Wishbinder Event SSR Selector Sucks

[subtle fjord]

But also, you got the eunit you wanted in 100 summons, if you can luccsacc that you are good

[torpid arch]

man, i have the most of the units in there also saved my summons kinda also i probably will have atleast the 100 summons ready for that event but still, when i have to save up anything and everything then why play then when i cant use the stuff i get because i have to wait for events and stuff

[maiden pendant]

This is the major problem with this comunity the things they do right get flamed cuz somehow the dumb players still didnt quit the game

[fading jewel]

yeah

[subtle fjord]

Tbf, the next box (event rerun) will feature different units

So its actually quite nice for the long run too

[kind osprey]

damn

200 pulls

thought it wasn't gonna be "that bad"

[uneven scarab]

you heard it here people
Versailles says Lily is in the next box

[subtle fjord]

The lattice is for whales, focus on the selector bruh

[granite ember]

Event is fine as a catch up event for that need it

[subtle fjord]

100 for selector is huge

[kind osprey]

what am I gonna do with a selector bruh

stick it up my ass?

[undone pier]

And it would hurt a bit to get the rest of those 100 summons and 60 to get both new rgb units when they release, what i would like to say is better to overlap this event with the release of new units

[kind osprey]

all 3 of those units are max duped for me

[subtle fjord]

Well apparenetly you can pull everything out of there so might as well

[undone pier]

It would give u a chnace to maybe get new units on perm

[subtle fjord]

If you have all 3, this event target isn't you

[fading jewel]

that's why gacha games always end up having a huge amount of player drop. these kinda event it's not good for the game itself and still have some brainless saying that they're right

h o l y

[hallow citrus]

"omg what if i roll 21 speed on all my speed gears and then they improve the resource economy. Then that means all my lucky gear rolls won't give me that much of an advantage anymore!"

[subtle fjord]

its the people with bricked lacking accounts

[kind osprey]

there's a lattice in there how is it not for me then

[subtle fjord]

Kloss is huge for the Klossless

[hallow citrus]

braindead mindset

lol

[kind osprey]

so cuz I don't have a need for the units, so I shouldn't be getting the lattice

[subtle fjord]

Oh yaeh you maxed dupe, so I guess you are a whale and the lattice is for you

[kind osprey]

would've loved to see the reaction if the box was at 200

and the lattice at 100

[undone pier]

We are talking about 2 totally different things

[hallow citrus]

i'd just quit lol

[kind osprey]

didn't you already quit?

[hallow citrus]

bait me with getting a kloss

no i came back cuz they started making actually good changes

lmao

[subtle fjord]

Thing is, an extra lattice wont greatly impact anyones account really... a Kloss/Tsukiyo though? Huge impact on accounts that dont have em already

This event can literally save/fix peoples accounts

[leaden crater]

How exactly is this event not good for the game? It’s a great event for new players and current players who are missing these units.

[hallow citrus]

anyone who dislikes this event just wants the game to do poorly

LOL

[fading jewel]

exactly, new players

[hallow citrus]

like genuinely

[subtle fjord]

Okay tbf, some people have all 3 untis

But they aren't the target

[hallow citrus]

then they should shut the fuck up

[granite ember]

Agree lol

[kind osprey]

having union members that are able to clear all content on auto without any of those 3 means that those who need their account "saved/fixed" are just braindead

[hallow citrus]

cuz clearly they don't have the same issues as the people who benefit from the event

[lime yew]

Anyone crying about this event are the real "doomers" just skip the event if you don't like it, it's great for people who need one of the 3 characters, it's also amazing for new players and at the end of the day that's what we need, more players. You miss out on barely anything by skipping this and saving for the next RGB.

[fading jewel]

lol

you guys are insane

cya

[subtle fjord]

Yes but you have to admit those 3 units make things much easier? Well, 2 of them.

I also dont have any of these 3 but cleared all PvE and 3k+ on Cage, mythic RTA and even finished top 1 Arena AI. Still hugely impactful to get Kloss or Tsukiyo

[uneven scarab]

glad I have the self control to skip what isn't for me

[hallow citrus]

mfs be crying while using their ssania lily to clear terror and running around using kloss everywhere

[civic tartan]

I mean shouldn’t an event benefit everyone? Why does it gotta cater to a specific demographic

Although the rewards would have to be changed for that

[kind osprey]

because this community is selfish af

[subtle fjord]

Vero apparently has some use in Terror but eh

[maiden pendant]

Vai pela sombra

[civic tartan]

I don’t mind the milestones for the rewards

[kind osprey]

coudl've been a selection between the box/lattice

[civic tartan]

But like why not make the selector all RGB

that would’ve helped every player

[subtle fjord]

This event will eventually benefit people as the units will change later on

[hallow citrus]

this i can kind of agree with tbh

i can see a reasoning for it

[subtle fjord]

Its a great event to have, think of it as a special type of "targeted" banner

[fading jewel]

kk

[edgy meteor]

I have a feeling it will in the next selector event.

[civic tartan]

Like the event is so specific it’s annoying

These devs keep testing their players it’s so dumb

[hallow citrus]

i think the only 2 units u really HAVE to have for pve content that makes it significantly harder when u don't have

is kloss ad lily

[subtle fjord]

You'll still have people complaining "I have every RGB, this event is useless"

[hallow citrus]

with tsuki being a lily replacement

[torpid arch]

its just sad that u have to put the equivalent of 466,44€ into that event to complete the event, thats a fact u all miss, thats way to much it doesnt matter how u obtained the summons they are still equivalent to that summ of money

[hallow citrus]

yea exactly

[subtle fjord]

Also tbf

[hallow citrus]

thats not how it works at all

LMAO

[tranquil ledge]

They could have had it be a selector for any like what summoners war does. But at least now we have some guarantee of the standard banner unit

[maiden pendant]

This guy is delusional xd

[subtle fjord]

We don't know for sure that this will be limited to RGB. This is a good event that can change to have LD on half anni/anni

[granite ember]

Too op they are still a business, seems people forget that this is a gacha game. Im actually impressed they did a selector before anniversary event

[hallow citrus]

literally fucking delulu

holy

[tranquil ledge]

not gonna happen

[kind osprey]

they could've literally have it be a selection between lattice/box

and it would've been nice for all

[hallow citrus]

we don't?

[civic tartan]

It’s not that’s like the normal standard for gacha

[subtle fjord]

Yup! They could change it to that in a year or something but its already a great start

[hallow citrus]

isn't it out on asia

lol

[lapis ocean]

do you also have to buy out the weekly shop every week xd

[kind osprey]

those who couldn't get use of the selector, still get a lattice

[civic tartan]

Selectors are normal for gacha and Etheria couldn’t even meet the bare minimum

[tranquil ledge]

if they do then gg, sw couldnt even do an ld4 selector for 10 years

[hallow citrus]

i do think there should be an alternative reward

[subtle fjord]

We don't, this is the first time this event ran. Its possible an LD appears or on Anni it will have LD

[hallow citrus]

if u have all 3 units

[hallow citrus]

no i mean

can't we see whether its a rgb selector

or just the 3 units?

[lime yew]

Yeah just quit guys, there are real issues with the game and this isn't one of them

[granite ember]

Maybe normal in 5+ year old gacha yes but never seem in new beside AFK gachas

[hallow citrus]

this literally is a solution to one of the core issues to the game if anything

and its genuinely free too

[subtle fjord]

We know its 3 units

[uneven scarab]

We don't know if they have that planned for a big celebration
2 months into the game btw

[hallow citrus]

oh okok

[civic tartan]

If a game offers a selector it will be a wide range of units is what I meant

I know all games don’t have many selector

[hallow citrus]

ok tho also

[subtle fjord]

Yeah a FULL RGB selector 2 months is kinda crazy

[hallow citrus]

alot of games also have a similar selector situation

[torpid arch]

Wuwa has a selector from the start, atleast for weapons

[hallow citrus]

MOST have ones where u can only get certain units

[edgy meteor]

The dev of this game somewhat doesn't have that "completionist" for everyone mindset lol I feel you

[lapis ocean]

we have a selector to start the game

[subtle fjord]

I could see a full selector 6 months in for half anni

[tranquil ledge]

wuwa had it for the character and weapon at the start

[kind osprey]

you mean like a targeted banner?

[hallow citrus]

so did we tho

lol

[kind osprey]

that released at the start?

[civic tartan]

Honestly they should just have is a target banner again

[granite ember]

Also who knows maybe its a rotating event selector next one might have different heroes

[tranquil ledge]

I never said we didnt. Im correcting him

[uneven scarab]

we also have a selector at the start

[subtle fjord]

Yeah but thats the start

[kind osprey]

where you had to spend pulls on to get it?

[hallow citrus]

oh icic

gotcha

[civic tartan]

This specific 3 unit selector feels seculusiveb

[subtle fjord]

A full RGB selector every 2 months would be crazy

[kind osprey]

nah

[hallow citrus]

u say that like 50 pulls means ANYTHING

lmao

[civic tartan]

We can only “wait” for the next one so many times haha

[uneven scarab]

Got me feeling like I'm a white knight with how demanding this discord gets at times

[kind osprey]

I mean that's my whole point

[hallow citrus]

thats like, less than 5% of ur total pull currency

[kind osprey]

are you daft?

[civic tartan]

Either way the game is fun it just sucks with all these RNG bs and events

We know it’s a gacha

[hallow citrus]

apparently cuz i don't get what ur trying to prove

[fast stratus]

No kidding! Even if the lattice is “free” people will complain why not 2 🤣

[kind osprey]

we basically had a free FULL RGB selector at the start @hallow citrus

[hallow citrus]

yea but

[granite ember]

Loll yea

[subtle fjord]

Are you also gonna say "Rerunning old unit banners is useless, I already have them!"

[hallow citrus]

so do most gachas that this game can be compared to

thats why that banner is kinda irrelevant i the discussion tbh

[civic tartan]

Definitely not that’s dumb lol I’d love dupes don’t assume

[tranquil ledge]

people said that about wuwa when they released every character banner for anni

[subtle fjord]

But thats what I'm saying, this event is basically a modification of a targeted banner. Its pretty close.

[subtle fjord]

...Damn

[hallow citrus]

i think they did it this way

[kind osprey]

260 points for a red shadowprint

💀

[hallow citrus]

so that they don't need ot give LD selector in half anni or anni

cuz if they givve rbg selector now

[tranquil ledge]

thats whale territory

[hallow citrus]

and they wanted to give one for half anni for example

it'd be the same

[tranquil ledge]

we dont need to concern ourselves with the whales

[subtle fjord]

Even the 200 for Lattice is whale territory to me

[hallow citrus]

so would kinda kill the excitement

i think it makes sense for this one to be a limited selector

half anni be a full rgb selector

[kind osprey]

this event could've been done so much better

[hallow citrus]

anni be a LD selector

[uneven scarab]

Half-Anni and Anniversary is where I'm all in on demanding everything

[hallow citrus]

how tho

[uneven scarab]

I better see 12 lettuce in my mail

[hallow citrus]

other than alternative reward for those with all the units in the selector

[late aspen]

i am mid spender and i will skip this event the cost is horrible

[hallow citrus]

what cost

ur not paying any cost

[subtle fjord]

I mean, will Lettuce even be that big an issue in a year

[hallow citrus]

ur literally just

[kind osprey]

it could've been a shop, selector, lattice, red shadowprint could've been 100 points

[hallow citrus]

pulling

[uneven scarab]

I have all 3 so I'm skipping. I know who this is for so I'm not raging

[smoky anchor]

rewards until 100 are very worth

[hallow citrus]

ill kms if shadowprint is 100 points

[uneven scarab]

let the little guy have a W

[hallow citrus]

jesus fucking christ

[smoky anchor]

afterwards not really unles you are a spender

[hallow citrus]

what the fuck kind of braindead take is this

[craggy phoenix]

AS IF THE DEVS NEEDED TO CONVINCE ME TO GO GAMBLING

[kind osprey]

ah but a shadowprint at 260 pulls is fine?

[subtle fjord]

I think this could be a good improvement to it but its still pretty good as is

[hallow citrus]

shadowprint for 100 pulls???

[hallow citrus]

YEA ITS CALLED FRONTLOADED REWARDS

[kind osprey]

bro

[hallow citrus]

???

[craggy phoenix]

Oops caps

[kind osprey]

are you fucking dumb

[hallow citrus]

bro is pushing for anti-f2p practices

[kind osprey]

how?

[late aspen]

use 100 pull and have a new banner RGB after 2 week

[subtle fjord]

But also, no way red shadowprint would be 100 points lol

[smoky anchor]

its better to have all the good rewards in the first 100 than them to be spread out

[hallow citrus]

man if being dumb means disagreeing with you

[tranquil ledge]

only whales are going that hard

[hallow citrus]

then yea

[late aspen]

it is hard

[kind osprey]

omfg

[hallow citrus]

im the dumbest mf on the planet

[subtle fjord]

If Lettuce, Random RGB and Selector are 100 points, Red Shadow Print be like... 20

[kind osprey]

so a red shadowprint at 260 pulls is better than having it in a shop for 100?

[hallow citrus]

YEA

[kind osprey]

you need 160 pulls more after selector

[hallow citrus]

WHO TF IS PULLING

[kind osprey]

you need 60 pulls more after lattice still

[lapis ocean]

red at 260 is better than what we get now'

[hallow citrus]

160 MORE FOR SHADOWPRINT

LIKE ??

[lapis ocean]

nothing for summoning xd

[civic tartan]

They’re not

[subtle fjord]

Who is gonna buy it at 100 lmao when Lettuce is 100 and RGB Rando SSR is 100 and Selector is 100

[hallow citrus]

its SUPPOSED to be a bonus

[kind osprey]

bro can't see further than his fucking micropenis

literal brainrot

[hallow citrus]

ur just repeating the same fucking thing

[tranquil ledge]

thats fine though. people just go to 100 then dip and save for the new rgb in a few weeks

[kind osprey]

lives in his head

[hallow citrus]

without any sort of reasoning or justification

[uneven scarab]

Probably not but I like the security that I can max out whoever the anniversary unit is

[ember crypt]

The way they do events in this game is honestly some of the worst I have seen and I'm still trying to figure out what is their plan to monetize the game because I for one feel no need or interest in spending. Now the conclusion I take from this event is that they target newer players with it, next time they might target whales and we're in this perpetual loop of always having one party against the other. And if we are talking about events it's just crazy that it doesn't benefit the entire playerbase as a whole, it surely would benefit them too with how many detractors they seem to create each time

[craggy phoenix]

Dude can you say anything except personal insults zolri

[kind osprey]

no

[civic tartan]

Honestly I’m just salty Tiamat wasn’t in the selector

Besides that I’m bing chilling

[kind osprey]

if people are so daft to understand that an event could've been made for all

[craggy phoenix]

Like he made a point just make ur point and have a civil conversation

[hallow citrus]

can we just make another server

[kind osprey]

rather than only looking at themselves

[hallow citrus]

just for whales

[maiden pendant]

The thing you are forgeting is that for 260 you get all the shit from the 250 points before the lattice big brain guy

[uneven scarab]

You should've led with that. I agree!

[hallow citrus]

everything can be 10x the price

[craggy phoenix]

Is that so hard these days 😔

[hallow citrus]

and all the rewards can be shit

[subtle fjord]

Oh true! Which might mean they might actually do it tbh. Probably not as crazy as 12 though but who knows how economy is by then

[hallow citrus]

unless u spend the max amount

then maybe they will finally be happy

💀

[proven zealot]

optional shadowprint at lvl 260 is anti-f2p 😂

[craggy phoenix]

Hi mitsu

[subtle fjord]

But that's like complaining a banner rerun is not something made for all

[proven zealot]

im here for my daily brain rot

[hallow citrus]

did anyone say that

[kind osprey]

no cuz a banner is not an event

e7 do so many rerun banners I just skip

[smoky anchor]

u can get close to 100 summons from doing embertrek + doing investigation during 2x

[kind osprey]

but their events are there for everyone still

how can you compare the 2 and think you have a point

[proven zealot]

samool in a pvp mood too

[kind osprey]

this event is basically telling me hey others can enjoy but fuck you 🙂

[late aspen]

yeah sure and not farm items ?

[kind osprey]

you gotta spend twice the amount

[smoky anchor]

? people farm investigation anyways during 2x

[proven zealot]

but u need lvl up material eventually? LOL

[subtle fjord]

Eh, its a resource dump event, its not like Shell or whatever. It's also, from what I can tell, completely extra from the normal event cycle

So we dont really lose anything from it

We still get Candy, Train and whatever the last thing was

[kind osprey]

I would've loved seeing you defend this if it were 3 units you already had maxed duped cuz of dumb luck in perma banner

[craggy phoenix]

Yo guys insane take just don't pull at all if u don't like the event

[civic tartan]

Me here complaining about to look dumb swiping again

[subtle fjord]

I'd still defend it given how impactful 2 of these units are

[craggy phoenix]

Problem solved!

[hallow citrus]

pretty sure the thought process behind the event is "hey if you have extra pulls saved up and hesitated on pulling on standard banner, this event is for you"

"also if ur missing key pve units that help ur account progression this is also for you"

[smoky anchor]

then save for next banner? people are going to be low on summons but you have an advantage of being able to pull on next banner easily

[late aspen]

you can a bit but really not all of your stamina.
i guess it is not reall worth

[kind osprey]

I already have 400 pulls saved idfc

[subtle fjord]

Like, imagine if this event was Lily/Doki isntead. You have to see how good it would be for people even if you have Lily/Doki already

[civic tartan]

No one said to spend all your stam

[smoky anchor]

ok then stop crying

[summer island]

Devs are braindead - Zero spending on this shit

[kind osprey]

go back and make some more braindead e7 vids no

[hallow citrus]

i mean if they were giving fking hellkid, xiada, rilmocha in the selector, all 3 who i already have and don't want dupes of, i genuinely could not care less. I'd just be annoyed and questioning why the fuck they would choose those characters LOL

[craggy phoenix]

Why are u complaining for the ppl that don't have pulls then gang 😭

[smoky anchor]

i can make more braindead videos for you since those are the only ones that resonate with u

ur crying about an event that helps new players and is optional for lategame/whales

[subtle fjord]

Tbf it might be random later on

[hallow citrus]

later on yea

but this guy probably never developed object permanence

[kind osprey]

just like you cried about e7 epic dash giving less rewards for vets

[hallow citrus]

no point to discuss later on with him

lmao

[subtle fjord]

Rilmocha also good even if its kinda bait

[lapis ocean]

community whines about not having kloss, game gives kloss

[lime yew]

Noo not samool getting bullied again

[ember crypt]

So what exactly are we discussing here? Next time and event is made just for spenders are we also going to be fine? Because we can look to both sides and surely if we talk about events, having something that benefits every single player is the best for the playerbase and the base as a whole. Why do we complain about rng events if we apply the same logic I'm seeing being discussed right

[smoky anchor]

why do u remember my videos more than i do 🤣

[fast stratus]

I bet even if Lily is in the selector people will complain because they already have Lily 🤣

[smoky anchor]

ur kinda a freak

[kind osprey]

imagine being proud on being hypocritical 😄

[subtle fjord]

Yup and its reachable, 100 summons

Even most f2p can get that in the timeframe

[hallow citrus]

because spenders will spend anyways

[subtle fjord]

Especially if you use gems

[hallow citrus]

just give them something to spend on and they'll be happ

if its worth spending on

[smoky anchor]

yea its a 2 month game vs 8 year game

which one do you think has more new players?

[lime yew]

Always knew this zolri guy was mega smooth brain from the first time he replied to me lmao

[smoky anchor]

which one has more vets?

[hallow citrus]

spenders have complete access to everything a game has to offer

[smoky anchor]

no wrinkles in sight

[kind osprey]

damn you trying to get in his pants or something

lots of glazing to do

[lime yew]

Nah you're just a giga clown

[summer island]

Prolly e7 lmao, since these devs in ER are trash af

[smoky anchor]

glazing because people say ur being dumb

[summer island]

And e7 events are Fire atm

[maiden pendant]

We all can see that for the points hes making here xd

[hallow citrus]

arguing an event is bad because "it helps f2p and non-spenders" more than it helps people who have almost everything in the game is kinda just silly

[kind osprey]

where did I say that.

[sick drift]

It's dog shit unless if you want one of the three. Yellow lattice on 200 pulls is typical ♿dev behaviour.

[smoky anchor]

e7 is unplayable in pvp for new players btw but yes the new player rewards seem great on paper

[hallow citrus]

lets just fucking shut down food banks too right

[smoky anchor]

pvp gacha games are too hard to get into after a few years

[coarse flume]

Aight chill guys

[kind osprey]

I said I would've loved to see a more accessible way for ppl that already have the 3 units still gain something from this event that could be useful

[coarse flume]

Move on if you can't debate peacefully

[tranquil ledge]

stop baiting people when she is only used in one dungeon

[kind osprey]

without having to spend 160 extra pulls extra

[craggy phoenix]

That's what I'm saying man

[coarse flume]

And trashing devs will just result being timed out, just saying

[hallow citrus]

this is totally fair

saying shadowprint at 100 makes more sense

is not

LOL

[subtle fjord]

Yeah its a good event, people comparing it to E7 generosity but forget how mature E7 is as a game lmao

Bruh what

[hallow citrus]

bye

[craggy phoenix]

Bro what 💀

[hallow citrus]

[maiden pendant]

You are such a 10yo xd

[subtle fjord]

But its the best dungeon!

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

[tranquil ledge]

This is why you're the recolor knight

[craggy phoenix]

Speeder propaganda

I will not stand for such lies

[lapis ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/southpark-gone-gif-4781884

[craggy phoenix]

We've had 2 ppl banned td already

[ember crypt]

I will explain again because it seems my point wasn't clear and btw I'm a spender myself. We are talking about EVENTS, it's healthy if an EVENT can be enjoyed by all the players and it benefits the game and community as a whole. Next time we have an EVENT for spenders what do you think it's going to happen? There are plenty ways to make spenders spend and it's not with EVENTS for the good of the balance of the game

[kind osprey]

how dare you try and make sense

[subtle fjord]

That's like complaining whales can buy Lattice packs

[proven zealot]

why cant spenders enjoy it? im a spender and im missing all 3

[subtle fjord]

Eh, there are events that are like... double XP and it barely benefits older established players

[uneven scarab]

spenders vs new player civil war

[lime yew]

I roast these devs pretty much everyday but man this event is not an issue

[hallow citrus]

same

the ONLY point i can agree with

[kind osprey]

because you look only at yourself..

[hallow citrus]

is that if u have all 3 options

you should get an alternative reward

and if u have all 3 options duped out max

[craggy phoenix]

But you look at a demographic of players that you realistically cannot relate to

[river basalt]

That I completely agree with toasty. Cuz that’s me haha.

[hallow citrus]

then u should just receive either a random ssr selector or the next milestone or smth

[craggy phoenix]

U complain for the f2p ppl yet u have 400 pulls lying around

[river basalt]

Very reasonable take

[craggy phoenix]

Just let them speak for themselves gang

[kind osprey]

how can an event not be fun for BOTH f2p and spender

[hallow citrus]

if u don't have them duped out u don't really have justification for a random ssr or smth instead, because technically ur still receiving a benefit from the box

[craggy phoenix]

If they hate it so much they'll say something

[kind osprey]

it's wild how that is a bad take

[lime yew]

It's a new player and spender event, it is what it is. I know people don't want to hear it but new players and the spenders are what keeps the game alive

[hallow citrus]

but at the same time, i can understand if its frustrating to only get a dupe when others can get a missing unit

but blame ur own luck

thats a pretty normal thing in most gachas

[wanton tartan]

I think literally no one has all 3 p5 tbh

[lime yew]

And I'm skipping it on my main, so no I dont just think about myself

[wanton tartan]

Not worth the time to code that in

[proven zealot]

LMAOO

[hallow citrus]

i mean, never say no one but yea i agree

but then what

if u actually have all 3

just say fuck u?

[wanton tartan]

yeah, its fine

[hallow citrus]

at worst

oh wait actually no

it should just be converted into tickets

so u should just get 7500 of that dupe currency

that u can spend in the shop

ez

[kind osprey]

they don't even do that now with getting past 5 dupes

[civic tartan]

Uh oh Zolri gonna crash out

[hallow citrus]

thats probably how it is rn but i would never know

[hallow citrus]

what DO you get?

i wouldn't know

[kind osprey]

literally 250 summon currency thingy

for the summon shop

[hallow citrus]

oh

no dupe currency?

[kind osprey]

no

[smoky anchor]

its good for spenders tho

im literally going for veronika dupe off selector

[hallow citrus]

that sucks but pretty normal

[proven zealot]

how do you have f2p 400 pulls and not think the extra step of like Hey maybe other people could be missing one of the three

[hallow citrus]

but it should be better

tbf

u should def get at least

[kind osprey]

wait till you're at the point of getting dupes over 5th

let's talk then

[uneven scarab]

I agree

[hallow citrus]

3750 of the shop dupe currency (the one to buy dupes in the shop)

[edgy meteor]

I was worried about the summon points for the three selector last time, but now that it only requires 100, I'm seeing hope in the future lol.
I don't need to complete all the RGB units, I can still clear the game. Major scarce is the perfect lattice, other than that it's easy to obtain through time.

[hallow citrus]

i mean

its never gonna feel good

thats kinda expected

i mald about it

[proven zealot]

good event right

[hallow citrus]

but i don't expect changes

because thats just luck

ur playing a gacha game

[kind osprey]

nah your half ass solution would've made more sense

[wanton tartan]

thats the problem itself - you feel cheated cause people are getting stuff and you're not

[hallow citrus]

if ur lucky itll feel good, but if ur unlucky then gg

i mean honestly

if you stop to even think for half a second

[ember crypt]

That's not I'm saying... A lot of people can benefit from this event but it doesn't change the fact the target audience is mainly whoever is new. Again it's a problem if you start separating one and the other in EVENTS (IN SPECIFIC) because there will be a time it will benefit spenders and while a spender can benefit now as well, a non spender will not benefit on those EVENTS. A much reasonable option is to make something that as an EVENT benefits both. An EVENT should be exactly the moment any player can enjoy it, otherwise we have this kind of discussions that are nothing but pointless and not healthy

[hallow citrus]

what the purpose of the event is

you would understand why they did it the way they did

lol

it's CLEARLY meant to address the pve issue of requiring certani units

and to help people who weren't able to get kkloss or lily lol

like thats literally it

everything else is just a bonus

[kind osprey]

the purpose of the event is to make more money albeit from more new players joining the game, ppl being happy they get a new missing unit, or whales spending hard to get all rewards

that's the primary purpose of the event

[hallow citrus]

wel yea, and it does that

so whats the problem lol

[craggy phoenix]

So wait sorry I just need a better overview

[proven zealot]

im a day 1 and im missing all 3. how does this only benefit new players

[craggy phoenix]

What is your problem with the event exactly zolri

[subtle fjord]

Thing is, it may not benefit you as much now but it may in the future when it becomes 3 different units

[proven zealot]

itll rotate next time, who cares

[subtle fjord]

Same and I'm a spender (5/5 Yeli Beli)

[real needle]

Imagine doing an event like this, but not having it give you pulls.

If another gacha did an event like this, it would have something you do daily, and then get pulls from doing that

[proven zealot]

best girl

[subtle fjord]

Like, a lot of people are missing units

[hallow citrus]

idk because sometimes he makes sense and the other half of the time he just gets angry and starts spouting bullshit

[craggy phoenix]

Cuz over this conversation you went from saying whales wouldn't enjoy it to f2p wouldn't enjoy it to I have 400 pulls lying around and full duped characters

[proven zealot]

the game gives u so many pulls im sitting on 300

[subtle fjord]

Maid or Bikini skin when

[craggy phoenix]

So can I just have a tldr of what you don't like...

[hallow citrus]

and anyone arguing they didn't save is also dumb

cuz i didn't save either

i literally only started saving when the leak came out

[craggy phoenix]

I'm not saying it in a malicious way, it's just been a hectic chat and your original idea mightve been glossed over

[hallow citrus]

and i have 4k gems, and 50 summons

[civic tartan]

For real I just want some good cosmetics for my units not these recolor …. Although that Rosa recolor might get me but I must not be tempted

[proven zealot]

and the event is a week long, youll get plenty

[subtle fjord]

Theres still gonna be a few people who maxed Ember already and are gonna get fucked

[hallow citrus]

whiel also having pulled every limited banner unit so far (non-ld)

[wanton tartan]

they dont need to cause they already give an insane amount. If another gacha did an event like this, if they dont give pull currency along with the event its ridiculous. But here? I have 400+ from not even a month of saving

[uneven scarab]

I better see Xiada in a skin tight witch costume on Halloween

[subtle fjord]

Its a joke sadly 🙁

[tranquil ledge]

no joke

only facts

[subtle fjord]

I hope

[ember crypt]

I rest my case because some of you are really not seeing the big picture. When the events apply to spenders let's see the world burn because again as a spender I can look to both sides and doesn't matter what they do if I want I can get it. The same cannot be said when the tables are turned and we also need the f2p folks around here

[subtle fjord]

There might be some f2p that will have to give up refreshing but like, still most can probably hit 100

especially with week reset

[craggy phoenix]

I'm the f2p folk but I'm not exactly seeing the issue

[kind osprey]

basically: I have all 3 units max duped. So for me the selector is as useless as could be. I wanted to go for the lattice as my only reason. Now I see that I get shat on the first 100 pulls and have to do another extra 100.

I never said the event wasn't going to be enjoyed for f2p that has been said by others and linked to me for god knows what reason.

I said why not have a selection for a lattice OR the selector box at 100 pulls so both categories would've fulfilled. Those with the 3 units that don't need/want the dupes can get a lattice. Those who need/want one of those 3 units get the unit.

Whales can still still pull more for the EXTRA rewards later in the track

[hallow citrus]

ok, if ur missing the 3 units, spent ALL ur pulls and ALL ur resources, also rushed normal and hard ember and cleared everything else in the game, including shops, and u ALSO don't keep track of discord news/leaks/anything important. Sorry, can't help you. Like at that point its your goddamn fault LMAO

[proven zealot]

im spender and day 1 and see no issue either LMAO

[hallow citrus]

like its a game

if you play the game wrong

you can't blame the game for it

LOL

[lime yew]

Wot

[craggy phoenix]

Oh

[lime yew]

I read that wrong

[craggy phoenix]

That's actually...

[lime yew]

Thank god

[craggy phoenix]

Reasonable

[hallow citrus]

yea

it is deadeye

you know what else he said earlier

[proven zealot]

thats such an extreme edge case though, 99% of the playerbase doesnt apply to that

[subtle fjord]

Yeah I said earlier its a good thing to have a shop next time but that's feedback and an improvement. The event itself is still great

[hallow citrus]

that he would rather have the fucking red shadowprint be at 100 summons

instead of 260

and that it makes more sense there

[subtle fjord]

No he said have it cost 100 points

[hallow citrus]

isn't that

100 summons

lol

[craggy phoenix]

It is an edge case though I agree

[lime yew]

If they wanted a big W, they just had to make it an RGB selector, community wouldve gone crazy lol

[kind osprey]

I mean spending 160 extra would still be 160 extra pulls

[hallow citrus]

ye, but my theory is that theyre saving it for half anni or anni

[kind osprey]

I don't get why you're clinging so hard on that point

[subtle fjord]

Yes but it would be in shop format. Still don't know what degen would get it unless soemone felt like summoning 500 units for no reason or soemthing

[ember crypt]

Clearly but if the event applies in an different way you might start seeing an issue when everyone could be enjoying it because it's an event afterall

[craggy phoenix]

If I don't get a doki for anniversary I'm crashing out

[subtle fjord]

Need something for half anni though

[lime yew]

I think it'll be the "something special" in the announcement

[kind osprey]

ye and now you would have to do 260 pulls total to get it

[hallow citrus]

ehhhh

idk

[lime yew]

But who knows

[subtle fjord]

Could be

[hallow citrus]

i don't think thats the something special

the community wants tho

[craggy phoenix]

Why is everyone not allowed to enjoy the event?

[hallow citrus]

like RGB selector

[craggy phoenix]

It's free stuff for pulling

[hallow citrus]

isn't gonna magically fix all the problems

itll be a nice gift for sure

[subtle fjord]

Bro only whales doing that anyway, I'm getting my Kloss/Tsukiyo and being a happy camper waiting for the next shit

[hallow citrus]

and very much appreciated but i mean

doesn't contirbute towards the game long term as a fix

[subtle fjord]

I have no issues with red prints coming over time tbh

[lime yew]

Thats what the rest of the post addresses though, the something special will be a gift

[coarse flume]

I think I know what they should've done

[lime yew]

Maid Yeli skin 🔥

[ember crypt]

I already explained multiple times my point, I legit can't put it any better than I already did nor do I have the patience so time will tell

[subtle fjord]

Main thing of value here aside from selector is the Lattice

[hallow citrus]

yea but my and most people's point is, that its a bonus

[subtle fjord]

Release a maid Yeli skin is what they should have done

[hallow citrus]

its a very common thing in gacha

look at most HSR events

[proven zealot]

maid yeli at 400 summons sorry bud

[kind osprey]

I don't play hoyo games so not familiar

[subtle fjord]

I'll do it

[hallow citrus]

they give u the best rewards and currency upfront for scoring a minimal amount

and then if u wanna minmax

u get some coins and stuff

[craggy phoenix]

Versailles would do 4000 summons for a yeli skin

[hallow citrus]

its still resources but

they're less essential than the initial rewards

its meant to be more forgiving for the people who are just playing the game and wnating to enjoy their time

[coarse flume]

Whales that have already all dupes jump directly to 300 points, they could've make another step where people who had maxed dupes of the 3 Animus would jump to 100

[subtle fjord]

Okay not that much, my wife gonna think I'm simping to an OF girl or something with the cost of that lmao

[lime yew]

Off topic, the new ember trek ability is clapping my alt, it hits so hard for a new acc lol

[hallow citrus]

and not min-maxing EVERYTHING they do

[coarse flume]

So spenders would spend to the rest of rewards

Problem solved

[subtle fjord]

Actually yeah, thats a nice future improvement too

[lime yew]

I think new players gonna crash out over the ember trek ability ._.

[hallow citrus]

this is fantastic

yea

i think thats an amazing solution

[subtle fjord]

Since no one complains about GETTING Lattices

[proven zealot]

someone make a feedback that it couldve been an event shop next time

[subtle fjord]

Even the 100 point skip works too tbh

[hallow citrus]

makes it kinda awkward with the ssr random one tho

[ember crypt]

Or much simple than that, you spend summons, you get currency and you buy whatever you value the most. Why even trying to reinvent the wheel?

[craggy phoenix]

No I'm gonna combust and make a feedback channel demanding yeli skin now

[subtle fjord]

Yeah but you can save that when new units come

[craggy phoenix]

😠

[hallow citrus]

no i mean

[subtle fjord]

But also, people who have everything 5/5 aren't complaining LOL

[hallow citrus]

i think they wanted to make the selector

intentionally "cheaper"

than the random ssr

which makes sense

[craggy phoenix]

Id rather have the random one

[hallow citrus]

they don't want to "cheapen" the value of getting SSRs

[craggy phoenix]

What's the fun of knowing what I'm gonna get

[hallow citrus]

but they also wanna give people the ability to get the key pve units

[craggy phoenix]

When instead I could go gambling

[hallow citrus]

if they did a shop

it wouldn't make sense for random ssr to be more expensive than the selector

but they wouldnt' want to make it cheaper either

[ember crypt]

Why would they, it's exactly my point I'm not complaining for myself. I'm just pointing a flawed system that when it goes the other way around will affect those who can't or don't want to spend

[hallow citrus]

so a progression track does make the most sense tbh

[subtle fjord]

Valuation would change though

[uneven scarab]

I'm fine with this

[coarse flume]

@ember crypt Ain't my field, would need to put a price on everything inside the shop and adequate with the Anima Prototype price etc

[hallow citrus]

basically

asking for a shop

will just make it worse for players

like anyone can see this and realize

hey this is out of the ordinary

and its more generous than normal

[uneven scarab]

I CAN'T FINISH THE SHOOOOOOOOOOOOP

[ember crypt]

You already have prices for each item aside the new selector box, it's a matter of conversion

[hallow citrus]

its not aligned with their previous rewards and stuff like that

[subtle fjord]

Yeah there's some trade offs with having a shop. It's not a bad idea but just skipping 100 points if you have all 3 is probably better tbh

[hallow citrus]

yea

i agree

skipping the track is the best solution

no doubt

because it preserves whatever valuation and intention they had behind the event

[kind osprey]

you miss out on earlier rewards?

[hallow citrus]

no

[kind osprey]

that are not in the rest of the track

[hallow citrus]

nonono

lets say u do 100 pulls

normally u'd get to the selector box

but u can choose to skip the box

[subtle fjord]

Yup! So valuations would change too

[hallow citrus]

and get the lattice

which is what u want right

[kind osprey]

SO you mean

the fucking shit I said before

but because it was said by fool

it suddenly is an amazing idea

[grand widget]

yeah isnt marketed to do that anyways

[hallow citrus]

yea because he doesnt' suggest to move red shadowprint to 100

[subtle fjord]

Fool said get 100 points if you have all 3. That was the best idea imo

[coarse flume]

@ember crypt I mean, there are already weekly packs and stuff like that, so you have to find some kind of equilibrium betweem all these things

[hallow citrus]

ye

[kind osprey]

I didn't suggest the red shadowprint to be moved at 100

show me proof of me saying that

[grand widget]

just something for the meantime before other updates

[kind osprey]

I said it could've been a shop where all 3 had the same value

[hallow citrus]

^

[kind osprey]

in a shop

[hallow citrus]

and then i said yes

[subtle fjord]

^^, all he said was make it 100 points in a shop. But also, no way they should be same value as others. Its 260 for a reason

[kind osprey]

can you read

[hallow citrus]

and then u said i can't see farther than my micropenis

[subtle fjord]

Red Print isn't the main course, its just an appetizer here

[hallow citrus]

so sorry if i tend to value your opinion less than the guy who doesn't insult my private parts

[kind osprey]

exactly cuz apparently you didn't read the "IN A SHOP" part

[kind osprey]

pretty rich from someone calling me a smooth brain

[hallow citrus]

look this sentence is convoluted as fuck

[kind osprey]

how is it convoluted

[hallow citrus]

if u can't write a proper cohesive sentence

[kind osprey]

it's the first 5 words??

[hallow citrus]

why do u expect me to understand it

[kind osprey]

crazy hill to die on

[subtle fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/jeanne-d-arc-alter-jalter-jeanne-d-arc-jeanne-fate-gif-27155196

[hallow citrus]

i asked how would you improve the event

you said that it could have been a shop

[kind osprey]

I will talk in 5

[subtle fjord]

Toasty is on Aderall, forgive him

[hallow citrus]

then i assumed that was the end of one phrase

[kind osprey]

word sentences from now on

maybe then you can understand

my sentences a lot better

[hallow citrus]

well

probably

[kind osprey]

because apparently you can't read

[hallow citrus]

why do u think i type like this

[subtle fjord]

FAIR POINT HERE, THIS IS HOW TOASTY TALKS

[kind osprey]

further than that amount

[hallow citrus]

[subtle fjord]

So he actually

[hallow citrus]

and no one has trouble under fucking standing me

[subtle fjord]

probably understands you better

if you talk like that

[kind osprey]

you're the only one

who doesn't understand me right

[craggy phoenix]

4 word sentence I cannot understand you anymore

[kind osprey]

now

[wanton tartan]

you two can kiss now

[subtle fjord]

Damn it, you fell for the Toasty Virus. You talk the same now. Don't give in to his agenda

[wanton tartan]

or that

[maiden pendant]

AHhah

[hallow citrus]

now i won't be the only one getting pinged by the bot constantly

[uneven scarab]

[hallow citrus]

😎

[uneven scarab]

oh my

[hallow citrus]

anyways whats the standard non-ssania terror comp?

non yei

yeli*

diting kloss lily who

[subtle fjord]

No Yeli? Restart

[wanton tartan]

Do you have mia?

mia cachi is based for non-speed run

[ember crypt]

I know and that's also my point since what you have already follows a logic and applies in some cases discounts, it's not that hard to make the valuation work. But that was just a suggestion and my main point still stands, I just would like to see events that apply to everyone since they are events. And again this event doesn't affect me whatsoever, I have what I want to heart's content anyway and in general the balance between spenders and f2p is good which I appreciate as well. Just talking of the events aspect that I see a precedent for future problems

[subtle fjord]

You know what we should all be fighting about?

Champion's Call is back

[ionic falcon]

i use holden rahu valerian helkid fuqiu for terror

[hallow citrus]

no mia

[ionic falcon]

it’s 100% and 1:45

[hallow citrus]

no mia no celince no kloss no beyontin

account troll af

at least now kloss

[kind osprey]

wait didn't you say earlier to me that if you didn't like the event you could just not interact with it?

just don't play champion's call, there's ppl who enjoy sportsbetting even in Etheria

[subtle fjord]

Yeah I probably skip and pick champion randomly

[untold mantle]

Bro is Canadian

[wanton tartan]

champions call takes the spot of the rotating events, this one is on top of the normal schedule

[subtle fjord]

Unless I see Lily then ofcourse I have to pick that team even if it has dogshit team where Lily Twintricks Beyontin

But on a serious note, champion's call has other issues aside from its randomness

They fixed some of it though

But theres still issues of it being time gated

I'd love to bbe able to pre-bet

[untold mantle]

It doesn't outright say what it costs to play

Used to

[fast stratus]

Only event I know you can go negative 🤣

[ember crypt]

This on its own would already make it an awful event

[kind osprey]

on a serious note as well they should just remove the event ye

[coarse flume]

Well champion of call pre beta

[kind osprey]

it's a shit event anyways

[coarse flume]

Was 500k silver

[subtle fjord]

My gosh.

[coarse flume]

Imagine if they've would've kept that way

Hopefully they listened me to there

[dense thunder]

I prefer old champions call

[kind osprey]

think I only played it in the first rotation and never again

[dense thunder]

300 HC for lattice

[fast stratus]

I mean what was the reward? Better be 2M+!

[coarse flume]

I think it was the same as now

[fast stratus]

[coarse flume]

And for hydra you could get an Apex Prototype

[dense thunder]

it wasn’t

[subtle fjord]

Random champ predict is still fine but yeah the brackets... ugh. I'd like to pre-bet though even if it reduces my winrate lmao

[coarse flume]

But the price was x2

[dense thunder]

the rewards were actually proportionally higher value

they just reduced the risk and more of the rewards

[subtle fjord]

Wait you could bet 300 gems for a perfect lattice or perfect lattice frag?

[dense thunder]

irrc it was 200 for 2 shards + ld summon

[subtle fjord]

Ah yeah I saw that one

[fast stratus]

Oh snap! Worth it!

[subtle fjord]

Lots of FOMO when the rewards were too good though

[hallow citrus]

i literally don't

im seirous

i dont' fucking play that event

LOL

everytime i touch it

i lose gems

so i stopped doing it

[vivid kettle]

M a f2p and I would prefer a rimocha event to this

[subtle fjord]

We are getting RIlmocha event too so congratulations

This event is an extra one and not part of the rotation

[hallow citrus]

nice, next is gonna eb the fucking kloss one

[heady grail]

i dont get it, i have pullls to hard pitty the next 2 rbgs when i need him badly, and they want me to drop all that and some cash for 1 tofu and 1 old nice 2 have unit? bruh

[subtle fjord]

The tofu is for whales bro

[hallow citrus]

then just don't

tf

[subtle fjord]

Just go for the selector or skip if you already have the 3

[hallow citrus]

sounds like u have everything u have

just... skip then

[subtle fjord]

This is an event that fixes people's accounts who were led astray by CCs (not their fault) and told to pick Rilmocha from selector

[hallow citrus]

[heady grail]

i also picked rimo but got lucky enogh while i hunted the goddam shadow sania
im relay tempted for tsuki and maybe i get her and im out but i just wanted to sate the value of those only "100" points

[subtle fjord]

Yeah but the value of Tsuki/Kloss is pretty big tbh, my point is even f2p with less savings could get these right now and they'd be valuable if lacking Tuski/Kloss

[heady grail]

how about drop a event where all of us get one ssr for free as "thank you for not leaving this burning mess"

[subtle fjord]

Its a pretty good event

[subtle fjord]

Probably Anni/half Anni

[uneven scarab]

the wuwa strat
Let's do it

grovel at my feet devs

give me a tiamat

[vivid kettle]

My point is they should just keep whaling out of events cause events are were f2p gets all the free stuff

[subtle fjord]

Not really, here in ER even whales dont always get all the stuff

This isn't even whaling, you go for 100 selector and dip

[vivid kettle]

Lol

[subtle fjord]

Otherwise if you think f2p need to go to 200

Thats like complaining they put a lattice pack in the shop

[vivid kettle]

I don't even know what the pack shop looks like

[subtle fjord]

They have lattice packs randomly in many of their events

Including this one

[vivid kettle]

I mean that just means it's a bad event if u can't satisfy whales or f2p

[kind osprey]

Same

[subtle fjord]

I'm pretty sure most f2p are happy with this event?! Atleast the ones without one of the 3 units?

[hallow citrus]

Which there are a lot of

[subtle fjord]

Whales are happy they see Lattice, they buy

[hallow citrus]

lol

[subtle fjord]

Exactly lmao

And if they dont want any of the 3, they can always skip

[hallow citrus]

Its a bonus event after all

At the end of the day it’s a net positive to players

Because there’s no real downside

Other than a bit of fomo

Cuz like

Who fking cares if u not missing kloss or lily anyways💀

Like ull be fine without Beyontin, Mia, Celince, etc

Def have the right to be annoyed

And the event def could be better

And improved upon for future iterations

But saying the event is bad is just selfish and delusional lol

[vivid kettle]

Yeah people without the three units it's massive for them

[noble eagle]

E7 summoning is dogshit idc what anybody says. The fact that i cant get the limited summer event units like flan is horrendous and 200 pulls for LD is pathetic.

[hallow citrus]

I mean again I said it can be improved

But u literally cannot say it’s a bad event

It doesn’t intrude on the existing events

And if u want to participate

U still benefit

Just not as much as some people

Keeping in mind

If u don’t benefit

It means ur already lucky

LOL

Cuz that means uve been playing with these units

ALREADY

[noble eagle]

Whoever dooms this event is delusional 100%

[hallow citrus]

Yep

[rotund mulch]

It's a great event

Not just for this game but overall among gachas in this genre

[real needle]

My problem with the event (as a spender) is that it kinda takes a dump on people that already spent and supported the game at launch.

Wouldn't be so bad if pulling an SSR dupe gave bonus wish points or something like that. Luckily I want another Veronika dupe

[noble eagle]

I am a spender too idc

I see lattice

I get it

[tired mango]

100 for the selector is great. Especially for F2P

W devs

[subtle fjord]

There was good feedback that if you have all 3 units, you should get 100 points. And it was from a mod. So hopefully that makes it in the next iteration of the event

[noble eagle]

Actually great idea

[real needle]

Yeah that would fix my issue with it

[topaz canopy]

Think you misinterpreted what I said

[tired mango]

I’ve got all 3 already but might just do some pulls to get 500 reconfig chips 🤣

[subtle fjord]

They announce this event only needs 100 and suddenly, ER gets 1M more

[kind osprey]

Dw I got hated for saying the same thing

[rotund mulch]

I spent 1 million

Wait is that real ?

Is it 2m or 3m

[subtle fjord]

Apparently it increased with more data

So game is actually doing better than I thought

[ember crypt]

It's better but they are losing money on the simple fact the skins are non sense and their events is something I can't comprehend, already wasted the Summer opportunity

So their monetization game needs to step up

[wanton tartan]

wait what

That sucked for them in that case

Cause not being in the top 50 kinda propagated a lot of doomposting and kept a lot of outsiders away from the game

pretty unfortunate

[subtle fjord]

Yup lmao

[craggy phoenix]

AFTER C ANNOUNCEMENT SURELY IT WILL BE #1

[subtle fjord]

You mean after Maid Yeli

[frail dune]

What the yeli

[uneven scarab]

c saved etheria

[fast stratus]

OMG if they actually do Maid and Bikini skin Yeli, Tia, and Fuqiu skins… add another 3-5M revenue instantly!

I guess Kloss and Liliam too for them people with other interest

[uneven scarab]

[fervent iron]

www.smug.af has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[fast stratus]

Mio and Kaz better not get them or they might get EOS lawsuit so fast haha

[uneven scarab]

Mio skin would get Japan to whale harder

[frail yacht]

Its over.....xiada pool party skin dream.is over

[fast stratus]

Xiada! Another good one

[uneven scarab]

What's wrong with Kaz tho?

besides cc trolling

[fast stratus]

Heck I guess pool party Massiah won’t be bad

[subtle fjord]

@grand widget Are we gonna have gender swap tickets, even paid? So many people have bricked accounts and chose male MC

[peak talon]

If I had a hundred spare summons I would totally dupe up Ronny

[uneven scarab]

+100!

I have the male one and HE SUCKS

the girl gets the bikini

[smoky anchor]

just make a petition for swimsuit skins

lets reach 10,000 signatures go

gooners together strong

[hallow citrus]

This is so ironic

First gacha game where being too f2p friendly was their issue

Obviously not the first but u get the point lol

[ember crypt]

What are you're talking about? Read what I have been saying, I said myself that the balance between p2w and f2p is actually good in this game and have been advocating for keeping it accessible to f2p as a spender myself. Hence all my discussion earlier

[sterile eagle]

how come i cant dm you

[ember crypt]

But they need to make money or else there is no game

Simple as that

[hallow citrus]

Do u know the meaning of ironic

[rotund mulch]

He had a crashout

Like me

And closed dms

[ember crypt]

Misread thought you were saying that statement was ironic lol

[craggy phoenix]

adawhale

[hallow citrus]

Haha all good

[smoky anchor]

add me as friend i block dms from non friends

[uneven scarab]

Damn, Ronny privated his 'Wisherbinder is WORSE than we thought' video

did the XD ninjas get him?

[subtle fjord]

Made him look like a fool

[strong oyster]

event sucks lol. even if you don't have these lackluster picks, won't matter if you don't have the lattices to upgrade them. Also, fully expect them to release a overpowered RGB next to screw everybody over

[languid coral]

When doomers get proven wrong

😂

[mortal sandal]

I would like a Tiamat please. Thank you devs. I won't tell anyone if you just put it on my account.

[frail dune]

interesting people are rushing to defend an event released in a predatory way

[tired mango]

You realize that Kloss works with no lattices right?

[craggy phoenix]

And so does tsukiyomi

[tranquil ledge]

who?

[junior storm]

Interesting how people complain about everything in this game, then still play it anyway. If you have all 3 units, then you don't have to do anything. If you are missing one of those 3 units, you have it guaranteed for you at 100 pulls if you want. People acting like these upcoming RGB banners are only up for a week starting tomorrow, when the reality is they will be around until probably the end of August so you can get more pulls. For once, they did something that is solid and people are still throwing a fit.

[frail dune]

if there's nothing to complain about there's nothing to improve

[subtle fjord]

even if you don't have these lackluster picks,

Kloss and Tsukiyo?! Lackluster?!

Best part is these units function decently well without Lattices wtf is wrong with you

[junior storm]

Theres plenty to complain about. Calling this banner predatory, when the good reward is near the beginning and not the end is just ridiculous.

[subtle fjord]

Man this is the braindead takes against this event, are you sure you wanna be team Doomer @glass ether

[frail dune]

you wouldn't if you fished for lilliam last week on standard before using LD pulls

[craggy phoenix]

Complain about champions call

[subtle fjord]

Yup, a few adjustments would have made it better but like, its a great event lmao

[tired mango]

He’s got the discord brainrot

[glass ether]

im team doomer leaning

[frail dune]

any pull event is predatory, and it was released in a predatory way, which was my original point

[subtle fjord]

Ngl that Guild Boss one kinda annoying

[glass ether]

yea esp for new players lol

[subtle fjord]

Gacha is predatory, just quit smh

[glass ether]

or mid game players

[junior storm]

Sounds like a you problem. Why are you fishing for an ML unit in the standard banner to begin with?

[frail dune]

cause i'd have enough to pity the next 2 rgb units, why not go for the chance?

[glass ether]

when i was new if i didnt wanna get kicked from my union i had to quit to get a decent score XD

[frail dune]

that means i'd be able to save the 73 LD pulls i used on Lilliam for the next LD

[reef junco]

Hey I tried the yeli team again but it just feels like u need like insane gear. Everything rolled red etc. So i decided to go the mocha route it should be quite fast too and way lower requirement is this bad?

[craggy phoenix]

Don't give him any ideas

[subtle fjord]

No, technically you just graduate from Mocha once you do have the Yeli gear

[craggy phoenix]

He tried to quit but I convinced him not to cuz his account would sell for 4 dabloons

[subtle fjord]

And reset Mocha for the lattices

[frail dune]

so is any form of leisure that has a risk of addiction

[craggy phoenix]

[frail dune]

no point in arguing absolutes

[reef junco]

Ye, i saw people doing mocha without inferno shell so it must be way easier

[subtle fjord]

Right, so what are you arguing about a predatory event in a predatory game

[craggy phoenix]

That is just not true gambling is not predatory

[subtle fjord]

It always was but they also buffed Mocha so its even easier now

[reef junco]

What is defintion of predatory, isnt predator like smth bad

[craggy phoenix]

Trust me bro have u ever wondered why casinos are so big and why you feel like you can't leave

[frail dune]

is the game predatory? it seems quite generous

[craggy phoenix]

It's the gravitational pull of the MASSIVE amounts of money you'll win

[frail dune]

based on what everyone is saying

[subtle fjord]

But its a gacha. Also, this event is quite generous but people still somehow complain

[frail dune]

but it gives enough pulls

[reef junco]

There are tons of f2p players no, in casino u cant really do that

[frail dune]

however the event was released in a predatory way so it has made the game predatory in that sense

[reef junco]

I still dont understand what is meant by predatory

[frail dune]

this is playing devil's advocate btw, if we all didn't do things against any form of moral compass there'd be no problems in the world

[subtle fjord]

I meaaan, some casinos give out free spending soooo technicallyyyyy. Usually its just at the start though

[frail dune]

we all enjoy leisure for different things, though they may be bad we want to mitigate risk

[subtle fjord]

Have you seen how doomer this community has been, its like playing devil's advocate in hell

[bronze lark]

how many pulls to able to get 100points?

[subtle fjord]

100

[frail dune]

my devil's advocate comment was referring to your "why complain about a predatory event in a predatory game"

[junior storm]

If you are a drinker, even if they water them down, you just play the cheapest thing you can and get your moneys worth in alcohol. So its more like you paid for drinks and entertainment instead.

[reef junco]

I searched up predatory it means seeking to exploit others?

[reef junco]

But with that logic isnt every game predatory?

[frail dune]

that's why there's no point in arguing absolutes

[reef junco]

What is meant by absolutes

[frail dune]

why argue x if everything is x?

[reef junco]

I only know absolute of math

[frail dune]

exactly

idk why people like to extrapolate a perspective to a universal application when in that context it's just meant for that specific situation

[reef junco]

But if the game is fun its mutual right, so the game is not particularly exploiting the players that way

[reef junco]

So much terminology i dont know of

[frail dune]

someone makes an argument, "oh if it's that way, isn't everything related to it also like that?"

[frail dune]

the game itself isn't exploiting players, it's the choices of the devs related to the game that can be predatory

I find it even more funny that people that defend the devs so much are so fast to say "hey, look they're trying and putting in effort!" when the changes they make are in response to criticism which these people try hard to shut down

[frail dune]

@proven zealot @subtle fjord clown emojis but no counterpoints?

[proven zealot]

Yea because you seemingly don’t understand nuance. Top post is dooming while we can admit it might not be a perfect event but it’s heading in the right direction. Don’t respond to me, I don’t care about your opinion thanks

[subtle fjord]

I've been countering you since awhile ago. It's not just effort, it's actually a great event.

Not my fault your dog brain decided to waste RGB pulls on standard fishing for Lilliam

This event literally fixes some people's accounts and lets them progress

[frail dune]

so we just trust leaks from unreliable sources?

[subtle fjord]

The leak was from the Thai client?

[tranquil ledge]

Oooo him. Yeah “good bye bruiser” picks Holden and rahu

[frail dune]

also what would they have lost to not post an announcement a week early?

[frail dune]

ah yes and i'm going to trust random screenshots going around about that

[subtle fjord]

Have you considered asking Thai people

[frail dune]

at least other games have reliable sources

[subtle fjord]

Sure, that's things that can be improved but despite all its flaws, it's still a great event

[frail dune]

where is the thai community?

[subtle fjord]

You want perfection that you miss greatness

[frail dune]

a "great" event sullied by a predatory release

[uneven scarab]

I support this. Earlier heads up would be great

[subtle fjord]

I can atleast accept someone saying the event is only "good" but bad? Nah, dog take

[frail dune]

also not that great, they could've added more RGB's to the selector not just 3

[tranquil ledge]

Profit

[frail dune]

a lot of people stopped spending i don't think this event would convince them to start again

[subtle fjord]

So every time this event reruns we get a new RGB we are missing?

[frail dune]

is this confirmed?

[subtle fjord]

Then this event will only rerun on anni/half anni

[subtle fjord]

I believe it was already said that the RGB units will change each time this event comes

If we have a limited selector like this, we can get this event every 2 months instead of twice a year

Also

[frail dune]

where was this confirmed? I'm inclined to believe it, but how long until the next?

[subtle fjord]

One thing to notice

the event box for selector was gold

There's probably a red one

Saved for anni/half anni I'm guessing

[subtle fjord]

We have no idea til next one

[frail dune]

but this is all speculation, we're only 2 months into the game's life

[subtle fjord]

Try stalking C's posts

[tranquil ledge]

Why u people spamming about this event. WE GOT HORSES TO TRAIN

[subtle fjord]

Exactly and you already want another RGB Selector

This isn't anni/half anni

[sterile eagle]

guys this is a pretty standard summon event

from like any gacha

its not good its not bad its just a summon event

[subtle fjord]

You the type of person who, if we did get an RGB Selector, would ask "Why didn't we get an LD selector"

[frail dune]

i mean with how shitty the standard banner pool is, is that wrong?

[subtle fjord]

It's good because its only 100 summons tbf. I was expecting 300

[frail dune]

not to mention a lot of people did use their selector on units like borgne or rilmocha

[frail dune]

LD selector is crazy

where did I ever say that?

[uneven scarab]

borgne stray

[frail dune]

there is no easy extrapolation from RGB selector to LD selector too idk why you made that point

[subtle fjord]

We already have generous banners that f2p can pity RGBs when they come around though