#You literally kill a playstyle and try to get away with no reset event? Reset event or Riot!
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I was hopping for a borgne buff
she wont do shit vs bb
Hahahhahaa
Lol this is so troll
Reading this thread is entertaining
a lot of ppl doesn’t even know what they talking about yet they still keep going and being proud with their hallucinations lol
i think he is gonna lose some value due to rahu and mizuki buffs
yeah ure right
So today 799 people left
forgot about those getting buffed
Rahu and mizuki t0
seems tiamat is getting cucked too
mizuki was alrdy pretty op
who and from what
was rahu actually good in low elo ?
He will be now

Discord member count
No
oh
i see
Ye tiamat below mizuki now imo
Not bad rn
I thought like many would leave
-799 rev users 
ok how about this
people overreacting to changes as usual
rev is not dead, you just can't spam 4 rev units anymore

@crisp loom you're a dog
if it's gonna be bruiser slogfests
cauz spamming freya kazuyo rev was healthy
isnt it the oppsite you have to spam 4 bc 2 wont cut it anymore
wouldn't maybe potentially khloros would shine?
how so
in pvp not rlly
||I spammed ur defense also in gold tower for union front java this time u will go to red since asia might be still not recovering||

I think low elo will still be cleaved by Rev bc the problem in low elo is not the dmg its the speed check
i think the standart dps are still gonna be yeli and mass
rosa is not a real unit anymore
Btw they nerfed kaz because shells arent considered s1 anymore right?
fk it bb khloros
I will wait for 10 days more
Because they are dumb and don’t know rengo and aurora exists
After I get a clear idea will invest lattice
fast khloros
holden and rahu/tia
Boys, i found a solution for all of u complaning about lattices !
i dont even think khloros can survive a single counter from holden
unless holden gets like 0 crits

My holden and tia are already 6 star
Only need lattices
Will decide later
For hell kid six star is his everything now
my tia is still 1-1-1 btw
I want khloros to work so badly in rta he just looks like a demon
he needs speed to do bulwark sher
get his ult on no need to build bulwark for remaining 3 characters
but helkid is just ass no
thats the most gold elo take ive seen
plz do that it would be free wins all over the place
hellkid buffs doesnt do anyhthing
yea
no

viper exists and liliam will beat his ass
yeah helkid is basically no thing
his shield is borderline useless

heinrich,mia,viper,holden so many good dispells
you cant ban them all
and those are all good characters in meta as well
true
u wont first pick hellkid anyways
so not like pocket picks
hes anyways last pick
well his problem is
3 of those 4 characters are super meta
mia and hein in cc
holden everywhere
like it is going to be exceptionally rare to see a draft
tbh red rin buff could be meaningful
where there is no dispel
holden wont go before ur kazuyo whose ult will be useless
how that helps
i misunderstood what you said
Also now even a shell attack can wake u up from sleep
Boys, i found something else !!! so much lattices everywhere ! if u used them in the wrong place !
i go put hellkid ult on u go do kazuyo ult first ehich does ntg then u go do ur holden ult
you done yapping
Stfu bro
not sure if you realize this but obol also dispels
and you dont need to s3 into hellkid shield as kazuyo
whats wrong ? 😮

i love u bro 😮
makes her useless one character for another

Top 2 guy vs java chip
For sure after reading java is diamond 1 at best 
i am bronze


no surprised

I never have that much from you tbh dws 
secret hellkid tech

nah
do we have new kit from the sr bitc
I asked for her kit not ur opinon wether shes good or not
shes more a revelation meta support wrong launch time


why u gotta be so rude
she wont see much useage
oh wait shes disorder
pve maybe
so maybe in liliams banner
Dont worry they will cut shorr RTA by 2 months and nerf bruiser playstyle so we will go back to rev playstyle
No need for reset event
no
☠️
you were batshit insane so far
but hellkid you have point
he is going to have a strong niche

i predicted that after reading patch notes itself

his base spd vry high now
not for speed racing
if that was still low he would be useless
No he would still take care of kids
im a r3tard who completely ignores characters
Count hell kid?

Whered u put most of ur golden lattice?
even my yeli is on count
damn
i use rev for farming
then why u need reset🤣
is ur Mio latticed
rengo doki and aurora
I think hellkid will be an annoying unit you always have to keep in mind like hoyan.
s1
for speed
im raising doki now
she is a lattice swallower

sounds good
is her s1 fixed now?
lowkey
i woul have gotten rank 1 if i drafted hellkid in my last game

thats why u should have befriended me before
but see above

I talk with bug fixes everyday
ur tia is 0 lattice and u got only s1 Mio

so vero?
now ik why he didnt get that rank
massiah is raised too
Yeah i am telling you, he is not good as an early pick, but can be nasty in standard.
yeah
Vero 413?
no s1 for speed?
i use her as a bruiser
with LH?
Everytime i see freya rev i get veronika on 3 and win

well my que consist of like 6 people
and only 1 of them plays rev

Ur acct always confused me cuz u kept switching up ur strats
standart do be like that
tiamat came out of nowhere
They are forced to s1 or s2 with freya so ez haha
Damn really? I play standard so i have like 15 units ready. Unfortunatly i am not that fast, my fastest is probably 323
she is a good answer to holden
but im not even sure
if tia beats holden anymore

holden is becoming LD
doesnt really care about colors
yeah I don’t think tia beats
is ur holden max dupe
anymore after buffs lmao

no
i have no max dupe characters
but most in top 10 has
sad
wait actually my yeli is max dupe

ive rarely let holden through a draft
more like pre ban phase
even before his buffs
see bread == insta holden ban

they should ideally not go ahead with his buffs
hahaha
I’m pre happy I didn’t lattice my hoyan lol
oh right that too
Was gonna be my next project
he also beats hoyan
i usually take her away from yeon
is urs latticed
hold on she will surely be a beast next season or maybe next nexyt season 
rev 
Lol this is why ppl who just echo chamber this game is p2w won’t get better
i think yeon had like 95-100% wr against most people
except me and bread

top players always find ways to win
Hard pivot
first person to build bruisers with rev
i was proud to be the only guy with positive wr vs yeon
this is so good lmao
Why werent you on owcs bugfixplease
Rebranding in this game even ignoring lattice resets is like a month long endevour and there is no guarantee its doable to that level.
i believe in yeon
Same
I belive in serra finaly beating rengo
True
I just need to lock in
im too busy farming modules atm

Or farming Nico because its quick and I need the shell XP after I nuked all mine after the W4 tournament and trying to pivot off rev.
i fully agree just give us the basic reset, like not all are spending x amount can just pivot, resetting for refarming is what around 200$ a month?
helbish
No but see his friend said Freya was a DPS character. Surely nerfing one shell doesn't mean that all those other "DPS characters" just like her are now useless.
Hellchick
i mean she will still be fine, but if he invested lattices for sole reason of her being a dps with rev meta, i fully see why he wants the reset, since there is now other playstyles where you could use the lattice more efficient especially with the changes for turn 2 to become even better although they where good before
yeah freya will just die from one holden's auto or lose 50% if shes tanky (and then die to holden's/rahu's s3) its not gonna be her meta for a while
They should add a reset event after every season, or every other season. I agree with that. Pretending this nerf wasn't justified though is crazy.
Or just increase passive gold lattice accumulation make new achievements
And I also think bloodbath needs some tuning and or other counters, but one - two shoting tanks with supports is not the answer lol
Give union a whole gold lattice rather than 15 shards
To be quite honest, how can anyone think that a reset event every season is a bad thing? Someone might have made a bad decision or needed to level up a character they no longer use, but that was necessary at that moment. Do these people just have to go fuck themselves?
Idk what to believe anymore
I already went beyond that
Also many newbies don't start right away when server literally opens
Some start after a week
idc if they nerf rev even if my whole account is based on rev , i will farm shell and modules again but i aint waiting a month and half again for latice , we should have a event reset
And after a week even new server reset event ends
Hi, is this where we play with our poop? I chose to play cleave because I didn't have the characters to stall, and now I'm being told that I can't play cleave anymore. What should I do? Quit the game? Even an event reset won't give me the characters to play.
continue a try hard arena toi
No freaking resets is a disaster
Cleave will be fine
Cleave is already bad because of Bloodbath, the nerf will just finish it off.
plus bruiser buff
cleave didin't work against bloodbath lighthouse before the nerf
wont work after
ure still gonna cleave non tanks
that the point , it was already strugling and they nerfed it plus buff bruiser
any pro bleed players here, seems like bleed procs based on inflicted animus's atk not the inflictor's atk
non tnaks team you mean cleave cc that beat u if they outspeed and miror matchup ?
yeah pretty much
basically another cleave team or cc team
they will still get one shot by something like count mass
Of course its a speed check
idk for more casual people but at higher rank cleave cc was the most dominant and stale after , cleave was by far the weekest but still the only one that got nerf
and i dont care if they nerf it , just giving cleave player a way out with an reset event is necessary in my opinion
They didnt NERF a single cleave character
they nerfed every cleave character that hold revelation
Revelation is also still usable
cleave cc was the most dominant and stale after , cleave was by far the weekest
thats true for high elo but low elo is diffrent. They decided to balance for lower elo
Exactly jin that why im ok with the nerf
low elo was complaining about rev bc they cant farm rengo (thanks to amazing boss design)
people will understand in a few weeks that the meta will be even more toxic
Going back to the original topic, please count this as my vote to have a reset event.
I would love to have one per month.. there are so many teams that we could be building, and experimenting can only bring benefits to the game, so that we could change direction depending on our modules, metas, learnings, etc... especially when PvP is the cornerstone of this game, so reset events monthly would allow that.
Or at least after the end of the season.
i thought that was the plan to begin with according to the devs. Every season balance patch with reset 3/5 option.
nah it doesn't net them money
people leaving the game too
In other games you get callback on units for the mats after you gut a unit
people were leaving long before this, i think it doesn't really bother them
it does in my opinion
then i don't understand why haven't they nerfed rengo till this day
i can farm it decently enough but most people cant
its another issue
he is the final boss
he is etheria restart
The game's been out 2 months. We've had 2 reset events already
they should never have given out a reset event for the s.sania xiada thing that the community was 100% wrong about
and i have no doubt the community is wrong about this as well
Ppl who are against reset events don’t actually do anything relevant in the game, im convinced. It’s like being mad that your neighbor got a new car or something. If u don’t need it then why tf u so bothered someone else might?
Im with ya with that its not a must tbh they knew it gonna get nerfed even if its a lil bit too much still need no reset tbh
they are against it bc they don't want people to get an advantage. if it was them who needed it noone would be against it
wrong - i don't want them to exist at all for any reason
Did anyone ask? If u don’t want it/need it then don’t use it?
i said it before but people advocating for no reset event are the most selfish people thats crazy
do i need to be asked? it's a public forum you moron
@spare totem do you want a reset event?
someones mad
Oooooh, u got me 
they litterly come on a thread that ask for a reset just to cry about it
you only want it now because YOU need 


Even from a non meta relevant standpoint I think it’s healthy for the game if you offer like 3 resets since it lets people build other units to play with
majority of people want it that the difference
aero is always the voice of reason

36 lattices damn
Reset event means: more experimentation is possible, more options for players, it brings a fairer playground.
Why wouldn't be asking for more options for players?
Careful, Renzoth might call u a moron for making sense as well 
cause selfishness
invest in freya dps when she gets nerfed ask reset cauz investing in that was such a good idea
oh no you have something that i dont need im no happy nooo
saying "who asked you" isn't making sense though is it
I mean that’s only if you wanted to reset 3 fully built units. It’s not like you’re magically gaining 36 lattices rather just re allocating what you already earned
The reason to be against reset event is also simple: we prefer less options, we prefer a more punitive experience, we prefer waiting N number of weeks so that every choice feels like a bigger reward. I understand that.
But I respectfully disagree with that statement. That IMO isn't great for PvP. A great PvP experience should be that that rewards experimenting, learning, and trying different sets with the resources you have. Hence 1 a month makes sense.
im all for a reset event every season end but seeing it realistically - probably won't happen
Yes, at least this.
Whether it’s a public forum or not, u went out of your way to come and post something directly opposing the opinion of the majority, all bc u don’t want someone else to get something that u urself don’t want. Whether someone is able to reset a unit or not has absolutely ZERO impact on u.
It’s goofy
They solution for you and i say good take is to increase lattice rewards not reset event
u do know the top buyers will be less incentivisez to spend every season if rta reset gives u character reset every season? which is bad for the game revenue in general + it makes ppl reckless abt their lattices and every1 will jst chase the meta team every season knowing even if its nerfed well reset exists
Lattices are clearly a big part of their monetization strategy.
They release at most 3 characters a month.
If they gave everyone 3 free resets every month how long do you think the game is going to last?
first of all, it's not a majority it's like the same 4 people crying about this since the patch notes - second of all disagreeing with you is a valid form of feedback
Pointless to engage. U have ur opinion, I have mine. I’ll leave it at that.
you can't argue with them
it does have impqxt thou? i didnt invest in freya revel cauz any1 would know that thing is bound to be nerfed and jst exploiting the game? which in turn means ppl who did invest in that get higher returns this season, now u want to allow them to reset so next season its like bam we are again equal even though i invested lattice in a character that isnt dps and used her as dps to climb rank
imagine crashing out because someone doesnt agree with you 



Top spenders. Hm…
i dare you to pick that freya in master+ rta and see what happens lmao
its not broken
Imagine being punished for building a unit a way that works, and then having the devs change it so it doesn’t work anymore
XDDDDDD
That might be the most COOKED ass take I’ve ever heard
not every1 is master my friend, also revel in top elo is very less played as compared to bruisers or cc so i dont get ur point lol
a support is supposed to work like dps?☠️
Honestly dumber than anything this dumbass rage baiting goofball @spare totem has said
you know why every1 isnt? bc they couldn't farm rengo in time
Something doing less isn't the same as something doing nothing at all
I consider myself a kraken, and I disagree with this statement. I would be spending more money if I was allowed to reset at the end of the season, or ideally every month. I appreciate this might not be true for others, just sharing my personal truth.
having a different opinion than you doesn't mean i'm ragebaiting - and if you feel rage at seeing an opposing point of view i would suggest you go outside 👍
I have to say regardless that you have at least a based dog on your Avatar (all dogs ar good boys)
its less played in top elo bc it gets countered easily thats why
Sure. I don’t disagree there

if i have 40 lattices for example first season i invest them in 5 characters lets say then next reset u allow me to reset 3 characters now i have 24 lattices back even if i want to buy more lattices i would buy 16 more next season instead of the amount that i bought in first season its simple revenue
then u shouldnt want reset cauz of something that got nerfed jst in “pvp”
this all nice and all in theory
but for them to have revenue they need player retention

u used freya to push rank now u want to reset her and exploit the next buffed character like rahu without investing any new lattice on him cauz freya wrnt from being b tier to f tier due to nerf lol
Rev Freya's now doing 33.6% Max HP Damage instead of 48% Max HP Damage on an S3.
Are you honestly going to stop using her?
I don't understand how people do not realize that if they gave more reset events, then they would make more money because people would actually have the resources to build new units and therefore would have an incentive to swipe to get the character (LD units)
u won't make much revenue when most of ure player base quit
but u dont rlly need to swipe to get new characters
The player retention isn't gained from a reset events more from a general bad structures of the game, słownprogression, Brick walls, lack of progress, overtunrd farming stages, farming for not reall improvements, the game got really bad pr
even if u dont have resources to build new character u will still swipe if hes strong and build him later dont need reset for that lol
Not really this just means i can use more f2p that i need more than the others means i wont spend shit since its for free
they don't understand that this changes nothing - they'll still be able to beat teams they could beat before and they'll keep losing to teams they couldn't beat before
agreed
And how causing so much stress around building a character will make the player base drop off, exactly the way it has been.
Who cares if you can reset 3 Animus a season, you're still going to get dicked down by anyone with a properly built roster.
but if they refuse to change the economy and pve difficulty then need reset event at least
You are one of the more calm people here Batman you always Have like most balanced Takes instead of going one or other side
ppl at top will jst spend money once and get all lattices once then use reset and recycle these lattice in next season on next op team which means they dont need to spend more then one season to be at top
Check the screen Andre put here
game is bland, the whole reaction towards this new patch has been extra entertaining
thanks guys
whats that
This is one of the most toxic community I have seen in a game. God people crying for everything and are not happy with literally anything. Nerf Nerf Nerf, Rengo nerf is the only one that makes sense, rest should not be nerfed at all
@silent mortar
1st gacha community? Every gacha expect horses is like that
i will still want him to spend on lattice every zeason to be at top lol
wait until you find out most of the people crying don't even play anymore
Yeah honestly first one for me, was not expecting this lol
lets face it ppl who want reset are people who either exploited things like freya revel and invested lattice in such characters or jst bricked their account with wrong investments, revel nerf is jst an excuse
Exactly lol, reddit is filled with those, they literally say that they don't play anymore but constantly crying about things
I was to be honest overwhelmed how much bragging rights were even in full pve games
I mean your take would make sense if there was no limit to how many resets that are made. If you limit it to 3 then sooner or later everyone could theoretically reset for “36” lattices
u do know 36 lattices in this game is enough for u to build meta pvp team every season without needing to buy new lattice
Ahhhh I'm starting to get it
How did you here my dude if you didn't Play any gacha
arent you bronze tho
Yeah no reset event needed its not like some people decided to build 5 rev units cause they thought its fun....

It's just like the S Sania nonsense.
S Sania got "nerfed" and people demanded a reset event.
Then they realized she was still amazing so used the reset event to built their Shadow Sanias....
thats where the fun lies
I mean yes I’m aware but the whales here aren’t going to stop spending regardless we’re going to lattice the new units anyways
U also need more than 36 lattices to build a pvp team, 5 chars aint enough due to preban ban and deny picks or even pll who play same stuff 
Which is a good thing
Agree people forget they still a gacha game. Everything besides lattices is relatively easy to get even as F2P, even heroes game showers you with summons. Just need a bit luck or reroll at start
Exactly, the game just released like 2 months back, why not enjoy the game and just play as it is. With this patch we saw that they did listen to some of them, why not just wait. Except for rengo rest all are possible honestly, I really don't get why people need them to nerf it. What's the point of the game if people are able to clear it instantly, there will be nothing to play for
who are the DICKRIDAAAAAAAS that are trying to keep me away from my resets? 
if i give u back ur freya lattice investment that jst means 4-12 wtv amount of lattices less that u are going to buy
Can I Ask Smth because i AM curious
What do you think about all this 
I’m full tank down I haven’t invested lattice into a single cleave unit other than Yeli and messiah for pve content
I just think it’s nice to be able to offer reset events
They literally said that we would get a reset event if characters were nerfed.
This is a PVP focused game, they nerfed so many units by changing rev, therefore bricking people's accounts who invested in it, it's that simple.
devs are blaancing around low elo which is their choice
But that means I am more likely to summon and buy summon packs cause I can actually build shit
post the video
They walk around this by buffing everything instead 
Did they nerf a character? Or did they nerf the shell??? So give us shell reset than
Eventually units that don’t get buffed for like 5 seasons will completely be powercrept
if u a gambla u will still buy game knows it, i know u, u know it
Nah but about yes reset event or nah reset event 
They nerfed any character that was made viable by the shell
i think reset event is nice to have at the end of every season but limit it to like 3 resets
or even 2
🤷♂️
Now this I want! Give me 1000s of reconfig chips 🤣
true
fr i invested so much in revel shells now lets reset that too
Exactly
Eh I didn't summon on Nahor for instance
im glad they buffed the best bruiser in the game and gave tankdown players a new character with which to counter CC
That’s too much common sense to ask of these devs
if a character is nerfed jst for pvp purpose i think u should not be getting reset for that, this is my opinion u are entitled to have urs
if Bread doesn't continue to dominate the next season im officially revoking his MasterBaker title on god
cauz hes plain trash with very low useage?
hes right, dev said reset at end of rta season but dev also said "dreamscape will be the best event til date" so what will be this time
Same. I just put my extra pulls back into the standard banner
But is the character nerfed or is their purpose still there? Freya still good support, rc still good debuffer and what i know who u rev Abused
post the video
tbh it was really close
he had 40% chance to get rank 1 and won the rng roll
But also no lattice!
if i give him 12 lattices u will still not see much useage of him
But if you give me 36 Lattices I'd have pulled for him
ya thats smtg u can definitely dream
lattice is the only currency in this game that requires careful investment
u get ton of summons and gems anyways
Technically, it won't be that bad later on
But yeah right now it's relatively scarce
It's getting less scarce
but ppl want to jst recycle same lattice over and over again to build meta teams
Overtime
Which makes sense when meta changes due to balance changes
Meanwhile I log on to E7 with 400 skill up mats
Here I have to have a long think about it the character I just invested in is a good idea and will it be nerfed into the ground next season, very nice.
Yeah, reset event every 2 months is reasonable
Definitely makes me want to invest my lattice (it doesn't, I have 20 sitting there doing fuck all because investing them is painful)
jst use ur brains invest in charactets that u feel have long term useage, if u invest in characters that make u wanna dominate current season then be rdy to keep them benched when they are nerfed its simple as that
So braindead it hurts
Again not one unit got nerfed their purpose is still here if u cant think about anything else than rev thats totally on you tbh the only one i agree with is yang than they should just make a reset event for yang only
how are you saying this shit, if this game goes a long way as it states there will be 50+ characters by the end of this year. lets say 20-25 of them are meta and giving you 3 resets every 2 months or however long the season takes is too much?
upd: end of game's year, not december 31
Long term usage but balance changes means you don't actually know. What you are basically saying is invest lattice in PvE 
Wrong.
u want reset cauz u invested in freya dps how is that sensible
Tbf we won't need reset events as much by year end but right now? Absolutely
invest in long term characters, lmao thats actually a good joke when a balance patch can just render ur long term character useless
I'm not even resetting Freya though
so not only we need to invest wisely, we need to be prophets as well
Resetting Freya really isn't the play
who u want to reset then the sr characters
Also theoretically, Freya is a good long term investment
skill issue it's all I'm reading here, you can't be a prophet? your fault lol
Reeeeeee
My head hurts from reading these shit takes.
I have 2
If they gave us a reset event now I'd be using it on stuff like Dorothy 
Got 8 lattices in her I want back lol
Show me one good reason that we should get reset event since there is no character that got nerfed directly and people cant think outside of rev and make them still good
People be like: SR lattices are abundant and then wonder why they still getting creamed in RTA. Unless you whaled all purple lattice packs
who buys purple lattice packs hmm
Every rev holder got nerfed
Whales
i have 12 lying around lol
Ur takes are so bad
and youre in bronze
That's literally one SR unit
i dont need to build more
Why you building 5 rev units anyway? Build more than just one shell 
Hmm so that’s why they did not nerf any character, so they don’t have to give reset event…
good argument, i do need to build more
That's why you can't rise in RTA
the vast majority of SSR do not need to be 5/5/5, 12 can easily build 2-3 maybe 4 chars
So many good SRs though
we're talking about sr
The reason is: allowing players to experiment with different teams. Giving people more choices in a PvP game is always a good thing. Would they play meta? So what? Why are we scared of that? If anything it will make the competitive landscape fairer to everyone, where we already have enough RNG-randomness in substats and whatnot
I haven't got a single SSR that's 5/5/5
ye i like bronze what can i say
Is there a Master rank or above here who doesn't want a reset event?
oh my bad, still though 12 can build 2 up but you can be a bit more free with them
Mostly that I've seen here are Diamond below
if i want them for pvp i would always go 555 though but in the end this will solve itself in like 1-2 months, purple lattices are not a real problem
So you dont want a reset event cause of nerf but because u want to test more teams?
is there a Master rank or above who has played the new patch? most that i've seen are talking out their ass
They basically nerfed multiple characters without directly nerfing them so that they can probably use exactly the argument you did
Yes. I care about experimenting because is supposed to be a PvP game. I want to try units deeply
wouldn't say bread is talking out his ass
i believe his opinion although not blindly
I'm not getting rage baited by these retards anymore man, enjoy your bruiser v bruiser meta for the whole season
There is no downside to give a reset event to everyone, why would anyone be against it.
Some ppl here are just ragebaiting
its still brusier vs bruiser even after reset lol

So you're diamond below then, thanks for letting me know 
if u dont want that advocate for no revel nerf
Why would people pull on new chars if they don’t have lattices? This will increase sales, not decrease…
Thats no proper reason tbh thats just wanna having fun but i get it still doesnt make the reset event fair imagine than u test a new team and see its trash what u do than? Asking for more and more reset events?
They dont like veing the only ones at dia with 51 wr i think 
how did i know you'd try say something like that lmao

Reset it again lol
Like i said before the purpose of the character is still there its just people "abused" rev and now its getting nerfed they cant think outside of the Box
no wonder you went all in braindead ez mode rev spam with takes like this
they want everything on silver platter
No, they used it as it was intended
I don't rev spam btw, I just know how broken bruisers are compared to revs
who defines what is a proper reason? This is a good reason to me lol, I believe resetting a unit should be a key mechanic in the game. Because experimenting is what brings mastery... we are currently stuck
how will reset event help with changing meta thou?
its still going to be bruisers at top
How upset will you be once they give ppl a reset event?
so you admit this patch changes nothing and doesnt warrant a reset event 👌👌👌
At least with rev u need god tier substat rolls speed modules, with bruisers even with shtty substat rolls they can stomp rev cleave easily
Freya is a support unit, rc is a debuffer, celince is debuffer/sustain, kazuyo cc all thise got rev abused but their purpose is something else
No
We talked about the reason that they need a nerf to justify the reset so yeah its kinda not a proper reason
I wont its just not necessary imo
U sound very upset
Sure, but would you prefer to have RC built over e.g. Sania in bruiser meta? Don’t think so
I think i just argue normally xD
dps can also build bloodbath and they become a tank
whats your point

Yes I do. People saying urk I don't want to play long game. Bruh I will take long game were I get to play any day over getting two tap by support
That this isnt their purpose at the end its less dmg for the enemy than not my fault ig
Why not rc could stun sania with defense break and my dmg dealer could kill her
(depending on build ofc)
I don’t think I get your point. I’m saying that if you were choosing who to build, you would more likely build Sania than RC77 (you have other, better debuffers available)
Dunno - see both sides to this. In lower to mid ranks rev is an issue but in higher ranks its not. Calling for a reset for it though seems a bit off. Probably better just giving a 2x weekend for shells so people who spent time investing into the shells can get some different ones.
Ehh I did not see a single RC77 used outside of Rev in a single bruiser comp… I think there are much better alternatives to debuffers and that is exactly the reason why they should give reset event so that you can build them instead.
but u built him to abuse rev now u want to reset him cauz he cant do the role he wasnt already supposed to do?
I read too fast my bad lulz
If we can’t agree that experimenting and finding creative strategies is a core part of PvP, then we’re arguing from completely different priorities and values, so no need to continue debating. Your opinion is still valid, tho
For me, PvP isn’t just about sticking to the meta, it’s about testing, learning, and adapting. I see experimenting as essential, therefore I argue about the value of reset events
Yeah cause people only saw multi hit and rev but now since they build him already why reset him and not just using him as a good debuffer?
So if they nerf bb do I get to reset all bruisers and even dps characters that I used bb on because it made them tankier and changed their playstyle? Ppl who built rc for rev built a support debuffer. He still does what he is supposed to: be a debuffer.
He wasn’t? Why did they release Rev then in that state? You think the devs did not test it or what? They worked on the game for 4+ years
even if u write a code for 4 yrs it will have its shortcomings u should know what it intended whats not, a support doing dps numbers cant be something u expect it to be intended
Because you have limited resources and will struggle a lot in RTA until you get enough lattices to upgrade the relevant units
why are you calling "being relevant in meta" abuse? half of the units that are using rev will be D tier w/o it and its not like they're SSS with it, more like A or A+
i am telling u same guys will create same thread when bb is nerfed
good for them they shouldnt have been a+ to begin with their job is to support/debuff/cc not do tapping
Yes, why not? You get 5 resets, first free, other paid just as before. If a play style is needed, why would you be punished for choosing it before it was nerfed? You want people to not have fun?
missed my point completely alright then
Sure, then give players a reset event as an apology for your oversight. I think it won’t damage the company that much to do something nice for players
they were a+ cauz they could do taps+ their extra cc debuff wtv but was their role to tap?
blood bath is hella buffed rn do u expect them next season to again apologize? and give u reset event
they gonna revert it back next season after more ppl farmd rengo
u do it once its going to create a endless cycle
It is the fact that you are builiding units for things that aren't supposed to be their role and when that is removed you cry like the character is unusable now, while rc has lots of better options you chose to build said unit thst now still does what he was supposed to do. You cannot go and say "gib reset event for messiah cuz he cannot use bloodbath anymore", he is a dps cleaver not a bruiser tank. Rc can still use rev it is just weaker.
Yes, why not? Game is supposed to be fun, no?
Same guys, you mean the majority of top players who agree that rev shouldn't have even been nerfed?
The meta will trickle down and as more people pick up bruiser, you will all be begging for lighthouse and BB nerfs
Rev shouldn't have even been nerfed, but now that it is being nerfed, a reset event that they said would come between seasons isn't even unreasonable..
Rev should have been nerfed maybe nit 30% but between 15-20%
u can still have fun without reset? if i am rev player and i dont see why its necesaary to reset every season , u get more lattices every season its a marathon not sprint

It'll take a little bit to hit the player base but the crying over tank down vs tank down at the lower ranks is gonna be hilarious to see
It is already an issue idfk why the devs thought buffing rahu and holden was necessary for literally any reason
10% would've been fine
Who is this "majority" I am top 50 RTA and I am fucking glad rev got nerf. What was said is rev needs a nerf and so does BB.
They should have made it flat 10% maybe
I mean this is a community driven nerf so complaining about it doesn't make sense. Half the player base has been saying rev was too strong when it wasn't and just as some people are upset others are happy. The ease of access to rev was the issue as it was so easy to build into and people didn't have time to actually counter it. Now that we are a little further in rev isn't the be all end all and will be even less niche now.
Really shows they don't have the slightest clue what is going on in their game and honestly, it's very sad to see
it's so funny to keep seeing them use words like majority when it's just like the same 5 people
also who knows the new character might come and jst one tap bruisers making ppl wanna spend more on pulling for her
so who's winning the drama guys?
tbf you had problems with brusier vs rev for some reason
dunno im being ignored 😛
And somehow they have other things that they've been smart about. But they have high highs and super low lows. Ppl aren't ready about the fact that thundermark got rebranded for ember this reset.
who cares they balance for the majority so it is the right choice on their part
This community is the dumbest mofo’s in history.
Look, I’m not saying it’s my personal problem. I have 1 rev unit and it’s Rosa I use mainly for PVE. But I see many people who don’t optimise everything like me and think months into future. I did not build Rev because I thought it was going to get nerfed so whatever. But if the company wants to have as many satisfied players, they should give them a reset. Honestly, I think that many people who did it are spenders. Because if you super optimise, you can play F2P (I do and I don’t struggle with anything really, but that’s just me). But I want to understand normal players who want to just chill in the game (Yes I am talking about the 80% of people who always vote on the losing team in champions call)
The reason is just rev is overturned on support...
It sadly is still too strong cause the only counter is bb this means u cant use anything else and vice versa
SEMBU THE HERO IS HERE
Why has this thread turned into a parade of some of the world's dumbest corporate simps


i dont like the rev nerf but i fully agree with this take
It's worrying to see.
cant balance them game for 0.1% pf the playerbase
Okay but this is the point: whales complaining that whale units that only whale players built cannot abuse a super strong combo anymore. Like they'll be alright, 2 weeks they spent enough to make up for it.
You can fly to Shanghai and take their smelly old man loads directly, don't involve everyone else in your relationship
.> that isn't really all there is to counter it but feel like explaining would fall on deaf ears
Me too. I’m F2P and have 12 lattices and 85 apex pulls for new unit. But I’m ultra optimizing. You probably too. We are the OUTLIERS. We are discussing in discord lol. Most people do not and want to enjoy the game.
you all deserve nothing
But the meta always trickles down, it's not going to be 0.1% for very long
i deserve everything
rev nerf would be fine if they nerfed bb as well
That was just the short version i didnt wanna spam this chat xD and no it wouldnt i would listen 
i dont think most people have the drafting skill for that
Then it makes no difference 
Not whales, but dolphins. Whales are ok, but normal people buy pass/ some LD pulls, not 50$ packs for lattices…
rev is nerfed for low elo u cannot expect reset events fot pvp nerfs cauz that jst makes optimizing stupid simple as that
its kinda sad that you're playing this card again though - i thought you'd improved
Okay but dolphins aren't building a rc-77 for rev.
you complain for the devs to listen to you but you all make no fucking sense and move the goalposts every time just to get more free shit. crybabies

why are you so mad man

who hurt you
Really? I don’t think we have that data available, do we ?
We need to force precedents and take everything we can take. They're doing the same to us
if u give reset events every season nobody needs to think abt future jst spend ur lattices however u want cauz well next season u again resetting
Yes, you do 💪
I think the patch is great but we should get one reset
Nobody is asking for unlimited resets you wetbrained macaque
awww ❤️
Its not that great tbh all this wait for almost nothing relevant
Show me anyone mental enough to build rc of all characters specifically for rev that hasn't spent enough to afford him as a unit.
you understand that they nerfed a whole playstyle right
wetbrain macaque
how much u want then 3? thats enough to build 3 new characters lmao
my new fav insult
people that invest in rev straight up cant play the game after nerf
Yep. I think the patch is a big W overall
you guys literally are asking for a reset event every rta season end… which means you all will force the same “meta shit” every season then cry about it getting nerfed cause everyone was playing it
the patch hasne even been out
i invested in rev i can still play
you don't think the people who reset this season and pivot to BB bruiser will be here crying for the same thing next season when BB gets nerfed?
Sounds good to me 
you are bronze tho

is that playing
Java why are u joining revolution suddenly u got inspired by pokke I see

he’s dis 51 wr btw
I think they will and that's a good thing and they'll be right to do it
cauz ppl always gotta feel entitled 🤣
rip i was trolled
Would not call this super simple… even with limited time reset event, you would be able to reset few characters and it will cost you gems. And really, what is so bad about people actually having good units built? I want to play against people with good units built, not people with suboptimal builds. Where is the satisfaction in beating them then?
and he build rev
arent dia all kinda clueless when it comes to counter rev 

Wait why am I tagged in this thread
look u sacrificed some rank to not invest lattices in character that were not supposed to be dps but were working as dps now the same ppl want free pass its like u are back at square one even though u were optimizing?

You get to laugh at them cuz they full inted their acc with a overtuned dmg mechanic that everyone could see would get nerfed 
yeah I also agree but they needed to do more
Not just a monkey but an alcoholic monkey. The insults get even better 🤣
ye
Cause of ur lighthouse video
Someone replied to your message somewhere

It became a discussion at start lmao
I think it was quite popular strategy I saw pretty often? Especially after EWS? But I have no idea how much people spent if they don’t explicitly state it. And it’s not just about rc77 lol, he was just an example
U should make one for rev also
Someone called you out for your bloodbath video then deleted the tag lol
i mean the counter to rev is literally just getting one turn and super easy to build things like lighthouse marvel to send them back after one turn. Most rev units dont 1 shot your whole team outside of say yeli, messiah (Shouldn't be on rev anyway imo) and maybe an invested Rosa even without running bloodbath. There is a lot more ways this is just one example but yea.
Every other unit is still useable with the investment they made tho.
Yeah looks like ppl were talking smack
yeah fuck peace, keep the drama boys
But aren't we just talking to a wall guys
The hardest part are the shitty low elo takes on pvp T_T
Crazy ppl are dissing me for only being master 2 when I did rta probably 3-5 days total in season 0

everyone complaining making drama, meanwhile XD enjoying a sip of coffee
We should wait another day they might hit us with more information like they always do
I didn't invest into pvp because of this balance patch which is why I didn't build a single rev on my acc
I think that you will still have upper hand as you optimise in other areas of game too. Modules, shells, pulls etc. I get what you mean, but you can use the reset event too. Maybe you randomly got Yeli from standard and have already Rosa built? (My case lol) - you benefit too. Just use it to benefit even more and give other people some chance too. They are most likely not going to compete for Mythic rank anyway
I can get to mythic from 0 in one day so what’s your point 
Yeah most people use bb with lighthouse (and maybe some amber) to counter rev specifically and thats kinda sad since i cant survive without lighthouse and bb on gigabyte idk anything else and this makes the gameplay not fun aswell so a nerf was imo good if its too much? Yes. Should they nerf bb aswell? Yes.

U go fight with bread now
YEAH KEEP FIGHTING BOYS
Why is this game so toxic
see i have 12 lattices into yeli 8 into rosa i still use them a lot for pve so eben with reset event i am not resetting those two , ppl wjo want reset event want to reset charactets like freya/yang etc who they used to abuse dps
i mean hoyan counters rev by herself
PvP
Its a gacha game
It ain't player vs player only it's people vs people and person vs person
the problem is pvp not gacha -pvpers are notoriously toxic literally anywhere
Well that’s not what makes me happy, if that’s your definition of fun, then we probably can’t understand each other :/
Everyone intuition will not match
not every1 will have same wavelength u jst accept that
just cause most people use bb and lighthouse doesn't mean its the only way to build units.
Go back to ur rengo grind. If u dont have 3 LH by the time GvG start u wont receive ur reward 
Team reset can't align with Team no-reset. It's just two completely different camps
I Play for fun and invest into characters i like design wise
This is a crazy take tbh. I built one rev because I could see this coming but punishing people for building around a mechanic on your game is just wild
And ill send u to uganda relic 
yeah i need to farm lighthouse now

Yes I don’t disagree, but still, I think it’s better for all of us, if these players get the reset event. If they leave the game, we all lose.
rewarding people for trying to go all in on a clearly broken mechanic is even wilder
Nah it isnt i love hoyan cause of this but i tried to fight with bruiser against rev without bb its not possible mostly as u said vs yeli and massiah but sometimes even freya what is no fun
if reset game loses revenue they push other ways to monetise maybe make content harder for normal ppl to curb the reset losses?
Funny thing to me is that they would make more money with resets and players would be happy, just with the same reset event we had before.
Also I don't get it i have 6 chars with bloodbath
There are plenty of other ways to make revenue, like skins, releasing units and selling good packs
Even harder? I think it’s hard enough
Just because they offer 3 resets doesn’t mean the game isn’t going to make revenue
their highest income probably(guess) is lattice packs rn why will they fxk that up🤣
Because they could just sell more expensive packs with better shit in it
u gotta make a living u have developers to pay rent to pay etc
I don't think we should get a reset

Devs know best
i miss pann's random gif
wait arent you the guy taht is all in on bruiser XD
we all can sit here and argue at the end the devs will do what they feel like so
too bad he quit the game
if mr trueevil said so then i agree
If you paid for lattices when you could've gotten the new donkey Kong game that's on you

Yes but I think the difference here is between laughing at your enemies for making an apparently wrong choice (investing into Rev) vs having fun while playing fair matches and being a good sport.
what if i got the new mario kart instead
Yes pann “quit” 
Yes all the ews whales publicly said in YouTube video that they only buy packs with lattice in them. I do the same as a whale.
Before a min u said we need 1 reset now u changed the thing so fast 
Bloodbath?
yip they do reset means less lattices need to be bought every season
People are just selfish and short sighted., it is what it is.
If you got the new Mario kart instead that just means you can play Mario kart with me 🙂
Hard to make a living if people just leave the game. Long term, it’s better to give a reset event here and then, the people will spend much more than you lose that way. If that was not true, the game would not be F2P friendly at all
letsgoooo
Exactly. Being a good sport is: Team Reset. I agree with your takes
dont promise me a good time
Guys listen
He didnt get bribed than
short sighted is u building freya rc on rev then wanting reset for that🤣
Especially after they said it was working as intended in a big promoted official messaging video
guys listen to mr trueevil he knows best
Okay bro
this game is literally one of the most f2p friendly games out there, only thing which is hard to obtain in this game is lattice
It's clear your brain doesn't work correctly
u joking right?
post video with timestamp pls
And than they saw kekker getting massacred by freya rev 

Why do you have a woman bimbo on Avatar?
Ah yes the person that releases a video saying fuqui is trash and then immediately releases a video saying she’s broken 
Most Etheria content creators are so ass lmfao
They set that up by giving some rando rich freak a dev account 
So true. Every lattice could have been a new horse girl in umamusume 
wait is he that guy

I got a max rahu and holden so im gonna be eating good so if I lose 4 lattices because of hoyan it's ok
Which one do you reccomend/like
- if you super optimise. There are whales who have worse account as me as F2P. Or Volkin, Barcode etc… but that’s not the point, average player will rather spend than super optimise
Seiishizo and bread are really the only decent content creators
I didn't invest into hoyan solely to farm rev users, I invested into hoyan because she deserves it since she's the only attractive waifu in this video game
Yep 
are u goinf to keep giving them get out of jail free card every season?
Shame on you dig you grave. Tia is best waifu
Hell yes
Since he is jailer maybe
you should not feel like you are in jail playing a game… 🙃
Seishizo is completly out of touch how gacha playerbase looks like and what a game needs to be sustainable and bread yeah is pretty good CC if you are interested in high.lvl rta
well then go harder on him @spiral plank
is this related to the fact she has her bare feet out
u should know this game is hard its not candy crush that u make any decisions and keep resetting lol
I would if I cared about the opinions of content creators 

⏸️
Most content for this game is just rage bait

I'm folding laundry rn, you should try washing your clothes and then doing the same thing some day. They'll smell better
let me smell u then come
Yeah this brings the most click
Sure thing
Lemme join the dream world
no threeways
Its funny hiw we wanted to kill us like 10 min ago and now we joke around

Hoyan toes can calm any man down
bro u give urself too much credit
go recruit be useful for a change
He recovered from breakup
Logged in just now
breh
Yall in a union?
Ye me and java same union
Nice
u are also now considered brain dead
He is our best bruiser
Yeah
It's fine
Anything for a mate
Well looks like the situation is no longer heated my work is done
im late to the thread hows people feeling
Just like ur name
😿
Asia/europe both the same almost dead
I feel eco
I think the roast is a 2/10
Nothing
go up and look past log when world chat only shows like 10 lines
why are u doing horse again
If we say something this will just extend
We argue if hoyan or tia is best waifu
Old screenshot
tia > hoyan
Hoyan better than tia
holden
Tia is unwanted unneeded undesirable unfitting and most importantly undercooked
Hmm yeah maybe u right
how is doki not in this conversation?
Best waifu is ||maggie||
do you ever contribute to a conversation btw
outside of clickbaiting
For a second i thought there is the name mia or mio
Yeah no real waifus




