radiant ferry
Heinrich (in truth, anyone with buff block?) buff block doesn't allow Amber's undispellable (Yellow buff icon) to proc and leave the unit with 1 hp.
In addition to amber clearing all debuffs before proccing, the buff block interaction should not affect an undispellable buff icon, just like every other undispellable buff we have.
pure holly
Is it block or wound? Amber mechanics keep changing lmao.
Also, why shouldn't Block or wound counter Amber? Fits with the whole CC > Bruiser > Speed > CC assuming equal levels of gear
Technically Amber doesn't say "Clear all debuffs and then heal/ice/whatever". It says they all happen, not necessarily the order. So heals happening first and then cleanse makes sense. It also a great use for Block/Wound to be relevant
radiant ferry
Is it block or wound? Amber mechanics keep changing lmao.
Also, why shouldn't B...
If that was the case then wound should counter it as well, only buff block does. It clearly removes the debuffs first in every other interaction.
Also the whole triangle between all 3 I would argue buff block is in the “speed” category that you mentioned and not CC. So it actually gives tools for the cleave/speed meta (heinrich rev) which turns the triangle around.
pure holly
If that was the case then wound should counter it as well, only buff block does....
It used to be wound counters it lmao, they keep changing Amber
neat bay
it is wound and it is a good counter
amber is pretty toxic and can be abused on dps units to get 1 ult out 100% which in most cases is enough to cleave
radiant ferry
it is wound and it is a good counter
It seems to glitch out with buff block but still proc it it seems?
neat bay
nah its right the no hp at the beginning is bc yeli folow up is alrdy calced into it
only wound keeps you at 1 hp which is a solid counter and playaround in my opinion. Without it amber is super broken in some tactics
radiant ferry
Oh I see, i guess thats a glitch but not an amber one lol. Ig, just wonder if that was design or bug though, if its a design it must be because they proc all at same time like versailes said.
neat bay
it happens on my yeli too in your case it showed zero HP bc your yeli had enough follow up to kill. In my cases i ahd oftentimes amber on 1/4 Hp bc my yeli couldnt finish it off
radiant ferry
Yeah and about play arounds I think its more of a bigger meta decision, amber can be cancer in the classic dps like messiah cheese and stuff, but the rev punishment on tanks, the cc and now a heal block to counter one of the only shells tanks have kinda sucks
But not really connected to this thread anymore lol
neat bay
rev counter is lighthosue which works. CC counter shell is Amber actually
bc cc teams dont have the dmg to kill you in your ice state
if they cant wound
and they cant cc you in the ice state so you guarntee to get your turn
radiant ferry
Oh interesting take, ive been building my teams to counter cc lately so thats good
finite flame
yellow buffs don't get blocked or dispelled
and it's the wound that counters amber atm
radiant ferry
yellow buffs don't get blocked or dispelled
So im guessing the buff doesn’t even apply with wound debuff on? Which sounds weird because it shouldnt block the buff from going up unless the 60% heal is seperate from the yellow buff
finite flame
no it does get applied
but the issue is that amber is supposed to cleanse the wound
and THEN heal for 60% max hp or whatever
but currently it's healing and then cleansing the wound
meaning you get left at 1 hp
but you still have the amber buff
finite flame
ruh roh
I love how they called this a "description bug"
when they straight up changed the mechanic last patch
radiant ferry
Amber getting a changefix every update im calling it
wicked yacht
They destroyed Amber officially. They turned the bugged Amber into its intended function. Lmfao.. gg devs. You killed Amber. Wtf is she cleansing AFTER healing.... which means she won't proc Amber if buff blocked or heal blocked. Such an L patch.
timber wedge
Ya, I definitely think it’s a feels bad moment, but that’s only because I’m a turn 2 player. I’m sure all the turn one players would have something to say if amber cleansed first.
On another note, I was a firm believer of building amber on Liliam because it says in her passive that’s she’s immune to all turn meter reduction effects. That’s clearly not the case, because the amber proc still reduces her turn meter. Is this a bug or intended behaviour?
radiant ferry
On another note, I was a firm believer of building amber on Liliam because it sa...
Make a new thread on it, thats a good question
