#Dreamscape did not fix the economy the CEO PROMISED
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only 177 bruh wtf
bro i was 110 yesterday because i didnt know it was timed
i just went in and afked
with my stall team
this beyontin is triggering me
lmao
i also didnt know you could have reset or i would have had like 280 lol
cant use blue and dark, 2 best turn meter gone
tsuki+lily
and i get this bullshit no AI targeting nerdy girl
on grass ill just run fangus, yeli, val, freya, kloss
might use beyontin in the place of something
sleeping on doki turn meter smh
she ahh in here, probably doing the same shit as beyontin, S3ing valerian
you can click whatever target you want your units to attack
Just gotta tune her right
today was good, I am hopeful for many of the things we addressed and discussed today
ngl, when everyone including CCs say its bad, it's really bad. the problem is not that it's bad (cause lets be real, kinda expect it by now), but it's because the devs said it will be good, then turns out it's just the same s*** rewards they have for other events. if we can get 1 gold lattice weekly from playing arena, I really was expecting 1 gold lattice from dreamscape (and i mean accessible by participation, not locked behind clearing inferno boss or RNG nonsense). Devs, you do realize that if we don't have lattices, there is LITERALLY NO POINT in spending/pulling new characters, cause we have 10 characters waiting to be leveled.
yeah they are dead silence
Ews
Ews or eos
EWS to EOS prob
Then CN launch
Then debacle then EOS then new gacha
No rumours tho
then we get a new game call Etheria: Update
Yes I just realize all the dream boxes listed rewards are "chance to obtain". You could spend 4k of the mats to only get 1 xp chip. Was like wtf is this?
dang the got ews tshirts
I Just find out the light portal its not rng
I Always go on dark side but i decided to go on light and find out this

Gacha gamers never beating the allegations about not reading
Its Better for me to go in light cause its about 20/25k safe coins , in dark i Always go out with 0 😂😂
Reading? Pff rules are made tò be broken
they fixed an apparent bug in the missions
why was the missions not cleared with the fix
Cause it was intended
According to them
If we didn't complain it would have never been a bug btw
I want an ews tshirt
After game dead you can wear it for laughs
what's there to cry abt
"game philosophy"
All events are RNG, what are they smoking,
this doesn't even feel like rng
its first rewards and then go into debt
link that man tectones wolfgrave sword summoning video
i mean generate rng code is faster than code with so many if right? so i know why they love rng so much
The codes are rng
There’s no end of players are quitting in waves
Dream Activity Bug: Missing Quest Progress
It sounds like you're experiencing a frustrating bug with your morning Dream Activity. You mentioned that you encountered an issue around the 3/4 mark of the quest, preventing you from receiving proper progress, even after completing all related tasks.
This event might have been the final nail in the coffin for many
Event to fix economy became the event to destroy the etheria economy
it didn't destroy the economy, what it destroyed was the little bit of trust we had left
It destroyed their economy with more players leaving
33 boxes 🙂🙂🙂 how wonderful
They literally on every post defending this event 😩😩😩 every post.
people are allowed to disagree with you
at this rate, there won’t be players to agree or disagree.
just hoping it turns around somehow . all the negativity is making the game so unappealing . (granted, it’s reasonable majority of the time)
i did 50 i got 4 dont worry we all are having so much fun
Just another day in Etheria 🥰🥰🥰 amazing
dont worry rng will balance out 
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the things they do to be on payroll
“You’re complaining cause you low rolled twice” - sembu in a few minutes
😭😭🤣🤣🤣 I’m in tears bruh 🤣🤣
Clown emoji next lmfaoo
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
wait thats almost like 1.5 lattice for the entire event… for a weekly rotating event… man wat no way.

HE SAID THE THING
I gotchu i wouldnt leave him hanging
Yeah it's not going to balance out for every player. Some players will get lucky. Others will get nothing from the "most generous event". Those players will get frustrated and quit. Easily avoidable but we have to have RNG everywhere.
It's not like the event has a pity system
I just found out you can low roll the "safe route" too. Only came out with 20k. Brutal
But this person said they low rolled with 4 out of 50 boxes! AHHH IDK WHO TO BELIEVE

Still tryna reason logically With them

How it feels on the other side
Yeah it's like they don't understand how statistics and probability works. Sure someone out there will get lucky and maybe even get 2-3 lattice from the event. But someone else will get zero outside of the guaranteed from the shop. Fk those guys I guess?
a right on spot comment i saw on reddit by user Neet91 :
nah, they definitely did their research. just look at the packs they released.
it's just they decided to make events that way - barely any resources to buy items in the event shops, adding rng to currency gains, adding p2w to events, bad timing for the events (industry standard is that u 1) if u play daily u finish the event/buyout the shop at half the event time; that's why events typicially last 2+ weeks and 2) devs normally still have the eventshop open for another week so people can still buy stuff when that forgot)
u also don't see modern gachas have limited play time (limited daily energy) but etheria has it and they designed the game to the point that if u don't refresh daily u basically not progression at all.
we shit on them being cluless but in reality they are just greedy ass devs that think they can get away with game design decisions like it's the early 2010s. they sprinkle some modern, decent designs on top to cover up their greed
I mean the refreshing daily part idc about but the rest sure
That's a hoyo ass complaint
wait you can get more ? i always end up with 20k ish with each keys (golden portals)
I somehow got like 45 yesterday
Maybe the legendary path gives extra
We're all cursed down here
you can get 50k if u get big chest upgrade on stage 1
100k+ is possible on dark but good luck with that
I mean, if you get this everyday for a week and then stuff from the other shop aswell that probably IS more rewards than any other event they've done.
Still feels like ass though to be so RNG and then throwing P2W key buying ontop.
Can you even clear any part of the shop?
the p2w key was the final icing on top that 100% confirmed for me that they dont give a single shit about how tone deaf they are.
this is after buying 12 keys. 6 yesterday and 6 today
they openly are telling you, they dont give a shit about you and this will continue
i had 400 gems before this event and ethernet dropped. Cleared ethernet, bought the keys and spammed gem boxes
im guessing with each key you lost about ~180 crystals per run?
i have 1686 gems now. Yesterday after all the runs i lost 300 gems overall, today i think i lost 400
so it wasnt terrible but then again its all rng, i could easily have gotten super low rolls
rng:restart T_T
eos:restart
someone hasnt play the event
waiting for another 100 hydra compensation for a bug that was fixed but not fixed 🙂
sweeping the minority affected under the rug /clap
The reddit post is on point, like the thing I brought out before, the devs know the economy issue of the game but decided not to fix it to milk the whales more for more crumble.
Notice every pack is slammed with silvers, and the "juicier" ones have golden lattice in it.
They know, they know everything
So nothing new
Ok
Yeah and the whales are getting fucking pissed. Game is heading for EOS sooner than I thought
What packs are you guys buying with the dreamscape currency? The lattice pack seems to be such low % chance to get the shards. Is something else better to buy?
wow
They might as well make the redemption codes RNG too, then combine all 3 thresholds into 1 and you fight doki/aurora/terror randomly every round
Heck do it for the shells too
you know what, make it RNG whether you can launch the game or not
So if you don’t buy the keys you just can’t complete one part of the shop
as with every event they have. You have to spend money on the event currency or you can't buy everything
I’m not talking about buying everything. I’m talking about buying only 1 of the items
ive not done the math but it could be tough
I mean, you are already on day 6 rn since u maxed refresh
You only have 3 keys left
Best option is you have gotten 35 of the gold tofu frag from the shop
idk if this was discussed yet, not reading 4000 messages
I wanted to assume this reset every single day so we can get guranteed 8 Light and dark every single day for at the very least 5 lattice fragments. I feel like this should be the bare minimum outside of rng boxes
i was not really mad at the event until now, this sounds stupid
people complain they can't reach the top reward so they make it add up and people complain they can't get repeat rewards 


admittedly the top reward is pretty trash in this case
but still
the rewards for 300 and up are a joke compared to the 100 and 150, this event is actually one of the worst events yet if you cant even gurantee 5 fragments every single day
and top rewards are only reachable by spending money on keys anyway
if it was within a day
Is it possible to quit lindelle fight to retry it ?
if that track reset, players who were still trying to climb pve progression walls to get to farming inferno and such could still score the 150 and get the ld coins daily for 56+21 ld daily to get the perfect lattice
since it doesnt reset they are only gonna get 16 instead of 56
making newer players feel even worse
and more punished for behing behind or starting late or not whaling
just adding up to more players losing interest
It was suppose to be the event that will fix the economy 🙂
they managed to take an event that does give a good amount of rewards on paper, finalized
and still make it feel bad for everyone
That's not even the issue here
f2p doesnt like it cuz its p2w
p2w doesnt like it cuz its stupid and just give us packs
They acknowledged that there is a problem with the game economy
and said it will be fixed by upcoming events
and this is what we get
Honestly if they didn't say anything it wouldn't be as bad
Maybe it is better to just stay silent 
Look at this guy being ungrateful
Just Be happy you got something and dance for the devs!
Back in my day we waited months to get upgrade materials
that’s how they usually operate, claiming that providing a roadmap or details about future plans will lead to unhealthy expectations in the playerbase
yet they fail to deliver on the one time they gave a teaser for this event
is it worth to buy keys ?
No
since you guys are too busy crying to do the math
No one says rewards are bad
You clearly missed the discussion with cm last night. Scroll way up
not reading all that
some people did
Ok they you are making a point no one disagrees with lol
Idiots then
Anyways Reddit posts are pointless. Go ahead. Good day 🫡
So this post is also pointless then
Good day
Yours is yes
Where is my post?
No this post has direct communication
That's called a comment
Go read it. Enjoy
😂
do you seriously want to defend this event?
even C knows this event is shit
Did you even read?
the post? yes
It's not even "defending" anything. It's just "pointing out" that the event isn't all that bad.
I guess anyone just trying to make sense is automatically "defending" in this discord
🤦♂️
Now before anyone says anything again that doesn't mean it can't be better
https://tenor.com/view/sky-sky-dota-gif-25913014 doomposters
Kinda agree on the reddit posts since out of the blue im almost 10m silver while i was before the event like 2m max
That 8 mil silver in 2 days
In normal event or farm that was nowhere possible
the problem is this loot box, which is totally rng, you can spend all the dust and not get any lattice frag
Is that confirmed tho
YEAH THERE WAS A SCREENSHOT OF A 5 PULL /S
if there was a pity for frags on the loot boxes
10m you can't do almost anything practically, another thing, this will last 1 week, after that it will be precarious again
why do they have to hide it
I never said about it being enough just said its more generous that we've had by far
a little better than nothing is still nothing
We'll some ppl have different opinions about little
If you're hungry
Just eat
I'll never know what it does 😔
She is ez just do her
yer ez
um wtf
rude af
I already beat her 💅
I just wanted to know what the mystery icon does

tho this event def isnt
new player frriendly
mainly cuz of the element limits
like girl if red is banned, no lian
now what
Gray
whut if red and green banned
dps Lily yo
They both cant be banned tho
Ngl gray was my best unit on beta
High base attack stat
fr
this is the difficulty i miss, beta kururu
etherent Tiamat lol
100k dust
kinda curious how much of the lattice people have been able to get from the shop with the l/d currency without using gems for any extra keys.
I got 10 today
8 yesterday
thats the box
Oh
im talking about the shop where you exchange the l/d shards
i can get 10 frag after 2 days no extra keys
so like maybe can buy 40-ish of them with no refresh? unsure
I think we need minimum of 2 refresh
To complete whole thing
Of lattice
for all 50?
Ye
Since it's 6 days
And we get 3 keys per day
But we can redeem only one lattice per day
sometimes that extra key from the guide or something idk how long that lasts for
Yeah
That guide is the issue
We might need to refresh on last two days maybe
Once
yeah i just dont know what we get or when it ends or w/e.
where does this idea of "complete" come from? it seems to be like they just picked a massively high number so you can just get what you want not as a goal
just the lattice part
which like lattice only real bottleneck atm
Yeah
pog
thats like super reasonable imo
One from that daily mission
Three from daily refresh
I think they can fix this event very easily
Like infinity train
But there are some full cleave stages imo
Like yeli abyss
That thing just cleaves me
Entirely
some of the end bosses... not a joke
i think this is easier than first release infinity train but atleast the difficulty selector helps with this event
First infinity try
I only reached normal S
That was so tanky
Even def reducing did nothing
damn S!! this guy must have lily
you couldnt do anything in the first infinity train without xiada

Refresh?
thats max
Key refresh
1
not too shabby
I’m almost at 1k point reward. Fight boss 3x
I don’t have gens for keys. Refusing buy gems or any packs for awhile.
i dont think gems for keys is worth? idr the exact math per expected lattice or w/e
No
Just treat the event as random stuff from doing way too much work and move on
I’m not gonna stress over it. After convo last night they clearly know it’s not a good event or look
at least youve got a healthy mindset about it
Reward amounts are good. Time, rng and event presented was no bueno
atleast this gives me something to do while I auto my shell runs
yeah i think like I take manual down the 1-2 units that will fuck me up then auto
i guess i missed last nights convo
they need to give free keys to boost this dogshit
the flash update didnt fix anything, u still need to do the guide again
oh
For those wondering - this is max key refresh both days so far
And this was 100 chests, so 400,000 DD
How many times fight Lindelle? Scores seems so low for fighting 4-5+ times no?
Also how far into the guide?
I tested a couple times, also double healed water lindelle cause I was auto’ing while cleaning the house and wasn’t paying attn but haven’t scored less than 200 on green/blue. I don’t have Lily so
I don’t get to compete for single fight dmg rankings on anything
I doubt it tbh. But I haven’t done the math or anything
Abyss is hard though
O ya last page is legit 5 days wtf
I’m just waiting to get the abyss rng lmao
The only ones I’ve completed are the ones I’ve gotten
Idk. The rng of the event giga pisses me off, but the rewards all things considered, aren’t BAD. They most certainly aren’t the injection that Jack promised tho. I think the thing I find most disgusting/disrespectful is the cost to refresh the entrance keys. 300 gems is a fucking joke.
Def not a new player friendly event either
I'm just opening crystal boxes. Been getting about 400+ Crystals and 400,000+ coins everyday.
that's exactly what i'm doing, max crystals boxes into max buy keys, been lowering key cost to 100 / 150 that way
Haven't been buying keys but I can see that definitely working. If they lowered the cost of keys a bit it would be really good. You could nearly go currency neutral and still farm out the event
Dang that seems better than lattice boxes possibly
2 days in and only 3 lattice shards
Shell Story gives 10 at the end at then 2 extra for each additional dragonball even with just 1.5 a day we'd get more lattice frags from this one.
The RNG just sucks though. Opening so many boxes and not getting what you want most of the time just feels terrible even if the rewards are technically better than a normal event.
I feel like every box should give silver and training data. And then every 5, 10, whatever number of boxes you are guaranteed one of the, let's call them "premium rewards"
Then you can also have a pool of extra premium rewards you can possibly get with some luck.
Nothing wrong with a little bit of RNG in an event, but it should be 20% or so difference from getting lucky to unlucky, not someone gets 1.5 lattice and someone else gets .3 of a lattice
Wow this new event is so economy friendly
Must try it
I fought the abyss Lily and I could not clear it
It was too hard because cachi the cumguzzler was giving out immunity so no way to control them and they are hella fast
Lily obol
Bro I tried to be fast but I had to give up my effect accuracy and I wasn't landing shit on those guys
its comments like this that make me realize ill never know the plight of casuals lol
But wouldn't it be better, less annoying design, to simply have the max number of keys per day X 7 (21 total) and you get enough resources to clear out the most valuable items from the shop? Maybe you can buy a key if you miss out on a day or something as a failsafe? The levels of gambling they feel the need to bake into everything is beyond egregious.
Tbh if they gave us max 7-10 keys with a chance to get 10 more I’d be down with this event.
Giving us more chance to clear shop stuff considering the heavy rng
is it possible to add another difficulty level above abyss? i feel like the difficulty is much too easy for this event
I agree
Devs need to give us an actual real challenge to stimulate the competitive generates in us players
Our marathon is too easy
Make it fun again @devs
tag c
His time will come
c loves to come
And come he will
Has nothing to do with casual or not, gear luck is a harsh mistress
And summon luck 
I think there is a bug with Black side . All gamble choice 50% were failed for me . 6 times in a row
To the point that , I have only play the left side
Plz fix the issue on the left side with the 50% choice win or loss for x2 reward
I've lost 8 of the 9 that I tried as well
And 2 of the 3 85% chances on the growing chest that I've tried
does'nt sound tough more like pitiful... before your days most gachas dont need a few months
3 lattice fragments from 6 keys, hell yeah what an event
Ur just unlucky. I tried twice and won both times
Personally my rate of fail this is alot more than 50%, i did this 15 times 13 time lost
Working as intended
Ok officially this event is very bad very very bad since some abyss bosses are like impossible to kill and i will not lose time to find the way to kill them for those bad rewards
Terrible RNG, terrible rewards, terrible timesink for Inferno/Abyss bosses. The only people thinking this is a good event are those that think spending 1800gems and 2hrs a day for a couple million coins is peak gameplay
@stark hemlock

Just say with me fuck u jack , I don't care even if he kicked me out of this discord because I have quit this game already
Oh ho u triggered some white knights who are jack fans with that
He lied
Said pet data 20k and is 8k now
Just Greedy devs what not care players community and just want milk money,, imagine do a summer event what is just p2w recolors skins and the biggest rewards event is just a casino rng scam
No waste money in this devs are trash and they are Speedrun EOS
They said it would be the most resource rich, F2P friendly event to help fix the economy. The controversy surrounding the Etheria: Restart Dreamscape event reaches through the Etheria Reddit and Etheria Discord! Promised as a resource-rich opportunity for F2P players, this event has turned into a disappointing pay-to-win cash grab, sparking outr...
Guy nails it as usual
arguments in threads like these ones is the reason why I'll never stop playing 
How to play EtheLily Reroll
Step 1: log in at 5AM local time
Spend the next 2 hours trying to use up all your stamina
Step 2: Be late at your job cuz your marathon is more important
Step 3: constantly check your phone and redo failed clears
Step 4: Get fired from your job
Step 5: cope and continue running your marathon
Step 6: spend the next 4 hours trying to clear the events
Step 7: Eat shit
Step 8: you never picked up that call from your gf. Break up
Step 8: continue coping and running
Step 8: redo more failed runs
Step 9: lose 10 pvp battles
Step 10: go to bed at 2AM
preach 
Ngl, I was wondering what was going on. Half of my union feels like they've quit overnight when they were just active last week. Hearing about a lot of people quit in the world chat recently too. I'm still playing and enjoying the game but then again, I can clear most of the content. It's pretty clear that the player base is shrinking here and there's a ton of unhappy players. Acknowledging the problem and moving forward to creating a solution is the best way to recover. Defending the game and ignoring the immediate blaring sirens is not the way to help support the growth of this game.
game's too focused on their esports tourney that no one is going to watch. maybe next week when the event is already over 
has anyone else done enough key refreshes to say they’ve done enough as a f2p would through the event? want to compare results before i yap
id love for them to publish the total average gains of the playerbase from this event to prove that it did get better at the end lol
cuz yeah the ones getting the jackpot may be quiet but the ones not so lucky are so many and so loud
that would be a bad number due to key cost
it’s over 100 dollars worth of crystals to refresh and ppl might not get crystal boxes to pay for keys
I am refreshing daily
These are all boxes left to go
Have gotten around 40 frags give or take
did you do all your runs today
Ye
ty
Dont think you need to max refresh as a f2p to open all 300 boxes
But they are quite ass
Using the gem boxes to buy keys as f2p so you do more runs to try and guarantee the fixed lattice frag shop is a better strat
that’s what i’m doing yeah
But it's less "fun"
i’m at like -500 but i haven’t started today
any event shouldnt have to cost gems period.
Yep
And should have all fixed rewards
Not even having to "prio" what you want to buy
Just do daily event stuff and at the end get all rewards
Could do e7 way where you can use gems to get all rewards quicker
But not more rewards than a f2p
Cuz rn I could be max refreshing daily and be able to buy as good as 600 boxes
While a f2p wont be able to do that in the 7d
15 keys bought, cleared abyss for every legendary and roughly 200+ score each boss fight
and 18 gem boxes left. Didnt open any others
That's rough. Looks like I'm not even going to be able to buy out all the frags from shop without buying more keys.
did you count how many gems you've gotten from these boxes?
looking at averages is just a really bad way of looking at this especially as it is an rng based loot system.
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Averages hide the spread: extreme luck vs extreme bad luck
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perception of fairness is more than what the numbers can ever represent in rng systems. ie if one player does all content gets nothing vs another player opening one box and getting more than that player
What would be more helpful is if they looked at the data for the exchange shop and not the boxes as these rewards are "guaranteed", the boxes were just poorly executed
im probably roughly -900 gems, had poor rng today
but thats counting 9 free keys as well right?
my screenshot is 9 free keys+3 mission reward keys+15 paid keys
got it thank you for the info
as a rough estimate unless your scores are insane its gonna be tough for a pure f2p
yeah probably gonna cost -3 or -4k overall gems to buy out lattice and gem boxes for more shards
or what do you call them, dream data
Volkin is 100% shill, even though I respect his grift as he’s a family man and has mouths to feed. The CCP will probably disappear him if he said anything bad about XD given where he is atm too.
My F2P keys got me this today. Which IS the most daily rewards we’ve had from an event so far.
Don’t like the event overall though.
yeah but its still random if you get that again or not
This is actually the lowest amount of crystals I’ve had so far
my lowest was 120 from 20 boxes 
Ouch! That’s exactly why it sucks
i got 80 with f2p keys wouldnt call that good at all
like u do get more stuff if ure an endgame player but it does not feel good to like not get the resource listed in the box title a crap ton of times
so is crystal box the way to go?
Not really. I would say spending on refreshes to complete the shop lattice and going to lattice drag box would be better
But at the end it’s based on what you need
Still not going to be able to complete the shop though
I think so
hmm
overall yeah
i am 99.9% sure they capped yeli follow ups in dreamscape lmfao
for you or the enemy
Are you on the Celince stage?
Check the stage mutation
no im on lindelle
and i havent seen a single 3 proc follow up in over an hour of restarting
Meanwhile…
@snow frost almost willing to bet my house on this at this point...if real, theyve really gotta stop this shit.
i find it hard to believe that this is even legal without noting it
i expect transparency like they would if CN were in on this
like jesus christ are the devs really this scummy
holy fuck
Honestly, i think that the fact the game was denied in CN is kinda the first red flag, the second being there is a lot of rng without probabilities or percentages shown.
im pretty sure they have goals to release in CN
which is laughable atm
Well i hope they fix all this before that happens, because CN will eat them alive.
lets hope they dont lol
so CN does eat them alive
thats how things actually get fixed
rich chinese vs cheap poor americans hmmmm
well on the bright side, my money can go to other games now
seems wuwa is doing great, at least from reviews. will def give that a try now tho it is not turn based sadly
Has anyone done the math, are you able to get all 50 lattice frags from the shop without buying keys?
ill probably go back at some point
its a good game
I've seen ppl saying you can't clear lattice frags without spending
its rng it will balance out 
depends on your lindelle scores. If you can hit 300-350 daily and you clear abyss dark/light daily then maybe. Best guess you will most likely be at 35 ish
yeah, i dont think this one is rng lmfao
its more likely they capped it to keep you from restarting so much
sadly ive been saying it for a while, the rng in fights in this game is straight up fucked
well it is because you dont know whats rng and what isnt
its either rng or a "bug" and you never know what it is
and they suck ass at communicating
and have a terrible track record
so you might as well assume its a bug
or worse, malicious intent
it will all balance out 
some day good, some day shit
jokes aside, i agree sometimes the play experience is rough
Who the hell is hitting 300-350 daily?
I’m having a hard time hitting 200-250
on the other boss it wasnt too hard, on the green boss you kinda need 1 of yeli or kholros, without it its kinda tough to hit the 300 mark
I have a decent yeli with best speed gear on dokidoki with fuqiu and freya
Barely getting 150
you need double dps
this same comp has done 280 on asia afaik
or a variation of this comp i think they removed fuck you for someone else
im getting 130s
dinah also works....
no kloss gaming
i mean, im gated by no yeli or kholros....
well lucky for you, yeli is capped apparently 
still rather use her than massiah 
My yeli is on battlewill and most I’ve seen her hit is twice
In 100 resets
What is this scam
pretty sure battlewill isnt that good on her....
i did 3 followups once on lindelle
It’s fine. It’s around the same as the onslaught and harvest
Fury is best of course
are you sure you didnt count the 1st hit as a follow up
bc im almost 100% sure its capped at 2 follow ups
Regardless I doubt many will be hitting 200 on this boss
So rn the f2p route to getting just the lattice in the shop is rough
And you would need to refresh with gems
I love how ppl like to assume shit
I've done 1 base s1 and 3 fua's on lv1 s2
i posted the odds, but go on
im listening
I've had 4 fua's but that was with battlewill set
But without I've already had 3 fua + initial skill
interesting, since ive seen multiple whales also tell me theyve noticed it capped at 2
but a guy with lvl 1 telling me its not

Because I cant do dreamscape anymore you moron
Eu guy failed 3rd grade reading
As I've said before I've seen my yeli do more than 2 fua's on green lindelle
So you can cry about it as much as you like
you lost all credibility posting a video of a union boss lmfao
Unrelated but that Tier 4 Water Union boss is really overturned aswell 🤣
real
rahu begs to differ 
I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing they are screwing with yeli
Rahu gated 🤣
It’s ok. Because it’s a marathon not a sprint

i bet this thing can run a marathon better than you
It’s ok. Because I’m not the one running
She is
running deez nuts amirite fellas
this is where all the rng money goes
Oooh they got a pic of one of the devs along with the Yeli cosplayer!
Is the cosplayer supposed to look like she has special needs?
Where are they like man! Sigh
You’re right! It seems the yeli bug where she only does 1 follow up after s3 is still there in dreamscape
Just made another post about this
I like how the devs trying so hard to make eSports quick to make some sort of shallow recognition to the game.
Little they know all players are in deep dumpster diving to the shit show of PvE content with little to no regard to the PvP meta.
Like literally who is excited to watch bunch of paid actors with knowledge about the game less than it's current players, ppl just busy with the 24/7 PvE RNG grind this shit game has 
Dev brain:
Ppl "Ur game is shit, no one even knows it"
Dev "Bro game has eSports"
Ppl "WHAT REALLY, WoW ok that makes a lot of difference, ur game has eSports must be a top game"
Dev " 😉 "
Idk what's with Chinese devs but I've seen this exact pattern happen in a different game "Tarisland"
Their game is shit and had lot of issues, instead of fixing their game they paid the world top 2 guilds in world of warcraft to compete on their game, no body gave a shit, their game proceeded to die in the same year 
If u need eSport in the 1st 1-2 months of the game to "think" that ur game needs to be relevant with it, then deep down u know urself that ur game is doing really shit
ok
I’ve been doing 2 safe runs and 1 gambling run every 3 keys. I haven’t won the gamble even once lol.
I think these companies vastly overestimate the appeal of esports these days. Content watching is generally shorts or opinion videos—this is even the same on twitch with Asmongold and Hassan being polar and opposite examples of this.
i just hear people saying they lost the 85% chance with the chests and lost more of the 5050s and im like
ok we just gonna go left
do i want more currency to not get lattice shards
eSports were a big thing in 2007-2016 I've lived that era

Now, meh
I know u weren't like this before, I've seen you commenting about the game in many ways, and I don't know who did hurt u to be completely against the playerbase.
Try not be Ms.bend over to the devs for ur own social future in gaming communities, also because it's funny coz ur PFP look like she is bending over aswell, damn
Is there a reason the devs haven't responded?
They hate us 
They have enough money to let it all burn down now
The hypemen did their jobs
Though it cost Volkin his hairline
They either freaking out on what they gonna do after this mess so they taking time to recompose.
Or they honestly just don't give a shit
Both can be very true
Honestly the game was a success pump and dump, so I guess it's very reasonable to dump it while milking copers on their way down to EoS
I wouldn't be mad about it, it's corporate life
based on their previous response the most im expecting out of next changes if they ever come is "lowered the price for dreamscape keys from 300 to 200"
edit "... increased the cap you can buy daily 6 -> 9"
there's 4 days left so this event is a wash. I dont think they're fixing anything on the current event. maybe the next time it cycles back but who knows who will be left by then
Checking in to ask if devs or directors said anything yet
they wont fix anything for current event
Still gonna be starved of resources till the next mid event lol
I bought 15 keys and I calculated I don't need to buy more to get all the lattice boxes and buy out all lattice in the shop. This cost about 4500 crystals but I also bought crystal boxes for some returns. I am close to 40 fragments from the lattice boxes. If I am lucky the remaining boxes gets me enough to finish 1 perfect lattice. 3500-3800 crystals (after calculating crystals from the crystal boxes) for 2 perfect lattices, a lot of etheria coins, exp books, and probably enough to buy the apex summons sounds like a good deal to me.
Although it'd be better if this was free.
Crashing out over an event is just crazy.
😂
i mean its pretty obvious they arent going to give anything free when their midsummer event is literally just recoloured skins and packages
midsummer event for spenders only i guess
i don't think its 4k gems for 2 lattice etc what you mentioned. you're paying that much for half a lattice maybe more depending on luck + extra stuff that you're able to buy for elemental frags
the apex summons alone is worth 3000 crystals if we were going to spend crystals to summon anyways. I would be getting 10 apex summons + have leftover to buy other stuff in the shop.
aren't you able to buy like 5-6 apex summons w/o refreshing at the end
either way arguing is pointless
Not even talking about the event
talking about eSports in general
But the bend over personality makes u say everyone who criticize the game is crashing out
Sad state u've became 

Now who is crashing out lol
How is that crashing out lmfao
Looks like a crash out to me, coz I don't see how anything I said is crash out
U getting too emotional bubu
Chill out
You're crashing out.
Nuh uh... You're crashing out.
Okay guys. Looking good 
Coping on what ? This game, ur literally the one coping on this game not me lol
Can't be me
Yeah that's what I said, what's wrong with it
I'm not the one crashing out
This is crash out to you?
I just said "ok" never even replied to him directly and bro had to reply to me
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
lmaooooooo
I wasn't even talking to you bud
We're in a thread talking about the new event and you randomly turned up and went on a tangent ranting about esports 

"wasn't replying to u" sure bud 
Just saw u on white knight tierlist so I've known u've bend over too far
Sad state 
Keep coping, and keep saying anyone talking about the game "crash out" what a joker lol
This is straight up the only solution for the coin economy: https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1396307316739014716
like it's really not that hard to for the devs to understand that events can't work
Events can work in the long term
But they will not give you 900 mil etheria coins in a single week
yeah they would literally have to give us 10's of millions of coins per event
every single event
They need to find a healthy balance between not giving us too much and giving us too little
but then some players would have a massive surplus of coins, which is one of the things they want to avoid
And that will take a few tweaks
so literally the only thing that makes sense is just buffing coin rates
Better than massive surplus of ppl's quitting 
People quit all the time
i aint completing this bullshit quest in 3 day
Doesnt matter what game
Not as much as this rate, everyone knows it, this is really bad
like how have they not tossed us a bone yet
do something
give us some apology rewards for all the fuck ups
and listen to our demands and buff the actual economy
not a pay 2 win rng fest event
I think the devs were right that this is the most rewards that an event has given, but it is absolutely not a coin fix
that's the only good part about the event
is that there's actually pretty decent rewards
it doesnt really matter in the end if a player looks at the event, sees that u can buy keys for crystals, tries the event, sees the rng layers involved with getting event currency and then rewards from boxes. not a good sign when the devs were trying to say that its a step towards fixing economy, and first impressions u get from this event is basically p2w + rngfest
they're going to keep defending their decisions with the "in the long term, it will work out" excuse
Yeah I heard that recently in here, must be deja vu
yeah it's a pretty bad event all around because of the expectations, optics, and feel that it gives the players
like the event feels so bad to play, and the keys are SO expensive
why can you even buy keys in the first place
also that midsummer event was a slap in the face too
lets not call it an event when only spenders can participate
just like how in the EWS today, when referring to spenders as high account value. lmao
Yeah, this is such a dumb decision.
its even worse when theres a leaderboard too
leaderboard didn't need to be there lel
its basically another layer of fomo to try and get players to spend on keys
are u talking about the mission progress? well i didnt buy keys so im not at that stage yet, cant help u on that sorry
like other folks who have played XD games in the past, this is normal for them
this will not change
same i have 3 day left, and got 3x hallow legendary in a row
yea its wild that even with buying keys u can still get screwed on rng
bullshit flash update was suppose to fix this quest tracking bullshit
i complete 4/5 legendary and it only register the one after the flash update
It's fixed it but it's not retro active. Should be some sort of compensation for that
yeah
skammy event, impossible to complete
typical XD shenanigans
gyatt dayum should have known better, oh well, they not getting a cent from me again, better spent elsewhere.
Here he is , the clown of the party
Thanks for thinking of me ❤️

Dont think about getting lattice fragment from the box, all you get is just coin and training data. So conclusion, it will help in economy to some extent. 
Sword of convallaria is not like this at all. Admittedly a very different game, but events in that game, while repetitive, were pretty great.
Rewards from my F2P keys today
he typed this shit while on vacation - he's so mad that other people are just quietly having fun without him
and when i played banners were still every 2 weeks
Is it any fun/good want to try it but scared cuz XD
Lol so? What games have banners every month. 2 week banners are fine. You don't need every character
It's fun, very casual though. If they focused on RT PvP more I'd still be playing. End of the day though it's kinda simple in terms of builds.
Yeah, you can clear all content easily, only arena style PvP. Events are easy and you clear out the shops. They have harder PvE content in events that are essentially bragging rights.
Art style is solid and the story mode is surprisingly good.
I like a bit more grindy/PvP gachas so I switched to this.
But there are things I love about SoC, art style, not having super sexualized characters, a bit more gritty and smart story, SRPG in tactics style.
It's def a "side game" though, even so I just play 1 gacha at a time cause I'll play other games not in the genre
You can sweep daily’s in 30 seconds. It’s giga casual unless there’s an event on
Might aswell try it out
thanks for explaining
I loved the challenge levels in their events. Even the story stuff was solid and I'm not a story guy
I like stories in other games, but I am never invested in gacha game stories, but the story mode in that game had actual solid stories and characters. And it gave really good rewards for it when they did story events.
All i gotta say right now. Is when you as a "Multi Million Dollar Company" who has had previous games that gave shown success shell out thousands of dollars of sponsorships to Content Creators to play their game....and every content creator that you sponsored has either A, quit the game or B, made a video telling you that your changes that were made between the Dream Baa, and Dreamscape are a miss, not hitting the mark, doesn't solve anything.
It's kinda laughable at this point.
It saved us from our misery by expediting Eos
“It will balance out in the end”
Alright - Have some data.
Max refreshed the event every day thus far and have cleared out the 300 lattice shard box
Keys Used: Roughly 21 keys + daily free keys
Cost: ~6300 Crystals (or like 75$ USD)
Hope the data is helpful - I personally think there should be more lattices for spending that much given that you can buy a lattice for like 30$. That or lower the cost of key refreshes potentially to make it more accessible for people.
How much do you hit on the boss on average?
what about the other shop and whats the cumulative score on the boss
and you have only managed to clear out the lattice box?
I will check for you guys in a moment
Though I will say my units are not that well geared towards pve - I kept almost all pvp sets and rengo set on
Bloodbath too op
Literally 
1739 Accumulated Damage Tier - I did about 9 or 10 of the boss runs so I only average like 180-190 on my runs
@inner pebble
@tough axle
If I really wanted to I could put on pve sets for higher hits but like it doesn’t really make that much of a difference in terms of gains - it’s still 1.2M event currency to exchange for 300 boxes
We still have half the event left so I’ll probably also clear out the SR/SSR ticket thing
Since I’ll attempt to do a 10 pull for the 3 SSR achievement
Also for the record I did clear abyss every time I got the chance to
So it did balance itself out
This is basically one huge pack for 75 bucks
Outplayed by etheria
And now you will lack some crystals for next LD summon, and will buy their packs to summon it
300iq move
Event also dropped a bit before next ld is expected
Coincidence?
double banner, event -> next ld
25 dark and light coins for purple tofu is abysmal too 
Don't mind me I'm just crashing out
In case someone yells at me
You’re not supposed to clear the event shop. Because it’s a marathon. Not a sprint!
Wasn't this dude in bootlicker tierlist and he say this ?
Game going this BAD bad huh
If I'm going to charge back everything I paid in this game via PayPal I'll prob need 2 months worth of business days 
White knight turned into dark knight
And he’s rising
it would be not worth if you don't buy every pack yes
for reference this is after using all daily free keys, the 3 keys from missions and 15 paid keys.
the crazier thing is with the same amount of keys bought and only 500 more accumulated score someone in my union has finished all the apex prototype and only has 1 lattice left to buy. Box wise i have opened a couple more extra
tsk tsk 99% of players quit just before they hit it big /s
We all got better odds at the pokies bois tbh
wow I didn't realize the RNG was this bad
that's a ton of variance
I have had similar results of 12 tries not 1 was successful
took me 10mins for this fight 
enjoy your 10 srs
i got it and a mate 2 
another goat left 
👍 I still can't do it
cute your numbers
wtf
after this i lost every time on purple so i fixed it and just do left side only after this 
how much did you loose before hiting big ?
nothing tbh cause i said myselfe ok i was always left side i hit 2x on left side i want one time to gamba i go to right side hit this reel thing got the seconmd highest so it was 2x and then i was a greedy bastard and gone again 2x so it was very high reward and after this i tried a few runs purple and then all runs was not very good or they are was shit so back to the left side 
lmao that's like 5 keys on the light side, gg
true
ey whats ur line for abyss lily?
Rewards from my F2P keys today
How many crystals did you get from all 300 boxes?
50 boxes i did today, less gems 
we love rng
Wasn't he defending this game and dying on that hill not too long ago
I got 900 from mine
Yep the number one glazer
Im surprised he just quit so fast 
I guess he realized the hill was indeed not worth dying on
If you want a plus from grm box then dont buy key lmao,except if you want clear out some item from shop

Quick someone tell me how I chargeback 
Go to ur device store
And open a ticket from settings
Ty papa ❤️
Do they ban my acct after it goes through? Lmao
Makes sense
Since it's like u reverse scam them
What if they scammed us first? Is it like a double reverse scam?
Where I break neutral
Yes

Ur neutral
And leave the game
And think like it was all a nightmare
That u were sleeping in

🤡
Shame, I thought we were friends 
didnt keep count
His thing was a little different, it was shitting on people complaining about difficulty while he was also shitting on the economy
Who?
Went from sucking off jack to quitting 
Another clown gone
Same mf that was trying to argue with me 3 weeks ago as well
What kind of engineers do we think they are?
the good kind

Wasn't he a mod?
I think the Og bootlicker is still here, though he sounded like he was shifting team doomer last comment of his
I cah get 99999999 million coins an hour in other games
Get on with the times
And then they saved the economy
Imagine not being team doomer now though. eventually, reality hits even the deluded.
This event is crazy! I have been doing max refreshes every single day, and barely got a single perfect lattice, which feels like a scam??
Here is a video review of the event:
https://youtu.be/CtP-BxZ5DWM?si=f3DOlkPF-cvBc6Mf
Pliyo is sharing the news about Dreamscape, the latest mode in Etheria Restart that came to fix the economy (according to the CEO?). Did it actually fix it? Or are there still things to improve?
Topics:
Dreamscape did not fix the economy the CEO PROMISED.
Etheria Restart Dreamscape Review
Etheria Restart Updates. Etheria Restart News.
Etheria ...
Good video. Subscribed.
Have we got any feedback from C talking to Jake a few days ago?
I remember him saying the meeting was good and it was promising but didnt hear anything official so far -_-
He’s chatting away in the general thread. Poor guy he’s taking all of the slings and arrows when the development team should actually be communicating.
He said and I quote,
"We had a meeting, it was a good conversation, you guys just gotta wait and see what the new event has in store."
Ain't heard from him sense here.
and from the looks of it (I've seen a few player doing max refreshes everyday), it is even shit for whales 🙂
I guess I'm dont have a good instinct to decide which game to whale, I whaled in Artery Gear that ended with EOS and Etheria doesnt look like in a good spot ^^;
Looks like sticking to epic 7 as a low spender is the best course for now
Etheria also takes a lot of time daily to maintain
is it a new new event
or are they gonna fix the current one before 2 days are up
yeah, I imagine he probably feels a bit embarrassed going out on a limb to mend issues with the community and then having the actual development team just be like NAH.
we shall seeeeeeeeeeeeee
C's exact words was it was a new event
im sure china/japan/korea will have a blast
they will probably revamp it like Train for the next release
once the global beta test is over
cuz if they do any change now, everybody will super whine about "we already used our mats blabla"
Global is just Beta Test 6 right now.
no rumor pls
legit idk why they had a great game in cbt3
and then they just changed everything
like what?
inferno was a lot more manageable is the big one
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