Liliam is lackluster

[peak saffron]

[vast rain]

[frosty pulsar]

well

I mean

10% innate resist

[peak saffron]

Surely u didn't put 3k rmb right

[frosty pulsar]

it's your fault you got resisted

[brazen nymph]

if u fail and hit the 10% innate, u just restart, its the name of the game etheria RESTART

[leaden marten]

i actually did

+2.5k

[flat obsidian]

That will Stay Like that.

[peak saffron]

So wait u sold ur acc for 3k rmb?

When u paid 500 USD?

[peak saffron]

[leaden marten]

nope i didnt sell yet

but i put it up for usd

not rmb

[peak saffron]

Oh ic

[compact gazelle]

You mean our sign. Turns out you're just as much in the dark as the rest of us

[leaden marten]

so in total i paid 500$ if converted from rmb

but im selling for 3k

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[marble coral]

||sell for 5k||

[peak saffron]

Making mad bank

[leaden marten]

i might try higher actually

[marble coral]

Ye

[leaden marten]

i think people are thinking the account is better than it is

[marble coral]

It's worth

[peak saffron]

Yo wtf lemme go sell my acc

[leaden marten]

cause it finished 1 win away from rank 1

but they are mad wrong

[peak saffron]

Then I'll go etheria restart

[leaden marten]

scamming my people

but you gotta do what you gotta do

[flat obsidian]

Bro.. that was necessary.. they introduced him with big Bosses and the sentence MASSIVE DAMAGE.. Not even good dmg was that.. and the 50% final dmg Show it now.. that they misslead

[peak saffron]

And grab a doki this time round

[dire jackal]

Ok pepega army u buffed smth that didnt need a buff if u suceeded in this your next mission shall be borgne go!

[leaden marten]

but borgne is bad

[flat obsidian]

They coule have Buffed him for 10% final dmg too but they saw what they did

[leaden marten]

mentally challenged people only want strong characters to be buffed

[peak saffron]

That's a weird way to say obol kazuyo lingluo and doki

[flat obsidian]

PvP ist perfect how it is 👍 the 50% was necessary.

[dire jackal]

Ye just let the army of teletubbies buff him to holden lvl and we good

[leaden marten]

#ask-staff message

i made a list of characters that noobs want buffed

[dire jackal]

U forgot yeli

[vague plover]

Can we buff oboro I’m a noob

[dire jackal]

Oh u didnt

[leaden marten]

i did put yeli

[vague plover]

[dire jackal]

Im blind

[leaden marten]

@dire jackal

[dire jackal]

Just woke up and first thing i see is liliam buff

[leaden marten]

if one day you see me going nuclear on chris and calling every noob my favorite insult

i did it on purpose to get banned

and already sold my account

[dire jackal]

[flat token]

good day to wake up

[rare belfry]

someone pls @ me when xiao is on his final crashout

[marble coral]

Ok

[marble coral]

I will call intern kun first

[leaden marten]

had to add that last line

[marble coral]

So he will leak buff patch notes before that

[leaden marten]

seal of braindead is important

know that they know this is the braindead way

they will buff them for sure

👍

[peak saffron]

I added to ur post dw

[leaden marten]

thank you !

you are very kind

[flat token]

can we have vero s2 buffed also

i feel she could use more dmg

[peak saffron]

Yea dw just another day of trying to make the game better

[stiff mango]

Is summoners war taking communitys suggestion for balance or not Xiao? Is there like a council of top players or anything like that

[flat token]

xD

you wish

[peak saffron]

Bro if we had a council of the current top players it would be no better than having none at all

Top players is like

Gold 3

[stiff mango]

I AM top 10 rta what do you mean

[peak saffron]

Sorry @late gale 😔

Pls don't ban us

[stiff mango]

Banned for innocence

[peak saffron]

He's done btw

Oh wait

U wanted a ping when he's doing his final one whoops

[rare belfry]

wdym with beign done

[dusty scaffold]

sad man

[rare belfry]

did he leave again

[dusty scaffold]

his account is actually on sale

xiao don't do it

[rare belfry]

wait what site is that

[leaden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[peak saffron]

@rare belfry

Mortdog just said treasure hunt is weak

I'm gonna crash out.

[stiff mango]

TFT also isn't a competetive game

[rare belfry]

good he isnt in dev team for this set xd

[rare belfry]

2/10

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-unsuccessful-ragebait-unsuccessful-gif-15226495446096725932

[sullen nimbus]

Who is he?

[vapid timber]

ill take a buffer yeli please make her s2 guranteed 2 procs

[dusty scaffold]

jacks husband

[leaden marten]

hold it right there

thats too far

take it back now

[sullen nimbus]

How can it be that the balancing team just listens to the community’s whining? It literally feels like the company has no personality and no idea what it’s doing. In three months the power creep will be so absurd it’ll be

[hollow plover]

so uhm what in the world just happened

they take a char that is already S tier in high rank pvp and OMEGA buff her?

cuz community reacted strongly on first few days of release?

[peak saffron]

We aren't new to this bread...

Holden incident

[hollow plover]

oh yeah holden

mb

well I mean Im eating gooooood

555 holden 545 liliam

[brazen nymph]

yea this will be the precedent moving forward, as long the masses complain they will buff

[peak saffron]

So am I but no point in us eating good if there isn't a playerbase to contend with

[leaden marten]

@final jewel @loud torrent @runic jackal @spiral pond @lavish linden read here

show me 1 person with their brain intact that asked for lilliam buffs

[peak saffron]

#general-chat

[hollow plover]

Yeah I mean Liliam was legit seeing play nearly every game in top ranks recently

[sullen nimbus]

The balancing is terrible, and on top of that it’s influenced by the community’s whining instead of statistics and professionals. Honestly, this is looking pretty bad for the future

[leaden marten]

on a side note

they are legit

buffing every single top tier unit

and not buffing any weak ones

[hollow plover]

oh doki buff when

its super needed guys

[leaden marten]

i made a list of who to buff

[hollow plover]

she is surely a weak character

[leaden marten]

but they deleted it

Doki-lily-kazuyo-obol-lingluo-sania-fuqui-yeli

are the units we are missing buffs on

[hollow plover]

yep!

good one

[peak saffron]

I made a list of other stuff that they needed to buff as well

[hollow plover]

Ill agree on this

[peak saffron]

Like yk

Bb

Insight

Sleep

[hollow arrow]

they need to buff holden again

[peak saffron]

And healing

[hollow plover]

oh yeah insight needs to be 40-100% range

[peak saffron]

Nah I wrote 160%

[leaden marten]

[hollow plover]

kaz s3 should be 2 turns

[peak saffron]

100% still too low you'll still get stunned by obol anyways

[hollow plover]

make it consistent dammit!

[peak saffron]

[leaden marten]

i literally wrote this too

in the feedback

[hollow plover]

good

[leaden marten]

lily s2 twin trick needs to be AoE

[delicate orchid]

at this point I dont think XD staff play their game at all

[peak saffron]

Speaking of which bread how bad is gaze compared to insight on bulwark bb smite jackal for lilith

It's a max roll red I don't wanna spend anymore

[dusty scaffold]

why is xiao so much more calm in game

is he lazy to type in game

[hollow plover]

on lilith its bis

[dusty scaffold]

[hollow plover]

[normal aurora]

Yeah now if you run her on BB shes a first/sec pick

[hollow plover]

gaze is literally what u want

[peak saffron]

So I don't need to roll this?

[leaden marten]

nope

lilith wants gaze

so does kazuyo

[peak saffron]

Sick I have 2 of that shell

Exact same passives too xd

[placid ingot]

Time to challenge devs to a pvp tourney

If they really play then they will accept

[normal aurora]

Base speed 128 please

[peak saffron]

Not enough

Shotty said Holden 330 base is good

[errant sphinx]

150 deal

[peak saffron]

I'll meet u in the middle

Let's do 270

[hollow plover]

[peak saffron]

🤝

[brazen nymph]

holden needs buff till he is 100% counter rate by default

[sullen nimbus]

Time to go back to Epic7. These people aren’t capable of managing a long-term competitive RTA; it’s going to be constant, nonsensical power creep. If tomorrow the community wants a buff for Kazuyo, they’ll get it

[stiff mango]

And is epic7 a good example of that? XD

Kekw

[dire jackal]

We need ranks on discord based on in game rank, ban anyone below mythic on making feedback for balance

[leaden marten]

this games rta is still goig to be better than e7

[peak saffron]

Eh id argue power creep isn't an issue

[leaden marten]

but sw is the way

if you can spend 10k$ a month

[peak saffron]

The strongest characters are release characters that just happen to prevent you from playing the game

And the ones that can purify

[sullen nimbus]

They lasted 7 years. Do you honestly think Etheria can last even half of that with these decisions? And I love the game, but the developers are terrible

[stiff mango]

But its isn't due to balance of the game

[leaden marten]

e7 just has goated designs

[stiff mango]

Literally you cannot correlate these 2 things

[leaden marten]

not rta focused game

this game is similar more to sw than e7

in its focus

etheria season 0 was better rta than anything e7 had in 7 years

and thats not a bad thing of e7

its just not their focus

[peak saffron]

Also I haven't done rta in ages what are ppl running on kaz rn

[leaden marten]

this game wants to be sw clone

[peak saffron]

Is it SPD or is it bb

[leaden marten]

not e7 clone

[peak saffron]

[leaden marten]

bb bw swiftsmite

jackal

is her bis

[peak saffron]

So this?

[leaden marten]

yes

i got 0 of those

💀

[peak saffron]

I have 3

[leaden marten]

🔫

https://tenor.com/view/ill-find-you-i-will-kill-you-taken-gif-5513044

[peak saffron]

One on Holden one on Lilith and last one on kaz ig

[errant sphinx]

imagine not having BIS shell already

[leaden marten]

sounds good

[hollow plover]

I have a fire of hatred burning for you sir

[peak saffron]

IM SORRY

[errant sphinx]

copium

[leaden marten]

how many of those you got bread

i got 0

[hollow plover]

and it's only growing for every hoyan hit that doesnt drop this shell

[leaden marten]

[hollow plover]

1

[sullen nimbus]

Man, it’s been 7 years since that, it would be a disaster lol. But how do we justify the buffs? They don’t play their own game, they don’t base things on statistics, they’re really bad

[peak saffron]

I was watching ur vid on ur account review

And u kept mentioning shells and I'm like

Oh hey I have

Infinite copies of the ones ur talking abt

[stiff mango]

You are completly delusional

[leaden marten]

okay

you need to be

removed

[peak saffron]

[leaden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-gif-19956322

[peak saffron]

Bulwark bb Evol supernova
Strive bb coloss lh
BB bulwark ss jackal

[leaden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[peak saffron]

Ok but counterpoint

I don't have doki or lily

[leaden marten]

i take all those back immediatly

[peak saffron]

Yep

[leaden marten]

[peak saffron]

My team is just a bunch of bruisers and random cc units

💀

[hollow plover]

no doki

is my condolences

especially with the buff she is receiving next patch

[peak saffron]

Yea id give some of my god shells away for a doki...

[cinder haven]

[peak saffron]

Imma need a serial high roller to get me a doki

In exchange I'll get god shells for them

Oh bread speaking of which

[rare belfry]

should I?

[peak saffron]

Did u finally find the strive bb colossguard lighthouse

For ur doki

[flat token]

this is for p5 right? 😄

[rare belfry]

nah im waiting for another army whining wave maybe she gets another flash update

[vapid timber]

personally i wouldnt unless u really want to counter cc teams

unless u dont care about upcoming l/d

[peak saffron]

She counters tia too

[hollow plover]

ofc not

[peak saffron]

Also cc teams is very popular

[vapid timber]

we're mostlikely getting supports (not nessesarily healer) on next l/d

[hollow plover]

I dont think ill ever drop it

[leaden marten]

he swapped to codex

[peak saffron]

[leaden marten]

its better anyway

[hollow plover]

and I swapped to codex

lmao

[brazen nymph]

what matrix for the codex?

[peak saffron]

Oh is it bulwark bb smite

I have that lying around

[hollow plover]

bb bulwark raid/smite

[brazen nymph]

bb bulwark smite?

[leaden marten]

swiftraid

[brazen nymph]

ah ok

[leaden marten]

technically better

[peak saffron]

Ic

[brazen nymph]

oh true

[hollow plover]

dont use smite on her its wasted

[brazen nymph]

ok time for me to check my shells too, and ill probably get disappointed

i barely have any good inferno shells T_T

[rotund sigil]

Beause she does damage after 100 turns?

[leaden marten]

who wants me to ping them when im having my final crashout

after selling my account

[leaden marten]

yes

[brazen nymph]

u can ping me

i might end up crashing out with u too KEKW

[rare belfry]

im down

dont wanna miss it

[peak saffron]

Ping me

[leaden marten]

ok will ping you 3

anyway gotta go

take care guys

[brazen nymph]

ok catch ya later

[peak saffron]

Might be asleep but I'll read in morning

[rare belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[vast rain]

bruh wtf is this

bro is getting away with actual crimes

[peak saffron]

Mf I literally sent that to u a day ago

[vast rain]

mf i literally forgot 5 minutes after i have short term memory loss

[peak saffron]

I showed u I have 2 20 speed max gaze jackal guards

[vast rain]

that can't be legal

all these insane shell rolls just to not climb rta

[peak saffron]

Iron 1 warlord bro

[vast rain]

[peak saffron]

0-120 record standing proud

[vast rain]

those points aren't gonna farm themselves

[wide valley]

Ping me ser

[robust jetty]

here we go

[vast rain]

[errant sphinx]

me me so i can have a good read

[robust jetty]

@dire jackal says Liliam should be nerfed again

[leaden marten]

tfw plat peaker gets bullied into migrating into a thread where he can find other plat peakers

[little lynx]

Diting 2:30 Liliam 2:50 huh..

[paper valley]

Who would think not having a ton of crit damage would mean lower damage

♿

[robust jetty]

dont worry, you dont even need liliam. just afk and your enemy will leave the game due to boredom

[leaden marten]

ok you arent even a plat peaker

never touched rta peaker

♿

[wide valley]

[mossy folio]

Waking up to a huge Liliam buff was not on my bingo card today 🤣

[fallen oar]

Buff is here

[robust jetty]

lets gooo

[novel panther]

why is it still shit tho lol

[fallen oar]

Must be agenda guy

[robust jetty]

tell it to non liliam havers they think liliam is so op now

[paper valley]

Gear issue, skill issue

[leaden marten]

♿

[robust jetty]

oops i summoned one

really butthurt

[paper valley]

LOL

[leaden marten]

@dire jackal

somebody needs wheelchair here

[stiff mango]

I love the etheria general chat

[novel panther]

should've been 300% instead of 100%

[paper valley]

guy is top RTA you don't think he was using lilliam before

ohright you're pve only

[dire jackal]

U are so retarded i cant

Do u see white number

[robust jetty]

another one got summoned

[novel panther]

lol

[robust jetty]

hahahaha theyre so butthurt man

[dire jackal]

My wheelchair business gonna go out of stock atp

[leaden marten]

you will be a millionare

[dire jackal]

[leaden marten]

and make your own etheria

[paper valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cadeirante-gif-12009195311408542493

[leaden marten]

[novel panther]

wew red numbah

[robust jetty]

daaaaamn

[novel panther]

different set

[robust jetty]

looks balanced to mee

[novel panther]

but 80% not critting 3x is still shit

[dire jackal]

If u have 80% crit on a st dps might as well not use them

[novel panther]

ok elitist, how much should I have? 200%?

[robust jetty]

guy is just testing builds lol

[leaden marten]

my guy it isnt too hard to say what makes her so good and how do i make my lilliam good

cause we are top of the ladder for a reason

[mossy folio]

Yes

[robust jetty]

hahaha im not even talking to you anymore. look who's a tard

[leaden marten]

now that clowning is over

im just trying to be helpfuly now

we memed enough

[dire jackal]

[leaden marten]

like

there is a reason why everybody in top of rta was abusing lilliam

[thick creek]

[leaden marten]

cause she was already S tier

[robust jetty]

guys on a wheelchair themselves selling it to people

[mossy folio]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-i-don't-hear-you-gif-9558280472791987858

[robust jetty]

♿

[leaden marten]

okay

[dire jackal]

U cant save the delusional person from their delusions, ppl like this are more likely to quit than to admit they are wrong

[leaden marten]

well see this is what happens when i try to be nice

@stiff mango

see

why i call these people retarded

[dire jackal]

I just help ppl that ask for help, didnt mind sharing my builds to ppl that asked either but its irritating af when some plat peaker clown is arguing when they cant even put modules on

[paper valley]

• points if they're using inferno pve to argue on a pvp unit

[brazen nymph]

these guys cant even think of how to build for pve, u think they gonna know how to build for pvp? LMAO

[novel panther]

testing that PVE buff bre

[mossy folio]

Balancing this game for the lowest common denominator is such a wild design decision 🤣

[paper valley]

half her kit doesn't even work on pve

can't stun unless you manual, can't delete hp, a lot don't even cc

[hasty roost]

so any yt link for updated liliam dmg pve?

[leaden marten]

#1400397399738024036 message

she does 70% of terror hp

with 1 s3

[novel panther]

nice, it was before or after buff?

[paper valley]

after

take note that's momentum

[leaden marten]

before buff she still 2 shot terror btw

[dire jackal]

[paper valley]

shh they'd say you're an elitist

cause your damage wasn't dogshit

[brazen nymph]

nah APEX characters need to 1 shot or its dogshit

[novel panther]

boss should die even with s1 1 shot

[vast rain]

insanely good reads tonight

[paper valley]

I'm saving mine for the next LD

[dire jackal]

Next ld gonna be ksante type meme

[harsh inlet]

it will probably be stronger

[leaden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/k'sante-showmaker-gif-3690086547773293681

[paper valley]

they'll release a boss arunka but people will complain she doesn't have one-shot AoE. God Boss Arunka is such a shitpost unit

[dire jackal]

Thats gonna be us next ld release tho tbf we can do the meme for liliam

Spam and hope they revert

[dire jackal]

Just give us playable inferno rengokutsu atp

[vague crest]

tbh liliam now is the ksante meme

[dire jackal]

So i can fp him to counter liliam in pvp

[vague crest]

all those bb spamer knew it all along

[hollow arrow]

next ld would be turn meter animus

[dire jackal]

Wanted to say we dont have LD bruiser

But liliam is bruiser now

[paper valley]

Give us a 0 speed for everyone unit

[dire jackal]

Liliam ksante meme

[rare belfry]

Liliam 🗣️ cc immune 🚫 massive single target dmg ⚡ 1 shots pve bosses ☠️ self sustain through lifesteal 🚑 100% stun 💫 came out pre-nerfed to be buffed afterwards 🧠

[paper valley]

100% hp lock ignore shield

[vague crest]

i want a auto win wiht the next LD unit once you pick it in draft. Just a fck you pops up on enemy screen with a lose

[rare belfry]

I forgot...

[vague crest]

who we blame this on btw

[leaden marten]

the wheelchair people

[vague crest]

silver scrubs or cc

[leaden marten]

♿

[paper valley]

some don't even reach silver rta

[rare belfry]

Liliam 🗣️ cc immune 🚫 massive single target dmg ⚡ self sustain through lifesteal 🚑 100% stun 💫 Ignore shields 🛡️ 100% hp lock 🔒 came out pre-nerfed to be buffed afterwards 🧠

[leaden marten]

this ragnar guy

[paper valley]

what if this is just a guerilla way by the guy that got obol'd on EWS so that won't happen again 🫃

[vague crest]

this is like riot listening to silver players for balance changes after they watchd pro play

[paper valley]

Damn

[vague crest]

oh shes good in pve now aswell

[leaden marten]

20 second terror 40 second aurora

40 second rengo

[vague crest]

damn auror

you got a vid for aurora?

[paper valley]

Just in time for x2

What's your rengo comp again

[brazen nymph]

not fast enough, need to buff liliam more

[rare belfry]

powercrept yeli

[leaden marten]

rip

[brazen nymph]

LOL

[leaden marten]

i think lilliam can do that actually

faster

with beyontin

[brazen nymph]

yea probably

[vague crest]

on auto?

[brazen nymph]

of course

[vague crest]

isnt beyontin ai terrible

[leaden marten]

30 second auto with lilliam

is the goal

[brazen nymph]

its terrible for general use case, but u can optimize to make use of beyo ai

[paper valley]

Massiah in the corner watching it all happen

[dire jackal]

Liliam high base hp, def, atk and base speed quadruple dmg reduction 💪 has immunity to all cc and pushback has stun that ignores eff res 3 turn cooldown on nuclear bomb that is accompanied by 100% hp seal self healing self atk and speed buff final dmg inc in 2/3 skills

[brazen nymph]

wait can we request for massiah buff now

100% ignore def please

[paper valley]

Casuals don't use massiah enough

[brazen nymph]

dang it

u are right

[vague crest]

undispell invinc buff

[steep perch]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[vague crest]

also get hima turn meter push just for the fun

[brazen nymph]

when u kill a unit with massiah, spread 1 turn invincibility to whole team

[vague crest]

reset his cd if he kills someone with ult

[hollow arrow]

massiah is a dude, he won't get special treatment

[brave wraith]

so weak, needs buff

make her S3 aoe

[tame pollen]

Wait for casuals to cry about Massiah, especially now that he's getting powercrept

[brazen nymph]

im surprised ppl didnt pull the powercreep + racist card for massiah yet

[paper valley]

Massiah is just good for hoyan now which is lost because no one cleaves

[vague crest]

how you even balance new cc units vs liliam

[paper valley]

You give them ignore passive

[vague crest]

XD

[paper valley]

The Smilegate classic

Ignore effect res, then add ignore ignore effectres

[brazen nymph]

passive to ignore passive, then new unit is ignore the ignore passive. there u go for easy powercreep

the exclusive passive gonna become an essay

[tame pollen]

A strip and 3 turn unresistable stun

[rich atlas]

just add freeze stun and slumber to massiah its easy

[vague crest]

"The skill text of your oppent doesnt matter" will be the next powercreep

[paper valley]

then people will say you're killing your game with powercreep

The classic

[rotund vine]

nah mass just needs turn refresh and skill refresh everytime he kills think that should balance him out

[rare belfry]

Had as good laugh ty

[vague crest]

they actually had a great meta going and balanced a unit perfect is the sad part in all of this

[paper valley]

Happened with Holden now lilliam

[karmic charm]

this game is broken

[paper valley]

And people still complain cause they think units are balanced at 1/1/1

[tame pollen]

Then they release a balance non powercreep hero and they cry again cuz what do you mean it's not powercreeping

[vague crest]

cant even blame devs anymore for powercreep. Consumer want it more than the dev

[karmic charm]

unhealthy

[vague crest]

how this happend is that another hoyo sideeffect

[stiff mango]

Not only hoyo

E7 also

[rich atlas]

ive been calling hoyoshills bad for this game since day 1

[leaden marten]

i think

[paper valley]

E7 had niche units to be fair

[leaden marten]

somebody can get sub 30s auto

[paper valley]

This time we have 0 niche LDs

[leaden marten]

on aurora

with lilliam now

insane

[stiff mango]

Y

[harsh inlet]

I agree but just disable rta mode pls

[stiff mango]

Just disable people from etheria only chat

[blissful gust]

next unit better be 5 round stun ignore passives character

[harsh inlet]

u can't have a pvp game where evey 3 weeks a massive power creep happens

[paper valley]

LOL

[harsh inlet]

u can make that work out in pve games like hsr

[paper valley]

Most of the people that said she was useless aren't pvp people in the first place

[stiff mango]

Especially with the ammount of this lattice income that's why people are crying for reset

[vague crest]

man dont remind me of reset

[paper valley]

Also their gearing capabilities stopped at revelation dps

[brazen nymph]

they keep saying they have ai-driven tools to test, but i dont know how they come to these conclusions, like do they not know how to read and interpret data

[vague crest]

i reset liliam now since shes perma banned for a year

oh no cant shes op in gvg now aswell

[brazen nymph]

yeap u 5 5 5 a unit just to use in gvg only cause rta will get banned KEKW

[vague crest]

they better drop smt for human pvp player soon on that C announcment

[karmic charm]

ppl so braindead all they care about is damage output. no damage = no good

[dark mortar]

lilliam was already insane for pvp

[vague crest]

not for monky that cant draft

[fallen oar]

Why TF liliam crit rate on her S2

[cinder haven]

veronika freya dinah liliam diting is doing it for me,30 secs when def break+ vuln

[leaden marten]

i meant aurora

that looks like terror

[cinder haven]

oh thats ambitious then lol

that girl is tremendously tanky for no reason

[leaden marten]

@brazen nymph

same team but with lilliam instead of diting

probably does 30-35 seconds on auto right ?

[vague crest]

doesnt this fail if you miss jsut viper or dinah debuff?

[dark mortar]

how does the hp lock work like does it make perm have lords max hp or does it cap the hp so she can’t gain back im tryna figure out if tiamat s3 will still do hella true damage

[dire jackal]

No tiamat turns to noodle

If she even survives buffed liliam dmg

[cinder haven]

is tiamat dmg locked too with the hp seal?

[leaden marten]

yes

also heinrich is better i think ?

than viper here

cause of a stronger dispel

to make it consistent

[vague crest]

safer but speed tune is harder bc no speed down

and you might get dmg to much without viper passiv

jsut a diffrent layer of rng XD

[leaden marten]

perhaps yeah actually lol

[vague crest]

liliam does more dmg than diting?

[leaden marten]

yes

[vague crest]

hmm maybe i try tsuky-mia-yelli-liliam-viper

[leaden marten]

she needs 1 s3 and 1 s2 for terror

pog

[vague crest]

it works with diting

[leaden marten]

doesnt even need lily to use s3

to reset her s3

[dire jackal]

[cinder haven]

any1 tried diting liliam ling viper dinah in aurora

[leaden marten]

49 seconds

[dire jackal]

[leaden marten]

well with hein instead of viper

but should be same

[cinder haven]

80%+?

[vague crest]

xiao talking pve now. They rly messed up pvp XD

[dire jackal]

Whats pvp

[leaden marten]

if you dont miss the dispel you should win probably ?

[dire jackal]

We all pve gamers apparently

[rotund vine]

cause devs are preparing to transition this game into a pve game like hsr

[dire jackal]

It was pve game all along

There were signs we just ignored them and coped

[harsh inlet]

the pvp was a bait

[paper valley]

they make inferno easier

then make inferno 2

[cinder haven]

y ok its working as long as def vuln lands

[leaden marten]

you got too much damage

[harsh inlet]

we already got teased with abyss difficulty on the dream scape event

[vague crest]

i rather do 7/3 fast aurora farm than 3 min 100% XD

[leaden marten]

yep

if its 40 second farm

[harsh inlet]

need op LD units to clear Abyss

[leaden marten]

thats very worth

[cinder haven]

can we riot for a reset event now xiada is useless

[paper valley]

go for 100% that's stamina efficient
5m dokidoki 100%

[leaden marten]

to only have 70%

[cinder haven]

[leaden marten]

yeah xiada is legit useless

at least yeli still is good in doki

with 40s doki

and in pvp

but lilliam powercrept her

[fallen oar]

No xiada is still top pick for no braining ember trek

[leaden marten]

i dont even think thates true

[rotund vine]

you meant rahu ?

[paper valley]

Lilliam can't get stunned by discord mob

[dark mortar]

yeli is buns now they 100% shadow nerfed her follow-ups right

she barely followips anymore

[vague crest]

shes fine for me

[fallen oar]

Is rahu doable? I think i can only brainless ember trek until 18/24 with xiada

[leaden marten]

she is great ofc

just powercrept by lilliam for rengo terror and aurora

but still great in pvp and doki

[rotund vine]

i even did hard 42 with rahu on full auto

[fallen oar]

Next reset its time to reset xiada for rahu

[vague crest]

suprised she hold on in pvp. Was sure she will be pwoercrept ez in pvp

[dark mortar]

i think all you need for ld dps on ur account is a massiah and lilliam

yeli is now not needed

[leaden marten]

♿

[dark mortar]

ima reset my yeli when i can

[vague crest]

you need options in pvp

dont reset her XD

[rotund vine]

game needs more pve content since we are transitioning

currently not enough

[dark mortar]

yeli is buns in pvp bro

if you yeli ult

[leaden marten]

stop talking

[dark mortar]

and they have holden

or tia

[rotund vine]

[dark mortar]

when they bramble proc

[vague crest]

yeli and mass are the only cleaver in this gmae

you need both

[dark mortar]

she nearly gets one tapped

massiah is much better in higher rank rta

[leaden marten]

no he isnt

you arent high rank

we are

[dark mortar]

you sure?

[leaden marten]

[fallen oar]

Please show us your certificate sir

[dark mortar]

@quartz geyser i’m not high rank

[leaden marten]

yes you arent

with those garbage takes

its clear

[vague crest]

did you by any chance gave the dev fedback on liliam

[leaden marten]

in before he shows etherena rank

[rotund vine]

[vague crest]

rank 10 server 104

[leaden marten]

he isnt in rta discord

there is also that

[rich atlas]

this is the real pvp

[vague crest]

who leaves first is the question

[leaden marten]

jin pvp me in chess

[brazen nymph]

yea it should

[vague crest]

i only pve from now on

[leaden marten]

never heard of pvp

[brazen nymph]

go finish up ethernet rally so u can get some free stability hopefully for 2x tomorrow

[leaden marten]

what even is pvp

[brazen nymph]

only pvp i heard in this game is player vs probability

[rotund vine]

its a business term ser

[leaden marten]

thank you

[rotund vine]

[harsh inlet]

I think they mean who get the higher score on phantom theater

[normal aurora]

You need s3 ling max no?

[uneven juniper]

Messiah is still meta relevant - he’s just played as bloodbath slow cleave

the def ignore and passive makes him really oppressive into tankdown teams actually

you just need to draft around him though typically with a Doki or Ling to cycle or extend his invincibility

and eventually the damage scaling lets him delete people

[dark mortar]

my guy i’m top 100 rta and i haven’t even played it that much this season was just off mythic last

dumbass

[dusty scaffold]

He left the discord

but you did prove his point

[lofty jay]

you're trying to flex on a top 5 rta player lol

[dusty scaffold]

he was rank 1 before he quit rta

[prisma pier]

Wonder what all those glazers have to say now? They spent a lot of time condescending to people here.

[stark mantle]

I see Xiao left or got banned

So I guess the liliam buff is actually op

[dusty scaffold]

he left

[stark mantle]

[dusty scaffold]

I think its for the better

most people here don't want proper advice and just want to meme and have fun

rta discord is a better place for him

[stark mantle]

Wake up to a million dms

Fun times

[dusty scaffold]

Btw do you have a fast aurora team now ?

after lilliam buffs

[stark mantle]

I havent checked

I legit just woke up and my phone has like 100 noti

[dusty scaffold]

Well morning to you good sir

[stark mantle]

Everyone is just like liliam op RTA dead what build for liliam

[dusty scaffold]

you are the only guy left who gives good advice left in this discord

ariadne is becoming xiao 2.0

bread is inactive

be our saviour

[stark mantle]

Shit at this rate I might go inactive till the big surprise patch that's saves the game

[jovial finch]

the retarded mod who never got anything right?

[stark mantle]

Nah Xiao was the #3 player last season and this season

[dusty scaffold]

not you too man

[prisma pier]

Yeah, she’s been a jerk this whole time

[dusty scaffold]

Ariadne is a she ?

well anyway

[prisma pier]

I assumed because of the pfp and name

Could be wrong though

[stark mantle]

I just got linked a video of liliam one shooting a Holden no def break

I'm going back to bed

[vast rain]

[wide valley]

Yes, don't open this discord till the time comes.

[stark mantle]

Wake me up when resets are out and they nerf her

[dusty scaffold]

Was talking with xiao

apparently in their tests

[prisma pier]

All the top RTA people said she was fine for PvP. Seems odd they didn’t just buff her for pve only. I think everyone would have been happy with that

[wide valley]

Or you gonna lose your Mind like xiao

[rotund vine]

We doing eos speed run

[dusty scaffold]

she was locking 70% of tiamat hp

with 1 S3

no def break

thats what he told me

[stark mantle]

Where's that meme I posted

[dusty scaffold]

yeah this

honestly

Just the last part about her buff would have been enough

the 50% more damage to bosses on s3

[vast rain]

yep that's what pretty much everyone that was asking for buffs was talking about

[prisma pier]

100% agree. I was one of the whiners, and that’s all I really wanted

[fallen oar]

Sry guys your sound pretty much drowned by casual who cry for her buff

[vast rain]

i mean lets be real, the changes here are kinda just a nail in the coffin to some, but the game has been spiraling for a while now

all we can really wait for now is hope they revert the pvp changes to her kit and c's announcement of the announcement to come thru

[vast rain]

i'm ngl a lot of ppl here get ragebaited way too easily by randoms that just hop in to say one thing and then never open the discord again

you know it's funny because c didn't even know about these changes

he was surpised to hear about this

what is even going on with the devs

[fallen oar]

Kinda funny c like....dev do what?

[vast rain]

[wide valley]

The devs already lose their mind

[vast rain]

c kinda feels like our only reliable line of communication to the devs and they just kinda didn't ask him or ignored his relaying of our feedback and rather just made some hasty data-driven changes based on recent banner revenue

which is in line with the hasty last minute changes they have been making to characters before release i.e. character kits being different from release

[stiff mango]

That's how companies work you give the feedback as cm but they decide what to do with it

[vast rain]

it's funny to me because they're doing everything they can to hurt both the casual and hardcore playerbase

i don't know what it is with game devs but they seem to be doing this a lot

[harsh inlet]

it's joever

[errant sphinx]

because both of them want diff thing? xD

one dont want buff another want xD

[dusty scaffold]

also

[vast rain]

like if they actually valued high elo/tier pvp feedback for pvp changes, and casual playerbase feedback for pve changes, it's a way to appease both

[dusty scaffold]

not sure if he was memeing

but he supposedly put his account on sale

[stark mantle]

Yeah he's going back to SW

[rotund vine]

Some times devs just need to tell the casuals to git gud

[dusty scaffold]

okay

thats

F

[errant sphinx]

true

[vast rain]

damn bro crashed out and just positive feedback looped to full quitting

[stark mantle]

I mean I know a lot of what was happening behind the scenes

And it is much more frustrating being in the know

[dusty scaffold]

thats fair

well I do understand after learning that

[vast rain]

was it the c going to him for specific feedback

[dusty scaffold]

apparently chris asked him for a feedback on how to fix RTA meta

and he said "DO NOT BUFF LILLIAM"

then she got buffed

[stark mantle]

It's not just that

[dusty scaffold]

he probably flipped after that

[stark mantle]

It goes further

[vast rain]

[dusty scaffold]

now I'm curious

[fleet sky]

[stark mantle]

Can't leak

[fleet sky]

devs took my uncle

[vast rain]

so... uh

[fleet sky]

I want reset event

[vast rain]

how'd ur alice pulls go

[fleet sky]

skipped

[vast rain]

[fleet sky]

Jane's fat ass will keep me content

[vast rain]

apparently she's next to get a buff

[fleet sky]

Also saving for idols

[fleet sky]

[vast rain]

oh true

[fleet sky]

no way

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-zenless-jane-doe-absolute-cinema-absolute-goonography-gif-14220265766612455326

I'll get Alice on the rerun ofc

but idols higher priority rn

[vast rain]

nah bro u gotta save for the void hunter in 2.6

[fleet sky]

depends on what they look like

[vast rain]

[fleet sky]

https://tenor.com/view/zamn-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-trigger-zzz-trigger-zenless-zone-zero-gif-1728443091206770533

Trigger baited me so hard

[mortal jacinth]

Yeah but Chris also said Xiao deleted all of the DMs before Chris could bring them to the team

[vast rain]

[vast rain]

she's still insane tho

it's just her best teammate sanby is kinda

[dusty scaffold]

[stiff mango]

Why is this like here are like actual more or less but still discussions

[fleet sky]

Not to mention most of the damage locked to the sig

[stiff mango]

But on etheria only there is like literally nothing of vaue

[fleet sky]

I just play her with Nekomata nowadays

The real RTA is discord feedback fights

[dusty scaffold]

maybe I'm stupid but

I got a stroke reading that

[fickle geode]

3 days, all it take for such a beautiful sentence to be goners.

we are heading for the vertical roads

[stark mantle]

[vapid timber]

What am i seeing here

Shit a flashbang

[fickle geode]

1 shotting def scaler without any dmg increase debuff

liliam on law build

5/5 mizuki

[vapid timber]

Viper where

[fickle geode]

viper sleeping

look at that yeli

shooked to the core

watching mizuki melt

even revelation

shooked

at that dmg

[vapid timber]

Lmfao

[fickle geode]

saying its illegal without me

[fallen oar]

I want.to say no bb then i ss tiny bb word lol

[fickle geode]

[tame pollen]

A def scaling unit getting one shotted through bb. What a healthy balanced unit

Surely they won't whine now

[fickle geode]

some will still whine. cuz dunno how to build

[wind void]

Just remember.... the discord asked for this buff

they got what they wanted

now I don't want to hear any complaining when their 3k DEF mizuki gets one shot by a fully CC immune unit

[stark mantle]

oh my mistake i should have counter played by not letting the CC immune, pushback immune, Law of silence using, Bloodbath wearing, DPS unit move so that way my tiamat doesnt get put in the hospital for the rest of the RTA season

[wide valley]

Im not asked for this buff, please revert it

[stark mantle]

[wind void]

Too late. People complained that Liliam couldn't replace their diting and now we are here

[dusty scaffold]

how is xiao doing

can't join the voice chat

with you guys

[stark mantle]

hes fine hes just annoyed

[dusty scaffold]

cool

[stark mantle]

oh we could probably move out of the vc we were just testing stuff with liliam

and breads afk

[dusty scaffold]

oh its cool dw

Busy atm anyway

Xiao was coaching me yesterday

but today he is in a bad mood lol

[tame pollen]

They're starting to notice Massiah being niche compared to the other Apex dps now

[dusty scaffold]

bad in pve bad in pvp

truly an apex unit

[dark mortar]

i’m not tryna mint to flex anything lmao

he said i don’t know nothing

so i simply let him know that isn’t true lmao

his brains fried

[dusty scaffold]

Seemed more like you had a bad take and he pointed it out

then when you got defensive saying it only works in low elo

he countered by saying you are low elo

[dark mortar]

it wasn’t a take

it was a fact

if yeli ults against a holden and tiamat

they can bramble proc and instant kill her

like what 😂

[mossy dome]

[dusty scaffold]

I mean 3 of the top 3 RTA players from last season disagrees with you

The guy you called brain fried, bread and yeon

And one of them called you out on it

all 3 of them have Yeli in S tier in RTA

they are clearly much better than you are

[dark mortar]

how does any of this change the function of bramble and the ability of a tiamat and holden together and they proc it that yeli dies

[dusty scaffold]

I don't know I'm low elo lol I would assume you need to draft better no idea

I never claimed to be good

[mossy dome]

Question is if your cleaving

why do you let holden and tiamat thorough together?

if it cause its holden>tia>hoyan>vale?

if so if you allow them to draft that its uh

[dusty scaffold]

[mossy dome]

your draft problem

[dusty scaffold]

Possibly

[mossy dome]

not a yeli problem\

[dusty scaffold]

what do cleavers ban

They have to ban a bruiser right

in pre ban

[mossy dome]

yes

[dark mortar]

…

[mossy dome]

pre ban?

tia/hoyan

[dusty scaffold]

or post ban

[mossy dome]

depends

[dark mortar]

i always just ban tiamat

[mossy dome]

post ban is usualy tia since her share dmg

or viper

doesnt work now anyway

[dark mortar]

i’m kinda annoyed i have to build milliam now

but it’s fine

[rotund sigil]

This was the take. Anything you say after this didn't really matter

[dark mortar]

yeli obviously isn’t straight buns in pvp

anyone knows that

i was over exaggerating

because of the bramble shit that’s annoying to deal with

anyways

who here has a fully built lilliam

[worthy nimbus]

Yeli is good

[dusty scaffold]

always wanted to ask

is your name rob

and is your username a pun

[worthy nimbus]

Yes

[sly hornet]

M not even gonna put this on people cause people asked for reset event before this and inferno nerfs the devs buffed liliam because it didn't work according to their intention

[mossy dome]

give it a week

feedback will be about Liliam busted

[orchid tundra]

I'm in a casual guild and the liliam buff made everyone happy 👍

they can finally clear infernos

[rich atlas]

a week lol the place was on fire 2 minutes after the announcement

[wide valley]

you sure everyone happy?

[rotund sigil]

Wait until they hit the next milestone aka rta. They'll probably sing a different song

[mossy dome]

i mean those who knows know those who ask for it well

[vast rain]

People just starting to clear inferno are gonna take a while to hit that next milestone

[static mortar]

wait what really LOL

[orchid tundra]

they are taking the marathon route

as planned

[stark mantle]

[wind void]

what makes you say that?

[coarse apex]

I’m here for the liliam buffs, I don’t understand the complaints. Rengo you’re getting clapped! 😈😈😈😈

[obtuse meteor]

My god I just hit 245k DMG with Liliam

[coarse apex]

YASS YASS!

[rich atlas]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Etheria_Restart/comments/1mkx2br/liliam_dmg_output_ub_light_lily_beyotin_nell/

you might like this

[coarse apex]

That is wild!!!!! I can’t wait to lacctice her up. No one was complaining when yeli powercrept massiah. Ion wanna hear the complaints of the buffs 🤣🤣🤣.

[mossy folio]

I don't remember Yeli ignoring passives

[peak saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

https://tenor.com/view/me-after-a-long-day-gif-9440971594322776429

[dire jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267324586769383526/1296673483622842420/therethere.gif

[peak saffron]

[prisma pier]

Can you please share the build?

[fickle geode]

gotta PM EndSeraph for that

wild tagged immediately

[prisma pier]

Only did it so I could find him. I’m a discord idiot 😅