Okay the GvG Thing is REALLY Bad.

[tribal cairn]

sister rengo

[robust obsidian]

give us reset

[feral hatch]

arent we owed this though? a emergency nerf? legit 99% of players are complaining about the meta and weird buffs no?

[robust obsidian]

[mortal vigil]

global beta test will save CN from the gvg bugs

[strange turtle]

then why is pve content the issue regarding nerfing bb

[swift prism]

Counter Offer Nerf BB/Rev and 40% Nerf to Rengo, 20% Nerf to Aurora, 10% Nerf to Hoyan/Terrormaton/Doki 30% Nerf to Sharon.

[young condor]

Yes we are

[swift prism]

[gleaming bramble]

dunno

🔥

[young condor]

And idk how anyone can say we aren't owed a reset event

[tribal cairn]

yeah just nerf bb in pvp oly

only*

like you did with rev

[feral hatch]

christian i know u agree with us ❤️ like u are a sane person

[strange turtle]

yeah thats what i mean

[tribal cairn]

make it like 35-40% in pvp

and we are good

[strange turtle]

if they can nerf rev for pvp surely they can do bb too

[tribal cairn]

permanent no cooldown 55% damage reduction is wild

[strange turtle]

so we wouldnt be in this situation at all

[feral hatch]

like why is bloodbath 55%? how is it possible that it reduces above 50% LOL

that's just greedy

[swift prism]

They had to do something sneaky with Rev for the nerf by applying the DR from Arena Realm to it so it didn't affect PVE.

[gleaming bramble]

only inferno change I think needs to be made genuinely is rengo rng regardless of how much of a pain they are

[feral hatch]

no damage reduc game mechanic ever reduces more than 50%

[lyric tundra]

they kinda dodged direct shell nerf and went with the arena effect so idk if they can change it actually

[tribal cairn]

i mean make it an arena effect on bloodbath ?

[mortal vigil]

what's ur secret strat for inferno rengo

[tribal cairn]

like just reduce that shit

55-> 40%

we are chilling

[gleaming bramble]

I can't beat that shit twin

[lyric tundra]

it alrdy is -30% dmg than bb 55%

cleave nightmare

[mortal vigil]

[strange turtle]

aurora needs a nerf too for sure that shit takes too long

[swift prism]

I know its something we won't see Eye To Eye on. I would aslo be content with a sweep button if you wanna keep the "Difficulty" and "Sense of Accomplishment"

[feral hatch]

wuzzy use the diting kloss vice ling comp

make kloss and ling around 280 spd with kloss being faster

[mortal vigil]

oh I can clear I was just curious

uwu

[feral hatch]

and vice on bb around 250

oh okay

i tuned that team perfectly

[dusky cradle]

@gleaming bramble do we get to the secret room only after we clear all the hard ember trek ? And what is exactly in it ? Because a lot of ppl aren't able to push that far and not sure how many can fully clear hard ember this reset it's harder than last time

[feral hatch]

yes it's an extra stage after u clear hard 42

[tribal cairn]

its a cosmetic

[strange turtle]

a frame and a pfp

[tribal cairn]

frame and phoebe pfp

[strange turtle]

dont chase it

[mortal vigil]

it's not consistent but that's cuz my sania ain't 555 cuz I never was too crazy about her

I was wrong

[gleaming bramble]

nah I am not for that idea but im for the idea of allowing more auto clears whether its making losses not count towards the 10 (with a cap), or increasing from 10-20/30

[young condor]

Secret room is where the reset event is

[gleaming bramble]

that would help

so much

so so so so so much

[tribal cairn]

christian did you know that

[swift prism]

If losses don't count and you can set it so if a unit dies to count it as a fail

[tribal cairn]

both yeon and kekker are building bruisers

meta is that fucked

[gleaming bramble]

awesome

[swift prism]

so you team isn't burning 20 Minutes on a loss cause DPS dies.

[gleaming bramble]

lol

[strange turtle]

but then my sania cant revive them and clear anyways

[mortal vigil]

me wondering why my doki fight was 1/8 after 20 minutes

[swift prism]

I said as a Setting.

[tribal cairn]

on the bright side

[strange turtle]

true missed that part

[tribal cairn]

lilliam is working as intended in high elo

completely making non bruiser play styles unplayable

forcing everybody to play bruiser

chefs kiss

[swift prism]

unit die count as loss.

[tribal cairn]

[mortal vigil]

I'm not sold on flopliam yet

[gleaming bramble]

[mortal vigil]

just cuz yeli was also called a flop

and well

[tribal cairn]

well yeli is good in pve and pvp

[gleaming bramble]

yeah im not gonna let the outrage about liliam get to me yet

[tribal cairn]

lilliam is oppressive as hell in pvp

[gleaming bramble]

nobody holding people at gunpoint to pull on her

[strange turtle]

would you rather the meta pre liliam or post liliam

[lyric tundra]

shes fine problem is the meta change favors brusier to much (she aswell)

[tribal cairn]

ofc pre lilliam

[swift prism]

Oh wait...

[tribal cairn]

pre lilliam meta was one of the best ive experienced as a sw veteran of 10+ years

post lilliam meta feels like constipation

[swift prism]

I forgot Liliam completely neuters the 3rd playstyle Pre S1

[strange turtle]

pre liliam but also post patch notes

[tribal cairn]

20 minute toilet games

[strange turtle]

i should say

[tribal cairn]

still pre lilliam

[robust obsidian]

[lyric tundra]

i bet ppl auto on RTA now

[tribal cairn]

i mean some people would get better results that way

[strange turtle]

[tribal cairn]

cause people are that bad

[swift prism]

I have been but I also tanked my Rank to Iron

before end of last season

[tribal cairn]

can we make wound a yellow debuff

so it cant be cleansed

and bruisers can never heal

please

[swift prism]

OH

[tribal cairn]

would unironically be better than what we have

[swift prism]

We need a unit with uncleansable Debuffs

That would be a good buff to Shooty Shooty man

[mortal vigil]

ssr kraken that stuns ppl by sitting on them

[flat pewter]

cant heal when their dead =]

[mortal vigil]

can't be dispelled

I still don't have kraken smh

[tribal cairn]

ssr kraken is worse than kraken

[swift prism]

Can't make them dead through bloodbath

[tribal cairn]

thats nahor

[mortal vigil]

nowhore

[glossy spindle]

There are so many Inferno Rengo teams that are very achievable for every account

[flat pewter]

i mean you can it just takes set up

[glossy spindle]

People need to actually start playing the game instead of just having a meltdown every time something is hard

[mortal vigil]

i can clear btw

[robust obsidian]

why are you on light mode

[mortal vigil]

cuz I'm USED TO IT

[young condor]

This was in my thread lmao

[swift prism]

Rengo should be autoable at account level 55 as long as you are not duping an element and using DPS Support +2 With Lattice and Level investment.

[strange turtle]

well we're not so you should change it

[swift prism]

[mortal vigil]

[tribal cairn]

people want this to be a pve game

and i guess thats the reason why devs are destroying rta meta

it all makes sense now

anyway that was fun

good doomposting

gotta go touch some grass

but @gleaming bramble for real fix rta

[glossy spindle]

People way too entitled these days fr

[tribal cairn]

like this cant go on for 2 months

[swift prism]

[lethal steppe]

put elemental advantage/disadvantage on units and bosses. make the ai for bosses attack rng not by elemental advantage = hard mode for pve unlocked

[swift prism]

Bosses have Elemental Advantage plus their Increase Elemental Advantage.

[swift prism]

Wanting a Balanced/Healthy Game = Entitled.

[tribal cairn]

funny thing is

nobody is playing rta in high elo

[swift prism]

I know

[glossy spindle]

Most of the complaints about Etheria are not rooted in balance or health of the game.

They're mostly just 'i want the game to be easier for me'

[young condor]

Yes they are

[rich oar]

Scarlet didn’t have a issue with setting up defense I made people check everything after the update

[swift prism]

I want the game to be easier and more accessible to others.

[glossy spindle]

I don't believe games are supposed to be easy at every stage. Where's the challenge or using your brain

[swift prism]

People getting hard stuck on this when the game tells you you should be clearing it by Account level 51.

Its a feels bad moment.

[glossy spindle]

The game doesn't tell you that you should be clearing it at level 51

They're just achievements and bonuses

[swift prism]

RTA, Embertrex, Anisync, Ethernet. Keep that shit out of farming stages.

[rich oar]

[glossy spindle]

It's like people getting upset they can't buy out an entire event store...just use options

[swift prism]

That is a valid complaint.

its a feels bad moment.

[glossy spindle]

lol ok

[tribal cairn]

outside of farming stages ?

like are you for real

[woven cosmos]

I think they overtuned the final release of pve content. You can follow the charter and still get walled

[young condor]

Even more feelsbad when you have to gamble to get what you want

[woven cosmos]

SHAROOOOON

[young condor]

Dreamscape moment

lol

[tribal cairn]

make ember trek, ethernet anisync harder

make farming easy

so people can actually play pvp

[swift prism]

1 Feelsbad Moment = 10-50 Feels Good Moments

Etheria has no feels good moments right now...

[glossy spindle]

Farming is easy

As a F2P player you can clear INFERNO of everything within a month

That is easy as hell

[tribal cairn]

you can do every farming stage in 3 days

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

in this games competition

tking a month is abysmal

[young condor]

I don't understand how people think this

[glossy spindle]

You cannot clear all the PvE content in E7 within 3 days

[tribal cairn]

e7 is not this games competition its sw

and i said famring content

not pve

[young condor]

I can clear everything. Hell I cleared inferno rengo in 50 seconds, but it's just not consistent enough without insane investment

[tribal cairn]

e7 is a casual non rta focused game

sw is a rta focused game

[young condor]

For the average player, they're getting ass blasted by rengo

And aurora

[swift prism]

they ain't even to rengo....

[young condor]

Or that

[woven cosmos]

Kloss

[swift prism]

They stuck on Sharon Hoyan and Terror and some on Doki.

[young condor]

Hoyan was pain for me before I got celince leveled

[mortal vigil]

no one asking for pve clears within 3 days

[young condor]

I didn't get ssania

[mortal vigil]

why is this always the default argument

[tribal cairn]

i like how not a single good player in this game is saying pve is in ahealthy state

show me a single player who does well in rta and thinks pve is healthy

[mortal vigil]

idk plenty of CCs, non spenders and high rank rta players LOVE rengo

[glossy spindle]

lol ok

[mortal vigil]

[young condor]

The response I'd expect for sure

[glossy spindle]

Good luck

[tribal cairn]

i mean im calling you out

you do claim people are bad and not using their brain

[young condor]

Thank you etheria for sponsoring this video

[tribal cairn]

where is your brain

are you gold elo in rta

cause thats where you are supposed to use your brain

[glossy spindle]

I was diamond 3 this season but eh

[tribal cairn]

diamond 3 is low elo

[glossy spindle]

Ok cool

[tribal cairn]

figures

[swift prism]

Diamond 3 is giga low elo...

[tribal cairn]

you are not uing your brain

[woven cosmos]

talk your shit uncle bug

[tribal cairn]

always

dear son

[tribal cairn]

do you like it when im super unhinged

[swift prism]

I like this Bug guy

[tribal cairn]

when i call out peoples bullshit

[swift prism]

[glossy spindle]

You aren't calling out anything.

[woven cosmos]

yes

[glossy spindle]

You are just exposing yourself as entitled and whiny.

[young condor]

[tribal cairn]

you suck at the game while calling other people they cant use their brain

[swift prism]

WAIT hold on.

[glossy spindle]

I do? I feel like I'm doing pretty well.

[tribal cairn]

seems like peak hypocrisy to me

[glossy spindle]

I can clear all content and win more than I lose in PvP.

[tribal cairn]

diamond 3

thats sucking

[swift prism]

When did you start farming Rengo Inferno and did you netdeck your team? @glossy spindle

[glossy spindle]

2 months ago, and I only use R characters

[willow dome]

I like how all it took for xiao to unleash hell on this guy

[swift prism]

[willow dome]

was when he said people dont use their brain

[swift prism]

Drop that inferno Clear baby

We need to see proof from the god gamer.

[rich oar]

Guys what top guilds have lost so far cause there leaders didn’t check defenses

[glossy spindle]

I'm not a god gamer.

I'm a very average gamer.

I just don't feel like games need to hand me everything and that it's ok to take time to clear things.

[strange turtle]

[young condor]

Clearing 1/5 everytime with an R team doesn't even count

[swift prism]

We are in a heated battle We had everyone check and post their teams but they didn't set PvP gear.

[young condor]

Not that I believe you cleared with all R units lol

[tribal cairn]

i had no gear on my defense

[willow tapir]

the problem isnt checking defenses if you had turned on pvp loadout even if you selected your pve gear it would go based of pvp gear

[glossy spindle]

fwiw I have 80% clear which I'm ok with

[tribal cairn]

seems like game put some random gear

i have count tiamat for some reason

on my defense

[strange turtle]

sauce??

[tribal cairn]

no sauce

[strange turtle]

damn

[tribal cairn]

game just did some weird shit

[rich oar]

We didn’t have any issues with ours

[woven cosmos]

I generally agree with you but there is no reason to make the content this hard

[tribal cairn]

and i got random gear on my units in gvg defense

[rich oar]

Maybe we got lucky

[woven cosmos]

you can save that for the super endgame pve

[rich oar]

But I did not trust this update

So I checked everything

[swift prism]

Same...

[tribal cairn]

you guys were probably paying attention to whats going on

i just

slammed my units

[swift prism]

But both guilds were like half naked.

I didn't think to tell people to check their PvP gear or to Turn off the PvP gear option.

[willow tapir]

i dont care that the bug happened I care about the response. if this happened in SW or E7 we would get maint within hours and the GvG would be disabled.... HUGE DIFFERENCE

[tribal cairn]

how is your gvg going ?

[glossy spindle]

Well I guess I just don't think content being clearable if you play well within a month is really making it that crazy though. As the game goes on longer it'll probably get easier and they'll make it more accessible to new players like the other games did.

[tribal cairn]

were you in scarlet

[swift prism]

let me check.

[glossy spindle]

Like it took forever for a lot of people to do wyvern 13

Back in the day.

[young condor]

Best we can give is a holden buff

[swift prism]

How did you start clearing Rengo Inferno 2 months ago...

Also did you netdeck your team from a CC

[mortal vigil]

and turandot nerf

[swift prism]

[glossy spindle]

It was a joke response to a silly question

[young condor]

Power of the R units

[swift prism]

Wasn't a silly question

[young condor]

Hol up

[glossy spindle]

I use Doki/Fuqiu/Viper/Diting fwiw

[swift prism]

Good team good Team

[tribal cairn]

net decked and recked

[glossy spindle]

I am also experimenting with a Sania team but eh

also lol 'netdecking'

Come on now

[swift prism]

Nah that one doesn't look netdecked.

[tribal cairn]

it is pauls day 1 team

[swift prism]

[young condor]

I have a dream that this will be every kill

[glossy spindle]

Who is Paul?

[tribal cairn]

i mean fuqui day 1 team

[swift prism]

Im gonna give CJ benefit of the doubt that it wasn't netdecked

[glossy spindle]

Anyway every single team and character interaction pretty much comes from other people

[tribal cairn]

yeah can see it happening

[glossy spindle]

Doki/Fuqiu combination is something I saw someone else use and then I added Diting and was suggested to use Viper

[swift prism]

nvm

[tribal cairn]

so how is your gvg going

and are you in scarlett ?

[swift prism]

Also the guide is basically the Tutorial for new players so yes it kind of does.

[glossy spindle]

It's not a tutorial it's just achievements

[tribal cairn]

notice me serra 😔

[swift prism]

[glossy spindle]

It makes you do the same achievements like 5 different times with clearing Hell versions etc.

[swift prism]

its a progression tutorial

[glossy spindle]

It's not a tutorial at all

[swift prism]

That helps guide people early on in the game.

[woven cosmos]

Oh, it definitely will. I have no doubt about that.
Fuqui saved some people's runs and Yeli personally made all my clears (events, challenges) much, much, much easier. Train event and cage rumble don't feel like shit either now

But they did advertise this as a pvp game and the longer you keep people from being able to fully enjoy said content, the more likely they are to leave. Rev spam only became such a widespread issue because of how accessible it was compared to rengo

[swift prism]

And Aurora*

[woven cosmos]

true true. Aurora as well

I was popping off in my union when I finally beat her

[swift prism]

its the firt guild wars we didn't sweep and multiple people ended up wasting attack because of the pvp gear issue. not to mention some of our stronger defenders are naked.

[tribal cairn]

one of my guildmates almost lost to a bot

he was top 10 last season in rta

[glossy spindle]

Yeah I think that's fair but I also think it's one of those things where do you expect to jump into a game and immediately compete at the top of PvP? Especially if you're playing F2P? It's achievable with time and the same thing will apply in the future. Catchup mechanics always get added afterward; right now most of the people playing were playing with a level field (aside from people who can drop silly money).

[swift prism]

Here is the problem CeeJ The GAME and INFERNO was in a Literal Perfect State Pre Launch.

[glossy spindle]

I think if they made the matchmaking in the tournaments they run on weekends better and also did more with them, or even added a tournament mode that was like the draft mode in E7 that had rewards that would be good too.

[swift prism]

Its like having a Juicy Tasty Apple but the one that gets served is rotten

I can't tell if @young condor is making fun of me

[mortal vigil]

even with beta it's like they made hanges

but never bothered to add them into patch notes

[young condor]

Lol, okay I'll change it

[mortal vigil]

for the bosses

[tribal cairn]

i mean its beta not a big deal

[mortal vigil]

I'm gonna key your car

[young condor]

I'm just sad

[swift prism]

Im not sad I think the game has the potential to move in the right direction

They just gotta stop being stubborn and listening to the CeeJ's

[tribal cairn]

i dont care about pve if they just fix the rta meta

[swift prism]

Cause you already in the RTA

[tribal cairn]

this is a pvp game for me

[young condor]

I'm crashing out on people because I can't believe what I am reading, defending certain things from these devs... It was/is so easy to capture the gacha PVP player base right now and they're just shitting the bed

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

yeah

[mortal vigil]

did u say buff Tiamat?

buff fuck you?

[woven cosmos]

Yeah, top of PVP is expecting too much. I think getting to pick your own playstyle early and do some games is fine.

By 1st anni, a lot of these pain points will be solved. But right now, it's feelsbadman. We're really just beta testers for China

[mortal vigil]

say less

[tribal cairn]

think you can get top 10 f2p with some good rng on your pulls

[woven cosmos]

I heard lian was actually playable

and viktor

[tribal cairn]

was doable in season 0's meta

[swift prism]

Game was supposed to compete with SW and E7 but is looking likes its main PvP Competition is gonna be AFK Arena instead.

[mortal vigil]

no41 was a really solid f2p option in beta

but she got whacked

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

e7 is not rta game >: (

[strange turtle]

hey at least marvell is now beta marvell

[tribal cairn]

i dont think this games rta will ever be as bad as e7's

but right now its close

[mortal vigil]

victor got whacked, Lian got indirectly whacked against her best boss

[swift prism]

he isn't cause they gave all the bosses turn meter protection from beta to launch

[strange turtle]

[tribal cairn]

he is also ass in pvp

[woven cosmos]

wouldn't that be nice
I should enroll in your RTA classes

[tribal cairn]

in a better meta

where skill matters

currently its gear checked

so basically impossible for f2p

[mortal vigil]

and they nerfed turandot for whatever reason after cbt3

[tribal cairn]

to climb high

[young condor]

Now i'ts the weekend so wont hear literally anything until monday the earliest

[swift prism]

and PvE checked.

[tribal cairn]

but pretty sure i could have done it least season

with a solid account

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

i think outside of yeon and bread people are a level below

than a dozen or so guys

and rest is several levels below

but they sent yeon to shadow realm with rev nerf

so rip him

[swift prism]

I wanna fight Yeon

@modest breach Wanna do a fun pvp Match im also a Rev Abuser.

[tribal cairn]

last season was fun

[woven cosmos]

my gear is absolute pißwasser rn. I'll be in the aurora and doki mines on 2x
stopped refreshing and just hoarding gems to max refill

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

i loved playing bread and yeon last season

[swift prism]

||Ignore that im secretly a CC Main||

[tribal cairn]

now i hate playing anybody

[modest breach]

Sure

[tribal cairn]

👋

did you see my crashout again

had 2 seizures today

[swift prism]

Let me set the game up

[modest breach]

Nahh im at work 😭

[swift prism]

oh nvm

oh wait

ok

[swift prism]

#23760001

[tribal cairn]

i miss the good old days when yeon was typing on discord

before he gave up on the communty

[swift prism]

im about to get boddied.

[tribal cairn]

can you stream

[swift prism]

VC000

HOLY HE SO FAST

[tribal cairn]

im in

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

thanks for the effort

but my discord is bugged af

[swift prism]

I got cooked

[tribal cairn]

or my internet is shit

[swift prism]

[tribal cairn]

cant watch at all

[woven cosmos]

where link

[swift prism]

@modest breach Thanks for the eduction

[woven cosmos]

it's already over? damn

[swift prism]

He faster

and it not close

[tribal cairn]

was it a rev off

[swift prism]

I didn't get a turn

[modest breach]

[tribal cairn]

sounds about right

[feral hatch]

yeongeo can u use ur pull to pull a reset event

[swift prism]

Pretty sure he tried.

[modest breach]

I wish

[young condor]

Best we can do is a sheep

[tribal cairn]

yeon

[feral hatch]

im on my knees for the 15th time for everyone

[tribal cairn]

how is your testing going

any teams looking promising ?

[young condor]

Same, would be great

[tribal cairn]

i think ive found a few drafts i like into bruisers

[feral hatch]

this rosa gotta go

[modest breach]

Havent tested yet at workge 😭

But I had some drafts in mind tho

[tribal cairn]

fair enough

im liking count lilliam more i think

[strange turtle]

bw keeneye?

or bb

[vale horizon]

@gleaming bramble wait so devs are actually going to something about gvg that isn’t just aww sucks for those who lost ? Cause we at CLS are quite pissed right now

Cause no real response was given yet

[mortal vigil]

c said they don't wanna give out promises

even tho this is non negotiable but who am i to judge

[vale horizon]

No I need a “this is what we are going to do answer”

Sick of these we thinking about it

[mortal vigil]

we thinking about fixing one of the main draws of the game

but nothing has been said other than

we told the devs

[vale horizon]

Yea but it’s non negotiable, a restart, or a reset, or a draw should be one of the only 3 options

[mortal vigil]

whether or not the devs acknowledged it who's to say

yea I agree it's non negotiable t

that's why I'm like why can't y'all make an announcement about it

[vale horizon]

Same urgh

[mortal vigil]

like are y'all gonna say we can't make/keep promises about fixing the game mode that was one of the main draws of ER

[vale horizon]

One of the three we care about

(And the only one that makes guilds a relevant thing)

[mortal vigil]

yea

but yea all c said was the devs know and they can't make promises

like earlier today

[rich oar]

Aye my dms make sense now

[feral hatch]

are u guys also on ur knees for a couple resets too or ist hat just me

[cyan fractal]

nah idk how its so hard to just make an official announcement to say that they know about gvg issue and they plan on fixing it asap or something.

[light berry]

sybau

[mortal vigil]

c said #nopromises

[crisp furnace]

Dw we right here w y'all

I was the only defense in the main line with gear

[barren summit]

This is why we get shit like this

[pure elk]

so it seems my sarcastic guess of 100 apologems for this issue was actually too generous

this is not a minor trivial bug

[sleek furnace]

clearly this is an intended feature as ER is a survival game

devs making sure people don’t let their guards down

[mortal vigil]

maybe it's a marathon to fix gvg

[tawdry parrot]

crazy how ur pvp arena gear gets use in pvp GvG who could've guessed

i swear some people are just slow

[tranquil nymph]

2/10 ragebait

[mortal vigil]

maybe if they didn't show pve gear and locked in pve gear during setup

[rancid panther]

those that nvr move their fav lineup gears win

[gray dew]

fastest block of my life

[prisma panther]

Me: sets up united front defenses prior to arena loadout feature going live
Me: deliberately chooses not to touch united front defenses assuming the previously stated gear gets snapshotted official statement holds true
Me: appalled to find out half my units on defense were missing gear during the combat phase

[rich oar]

aye

[willow tapir]

crazy when you pick your gear for the defense it shows pve gear loadouts and not pvp loadouts

[wanton talon]

@gleaming bramble I'd like to echo the sentiment as someone in the current r19 guild losing because more than 2/3rd of our guild is naked thanks to this bug. Just offer a draw and no rank changes. It's beyond ridiculous we're going to lose points for a mistake made on their end that we didn't even know about until things were locked in

Don't even opt to rematch cuz at this point all the defenses have been seen. There is no surprise factor. Just everyone gets a draw no changes to ranks for the week

[swift prism]

Not from C but I heard they were looking at Optimizing... Which means probably nothing happens this time and MAYBE next time its fixed but wouldn't hold my breath.

[sleek furnace]

this is the result of weeks of development, how do you expect them to be competent enough to make these changes under 48 hours

[swift prism]

[mortal vigil]

that's a promise and c said no promises whatsoever

don't break the rules

no etas, no roadmaps and above all no promises

[winged charm]

If china don't get something like advance server

They will have even lower interest

They pay for that also

[barren summit]

Even the devs are playing survival

They really do play their own game, just differently

How can we fuck up Cage after nerfing requirements. I know, let's add Hoyan for the Celince-less fucks

[sleek furnace]

just use r cachi

[gray dew]

this little fella is kinda goated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLQ2HV7DUI

[barren summit]

Yeah using him, shy of 200 points sadly. Maybe I'll go desperate and put Yeli there and figure out a diff DPS for Sharon

[gray dew]

Bleach that freak with Clorox

[barren summit]

Don't have him either, don't want him either cause it's a dude 😎

[gray dew]

I like watching him work so much I have to resist maxing him

[polar stream]

The Mirror Strike tool tip is also incorrect just to add icing to the cake and is only 5% instead of 20%. But obviously the visual bug with the load outs is 100 times worse and more frustrating. 😠

[swift prism]

bruh

[winged charm]

If there is no bruh moment it's not etheria

[sour wyvern]

Any admins or devs ackowledged this problem on United Front? We also encountered the problem on our union. We even reminded everyone to check their gears and shell before Layout Phase is over. Even doing the reconfirmations which is written in UF Rules to make sure our defenses have gears. Then when our defenses got attacked, most defenses have nothing on them. We also believe it's the Arena Loadout bugged.

[winged charm]

Yeah sadly every union suffered due to this

And there is no reply yet

From them

[mortal vigil]

oh c replied he just said we can't make promises

[final crown]

disable the mode❌
continue with the problem✅

[winged charm]

Disable the mode ❌ increase cage rumble by 30 days✅

[final crown]

disable the mode❌
revert back all changes in the recent patch note✅

[mortal vigil]

Disable the mode ❌ Nerf Turandot ✅

[final crown]

Disable the mode❌
Buff Lighthouse by 100% ✅

[sour wyvern]

Hope they address it soon. This is frustrating as there is no way to even check if the animus deployed have gears on them. We should also be compensated on this, like victory rewards for UF even if the union looses.

[winged charm]

Even top unions edged due to this

Honestly if they touch union if game is in so sensitive position now

That's just asking more to leave

My guild mate lost to a bot

Due to this

[sour wyvern]

Yeah, no gears on defenses and changing gears while attacking does not reflect on the deployed animus'.

[swift prism]

"They are Optimizing it"

[forest ruin]

i just serch on youtube if any cc metioned about this and i found you just now lol

[swift prism]

Yeah i think i was the only one

At least I gave a tip for how to avoid getting fucked on ATK

[sour wyvern]

Thank you for helping the community! I hope other cc's mention this as well. UF is a critical union content, though rewards are underwhelming, it is only 1 out of 2 union contents we currently have.

[rancid panther]

the monthly reward is...

[vale horizon]

Yea it’s actually the only enjoyable guild content, the bosses are quite boring and they are already just another chore

[swift prism]

hot take. United Front is currently the only fun content in the game atm.

not just guild content

[vale horizon]

uhh idk i dont hate ember trek

and co-op boss

but the rest yea

[swift prism]

[vale horizon]

[lyric tundra]

did they buff hard astarte XD

dmg is insane like pre nerf

[final raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-care-dont-even-care-gif-18539683

Dev are like :

[stray torrent]

also so like how we nerfed rev in pvp

can we nerf blood bath in gvg

kind of ridiculous

game kinda needs 4 characters

only 3 makes it pretty miserable

[winged charm]

Astrate level is just too high

[vale horizon]

idk man, seeing every opponent with 3 defense teams, 9 x bloodbath, 9x light house

such fun variety

[stray torrent]

yeah

triple bruiser pretty cool

can we add an ld one

so i can get 5/5 max damage delt and reduced damage taken

[vale horizon]

yea just missing that dark tank that halfs all damage taken for the team

[stray torrent]

also green sania

needs to be nerfed pvp only where u can’t ult first turn

needs to be delayed

it’s a sr

[vale horizon]

i dont mind her reviving, but holly fk between a rev and a cleanse she just dumb

[gray shoal]

The main issue is next week will it be pvp gear or pve gears for GvG

Imagine it's pve gears and you fixed pvp

Cause you don't know they fixed it

[stray torrent]

it’s so silly man

u need to play 2 units to play into 1

and if u miss ur cc

u die

[lime quiver]

They should give union its own loadout 😭😭

[sleek spoke]

hoping for them to at least make announcement for these issues and not left us in the dark

[hollow loom]

they should have stopped GVG immediately, settled every matchup with a draw with no change in rank and given everyone win rewards

instead it's 0 communication and another PR disaster

i dont get how they manage to make the wrong decision every time

[valid echo]

If I want to fix the union loadout, I'd have to fix the arena loadout first. Pls fix

[shy zealot]

cringe this still hasnt been addressed//disabled//nullified

[vale horizon]

@gleaming bramble really man no response and we are 2 hours before guild wars end

like you cant just hide your head in the sand, we need a response by your team

[glossy junco]

And i was questioning how is could lose against bots, yeah some units got no pvp loadout and changing them in battle doesn’t affect it ☠️

[tulip geode]

Idk they always let the problem pass then next update slight adjustments

So it's on par with what they have been doing so don't get your hopes up

[rancid panther]

guess is weekend and is sensitive case, so kinda wait for each other & need of further discussion which could be tough to find time on weekend

this week

so many naked soldiers got touched

[upper ocean]

Nice wording

[gray dew]

Leave my goated queen alone

[gray dew]

He did say "it will be fixed" I don't understand why they can't speak to specific steps though

[vale horizon]

feeling like more of an after fix

[gray dew]

Yeah

I assume there's nothing they could do to salvage the week anyway

[vale horizon]

cancel it

would have been the fix

cause a win this week means nothing, and a loss hurts

[gray dew]

I assume they'll roll it back with the next weekly patch but if not, it's party time

[vale horizon]

they wont i can tell, since they would have just come out straight away with a notice saying this guild war is being scrapped

cause now guilds that win will complain if they dont get their points

[gray dew]

I'm trying to keep myself out of doom mode today ok

Stop making true-sounding arguments

[rancid panther]

this week shall be remembered as the naked man touching week

[winged charm]

And the bot winning week

[rancid panther]

dark history for mr. rwan

[gray dew]

I took Liliam and 2 Dorothys into a bot fight and almost got clapped. I thought they must have upgraded the bots. Didn't notice that nobody was procing shells lmao

[willow tapir]

@vale horizon whats the score of your gvg?

[vale horizon]

4160 to 2700~

cause they are RTA players so at least their shit was built

[willow tapir]

yeah atleast we faced a weak union but still half our defenses were cooked

[young condor]

Crazy that they don't even reply to this

[cyan fractal]

they cant respond or u might think they are giving false promises, no rumors though

[young condor]

They have to think about one year down the line, no rumors though

[sleek spoke]

men became kinky in battlefield

[gray dew]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2Fmedia%2Fb8084d_14289f633a194329b1f44d79978f6ef1~mv2.jpg%2Fv1%2Ffill%2Fw_387%2Ch_387%2Cal_c%2Cq_80%2Cusm_0.66_1.00_0.01%2Cenc_auto%2FKINKI%2520Light%2520Onimusha.jpg&f=1&ipt=4f0779f364513b08321a71a8fbb6685ae3223eff6efe19cba4c01fed55598c5b

[swift prism]

Im malding

Our last person attacked the wrong nodes.

and our strongest defenders had no gear.

[rancid panther]

10point

is wild

[sleek spoke]

bro had the chance to become buzzer beater and missed it

[rancid panther]

[hollow loom]

nah this is just a cop-out, if there was a critical bug affecting the game that allowed players to gain free pulls or resources or something you know it would be patched in an instant

they just dont care

[silk reef]

gg brother

what a close fight

[swift prism]

Our Last person didn't attack your hidden red node or talk on discord you red node was ungeared.

[oblique violet]

We agree, This guildwar is absolutely horrendous. We faced like 4 or 5 teams that were naked, we had easily 20 to 30. The fact we lost despite it being so close simply cuz they got to use their weaker hits of their bottom members on some of our better ones cuz they were naked is a joke.

[silk reef]

yea fucking dumb setup gvg

[swift prism]

Woulda been better if everyone had been geared.

[silk reef]

@swift prism 100%

[untold brook]

so many ungeared defence thats hella wild

gg brother

[swift prism]

I was way too tilted this Guild war

[smoky parrot]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1401230469667881090 My post about why we need a reset event on every balance change. If anybody cares xd

[swift prism]

I care adept

[daring sorrel]

I had to do my first attack gearless since the select screen only lets you choose pve 😂

[swift prism]

Yeah that happened to a lot of folks

Good think I put out that PSA

Wonder how many watched it

[silk reef]

i did, but too late. kek

ungeared team

[swift prism]

you made a video

[tight hazel]

wheres dev

they need to talk about this

[oblique violet]

they don't care

no1 cares

C has been pinged but once again he doesn't care

no msg from the team too, not like they ever cared to begin with

[winged charm]

C already said

He can't make promises

It's like get good

Again

[sleek spoke]

thanks for being a guinea pig for this week's war as we move closer to CN release. the experiment was successful!

as a compensation we will send you 100 gems in your mail box.

[pearl loom]

Lets sue them

[swift prism]

"Looking into it"

[oblique violet]

Absolute Joke. Everyone reported this issue with their own defenses. Not to mention it overwrote your defense if you activated before the battle got opened.

This did clearly not work as intended like half of the patch btw and we got 0 for it

[swift prism]

It also happened to attackers as well

[oblique violet]

5k coins compensation btw ? fucking joke.

[swift prism]

Showing PvE then when you enter you using PvP

[oblique violet]

yeah your pvp loadout overwrote your atk stuff also

with no way to change

it's a joke

[dusky cradle]

it's a bot response i think a lot of ppl reported the same and got the same response

[swift prism]

i kno lol

[dusky cradle]

so what's the point of asking us to submit the ticket for them when they " know " the issue and response is the same

[swift prism]

More Reports come in more chance for company to respond

[dusky cradle]

the chances as slim as dreamscape lattice boxes drop rates xD

[vale horizon]

if you follow up with, Id like a real response and not this automated shit, you do get a real response

its just not that much better

[swift prism]

gonna try it

[vale horizon]

its actually just a human writting the same response with, "Hey im X, we really do understand your concern, and we are really thinking through our options before we release a solution"

[feral hatch]

can you push for a reset event in that ticket too

[swift prism]

no

[smoky parrot]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1401230469667881090 Finished my Thread btw 🙂

[feral hatch]

OMG

[smoky parrot]

give it a read if you are not afraid of essays xD

[vale pagoda]

I wonder if there is anything about this game that is working as intended 🙂
Imagine winning against the Rank 2 guild and you drop ranks in the leaderboard

this is shit level math

[barren summit]

Tbf on that one, their system rewards "gaps". In theory it works overtime. If 2 guilds win against their enemies and both are top 500, theoretically the guild that went 4k vs the guild that won with 2k should be on a higher level

Whoever got Madness got lucky though. ded guild so its gonna be 4k vs 0

[vale pagoda]

the bonus point part is greater than the default points you gain, that is why the system is shit

[barren summit]

Atleast enemy will be easier next guild raid trust

[vale pagoda]

I believe that is max gap vs ~min gap

so 90 and 180

top 10 is currently ~1900 so if a 1800 guild (top50) can sweep, they will be in top 10

even if top10 keeps winning

that system is good on paper butthe numbers should be adjusted

[vivid ice]

What happened to madness

[mortal vigil]

disbanded

[vivid ice]

Disbanded but they didn't actually dissolve the union?

[gray dew]

I think I remember something about them not being soluble. People have had to look for other people to join theirs so they can pass leadership and leave or something? It was a while ago, they might have changed it

[glossy spindle]

Yeah but this is only a short term problem

Over time it will correct anyway

[vale pagoda]

nope, it will be worse

[glossy spindle]

If a team isn't actually top 10-20 material they will start losing anyway

[vale pagoda]

top teams wont be able to roflstomp each other so a top50/100 team will instantly join Top10 if they can get a good score

[glossy spindle]

Only in the short term, because then they will get stomped most likely against a Union much stronger than them

It will correct itself

[vale pagoda]

I dunno how long the seasons will be but I've never seen such a system in any game, and I still cant see how it will correct itself

you will always get a few of those unions that get big score difference and jump thru ranks super fast

[glossy spindle]

Right...and when they get up to a level where they can't compete they will get stomped

If they belong up there they won't

[vale pagoda]

like this week, we lost 5 ranks and our opponent dropped from rank 2 to rank 67 or something

[glossy spindle]

One big loss will hurt a lot in top 10-20

It only makes such a huge difference right now because it's so early

Only the very top unions will continuously put up big scores and they will separate

[vale pagoda]

no, that is the problem, you cant big score if you are top 10/20

[glossy spindle]

Sure you can

[vale pagoda]

you will always earn near the minimum

[glossy spindle]

Especially if you end up going against a Union that doesn't belong in the top 10/20

We just put up +2500~ in a top 20 match

Though this week was a weird one

[vale horizon]

He is not wrong when both guilds are theoretically top 10 then the difference would be like 4100 vs 4000 so you would get a ton less points

This week is cancer since the difference between a top 10 and another top 10 was who did some RTA right off the bat

[rich oar]

[karmic crescent]

Thats the prob, the ones who fight weaker guilds will always jump higher in ranks, while the top matches will drop hard no matter what score

So a top guild will never reach rank one if they face b2b stronger guilds

But i still dont get how the f**k they come away with the biggest shitshow in this game. We didnt even got a compensation, like how is this even possible. They totaly messed gw and just silence it out, this is unprofessionel, this is scammy, this will stay in mind of all players and should be a big waring for the future.

[warm cloud]

The fact that we won and went down in rank is such a weird scoring system

[oblique violet]

I mean lets be honest you would have lost this war if not for the gearing bug ngl

the fact it was this close despite you hitting around 20 naked defenses is kinda hilarious to me.

[lyric tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[mortal vigil]

[swift prism]

[mortal vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/omb-oh-my-buddha-barbie-what-the-omg-gif-10812456852955353192

[karmic crescent]

This makes absolut no sense lmao

[tight hazel]

[mortal vigil]

explain

[rancid panther]

is it starting?

[glossy spindle]

I mean it's been a couple of days and they may be away for the weekend? It's not that serious. They're not just going to ignore it

[swift prism]

... "They won't ignore it." Looks at them ignoring the inferno issue for months.

[glossy spindle]

They've nerfed inferno multiple times?

[warm cloud]

You can't say that here. That's not the narrative being pushed

[glossy spindle]

There's just so much whining and entitlement honestly. It's tiring. It's not even constructive feedback. There's no patience for a game that is what 2 months old and has done a ton of very good things. It's not perfect and has flaws to fix for sure but sheesh.

[hollow loom]

it's justified in this case though. This is not comparable to complaining about Liliam not being an overpowered unit who should have completely broken the meta, it's a serious issue which affected most unions in the game including many of the top ones

if you're telling me that not having at least one (1) person in the office on a Friday to at least address the issue publicly is an acceptable standard of community management and feedback to you then I honestly don't know what to tell you

[young condor]

The complaints have been justified the entire time and I'm not sure how anyone can think otherwise, it's been issue after issue, lazy game design, seems like they have zero vision for their game and just knee jerk react to any "feedback" without any though, absolute joke.

[gray dew]

You can always tell who doesn't know anything about ux design by seeing who demands "constructive" feedback

[vale pagoda]

"how to use AI to improve UX design"

[hollow loom]

i dont understand this toxic positivity slave mentality

it's like "the devs made a few positive changes, so now you have a quota to eat shit for a while before you are justified to complain about anything"

that's not how it works

if you make good changes and updates, you get praised and complimented, if you f up you get shat on

[gray dew]

There's also the issue that a company sourcing solutions from users is a huge red flag

You should have a strong enough internal design practice to effectively distill the essence of user feedback (complaints or praises) and come up with your own future plans whether or not someone phrases something politely or says what they think should change

The language barrier presents a pretty big challenge in terms of gathering qualitative data but there are ways around it

[young condor]

Yeah Graven, pretty much what I said that they just knee jerk react to "feedback" from the community, without having a single thought of why they should do it

[gray dew]

Tbh I think part of the problem is them refusing to knee-jerk on certain issues like there's clearly a person or group with strong decision-making power who is dedicated to keeping the game feeling extremely unnecessarily unrewarding in as many places as possible, whether that's at the highest levels (expiring, generic RTA rank reward frames, max refresh whales not being able to complete all dreamscape quests, etc) or the lowest (why the FUCK am I once again low-rolling Chaku Ring? Is it that important that I don't get to buy a couple stamina refills after my tofu and shadowprint?)

And that group or person or even maybe a different group also wants stuff like Rengo to exist as-is even though the majority of the base visibly doesn't give a shit about the intrinsic reward of overcoming these dungeons and just wants to move past them ASAP

Clearly the ember trek dungeon bullshit is someone's baby even though it's god-awful and everyone hates running around, clearly they have no idea how to design packs to the point where whales complain about not enough to spend on, etc

C alleges some grand multi year plan but won't share what it is and there's no reason to believe it'll be valuable just because it's long-term or elaborate

[hollow loom]

we buff Holden here though

[young condor]

Yeah they over-react to certain issues and then just ignore others

We just wanna PVP 😭

[young condor]

😭

[hollow loom]

the inherent problem of rng based rewards is the statistical variance which means players on the low end of the luck spectrum will get screwed on a regular basis

[young condor]

Lets not get started on the Holden buff, most braindead thing I've seen in quite a while

[hollow loom]

the only way to solve that while keeping the rng nature of the rewards intact would be to increase the average baseline of rewards so high, that the high end rewards would be imbalanced

[gray dew]

I mean you could also just implement floors

[hollow loom]

thus the most reasonable solution is simply to just remove any and all rng related to important progression items, from the events altogether

[gray dew]

100%

[hollow loom]

have rng be supplementary and related to stuff like coins & training data & chips & stuff

stuff that you're not anxious about missing out on that much

[gray dew]

Like why is the union shop the only thing that feels good to clear in the entire game

[hollow loom]

and then you can argue law of large averages in the famous c quote sense that the "rng will balance out in the end"

which is technically correct in the sense that given enough dreamscape events over a year most people will reach roughly the same average results

but that begs the obvious question of why have rng in the first place then

the only reason is Jack's stupid obsession with "monke brain neuron activation" when you add rng to every damn thing in the game

but that falls flat because on a psychological level the reaction to losing something is greater than the anticipation of possibly earning something more

youre more anxious about losing out on the red shadowprint in the ember trek wheel than excited about the prospect of gaining 2x red prints, for example

so it's just wrong on a fundamental level

probably the worst event design philosophy ive seen in 6 years of gachagaming, to be honest

[gray dew]

I don't even know if it's Jack's fault

If Sei is to be believed Jack has to convince a leadership team to make any player-positive changes and they have a strategic vision for the game that doesn't uhhhh involve a casual playerbase or a whale playerbase who doesn't also have a huge amount of time to spend clearing bullshit every week on top of playing RTA

[hollow loom]

im basing it on the discussion he had with the creators where he explained the rationale for the Dream Baaaaa shell as being more exciting when players get something more tangible as a drop instead of just the training data amount going up, together with the rng factors in most events, which make it seem like a core philosophy of theirs

[vale pagoda]

they are clueless, that is the final verdict
can anybody explain to me why we are allowed to buy a pack that includes currency to roll more on Dazzlilng event but not lets say Chaku-ring or Shell Story

why do items cost differently on every event? do they not have the math skills the just adjust the currency you gain from the event

[dusky cradle]

Cuz we don't have lattice in there ?

[vale pagoda]

but no no no, stamina must cost 100 in this event, 120 in that and 90 in another

[dusky cradle]

Possibility to get lattice fragments*

[vale pagoda]

if they are that money hungry, they would still add the same pack for every event

[tranquil ermine]

u should submit a ticket about ur unique and exclusive issue

[violet hull]

think they are trying to test to see whether Dazzlilng event generated revenue w the pack/shop. personally i like Dazzlilng bc got 2 gold lattices and some packs by only pressing a button

[vale pagoda]

from what I understand, they rotate between events that give lattices and shadowprints

like Chaku and Shellstory are Shadowprint events

Dazzla and Cubic are Lattice events

and then we have cage rumble and dreamshitscape

no comment on those

[versed latch]

game dying time to pack our bags guys

[winged charm]

The fact that it is close to pokemon masters ex is scary

No one spends there much

[barren summit]

It was 55 other day

[versed latch]

it keeps dropping like my elo when everyone decided to go gae tank in pvp

[barren summit]

I haven't tried yet to see how my teams fare in new RTA xD

Based on Fearless though I'm still fine. but that's Fearless No point climbing til last 2 weeks though cause decay is pain

[stray torrent]

they gotta put a reset token for $

im sick of these useless pve characters i had to make to clear everything from having no kloss

or ssania

[barren summit]

Still Klossless here too lmao

[stray torrent]

they gotta add something to the shop

nothing there but dupe tokens for 50

i’d rather watch my family get murdered

in game

[swift prism]

No.patience? Bro its clear they have been told directly and swept.that complaint under the rug when it came from their bigger CCs but yep. No patience...

[swift prism]

The only kneejerk fail was Revelation and if you listen to feedback everyone was saying if you nerf rev you have to nerf bruisers. And the reason rev was an issue in low.elo.was because the main complainers couldnt farm aurora rengo

[crisp furnace]

below feh? Wallahi we're cooked

[versed latch]

@swift prism its your bday?
Happy birthday
||you may take a break from complaining today, we will cover you ||

[mortal vigil]

😔

[young condor]

🙁

[barren summit]

I wanna gate keep Rengo so all these biatches stop playing bruiser

[vale pagoda]

non spenders

🙁

acutally, why is there an appostrophe in that "cc's" -_-

12h till 2x event announcement deadline, lets keep the hype train going

[barren summit]

More like 36 hours no?

[vale pagoda]

no

they are supposed to tell us 5 days ahead of 2x event

monday reset is in 12h

which is 5 days prio to Weekend where 2x event usually happens

[young condor]

Surely they don't go back on their word

🙂

[vale pagoda]

they would never

[snow lagoon]

Magic statistics

Where did he get his sample size? Discord?

I remember them saying discord is just minority of players

[glossy spindle]

There are a lot of people that can clear Rengo though

[snow lagoon]

Define a lot

100? 1000? 10000?

The only way to get any remotely usable data is by checking their data to see how many% of players have cleared it

[vale horizon]

Well it’s Monday @gleaming bramble not a weekend no more? there has still not been a single bit of coms from your team regarding this issue

[tranquil nymph]

They are working on it dw

[swift prism]

[rancid panther]

are we going to start a new war regarding the new summon event

[woven cosmos]

you know it

riot until reset event

[rancid panther]

i would like to see the details first before starting the war

but it might be too late

[woven cosmos]

stop being nuanced

this agenda: restart

[rancid panther]

stop milking me

im so dry af alrdy

summon wise

[young condor]

Can they just give us the reset event already, I'm tired

[woven cosmos]

They want to break you poet

demotivate you

keep marching on

[young condor]

😭

Imagine... they put the reset event in the summon event

[winged charm]

Reset at 2000 pulls

A lilliam guy can afford it - devs

[icy chasm]

and there is still no address for this issue

.....up

[young condor]

[woven cosmos]

bump

[mortal vigil]

u know what youd like more

EWS highlights

[young condor]

Holy, you're right

Can you link

[mortal vigil]

Hey Etheria: Restart just posted a video! Go check it out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=punccsr5a_E

you'll love it trust

[young condor]

Making a coffee first

[vale horizon]

imean kinda toxic to have it the week after the new banner

[mortal vigil]

id say guaranteed or ur money back

but XD don't even do that to the people they double charge so

[young condor]

They kinda went full mask off with this event in my opinion but whatever, it's gacha I expect no less

I can see these kind of "events" being the answer to them not making enough from no 50/50

[winged charm]

If people don't reach selector

High possibility to quit

[vale pagoda]

yeah it is not like lots of people keep spamming images and messages about this event for the past week 🙂

[tight hazel]

Just quit now tbh. Imo this type of event is just for whales, idk why f2p keep whining. There's some leak about this event too, why you can't keep your summon for a week to anticipate this?

[vale horizon]

im not talking about how we needed a leak (an accidental one) for us to know about it, more so its toxic that the devs would just tell us ahead of time

[winged charm]

If there was no leak at all

[vale pagoda]

the only people who will be hurt by this event is the ones who couldnt wait a few days to pull for Liliam 🙂

[winged charm]

It would have been just constant outrage

Those who believed the leak got saved

[vale horizon]

or those that dont sit on this discord 24/7

[winged charm]

Those who didn't will just cope

[vale pagoda]

you were both in this discord, saw the leak multiple times and still pulled

[young condor]

The literal majority of this playerbase lol

[vale pagoda]

there is no explanation to that

sorry

[winged charm]

Many still didn't believe there will be a selector event

[vale horizon]

oh its fine i have 100k ish gems so dosnt affect me

[vale pagoda]

you didnt have to believe, you just needed to wait 4 days

[winged charm]

I have like 120 ish pulls

But why to waste on perma

[vale horizon]

but im saying it was still scummy for the devs to set the summon event a week after the new hero

[vale pagoda]

yes it was

[winged charm]

When the new rgb will be right after that selector week

[vale pagoda]

I meantioned that the biggest problem was people seeing the leaks vs people who didnt

but people should understand to not have high expectations from this game anymore

just accept it as a slot machine in a casino

use your free pulls

and hope that in 6 months or maybe in a year, the game is actually playable so you can start playing seriously

until then, just small daily grind, hoard materials etc

you dont even have to do RTA to cap now, just lose 20 times fast to weekly cap

[vale horizon]

this im not building another shell untill they change some shit

[vale pagoda]

just hoard materials

[vale horizon]

i have my 4 light houses, my 2 ambers, my 4 revs etc, so now ill just wait

[vale pagoda]

it takes less than 1h to do your dailies, deplete stamina and do challanges

there is no PVE game mode to play anyways

it is just small gacha mini events

[vale horizon]

the pve stuff does not take an hour

more like 1-3 depending on how geared you are

[vale pagoda]

yeah that is why I said less than an hour

[vale horizon]

(ember trek etc)

im saying it takes more

[vale pagoda]

bro ember trek and dailies 🙂

you just run 10 shell stages, 10 gear stages

do 5 arena

everything is done

phantom theater = 4min

stupid events = 1-2min each

[vale horizon]

yea im aware of that, but ember trek and ethernet rally on reset is like 2-3 hours

[vale pagoda]

skip them if you dont want to bother

[vale horizon]

na im to competitive to skip free stuff

[vale pagoda]

then do this

[final crown]

You like my row of lighthouses

[vale pagoda]

I dont even want to waste time on phantom theater so I do it alone with my 2 acc

[swift prism]

There will be yeah

Gonna mainly depend on how many pulls

[rancid panther]

yeah

doubt it will be less than 100

but they are the one deciding. so

[mortal vigil]

probably 200 or 300

[vale horizon]

300 would be inline with my expectations from other games

ill be honest idc about the summon event, i still just want a response about gvg

since they missed the window to fix it

[rancid panther]

been real quiet

forawhile

i wonder what big movement is gonna happen

[vale horizon]

na they just gonna ignore it my guess

[rancid panther]

[young condor]

Yeah I think we'll get ignored too

[vale horizon]

they marked my issue as resolved

[rancid panther]

[young condor]

........

[rancid panther]

Wildddd

not even some HC