Why we always need a Reset Event when the balance changes drop.

[rich sonnet]

One of which could be a reset event

[dense radish]

they could.

[obsidian trail]

all they need to do is turn on 5x farming for 2x events

we know they have it from the train event

[dense radish]

:oh yeah

true

[rich sonnet]

They could just do it in general for auto farms

I'm no coder though

[hard root]

Probably also breaks the game or something

But 900 iq idea

Only shows on how confined my mind is

Or maybe i am just to tired because its 5 am

[rich sonnet]

There's a multitude of things that could make the game more enjoyable

Their main reason is that the devs are human too

But stuff like a reset event probably takes them 20 seconds to put back in

Or changing max cap to 5x like shotty said

[hard root]

I could geniunely belive that they didnt think about it

[rich sonnet]

As much as they want the game to be more grindy or catering to the elite they still need to account that everyone else has a job too

Supposedly at least

[obsidian trail]

i work from home and to do everything i usually play from when i start the day

til like an hour after

because of events, rta and farming

[rich sonnet]

Yea

It's insane

I come from lost ark and I think it's a bit much

[grave night]

I think they have a lot of these qol suggestions in the pipeline

[obsidian trail]

i played bdo so ive evolved to just turn my brain off and run in circles

[grave night]

but they're not dropping them in month 2

[rich sonnet]

I woke up at 8am to bus raids

[grave night]

gotta space it out

[rich sonnet]

And I think this game requires too much time

[hard root]

The amount of time you have to invest is insane

It really feels like a main game

[rich sonnet]

I barely even play rta anymore

[grave night]

Adept isn't believing the marathon grindset

[hard root]

I cant even play wow anymore because i have no time

[rich sonnet]

I've just been continuos battle recently

No rta

No phantom theater

[hard root]

I am believing in jack holding back my true potential

[rich sonnet]

As much as I like this game

The communication has been abysmal

[mental jolt]

But c talks everyday

[south sage]

Needs to be a damage nerf, should be a trade off between unkillable and no damage

So 55% less damage taken and done (maybe overkill on the damage done side but ya know what I mean)

[pliant portal]

sure but 90% of what hes saying is the typical "I already talked with the team" "teams already looking at it", no flame obviously.

[mental jolt]

Of course no flame

[pliant portal]

?

[rich sonnet]

Eh I don't agree with the damage nerf I think a speed nerf makes more sense

But perhaps that's my opinion of hearing phreak explain how if tanks didn't deal any dmg u could just ignore them

Too many times over the years

[obsidian trail]

i dont get why bb would need a drawback

Just nerf its mitigation

no need to overcook

[rich sonnet]

That also works

[obsidian trail]

buff rev by 10%. nerf bb by 10%

[mental jolt]

You flame you get banned

[south sage]

They already don’t run speed, they have turn meter buffs everywhere on modules and shells, speed is like their least usefull stat

[pliant portal]

welp good thing I didnt 🙂

[woeful tendon]

Bro I almost fell asleep while watching the weekly pvp showdown

[obsidian trail]

eh for some units they want speed on bb

[rich sonnet]

^

[mental jolt]

How dare you

[obsidian trail]

did you enjoy the nap i gave the viewers

[rich sonnet]

Holden really likes speed

[obsidian trail]

[south sage]

Yea the supports

[woeful tendon]

Click auto come back later

[obsidian trail]

I did

[south sage]

So a damage nerf would only affect your choice on if you want it on a dps or not

[rich sonnet]

It's just too universal of a stat

[obsidian trail]

there was a point when i was fighting maid

i hit auto and went to the bathroom

got a drink

made a sandwich

fight still going

[rich sonnet]

What sandwich

[obsidian trail]

pbj

[rich sonnet]

Wicked

[obsidian trail]

like bruisers are so braindead

[woeful tendon]

Noticed the insta attacks and thought shotty's playing on auto

[obsidian trail]

they need to make them

not braindead again

[rich sonnet]

So what I'm hearing is

We need to buff Holden?

Forwarding this to the team right now u got it shotty

[obsidian trail]

can we make holden base speed 130

[woeful tendon]

What? Turn BB into 8 piece gear? Got it!

[obsidian trail]

just asking for a friend

[rich sonnet]

Why stop there

Make it 230

[obsidian trail]

actually that would put me at 290 speed

[rich sonnet]

[obsidian trail]

can we actually make it 230

so i can outspeed those boosters

and reset them

realistically

if the devs got any feedback from top players rn

the game would be in a much better place

but they dont wanna do that

[rich sonnet]

Real talk I really hope this game succeeds, I just wish the devs would hire someone to just sit in discord all day and jot notes

[woeful tendon]

Even in fearless arena, some matches get time out due to bruiser vs bruiser

[obsidian trail]

they could just make a discord for top players and content creators

like other games do

for feedback and news

make them sign an nda

[rich sonnet]

I think that's a little much

[obsidian trail]

not at all

ive done it for other games

[rich sonnet]

I suppose so but it often creates a sense of elitism

[obsidian trail]

its legit free to make a discord

theres a leaderboard theres already elitism

[rich sonnet]

Not wrong

[obsidian trail]

i have gold border in game

im better at pvp than you if you dont

[rich sonnet]

But taking the advice of newer players isn't exactly bad

Issues arise when only balancing around the top

[obsidian trail]

thats why you invite the content creators to say some points that they hear from their communities

they meet the highest diversity of players

usually

[rich sonnet]

I suppose that's true

[obsidian trail]

like ive said before im well aware my perspective is shaped from being a tourney/high RTA player

but im not stupid enough to not admit that or try and see it from the casual or lower rank pov

[woeful tendon]

I don't understand who they want to cater to, they nerfed rev for the casuals/low mid rank players, but the endgame farms need knowledge checks and hardcore team building

[rich sonnet]

That's good

[obsidian trail]

that last sentence didnt make a whole lot of sense but its late

you get the idea

[rich sonnet]

I've played league for too long I suppose

So tired of this "you're under challenger ur opinion doesn't matter" shtick

[obsidian trail]

TLDR i know more about the game than you

that doesnt make me right

about things that arent specifically about game mechanics

[rich sonnet]

That's a good way to look at a community

Either way I'm not against your idea of the discord server

[obsidian trail]

most of the top players ive talked to all basically share the same ideas in some capacity

[rich sonnet]

Infact id encourage it cuz it can't be worse than the communication now

They'd have to grab all the top players, and actively do the opposite of what they say

[obsidian trail]

most top players are like nerf PvE, nerf holden, nerf kazuyo, buff rev a bit, nerf bb a bit

[pliant portal]

that would be the best idea, we have the same in tft

[obsidian trail]

ya

[rich sonnet]

Oh I'm not in it

I don't join tft stuff

I took one look at r/competitive tft and decided the discord couldn't be much better

[pliant portal]

reddit is a joke

if it comes to competetive environment

[rich sonnet]

Yea I've read some ridiculous shit on there

[pliant portal]

no matter what game tbh

[rich sonnet]

One guy who was like low master was like perma saying

[obsidian trail]

ill be honest

[rich sonnet]

Never drop below 30 gold

[obsidian trail]

im surprised i didnt get put on reddit

[rich sonnet]

No matter the situation

[pliant portal]

wdym by that

[obsidian trail]

i thought after that last match id get put on the etheria reddit

showing they need to nerf bruisers

[rich sonnet]

How many games have you played on set 15 so far

[obsidian trail]

which team do you think should have won and how long do you think this match took

[pliant portal]

oh like 6 I think, didnt have that much time this week

[rich sonnet]

Oh was this the 100+ turn match

[obsidian trail]

this was one of 2 100+ turn matches

[rich sonnet]

[obsidian trail]

i played

in the tourney

[pliant portal]

lmaooo 💀

atleast veronika S2 does some dmg

[obsidian trail]

bruisers are too op

healer stall too op

etheria effect takes too long to ramp

etc

[pliant portal]

imagine doing +100 turns manual 💀

[rich sonnet]

💀

Either way

As long as the communication between the community and the devs are back up I honestly think the game will be fine

But until then it's just going to lose people everyday

[pliant portal]

but its just terrible

imma be honest the only communication we have is C comming in various threads saying the team is looking at xyz, thats all. Not blaming him, he prolly not allowed to talk more than that.

anyways, shouldnt there be a new hypertalk or dev + cc talk we had a while ago?

[obsidian trail]

that would have been nice to announce Season 1

[pliant portal]

I thought they changed their sentiment... sigh

[obsidian trail]

and talk about season 0

but hey

[rich sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384230665461170346/1401330482196779151/Screenshot_20250801-133246.png?ex=688fe236&is=688e90b6&hm=e369688fcf1a62d750e732b3ce969f33dc25b65dd253d85e30bf479e708e6b76&

No I don't use light mode this a someone else's ss

[grave night]

my gacha experience is limited, but do gacha companies really talk to players regularly? They're usually radio silent until China riots

[rich sonnet]

I'm not a psychopath

[rich sonnet]

If this game was out in china u can bet they would've stormed HQ by now

They take mobile games incredibly seriously

[grave night]

don't sleep on Korean bros and their protest trucks

[pliant portal]

wrong attempt. No, they usually do not. That doesnt say tho, they should do the same. Its a bad behavior

[rich sonnet]

Someone planned to drive a truck through smilegate hq

[grave night]

terrifying for anybody working there ngl. At any moment, some whacko can physically get to you

[rich sonnet]

Eh many gacha games aren't live service with rta

[grave night]

[pliant portal]

you dont need to have pvp rta to have bad gacha games

[grave night]

damn, bro must've been like a 100k deep to be that mad

[rich sonnet]

No I meant as in low communication

Games like wuwa genshin and hsr don't need good communication with the community

[lofty condor]

And they even shouldn't

[rich sonnet]

Unless it's regarding difficulty in new content

But a game like etheria where the live service combat is the main draw

[pliant portal]

wuwa still has tho, they change regulary things on players feedback, another way of communication even tho they not talking to players or ccs individual

[rich sonnet]

Maintaining communication with the community and understanding what is annoying them off is crucial

[rich sonnet]

Oh I don't mean they CANT have good comms

Wuwa is great with feedback

It's just

They don't need to

[grave night]

they take the feedback submitted but you're rarely seeing an exec down in the trenches talking with the community

[pliant portal]

but whats the point then making games when you dont need/want to listen to your consumers feedback? It just bricks longterm no

[grave night]

Don't get it twisted, I'm on team communication

[rich sonnet]

That's the exact point I'm trying to bring

[grave night]

I just think some people are being unrealistic with how much they need to talk to us

[lofty condor]

+100

[pliant portal]

true

[rich sonnet]

I can understand I'm coming off as over demanding

But right now we have not heard a single thing from the devs ever since rta s1 annoucement

[pliant portal]

but a monthly hypertalk or dev + cc talk shouldnt be an unrealstic amount

imo ofc

[rich sonnet]

Oh wait nvm

[grave night]

they haven't even had a Monday meeting yet
Hold for a bit and if it looks like they're not saying anything, we go for the throat

[rich sonnet]

We got a ews post

[grave night]

I'm on board

[rich sonnet]

Holy cinema

[rich sonnet]

I suppose so

[grave night]

last hypertalk caused such a shitstorm loool.
They better cook on the next one for the community's sake.

[rich sonnet]

Oh and smug

The truck thing

It wasn't just one guy

They had like

A battalion

[grave night]

[rich sonnet]

[grave night]

HUH

[rich sonnet]

Yea

[grave night]

nahhh what did smilegate do???

[rich sonnet]

Alot of questionable changes

In 1 patch

No compensation

The Koreans were not happy

[grave night]

if Korean bros can take down a government body, I'd rather not piss them off

[rich sonnet]

But yea the Asian community is not to be trifled with when it comes to games

These guys have died playing video games

[grave night]

I remember when nikke had their truck drama a while back

[rich sonnet]

What was this about

[pliant portal]

oh actually we should get the next hypertalk in a couple of days its been a month

[rich sonnet]

Did the new character have too many clothes on or something

Or did the new character not come with physics

[grave night]

nah, it was for the treasure system

you had to have max dupe characters

[rich sonnet]

Ohhhh

[pliant portal]

just wait when ER gets released in china and majority aint able to clear endgame content 💀

[grave night]

honestly, they managed to control the community on this by just making massive tits that jump around and jiggle

the cake was stiff as concrete tho

they've been getting back to form since stellar blade collab

[rich sonnet]

Worse yet, theres nothing to whale for

[pliant portal]

kinda agree, the skin situation makes me more curios tho

[grave night]

leaving money on the table with recolours

[rich sonnet]

Sometimes I'm ok with chromas

[grave night]

Liliam gets a pass ngl. The cop blue just works

[rich sonnet]

But like could they get someone to actually pick a good colour scheme

Like who gave the pass on the rilmocha one

[pliant portal]

sure when a chroma costs you like 200 gems, but not on a 10€ pricetag like cmon 💀

[rich sonnet]

And the fuqiu one

I need them locked up

[grave night]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-laugh-lol-hold-in-laugh-gif-17343970

rat didn't deserve that

[rich sonnet]

The Lian one is fine

And so is liliam

But God some of the recolours are

[grave night]

blonde Grey slaps

and I'm mixed on valerian's

the base is too good

[pallid seal]

the blonde puke yellow shade in valerians icon ruins it. seeing it pmo

[hard root]

i personally like the valerian one xD

[left oar]

I personally like ||ur jacket||

[pallid seal]

i just dont get why they couldn't get the color right. doesnt look the same as the model and also again has a color that reminds me of bodily waste

the model itself isn't bad, just the icon, but the original blue is best. most of the recolors are worse than the base skin. feels like they didn't really try to come up with a good color pallet for most of them. just pumped something out to tell their boss its done.

[thin pecan]

It was giving homeless vibes

[hard root]

Bro the rilmocha, lowkey fire with that homeless vibe xD

[grave night]

Tiamat skin leak

[obsidian trail]

looks like fuqiu

[next cipher]

Does epic 7 and other pvp game give reset every season patch? Is this a typical thing?

[woeful tendon]

In e7 they only give reset when a unit gets nerfed, usually along with a unit selector

[lime furnace]

isnt this agatha skin from sword of convallaria

[grave night]

Yup

[slate portal]

E7 hasn’t nerfed anything since the first year and it’s set a not great precedent tbh

[quaint flame]

@hard root They already told us that balances are never done during the season and only when the season is closed, i wouldn't expect any change to bloodbath or any buff or nerf whatsoever. If leaks are true we should expect a reset event announcement by tomorrow(because they will announce blessing galore 5 days before it happens , and usually they tell the community about other events at the same time) and if it is not announced tmr it is unlikely to happen in the near future. Now that being said, i really don't think they will go back to reconsider a reset event unless threatened with the possibility of a massive playerbase loss therefore $$$ loss, at that point is gonna be "pick your poison" scenario. The sad truth so far if you think about it, is that they still go positive with their income by NOT give any reset event and for any company something like this that would impact directly on their monthly balance means everything. To give a reset event for them, means that a good part of the whales is not gonna buy the weekly lattice (or clear the shop) for at least few weeks so there you have the reason why is unlikely to happen. I hope i am wrong but this is the sad truth behind any company and this is the base for any or almost every decision they take and it is also easy to understand. I want a reset event aswell so please XD surprise me.

[sick wadi]

Have you seen how much the revenue has tanked?

I think they have to address the issues and if not, it's going to be really bad

[quaint flame]

no i am not aware of how much, i am just sayin' that can be the only reason to give a reset event to speak "their language" How much is it? If numbers are bad they might reconsider. Also there is no way to assume if it is because a no reset event or due to other factors , that is something that will never be public

[sick wadi]

Lemme scroll and find it

@quaint flame

[quaint flame]

so does this means they are -5000000 compared to 1 month ago?

[sick wadi]

Yeah

Not exact numbers put it shows massive drop

[quaint flame]

good then surely part of those 5kkk is related to no reset i would like to know how much exactly to make a statement of how likely is for a reset to happen

i mean "good" just for the purpose, ofc not good

[obsidian trail]

you do need to take this with a grain of salt. This is only mobile purchases when a lot of the players i know play on PC

Its still a terrible trend but the amount is probably a lot higher

[sick wadi]

Yeah for sure you do, just showing the trend

[obsidian trail]

[sick wadi]

I'm still sad they buffed holden and my borgne is just sitting there crying

[obsidian trail]

borgne will never be meta so long as bloodbath is meta

[dense radish]

Yep but its actually not that bad. the people that are still left are spending the same as they were as the money drop off is equal to the playerbase drop off.

[honest forge]

I would like to just +1 this post

very well said @hard root

[pliant portal]

also, I think those are also only app store/android store purchases. (im not sure tho but I heared it a lot)

[grave night]

you would be correct

[obsidian trail]

regardless still not a good trend

if mobile purchases go down its safe to say PC probably would follow

[grave night]

fair enough. The current trend isn't reassuring, but also too early to start ringing the EOS bell.
Hopefully they start buckling down and course correcting.

[sick wadi]

Best we can give is a holden buff and summon bait event

[grave night]

I sure wouldn't be betting everything on China saving us

[obsidian trail]

I mean everyone saying EOS is just dumb

Its a gacha release

they NEVER go well

[grave night]

Wuwa launch was certainly a thing

community seems to have memoryholed it, but damn. It was controversy after controversy

[sick wadi]

This is true but something tells me these devs don't have it in them to save this game

But I could be wrong ofc

Wuwa was a shit launch but they were communicating and offering compensation very quickly

[grave night]

yeah, they even had to give out a free SSR to keep people playing

Jack, give me another selector and I'll shill this game for a week

[pliant portal]

actually them forcing us to pull on perma is kinda bad no? Atleast for those who already own the chars they want, they basically pull for dupes idk about that

[grave night]

good for dupe fishing I suppose

[pliant portal]

sounds terrible to me, you would rather traget your dupes by buying them through the anima shop. Imagine you get useless support dupes, and wont have anymore pulls for upcomming rbg banner again

[grave night]

haunted by all my lingluo dupes

those could've been a tiamat smh smh

[grave night]

I really need to see how this thing works. The timing is just awkward (or sinister depending on how you look at it)
A week into Liliam but before the next RGB

[obsidian trail]

gooner skins would save etheria

[pliant portal]

guess why they chose this timing to sell some packs

[obsidian trail]

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[grave night]

[pliant portal]

dont need to be gooner skins, just some quality detailed skins would work aswell

cant get any worse than those scam chromas

[weak geyser]

It’s actually quite funny how they time the summon event to after everyone summoned

Well played Jack

[pliant portal]

actually toxic behavior

im glad I was already saving up

[quaint flame]

that was leaked before liliam banner though

[weak geyser]

I saved up

but people dont pay attention to leaks

there was no official news either

[pliant portal]

how does this make things any better prolly 5% of playerbase are here on this dc active

[weak geyser]

so

[quaint flame]

well i have only one world for you

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[earnest flume]

aurae4921 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[quaint flame]

and that comes with the warning

[pallid seal]

most people dont see leaks, and most of the people who saw the leak probably didnt believe it and didn't factor it into their decisions

i stopped pulling when I saw it but I doubt I'm the norm

[weak geyser]

same

and even then I only have 63 pulls

[pallid seal]

im right around that

[pliant portal]

yup having 60 aswell

[weak geyser]

I imagine its gonna be 200 to complete the event

[sick wadi]

Then new rgb drops after

the event is whale bait

Or f2p bait so they blow their summons

[pallid seal]

banner is long enough to just get the amount you need anyway

[pliant portal]

if a selector is involved pretty sure its gonna be 300+, 200 is way too easy to achieve, they gotte sell their new packs somehow

[pallid seal]

set too high and they might piss too many people off idk

[weak geyser]

You think these devs care?

[pallid seal]

it's only a week long with hardly any heads up

[pallid seal]

fair

[sick wadi]

the fact they haven't responded to the gvg issue is insane

[pallid seal]

most players have probably already used their ember trek pulls

[weak geyser]

they responded with their silence of course

[sick wadi]

reset event or whatever, fine im over it but the gvg is something that needs some form of response

[pallid seal]

[Law of Silence]

[weak geyser]

"Our silence means something!" - Anita's husband 2025

[pliant portal]

welp they gotta drop their hypertalk soonish

gonna be

[hard root]

I very much appreciate it, i just hope we can bring it somehow to their attention

[daring harbor]

Thanks a lot for writing this post, I have talk about this in youtube as well, and in other posts... I believe reset events should come more frequently, in this game experimenting is key and we currently don't have that.

Furthermore, when balance changes like you mentioned are in play, then we for sure need a reset event so that we can decide if we want to change our gameplay or not.

Currently there is no way to pivot our strategy, we are just stuck with our previous choices, which feels sad

[hard root]

I appreciate it, maybe we as a community can achieve something great here

[pliant portal]

crazy I might be one of the few people who are against reset events, even though I think 1 free reset should be fine after every rta season. But a whole reset event like we had in the past is way too much imo

[honest isle]

I agree. Letting me reset Rilmocha is something great.

[pliant portal]

why the fk are you promoting your own video in a feedback channel which topic isnt even fitting? kinda cringe ngl

[light heath]

cause a clown

[pliant portal]

@hollow ferry isnt that tos?

[cyan shuttle]

i watched it

it's 10 minutes of hurr durr perfect lattice hurr durr f2p no summons for event hurr durr broken economy

[hard root]

There it is, hail Chris

Or whoever deleted it thanks.

[daring harbor]

No probs, I did it, while I thought it was related I appreciate it doesn’t resonate

[pliant portal]

should have read the rules

actually no need to read rules, its common sense but w/e

[hard root]

Yeah its fine if you tell us that you have the content on your Youtube, i personally dont mind as long as you dont post it.

Because then we have to make the active afford of looking you up because we are interested

But posting it in a feedback thread, especially when nobody asks for it is kinda sus.

[pliant portal]

who is "we"? no im not

[hard root]

I mean i am generalizing

[pliant portal]

but w/e lets move on, he obviously just wanted to promote himself, if you read his last message

[cyan shuttle]

it fits in other threads tbf just not relevant to this one

[pliant portal]

not only its not fitting, you shouldnt advertise yourself anyways here. Theres literally a section in rules for it. I bet he didnt ask for perm so yea

[daring harbor]

No, I didn’t do it to promote myself, I was criticising the new Wishbinder event because is far from what we need.

We need: A reset event.
And instead we get: more perfect lattices behind a paywall

And I saw these 2 things have something in common, which is that they aren’t listening to the community, and they are bringing more FOMO and predatory tactics

But while I thought one thing, I learnt many disliked the idea of how I was approaching my comment, so I removed it to stay focus on the topic and not to draw attention somewhere else

Anyhow, we can definitely move on, just wanted to clarify

[pliant portal]

anyways, the way he did it was cringe but what ever

[pliant portal]

yes, you did to promote yourself

[pliant portal]

first you introduced that you own a yt channel where you breakdown the topic, afterwards you did post your video for others to check it out. Like cmon why are you defending just admit you made a mistake and move on like what

[daring harbor]

I can see there was a mistake from my side, that’s why I removed the post

[sick wadi]

Well, every single issue was ignored, very nice

[hard root]

Nahh its to early to tell i think

Also very excited for the new hypertalk

[light heath]

When

[cyan shuttle]

is this cope or what

[grave night]

it's hope

[pliant portal]

tell the date C

[dusty stream]

I'm inventing a third, new thing called chope

[hasty jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk2077-keanu-we-have-a-city-to-burn-handsome-shades-off-gif-16336796

chyeah

[sick wadi]

[pallid seal]

[inner wing]

Hyperbalk where they balk at all the player feedback and just buff Holden again

[trail flame]

Y'all need to create drama first so this thread gets more comments and dev will finally read

[hard root]

I smell soon

[cyan shuttle]

HYPERTALK 4 FT ADEPT

he recorded already

[hard root]

I announce myself upcomming reset event

[jolly lava]

"Hope" aka "cope"

[shrewd zenith]

soooo do you guys think we will get one...

[sick wadi]

Maybe like 20% chance we do

Not very hopeful

[weak geyser]

.020%*

[sick wadi]

😭

[jolly lava]

Yes
We only need 15k more players to quit

[sick wadi]

if the staff is actually passing on the feedback, we might. I also see a lot of CCs who want one so there's that too

[jolly lava]

I can tell youre very young, foolish and inexperienced at this coping game

The devs do not listen to reason nor demand

[true knoll]

Blaze the cope veteran

[jolly lava]

They act on desperation

[weak geyser]

Probably not since it seems like the dev team is a democracy and Jack has no power at all despite him being the lead

[true knoll]

they act on RNG

have to do a skill check first before they act

[sick wadi]

Blaze earned a purple heart in the cope war of 1942

[true knoll]

[jolly lava]

The dice still hasn't rolled on 1 enough times for them to decide it's time to improve the games
So just maintain your marathon and keep it pushing

[true knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/snail-traffic-crawl-disturbing-gif-3558402

the marathon

[sonic heart]

i have just one issue with your opening post, The triangle should be Tank counters Cleave, CC counters Tanks and Cleave counters CC so tanks are doin what they suppose to do now otherwise Cleave would have no Counter if we follow your mindset that Cleave should be able to OneRota your Tank team

[weak geyser]

Cc vs cleave is a speed match up.

[sonic heart]

i didnt talk that the triangle works perfectly right now, because speed is such a high factor

i just said it supposed to be like that

[jolly lava]

Why is bro trying to dictate what a meta should be

[weak geyser]

hes not

[sonic heart]

its simple balance, every thing has to have a counter

otherwise balance is broken

[jolly lava]

Trying to find a perfect balance in a pvp gacha game is rookie mistake #1

[sonic heart]

they want to be a competietive game, so they have to get theyr balance right

[hollow ferry]

working on delivering good feedback about meta

[jolly lava]

The game has over 50 units with banned units being a thing

[hollow ferry]

dont sweat it too much we'll stabilize soon

[jolly lava]

Your vision is unrealistic

[jolly lava]

Define this "soon" for me pls

[sonic heart]

the core balance has to be like it otherwise it will be hard to balance new units, idk when u want to be a competetive game then u have to get an triangle somewhat as core balance, so counterpicking the enemy just works, my vision is not unrealistic, they almost have it that way CC is just a bit to strong because of speed to get counterd by Cleave there will always be a speed game they have to play

otherwise the balance is already how it should be imo

[jolly lava]

Again
This is an rta game where you cant copy your opponent
Your vision is asking for a minimum of 15+ permanent meta units that hold relevance depending on their match ups.
This game being first come first serve will not allow your vision to come to fruition
Maybe in a new arena mode but not in the currency rta mode

Adept is typing

-69 braincells incoming

[sick wadi]

@hollow ferry Even content creators are calling for the reset event man 😭

[jolly lava]

I thought a reser event was to come after the balance path but they somehow even fumbled that

[sick wadi]

Also the top players and then the majority of the players who care about the game on here are also asking for it

How many more people need to ask 😭

[jolly lava]

When 15% of that population leave we'll have a chance of getting what we rightfully deserve

Adept i know you aint even typing a paragraph right now so send it already

[sick wadi]

As blaze said, we were told we would get one if something was nerfed at the end of the season.. And the devs gutted a literal entire playstyle, not just one unit nerf even.. so much investment wasted

Saddest thing is, c is the only one in any of these threads

[jolly lava]

Fight for what you deserve

[sick wadi]

So shout out to c for atleast reading what we type here

[hard root]

Wow, i am unbelievably grateful that my Feedback Thread reached at least one of the community managers. That's already a huge win in my book. However that was only possible because we as a collective made enough of a sound to be heard 🙂

P.S.: I can't exactly imagine on how hard it is to be a community manager, especially in this discord server. However i just wanted to let you know, that i am very thankful for all your work and i am sure that there are a lot more who share the same opinion. Keep it up, but dont overwork and take a break to sip a coffee

[jolly lava]

Holy yapping

@hollow ferry ⁉️

[sick wadi]

Yeah reset event isn't even on this weeks topics.

This is the last time I'll talk about it as it is obviously not even a consideration, unlucky guys

[obsidian trail]

I mean reset events arent important at this point

If they adjust the pvp meta and revert buffs that would spark a reset event anyways

So hope for that

[sick wadi]

Yeah, much more important topics

[light heath]

shotty

dm me your suggestions for pvp meta

[obsidian trail]

you want exacts

[light heath]

will forward a detailed report to christian before he talks with jack

[obsidian trail]

or like general details

[light heath]

yeah christian will have a talk with jack

[obsidian trail]

because i have exacts

[light heath]

about meta

and what to do

[obsidian trail]

kk

[light heath]

so as detailed as possible

[obsidian trail]

opening notepad rn

[quaint flame]

when is the hypertalk happening exactly? Where can i see it?

[jolly lava]

"Soon" my friend
Soon

[quaint flame]

Soon tm

[obsidian trail]

sent

[grave night]

soon™

[quaint flame]

they didn't announce anything about reset to go along with upcoming event, you guys think they will in the hypertalk?

is there still hope for this?

[weak geyser]

nope

they arent gonna do a reset

[quaint flame]

yeah that's what i thought

[obsidian trail]

not gonna leak but i typed a shit ton

[grave night]

I appreciate your contributions to making etheria a better game

[obsidian trail]

to anyone thinking im bias towards bruisers

the first line is bloodbath nerf

[weak geyser]

ladies and gentleman. We got him to leak the first line

[grave night]

I wouldn't mind you being a lil biased

[obsidian trail]

thats all you will get

🤐

[sick wadi]

got em

[obsidian trail]

because if this actually reaches the devs

[weak geyser]

for now

[hard root]

He said he will also talk about continuous farming with jack, can you mention that they could also push a x5 speed up for farming to counter the bad feeling of having to no life the x2 event on a weekend ? That was one of the main reasons on why they dont want a x2 event so often. I think Shotty came up with that, sounds like a good idea.

[obsidian trail]

i dont want to promote anything or give false hope

because i dont know what they would listen to

[sick wadi]

Having an uncapped x2 is crazy in the first place lol

[jolly lava]

"Hope"
The most popular word in this server lol

[daring harbor]

Respectfully disagree.

While I do think is not the key core problem, at the same time reset event is something they already have develop, it comes at 0 developer cost, and it will throw a candy to the community.

Furthermore, reset event is key in an economy like this, where we need at least a bandage to correct our mistakes, a way to smooth our sails and encourage us to try new units in the spirit of experimentation, it’s a beacon of hope that devs are listening while they work on the bigger problems.

Reset event is a step in stone towards a healthier game, and if the identity of the game is pvp, then in my opinion reset events should come after every season at least, to bring experimentation at the core front of the identity of the game.

It doesn’t bring anything negative, only positives IMO

[pallid seal]

well it does bring a negative, huge hit to their income 😂 yellow tofu are the most expensive things in the real money store.

bare minimum $16 USD for 1/12 of the skillups you need for one character

most are $30-$50 each I think

[daring harbor]

There is no evidence those are related IMO.

I’m talking by my experience at least, I’m a whale, so I have put more than 1.5k in the game and I’d be happy spending way more if there was a reset event.

A different argument could be:

since players feel they can fix their mistakes and experiment, they are encouraged to stay longer in the game so at some point they will buy packs / red crystals / lattice for those remaining skills they are missing

[weak geyser]

the thought process would be to keep the customer happy so they stay and have the potential to spend more in the future than have them leave and you get nothing anyways

but ngl I doubt the reset event would fix anything

the better fix would be to fix the meta so you dont need a reset to begin with

[daring harbor]

As a way to solve both our arguments, the dev team could run a survey asking for the “one” thing that players need.

Most people quite likely would say economy, I guess.

Then they could have a different question “rate these topics in the order of relevance to you” so that they could get a bigger sample size, in that question they could bring the topic of reset events

I mean there are ways around this to get more data…

[daring harbor]

Agreed. To fix the meta / economy. Which for chips at least seems to be a point of discussion

I think the game is going to be fantastic in 3 months to be fair

[pallid seal]

I'd say they're enough to be related that the devs could be reluctant to do what we want here. Both arguments have weight, but if you know you can wait until the end of a pvp season and swap lettuce to a shiny new character, you're much less likely to drop some money to try and finish off their abilities.

[pallid seal]

you're coming at this from a customer perspective and they're coming at it from a seller perspective. but I don't see anyone IRL handing out free products that are in extremely high demand in order to get them to spend money on lower demand items. I want the reset event but this feels like we're in the bargaining stage of grief at our choices with lattice.

My overall guess is that the current thought process at XD is that they want to give us any other reason possible for retention besides essentially +12 free tofus a month and then hope to make money on the tofus in store that way. It's gambling the lost paying players vs the lost income from people buying fewer tofus.

[weak geyser]

crk did it. wuwa did it so im not really sure what you mean

[pallid seal]

My understanding from reading others comparing this game and others is that the resources from resetting would have more value due to the way the game feeds summons vs resources to us. I don't know the specifics of those games and how character power works in them.

in dislyte it's like the opposite strategy, ability level ups go to supports and dupes make or break the characters. it'd be like if yeli needed full dupes instead of max lattice.

[daring harbor]

I see what you mean. I can see how at the surface level a “reset” event is a a way to get +12 lattices for free, but if we look deeper we’ll soon find out that we still need more than 20 units for both PvP and PvE. So there isn’t really a free lunch IMO, it’s a swap. We lose some power in one place to have power in a different place.

Many games have ways to reset talent trees etc, now let’s say that money was really the problem, if that’s the case: I can tell you for me this is so important that I’d be willing to pay 5 to 90 USD for each reset (perhaps it could grow exponentially in price, starting at 5$, then 10$, then 15$, etc…). Probably sounds crazy, right?? But I’m being serious, experimentation is really important to me, and I wanna try units to their full potential and then decide which modules to invest in, shells, etc

In this particular season, with the current changes to Rev meta, I feel many people invested heavily into one direction, and now is very hard to pivot into a new one. So yeah, Reset is just a bandage, the economy is what needs fixing, but I feel is a good bandage to have

[pallid seal]

I agree with a reset being good, i was really hoping for one, just started as a joke about them seeing dollar signs and then expanding from there. I think the reset event you got on your account should not have timed out. I started the game on vacation, cause my trip started the day of release, and it was gone by the time I really got home to truly play. which is pretty lame.

I just think they've anchored so hard on tofus being the big money driver, intentionally or unintentionally, and it's probably important to recognize why they would be reticent to give us one on a regular basis.

*not so we can give up but so we can factor the context into the dialogue

[daring harbor]

Yeah yeah, I can understand their point of view, I just have different solutions for them to explore other avenues for monetisation.

Like better skins for example! Or stamina packs? How come we don’t have a way already to pay 5$ and get 5 lattice fragments + 2 stamina modules?

Also fullyyyy agree with you that the reset events shouldn’t have timed out. It should be a token that you activate and then that’s it: you have 7 days to reset units.

Similar to the double drop event, it should be a token so that we can use it in our own terms. Like many games do with double xp, etc

[pallid seal]

the skins really pmo, League of Legends pays their bills and started new projects (TFT LOR Arcane) with basically just skin sales. this game has interesting characters they could probably just throw out a goon skin once a month and give us lattice for free at that point.

[grave night]

goon nation approves

[pallid seal]

throw up a Pool Party Rosa skin with a Rosa banner, turn a $1bn profit in <21 days

add in a $99 item that just maxes her skills out too. sheeeeesh XD if you're hiring a remote brainstormer hmu I'll send my resume in.

I know what the people want.

[daring harbor]

Based

[pallid seal]

I was watching what AuronJ had to say about the summon event and he talked briefly about your reply to the tweet announcement. idk if you saw lol

[cyan jay]

I still haven't gotten a revelation with furyedge for 1 week. Im only looking for one. Just one.

[daring harbor]

HAHAHA lolmao I haven’t watched it let me see if he understood my sarcasm…

Ah actually agree with his takes! Thanks for sharing The Rengo buff was indeed sarcasm but the rest is really valid, communication would have helped a ton

[pallid seal]

literally started farming inf hoyan last night and got this

idk if it's peak but I'm not mad.

[inner wing]

Ehem ehem.

RECOLORS ARE FINE

[inner wing]

We only have 15k players left on Global

[inner wing]

Not even that

[pallid seal]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

[inner wing]

Oh this makes sense

[weak geyser]

Caught in 4k 1080p

Retina display

Higher definition

[inner wing]

This is out of context!

[grave night]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-vocaloid-hatsune-hatsunemiku-mikuhatsune-gif-15486489139135186020

[inner wing]

Please support https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1399480961208684644

[weak geyser]

No it’s from a very reliable source

[jolly lava]

What about the over 500k downloads????

[jolly lava]

2 millions is for just July?

[inner wing]

Yup

[jolly lava]

It's over a million so it's fine ig but still a huge disappointment

[north field]

I disagree with this thread. Let players suffer. Who cares about the games health or allowing players to explore ideas and be creative???
Fuck that. Let the world burn. Let it EoS

[sick wadi]

Holy based

[daring harbor]

Actually based

[jolly lava]

@cyan shuttle why did you clown him?
What he said aligns with your beliefs

[light thicket]

Why dont they put Resets in Store 300-500 Crystal each and done everyones happy

[cyan shuttle]

“Let it eos”

[jolly lava]

Except the last part ofc

[cyan shuttle]

I’m at the gym clown will have to do

[north field]

bros never heard of hyperboles

[cyan shuttle]

If he’s being ironic I retract my clown

Blaze can have one just in case

[daring harbor]

I would easily pay that

[rich sonnet]

Many people would

Anything to get my lattices off massiah

[pliant portal]

First, it will cost dev something cuz reset events mean they sell less lattice packs. Since you can go and reset every rta season towards current meta.

Secondly, the company is not responsible for your bad investments or as you said „our mistakes“. If they do scummy nerfs sure you can blame them but making bad invetsments is a you problem.

Even tho im heavily against reset events I appreciate 1 free resest every rta season.

On the other habd, asking for a full reset event like we had before fore every rta season is way to much and I highly doubt its anywhere healthy for the game. In fact, im pretty sure it makes things worse habding out so many frequent resets. This game aint wuwa and genshin or candy shop where you can throw your lattice how you want and expect to succeed in top lvls its never like this in pvp games and never will be.

[north field]

if u think I ain't buying a PLattice cause I get maybe like 3-5 resets every 2 months you're actually mentally ill

[jolly lava]

Put the phone down mate

[cyan shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/chappelles-show-dave-chappelle-chappelles-tyrone-tyrone-biggums-gif-4958017

[rich sonnet]

I can agree with you in the idea of them selling less packs

But this is a sinking ship

[north field]

Star Savior waiting room*

[rich sonnet]

U might as well patch up what you can to keep player retention

[hard sigil]

Id purchase lattices more if I knew there was one reset per season

[sick wadi]

Pretty much 💀

[north field]

Nope games over

It's a GG

this is just filler till new games

Here comes mr BB is bad

(I'm being toxic for fun now)

[lofty inlet]

every gacha is filler. Star Savior? You mean Endfield waiting room? Endfield? You mean Ananta waiting room?

[sick wadi]

I still believe they would make more money with reset events, if people could build every new character then they would be more inclined to swipe no?

[grave night]

They drained the hope from Mr infrequent streamer

[sick wadi]

But of course I don't know their income sources

[pliant portal]

Why wasting ur time in feeback channels then if you have this ill mentality? @north field

[north field]

everything is filler until Azur Promilia lets not kid ourselves

[sick wadi]

Just makes sense to me

[lofty inlet]

Azur Flopmilia is not a waiting room it's a bus stop

[daring harbor]

This

[pliant portal]

You have to hate urself lmao

[grave night]

nooooo, don't fall for the bait

[north field]

[pliant portal]

Pretty sure hes dead serious and not ragebaiting

[jolly lava]

STAR SAVIOR ON BLAZE'S NUTS WE WILL BE THERE

[grave night]

the hyperbole is rage baiting, but it's clear he's not satisfied with the game atm

Kyoya gonna do 3 vids on star saviour, a couple streams then vanish again

[north field]

I'm dead serious that if you think resets gonna mean ppl stop buying Plattice you should go see a doctor cause it must be a tumor in the brain 💀

[sick wadi]

I stopped spending ages ago, until they prove they value our feedback (they don't)

[pliant portal]

Have I said stop? Ive said less, should visit 3rd grade again your lacking common reading skills

Legit clown

[sick wadi]

@daring harbor I guess they declined the refund btw?

[north field]

but I dont think a lack of reset is gonna be EOS, that's hyperbole. It does mean the game overall will be less enjoyable though, which as Poet typed as I type this above, leads to a worse player experience -> less spending -> less relevancy.

But having a reset mostly if it's only like 3-5 every 2 months isn't going to actually hurt them mostly as the roster expands.

Personally I'd say 3 resets per a season is a fair and reasonable balance between maximizing your profits (and minimizing loss of opportunity) while keeping the playerbase happy and encourages freedom of experimentation knowing you have an out even if it's only every 2 months

[pliant portal]

xd

[daring harbor]

You are making an assumption that more resets = less people buying lattices. Which can’t be proven.

I can tell you I have bought every lattice pack available and would buy more if there were reset event.

By the end of RTA season there would be way more units, metas are constantly evolving, you can’t really “buy a meta”, because when you “buy” a unit a new one drops a few weeks after. There isn’t lattice to build everything.

“Mistakes” are: experimenting. If you don’t value experimentation sgood luck with your perfect choices

[cyan shuttle]

This guy thinks the clown ass posters on here could wait 2 months between resets

[sick wadi]

Reset at the end of the season and we're chilling, make people hype for next season, can change a few characters if you messed up or got hype baited, and you're more likely to spend imo

[cyan shuttle]

Half the people on here would do all 3 and instantly come here to complain 2 months is too long

[grave night]

As much as I wanna disagree, you're right

[north field]

There will always be those where it's never enough. Those are the feedback a dev must filter through to find where it's reasonable requests versus "player brained" requests.

The job of a good dev is to find that balance in the middle.

[pliant portal]

Wdym which cant be proven? It doesnt have to get proven its just common sense.

If you badly want to build certain chars and dont have the lattice for it, you can simple reset them according to the current rta meta, obviously the company will sell less lattice if you can just change a good portion of your roster.

You are disconnected if you think the biggest whales are the ones who keep games like this alive. Its more like the dolphins and low spenders who buy monthly things(Bp, subs) and some cheap good value packs. We, and the most portion of this discord are just a super loud minority and will always be. Its funny, I think a lot of people forget that haha.

[rich sonnet]

Wait what

[weak geyser]

That depends on the player population tbh. Which the devs don’t want XD

[rich sonnet]

Most gacha games income is directly tied to whales

[sick wadi]

Yeah whales always fund the games

[weak geyser]

That’s cause of their low player counts tbf

[shy bobcat]

it should be 5000 crystal each

[rich sonnet]

Even the big ones

Whales account for most of the purchasing

[pliant portal]

The definition of whale is subjective

[rich sonnet]

Especially in china

[north field]

no it rly isnt

[sick wadi]

isn't something stupid like less than 1% of a game population is what fund the studios

[rich sonnet]

Yes

[cyan shuttle]

What’s the official amount one needs to spend to be considered a whale please

[sick wadi]

cause the actual whales are insane

[rich sonnet]

It is the cn people buying 1000 100$ packs at once for fun

[north field]

The same amount as what it takes to max out the entire shop available at a games launch is your 1/monthly spending = whale

[rich sonnet]

That's an exaggeration but yk what I mean

[north field]

the $ amount can vary game to game as what is sold varies

but considering im in a guild filled with whales that's generally the bare minimum expected if you're gonna be considered "whaling" in a gacha

anything below ur a dolphin

[formal crater]

I dont know man but im loosing faith ... devs are not cooking with the right ingredients.

[sick wadi]

I've always said etheria is like a kitchen where they are cooking but everything is burning and no one is actually a chef.

[rich sonnet]

Also the argument that they will sell less lattice packs it's plausible but if you're waiting for a reset every 2 months that means ur playing the game for 2 months

[north field]

need to get gorden ramsey here to tell them to fix their fucking menu

[rich sonnet]

In which case you could be incentivized to purchase other things

[proper fulcrum]

A majority of cn players are mobile

[sick wadi]

It's raw, walking around the kitchen floor.

[proper fulcrum]

Once this game launches in cn, we'll see more of what the cn community thinks of it

[pliant portal]

That might be true

[proper fulcrum]

Purely through revenue

[north field]

most of cn dont like the game

cause too many men

[proper fulcrum]

Already?

[north field]

yes

[sick wadi]

[formal crater]

You want to make a salad in the kitchen but you cant get enough Lettuce.

LMAO

[sick wadi]

Loool

We're cooking in here for real

[north field]

"Has men, won't play"

[vague lotus]

The chinese are enlightened

[north field]

The ratio thread was bait

and the devs fell for it

[sick wadi]

LOL

[north field]

now it's gg

[weak geyser]

But but but the male : female ratio

[vague lotus]

We need Drelzhar with tits

Its an emergency situation

[north field]

Fuck Drelzhar we need more Yeli's

[vague lotus]

Yikes

Yeli is lame

[north field]

fine fine

[sick wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-chef-gif-6997565353595801151

[north field]

Veronica's

[grave night]

Ew, we need more Rosa

[sick wadi]

Real image of etheria "devs" cooking

[grave night]

Would be funny if Nahor is the last male released

[north field]

Game would finally have a future

[sick wadi]

Gooner pivot into the no male release curveball

[north field]

No more "balanced ratio" bs I left that discord. GOONER CHARACTERS ONLY FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. (And 3 resets a season)

[proper fulcrum]

I like yelis design

[rich sonnet]

I do too

[rich sonnet]

You like every females design buddy u ain't fooling nobody

[proper fulcrum]

Yeli is peak tho

[rich sonnet]

Yea and Kloss was peak to you too until we had the conversation

[sick wadi]

Yeli is hard carrying my alt account

it's pretty disgusting lol

[proper fulcrum]

I cant read 😭

[rich sonnet]

I'm well aware of that

You'll still be my fav whale though

[north field]

Yeli cute asf

and her JP VA is something else

[proper fulcrum]

[grave night]

Going the brown dust route

[proper fulcrum]

Alice tomorrow

Sorry babes I have a bunny i gotta swipe for

[grave night]

Mfs got women pulling swords from their armpits now

-# Destiny Child is even worse 😂

[proper fulcrum]

@grave night r u pulling alice or saving for next patch

[north field]

bro did u guys see the browndust char who pulls sword out of her womb tattoo?

they have to put their logo down there for the teaser video

[hard root]

2 biggest regrets so far, not rerolling for lily and skipping yeli

[rich sonnet]

I'm in the same situation as you

Except I pulled yeli on standard

[sick wadi]

I skipped yeli too, regret it so much I made an alt and rerolled for her

[rich sonnet]

But I don't have Lily or doki

So it's doomge

[north field]

Skipping Yeli, honestly you deserve to suffer

no sympathy on that one homie

[proper fulcrum]

who voices jp yeli

peak va

[sick wadi]

I'm all good, can clear everything without her lol

[north field]

that's like if u go to hell and u get there and satan is like "what u here for?" then it pans over to you being hitler.

like it was just fate at that point

[sick wadi]

lool

[rich sonnet]

I've spawned in on every bis shell in this game so yea I actually deserve it

[sick wadi]

You heard it here guys, you skipped yeli you are hitler

[rich sonnet]

Just ask @proper fulcrum

[sick wadi]

brb trimming the moustache

[north field]

correct 100%

[sick wadi]

She is great though, loving this account

Starting again with the knowledge I have now is kinda crazy tbh

Would recommend to anyone who is bored

[rich sonnet]

If I started again I would've rolled for 6 copies of holden

[sick wadi]

I'm just gonna go all speed again

Meta will shift

and speed is always crazy in these games

[rich sonnet]

Id bet Holden gets another buff over cleave being meta again

[sick wadi]

[proper fulcrum]

lucker dog

[cyan jay]

i havent even got one onslaught something with furyedge. im only still doing shell farming since 2x day imma be farming dokidoki inferno

[pallid seal]

this is why I think the reason a few people think the RNG is perfect as is, is because they got lucky and don't realize just how unlucky you can really get. I've seen level 100s without viper for fks sake 🤣

I've also rolled some insane passives on shells for cheap. but my module luck is real bad.

I'm gonna be finishing my yeli I got off perm banner then finish obol/sania/maybe chiaki and spam terror for some better DPS mods

[dusty stream]

I can't stop getting red speed rolls on shells where I'm not looking for it

[cyan shuttle]

i wouldnt mind some kind of item where we can save high rolls and put them on a different shell

[paper turtle]

Not gonna see such things for a year

you know when we eos

[jolly lava]

You know how it is
Marathoning our way to eos boys

[daring harbor]

Since Liliam was buffed… does this means we should get a reset event?

My rationale is: When X is not great, you invest Lattice somewhere else, but when X is now buffed, you feel bad because those resources could have been to X instead which is now an OP Unit.

Is that a mistake from us because we couldn’t see the future?
Or a mistake from the team because she had a bug + now she has been tuned in both PvE and PvP??

Saying this in a different way: Every balancing change affect the whole ecosystem

Any thoughts on this?

[weak geyser]

they didnt nurf a char so by their logic no reset event

[daring harbor]

Of course!! And is a marathon, right? 🤣🤣

[pliant portal]

No reset event keep beggin 😴

[sly temple]

Or u could just wait until u get more lattice to invest into her

[daring harbor]

Exaaaactly!! Because it’s a marathon!

[sly temple]

It is

I just invested all my lattice into holden aw crap lilliam op now but I still have a latticed holden 😉

Do i need a reset to unlattice my holden for the buffed op unit nah lattices on holden are great

[shy bobcat]

pls no reset event. let those bricked be bricked

[jolly lava]

We've needed a reset event after the new season patch notes
Now there's just more reason for it

[jolly lava]

Let us enjoy our marathon of cope together bbg 💕

[jolly lava]

Being bricked is proof that you're a proud marathon runner
Let's be bricked till the end of times

[dusty stream]

I'm always bricked but what does that have to do with etheria

[daring harbor]

Agreed with you 100%. Team Reset forever 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[pallid seal]

fr I didn't get to use my new account reset 🙁 give it back

[wild tangle]

[hard root]

C coming with the reset event leak i smell it

[pallid seal]

he is so against a reset I doubt he brought it up in the call. so unless another team member brought that to the table we'll have to keep huffing copium

[sick wadi]

There's like 5 retards who gatekeep reset on this discord, downvoting it everytime, it's so funny since most people want it for one reason or another

C waiting 4 days for a screenshot is my favorite thing on this discord rn

[pallid seal]

yeah there's gotta be more to it than that. he's gotta be oversimplifying the hangup

[sick wadi]

I know but it's funny that's the excuse lol

[pallid seal]

they'd use it day one if they got it. some people make arguing a hobby regardless of topic or their own opinions

tbh this wouldn't help most people but if they could just give me back the reset I was supposed to have. having it expire after a week makes no sense.

game came out the exact day I drove across 3 states for 10 days on vaca.

didnt do any homework on the game til i got back to my house

[dusty stream]

I mean if he's waiting on feature work to get done for a screenshot and they haven't gotten to it yet it makes perfect sense

Blockers be blocking

Very typical stuff

[narrow lynx]

"it's a marathon not a sprint"

actual retards

[pallid seal]

a lot of people will quit if half their available lattice is locked in a character that sucks/didn't need it. virtually no one will quit if they let most of us fix that mistake.

I don't necessarily agree that we need constant resets, but major balance changes should come with one and they're probably going to do it every RTA. when they gigabuffed Liliam that should have come with one immediately.

lots of people held lattice for her, some spent it, some were smart and actually waited, then she was mid excpet in niche pvp situations and they latticed someone else, then she got buffed after the lattice was spent.

[shy bobcat]

"i 4/5/5 my massiah" which is weird cause he's enough with 1/1/5 pls reset

[neon wasp]

i feel it might be an anniversary thing, maybe once a year

[pallid seal]

me with a 4/5/5 massiah and 1/1/3 lian

[pallid seal]

in a year we'll have so much lattice compared to the number of SSRs on our account that it wont feel nearly as bad to have to wait to lattice another. feels bad now because of proportion.

[neon wasp]

i honestly doubt so, the rate of new ssrs to lattice income is disproportionate

there will always be lack of lattices

[shy bobcat]

never enough. there'll always be new units to lattice

[pallid seal]

but a reset now wont ruin this vision that devs have which is "just trust us everything will feel good in 100 years" when we have no rapport with them and no reason to trust their design vision as it is anyway.

[neon wasp]

esp for LD units where the standard is 555

[pallid seal]

we said the same thing

[pallid seal]

it depends on what kind of characters they release, but the rate of lattice is pretty close to 1:1 with the units that drop. it feels bad now cause we pulled a ton of new ones since it's a new game, but we'll only get one new one every few weeks and we get like 16 lattice a month if we do everything. 10 a month is pretty easy to get.

I'm not saying lattice is perfect and no changes are needed. but a reset now will feel way better than a reset in a year. a lot of players dropped out cause someone told them they bricked their account with lattice choices.

in a year if your account feels bricked because of a lattice choice idk what to say. you probably didn't play all year.

I agree with the premise in this thread, just pointing out that they're running out of time for a reset to feel really good rather than meh okay cool thanks.

[neon wasp]

thing is giving a reset now will completely ruin their business model

this is like one of their only sources of revenue

a reset now means gg forward no one really needs to pay for lattices

[proper fulcrum]

maybe the reset event could just be one character

[dusty stream]

Brother I just don't think that's true

We get an average of one unit every 2 weeks right now and we get an average of 12, maybe up to like 15 lattices per month as far as we can tell

Combined with the headstart of like 70ish lattices for 25ish SSRs on release, we're never getting there unless they start doing only one unit per RGB banner, and even then you'll be rationing

[pallid seal]

16 is the most you can get, and their stated plan is to slow the release of SSRs, no double banners, etc.

[dusty stream]

Even with 2 units a month or 1.5 I don't know that we'll ever catch up

[pallid seal]

avg of one every 3 weeks, and it probably should cost money to max all of em, most people wont play all characters.

I didn't say catch up.

[neon wasp]

while i get the idea but u know a company will and can never allow players to have a 1 to 1 lattice income, they'll throw in something in the future if it does become 1 to 1

[pallid seal]

I think that's the crux of our misunderstanding

what I said was proportionally, having 17 SSRs and enough lattice to max 3, vs having 80 SSRs and enough lattice to max 50, is going to feel very different.

and especially early people are desperate for prog so throwing lattice into whatever half decent DPS they get. playing things they don't necessarily want to play.

we will never be able to max them all and if for some reason the math does work out that way somehow with events etc, they will find a way to tone it down like @neon wasp said.

I say this with all the love in the world, at least two of you demonstrably did not understand what I wrote. pls lmao I don't wanna spend a ton of time defining common english words.

read as slow as necessary for you

[pallid seal]

and to this point, people will pay for lattices to make up that gap. the same gap I explicitly stated would exist in the beginning. lots of people are completionists to a fault. I know tons of people who do absolutely boring shit in World of Warcraft just for a few achievement points. people will still buy lattice. maybe fewer, but it's a balancing act to keep the game alive and draw people in/keep them/spending less on small stuff. like myself who will never spend $30 for a single skill up but I will drop 5-15 for 10-30 pulls or a battle pass or whatever

[neon wasp]

fair point fair point, aye idk man i let the experts do their thing

[dusty stream]

If they actually slow it down at only 100 units there's a chance that makes any sense at all

But they've talked about having over 3x that number in game eventually

So we'll see

[pallid seal]

Getting to a number doesn't matter as much as how fast they get there

[dusty stream]

Exactly

[pallid seal]

obviously this all hinges on them doing what they said, and I'm not putting my life on that.

sounded like FQ/Nahor was the last double unless something in the future really makes them want to release two at a time. but they have agreed the pace right now is too fast to keep going. what they said is they wanted an early diversity of units to work with.

so hopefully the next RGB is a single and it stays that way for many months. and if there's ever a double LD I'm outtie lmao

[dusty stream]

Don't speak that evil aloud

[pallid seal]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[daring harbor]

I'm pretty confident we'll see a double banner in a few days, I don't have any reason to believe we won't, and one of the units it's going to be huge.

It wouldn't be a surprise since we just got an event asking us to use pulls, so... what do you do when you can't pull? OH, surprise, you buy stuff! ☠️

[pallid seal]

it's possible we have one next, but one extra ssr has little bearing on my overall point and if the devs do that, that just confirms this is a pump and dump project tbh

[daring harbor]

I agree with you once again. Also I don't doubt is a pump and dump disguised as RTA PvP with hardcore PvE 😄

[dusty stream]

no banner of any sort will drop until liliam is done

maybe they'll drop hype for the next one at the end of this week though

[daring harbor]

yes I meant after Liliam ends, so in 8ds and a bit

[dusty stream]

ah gotcha

to me a few days is always 3

[daring harbor]

haha true, generally is 3 in English!

[dusty stream]

I think the larger the unit is, the more likely it is to be understood as 3, because deviance matters more

a few months? that's 3, a few m&ms from a friend's bag? that can be like 10

[weak geyser]

unless

https://tenor.com/view/that-smile-that-damned-smile-that-damn-smile-flirt-flirting-gif-5720914155596048498

[dusty stream]

https://tenor.com/view/naw-mike-epps-nah-hell-hellnaw-gif-14719746325970885289

[pallid seal]

a couple is 2-3, a few is 4-5, and several is 6-12. my wife thinks several is 2+ tho which causes a great degree of friction in our marriage

[dusty stream]

But couple means exactly 2

[pallid seal]

depends on context. people? 2. can I get a couple M&Ms? can be three.

[dusty stream]

True

[weak geyser]

When I say a couple of m&ms I mean hand over your entire stash

[pallid seal]

[hollow ferry]

I got them last night at 4 am

but now they wanna align my announcement over all our socials and have a page on the etheria website setup with the images and stuff too

so itl be friday

so that it comes from etheria not just me

XD

[sick wadi]

All good man, take your time 🙂

[daring harbor]

C replying on the Reset Thread with the hype?!!!

W C

[daring harbor]

(I just realised double U, C sounds awful if you don’t know the context and mix them together, but you got the idea…)

[true knoll]

I thought you meant Wrong Chat 😭💀

[grave night]

water closet?

[plush sorrel]

last night + 4am

[jolly lava]

4am is still considered night time