot

tired mango
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One of the best parts about the game is the devs continually saying they want to avoid powercreep.

If they were doing it 2 months into launch the game really would be dead with the amount of lattices we get.

clear saddle
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yes

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im p sure they had this in mind

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although I think you can slightly increase the lattice amount by like 1-1.3 per week, wouldnt be bad especially for f2p or casuals who cant get the end game lattice

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Also, 200 for the lattice breakpoint isnt that bad imo. Not going for the 300 tho

meager canyon
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Im not even gonna go 200 tbh

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I already have all 3 of the selector units so im.not even pulling

glass ether
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300 is a scam

meager canyon
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L event for me

glass ether
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but I'm pretty sure the selector was meant to be 300

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and the ticket was 100

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they just swapped it around to build hype for SOMETHING BIG IS COMING

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game is saved

meager canyon
worthy heron
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Bug

meager canyon
glass ether
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they are gonna release cage rumble 2.0

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featuring febian+phoebe, kururu, astarte + all 5 adds

meager canyon
glass ether
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but the astarte adds are all the disorder one

meager canyon
glass ether
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thats the next big thing

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when they said big they didnt mean generous

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they meant big as in amount of mobs

meager canyon
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Looking at it realistically

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C has a list pinned

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Of all the changes hes pushing

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He says this gonna be big and we gonna be happy so i expect some of that list to be implemented at least

clear saddle
worthy heron
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Who said 20 k training data right

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That guy

tired mango
meager canyon
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Poor jack zf_hahaha

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Man getting bashed every single day

worthy heron
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Idk that video came into my feed

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Does dreambaa give 20 k

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Training data

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I can level my budo panda with it later

glass ether
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it don't, it give 8k

tired mango
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Imagine if it actually gave 20k. Would be so dumb.

Endgame is already swimming in training data. Reconfig chips are the actual bottleneck

meager canyon
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tons of ppl were complaining about training data

worthy heron
meager canyon
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they just havent farmed enough to feel the config chip bottle neck

worthy heron
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Is jenazad still playing etheria

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Who will fill his spot in future

frail yacht
glass ether
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well the CCs playing etheria willingly without a paycheck are like

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volkin, seanb, bread, tim

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probs a few more

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seii and artiar too I think

south osprey
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nice selector, 3 units only how are we supposed to aim for the units we're missing

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even for a spender i hate this event

viscid gull
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Free kloss for everyone is actually huge

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It doesn't matter if you are new or endgame, she is amazing

south osprey
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i take everything back got my random missing tiamat, best event ever 20 out of 10

amber lily
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This summon count is criminal 😂

dull kettle
clear saddle
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11-44 range is crazy

fallow cove
marble shale
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200 Pulls, 2x Kloss dupe, 2x Tsuki Dupe crazy summon rates gg

frail yacht
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200 pull
New heinrich,freya/rahu/holden dupe gigi

meager canyon
dull kettle
obtuse silo
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W event. i got my missing holden and selected for veronica

noble eagle
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Pulled 200 times got 6 dupes

median plaza
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Selector does not sucks. It is amazing. They just need to make the event recurrent and rotate the three heroes from the selector so eventually everyone manage to get the heroe they are missing. When you dont need any if them, you can skip it and save until the next one

uneven scarab
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Subject to change ofc. Maybe the next one just gives us all the RGB to choose from 👀

median plaza
uneven scarab
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That would go hard, but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe around anniversary?

topaz canopy
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selector sucks if you have max dupe of the three characters offered cryCat

median plaza
obtuse silo
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turandot yang kazuyo reverie
veronica kloss tsukiyo mi

light surge
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W event, went from 52 to 58 animus, was annoyed about the selector at first but then I just pulled Holden and Celince anyway so it didn't matter. It would be nice if it was a real selector though

opaque lotus
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I wonder how often wishbinder will come around

topaz canopy
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and then finished off to hoard ssr tickets ig

uneven scarab
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Personally voting Tiamat for blue 👀

obtuse silo
opaque lotus
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i hope to see celince in there next

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holden would be huge

obtuse silo
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i want rosa

uneven scarab
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Damn Ratmolcha

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But she enables speed clears for 2x

uneven scarab
fast stratus
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So how many couldn’t control their urges and went 300 summons?!

topaz canopy
fast stratus
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Well…. Good point

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That’s excused!

viscid gull
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I went to 200 and got 7 dupes and kloss from the selector so I can't complain

fast stratus
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That’s really good!

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I guess the doomsayers about the event are now hibernating?

viscid gull
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Probably, a free kloss is huge for whoever didn't have her

strong hazel
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people with all 3 selector characters complaining, meanwhile the rest of us been living without these characters and getting by

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😡 😡

chilly pumice
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The bad part of this event is having a week to get 300 summons. Whale event

opaque lotus
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what u want a red shadowprint and random dupe that bad for

peak talon
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I'm not even complaining, I'm probably going for a Veronika dupe

steel cipher
frail yacht
chilly pumice
frail yacht
hallow trout
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have real ssr selector pls

pearl orchid
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always love getting a useless selector

strong hazel
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this event is mostly good for new players who can easily get 300 summons