#Dreamscape did not fix the economy the CEO PROMISED

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ashen trout
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tho really if they were gonna buff inferno idk why they didnt write it in the patch notes

lethal swallow
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they can just fix it with daily limited sweep function like E7 does (10 or 20)

ashen trout
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they only released animus changes

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and mentioned none of the boss changes

lethal swallow
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I'm more worried about the game taking way too long to spend your stamina and do your stuff

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I complete 5 games daily maintenance before even doing the half of Etheria

ashen trout
lethal swallow
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actually 5 games with 7 accounts ^^;

halcyon obsidian
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Better whining then Eos which is where they're headed fast

lethal swallow
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I'm just bored of their excuses

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the whole management team feel so insincere

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they could have made the game 10 times better if they bothered to ask opinions of the ESW qualified players

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instead they made a show match where players used accounts taken from other whales 🙂

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imagine not caring about your own ToS in the most prestigious event for your game

ornate stone
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maybe they do, but bias always exists even for top players

lethal swallow
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but they could have given a lot of good feedback too

ornate stone
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devs do seem to be on the side of "revelation is fine" so if they hear rev spammers say that its fine, could have really bad consequenses

lethal swallow
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didnt they already say no buff/nerf till next pvp season?

ornate stone
worthy spire
ornate stone
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just get good and roll 6 red speed pieces zf_hahaha

lethal swallow
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I believe devs are also testing stuff with dev accounts -_-

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that is why everything is so overtuned

eager idol
fossil nexus
ashen trout
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tbh a lot of the doomposters left

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and there's no doomposters to fill the void

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and some of the marathoners left too

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rip strugglebus

tough axle
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Wait so they create an event to fix the economy…. Now they need to create another event to fix the event that was meant to fix the economy?

azure tusk
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We still have 1 bending over and 1 random clown, soon they'll quit aswell

tough axle
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Bro just do what wuwa did

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It’s not that hard

ebon forge
copper patio
# tough axle Bro just do what wuwa did

I wish it was that easy… the CEO felt quite strongly opinionated about no more reset events, when you listen to WuWa’s CEO they don’t share such opinions, they say things like “we’ll listen to player feedback”. so the leadership here doesn’t feel at the same level… :/

lethal swallow
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because Jack is a gamer ^^;

tough axle
copper patio
lethal swallow
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at this point, I'm just doing my daily minimum and waiting for them to hire someone who actualy knows gacha games
It looks like they have the financial stability to survive and recruit from the ESW event

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so let's hope the game is playble before half anni

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and a revamp around that time

tough axle
azure tusk
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There was a good feedback but got deleted by mods, it said EoS the game and transfer it to a company who actually knows how to manage a gacha game dorryhodo

lethal swallow
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🙂

azure tusk
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Probably was the best feedback

lethal swallow
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they were sponsoring weird twitch channels for the ESW event

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channels like MTG players, Hearthstone players

tough axle
lethal swallow
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I think they tried any channel with over 100 views

azure tusk
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They just sponsoring random ppl with big names, I said even if they sponsored Henry Cavill he still wouldn't be able to save it

lethal swallow
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I mean that show they have the financial stability to last at least a year

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hopefully

tough axle
lethal swallow
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twitch chat was dead

tough axle
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“OH WOW KEKKER ROLLED BETTER”

azure tusk
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That's normal, coz all popular gacha YTs and none gacha YTs were connecting their channels to that live stream

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But what for ?

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Game still dog, ppl will come and see

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The smell is so bad not to notice

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And they will smell it

lethal swallow
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even raid shadow legends can survive with financial stability

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I think that is why leadership is thinking -_-

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just sponsor and throw away lots of moneh

ebon forge
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Spam ads alone will carry the game

azure tusk
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Smart thing to do atm is recognizing the game as a success pump and dump then throw it to a company or just EoS.

Dumb thing to do is spending money on marketing and lose everything they made while the game still a shithole

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It's not like XD have the best reputation

lethal swallow
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release LD selector banner
release free 100pulls 50days banner
nerf all inferno stages to hell so even a new player can farm it after 2 weeks

everybody will be back and hype the game again "DEVS LISTENED" from paid actors on youtube etc

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I dont want to waste my time in PVE trying to play a competitive PVP game

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1448 stamina per day with max refresh = 144 runs (2min avg) ~ 5hours just to spend stamina

mossy shell
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Not to mention 142 of those runs will have worthless shit as drops. (2matrix/2sub mods, or baaaaa-ullshit)

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From the hardest content in the game

lethal swallow
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not gonna lie, I dont mind the drop rates

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I'm used to getting a few good pieces per week in pvp gachas

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is it depressing? yes

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would it be ideal to increase drop rates? yes

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but it wont make me quit the game unlike other problems

copper patio
mossy shell
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I have a MAJOR issue w getting h2 grade gear out of what is advertised as endgame and is literally the endgame pve

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It won’t make me quit, but it’s still dogshit

lethal swallow
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the current problem is inferno being so hard and people are expecting superiour rewards

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just look at e7

fluid pewter
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Do is the economy fixed now?

lethal swallow
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it doesnt matter if you are farming the hardest stage cuz the previous ones are trash

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but we were stuck in those trash stages in Etheria, we are expecting Inferno to drop OP gar

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gear*

mossy shell
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I mean only difference between h4 and inferno is the glowmods for 3/3/3 shells. Module drops are pretty equiv

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That’s not how a good game works

lethal swallow
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you actually have a less chance to get better drops cuz of the glowmods

mossy shell
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Real

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Shits awful

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Love the game but the devs are fumbling the bag big time

lethal swallow
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the solution was perfect from hypertalk 3, just let us get module materials from selling gear

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so we can buy a limited number of items from the shop

mossy shell
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Hate how frustrating everything is just bc Jack is clueless

lethal swallow
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what is the point of this shop?

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pure garbage

mossy shell
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They would have to make it so the mod shop can ONLY give 3mx mods and remove flat stats from the right side mods ffs

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True and real tho

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Shop existing makes 0 sense other than an outlet for whales to drop some money for 5x mod purchase which will prolly all be dogshit

copper patio
# lethal swallow

The “fun” part about this is that you constantly get 2 matrixes items in a paid shop LOLMAO

lethal swallow
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that is why I only bought 8 set matrixes from it

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like bulwark

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^^

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and have not touched it since week 1

mossy shell
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U mean board? zf_hahaha

lethal swallow
eager idol
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probably board

lethal swallow
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this
VS

fossil nexus
lethal swallow
ashen trout
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yea

lethal swallow
ashen trout
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💀

mossy shell
tough axle
lethal swallow
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was it a subtitle error

royal gazelle
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EWS couldve been interesting if we werent distracted by harsh difficulty and shit economy

lethal swallow
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or did seii actually said board?

molten elbow
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subtitle error i believe

mossy shell
lethal swallow
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I enjoyed it till the cringe creator event 😦 and YDCB saved it at the end

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probably AI translated

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cuz it was live

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not sure if that part was pre recorded

molten elbow
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it was pre recorded im pretty sure

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since im pretty sure it was replayed 2-3 times before the event started

tough axle
lethal swallow
tough axle
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Also that someone likes to cliff his opponents?

unique falcon
fossil nexus
unique falcon
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Heartbreaking

azure tusk
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Devs to us and the bootlickers

azure tusk
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"enough RNG, give ur players some shit"

unique falcon
copper patio
unique falcon
ashen trout
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thank u game

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very cool

lethal swallow
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what team do you guys use for dreamscape Lily ?

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cant clear on abyss on alt ^^;

tough axle
true sage
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how’d this channel become random chatter rofl, still no response from the bug ay

tough axle
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The rage is just a cover to get a gen chat with no cooldown

true sage
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events over in a day too, guess they don’t give a shit

lethal swallow
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next rerun will be fixed

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c had a talk with jack

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🙂

true sage
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🙃

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disappointing

tough axle
true sage
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lack of comms really do be the downfall, haven’t they learned from other games

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everything else aside, comms #1

nova spade
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saving keys for tmr because that is where most of the point i get from

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dont worry tmr will be a patch that will not change anything

true sage
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Yeh red boss is decent

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280/300 tiers per lindelle

nova spade
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damn my red is 210 lol

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blue is 250+

true sage
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I use xiada and diting

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for dps

nova spade
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same

true sage
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Val doki lily

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Val for damage buff random buff

nova spade
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i even try 3 dps but keep getting nuke at 1min xD

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val cant solo sustain, boss do big dmg

true sage
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yeh don’t 2 dps this

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xiada for adds on her s3

nova spade
true sage
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gotta get lucky with sitting

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he hit for 250k one rotation

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would be more with fury momentum but no have

nova spade
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if only xiada can one shot mob every S3 with no rev

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same

true sage
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she does until 3rd mostly even with out rev but u need ur stacks

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I bought all the gem chests rofl dunno if it’s worth refreshing tomorrow

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net loss was 500 per day

nova spade
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im close to a lattice in lattice box i think

true sage
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I’m debating whether to go last 100 lattice or prototype

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might go 50 prototype to see , I’m 2 tickets away from 10 pull

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1.5 tickets actually

nova spade
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how u have almost another 10 again

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im sitting at 2 for 2 weeks lol

lethal swallow
# nova spade

the problem is lily changes target with S2 bcuz of atk buff from Val

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I couldnt have a stable team with that setup 😢

nova spade
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with this team she just go for xiada everytime

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but when i put yeli in instead of diting she switch after xiada got 3 stack

lethal swallow
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it is about max atk

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my xiada never had more atk than my diting unfortunately

nova spade
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sadge

lethal swallow
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only when diting loses his atk buff from val

cobalt gull
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I cant even beat abyss level to complete the mission FrogCoolCry 💀

true sage
tough vortex
desert crystal
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2 days left in the event and there's no way i'm able to buy all the x5 lattice fragment in the shop, wtf is this shit

shrewd mantle
desert crystal
shrewd mantle
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I don't believe they "heavily tested" anything at all ... Anyone with 2 brain cells and a decent understand of math can get to the conclusion that this even is ass

inner pebble
shrewd mantle
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But hey ... It's about feelings anyway and sadly the players have "bad feelings" so they don't see HOW GREAT this even was

nova spade
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"balance rng"WHAA

shrewd mantle
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I'm really sorry for him ... It's not his fault at all

desert crystal
shrewd mantle
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As I said, not his fault ...

true sage
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nah, none of that matters, answer to bug fix

shrewd mantle
desert crystal
tough vortex
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Go on reddit

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And here also

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A guy did the calcs

desert crystal
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is this about Yeli 3rd attack proc rate ?

tough vortex
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No

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Dreamscape

shrewd mantle
desert crystal
tough vortex
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Event

desert crystal
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which one ?

tough vortex
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To get lattice shard

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From feather box

desert crystal
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they never said it was 36% chance 🤔

tough vortex
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The base is 36

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Which is also unlikely to happen in reality

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Since the equation is already saying very bad rate

shrewd mantle
# tough vortex The base is 36

Where did you get that it was 36%? If we're talking about the same thing C repeatedly said there's no info about drop rates

desert crystal
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???? nowhere in the info says all the possible drop have the same chance of happening

shrewd mantle
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Also couldn't find the Reddit post

tough vortex
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Maybe deleted

desert crystal
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obivously the chances for lattice are waaay lower than currencies

gusty spoke
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prob 0.5% for lattice

shrewd mantle
tough vortex
brisk marsh
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"hard evidence and reasonable information" on reddit zf_hahahazf_hahahazf_hahaha good one

tough vortex
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To game

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Yeah

brisk marsh
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never, ever believe anything someone who uses reddit in 2025 says

shrewd mantle
brisk marsh
shrewd mantle
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Until proven otherwise

tough vortex
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I discussed there so it at that moment felt fair

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But never met a real math guy

desert crystal
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lmao some random guy on the internet thought he was smart by saying "hey guys there 6 possible reward, each with 1/6 chances, with 3 being lattice, so lattice should have 3/6 chances of happening" look at what chatgpt says with these odd, lol lol lol devs lied to us

shrewd mantle
gusty spoke
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well all i know is this event is a feels bad event

shrewd mantle
gusty spoke
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it did inject coins

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but its a bad feeling kind of event

nova spade
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coin that i used to barely +15 a module

gusty spoke
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i mean it gives like 2-3m coins i think for f2p

inner pebble
shrewd mantle
warm storm
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Low spender sucks in this Game, better be f2p its almost the same

gusty spoke
tough vortex
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Wait let me check the guy here

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I will find that thread also

gusty spoke
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they shouldt have place lattice box imo

inner pebble
shrewd mantle
gusty spoke
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he shouldt have said hey i talked to Jack it was a good talk but i cant tell you. Wait for further notice

inner pebble
gusty spoke
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when they failed the further notice 3 times already

shrewd mantle
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Fuck ... XD is not better than netmarble, scam2us, or Capcom in my eyes

glacial leaf
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Heyheyhey now having all those with netmarble is an insult

gusty spoke
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for netmarble?

glacial leaf
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No for others

shrewd mantle
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They deserve each other

glacial leaf
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And where is EA sports or was this just for gachas

shrewd mantle
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I don't play EA games

glacial leaf
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Good

nova spade
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capcom got a gacha?

gusty spoke
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Riot has gacha

glacial leaf
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XD

tough vortex
nova spade
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2*

glacial leaf
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Smilegate also has done some questionable things

gusty spoke
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E7 is alright for now but Lost Ark

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that was a game that did not live to its hype

nova spade
tough vortex
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Pvz 2 u need to get max score in events to get the new plant

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And there are leaderboards

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Giving ya plant seeds

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For powering plants

shrewd mantle
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DMC Peak of combat of whyevrr is called

shrewd mantle
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I love it ...

gusty spoke
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idk why they did it tho

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prob cause they got greedy for money on share prices

shrewd mantle
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Because it's they "game philosophy" ... (To speed run EOS) Xd

tough vortex
gusty spoke
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they are still sponsoring CC tho

tough vortex
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Now is trying to run away

gusty spoke
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Jena just had a sponsor from ER

tough vortex
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Same with etheria

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Jenazad?

gusty spoke
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yeah

tough vortex
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Yeah he already left etheria

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Long ago

gusty spoke
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He is playing now lol

tough vortex
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He never cared much

shrewd mantle
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Wasn't he in the last ebteria talk?

gusty spoke
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cause he got sponsored today

tough vortex
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And he likes established games more than new ones

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Oh

tough vortex
shrewd mantle
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For technical problems no?

tough vortex
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He had some urgent work

shrewd mantle
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Aha ..

tough vortex
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Also jenazad said silver

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Whole stream continued with it

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The devs don't know what the name of their coins is

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And these gonna improve game

shrewd mantle
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BUT THEY PLAY THE GAME EVERY DAY !!

tough vortex
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Ye in dev accounts

shrewd mantle
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This clownfest honestly makes me happy

tough vortex
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We are just watching the burning forest from afar

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I think the people who are not on discord

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Will never take the bait that community manager says

gusty spoke
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casuals just leave lol

tough vortex
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I think people out of discord are already started leaving

gusty spoke
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they dont like it they just leave

tough vortex
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This discord is a very small sample space of player base

shrewd mantle
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I'm just impressed on how much shit ...."we".... Are willing to take from these Devs, like I'm seriously impressed on the resilience ? Numbness? Not really sure how to describe it ... Of gacha players in general

tough vortex
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Just cause the top 100 unions are here means not everything

tough vortex
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Defend the most brain rot takes

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Cause this game itself is brain rot

gusty spoke
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i dont think so tho

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most who def always wanted the 2013? SW and E7

tough vortex
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Yes but there are some guys

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Who defend the game when they are at max clear is nightmare

gusty spoke
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those guys?

tough vortex
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And u know what happened

gusty spoke
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they chargeback and leave

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like buss

tough vortex
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They left the game after getting to hell 4

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Lmao

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Also they delete their whole discord account

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And make new one

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So in future they don't get caught

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By mistake

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For defending etheria

gusty spoke
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well vampy def etheria till she got to endgame so

nova spade
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who delete account already

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yeah lol

brisk marsh
nova spade
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advit day 1 etheria defender turn to doomer

brisk marsh
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oh until

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ignore me

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reading is hard

gusty spoke
tough vortex
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There was too much flash in ur eyes

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Just

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Ren

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Ur seeing jack empire in its full glory

tough vortex
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And they played since alpha beta

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On release they quit

ivory cipher
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I geniunly believe it was better for them not to release this event

gusty spoke
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it was a mistake

ivory cipher
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if they just said sorry we are aware there are problems and wait for end season would have been much better

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still shitty but yeah

brisk marsh
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if they did that people would just complain there was no lattice

nova spade
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if only they didnt make key buyablezf_hahaha

brisk marsh
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they need to be removing the rng

tough vortex
gusty spoke
tough vortex
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And making sure all are reaching home safely and sound

gusty spoke
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there will be complain about coins

brisk marsh
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takes too much for no lattice

gusty spoke
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and it was hard day 1

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or am i remembering it wrongly

tough vortex
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Train didn't had lattice

gusty spoke
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there

tough vortex
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But had a level 50 account hacking

brisk marsh
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yeah but it doesnt take as much time either

gusty spoke
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it was marketed as eco fix

tough vortex
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Which cleared train in under a minute

gusty spoke
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not lattice fix

shrewd mantle
gusty spoke
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so complains wouldt have been about lattice rng

brisk marsh
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sure but people say economy and they also mean lattice and module drops

tough vortex
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Since Asians can't watch it

gusty spoke
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its bad now cause its a very rare resoruce

shrewd mantle
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they believe they're rito LOL

tough vortex
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Basically whole asia was sleeping when ews was live

gusty spoke
tough vortex
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This problem will get more big

gusty spoke
tough vortex
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Also who knows how much lattice the new ld unit will take

gusty spoke
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12/12

tough vortex
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Imagine it's same as yeli

gusty spoke
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12 or bust unit

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but its op in pve

tough vortex
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Always

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Ye

gusty spoke
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they might nerf diting

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since its a dark and it will force people who relies on diting to pull on the new ld banner

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maybe

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who knows its XD

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or it allows for a more stable run over diting

lavish zodiac
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I think nerf/buff will be more focused on PvP than PvE

gusty spoke
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depends how they go about it

lavish zodiac
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And Diting isn't that much used in PvP ngl

gusty spoke
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Viktor

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? for pvp?

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Khloros

tough vortex
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Viktor will be great

gusty spoke
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pvp?

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im waiting for them to nerf Lily

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no matter if its bad in high pvp

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she prob has most usage in most acc that has her in pve and pvp

tough vortex
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If lily gets touched who rerolled for lily leave

gusty spoke
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averagely

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80% for twin trick to allow follow up

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reduce cr push

shrewd mantle
lavish zodiac
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Based on myself dv_frogKekOwO

nova spade
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then people start using tsuki to meter boost😂 , they already doing that

lavish zodiac
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Some people, even including myself are still struggling to pass some content

shrewd mantle
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i also thought this game was going to be amazing... oh boy how wrong i was

lavish zodiac
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Imagine if they nerf most usable units by 99% players for PvE

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There's no point

tough vortex
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Did u play something etheria like in past fool

shrewd mantle
gusty spoke
shrewd mantle
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just look at their past record of "improvement decisions" lol

tough vortex
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10 k training data reality 8 k

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It's gets worse than their expectations

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Itself

inner pebble
shrewd mantle
inner pebble
shrewd mantle
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well considering what and how, you could target PVP ... i guess? i don't know

inner pebble
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i mean if they are making changes to the units and the sandboxes arent separated out, then the nerf/buff will affect both pve and pvp, whether that maybe the intention or not

tough vortex
halcyon obsidian
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I think no one knows what they will do since they don’t even know themselves how their game functions.

tough vortex
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Yes

halcyon obsidian
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Lol Google knows

nova spade
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is the game playing the survival game or the player

halcyon obsidian
tough vortex
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Real though

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We are all baited

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It ain't pvp game

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It's survival game

eager idol
tough vortex
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It's a mental test of how many days u can survive in a shit environment

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Like man vs wild

eager idol
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should rename casino restart tbh

tough vortex
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Gacha addict vs etheria

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This all info is collected for future gachas

halcyon obsidian
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Psyop makes the most sense

halcyon obsidian
gusty spoke
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its a lab test to see how much gacha players allow the company to get away with before eos

nova spade
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global chat went from 10+ channel to now only 5

halcyon obsidian
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Like why are they spinning off 1 million servers anyways? For who? No one’s breaking down the door to play this game right now.

tough vortex
tough vortex
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But for gacha addicts

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The last guy gets a huge pay check from jack

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As cash prize

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But to get that cash prize also

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U need to win a luck draw

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Which has 8 nothings one cash prize

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On it

white crow
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tons of calculation and still decide that rng based event is great? haha make me wanna puke

nova spade
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it's thier signature move

tough vortex
wheat oyster
fossil nexus
quiet summit
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😔

ruby flax
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9 boxes got 2 frags, idk, seem the rate is good

shrewd mantle
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Wow 9 boxes and you also got 2 yellow books, 50k coin, and 40k training data.... That is amazing for an event

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Are you complaining about free resources?

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These f2p entitled players don't know what a generous event is

tough vortex
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It's all rng

hardy eagle
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If they make those kind of quests at least make them clearable

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I am getting dark>wind>dark>fire>dark>wind>dark

ruby flax
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the rng is quite good

tough vortex
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Since imagine u actually did them on first days

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But since it's last page u have to do when u reached the page

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Then it counts

hardy eagle
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Yeah I get water once on day 1 and never since I come to that page

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It's just a dark spam

white crow
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but the events rewards is good. if you compare it with ethernet its dogshit trash

hardy eagle
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Also this shit should be on last floors but it always on first where u can't even profit from it

hardy eagle
wheat oyster
tough vortex
gusty spoke
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they patched it iirc

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but if you did the abyss before the patch well

tough vortex
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Rip

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@gusty spoke give ur take of this vid

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@shrewd mantle

patent needle
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still got 1 day to go but I've gotten 1 full lattice from the lootbox

tough vortex
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Mine ain't like this

hardy eagle
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I get big cock on the throat

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80k feathers 0 shards

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U just get lucky

green fossil
warm folio
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I like Jay but that pisses me off lol

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There are plenty of real people who made all those points better

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including me

tough axle
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jay just shill the game sometimes

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especially when he tries to discredit people sharing why they left the game

warm folio
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He's right about the drama farmers though

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And not shilling here

tough axle
tough vortex
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Don't open sean b comments

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Latest video

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Every hardcore messaged there

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That dreamscape event was the best

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For them

warm folio
tough axle
warm folio
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He was very specific any time I saw him do it

tough axle
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no, he didnt

warm folio
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Ok

tough axle
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He criticed the whales leaving and also brax during the first drama fest

warm folio
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Brax is a drama farmer

tough vortex
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Auron will just move

tough axle
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Hes not

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look at brax's channel

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there is no drama

tough vortex
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If game doesn't give him enough farm

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For videos

warm folio
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He makes sensationalized videos to drive views to his content when he can afford to burn an audience segment because he doesn't want to play a game

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He's a piece of shit like any other lol

tough vortex
warm folio
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Tectone the same

tough vortex
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Also atleast seanb admitted he had life

tough axle
tough vortex
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And he was tired of same thing again and again

tough axle
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its not for drama

warm folio
tough axle
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you can label anything you dont like drama but it will only hurt you

warm folio
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The general audience loves any video shitting on a game they didn't want to play anyway

tough axle
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what

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its literally a guide channel

warm folio
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I think we're on 2 different levels here so I'm just going to drop it

tough vortex
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Wait auron is hsr guide?

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Never knew

tough axle
tough axle
tough vortex
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Oh

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I mean brax left hsr contract anyway

tough axle
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Just find it funny how people are complaining about hsr players not liking the game but the company themselves sponsors everyone that covers hsr

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like what did you think would happen

tough vortex
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I think hoyo is just going very weird way but they always showed they can comeback

tough axle
tough vortex
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But this patch should have been more highlight to Collab since it was in making from a year

tough vortex
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Bro varka looks like emo gepard

tough axle
tough vortex
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Honestly kuro don't brag about their work

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Even their shils don't

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Cuz they are busy dodging their whole life

tough axle
tough vortex
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Kuro shills are bearable

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Hoyo shills nah they went beyond infinity

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Like if someone says some hate comment of genshin or hsr on X

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They be like in comment why don't u die

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Truly parasocials

tough axle
tough vortex
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Etheria shills idk what to describe about them

tough axle
tough vortex
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I still think they don't have this perfect identity

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Since they don't know whats gonna happen tomorrow

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Other gacha have leaks for f2p to help them

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But etheria nah bud we have 4k quality security since even we don't know what we are doing ps

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We are marathoning in a darkness

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Where there is no light

tough axle
tough vortex
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Idk what guys I hit when I am running

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Or who comes and attacks me from behind

tough axle
nova spade
lethal swallow
halcyon obsidian
lethal swallow
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I know he didnt quit, I was trying to say why would people even think he did quit

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and from him saying "I wasnt able to go oversees", it felt like he was invited but couldnt due to irl/visa issues maybe?

unique falcon
kindred grotto
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The problem is the cost of +3 +6 +9, got 16m and all is gone only by testing modules to +6...

brisk marsh
tidal cypress
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If you guys are trying to fix the economy without over inflating it don’t make the loot boxes RNG. How do you balance the fact one person got 10 lattice fragments from spending 100k dream dust and one person got a single one? It just seems counter intuitive to control the flow of resources by RNG. If you really wanted to control things make it guaranteed exchanges for a set amount.

kindred grotto
brisk marsh
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yeah? i walked away with 0 upgrades and 30m etheria coins

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i'd rather have your module luck than the coins

kindred grotto
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Nope didnt get any upgrade

copper patio
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What pisses me off about this event the most is that is not sustainable to continue doing max refreshes in everything, every single day…
— Max refresh stamina because odds are super low
— Max refresh arena for coins
— Max refresh event

WTF?! This needs to stop 😵😕

true sage
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72 prototype shards from 50 boxes

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way better rates then lattice

lethal swallow
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if we get 70% back, just like shells, there would be no problem

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even 50% would be okay

unique falcon
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Now we continue waiting

lethal swallow
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just wait

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they will put serious effort into fixing the event for the rerun, keys will be 100 gems

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very serious effort

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How to fix Economy

  1. Open Steam client
  2. Search for Star Saviour
  3. Click "Apply for CBT"
  4. Wait for the CBT starting tomorrow, hopefully you get selected
lethal swallow
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who said they were trying to fix the eco?

unique falcon
lethal swallow
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👍

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There is also a CBT video ( around 1h~) on youtube that was live streamed today

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they show gameplay etc but only in Korean

unique falcon
halcyon obsidian
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I didn't even know it existed

lethal swallow
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it has been in the developments for ~3years I believe

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also a PVP gacha

rose moth
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Looks like Gooner Garbo

lethal swallow
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most of the characters are from counterside, which is not a gooner game

unique falcon
lethal swallow
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cs is love

unique falcon
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I can believe that

halcyon obsidian
cobalt gull
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Guys, do you think is it worth to use 300 diamonds to change 5 lattice fragments?7482uwucat1

nova spade
violet hazel
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1 lattice = 3000 gems

cobalt gull
nova spade
mellow agate
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this better give me some good amount of lattice fragments later, only got like 5-7 with 64 opened. if it still give me sh#ts im entering my villain arc ZeroTwoAnnoyed

tough vortex
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U mean doomer arc

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U gonna join us white knight damn

nova spade
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Don’t go lattice

true sage
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prototype shards pretty good

nova spade
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Souba approved

mellow agate
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how much u guys get?

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/ 30 box

true sage
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80 boxes 106 shards for prototype

mellow agate
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the gems one also not bad tbh

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but i might need more lattice fraggy

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gem one i do 30. got 550~ around twice

true sage
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Got enough for 10 pull, waiting for next character drop

mellow agate
mellow agate
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i hope it doesnt happen

true sage
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I cry

nova spade
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Heard doing 10 box at a time give more latticedorodoro

true sage
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no jinx

nova spade
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No rumours

mellow agate
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5SSR

true sage
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10 SR I cry

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I want minimum 3

nova spade
true sage
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for the perfect lattice

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That’s all I want tbh

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overall depending what ur spending feathers on it was a good event, however I’m still pissed about the bug

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good reward wise* on what you spend it on

mellow agate
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aye

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that will be a win win

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if u get 3 ssr

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free perf latticr

true sage
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Yeh that’s why I saved em

mellow agate
true sage
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instead of single pulling

mellow agate
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i saw some cursed image before

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so my heart has not been ready

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for a 10 pull

true sage
nova spade
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A screen full of purple

true sage
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🥹

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blame u lisa if that happens

lucid flint
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Discord is a ghost town compared to what it was

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😦

fossil nexus
nova spade
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Average 3-5k in inferno thread now it’s a ghost town
Less doomer,marathoner,bootlicker,white knight

And dev don’t care no more about inferno nerf

fossil nexus
charred fractal
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No patchnotes aswell i hope they dont give them us 2h before maint again...

fossil nexus
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Even if it did, devs move too slow and don't acknowledge in time

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The most we get is discord mod acknowledgement

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I've been saying early on, they need to ramp up in game official communication

fossil nexus
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Probably saving for that?

charred fractal
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Yeah but the reset is in 5 days (4 days some hours) so on monday and mist likely they wont work on weekend so better give Patch now instead of 2h before maint

nova spade
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Release patch note 2-1 day before update is the track record

charred fractal
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They did it 2h before maint last time

lucid flint
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I just don't understand why they don't hype their new units, they wait like 2 days before they drop

inner pebble
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because their banner cycles are pretty fucked up

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and also because they dont know how to do marketing, comms, customer service, QA

true sage
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we had a bug in the event that most subsequently meant people couldn’t complete the journal, all we got is 100 gems and dead silence after that

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if they are not doing anything for a problem in their event don’t expect anything else to be done tbh

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simple comms would of cleared up this mess, when do they learn

fossil nexus
fossil nexus
nova spade
true sage
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pretty much

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said they would have a meeting, had meeting, “good talk”

fossil nexus
true sage
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good talk but no action

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I don’t blame him, just lack of comms

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don’t care who it’s from

fossil nexus
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In game messages, official roadmap/plans of action/direction

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Right now they only address issues when it's already made people quit lmao

lucid flint
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I'll never understand Dev brain, it hurts when I think about how easy it would've been to keep the community somewhat happy

fossil nexus
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Other games very quickly put stuff out when something is bad

lucid flint
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I've been playing silver and blood and man their reaction time on fixing issues is crazy

fossil nexus
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And I've said it before, but throw the players a bone.

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Imagine random in game communication that just drops us 3-5M Silver with a message saying they are working towards fixing the economy

lucid flint
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Even down to things like not showing the new unit at the PVP event

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like are they even thinking at all

fossil nexus
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A lot less complaints because it addresses the problem, says the actual devs are looking at it and it throws players a bone to help with the drought. You'll still get doomers but far less

fossil nexus
true sage
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who knows what their thinking, realistically if they were able to give everyone 25 free pulls and a LD pull, they should have been able to deal with everything else

lucid flint
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Imagine a 1 character reset when a new banner drops, which would literally drive sales of units and help the community

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But nah I'm not a dev

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What do I know

nova spade
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Here what I think, if what they are already discussing are somewhat confirm

Post a announcement on the future change and just put everything is subject to change and shit and we wouldn’t be dooming all day

true sage
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it’s just mind boggling, their priorities are dumb as fck

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3100 hydras worth of pulls is more important apparently then all the other game breaking issues

lucid flint
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Meanwhile we never know what new units are coming so we can't get hyped lol

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This would also drive sales

true sage
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guess they couldn’t back out of the public’s eye in case of backlash

lucid flint
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If they hyped their units

ashen trout
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i dont like anyone here, especially Vampy

nova spade
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roadmap with no date also would've help alot

tough vortex
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C said he only likes vox beard

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He is buying his only fans soon

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@soft yew

true sage
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like u know what’s strange, mods also dissing the game rofl

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I find that hilarious

fossil nexus
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It's like when something bad happens (like current event), they just go "It's okay, when the event reruns it will be fixed" and it's like they don't understand that people quit and trust is lost by rhen

true sage
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a little too late to think for the future

tough vortex
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Ask staff is more like ask the staff that's dead and when rise from the grave ur issue will be heard

true sage
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1 week event, has ended we didn’t get a single response

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gonna end up like every other game, big apology post

tough vortex
fossil nexus
tough vortex
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Eu people are saying it's half dead

true sage
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yeh but that’s for the future, deal with the immediate issues

tough vortex
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Can someone from eu go check

fossil nexus
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Also apparently "We will use feedback from this event to balance future ones"

true sage
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this events bug is what pissed me off the most

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patched fixed, heres 100 hydra, not retroactively applied

tough vortex
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If u discredit the past

fossil nexus
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Again, keep looking at the future while the present starves

tough vortex
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Future is already removed

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From the book

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Past present also play a key role

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Waiting for a unpromised future is just pay us please

true sage
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they said they did heaps of testing and concluded this event is fantastic, while I do admit besides the lattice boxes it was good, the bug is the problem not the event

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everyone that logged a ticket got a reply of it’s fixed, do the run again

halcyon obsidian
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Has this company run a gacha before?

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Because they’re making rookie mistakes

true sage
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shitty automatic responses and lack of understanding what went on and whatever internal comms they were given was shit is all I can say

halcyon obsidian
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And any copium for the future is just that

fossil nexus
halcyon obsidian
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I haven’t played that. Did they run it into the ground or did they run it successfully?

halcyon obsidian
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I just can’t get over how much Goodwill they burned from the beta. They made all those content creators look like absolute morons.

glossy niche
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Its likely under a different game manager

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I dont remember there being 20 spinwheels in sword of covallaria

tough vortex
glossy niche
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I thought it was a good game. Better than etheria rng hell

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Jack was one of the league of angels devs

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So i kinda get the rng hell

halcyon obsidian
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I feel kind of bad for some of the ones that went full hog on the game.

charred fractal
slim harness
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They don't want to give us too many, u know, there is chinese players coming soon.

halcyon obsidian
halcyon obsidian
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In fact, there’s just so much competition I really don’t know what the developers are doing

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This is not a space where you can just sit still and say trust me, bro

glossy niche
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Etheria is kinda kaka now

true sage
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there’s probally gonna be a wall of text by next week from them if not dead game

glossy niche
halcyon obsidian
# glossy niche Etheria is kinda kaka now

Public opinion has already cemented yeah. You see the occasional delusional person stating otherwise but I imagine the sensor tower will be dismal this month and worse the next.

true sage
fossil nexus
true sage
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but very grim after that

glossy niche
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Yeah its actually easy to keep a game open

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With minimal staff

halcyon obsidian
true sage
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they made what, $7 mil estimated since launch?

halcyon obsidian
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I think that was the figure yeah

glossy niche
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It all depends if the company is willing to keep a dead game open

fossil nexus
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I thought they'd still do 2M atleast but after all these fiascos? Doubt even that

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Many whales have quit

true sage
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$7 mil mobile, pc sales not included

halcyon obsidian
glossy niche
halcyon obsidian
glossy niche
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But the company can keep the game open if it wants

fossil nexus
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But let's see

halcyon obsidian
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Well, there might be some trickle over from last month because it launched kind of at the end of the month, didn’t it?

glossy niche
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Seems like many new players still joining

halcyon obsidian
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So you’ll still see some of that launch spike in July

fossil nexus
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Usually games get half on 2nd month

glossy niche
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Yeah 2nd honeymoon

true sage
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just look at black beacon, it wasn’t even a game issue and look where it’s now

halcyon obsidian
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Gacha games just drop off so fast

ashen trout
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what happened to black beacon now

true sage
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comms man, that’s all it is

ashen trout
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like how's it doing

halcyon obsidian
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Again, it’s like they’re living in a vacuum where they don’t understand how competitive the market is

fossil nexus
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So 3-4M but because of all the controversies, I expect 2Mish. Will be happy to be wrong

glossy niche
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Is black bacon ded?

ashen trout
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I know all about the flop launch tho and uneven rewards

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and the buggy mess

true sage
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dunno I deleted after that controversy so did thousands of others

glossy niche
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I didnt like black bacon at all

ashen trout
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their subreddit is still up

true sage
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looks dead lol video from stix showing something

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anyway if they are reading, why was their no clarification on the bug that was supposedly fixed

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that’s all we wanted to know

ashen trout
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what happened now

true sage
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and steps to remedy the situation

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the journal was bugged

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it didn’t complete the abyss logs

ashen trout
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the journal? like the quest menu in dreamscape?

true sage
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they fixed it apparently but didn’t apply retroactively

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yes

ashen trout
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tbh I didn't notice cuz I always get light/dark abyss

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only got green once zzz

true sage
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yeh that problem too

ashen trout
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and I got dark again today lol

true sage
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so people who completed it by end of event rng won

ashen trout
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ig more lettuce shards from the shard trading but like

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woulda like to complete the event zzz

true sage
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for example someone didn’t see reason legendary stage since it was fixed and couldn’t complete it

ashen trout
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but the rng will balance out surely right according to c

true sage
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apparently

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rng balances out 🤣

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not how rng works matey

ashen trout
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@snow frost guarantees the RNG will balance out

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or ur money back

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and you'll have fun

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and etheria will be saved

true sage
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like I said, make ur packs $0 to $100, see how u like rng

ashen trout
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this event has been calced so religiously and carefully

ashen trout
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have u seen the CALCS

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It's like the holy bible

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this event is the best thing since sliced bread

inner pebble
ashen trout
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💀

inner pebble
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do we know what events are replacing this and shell story tomorrow?

ashen trout
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it rhymes with

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sage crumble

true sage
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another one but this time keys cost 600

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🙃

ashen trout
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apparently they gonna fix this event

fossil nexus
ashen trout
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global beta test coming together to fix this event

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our power

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for Japan China and korea

true sage
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I mean cage would be ok this time now that I’m stronger

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but it’s a crappy event

ashen trout
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I sure as hell ain't getting 3k but hope I can get 2.5k

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I need all the lettuce i can get

true sage
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u know what, give us a wheel as an apology with decent rewards for 7 days

inner pebble
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their version of decent rewards would be: 50k coins on every wheel segment

true sage
ashen trout
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Jack was not live laugh loving when the wheel landed on 10x pulls

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when he spun it

inner pebble
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and the wheel costs 300 gems a spin and every spin the amount of coins decreases

true sage
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cmon, they gave us all 27 pulls

nova spade
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now that we talk about wheel, where is the spin on EWS event in game

true sage
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they can do it

nova spade
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did we get scam

fossil nexus
inner pebble
glossy niche
ashen trout
true sage
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I see no difference from ews live to here

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same visibility

fossil nexus
inner pebble
ashen trout
gusty spoke
nova spade
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no see c these pass 4 day or so

gusty spoke
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Ah

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I though I saw him in general

glossy niche
nova spade
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busy playing brainrot game on the platform

glossy niche
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I guess he gathered all the feedback he needed

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So no need to comm here

nova spade
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did 46 box today got 4 fking frag

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6 fking keys

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14 yellow left and only
4 black

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cant progress guide cuz no retroactive fix

glossy niche
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Donr worry

nova spade
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even car is cucked by guide

glossy niche
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Just buy more keys

nova spade
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GRRRRRRR

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car buy keys and still got cucked lol

glossy niche
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Rng will balance itself out

ashen trout
mellow agate
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the lattice frag rate too rng

tough vortex
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Looks like there ain't gonna be patch notes

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The main should be in like more 2 hours

nova spade
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what we want 🦴 , what we get

inner pebble
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they already told us the future of the game, etheria EOS

mellow agate
ashen trout
mellow agate
inner pebble
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i got a total of 15 fragments from half the box

mellow agate
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doesnt sound good

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maybe SR pulls is the way

inner pebble
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depends how lucky you feel

mellow agate
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luck nvr my thing

inner pebble
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also if you are the real goddesque, nice xiada videos!

tough vortex
mellow agate
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see me cleave back those cleavers and bruisers FrogeCamera

charred fractal
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So neverzf_hahaha

mellow agate