Liliam Damage must be bugged

[sacred meteor]

Maybe you did see in the Video that she will be a pvp monster.. i saw it otherwise 👍🏻 the thing is i dont care 😄 i buy every unit and i use her in pvp too, so for me its no problem having her.

[tardy pasture]

I didnt. Why watch it when I could be playing uma musume

[coral gate]

What you are saying doesn’t even make sense in this reply. You said it requires 3 units to carry her when that’s obviously not the case

[tardy pasture]

In his picture

[knotty sluice]

what other dps kills non squishy dps/cc?

[long glade]

Holden /s

[tardy pasture]

Depends if they are running bloodbath tbh

[knotty sluice]

obviously I'm talking about bloodbath

liliam one shots non bloodbath

what other dps one shot a well built bloodbath unit?

[tardy pasture]

Yeah only one that could have a shot is probably hoyan

[steady crystal]

she one shots bloodbath bruisers. she needs bis count. let ppl keep thinking shes bad tho. dont need her banned against tanks lol

[knotty sluice]

it's just so dumb

[tardy pasture]

Does she?

[knotty sluice]

we have a problem that stops one shots which is bloodbath

no other dps prior could

now the new dps can't and for some reason that makes her dmg bad and she's trash

[steady crystal]

she does. ill send u a vid in DMs. keep in on the downlow for now

[knotty sluice]

the fk is this

[sacred meteor]

never 😄 everyone says thats not possible and i tested it myself you cant one shot with bb

[storm orbit]

Leaked

[steady crystal]

peep dms lol

[sacred meteor]

just send it here

[steady crystal]

nah. tryna keep it on the dl

[storm orbit]

I mean you already said it

lol

[steady crystal]

and thisll get lost eventually bc this thread is active

[storm orbit]

Not sure how that makes her one shot however

[restive canopy]

can i see it, good friend? would appreciate to know the sets on ur count as well

[steady crystal]

yea lol

anyways guys

Liliams bad

pls buff her devs

[sacred salmon]

Bas posted a video day one or two of his bb sania taking 41k thru bb

[paper jolt]

oh here we go again, the Liliam cult and the anti-Liliam cult...

im too tired to even debate at this point

[long glade]

Tbf she's single target... Prior DPS were AoE. You'd think she could do something

[median carbon]

"most people" the delusional ones

[knotty sluice]

if she killed bloodbath the same ppl would cry powercreep

and they would actually be right

[gusty lotus]

Imagine lock Liam and pick 4 350 pushers

One shorting BB bruisers is ok

[compact pagoda]

they need to change 500% to 800%

[long glade]

That's a healthier meta than what we have now lmao. Atleast it would speed up games

[paper jolt]

im just gonna put it out there that other games like summoners war dont have sets like bloodbath that reduce damage. They also have a plethora of oneshot units that are capable of oneshotting ur tanks. The way that game achieves balance is purely based on gear quality; if your oneshot unit has more investment than their tank, you come out on top. Its a very simple and fair system. Theres no reason why something like that couldnt exist in this game. It wouldnt even be that much of a problem for Liliam to be oneshotting single target through bloodbath; if your bruiser unit is built 2 crit and 1hp/def, then you are greedy and deserve to be oneshot, it is what it is. Makes gameplay much more dynamic than just mindless bloodbath spam. Its much more healthy for the game

[knotty sluice]

the healthy thing is nerf bloodbath

not release only one LD dps that can kill it while all the prior dps couldn't

[paper jolt]

this I agree

[paper jolt]

this point, well, we need a transition of some sort. Its something thats bound to happen one day, and I think starting with a supposedly strong LD SSR is not a bad move

[knotty sluice]

I think it would be a disaster

[paper jolt]

its been like that for 11 years in summoners war and nobody complains about that part nearly as much as in this game

because its a contest of gear quality and strategy, not just A unit can gurantee counter B unit

when you lose because of bad gear, thats for the most part acceptible to the players

when you lose due to an uncontrollable mechanic, then its not

[upper summit]

U forgot part where summoner war is dogwater

[paper jolt]

its dogwater due to vio procs and despair stun rng

there are good parts abt that game too

[upper summit]

No its dogwater bcs game is dogwater

Its so old and bad for todays standard u are mad coping if u think that game is good for todays age

[high scaffold]

Cuz having good gear is really controllable in pvp gachas especially etheria

[paper jolt]

I didnt say it was a good game, I said that even a bad game can have good systems to learn from

I dont appreciate clowns taking words out of my mouth

please and thank you

[upper summit]

Its dogshit tho its not good, speed being as opressive as is in turn based games was always a issue and etheria solved it via sets/shells. Its a good system atm and sets are fine what they need to do is adjust interactions of specific stuff in pvp like double/triple mitigation existing

[paper jolt]

there is rng in gear, and yes it feels bad. But it is still for the most part proportional to the amount of effort you spend. Lower effor = worse gear = you dont deserve to complain as much. It wont be the same experience for everyone, but it's be kinda boring if there wasnt any rng factor at all

[upper summit]

And gear system in etheria as expensive as is, is way more healthy and better than both sw and e7

Some stats not existing on X piece of gear is what makes it healthy

[paper jolt]

lol, clown face. How about you actually try to engage in meaningful argument? I would love to hear a detailed take on the situation from your perspective, @high scaffold

[upper summit]

As well as no mainstat speed/no fixed stat on right side gear

[paper jolt]

ok, and why do you think so? (i'm not saying ur wrong or right, but why?)

[high scaffold]

Since economy is absolutely fked in etheria it doesnt matter how much time you invest. The more the economy is bad = the more rng predatory it gets. There is way too much room for lowrolling and beign stuck with bad gear in etheria than others. Pls stop talink with those clown takes and get some realistic takes

[high scaffold]

Had enough meaningful arguments tbh ur takes are just giga bad, lack critical thinking

[upper summit]

Because it leads to chasing a gear with 4/4 stats and going for high rolls. Etheria unlike e7 for example focuses more on strategy part of the game rather than stat checking, also rolls on gear are way more tame compared to similar e7 in comparison

[paper jolt]

so instead of taking the game in a better direction by advocating a fix in the economy, we are accepting that the economy is shit and instead allowing it to ruin so much potential gear variation simply because economy doesnt let us "afford to do so"?

[high scaffold]

Bruv what

[upper summit]

Its not rly fucked as ppl say its just that ppl dont know how to roll gear/indentify a good piece and waste silver chasing for much better stats than they need to have.

[paper jolt]

see, directly telling someone in the face that their takes are shit just puts you on a very low level as a human being, im ngl. You're purpose in an argument is to make the other person see your point, if even a little bit, by expanding on your point of view and EXPLAINING why the other's might not be as correct as they think. You dont just spam 🤡 emojis...
If you cant even take an argument or discussion seriously like this, I dont see why I have any reason to consider your point of view

[upper summit]

Most ppl in high rta last season didnt have red speed rolls most had almost no yellow even

Ppl have better gear in plat than ppl in mythic rta

They are just bad at the game thats all

[high scaffold]

Absolut clown

[upper summit]

Idk i personally didnt run into a silver issue for few weeks now, as soon as i hit low im back at few mil before i know it

Unless u are chasing speed purely perma u wont be dying without silver

[paper jolt]

yes, this is the kind of thing I'd like MORE in the game. Currently, it seems that the only rolls that matter in the game are speed and crit rolls. Those hp% def%, atk%, acc%, and res% rolls are all comparatively much more lacking in appeal. I think a gear system that actually can promote these substat roll importances would make the game more engaging

and this flows into the whole bloodbath shenanegans too

because maybe in the future, something like hp% substats or def% substats could make the difference between a bruiser surving the hit or not

in its current state, a purple flat atk roll is about equivalent to a blue %atk roll. So the value of these rolls really are kinda dogwater

[upper summit]

Hp% and def% are good for bruisers if they are a dps specially on slot 2/3 as only slot 2 can have hp% and only slot 3 can have def% on left side as substat meaning every type of dmg u do/scale off 1/3 slots on left side can have 4/4subs instead of all 3 which makes gear quality reqs much more tame in comparison to other turn based games where u can have 4/4 on 4+/6 pieces

[upper summit]

Depends on unit for example (rosa yes she is dogshit) benefits more from flat atk than atk%

Also eff res/eff hit rolls are good

[paper jolt]

yes, I defeinitely agree that it makes entry level requirements much more tame. However, I think it will eventually come back to bite you since less overall variation means more static strategies/interactions and less ability to vary your gear towards a certain playstyle. This honeslty depends on style that the devs want to take the game towards, I thknk both are valid, but definitely each have pros and cons

anyway, I appreciate you actually trying to have a civilized discussion unlike certain other people 👍

[upper summit]

Its p healthy long term sure speed as stat will never be healthy but thats just normal for turn based. Getting a insanely decked out dps on dmg stat is p easy in this game in comparison to other turn based. Only diff would be speed between 2 ppl in that sense, mainstats are really heavy in this game and so are set effects due to have 3 possible ones

[long glade]

Uuugh idk about that. Sure drafting skill is a big part of it but the mythic players spread gear to have a wide roster of units.

[high scaffold]

Wanted to say the same, absolutely unrealistic

[long glade]

I know I have better gear than plat players. I've seen their dog shit bruisers and I've fought high end bruisers to compare

Absolutely no way Plat peeps had better gear

[upper summit]

Better built units yes, better individual pieces no fastest single speed unit is prob a plat hardstuck i saw last season crying abt tiamat meanwhile he had 359 lily

[paper jolt]

thats probably not a gear issue, more of a lattice issue

[upper summit]

Diff between a person farming and building 15 units on average/good gear and someone wasting gear overinvesting into 1 unit just for them to not even know how to draft it is p big

[long glade]

The problem is 359 speed is useless if it gets banned. You had to spread your gear out. That 359 could have made 3 330 speeders or something. But also, there are actual skill issues

[upper summit]

Majority of last season mythic players had pissbad bruisers too

[long glade]

Still much better than plat xD. No speed tuned Lingluo Light House made low bruisers so much easier to cleave

[upper summit]

But meta was stupid and braindead in low ranks and anyone who spammed games was able to get mythic. Meta was healthy up in mythic, it certainly wasnt healthy in diamond-master which is where most ppl got stuck

[long glade]

There were a few exceptions though

I knew some plat/Dia players stuck there due to low spread of knvest

*invested units

But they had really solid bruisers if they somehow got them all uncontested

Still, they can't rise due to lack of spread

[upper summit]

Like last season dia-master was 95% rev most spammed games until they luck out and climb by outspeedi g and someone tilt queueing then u have the remaining 5% with dogshit bruisers but using lighthouse bb spam and being able to win vs those dogwater rev players that didnt build counters/draft well and just relied on spamming gsmes until they climb

Literally summarized u last season game state for average players above looked healthy only when played in high ranks, looked unhealthy af in low ranks

And since devs balance game around general playerbase as we can see units got buffed that shouldnt be buffed and rev got overnerfed

[long glade]

Yeah that part I agree with. The oooone cope I have is that the units after Lilliam will be super cleavers

So they had to buff bruisers

xD

But it looks so bad now

[upper summit]

Idk we are missing a lot for game to be healthy atm

[storm orbit]

Took 3 days

lool

[long glade]

And nerf rev

[upper summit]

Too little bruisers for 2 players, too little cleavers for 2 players, too little debuff removals, too little cleave openers

We are missing like 15 units

[long glade]

Lilliam was actually a good anti CC unit tbh. Now we have Lingluo, Doki and Lilliam. It's a lot better... for bruisers who didn't need it xD

[long glade]

Need moar cleavers for sure

I wonder if we'll get hyper carry supports that giga buff one DPS later

[upper summit]

I mean cc was oppressive last season its not that she wasnt needed she absolutely was needed, what wasnt needed is fucking holden, makoto and rahu buffs

[long glade]

Sorta like Lily

[long glade]

Yeaaah which is why if they have brains, cleavers coming soon!... But do I trust these devs...

[upper summit]

Tbh we dont even need cleavers we need adjustments to current ones, revert of bruiser buffs + holden nerf (i have 5/5/5 holden and expected a nerf)

[knotty sluice]

I think it would be better if we get more of anti bruiser dps

something like khloros but actually good

[upper summit]

Like we have the units in game but their kit gets killed by the fact bb+arena mitigstion stacks

If u add law thats triple dr stacking

[knotty sluice]

just super cleave means we go back to speed contest

[upper summit]

Which is imo retarded

If its def bssed bruiser they have def+arena 30% dr+55% bb which is stupid

[flat mason]

ouch. 26k on ling, with 5% reduction from mia. if on count + without mia passive. thats 35k+ on bb unit without any extra debuffs

obol freya already cut near 20% for the bb to proc on liliam hit so if thats counted could be higher.

survived cuz white fang > main dmg > lighthouse > whitefang > not dead 😄

[bronze palm]

thats pretty good

26k

[sage thunder]

ye

[sage thunder]

havent seen you in a while

[bronze palm]

i'm always lurking 😄

[shell lantern]

1 shot Holden with Kloss def down

[bronze palm]

must be a bug

[shell lantern]

Yeah must be

[obtuse onyx]

how?

[flat mason]

10 data stream, kloss max stacks too?

on non bb

[shell lantern]

Yeah, 2 hacking progress stack

[valid drum]

Is that max dupe btw?

The liliam

[shell lantern]

Yeah

Think she can 1 shot any def scalers with def down but not hp scalers surprisingly

[valid drum]

Sounds great to me

Do we know for sure if the locked HP reduces the effectiveness of Tiamat/Sania? I heard mixed things when she came out

[slow flame]

Amber can cleanse it

Hp seal

[valid drum]

Not sure if amber will remain meta with the wound interaction tho

Still annoying against the sania revive tho

[flat mason]

it just lock it

means

if its based on maxed health

doesnt affect it

but if its current health like tiamat

yes i g

since hp locked

[valid drum]

Ohhh yea, makes sense

Forgot tiamat's real dmg was current hp for a sec

Sad that it doesnt lower sanias heals though

[flat mason]

aye

can grind tiamat to low but not kill

and focus on sania

[cosmic niche]

Wait I thought Mia's passive only applies on herself

[flat mason]

yeah. says the translation

[cosmic niche]

Ok good to know ty

[grizzled light]

so liliam dmg was bugged after all

[mortal fog]

no..

whiners won

[fair knoll]

ggs Yodi

[visual elk]

hehehe Liliam maxed bb

[paper jolt]

well, I guess it was all worth it boys

[cosmic niche]

turns out she was bugged

[paper jolt]

no but I actually think she is bugged. Amber interaction fix when

[cosmic niche]

u wanna nerf tiamat even more? lol

[paper jolt]

nono, I mean amber pushback, she should be immune to it

not tiamat nerf lmao

[cosmic niche]

ah lol

wait that would make her even more op no

[paper jolt]

nobody's building amber on her except me lmao

[cosmic niche]

nice cook

[paper jolt]

been playing that shit since day one in hopes they fix that interaction lol

[obtuse onyx]

We won thanks everyone

[timid forge]

Dude is stirring up every Liliam thread

[sacred meteor]

Ty 😀

[stray python]

She shouldn't, deal with it and I wish they never do anything about amber and tiamat it's too annoying when u kill her and she get transformation + instant unfreeze with full HP u don't even have a chance to do something with it

[paper jolt]

Woah, somebody’s angry…
It’s a legit question, not Liliam drama bait. Also it has nothing to do with Tiamat. Please learn to read both English text and the mood before contributing your input. Thank you.

[stray python]

By the text it's u salty

[sacred meteor]

Finally they realised that she was bugged and Changed to how they introduced her 🔥

The Most importsnt sentence is.. "has not met our original design expectations" ❤️

[elder ledge]

oh man and the thing is it took them like more than a week to know this? if they could have just communicated this like couple of days after the release and just say "we are looking closely at Liliam if she is indeed working as expected. we will investigate further and let you know as soon as we finalized things".

[exotic stirrup]

The only bug listed is skill 2.

[mental cloak]

creates scary expectation and disappointment if we say that and then dont

i dont support the pvp buffing personally but I do think being silent about it until it was tested enough and a decision is made is better than doing that

[knotty sluice]

silence is the most scary thing at this point imo

[mental cloak]

eh agreed itl be better though soon

[jolly barn]

C go sleep

[mental cloak]

sorry okay i will

i keep getting pinged

[knotty sluice]

if u we look into the characater and found it's working as intended it's fine tbh

yeah gn

[mental cloak]

🤣

idk

it's lose lose with anything atp

[knotty sluice]

non of this is ure fault bro

[knotty sluice]

well I still think the community is so agitated because of the pve grind

anyway go sleep

[upper summit]

Fire whoever is doing these buffs man bcs WTF is this man

No way every top tier char is getting a buff but dogshits like borgne are being ignored

[odd sun]

im legit hype for these buffs!!

[glass apex]

How can you fire an AI?

Remember they use AI "to generate their fight info for balancing"

[obtuse onyx]

me too, i think it's enough considering theyre saying Liliam is already strong in PVP

[odd sun]

100% dam hp lock kinda crazy... not sure how pvp'rs with feel about htat. personally i think its good cuz bruser meta is ahh anyways with lots of options... liliam is one of the few counters

[sacred meteor]

Y thats annoying .. they coule have Said Guys we look into it

[sacred meteor]

I mean it was okay before to Deal with Messi/Yeli .. but now you can Deal with Sania/Tia better 👍

[sacred meteor]

Finally Boyz 🔥

[upper summit]

Dw bruisers gonna fp liliam too

[ruby marsh]

yeah

if it get through pre ban

[upper summit]

Gj monkeys on buffing something that was good and didnt need a nerf nor a buff now its cringe unit like holden

[sage frigate]

at 12 pm i think she already buff, i test on arena and cant kill obol

didnt read just now update

[obtuse onyx]

have you even tried liliam with the buff yet

[lyric glacier]

Ragnar the goat i always believed in you

You uppies werent to waste

[sage thunder]

she was S tier in rta before buffs you monkey

low S high A

[upper summit]

Dont have to since prebuff liliam was already insanely strong in rta

If u have 2 working braincells u know she is overtuned as fuck now

[sage thunder]

we need live rank confirmation on this discord

so i can block all the noobs

and save my sanity

[obtuse onyx]

if youre that mad, just pull for her man dont be shy

[sage thunder]

he has it obviously

he is not braindead

to skip lilliam

[upper summit]

I have her u donkey whole point is game is going from "choices to build" to "forced to build very few units" diversity is going to fuck all bcs of pepegas like u

[knotty sluice]

if we ever had a must summon unit so far it's liliam

[upper summit]

Enjoy playing rta tho ull see how fun it will be when enemy is fp and u have to preban liliam while they have free preban of your champ pool, that is if u got above plat

[muted imp]

iron 1 dont block pls

[sage thunder]

i cant block you

you are funny

[sage thunder]

data shows that

people who wanted lilliam buffs are bronze peakers

and are also diagnosed with clinical retardation

[upper summit]

Wheelchair changes for wheelchair ppl

[sage thunder]

how do you guys got emote for every situation

like holy

[arctic glacier]

Nitro

https://tenor.com/view/fuwamoco-no-money-fuwamoco沒錢-gif-4285280897591276328

[sage thunder]

LOL

thats actually really good

good job man

[high scaffold]

[sage thunder]

you are a legend

[upper summit]

Me with 20 self made servers for emotes

Have this too

[sage thunder]

oh

its your art ?

[upper summit]

No i just looked at emotes when bored to add

And when i see smth im like i can use this surely

[vagrant current]

pls nerf liliam

[upper summit]

Just revert it to how she was lol

[ruby marsh]

except the 100% to boss

[sage thunder]

honestly

just make this a pve only change

so casuals can be appeased

and have her perform in pve

then block casuals and ignore them until the end times

[upper summit]

That would work too

100% hp destroy is beyond ridiculous

Other turn based out for years and they dont have anything as remotely close to this shit

[obtuse onyx]

hahaha so funny seeing ppl in RTA getting stunned by liliam

thank you devs

[sage thunder]

funny thing is full dps lilliam used to 1 shot hp scalers on bloodbath

[upper summit]

Yeah i know

[lyric wedge]

Nerf liliam asap devs this isn't good buff for her

[knotty sluice]

she's breaking pve now

[upper summit]

But these donkeys dont

Bcs they cant build units for shit

Then they cry bcs their 60% crit dogliam sucks

[knotty sluice]

2 tapping every inferno

[obtuse onyx]

bruh just make another feedback thread. this thread is obv for liliam havers

[muted imp]

dogliam aint it try again pls

[sage thunder]

you are whats wrong with this game

[lyric wedge]

Bro think i don't have liliam

[upper summit]

It is when these build her

[sage thunder]

then people wonder why i call these creatures retarded

[wide linden]

All these poors complaining about Liliam now, got no money??? go play another game, wait for the next LD unit with double the dmg and now that unit is immune to all debuff and turn meter down, not just cc. Go get a better job and go play minecraft

[sage thunder]

make this a copy pasta

[high scaffold]

[upper summit]

Ppl like u are reason we need feedback regarding any form of pvp balance locked behind roles

[sage thunder]

All these poors complaining about Liliam now, got no money??? go play another game, wait for the next LD unit with double the dmg and now that unit is immune to all debuff and turn meter down, not just cc. Go get a better job and go play minecraft

[lyric wedge]

All these poors complaining about Liliam now, got no money??? go play another game, wait for the next LD unit with double the dmg and now that unit is immune to all debuff and turn meter down, not just cc. Go get a better job and go play minecraft

[jolly barn]

All these poors complaining about Liliam now, got no money??? go play another game, wait for the next LD unit with double the dmg and now that unit is immune to all debuff and turn meter down, not just cc. Go get a better job and go play minecraft

[upper summit]

All these poors complaining about Liliam now, got no money??? go play another game, wait for the next LD unit with double the dmg and now that unit is immune to all debuff and turn meter down, not just cc. Go get a better job and go play minecraft

[jolly barn]

Xiao are you poor?

[sage thunder]

nah i am gonna sell my account for 3k

and i spent 500$for it

so im rich

2.5k easy money

[muted imp]

maybe you can buy nitro then

[sage thunder]

it might have something to do with the fact that

[knotty sluice]

ok now what happens when the new LD doesn't do more dmg than liliam

just disable rta mode

go full hsr mode

[jolly barn]

All these poors complaining about new ld now, got no money??? go play another game, wait for the next LD unit with double the dmg and now that unit is immune to all debuff and turn meter down, not just cc. Go get a better job and go play minecraft

[upper summit]

Xiao gonna sell acc buy 1 year nitro and stay in server to spam and for fun

[sage thunder]

might do it

[muted imp]

hes gonna be the new sembu

[sage thunder]

what happened to sembu ?

i miss him

[wide linden]

im gonna stay here until EOS just to troll, its more fun than the game

[muted imp]

he changed name to #DoNotGiveRoadmap

[sage thunder]

do i get a phase 2 in this fight @high scaffold

[high scaffold]

depends, lets see their big announcement

[sacred meteor]

Still lower then dit

[sacred meteor]

😂😂😂

[fallow light]

wtf are these bufs

[quaint kettle]

Lower ahh?

Come again

[fallow light]

not enough

she needs to one shot terror x2

[slim yoke]

555?

Now show us aurora

[quaint kettle]

555

[versed parrot]

momentum fury furyedge count?

[vague portal]

LOL

wtf she’s insane

looks like ima have to finish my pity on here

[quaint kettle]

Yes

[versed parrot]

gonna have to farm that up once 2x drops is done

[obtuse onyx]

niiiiice lets goooo

[vague portal]

could i run one of these on her

or does she need count

[dreamy anvil]

PLEASE UPLOAD IT TO YT AND DO OTHER BOSSES LIKE RENGO AND AURORA AND SHARON PLEASE

[dreamy anvil]

AND ALSO SHOW GEAR PLEASE

[quaint kettle]

Gear

[dreamy anvil]

thank you

[obtuse onyx]

thank you!

[dreamy anvil]

hmm, can P0 reach 300k?

[sage thunder]

like 270k

[quaint kettle]

250k

[dreamy anvil]

alright

[ripe yarrow]

only 270k?

needs another buff

clearly still bugged

[nocturne steppe]

only? 🥀🥀

[obtuse onyx]

0:21 terra

nice

[sage thunder]

nice to see you here

how is rta going

[ripe yarrow]

the lilliam perma ban begins

but its just 20 minutes queues its lit

[sage thunder]

[ripe yarrow]

wow season is out anyway

pceeeee

[sage thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/k'sante-showmaker-gif-3690086547773293681

this but lilliam

[fathom current]

Rengo showcase bro

[sage thunder]

ariadne said it best

give us playable inferno rengo

to counter lilliam in rta

[ripe yarrow]

LMAO

or playable apate aniysnc

[fathom current]

Rengo next pls

[vague portal]

that means heinrich gets through

[ripe yarrow]

thats fine

i havent been banning heinrich recently anyway

[ripe yarrow]

XD got traumtised after nerfing one unit and getting backlash

so now they never nerf only buff

[queen mulch]

CAN WE GET ANOTHER LILIAM BUFF I THINK SHE NEEDS UNDISPELLABLE DAMAGE IMMUNITY FOR 10 TURNS SINCE HER KIT ALREADY LACKS AND IS PURE GARBAGE EVEN AFTER BUFF

[wide linden]

Do this to boost revenue, this guy is absolutely correct

[knotty sluice]

where is her def ignore devs?

[nocturne steppe]

where is her crit buff devs

[fathom current]

I think immune to DoT as well

[kind owl]

i can now 30 secs farm terramaton w liliam lmao

shes the new victor from beta

[stone garden]

thx guys she was already good before now she went from a nieche character to a allrounder, gg guys with your cryin u will ruin balance badly

she didnt need a buff

[vagrant current]

my first disappointment for this game as a f2p

[gusty lotus]

spread the gospel

[sharp epoch]

Lilliam needs another buff

[safe fulcrum]

liliam s2 was literally bugged.. s3 misses kills all the time, even on none bb units (always felt very inconsistent).. my liliam is very well built.. she either nuked, or didnt come close enough on units you would expect her to. this buff will make her more consistent on executing like she was designed to. however the 100% hp block is WAY too overtuned.. thats going to DESTROY bruisers.

The biggest change this game needs is preban and ban protect being at gold rank instead of diamond

[sharp epoch]

Bruisers need to get destroyed playing against triple healer bruiser comps on bb is the most cringe shit

[safe fulcrum]

actually, now that i htink about it, bb blocks so much damage. that the 100% means nothing.. thats approximately 17k damage to a tiamat.. thats like 1/3 of her hp.. not even half

so will take 2 s3's to mean anything

[sharp epoch]

If u played against a tiamat linglou sania doki all on bb and lighthouse there literally unkillable unless u spend 20 mins until they can't heal anymore

Buffing her hp block makes it less effective to heal which is overall better for the health of this cringe meta but it doesn't matter cuz they'll preban lilliam anyways

[sage thunder]

she was already very strong in this meta

high A/low S tier

eh well im tired of repeating myself

@jolly barn @high scaffold @mossy hearth sorry guys no crashout for you

im just tired of this server and its denizens

[jolly barn]

Today

For today

[sage thunder]

these people are just

so damn bad at this game

[quaint kettle]

They never satisfie

[sage thunder]

im out of this server

RTA server is my safe haven

take care guys

👋

[bitter wigeon]

@verbal lagoon he is gone for good this time

moment of silence for our goated rta player that was lost to official discords nonsense

🫡

while all of this was funny to watch

its sad that people won't get good pvp advice anymore

he was by far the most active rta player

🪦

[verbal lagoon]

[safe fulcrum]

if you have to be top 1% to make something work.. you have failed in the design department..

[lyric wedge]

Nooo xiao

Why you guys do this

[jade ore]

If you don't bother to learn from the top 1% on how things work, you have failed in the life department

[willow depot]

is this the most retarded dev team to ever exist?

[bitter wigeon]

he said he forgot to ping you

and apologized

currently dming

[lyric wedge]

[safe fulcrum]

this is a game. not life.

and most people cant emulate the 1%

especially if f2p, or not same time investment

not to mention, luck investment

[frail fable]

The game is either, tryhard enough or easy enough.
The easy route brings more money tho, since people with money usually do other things with their time, not playing all day long.

[sharp epoch]

The ego on people who act like they have skill in a autobattle gacha game is hilarious

[jade ore]

Their build isn't even that crazy. Any f2p who play decently have enough resource to achieve that

[safe fulcrum]

never ceases to amaze me

[jade ore]

But why do I even bother

[safe fulcrum]

dw/ my build is very good for f2p..

[high scaffold]

the goat has fallen...

[bitter wigeon]

he is very helpful in DM's and in rta discord

when he doesnt have to deal with this discord

probably for the better

it was really taking a toll on him

to exist here

[high scaffold]

yea I think im quittign this shit aswell

atleast blend out feedback channel and general

too many idiots writing here

it is what it is

[bitter wigeon]

its wild because

When I was talking to him couple weeks ago

I never would have guessed he would crash out ever

He is so helpful and nice in dms

this discord changed the man

[umbral carbon]

yeah 2 days ago someone hackd him

is my theory

[bitter wigeon]

LOL

he already sold his account guys

gg

[sharp epoch]

Who did ?

[umbral carbon]

a fallen veteran

[willow depot]

used my 60k gems to get 3 liliam dupes and uninstalled

retarded shit dev team

[sharp epoch]

Or u could just hop off discord and not read this shit

Shit giving me brain rot

[willow depot]

the devs give me brain rot

most idiotic ive seen since nexus

[sharp epoch]

Because they buffed a char ? Lol

[umbral carbon]

i made a post before release and told them to dont allow everyone on fedback channel just ppl who spent (at that time f2p wanted more adn more shit). I got clownd for that. But the amount of shit takes just wont stop

[bitter wigeon]

which game is that ?

[umbral carbon]

now its not money its skill issue

[bitter wigeon]

I mean what dev is that sorry

[willow depot]

long list of them, scummy practices and retarded devs

[safe fulcrum]

this is a gacha game.. not everything can get balanced around the 0.1%..

sorry..

its harder to balance than you think

this isnt real life..

just play or dont play

[bitter wigeon]

its not about 0.1% lilliam was good in my elo too and I'm a scrub

[umbral carbon]

we want no pwoercreep

how is that bad

XD

[bitter wigeon]

she was excellent here too

and I'm a noob

[safe fulcrum]

holden and rahu got buff.. there is your powercreep

[umbral carbon]

and we did critize them for that

[pale raptor]

Powered by AMEX

[sharp epoch]

I mean powercreep always exist in any gacha game nothing new

[bitter wigeon]

I would argue Lilliam buff is way worse than holden buffs

thats what most top players seem to think anyway

[umbral carbon]

yeah but usally its the dev that brings out op units and the playerbase cry about powercreep

here we have the opposite

its crazy

[flat mason]

80% clownback 20% feedback

[tardy pasture]

There’s actually people dumb enough to buy an account in this game?

[bitter wigeon]

yes

[tardy pasture]

Well good for xiao

[bitter wigeon]

We were talking about it

and apparently he spent like 500$

but when he was selling in the description he said he spent 5k$

and he got an offer for 3k$

so in reality + 2.5k$

just by playing a gacha game

[tardy pasture]

[bitter wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[tardy pasture]

And deception

[bitter wigeon]

dude outdrafted his buyer

irl

[tardy pasture]

Just the fact that the buyer was attempting to buy an account in Etheria was his first mistake

[bitter wigeon]

true

[tardy pasture]

Could have been a stack account in sw

[lyric wedge]

This game was a mistake, lets go back to sw

[raw dune]

Both are mistake you just choose which more comfy

[paper jolt]

I never understood why people crash out so hard. All that’s happening now is that Liliam feels op to about a tenth as many people who thought she was garbage on release. Sounds like that’s a change for the better…

[sly compass]

Liliam is doing too much dmg now must be bugged

[undone canopy]

First of all the buff has been out for 5 total hours, so the poisonous ramifications for RTA have had 0 time to materialize, second, every single top player of your game saying they're going to stop playing until you make significant changes is a big problem in a game that puts a huge premium on having a big flashy pvp scene

[fallow light]

what pvp scene

[undone canopy]

The PvE buff is whatever except insofar as these assholes decided to sell the solution to inferno clears

[fallow light]

we are in the process of transitioning to a PVE game

the next wuwa genshin killer

[undone canopy]

PvE is dead now too

[fallow light]

next patch we are gonna get

[undone canopy]

Liliam Restart

[fallow light]

abyss difficulty

and 2 more difficulty levels for ember so players can spend 24 hours a day playing this game

[fallow light]

its called etheria restart because you will be restarting pve until you can beat the pve boss

[flat mason]

but for real

the balancing team is on another level

i want to see their faces

[undone canopy]

I don't know if balance team deserves the heat

A lot of these changes feel like business directives

[flat mason]

the real enemy

[knotty sluice]

pve is done too

[mossy hearth]

Xiaos gone?

It's over

[paper jolt]

You forget that “every single top player” in this game is like 10 people Satisfying the majority of players seems like the more logical thing to do for any game. “Top” players complain in pretty much every game and they don’t get answers very often because that’s just not where the majority of players are. This specific phenomenon can be observed especially clearly in a game like hsr for example, where the game is clearly not very friendly to the f2p 0 cyclers. To put it bluntly, the top players just have higher egos so they feel more entitled to complain. I hate to put it that way but it’s true and you know it.

[undone canopy]

I don't forget that at all

Next

"high ego so feel entitled to complain" is not a working framework for understanding what's happening here

[flat mason]

$$$

[undone canopy]

You have to be very stupid to think this

[flat mason]

in the end ya saying

[undone canopy]

Another satisfying block for the pile

I understand the Xiao crashout in my bones, these people are so fucking tedious

[jolly barn]

Good morning
Well rested?

[knotty sluice]

anyone interesed in rta won't be happy about this blatant power creep

[mossy hearth]

Good enough to get me through the day

I'm probably gonna take a nap in the middle of the day anyways

[paper jolt]

Here we go again, the argument of “ur stupid therefore I’m right”

[mossy hearth]

No work

[paper jolt]

I hate this kind of discussion

That’s not how you rebuttal, it just means ur at a loss for what to say…

[jolly barn]

Can i Ask where isnyour Avatar from

[mossy hearth]

Isn't that just primal Kyogre

[knotty sluice]

I'm saying it's not just top 10 players

[paper jolt]

Yup @mossy hearth

[cerulean niche]

"every single top player" means once people who are in lower elo play enough games to realize it they will see how bad of a solution it was to buff liliam, this is literally the bandaid to satisfy most players in short term but it will backfire later. well ofc this is my opinion and i can be wrong

[slow flame]

Players can always be replaced - community

[mossy hearth]

Here I'll explain what's going on to qukong rq regarding Liliam

[knotty sluice]

the majority of idiots happy about this braindead buff are pve players who play like 10 gachas at a time

and jump between games all the time

aka they don't care

[mossy hearth]

Most people who currently play the game have never seen pre ban/ban protected

When a character fundamentally insta wins vs half the current roster most ppl are inclined to pre ban this character

Can you agree with me here

[knotty sluice]

it also sets a really bad precedent for future units

[paper jolt]

This is true, but think we can give it some more time. Just like how people learned how to play her, I think people will learn too, how to play against her

[knotty sluice]

how am I suppose to trust their balancing now

[mossy hearth]

The problem is THERE is no counterplay to her in a lot of drafts

[lyric wedge]

Her is a must ban now

[mossy hearth]

Her counterplay is preban

[lyric wedge]

How to play against her?

Ban it

[knotty sluice]

100% hp seal is simply broken

[undone canopy]

Correct

[mossy hearth]

Her counter is defense bruisers but she still cripples the core of the def bruisers which is the healers

[knotty sluice]

that if she doesn't one shot

[undone canopy]

People assume that because they exist they're worth arguing with or trying to convince you get a minimum level of effort and if you're too dumb to be worth the time you get dumpstered

[mossy hearth]

She will straight up go nuclear as long as you don't yeet ur s3 into holden

[knotty sluice]

she was already doing a lot of dmg vs non def tanks

now if she doesn't one shot bb healers

she will 100% 2 hit them

[bitter wigeon]

xiao left us

he is in a better place

[cerulean niche]

ig "counter" is just pure aggro/cleave but that is also easily countered nowadays

[knotty sluice]

while every other dps u can just heal the dmg

[mossy hearth]

Sauce me the rta discord

😔

I miss him already

[bitter wigeon]

he isn't like that there

just pure advice and gameplay talking

he is literally a completely different human being

[mossy hearth]

Wait what

[bitter wigeon]

yeah

[mossy hearth]

This I gotta see

[bitter wigeon]

dm me

[undone canopy]

Pure aggro cleave drafts her too

Why wouldn't it

She's now a flex sniper/team-wide hard cc

I mean she already was but

Now moreso

[fallow light]

added you

gimme the sauce too xd

[bitter wigeon]

I don't add you can dm me though

[paper jolt]

I can’t tell you what counters her either from the top of my head, but I think that’s what the community is going to figure out given some time. Probably things with atk break, strip, buff block, heavy turn meter boost for cycling your own units, and def buff could all be viable. Also, maybe this was the hidden amber compensation after it’s its interaction with heal block got completely gutted

[paper jolt]

Ya, even I think the hp seal was uncalled for. Like I said tho, I’d give it some more time to see how broken it actually is

[steep spruce]

I love how 100% seal punishes casual but not rta players

[desert sandal]

In silver everything is S tier 🤣

[slim yoke]

Hi i also dmed you

[muted dragon]

I guess being top 10 in rta is silver nowadays

[undone canopy]

You're replying to a top 3 RTA player

[desert sandal]

Only rank 1 matters

[undone canopy]

True

[lyric wedge]

He is already quitting the game and can't take it anymore, let's move on

[desert sandal]

He quit because the buff? Thats sad

[lyric wedge]

It is what it is, wcyd

[valid drum]

The guy who bought the acc reading this

[upper summit]

Wait he did?

[idle moat]

every few days I pop into this discord and its like entering a war scene lol

sucks xiao is gone, he was so helpful

but it seemed like this discord and the game overall was stressing him out way too much

[knotty sluice]

it's wasn't just him getting stressed out

[fallow light]

nah think he just rage quited and went to the rta server

[muted imp]

he says he's selling - he was also baiting chris with it earlier

[upper summit]

Too much delulus here

[fallow light]

scroll down some more

[lyric wedge]

I hope he isn't really quitting this game, we need more feedback from people like him

[stray python]

He is funny comedian

[shell sierra]

He provided good feedback but the devs ignored it

wouldn't blame the guy if he qquit

[bitter wigeon]

I think it would have been fine

If they didnt specifically ask for a feedback from him

on how to fix RTA

and he told them "DO NOT BUFF LILLIAM"

and then she got buffed 1 day later

that probably annoyed the hell out of him

[stray python]

Well at least she is not useless in PVE now

[slow flame]

He quit cause ur not aiming for mythic

[flint dock]

Buff pve is good , but 100% HP destroy is really too much

[bleak bay]

It baffles me how much people mention their rank in this discord

especially 2 months in, there’s probably less than 500 accounts on the competitive level

[wide linden]

I am high ranked (almost gold) so I know what im talking about, of course I mention it

[bitter wigeon]

my favorite memer in this discord

you never miss

[storm orbit]

Now this is the massive damage I was expecting

[umbral carbon]

this is the first community ever that begged for powercreep in a pvp game on a Premium Unit

[bitter wigeon]

I feel much better about her as well. I felt cheated before, and this feels so much better. I’m glad the devs listened to the community, and not the .1% of people who think they’re the only ones who deserve an opinion. Lots of condescension from the tippy top PvPers

[umbral carbon]

you know they have to make future LDs as broken?

[bitter wigeon]

i was just joking

[umbral carbon]

nah i dont mean you

[bitter wigeon]

somebody else typed that

[umbral carbon]

i mean the clowns

[bitter wigeon]

oh okay

I preferred them last season where they didnt budge to community whining

I hope it doesn't become a norm

[umbral carbon]

cant wait for all the f2p who cant pull LD later on

[bitter wigeon]

where they change something based on whining

[umbral carbon]

well tbf we whined aswell for other things and it didnt work

[bitter wigeon]

hm I don't check discord often

[umbral carbon]

like nerf bb maybe

instead of this lilium patch they could have just nerfd bb thats a indirect buff for her

and healthy for the game overall

[bleak bay]

I think people mind powercreep less in this game bc you can essentially get every rate up unit f2p

but it does become troublesome when it polarizes the meta

[flint dock]

I agree jin, also the pve buff are cool, but the 100% life in pvp is really too much and make her too stronger for the game health

As a Liliam lover we can't agree this. Block 3/4 HP of a stall is too strong

[wide sinew]

meanwhile in e7. "Thank FUCK theyre not another moona"

[storm orbit]

I think the PVE buffs are great but the PVP change was another very questionable decision

[untold dragon]

True, the pve buffs are great. I think everyone would've been okay with the buffs if it was only that and whatever they fixed with liliam

[wide sinew]

i think even if they gave her more hp lock

like 60-70% at most

its still in the realm of like

reason

[safe fulcrum]

ye.. 100% was just random.. but i htink they did that with BB in mind which blocks 2/3 damage

[median carbon]

so to get what we want on this game we just need to make up shit and cry about it?

🤡

if thats the case, yeli is too bad for a LD unit, buff pls

[safe fulcrum]

yeli has sucked this season though..

bruiser poopoos all over her

last season she was aplug and play at mid ranks and rev cleave

[median carbon]

exactly, buff, now

🤡

[safe fulcrum]

nah.. buff rahu and holden

and nerf rev again plz

[median carbon]

liliam only needed the pve buff line

nothing more

but i guess new unit needs to sell

to get fcked next season

with some random counter getting buff

[tardy pasture]

But buffing her directly means the casual will know about it and pull on her banner.

Nurfing bb won’t help casuals since they still think rev is broken

[fading sonnet]

i think we are missing the part where people whined for days for buffs, now we blaming devs as cash grabs? lmfao

[tardy pasture]

People have been whining for bb nurfs, rengo nurf, etc and nothing happened for those

[undone canopy]

They don't give a shit about people asking for nerfs on its own

[tardy pasture]

Bro just forgot people were complaining about rengo before Liliam was announced

[undone canopy]

Some of us still are!

[tardy pasture]

Back in my days!

[compact pagoda]

pretty sure I can beat rengo once I build my Liliam

[fading sonnet]

you can literally destroy rengo with liliam lmao tf

[tardy pasture]

And? How does that change the point

[median carbon]

the problem is "whining and get what they want" when the unit as cleary doing what see was made for

[fading sonnet]

and how does that change my point? rengo is not a character sir lol why are you comparing a nerf to that compared to my point which has nothing to do with it??

[tardy pasture]

You said the only reason they buffed her was people complaining. And that this was no way a money move.

Yet people were complaining about rengo since they got to inferno yet no nurfs happened

[fading sonnet]

Yes and Rengo is pve content which gives them no money at all so??? Why would they always cater to complaints when it comes to pve?

[tardy pasture]

So when we joke about the money grab buff it’s bad. But when you say it’s for the money it’s good?

Ok

[fading sonnet]

How is it money grab when people literally asked for it????

Is this the twilight zone?

Do you realize how many people cried they would quit because they pulled and invested in her? The chats everywhere was full of it

[candid hemlock]

Yes

You can see the same ppl complain and cry for Liliam dmg now complain she is OP and devs are moneyhungry

[slow flame]

Some people invested in other units now thinking lilliam won't get buffed

Now they are betrayed

[undone canopy]

Because the only reason they responded to the whiners was everyone and their mother saying "don't pull this unit"

[tardy pasture]

She didn’t even need it tbh

[undone canopy]

Now every search for Liliam on any content source talks about how broken she is

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Big hmmmmmmmmmm

[slow flame]

Buff massiah for pve then

Every ld dps should smack pve

[tardy pasture]

Don’t bother. Bro even said they did it for money. But it’s only bad when other people say it.

[undone canopy]

Mass PvE buff would be sick. Boss execute S2

[slow flame]

He is also pvp unit

[candid hemlock]

You will never win here @fading sonnet logic does not exist in this space everywhere here is a hidden agenda

[fading sonnet]

No seriously, this community is fcked

It's like all logic goes out the window with these people lol

[candid hemlock]

You can ctrl + f almost all of these guys to see their chat history and see them ask for buffs on Liliam

But now they invested their lattice somewhere else

[fading sonnet]

THats fucking hilarious lmao

[candid hemlock]

So nooooowwwwww it's not a good move from the devs anymore >: (

[fading sonnet]

I love it when people bring recepts lol Thank you I needed that laugh xd

[candid hemlock]

It's the crying for revelation nerf all over again

[tardy pasture]

Show mine then

Do it

[candid hemlock]

Sorry you can't read I said almost

[tardy pasture]

Trying to invalidate my argument that his point was flawed to begin with but whatever

[candid hemlock]

Oh brother who tf cares about how you feel

Go feel attacked somewhere else

[tardy pasture]

I’m not

[candid hemlock]

Nobody mentioned you specifically

Go fight another fight

[tardy pasture]

Zzz

Joking about them buffing for money is bad now

[fading sonnet]

My logic is flawed when people asked for it and it happens 😭

[tardy pasture]

Sorry queen

[fading sonnet]

TWILIGHT ZONE

[candid hemlock]

Maybe you joked but there are already threads taking it serious @tardy pasture

Again nobody mentioned you specifically if you felt attacked it probably has a reason

[undone canopy]

What the fuck are you talking about

[candid hemlock]

See love how ppl get so easily offended when they feel called out

[tardy pasture]

No it did. We were the only ones talking to the one you tagged

[candid hemlock]

I didnt know you were the only people in this discord 😮

[storm orbit]

Guys I think Liliam's damage is bugged, she's 2 shotting bosses 💀

But seriously, these devs have no clue what they are doing, it's wild to watch honestly

[undone canopy]

I'm not offended I've just never seen anything like what you're describing

[tardy pasture]

Yeah. All they needed to do was nurf bb

[flat mason]

Instead of general balancing, just make us liliam everything, especially gvg defense against most if not all bruiser setup, make it less fun for the players, make them lazy to think of a good setup because it will just get liliam-ed. get your short term revenue burst u so much want over the staffs hardwork for years for this game, just step on it & the players, so we can reach the target earlier, target of joining the EOS faction and adding XD to the dev blacklist when it happen

---

rate my doomposting

[slow flame]

2/10

Not enough

[flat mason]

smh

bring back waliant the prophet

who is the best doomposter

[slow flame]

Nah

[flat mason]

here

i wanna learn

[slow flame]

He said he never coming back

[flat mason]

[slow flame]

He also already dooming on every platform possible

[flat mason]

[slow flame]

He ascended to god

[alpine nacelle]

Nerf Liliam , so Op dmg now , was way too fine before

[river bobcat]

Complainers should stfu, all you guys do is complain, leave and play tetris or something that doesn't use the brain too much. Lackluster Liliam = complain
Bugged fixed and buffed Liliam = complain again. 🤡 You bunch of clowns you guys are not content with anything.

[flat mason]

hi cake

[river bobcat]

Hello 😁👍

[flat mason]

now

[versed parrot]

The people that asked for the buffs and the people complaining about the buffs are strictly different people

Also a lot of ppl asking for buffs wanted pve buffs, not pvp

[river bobcat]

She is not even too OP in PVP and got banned a lot in RTA. Everyone should just adjust and strategize. If she was an AOE DPS then their complain is valid.

[versed parrot]

Yeah, I agree, way overboard with the hp seal buff its just unneeded

They could also remove the extra 50% they added and just buff the boss damage buff by like 5-10% or something

But its not like theyre listening to specific feedback, even c didnt know about these changes

Its just a lot of shady, hasty decisions that seem to be made on a whim without proper communication, which has been a reoccurring theme with XD so far in this game

If anything this lilliam buff fiasco just kind of highlights the problems I have with them managing the game overall

Its not like we learned anything new here

[river bobcat]

Lol what OP is bloodbath, bruisers and CC teams they were too OP if we do not have a counter for that, what will happen? Now that a single DPS came up that can somewhat counter them, they complain? What do they want to happen? Have a meta team for all players? Can't they just ban her in RTA? Bunch of cry babies.

[flat mason]

expecting

next l/d to be gamebreaking as well

[formal holly]

Next ld will defnitely be strong

And powercreep

Thats just how it is

[slow flame]

Next LD will tank all hard pve bosses

And slap their damage back at them

Rengo eats his own damage

[river bobcat]

I played a lot of gacha games and XD is very quick to take feedback seriously and fix things as soon as possible, people think that just because they said this is the problem they will believe it as is? They will have to test everything first before they implement a fix. I think they need to hire a lot of testers too, so that they can check them thoroughly before they even drop a unit.

[odd sun]

Next ld will be an aoe rebirth/ healer

Cry about it

Hein will wlbe the counter pick

[river bobcat]

Hahaha imagine an AOE reviver those cry babies will cry again

[odd sun]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

[knotty sluice]

this has to be rage bait

[river bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-oh-yeah-yodeling-gif-17114365819735389836

[flat mason]

next unit will be when the enemy 1 shot your unit. the attacker will be the one dead, ignoring passives and reviving your teammate

[sacred meteor]

"has NOT met OUR original design EXPECTATION" .. thats all you have to read here

oh yeah .. and "data feedback".. so 2/3 (3rd crying about her damage..) is the result of buffing her

Maybe they learn from the mistake showing a PVP Unit on a Boss with the words "MASSIVE DAMAGE".. maybe they intodruce pvp with videos where the hero fights other units.. then we all know for sure its a pvp unit

[slow flame]

And in the video a bruiser counters and the highlight unit dies

[undone canopy]

You believe them if sales met expectations with her the way she was before they wouldn't change shit

[flat mason]

just sell cosmetics, for revenue

real

cosmetics

dont recolour me

[sacred meteor]

I believe them Sure 😎

[undone canopy]

I have a great investment opportunity for you but I need your credit card. Also, DM me your social security number

[sacred meteor]

Sure sec 👍 i love Investments 😎

[solid silo]

It’s funny how they clown react because they’re scared that what your saying is actually needed but it’s the only way they know how to play

[tardy pasture]

You’re such a noob man… you get his bank account and routing number

[steep spruce]

Remove the effect and bb liam become shits

A reminder she barely work with bb in pvp

Im not against speed contesting tho i rather have a 10s game over 5 min game

Only remove it once we get girl bruisers

[knotty sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/battotaie-gif-13924963106749800523