🎯 THE FIX FOR EVERYTHING — MAKE ETHERIA GREAT AGAIN!!

[warped dagger]

🗨️ Players are welcome to discuss below. Please keep it respectful and focus on constructive criticism.

We all love this game — let’s help shape it together.

[meager ocean]

What about the RNG in modules for sub stats (speed)

Because the player can go a week of farming Doki Doki and not get a good sub stat module. Because of RNG

[warped dagger]

While RNG in modules is annoying, we get more than sufficient coins for reroll. Plus we can can min-max module upgrading by choosing modules with 3 stars and 4 or more sub attributes. So, it isn't a critical problem.

Plus, I am lvl 100 but have have been outsped by lvl 70 players. Other in chat attest to this as well. So it isn't included as a critical issue.

[sand wind]

in what universe was this perfect for the new meta?

[mellow sorrel]

L patch

[sand wind]

rev was the third best playstyle and tanks already being the best got even better

im very confused

[warped dagger]

This thread isn't to discuss the new patch, but address other issues. Kindly read the title and the note at the bottom.

[icy brook]

[mellow sorrel]

I was already having a hard time with bruisers but for some reason they chose to make the game boring as fuuck buffing bruisers and nerfing revelation

[warped dagger]

If you think its bad, feel free to make a feedback post on it.

[warped dagger]

It's good because devs are trying to reduce Speed dependence and one-shot teams.

It's not PvP if your opponent doesn't even get to make a move.

[sand wind]

I did

[sand wind]

this never happened in higher ranks tho

[warped dagger]

Great, continue your discussion there

[sand wind]

u said feel free to discuss below

so I am

[fiery mango]

the devs love RNG which is fine, but layering RNG on RNG on RNG is just not respecting people's time, especially when its pretty obviously they put lower weight on desirable stats like speed.

there are already so many stats that we have to reroll through to get the one we want and on top of that its not even evenly weighted? come on thats just predatory

[trail rampart]

Great feedback post dear op

[warped dagger]

It refered to my solutions and whether other players had a better idea. Not the patch note. Kindly understand the context.

[mellow sorrel]

but there are countless strategies already to counter it like lighthouse and bb what are you talking about

[sand wind]

yeah idk op doesnt play rta I guess which is fine

[fiery mango]

also why have a module shop but not have any way to earn the module currency apart from first time inferno clears and through p2win.

At least give the f2p some chance to get it, even if low. Like give Inferno a chance to drop like 1-2 per run

[sand wind]

but he is making it sound like he is

[mellow sorrel]

yea lol

[warped dagger]

I am relating to why devs could've done it. Why are you arguing with me? This isn't a Patch note discussion post. @sand wind made a post for that. Discuss with him.

[trail rampart]

Dude your opinion is based only on highest lvl of play

And you dont consider even a bit all the 98% of the population and playerbase

[sand wind]

its only been a month or two, highest lvl of play rn is not hard to achieve

in a little longer

for everyone else

[trail rampart]

Its not hard to achieve in pay to win gacha game

[untold basalt]

it unironically is for most people cause they followed too many cc's lol

[trail rampart]

Yeah

[untold basalt]

we're playing a different game than them all @sand wind

[blissful hatch]

skill issue

[sand wind]

brother I have 2 ppl who spent less than 50 bucks in my last guild in mythic

[untold basalt]

the majority of this discord is basically at least a month behind us all

[sand wind]

u just sound like u dont know HOW to play the game

[trail rampart]

I AM also mythic and?

[sand wind]

so wtf are u arguing about then

im so confused

[icy brook]

[sand wind]

rev was not an issue in mythic+ for a while now

[trail rampart]

Look at statistics of usage Rate of the shells
The only l is not nerfing bb also but a nerv rev was justified

IT was look at the statistics and transfomring support Heroes into damage dealrs

[icy brook]

they didnt nerf rev btw they killed it

[sand wind]

yeah 10% was warranted

30% is a death sentence

[warped dagger]

Everyone knew rev would be nerfed.

[untold basalt]

whats wild to me

[trail rampart]

They should in addition nerf bb and IT would be fine

[untold basalt]

is that they buffed bruisers

in the process

[trail rampart]

And also buffed hołdem on their own whenche was already strong and healthy pick

[sand wind]

no? top players were literally begging devs not to do it, we had hope they wouldnt cuz so many of us were saying it but apparently they dont care

[sand wind]

yes if they nerf rev they nerf bb

[trail rampart]

Dude as i said the playerbase is larger ghan 1% rta

[fiery mango]

this is the first nerf to rev, we can see where that takes us, its not unusual to nerf heavy handed then revert some of it, let them cook

[sand wind]

but now idk

[trail rampart]

Yh

[untold basalt]

this is going to be a bigger than the 1% problem

very soon

[sand wind]

mhm

[untold basalt]

we're the 1% because we're basically the future lol

[sand wind]

if u played games like e7 and so on ull know that the 1% meta doesnt stay 1% meta for long

[hollow fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-eat-popcorn-listening-sideshow-bob-gif-11775572287607054920

[untold basalt]

just cause plat/diamond was struggling with it, doesnt mean that it was gonna perma stay that way

[summer grotto]

are you the Bread Bread?

[untold basalt]

that is indeed rank 1 Bread

[summer grotto]

holy Bread

[sand wind]

Hi, Idk why Im feeling toxic today, sorry if im sounding not nice

patch note got me worked up

[summer grotto]

whats happening here

rev nerf made you mad guys?

[untold basalt]

bro i had that episode with this discord during the ews swiss lol

[fiery mango]

you rolled the mood gacha today and failed, devs are pleased

[trail rampart]

The revelations wasnt healthy for the long term of the game the same as bb isn't its fundametally broken that you can turn aby sup into dd

Overall IT was needed
The Shell should be designed to counter tanks not creating dpses from supps?

[untold basalt]

i just had to accept majority of this discord just kinda sheeps and doesn't really think of the bigger picture often

[neat gate]

thats because you balance of the best players and not players with unoptimal half built chars with no lattices

[summer grotto]

98% of this community doesn’t think of the bigger picture

[sand wind]

yeah this early on u kinda have to balance off the top

later its more fine to look at statistics

[neat gate]

@sand wind gg on RTA rank 1 btw

[sand wind]

ty

[neat gate]

wana come join CLS 😛 hehe

[sand wind]

I just joined scarlet

[neat gate]

we gonna have a spot for u

haha

[sand wind]

so sorry but thats a nno

[fiery mango]

bro i just dont want it to feel like going to the slots everytime i'm queuing a auto run

[sand wind]

[neat gate]

will see how you guys get beat in gvg

hehe

[sand wind]

Im looking forward to it! scarlet gvg is very organized rn, im impressed

[neat gate]

our round 2 teams gonna be unkillable

yea the optimisations in the top guilds kinda nutty rn

[coral tendon]

This is objectively just wrong, you had the holy trinity of pvp meta cleave/bruiser 2turn/cc. The problem was that rev was more abusive and lower investment in lower tier ranks. These are 95% of the playerbase or even more. If they wouldnt nerf rev tho they could go EOS instantly thats the issue. For top 200 pvp meta was in a okayish spot but other than that it was way too abusive and many people didnt know a cheap answer to rev since codex and LH is locked to rengo

[neat gate]

okay is a stretch, i think there wasnt enough strip options to make cc viable

[coral tendon]

Fair enough

[neat gate]

mostly it was a battle between giga fed rev players vs giga built tank players

and building the tank units at the higher ranks is actually easier

cause you need insane speed rolls to compete in the rev category

[warped dagger]

I am closing this post, since at this point its all about revelation and toxicity which I hate the most.

@sand wind Can't understand such a simple message. This isn't the post for that. Being toxic isn't healthy for you nor the society.

[coral tendon]

Yes but we are 0,001 % of the player base

[neat gate]

to be fair your post said The fix for everything, but you offered no fix

nor does this patch fix anything

so in both cases your post dosnt do a whole lot (no offense here)

the quality of life in this patch is insane

[sand wind]

I thought u were wrong and u could not come with a counterargument, u asked for discussion

[neat gate]

but they have hurt pvp in such a massive way, (they should have had a ton more nerfs including rev)

[sand wind]

u just said go away cuz im not for what u said

[warped dagger]

This post is for posting solutions, not for crying about more problems. All I wanted was to spread some positivity. But some just got screws lose

[neat gate]

he did post a solution he said dont nerf rev

[sand wind]

yes?

like I literally said I think the solution was not nerf rev

I would love rengo nerf tho

if thats somth of a solutionb

[frozen pulsar]

So everything is perfect and there should not be room for any criticism?

[sand wind]

I think it would help spd up rta fix

for casual players

[mellow rain]

u have an incorrect take

[neat gate]

agreed pve being easier would mean rev is weaker

[warped dagger]

Good, your problem don't nerf rev and solution don't nerf rev. Good. Your message has been accepted now go get some sleep

[sand wind]

rn rev is easier to farm than lighthouse

[neat gate]

yup and only requires 1 matrix (swift raid) the rest dont really matter

so the ability to get it is also much more consistant

[sand wind]

I stated it in a bad way I can agree, but I definitely had valid reason to be here

[warped dagger]

There are a million other posts for that. Seriously are any of you happy irl lmao.

[lilac cairn]

#MEGA

[neat gate]

we are yes

[sand wind]

I am actually yes

ty for asking

got rank 1 rta, ate some nice food, worked on tomorrows video

[neat gate]

we are loving the game (and competitng and spending) so why wouldnt we be active participants in these discussions that affect our game

[sand wind]

this

[warped dagger]

Well thanks for the free publicity! Have fun chatting with each other.

[frozen pulsar]

Deflect into personal attack

[neat gate]

thought you were closing the post XD

[frozen pulsar]

No counterpoints

[neat gate]

thats ok we ignore personal attacks, so common on these discords

[coral tendon]

This guy cant be real

[neat gate]

if you go against the f2p oppinion, your instant the worst human

[frozen pulsar]

For someone wanting to discuss solutions and make the game better you sure are doing quite the opposite

[warped dagger]

How do I close? I clicked a close button but nothing happened?

[lilac cairn]

Wait, ya'll don't double down and devolve to a mud slinging match?!

[sand wind]

damn, thought this was default

[lilac cairn]

Fucking adults in the room

[neat gate]

haha yea as a 30+ year old, im past the point where yelling fights are fun

[lilac cairn]

I'm also thirty and I still like to fight send help

[neat gate]

i do that enough in my business, dont need to do that online

[neat gate]

but see i have job where i do this

[lilac cairn]

Oooh, you get it out of your system