#Dreamscape did not fix the economy the CEO PROMISED

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kindred marsh
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the only complaint with volkin is that he doesnt usually stick around log, but he usually always has the community best interests

grim sparrow
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is scarlet like this CLS guild who base their guild rank of daily logins?

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😭

shrewd viper
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make sure they dont add new servers and also, maybe apology letters tmr dv_frogKekOwO

ornate lark
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Is it wtf

grim sparrow
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ohh no soon they will say we not rank 1 bcs we are not #1 in contribution

marsh dirge
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I'm surprised Zox wasn't on there to be fair

grim sparrow
gusty plank
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Who is zox

snow frost
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eh I don't think an apology is needed just clearer communication and stuff

grim sparrow
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it is needed, and its best shown with a character reset ticket

marsh dirge
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Like real Day 1

grim sparrow
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😡

gusty plank
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Again. Who is he

lethal swallow
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some random creator with no important influence

ornate lark
gusty plank
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I’ve been in gacha scene since day 1 sw/e7

snow frost
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this server was originally created by zox

gusty plank
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I’ve done content in most games. No idea who zox is tho

snow frost
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he was the most passionate content creator for the game and has been around for like 3 years

grim sparrow
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same

snow frost
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since he found out about it

gusty plank
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Unless gone by another name

snow frost
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he was the OG creator for etheria

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zoxaskun

gusty plank
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So he is a ER cc

dusky lichen
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he is my brother

dry rapids
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29 boxes and 30 minutes of my time for 2 lattice fragments

grim sparrow
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was it him who had the idea to bring the game over to glb?

gusty plank
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Not from other games?

grim sparrow
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🤔

dusky lichen
lethal swallow
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paid actor ^^;

snow frost
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a few of us really pushed for it

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and made it happen

lethal swallow
marsh dirge
marsh dirge
lethal swallow
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no

snow frost
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cn launch was planned first but after sending them some reports about the current gacha market and need for a pvp game with the timing they had planned they decided to release in global

marsh dirge
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Then you are going off a title with no contex

gusty plank
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He averages 2k

snow frost
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originally global wasnt planned at all

gusty plank
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Again “who” lol

lethal swallow
grim sparrow
snow frost
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but again it was not just me, just helped moved the needle at the last minute when they were debating it

marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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is the game still doing well in CN?

snow frost
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it doesnt exist in cn yet

grim sparrow
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ohh

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wait so will they launch 1:1 with glb

snow frost
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they just swapped global and cn release timelines i guess

grim sparrow
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or from where we started?

dusky lichen
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It has peaked interest in CN because Tomato,KLB and many known SW champs are playing it

grim sparrow
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wtf the first time glb is over asia in terms of release

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lmao

glacial leaf
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Wut

snow frost
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lol right

glacial leaf
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Toma is playing er?

marsh dirge
ornate lark
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If they release in cn with the current state of the economy it’ll be gg though

gusty plank
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We were the test it seemed. Yes Toma is

dusky lichen
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Ye he is joining Madness

grim sparrow
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is that the sw whale

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you said

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🍣

dusky lichen
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#1 for 6 years ye

grim sparrow
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oh ye

gusty plank
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Most the SW whales are here or were

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Some just casual til things pan out

glacial leaf
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Well good for you guys

grim sparrow
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i wonder how much they spend

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so far

glacial leaf
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He smart

grim sparrow
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they surely play SW for like 10 years +

grizzled matrix
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does sw even have non paying players

grim sparrow
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should be easily 1m +

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🤔

gusty plank
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Sw has tons f2p

dusky lichen
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KLB did 2mil in 1 year for SW, Tomato is a pro poker player , if this game had not as restrictive pack limits we wouldve been done for

marsh dirge
gusty plank
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ER has limits that prevent true healing

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Whaling

glacial leaf
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Sw players spend like 100k monthly

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Ez 1 mil over 11 years

gusty plank
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ER has ceiling. And it’s super low

grim sparrow
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100k monthly, crazy

marsh dirge
dusky lichen
grim sparrow
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thats cheap

dusky lichen
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he did 5k for a new monster release didnt even get him

glacial leaf
grim sparrow
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in e7 if you farmed w13 24/7

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with fast teams

gusty plank
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This is a cheap game lol

grim sparrow
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it was way more then that

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pepi spend like 1k €

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a day

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iirc

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jsut for energy

gusty plank
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Ya e7 was worse in energy

grim sparrow
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might be less, not sure

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i like the fact they put limits in etheria

glacial leaf
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But ppl spend 10k for ld5

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On sw

dusky lichen
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150$ daily adds up to thousands in longterm, plus hard to burn thousands of stamina daily unless you sharing with people to help you grind

gusty plank
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It gives dolphins ability to compete

glacial leaf
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Or more

gusty plank
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Since we all at ceiling

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In er

marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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i wish e7 and SW made a new server

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id love to start all fresh there

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especially e7

gusty plank
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We all would

grim sparrow
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like it was

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pre mystic summons

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perfection

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😭

glacial leaf
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Well kuro making mmo

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Gonna be peak

gusty plank
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2030

marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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in e7?

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or sw

marsh dirge
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E7

gusty plank
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Ya it doesn’t last long

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It’s good entry

grim sparrow
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meh, they need a new server

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its time

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like real talk

gusty plank
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A newer version of game. Fresh

warm folio
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SW does a rookie arena now as well

grim sparrow
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i can see e7 kill etheria just with a new server

marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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bro ngl

gusty plank
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Lmao at least our servers connected

grim sparrow
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i like e7 style

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way more

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if we had a mix of both games, it would be perfect

gusty plank
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E7 and sw hit it good with pve content

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This game had template and just legit ignores it lol

grim sparrow
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be honest

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isnt this train bs

gusty plank
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But limited energy and good pvp

grim sparrow
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the worst pve u have ever done

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no way someone actually gives a fk about this trainstation bs

marsh dirge
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RSL just has PVE content for litteral years... like content you will actually take a year to complete

gusty plank
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Majority the pve here is awful lol

grim sparrow
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the wolve bs aswell yes

gusty plank
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RSL is a pve game lol

dusky lichen
gusty plank
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Can’t tell me otherwise

marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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RSL full meme to me

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never tried it

dusky lichen
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Champions Call needs to be removed asap

ornate lark
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It’s more ev to not participate in champions call than to participate kek

marsh dirge
dusky lichen
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you gain by not even doing it

gusty plank
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Facts

dusky lichen
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You keep your sanity if you dont touch it

grim sparrow
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you cant tell me those 50 / 50 rates are not rigged

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😡

ornate lark
grim sparrow
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we live the gamble

gusty plank
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Gamba must gamba

ornate lark
marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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actually true

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wtf

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lol

gusty plank
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Yo I just ignored that at this point lol

grim sparrow
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the AI translations

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going wild

marsh dirge
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Slumbaa > Dream Baa

grim sparrow
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you guys think

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etheria will be long term

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or dead soon

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🤔

gusty plank
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Tbh? Long

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Don’t crucify

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It’s fresh slate we can’t get from e7/sw

ashen trout
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they did well for launch, esp when u consider korea, china and japan didnt have servers

gusty plank
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It will remain side game for a long time

grizzled matrix
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itll drag out for at least 2+ years with a small paying playerbase

marsh dirge
grim sparrow
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i feel like their benefit is just that its the first real turn based pvp based game for long time

polar garnet
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Long term but a huge percentage of the early playerbase will be gone from all these early decisions

gusty plank
ember horizon
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they were gonna leave anyways

grim sparrow
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man idk i hope they fix all the things f2p complain about

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i dont want this to fail

gusty plank
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We only need a he top half player base to remain anyways

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We won’t see the f2p in content anyways

grim sparrow
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true tbh

gusty plank
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So if quit game remains for most lol

ashen trout
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theres def a lot of things that attract new players like the tons of pulls early, non-impactful dupes (relative to other games)

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and rotating events

grim sparrow
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it feels like etheria missing the soul

worthy spire
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rta population is already only a couple hundred

grim sparrow
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if you know what i mean

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🤔

worthy spire
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it’s going to get stale quick

grim sparrow
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hard to explain

gusty plank
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It’s same in e7 and sw tho

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In eta

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Rta

grim sparrow
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bro you open e7

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you feel good seeing your heroes

warm folio
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RTA has 100,000 people above silver 2 rank

grim sparrow
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sit in tavern

warm folio
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So uhhh

grim sparrow
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you open ET you see a fkign emo boy sitting on couch

ashen trout
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they should add the ban system to like, gold tier imo

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instead of diamond

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it makes rta interesting

grizzled matrix
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theyre gonna need to unlimit whales on refreshes and stuff down the line or something

gusty plank
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If bans exist a lot players don’t have enough units lol

gusty plank
ashen trout
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yea i mean they shouldnt do it for bronze/iron cuz likely not enough units

gusty plank
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The limit is why people here am

ashen trout
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itll be whoever snipes lian first lol

grizzled matrix
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they wont be here long

grim sparrow
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etherias energy system is perfect

gusty plank
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It is

grizzled matrix
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it is

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but

grim sparrow
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out of all games its the best by far

grizzled matrix
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im not currently optimistic about its path

grim sparrow
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what path?

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etherias ?

grizzled matrix
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theyre less strong than summoners war

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and stronger than e7

ashen trout
grizzled matrix
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you just said 2 different things

grim sparrow
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hmm

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idk about e7 dupes beeing stronger

marsh dirge
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Honestly, i do like the energy cap.. and I wish more games would do it instead of having this... bottomless well mythology so it forces players to get off the game and go touch grass

grim sparrow
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🤔

grizzled matrix
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e7 dupes at SSS is like what 3.5 rolls worth of subs

dusky lichen
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Dupes in ER is way weaker than E7

grim sparrow
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true

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ye

dusky lichen
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SPD imprints is already crazy in e7

grizzled matrix
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the final dupe in ER is +10% dmg -10% dmg

gusty plank
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Dupes here are stats that don’t matter much

grim sparrow
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we could say dupes here are very basic

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in e7 they could be mandatory

grizzled matrix
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i dont know if they added more but speed imprint in e7 is incredibly rare and nobody has self speed

grim sparrow
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like he said with speed imprints etc

dusky lichen
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they did the right thing with dupes here

grim sparrow
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arby ma boyyyyyyyy

grizzled matrix
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and vildred was the only team speed last i played

dusky lichen
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the best thing they couldve done with dupes

grizzled matrix
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idk abou that

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the final dupe is pretty nuts

dusky lichen
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it isnt expensive

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for a whale

grim sparrow
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im fine with both systems

dusky lichen
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nor hard for a f2p

grim sparrow
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tbh

dusky lichen
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compared to e7

grizzled matrix
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dupes in e7 mandatory???

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what

potent dome
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delulu

grizzled matrix
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damn did things change a lot since i played

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cuz there was no SSR speed imprint dupes other than vildred that i remember

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and no self speed

grim sparrow
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you missed

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the 4 star

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s

potent dome
grizzled matrix
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thats a fucking 4*

grim sparrow
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hahahhaa

dusky lichen
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dupes not needed in E7 no

grizzled matrix
dusky lichen
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they just stronger than ER dupes

grizzled matrix
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the only thing im not sure about is the p5 dupe here

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otherwise dupes are whatever here

potent dome
dusky lichen
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idk why im talking dupes in here

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this abt shit event

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dreamscape

grim sparrow
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they are

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right tho

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the 5th dupe

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is huge in etheria

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even this

grizzled matrix
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+10% dmg -10%dmg its nuts

grim sparrow
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thats like 3 gear rolls

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2-3

grizzled matrix
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so i dont get why ppl say e7 has better dupes here

modern kiln
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more like 3-4

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ur never getting 4 crit roll

uneven tundra
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Crit rate/Crit Damage dupes in Etheria are huge

grizzled matrix
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u get like 3.5 max rolls of stats on a self imprint in e7 of full dupe

uneven tundra
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So are brusier dupes

grizzled matrix
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3-3.5

dusky lichen
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dupes in e7 gives you stats for entire team

grim sparrow
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ye 3-3.5

grizzled matrix
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if you do the team imprint its a bit more

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24% on 3 slots ? or something i cant remember its been so long

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or the double slot imprints anyway

dusky lichen
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Ye im vague on the exact myself

grizzled matrix
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no

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those are not as important as p5 here

modern kiln
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e7's % values are bigger in general tho no?

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on gear

grizzled matrix
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7 rolls of a character getes you 3 substat rolls

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thats kinda peanuts compared to dupes here

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its just that we have a lot of dead dupes

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on non dps chars

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like eff% on fuqiu

grim sparrow
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we take

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man in e7 its nice to have imprints on certain heroes bcs it helps them a lot

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in etheria its overall nice to hav edupes

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end of story

grizzled matrix
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you can also imprint the LDS with their RGB counterpart

grim sparrow
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btw

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are you guys going dark or light side

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in event

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🤔

glacial leaf
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Gamba

gusty plank
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Both lol

grim sparrow
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sanda the only man here

grizzled matrix
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flip a coin

grim sparrow
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wtf

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this man does gamble on gamble

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100% ill lose

grizzled matrix
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im playing according to the devs creative vision

grim sparrow
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fk it

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muhahahahah

glacial leaf
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Ez win

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The chest is best one ngl

grim sparrow
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i wonder if this makes chilldren addicted to gambling

glacial leaf
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I just tap right all the time

grim sparrow
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you guys play hearthstone?

glacial leaf
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I did not anymore

grim sparrow
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ahh man

glacial leaf
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I heard megashield plays it tho

grim sparrow
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they added a little dino which you can buy there, but you can get him through a roulet lets say

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and it shows in when you log in

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i saw a reddit post where a dad said

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his son cant stop talking about that dino anymore

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and he begs him daily to do roulet to win it lol

glacial leaf
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I saw reddit post where kid bought 10k stuff from parents account and they went on debt

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Minecraft

grim sparrow
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why this sounds like classic NA refunder whales

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ughh minecraft

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imagine your kid plays minecraft and ruins your whole life

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by not knowing what he does gg

glacial leaf
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Yep

grim sparrow
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and the parents cant refund anymore

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bcs too many ppl were abusing that

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hahaha

glacial leaf
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Every game with microtransactions should be adult only

blissful hare
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wait

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aint you the person getting farmed by our member in our 2nd guild

grim sparrow
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yes it should

blissful hare
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😭

grim sparrow
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@blissful hare

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😡

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when stop beeing toxic

blissful hare
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😭😭😭

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Im sleep

grim sparrow
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go sleep again

blissful hare
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😂 ✌️

glacial leaf
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Or pann puts you to sleep

grim sparrow
blissful hare
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Pann is black

grim sparrow
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i wouldnt make those jokes in here

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u know

lavish zodiac
grim sparrow
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discord mods

blissful hare
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I meant back

grim sparrow
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ohh ohh

blissful hare
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😂 ✌️

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Fuck madness too

grim sparrow
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wtf

blissful hare
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not nr1 anywhere

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fake ass post

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😂 ✌️

grim sparrow
blissful hare
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Cant even get nr1 in contributions

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😂 ✌️

grim sparrow
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=(((

lavish zodiac
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@blissful hare Chill mate

blissful hare
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bet

glacial leaf
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I wanna know where is ness tho

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Anyone seen him

dusky lichen
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Abyss done, 40min Rengo Abyss in the future?

image.png
blissful hare
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I just cant stand these liars

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how are they not number 1 in guild wars

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😂 ✌️

grim sparrow
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get banned

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😭

blissful hare
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Ness is my twin

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😂 ✌️

glacial leaf
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Just make new acc

grim sparrow
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that guy has to be #1 subhuman in this discord

blissful hare
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ait Im out

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this place is boring

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gonna go spam FATNESS in twitch chats

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more fun

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🌮

mystic jay
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The thing about Dreamscape event is that yes while its a RNG event
The part that really strucked out is that you need a key to enter and refreshing it is expensive as arena ticket.
Why not using stamina and while it is still limited by the stamina amount,it is arguably better than key.
Event tab are the one that you can monetize heavily
Challenge event like previous event does not need any crystal spending and neither does Dreamscape.

gusty plank
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My brain broke reading that

grim sparrow
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you are that guy

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nice life you have

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xd

blissful hare
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thank you

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😂 ✌️

glacial leaf
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Gvg scoring doesnt rlly matter until end of season

blissful hare
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I like doing 30min matches in offline pvp against your members

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😂 ✌️

brisk marsh
grim sparrow
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and you still getting stomped

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sounds worth

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but dw i told them to not bully you

blissful hare
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We'll see buddy

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😭

grim sparrow
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bcs you seem to be very sad irl lol

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like fr

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just chill

blissful hare
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Im farming your members and making videos

grim sparrow
blissful hare
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geting paid 2$ a vid

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we eating good

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😂 ✌️

grim sparrow
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ahhmm

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okay

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lol

glacial leaf
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Pann since when youve become toxic all i remember was falling telehubbies

grim sparrow
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wtf

brisk marsh
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😂✌️

grim sparrow
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im never toxic

blissful hare
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Sand did you drop being a ytber?

grim sparrow
blissful hare
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😂 ✌️

glacial leaf
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Never been mate

blissful hare
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no wonder cause you getting farmed

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😂 ✌️

grim sparrow
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what guild are you in lil boy?

brisk marsh
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Is he laughing at his own jokes

grim sparrow
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you sound like you with this ness guy

brisk marsh
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I don’t get it

grim sparrow
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isnt that sad? lol

blissful hare
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the one thats gonna beat your ass

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😭

glacial leaf
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Just saying havent lost single gvg yet

grim sparrow
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he trying to be " toxic" cant even manage to do that

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hahahahaha

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you surely eat a lot of bulyy irl

blissful hare
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wuddahell is a bulyy

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😞

brisk marsh
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I feel like I’m too old for this

grim sparrow
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ye idk

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lol

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@glacial leaf nice talk budd ill leave now too byeeeeeeeeee

brisk marsh
glacial leaf
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Byee was fun catching up again

mystic jay
warm folio
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I also haven't lost a single GvG yet and my guild is a piece of shit that struggles to get over 1k points each time because none of them attack zf_hahaha

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Purely matchmaking luck for everyone but whoever the actual best guild in the game is

unique falcon
nova spade
glacial leaf
ashen trout
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it's right there smh

marsh dirge
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Reading is hard for the average gacha player

ashen trout
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sandalphon rn

marsh dirge
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Not to doompost and all, but....

Anyone wanna start placing bets on when we will hear anything from the devs?

nova spade
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Next month

unique falcon
marsh dirge
nova spade
unique falcon
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-_-

marsh dirge
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Damn blaze not beating the aligations of average gacha player not reading

unique falcon
cursive sedge
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C is running defense again zf_hahaha

unique falcon
cursive sedge
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Can’t blame the mods tbh

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The director came on video and was at the very least misleading

primal gate
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So no communication yet?

marsh wasp
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Im not even surprised 🤦

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Anymore

cursive sedge
unique falcon
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They seriously thought this event would fix the economy?
Iq?

marsh dirge
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Everything is heavily monitored... hell inferno is still being monitored.

unique falcon
nova spade
marsh dirge
primal gate
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This event isn't event related to economy xd

unique falcon
marsh dirge
unique falcon
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@ember horizon the new clown?

ember horizon
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honk

unique falcon
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Hopefully today

warm folio
nova spade
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He retired once b4 after getting cooked alive in union war

unique falcon
warm folio
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It doesn't feel like it has anything to do with the economy because they hid the economy boost behind failing to get good things

unique falcon
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That union war was the final fuck you jack gave me

ember horizon
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oh nooo not an event which gives us on average a few million more coin and .5 more lattice than normal weeklies! oh no this is the worst thing ever!! /s

unique falcon
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For all the shit and pings I threw at him

unique falcon
marsh dirge
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At least it's an event you can complete and not rely on RNG to actually complete or not like Dazzler and others.

So small steps i guess?

cursive sedge
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Idk why people are talking about the devs could have “overdid” the amount of currency they gave us like genuinely. That is the equivalent of saying it’s a bad thing to give water to a starving dried up plant, the economy is already fked lol.

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You don’t unfk it by sprinkling some currency(randomly)

marsh dirge
ember horizon
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wahhh give me fully maxxed out gear with red speed already. its been 45 days!!! mannnn why do i have to make decisions with my resources in a turn based strategy game wahhh

cursive sedge
#

C is probably a good person, I think they have good intentions

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I don’t like the weird af explanations hes giving tho

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That genuinely make so sense

marsh dirge
unique falcon
#

You asf

ember horizon
#

turn 2 is the way to go

primal gate
cursive sedge
#

The absolute least they could do is get rid of the boxes and let us buy the shit we want directly

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The lattice shards

warm folio
#

Is that sembu? Blocking him is massive QoL

cursive sedge
#

Idc if it’s 10k dream dust for one shard it would feel better at least

ember horizon
#

na u all coping so hard thinking of this wednesday u were gonna log in and just have everything you wanted.

primal gate
grizzled matrix
#

i dont think you can buy 50 shards f2p actually

unique falcon
ember horizon
#

based off the word "generous" kekw

grizzled matrix
#

from the dream data coins at least

#

also im going for the gem boxes instead of lattice

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well

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maybe

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have to see more results on ranges

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but gem boxes would at least feed into more keys if you wanted to do that

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not very optimistic looking rn

cursive sedge
#

They got you right where they want you if you spend gems for more keys

marsh dirge
#

I still wanna know who at translations thought dream dust was the best name for a fucking feather icon.

unique falcon
pure zealot
#

I've come from the other doom posting thread, thanks for having me

unique falcon
#

Nice having you here with us EtheLily Reroll warrior

grizzled matrix
#

bc if you even you like this event or dont hate it

#

will you still think its fun 50 runs later in a week

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is ur ass prepared to run this 9 times a day thats 2 hours btw

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NAHHHHHHHH lmao

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u cant pay me to do that why would i pay you to do that

pure zealot
#

Ethernet Rally just reset for me too, so that's another 3+ hour grind

unique falcon
#

Slavery

nova spade
#

Better reward

pure zealot
#

at least the rewards are good if you can clear it all

unique falcon
#

At least the marathon is more enjoyable now

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Sembu just put your clown mask on and dance for me bbg

ember horizon
unique falcon
#

Do a few tricks for me bbg

ember horizon
spiral fiber
#

just fighting the same thing everytime

unique falcon
last imp
#

These devs did the tribe 9 rollout. Very good game but these devs keep making terrible decisions

pure zealot
cursive sedge
#

Thinking of just going always dream path

spiral fiber
cursive sedge
#

I hate the gamba

unique falcon
#

Yall remember
Its a pvp game

grizzled matrix
#

well no auto complet ebc the bosses and restrctions change

spiral fiber
#

most likely ethernet doesnt

cursive sedge
#

But gamba give a ton more

pure zealot
#

hopefully they could add it to ember trek

grizzled matrix
#

the bosses also change the floor and rotating debuff thingie whatever

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but they gotta let us auto complete the chest stages

pure zealot
#

that would be a good change for sure

grizzled matrix
#

it adds like 2 hours or something and its definitely not fun

#

i think all signs point to etheria just thinking more screen time = good

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no matter how they get that from us

pure zealot
#

"let me take this elevator to then take another elevator for a chest, then use the 2 elevators to go back to where I was"

grizzled matrix
#

soon its gonna be no screen time

grizzled matrix
#

if i alt tab and click back in while its moving

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chaku thinks i want to move again

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and puts me back where i was

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thank you chaku die

south shard
pure zealot
#

I'm not sure I can convince myself to keep doing ethernet rally and ember trek on repeat every few weeks to be honest

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literal hours of repeated work

grizzled matrix
#

take the trek out of ember trek please

south shard
grizzled matrix
#

while you're already fed up with the whole process it just stacks irritation

marsh dirge
#

Is it bad that I would rather the RNG of summoning in Summoners War then what we have here?

pure zealot
ember horizon
#

dont u love reading books? i do. lets all share ur favorite book

pure zealot
ember horizon
#

a series of unfortunate events

south shard
#

is there a game with the same vibes like this one (i really like the general asthetics and vibe of this game) that isn't such an insult to it's players?

pure zealot
marsh dirge
warm folio
south shard
ember horizon
#

yeah it is. but ya know I still got some faith. maybe im like that kid in the story tho

south shard
#

ey, so do i bc i really like the gameplay and type of content this game has. the foundation is really nice here

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just everything else that is making the game just a chore to play

pure zealot
#

The high effort/time to reward ratio has to come down dramatically

#

No way we're supposed to be spending hours every day in a mobile game

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"sorry hun I can't make dinner tonight, Ember Trek just refreshed"

ember horizon
#

agreed. i get clowned on tho cause I like to treat people like people and not just shit on them relentlesly SadgeJuice cause that makes them want to work less and try less.

first iteration a miss. i think the slumba shell change might be okay given more time or a slightly higher bump-up number wise but idk 3 million data a day if max refereshing isnt really that bad...

south shard
#

it's mostly time spend/rewards gained tbh. all that extra bs like spinning wheels all the time, loading screens, elevators, it just adds up so much it becomes a chore. i'm fine with going through a level every once in a while, ambush mobs, get chests, that is fine. but there is just to much clutter in between

ember horizon
#

half the chests/mobs in ember treck and double the rewards ez solution

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if they wanna keep that aspect in. but also just get rid of it after 1st clear

pure zealot
glacial leaf
#

bcs every single game which is turn based has rng elements when farming gear

#

ppl would be tribbing if shells were pullable stuff

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like in most games

ember horizon
#

Like in the end what you only need like 2-3 shells of each outside of like lighthouse for pvp rn. so idc if it takes 2-3 days of max refreshing to hit it.

but people see a shell with swiftraid instead of furyedge and think that shell is "unusable". or omg it has harvest instead of fury GG this shell is omega bad... its not man... its more than fine for most stuff rn. you hit the other one you imprint it later

#

rerolling passives is bad

unique falcon
south shard
unique falcon
ember horizon
#

rolling a passive lower than the one u currently have is wack. u remove that and thats good.

glacial leaf
south shard
#

and don't get me started on the amount of possible rolls on a single shell, regarding it's sets and amount of set bonus

glacial leaf
#

😄

marsh dirge
#

Speaking of shells, i was fiddling around with chatgpt talking about the different issues with Etheria Restart and it did come up with this idea.

Screenshot_20250717_182401.jpg
glacial leaf
#

yeah lets just get bis stuff

#

day 1

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ez

south shard
#

is your entire life just black and white? only extremes?

unique falcon
glacial leaf
#

well ive seen the calculations of how dupe number 5 is 681% more damage

#

ive seen all

unique falcon
#

Where?

south shard
#

are you ok man? who is talking about dupes rn?

ember horizon
#

tbh most people who complain do just want BiS stuff. idk people who complain about the lattice economy... they dont understand that 1 maxxed character a month is pretty good compared to most gacha's for skills.

and most of these units dont need all 12... outside of like rosa, yeli (11), xiada if u want

#

u can easily do 2-3 supports a month F2P and u built ur dps from the beginning influx

south shard
glacial leaf
#

yes for you, but there is 100 other ppl asking for 12 more lattices

unique falcon
south shard
glacial leaf
#

?

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i just said for you it might be fine

#

but there is literally 50 ppl asking for 10 more lattices

#

weekly

ember horizon
#

so many of these people tho see a shiny new unit and go omg i gotta skill it up or its useless.. like omg I cant get excited for fuqio cause I have no lattice...

wait no lattice shes kinda the GOAT still

#

maybe i am brainwashed but idk man. i just dont see the point in brainlessly trashing people calling for heads when offering no solution/help outside of "OMG THE ECONOMY", "RESET EVENT PLS I FUCKED UP". fix fix fix u all suck, quit.

#

like bro that doesnt help in the slightest

#

say okay I want to be able to speed check gear at +6 when it rolls 3 or 4 substats and no lose 80% of my coin

eager idol
glacial leaf
#

Yeah 😄 it was funny when i read reddit today, and there was let people complain we need construcive criticism and like half the posts are xd you are morons, fix the game by giving resets, i quit etc

eager idol
#

like did you see any of those clear with 0 lattice investment?

glacial leaf
#

so you dont use lattices?

ember horizon
#

they gave you like a free 30... did u not build for any inferno?

#

like idk man u probs need like 10 maybe to clear inferno terror. i think doki can be done with like 8 on xiada and none on the rest

#

idk dawg.

lilac spruce
#

lick the boots harder jfc

ember horizon
#

im sorry u cant teambuild i guess

glacial leaf
#

and thats the otherside of the coin 😄

kindred marsh
ember horizon
#

i get it ur frustrated you cant clear top level content and u feel "behind" cause of others progression but like man use some critical thinking skills. Vice fucking owns use him more. i am sure every single person has a box capable of clearing atleast some inferno. they gotta figure out how to use it.

pure zealot
#

ultimately I just want the game to be better and care more about my time, that's my main problem

ember horizon
#

ditto.

#

i dont think this event takes too long tho. what 45 minutes for the 4 runs? and u auto using ur stam in the background? not too bad imo

#

someone was saying dont whale on keys or something idk too much math

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i'll trust em blindly

pure zealot
#

Yeah the key prices are not worth it imo

#

300 gems for a key and you can get like 50k coins from it or something

ember horizon
#

its not as free as the dazzler event tho. 1 lattice for clicking an autoplay feature. goated

grizzled matrix
#

u get more than that

#

the keys for 300 gems isnt necessarily bad

#

but its grindy af

#

for

#

eh

ember horizon
#

agreed. if each run takes 10-ish min... thats a long time.

pure zealot
#

honestly if I'm going to use that many gems, I'd rather just spend the money and buy a lattice from the shop

grizzled matrix
#

its not particularly great either

glacial leaf
#

i saw people saying they want to play the game more, when we get more they say it takes too long :/

grizzled matrix
#

btw those lattice frags in shop dint even seem good value

ebon forge
pure zealot
#

I'm not sure what the rates are on the lattice fragments, but I used the 50k coins we get for free and got 1 fragment

#

doesn't seem worth investing gems on if your goal is lattice

grizzled matrix
#

oh u said coins

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u mean dream shard things

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not etheria coins

ember horizon
grizzled matrix
#

i dont think a key is even 50k

#

more like 20-40 depending on ur gamba

#

legendry boss more

glacial leaf
ember horizon
#

ive been going yellow side then on the last 2 go purple and try to double it all...

#

idk if thats the play

wheat oyster
ember horizon
#

who to cater to? 😟

ashen trout
#

unless im missing something why do the animus always randomly attack the adds against lindelle lol

#

there's no taunt listed in the boss description

worthy spire
#

probably debuff rng

#

you can manually set target though

ashen trout
#

ah actually yeah probably

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was there a way to set target

#

well ig i missed it

worthy spire
#

click on the boss during the fight

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it should highlight the crosshair thing

ashen trout
#

icic

grizzled matrix
#

the ppl asking to play more are asking for resources to buid units and maybe dip toes into rta

#

not asking to be held hostage in rng pve grindfest #5

ashen trout
#

the gameplay is like fine but wow

#

rng rewards lol

#

fine if u only go to the left side, cant imagine right side being any fun

#

u get more currency for rng rewards that might not give u what the box says lol

#

might get more currency

worthy spire
#

this event is basically a tradeoff of lattices for miscellaneous resources

#

which I think is worse, and definitely not the most generous event

ashen trout
#

id much rather them get rid of all the other stuff and just have coins, data, exp books at that point

#

wiggling the thought of getting lattice shards and not getting it

pure zealot
#

at least we can get the 5 lattice frags basically every day, yeah?

ashen trout
#

is definitely a choice

worthy spire
#

from the fixed exchange shop

ashen trout
#

need to see what the quests give

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cuz im only on the 1st page

#

aint gonna spend on the keys cuz

worthy spire
#

there’s only four

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and the rewards on the second one are still 2 tokens

ashen trout
#

gamba for new animus is the only thing that brings me joy

#

in ER

grizzled matrix
#

just buy 10 LD pulls

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if u can even buy all 10

worthy spire
#

I always go lattice since it’s not obtainable else where

grizzled matrix
#

normally i do that but wow lattice feels so bad this event

#

which is a very strange situation to be in

worthy spire
#

also apex is 5 of each

true sage
#

they just need to up the daily keys from 3 to 5-10

ashen trout
#

when people say they want coins im pretty sure they didnt mean lower the chance of other rewards for coins, or just like increase recycle or coin gain from the boss fights

worthy spire
#

so 150 in total for 10

grizzled matrix
#

wait

ashen trout
#

but maybe im craazzzzzzzzzzzy

true sage
#

all problems solved if they give more keys daily

grizzled matrix
#

wasnt it 5 per 1 up to 10

worthy spire
#

yeah 5 rgb

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so 15 total for 1 summon

grizzled matrix
#

ITS NOT LD

#

did i note it wrong

#

MAN

true sage
#

compensation of keys and change it to minimum 6 daily thnx

worthy spire
#

that’s 5 keys minus first time rewards

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literally spending 1.5k for 300

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and some coins on the side

grizzled matrix
#

im a dumbass

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i go delete misinfo

ember horizon
#

not like we could ever buy out a shop for anything verysadge

ashen trout
#

i mean for all the talk c said about not wanting to set expectations high for rewards so players wont expect that amount for future events

#

they sure overhyped this event as the savior of ER

worthy spire
#

you only get 21 + 16 ld tokens without buying keys

tough axle
#

Ngl all of the problems could have been solved if that wild intern didn’t go wild and buff all infernos

worthy spire
#

that’s if you can do 166 to the boss

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which is doable

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but that leaves you with 20 shards

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for the entire event

ashen trout
#

like in the meetup they were like it's the most generous (sure if u are super lucky otherwise it's pretty on par), it'll alleviate some economy concerns, and it's SUPER FUN

nova spade
#

Thing is will you able to clear the shop, just the gold lattice fragment and purple lattice

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With only 3 keys a day

ashen trout
#

yea it's just like any other event unless u are lucky or p2w

worthy spire
#

you will get 40% of the lattice dv_frogKekOwO

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forget the rest

ashen trout
#

lel

nova spade
#

Let just say +4 from quest

ember horizon
#

i dont think they hyped it up a crazy amount? they only said "the most generous event" and hope to fix part of the economy" that wasnt gonna solve it day 1.
We knew it was a new rotational event so like it was never gonna be actually insano

worthy spire
#

well yes

unique falcon
worthy spire
#

but it’s worse than previous events

#

like what

ashen trout
#

i meaaan they did hype it up a lot in the meetup

ember horizon
#

its actually not worse...

#

but okay.

worthy spire
#

in terms of lattice

#

cage was better

nova spade
#

It’s literally worse than dazzling

ember horizon
#

its actually not but okay man.

worthy spire
ember horizon
#

u tell me at the end of the week how much you get

#

1.5-ish lattice by the end

#

combining both shops

#

if im wrong ill join ur alls brigade

nova spade
#

Are you buying keys also?

worthy spire
#

so you will get 50+ from lootboxes?

#

gl

ember horizon
#

na

tough axle
#

Someone screenshot that

nova spade
#

People who get 10+ from lattice frag gamba is one of a few

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Myself included

ebon forge
ember horizon
ashen trout
#

yea i aint hitting 20 lol

#

i got 2 from today

ember horizon
#

its been 1 day...

ashen trout
#

with the 4 keys

worthy spire
#

you don’t get enough elemental token currency from daily keys

#

it’s 3 per key

nova spade
worthy spire
#

and the tier rewards reset every 500

ashen trout
ebon forge
#

Don't worry, they will shadow buff the rate
Surely FrogCoolCry

worthy spire
#

so 8 per 2 keys if you can do 250+

ashen trout
#

i meant idt ill get 20 by the end of the event zzz

#

obv not in 1 day zzzz

#

based on what i got from today and im not lucky

ember horizon
#

if you dont hit 20 ill send you a venmo for a 10 pull :3

#

on me buddy

tough axle
#

There is actually a hack to getting more fragments

#

I used that trick to get 18 today

unique falcon
tough axle
#

You pray to kitasan black

unique falcon
#

@nova spade bbg how do you like the event so far?

ember horizon
#

aiught i do lindelle then the pulls

nova spade
#

Alr second day 4 me

snow frost
ember horizon
#

wtf u do on lindelle...

#

this is the one where you just do dammy?

nova spade
unique falcon
#

C have you tried the event yet?

ashen trout
#

make sure to tap the boss so it targets it and not the goons

unique falcon
#

How many fragments have you gotten so far?

true sage
#

18 in 97 boxes

nova spade
true sage
#

going by that rate 54 by 300 boxes

nova spade
true sage
#

if I refill

ashen trout
#

xiada/diting are my other 2 dps

true sage
#

today is turn meter to do damage

ashen trout
nova spade
#

@true sage i got it again lol

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true sage
#

u want as much turn meter to push the debuff so u get clarity

ashen trout
#

ihy

true sage
ashen trout
#

i want purple lettuce

true sage
#

I want that also

snow frost
ashen trout
#

i think ive only gotten purple lettuce in the shop once

nova spade
#

yesterday i got scam

#

today i wont

grizzled matrix
true sage
#

😂 don’t exit game or ur reward will change ;p

nova spade
nova spade
true sage
#

21 keys + 4 from quests

nova spade
#

so u wont be able to clear the lattice frag as f2p

glacial leaf
#

why sadly?

grizzled matrix
#

we get wayyyyy less dream data coins than it seemed

glacial leaf
#

it advances more next day

#

isnt it better

grizzled matrix
#

no

#

lemme

grizzled matrix
# glacial leaf it advances more next day

accumulation every day instead of 0-500 points per run at the boss is worse because
we care most about the constant+disorder coin currency
you can get both 8+8 with relatively average effort at only 150 points
this accumulation every day sucks because on the 2nd day you are getting the upper half of rewards which is the crap we dont care about
if it reset f2p could get the 150 points every day for the 8+8 coins
this again double dips into punishment because compared to players who earn more points, you are getting fucked twice over now

example
you earn 150 points on each boss run of 3 keys x7 = 1050 pts
with accumulation rewards you get the 500 + 500 twice
16 constant + disorder coin

with daily reset on boss reward you get to earn it all 7 days
56 constant+ disorder coins

the lattice fragments take 80 to buy all 50

you wont even consider the rest of the options
you cant buy shit anyway

this is why its extra punishment for a beginner/casual/f2p
obviously players who earn more points get more stuff but not every point value reward is equal

nova spade
#

your goal is to get this to buy the lattice and u only get 3-4 of these each day

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grizzled matrix
#

wall of text

#

skip to example

true sage
#

let’s say u get lucky and the tier rewards aren’t capped,

4 LD from legendary
3 from regular
8/8 LD from tier rewards
X that by 7
u will only clear 7/10 lattice from shop

grizzled matrix
#

it stops u from scrolling at 500 pts and always shows that at end so it looked like it was 500 cap

#

it actually just loops over

true sage
#

500 isn’t cap

grizzled matrix
#

but we dont know how many times

true sage
#

I’m on tier 1000 now

#

can’t see beyond that yet coz I haven’t done it today

grizzled matrix
#

but my example is why its worse that it adds instead of resets

ember horizon
#

isnt there more the guide rewards tho also?

#

or is that a 1 time thing

true sage
#

accumulative is better then daily reset imo

nova spade
glacial leaf
#

thats what i thought aswell

true sage
#

u won’t get 300+ daily

#

unless ur a spender

grizzled matrix
#

stacking spread ur coins across all 5 element

#

reset lets you focus ld coin

ember horizon
#

oh no chapter 2 or something? hmm aight

nova spade
#

yeah unless u buy all the key u will be able to atleast guaranteed to buy 1 lattice frag

true sage
#

so this works better

grizzled matrix
#

i dont think ye getting 80 coins as f2p

grizzled matrix
ember horizon
#

but if you get 35 you still only need 15 from boxes which seems reasonable for the entire week for 1 full lattice. not that this is "generous" but it is something as F2P

grizzled matrix
#

since they can barely buy anything to begin with

true sage
#

pretty much u gotta pick one item and focus on it as f2p

grizzled matrix
#

so

#

wheres that leave us

nova spade
grizzled matrix
#

dazzling is better for whales too

#

it has good packs

nova spade
#

yeah

#

at least it give something to buy

#

this one just gambling

true sage
#

probally gonna get more lattice shards from shell story imo 🤣

ember horizon
#

i mean u add up the coins and other stuff it is more. "generous" idk. exactly. but i need to see where I end up and where everyone else does. if its on par on average for F2P just on lattice that is better than dazzler

granite vortex
#

is the dev retarded? this event is bullshit. why do we need rng simulator again for the event??

grizzled matrix
nova spade
ember horizon
#

right but this has the other currency. and you actually get to play the game not listen to a soundtrack...

true sage
#

dazzler had guaranteed lattices and also rng purple ones from the board

grizzled matrix
#

if an event costs me 45mins to 2.5 hrs grinding

true sage
#

with no effort

nova spade
grizzled matrix
#

i expect it to give more resources for my time

true sage
#

it’s the keys, it all comes down to the keys

nova spade
#

im going in

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true sage
#

why only 3 daily

grizzled matrix
#

this is what is meant by etheria not respecting players time

halcyon obsidian
grizzled matrix
#

9*

tough axle
grizzled matrix
#

9x15 mins =135 mins 2.5 hrs btw

#

spend more to get inconvenienced more

ember horizon
#

sure. thats fair. let me/others see it for the entire week. if they are open to tweaking it why just come in with hostility toward them. its a first pass... like idk sorry it aint perfect but coming in like @granite vortex isnt the answer and never should be.

maybe im a white knight for that sentiment. if so clown me i guess.

halcyon obsidian
desert cobalt
grizzled matrix
ember horizon
#

ill wait 5 min for the next one

kindred marsh
grizzled matrix
kindred marsh
#

yes and no

#

people always complain

#

you can give them the world and a platform to complain

#

theyll still do it

grizzled matrix
#

its true a lot of the complaining is senseless and groundless

#

but so is lot of the excuses

#

neither are helpful

halcyon obsidian
nova spade
vocal cloak
#

too bad the rage baiters are stuck in cardboard 1

#

same as the devs

ember horizon
#

28 boxes. poggers rewarded for white knighting

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tough axle
nova spade
ember horizon
#

gz bud. i hope you pull uhhh kitasan

tough axle
nova spade
#

ok this auto in lindelle is pissing me off

royal knot
#

i feel like dropping the game and picking it back up in a couple months at this point

unique falcon
ember horizon
#

what did you expect this event to give @newguy

#

also my bad it took 13 minutes...

snow frost
#

photoshopped though buddy no one will believe u

nova spade
ember horizon
#

i wish i was that good at photoshop... i could make more money to give to Etheria Restart! kekw ok ok jk

#

im going too far

worthy spire
#

but ig it’s not explicitly stated anywhere

nova spade
kindred marsh
nova spade
worthy spire
#

is the middle target highlighted?

nova spade
#

yeah

worthy spire
#

well I don’t know what to tell you

nova spade
#

i might have misclick it

warm folio
#

I just used my 4th bonus key on the safe path and got 33% more than making the smart decisions on the risky path dv_frogKekOwO

fossil nexus
nova spade
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how do u make beyontin S2 my yeli grrrrr

warm folio
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The Abyss difficulty for Shadow Sania is horseshit though, the speed jump is like 30%

fossil nexus
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But no AI dogshit on Beyo