Etheria Meetup was a HUGE L

[brazen pike]

quite not normal when people not even willing to wait and see as the new mode is coming out in a week time

[thick finch]

Similar to how criticism = hatred

[gleaming yoke]

This is my belief as well

[brazen pike]

I believe it is rage baiting

[random comet]

This is tame and measured lmao

[random comet]

It's not

[pearl vortex]

i mean is he wrong? they are giving an open-ended answer also

[slow orchid]

Quite pathe- I mean quite sad having a game as your identity

[gleaming yoke]

Is this someone's quote? Or just your opinion?

[brazen pike]

my opinion

[pearl vortex]

this thread OP post, nvm

[random comet]

They said "we won't buff drop rates, instead we'll give you currency through events. How much? Won't say. When? Won't say. How long will it take to get? Won't say"

[brazen pike]

screenshot is from original post

[random comet]

Why would you accept that

[thick finch]

It's only rage bait until it's their turn. That's how many people act

[pearl vortex]

yeah like

[brazen pike]

event will come out in a week time, and it can be still in work or in test

[pearl vortex]

at least tell us how much because even 2x the amount wont be anything

[coral finch]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-5765281

[brazen pike]

they are not magician, they are engineers so they are humans

[slow orchid]

If it is made easier, some will think the change comes because the game is losing players

[coral finch]

You don't need to be a magician to give us a road map to when things are projected to come to fruition

[pearl vortex]

they are losing player now tho

[brazen pike]

game comes and dies, does not matter what devs do

[gleaming yoke]

That's just skepticism.. a healthy amount. How is that hateful, or rage baiting?

Hateful would be something like "these devs are such liars, you're all idiots if you're believing their lies still"

Come on, that's an issue to you? Really?

[brazen pike]

so it is not announced when new event will come?

[slow orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/歲月流逝飯菜依舊美味-food-for-the-soul-kawai-mako-gif-11693387089950869987

[gleaming yoke]

That post is seriously just "we don't know if this new event will help or not"

[brazen pike]

emm you make skepticism sounds very constructive by link it to 'a healthy amount'

and rage baiting is a bait, not mean itself is rage

[gleaming yoke]

Do you think being skeptical is inherently a bad thing? I'm getting the sense you do, and that is very strange to me

[brazen pike]

I am not saying it is a bad thing. but it is not a good thing too. and skeptical feedback is not a contructive feedback

and lead to other rage comments so it is rage baiting in my opinion

and this is more towards to rage baiting

[coral finch]

Show me the lie

[gleaming yoke]

Ok true, what they said really isn't useful to developers. But that wasn't addressed to developers. That was 100% addressed to someone in the thread, prob someone who was like "great, problems are solved, w devs"

You're moving the goal posts. First you said "most feedback is hateful and rage bait", I asked for examples, now you're sending examples of people not even addressing devs

Come on bro

[pearl vortex]

but is he wrong?

[random comet]

It's not. It's very obvious he's asking for detailed, concrete commitments

[brazen pike]

I hope your critisim attitude to me can be applied to the post here and yourself. but like I said, you believe this type of post is not rage baiting then sure there will be another group people believe you guys are rage baiting.

[gleaming yoke]

You asking if play is wrong? They said "most feedback is hateful rage bait", and I'm waiting on receipts. I don't think they exist. If they can't provide them, then yes, very much wrong and is imagining what's actually going on

[thick finch]

Then what is constructive criticism to you? I'm just asking, not starting a pointless argument

[halcyon jolt]

Idk man but I think ice cream cookies are straight up ass bro

[brazen pike]

wait the new mode, if it is bad, critisize based on the fact. not assumption

[pearl vortex]

no im saying did the statment in the ss is wrong

[random comet]

Go to hell

Quickly!

[thick finch]

Then how would you yourself write it?

[brazen pike]

do you know if it right or wrong before the new event is released? and how?
if you want to reasoning it

[brazen pike]

what did I write?

[gleaming yoke]

Let's make sure we're on the same page first

"Rage bait refers to content designed to deliberately provoke anger or outrage in viewers, primarily to boost engagement on social media platforms. It's a tactic used by content creators to increase traffic, comments, shares, and ultimately, their own popularity and potential for monetization"

I don't see how any of this can be described as rage bait. Rage bait is used to drive engagement, clicks, shares, etc. Someone saying "nothing is going to improve" is just an opinion. If you don't like it and it angers you, that doesn't make it rage bait. If I sneeze loud, you getting angry about it doesn't mean I'm rage baiting with my sneeze

[thick finch]

I'm asking how would you write criticism from your perspective

[brazen pike]

just a roadmap but without details sounds not promising, but we can wait and see till the event drop to decide if devs value player base and their words

[thick finch]

That's fair

[random comet]

I want to be clear that I don't mean this in a condescending way, but I do have to ask: it seems like English may not be your first language, right? Don't you think maybe a bunch of people who spoke it their whole lives saying it's not rage bait might mean the tone actually doesn't come across as rage bait?

[brazen pike]

it judges a content before it comes out, and put lots of doubts to the content before it is even released, and based on skeptical not fact

[brazen pike]

I can agree the tone is not rage bait on this post, but this post is one of the best among all other more rage bating ones

[random comet]

But you called it rage bait

[brazen pike]

at least it tries to reason it and argue, just based on not facts but assumptions

[brazen pike]

because I think it gives critisim based on skeptical and draw conclusion as the meetup was a huge L, and the title is definitely a rage baiting tone

[gleaming yoke]

Personally, it's way more appropriate imo to classify those sorts of comments as skeptical, unfounded, baseless, etc than to say it's hateful or rage bait

You could say that person is talking out of their ass, but they're just doubtful about this fixing things. They will easily be proven right or wrong soon

But in any case, I don't think this is a good example for your claim that "most posts are hateful and not constructive feedback"

Feedback will be things addressed to developers -- those comments are definitely not to the developers

[brazen pike]

I hold my opinion on 'Ethera Meetup was HUGE L' is ragebaiting.
unless you can give more reasons to clarify it

[pearl vortex]

base of their own words, "we are fixing this issue by only upping reward from events"
while the issue is the module upgrading cost a fk ton and recycling give u fk all

and i dont seem to remember if they have any plan to fix the coin issue other than that

[brazen pike]

and to the 'most' part:

[pearl vortex]

1 full day of max refresh get u like 1 +15 module of something

[brazen pike]

is this game going to have one update before eos?

and is it healthier to release improvements one by one or just release all at once

and devs said the intension of this game is not to make silve as redundent resource.
I dont think it is a clever design but it is part of the game unique thought process.
if it is not your cake, then why dont you want to change the cake rather than find a cake you do like?

[thick finch]

Funny you should say this.... There was many gachas that did so.

But yeah. This won't EOS they have enough funds for another year. It's what they do with these funds in the next few weeks that matter though

[gleaming yoke]

I think you'd be more accurate to say "feedback is hostile" or "aggressive" or something else. Rage bait is specific behavior that doesn't really apply here

And again, being hostile or aggressive doesn't mean it's not constructive. If you want people to be nicer, more diplomatic, more respectful, yea good luck with that

[brazen pike]

there are not just devs, but ccs/communities/players putting effort to have this meetup happened
and this kind of meetup is quite rate, at least in my 10 years+ gacha life i dont see many.
and I cant agree you that a thread saying 'Ethera Meetup was HUGE L' is not rage baiting

[gleaming yoke]

If you want feedback, people are usually going to give feedback bc they're upset about something. Saying "give us feedback", or creating a place where people give feedback, is inviting angry, hostile, disrespectful opinions from people

[brazen pike]

so if you think about that, when you are so offened when people say 'quitting' or 'skill issues'?

[gleaming yoke]

Just use a different word than rage baiting. Did you see the definition I posted of it?

That deals with people posting content on social media for engagement. If someone posted a video saying "etheria devs ruined my life" then that's rage bait. Posting in a thread that "I don't think this will help" is absolutely not that

[brazen pike]

wouldnt the same concept and standard apply?

[brazen pike]

"I don't think this will help" is very different to 'Ethera Meetup was HUGE L'
"etheria devs ruined my life" is quite close to 'Ethera Meetup was HUGE L'

[gleaming yoke]

Ok, this is probably going to be my last message to you before you get blocked

Devs asking for feedback is saying "we want to hear how you feel", when a whale posts feedback saying "this is a problem" and someone responds with "skill issue", they didn't sign up for that (see #1392121973462794361 for the latest example of this -- there are many)

If you truly cannot understand the difference, then you have my condolences

[pearl vortex]

they dont want to make silver a redundant resource but they make a module upgrade require a abundunce of them, imagine casual player not max refreshing and just doing the stamina they got from dailies, it will take them like 2-4 day just to get a potential module that can be use.
like just make it so upgrading from 0-9 cost cheaper it would save a lot of this "coin aquisition issues"

[gleaming yoke]

It's not the message. It's the context, the platform, which distinguishes rage bait. No one is getting subscribers by posting shocking things here. Rage bait is used to get subscribers, likes, etc

[thick finch]

This game doesn't care much about your time.

Only people who could play this all day are content creators and the try hards who want perfection

[brazen pike]

Thank you for lecturing me about what is rage baiting. I can agree under your definition this post is not rage baiting.
It does not help any of us here though. It wont change my comment as 'lots of posts are hateful'

[ionic axle]

Nah I just think that not everyone knows what is good for a game long term

But that doesn’t mean that their advice is hateful

Just because we don’t all have a phd in game design doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to give feedback

At the end of the day the devs will make the decision on what to add and what not to add

[brazen pike]

I would not agree that people think of saying 'skill issue' is not constructive but saying 'Etheria Meetup was HUGE L' is constructive.
Both are not constructive, and hateful.

[hard eagle]

@pale aurora and @frank perch would say they're both constructive criticism

Even tho they aren't 😂

[frank perch]

I would need to investigate his opinion and logic to know

Don't make assumptions about people you do not know child

[hard eagle]

It doesn't even need an investigation

Just read the sentence

😂 😂

[frank perch]

Not interested

[coral finch]

@random comet so this came across my feed. Curious your thoughts
https://youtu.be/BBFdn-EluoM

[random comet]

This guy looks very scary

[coral finch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random comet]

I got the ai to highlight the parts where he gives his opinion and he's right. He keeps pointing out that they just need to increase currency drops or change sell or upgrade costs instead of the complicated reward structure. It's crazy that they refuse

[coral finch]

Yep, it's crazy that CCs are now saying it.

[frank perch]

Second best content creator after seanb

[maiden kindle]

[frank perch]

Bots?

[maiden kindle]

i added myself as well

[maiden kindle]

doing well, i appreciate how jack invest time on hearing and reading the players feedbacks, and stay strong with his principle and tweak what can be improved in his own way which he see reasonable. Which personally myself seldom see happening nowadays, alot of devs, its either not rly care for the players, or hear the players input too much without filtering and ruined it themselves.

I can see how Jack dont rly have to set up the meeting, he was not that comfortable, stutters time to time, but still go through with it because of his passion for the game that those little things doesnt even matter much anymore. And Chris for smoothing things out most of the time. At the same time i understand alot of players want an easier mode on the games they play, i appreciate the difficulty & resource limitation here. it gives more challenge and more planning needed, which could make each account more unique and not something everyone can just replicate, makes me appreciate the resources more, and doesnt feel like a chore so far as i have something i can improve on daily basis as there are tough contents to clear still. there are indeed alot of QoL which can be improved and most has been addressed and slowly improving, such as gear setup, shell pity system, etc.

Overall, im really satisfied myself, do take in the players feedback, as usual stay strong to your own principle filter what can be improved, and dont let the negative comments change how you approach things, keep the open communication up, and choose wisely. Rly appreciate what you & the team have been building so far.

[frank perch]

Copy pasta?

[thick finch]

Lol love this meme

[thick finch]

Sounds like you really love the game

And the company

[maiden kindle]

would say doing well so far, but things can change lets see how it go

[ionic axle]

I mean the game is mostly running on the hopes of players that this game will in fact get much more qol instead of being like hyv where you gotta wait years for basic qol

[pale aurora]

This guy has been relatively on point with his criticisms.

[frank perch]

Not to mention extensive observations

Hes a good one

[fierce coral]

i was playing daylie to maximize all but now im one step to dip out at this point.
I spend some money here and there but this issue needs to be fixed right now not in a week or 2 when the players already done with the game.
Im not interested in playing a game where i fight only whales cuz the casual low spender player base droped out for this stupid game management

[frank perch]

Play for 6 months and see

[thick finch]

Unfortunately you might have to

RTA has lots of whales

[ionic axle]

It’s like that in every game

Except I guess it’s less punishing to be a casual player in sw because the whale is just as likely to not have that many ld5s

[halcyon jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/to-be-hero-x-nice-to-be-hero-x-nice-lin-ling-gif-9666086873145188391

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[lethal swift]

are u trying to become a mod or something ?

[ionic axle]

Nah mods just wouldn’t say anything

[pale aurora]

The devs don't seem to be aware of how competitive or fast-moving the gacha space is. The prevailing sentiment has already been formed and it’s not good.

[hard eagle]

I also don't think they're aware of the on going war between russia and ukraine as they haven't resolved that as well

Not to forget the homeless and the starving kids in Africa

They need to fix all these within an hour

[lone forum]

It's definitely already established pretty bad optics among the modern gacha community. Remove yourself from this discord bubble and you'll see it's just another game that missed the mark, and not a very good one at that

Most people have moved on. I'm just sticking around because 11 years of SW gets a bit boring and CZN isn't out yet

[hard eagle]

CZN will most likely be the same

[pale aurora]

Yeah I’m already pretty invested—time more than money—so I’m willing to ride this dead horse into the ground for the next six months or so. But I feel as if the window for this to be a truly competitive game even remotely close to something like e7 has already shut.

[hard eagle]

E7 ain't that competitive to begin with

[void jewel]

Yeah looking like 2/3rd have quit or no longer care.

And their first month they were competitive with SW

Writing was on the wall. but they have ignored fucking up their Game Since beta too much.

[hard eagle]

Isn't that pretty normal for every new game that gets released

[void jewel]

If they fuck up yeah

its at least half

[hard eagle]

They don't even need to fuck up, people will stop watching eventually

[silver phoenix]

whats this for? etheria?

[void jewel]

cause Half my Hard Core Guild members have quit and every CC outside of e7/SW/pvp community have quit.

Luckily we been replacing them

[hard eagle]

atleast you found people to replace

it'd be even worse if there werent any

😂

[void jewel]

I don't think if it wasn't connected to Content Creators at the beginning ...

We would have found people

[hard eagle]

That definitely made it easy

[plush ocean]

I don't know why we keep seeing idiots who thinks complaining about the game or aspects in the game is crying and should quit instead?

Listen you dimwits who say or think like that, complaining is the reason why we didn't quit yet, if we don't complain then we don't care about any improvement for the game therefore we quit and leave it to EoS.

If u don't agree on these 3 things in here:

#1391795532019666977 message

like literally everyone in here including the CMs then ur a goddamn fakin troll or just playing the game by keep his head inside his arse.

[void jewel]

Also keep in mind Last 2x Event galvanized the community that Inferno was completely dumpster fire shit.

[hard eagle]

my union probably lost about 10 people which got replaced fast tho

[void jewel]

now more people have hit Inferno... this 2x weekend is gonna really test the community

YEP At this point They should just add a sweep button.

I refuse to believe they will fix the game's Difficulty

So just give up and give us a sweep button.

[plush ocean]

Game difficulty will fix itself when they fix the economy

[void jewel]

And it will take less resources since it won't have to be doing these runs in the background

[plush ocean]

Except Rengo

[void jewel]

Disagree

[plush ocean]

Shit too rng

[hard eagle]

I think so too

[plush ocean]

Most ppl who can't consistently clear inferno uses the same teams as the whales, only difference is their gear, if u fix yhe economy they'll gear faster

[hard eagle]

If inferno released 1-2 months from now it won't be such a struggle

[plush ocean]

Fixing economy also will help u get 3k score in cage event, since u can build 15 character much easier with 3-4 DPS

But why it's still a struggle to reach 3k, simply because ppl having hard time to gear up

Why? Economy is shit

[reef garnet]

I don't like the fact that their solution to the disappointment of the community with most of the content feeling like a bunch on casino-like RNG sliders packed together with a Waifu Skin on top is to add more events that are the same or more RNG based without fixing the underlying issues.

The solution to a broken economy shouldn't be more low win-probability attemps to get something that can be good or not but improving the odds of either getting better stuff, making it ( way ) more deterministic or increasing the base drop of eteria coins.

Scarcity can be an amazing tool to drive interest in a game, but if managed poorly ( like it is right now ) it works as a deterrent and will keep driving people away.

I for one know I won't be pulling on these banners cause I already have a queue of units I don't have the resources for.

[woven sage]

but you top of the ladder

[plush ocean]

I know, because I'm a whale therefore I'm building more characters faster than any F2P, and still struggle with game economy specially in building different units and sets in PvP.

I don't have that luxury even as a whale

That's how the economy is THAT bad

[woven sage]

I mean it depends what you build

im f2p

and im right under you

[plush ocean]

I'm also clearing all infernos consistently without SSania, except Rengo.

How? Gear, just better gear

[woven sage]

pve dps

one being a klhoros

[plush ocean]

I don't use Kloros in any farm

I don't have Xiada aswell

It's mostly Rosa and Diting, and some of it Yeli

[woven sage]

p sure rosa/yeli way better in nico

[void jewel]

Whats your team and Lattice/Dupe Investments.

[woven sage]

and if you dropped yeli for somethin else in your r2 you score higher

[plush ocean]

I use both Diting and Rosa for nico to clear it in 30-45 secs

[void jewel]

Eh For Not Nico.

[plush ocean]

My dupes aren't that high in SSRs, but all my SR units are max dupe

[void jewel]

Nico Inferno is literally the only Inferno Stage that is currently "Fine"

[tame otter]

It’s a marathon, not a sprint

[woven sage]

you could probably hit 3.5 k if you swapped in beyontin or some other cycler

[plush ocean]

Inferno still should be farming stages, the only one ok right now is nico I agree.

Doesn't mean terror/doki/Aurora/sharon/hoyan is totally ok, no they are not

[void jewel]

Its a Marathon that requires you to sprint 8-9 hours a day.

[void jewel]

[plush ocean]

These should be easy farm stages, because ppl don't want to spend 8hrs a day finishing their 1000 stamina in a PvE eSport contest

[woven sage]

I mean i did the path of just farming h4 for 12/8 and decent right side

then you can invest in units for inferno

[void jewel]

YEP

[woven sage]

yes its unit diff too but I say this in every post, if you got through 500-1k summons and cant figure 1 team out for hell4 then yes the game is bad or you got omega shafted and have nothing to work with even with half ass gear

[tame otter]

You know it’s bad when your biggest glazer makes a vid and says the same issues we’ve been talking about this whole time

[void jewel]

Whats really sad kinda is they nerfed Ethernet before they nerfed inferno.

[tame otter]

Wdym. Ethernet is the farming stage and inferno is the endgame

[pearl vortex]

they nerf hoyan before they nerf sharon, make it make sense

[plush ocean]

Who biggest glazer again, there are too many I can't pinpoint the one u talking about

[tame otter]

Barcode

[void jewel]

Most of the Dev talk was Volkin and SeanB complaining about Inferno they just cut out those 2 hours

[plush ocean]

Don't know him

[void jewel]

[tame otter]

There are no complaints in Etheria

[plush ocean]

Nerf Sharon to get Sharon hard rewarda

[void jewel]

This is also another issue...

[plush ocean]

[void jewel]

I get better drops from farming Hell Rengo

[pearl vortex]

look at the dmg that im doing

[tame otter]

Dw you will get 1 mythic every 5 runs next week

Trust

[plush ocean]

Gear diff, skill diff, economy diff

[woven sage]

wheres your khloros

[tame otter]

Have you ever tried doing more damage?

[woven sage]

[plush ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/may-allah-bless-you-allah-yhdeek-يهديك-gif-24575505

[pearl vortex]

bench as he should be

[woven sage]

cant be complainin if you got the sauce

[pearl vortex]

give me the recipe then, where my lattice

[tame otter]

We got server 7 before rengo nurf

[woven sage]

been using klhoros for terror since the beginning

since i had nothing else

diting / klhoros

[pearl vortex]

i aint building 1 character for a boss

[woven sage]

khloros+speed buffer+cachi+dmg buffer?

[plush ocean]

Rosa is best overall PvE DPS, no one can change my mind

[void jewel]

you right

[woven sage]

like I said I used khlros in inferno terror

and hes like bis pve dps for semi long fights anyway

which is like over 80% of single boss pve events

[plush ocean]

It's funny, I always use Kloros if I want to 3 star an inferno stage

[woven sage]

pay your 1-2 SSR dps lattice tax

[woven sage]

people underrate him

[plush ocean]

He chunks

[woven sage]

but yeli just better in short scenarios and fills def break slot by herself

like as a new player or even just f2p just reroll and play the game to get enough crystals to pity yeli

its your dps for all inferno stages

inferno mod stages

[random comet]

RTA queues have gotten long at prime time in the evening, even just dicking around in platinum

[void jewel]

[random comet]

I'm rematching people or hitting bots 50% of the time

[void jewel]

Checks out

Most people can't do RTA because they have to give 120% to the Farming....

[random comet]

I wish people could be convinced it's worth it to throw shit cleaves into the ring for the currency and keep the queue a little smoother

Only takes like 45 minutes

[pale aurora]

The best way to do RTA is to queue really fast for 150ish times, instantly forfeit, then do the quick missions on the weekend. I don’t have time for a 3 minute draft to have a 50% chance to be outsped. You can do up to 10 forfeits a minute so you’re done your “quota” in 15-20m.

[hard eagle]

I think it's gonna take longer than that

[random comet]

I like tricking people into banning my dumb ass first pick bait Kloss even when I eventually get outsped

But I also heard you don't get the 10 for leaving during draft?

[gleaming hedge]

im thinking about starting to hoard stam for 2x today

and maybe i can use the time to go ff farm rta currency for once

efficiency! or something

i guess

[pale aurora]

You get 10 for leaving as soon as the draft screen pops.

I’m telling you it’s 25 minutes on a slowish day to do over 1k currency

[random comet]

Interesting

[pale aurora]

You could do it even faster if you’re on PC and automating

[random comet]

It's not much faster than just cleaving then

[pale aurora]

Averages out probably close to the same with far less stress

[acoustic thistle]

I dropped all the way to iron/bronze and can get some easy wins to farm currency

[random comet]

Doesn't your win rate even out to about 50 doing that anyway?

[acoustic thistle]

No because i did leave so many games on purpose to drop

And then actually play only a few games to get currency

[gleaming hedge]

you dont even have to finish draft?

just get into select and dip?

[acoustic thistle]

No, you just leave as soon as the selection phase starts

[gleaming hedge]

nice

[acoustic thistle]

You get your 10 coins and drop rank

[gleaming hedge]

how many coins do you get for winning?

[acoustic thistle]

You can either farm the 2000 that way and you can do it in like an hour

[acoustic thistle]

100

So it's 20 wins

But to get the same amount of coins, you have to leave/lose 200 games

[halcyon jolt]

Just need to leave 30 or so fights a day for cap coins

[gleaming hedge]

thats a pain in the ass

[halcyon jolt]

It’s pretty easy

Just match and leave on character selection

Don’t even need to get into the fight

Takes seconds

[gleaming hedge]

doing it daily 30 times is still pretty tedious and like

is this rly what we want to be doing

its 2k coins per week cap right

lets say an avg play has a 50/50 wr

it'd take a but under 40 games a week to cap out

thats like 5-6 games a day?

kinda high time requirement tbh

if we use a bit below avg player with like 40/60 wr its a bit over 40 games a day

still like 6-7 games a day

its probably fastest to cleave noobs then ff ur rank back down

then cleave back up again

but this just ends up abusing new players that actually wanna play lol

[acoustic thistle]

I mean no... i'd rather play pvp... but I just can't be bothered to build my units and out pve grind on halt to do it

And like me, many others. But if the devs don't fix the problem, i'm just abusing the system

I do it during downtime

Instead of watching the screen

[halcyon jolt]

^

That’s pretty much my thought

I have other things to do than rta. It’s just faster to go in and quit before it starts

[acoustic thistle]

Plus i think that the person that receives the free win is happy, so i'm not really hurting anyone

[gleaming hedge]

theoretically eventually we can farm in the bg and play rta in active screen time

but i think thats pretty far off

[acoustic thistle]

Depends... not necessarily

[gleaming hedge]

if they introduce different pve / pvp gear loadouts yes

but thatll take a good amount of time to implement

[acoustic thistle]

If you want to use say "tsukiyo" in pvp, while i' using her for farming

I can't put a different aet

[quartz locust]

devs would need to kill off their sacred cow that is 10% chance to resist, in PvE

[acoustic thistle]

Set*

[obtuse saddle]

I think revelation being in it's current state also an important factor

[gleaming hedge]

i think it hasnt been long enough to see how bruisers (bloodbath) fare against it

[acoustic thistle]

Pretty sure they can remove it in pve while keeping it in pvp

[gleaming hedge]

and how meta warping rev or bb itself is

but like its not like a lot ppl are really running to go test it rn

or can

[quartz locust]

yup but will they? is the question

[acoustic thistle]

Most likely not. Surely not in the short term

I think they are looking at other things first

And i think they should looking at other things first

[obtuse saddle]

I don't mind if they fix it for pvp eventually

[random comet]

Wdym, you watch every single run for bad resist RNG and reset?

[obtuse saddle]

just worried pvp will be a dead mode by then

[acoustic thistle]

If pvp dies, the game dies too

[quartz locust]

yes 🤡 because a failed run is 1 stamina gone

[obtuse saddle]

yeah pretty much

[random comet]

That's wild, I don't have that dedication. I just piss it into the wind

I don't mind spending 102 or 103 instead of 100 though

[obtuse saddle]

yeah idk about that

ure gonna burn ureself out like this

[quartz locust]

my failure rate is quite high so I can’t do that

[random comet]

Aah

[pale aurora]

More tedious than 3-5 minutes of drafting and prep just to be outsped by a Kloss or Kaz? Not really.

[random comet]

My drafts all take like a minute

[gleaming hedge]

if i got gear diffed, i got gear diffed i take the L

theres a diff between trying to play and climb vs just zzzzzzzzzzzzzz for currency

[pale aurora]

I actually have a lot of decently built units as I was able to break into Doki farming early. So I hem and haw when I actually pick

[pale aurora]

I’m Diamond 3 and I quit half my matches if not more

Someone picks someone I want, quit. Don’t like how the draft is shaping up, quit. Etc.

[random comet]

There's a nice middle ground in just throwing 5 units in there, cleaving, or leaving the second you get your comp blocked or outsped with no chance to cut

[gleaming hedge]

thats also just inherent issues to a month old game though, everyones unit pool is shit

[pale aurora]

I dunno man, e7 never broke the speed meta and its so baked into PVE too

[gleaming hedge]

and like most ppl cant even be assed to go play rta rn

[pale aurora]

I think the path is chosen

[gleaming hedge]

are you sure

e7 has had various points where cleave was stupid af

LUA

[pale aurora]

Well there’s the chicken > egg or PVE > PVP quadry in this game

[gleaming hedge]

also its a much older game with way more units in the pool

[random comet]

SW hasn't seen a cleave meta in a long long time

[gleaming hedge]

yeah this is the worst issue rn like

the pace of pve is to the point where when the hell are ppl ever gonna get to rta its very much a side quest

[obtuse saddle]

tbh and I'm not one who been defending them but being not RTA ready in a month is reasonable

[coral finch]

Morning yall, any update since I was asleep? I saw Yeli was "fixed" but not sure what it was for

[obtuse saddle]

it's just with all the blunders ppl are just pissed at everything at this point

her passive was bugged and it got fixed

[hard eagle]

They're even pissed at things getting fixed

Literally just getting pissed at everything that's happening with the game

good or bad

[somber apex]

RTA was fun for the first week. Now I'm just doing the insta-quit to get the weekly cap.

It's a chore to switch gears

[obtuse saddle]

the devs are the ones who created this atmosphere for themselves

and now they better act fast if they want to save it

[random comet]

The maintenance broke her follow-up attack but they fixed it within 2 hours

Solid response on their part

[acoustic thistle]

Yeah, they saw the feedback and fixed immediately

Really good to see tbh

It means that if they want, they can be fast af at fixing things

[obtuse saddle]

yeah I think they woke up finally

[random comet]

Criticism is only useful when it's honest and we gotta give credit where it's due

[hard eagle]

they've been doing the same since game started

remember how many hotfixes we were getting everyday

first 1-2 weeks

lol

[obtuse saddle]

clearly it wasn't enough

the customer is always right at the end

[acoustic thistle]

I think that they took too long to release a statement after first people started complaining

[coral finch]

Ahh so they fixed the unit that broke got it.

[coral finch]

I'm just sad man.... the game is in a state of where....

"I like the game, but I can't actually play the game" due to the economy and other issues.

[open saddle]

same same

im gated cause lack of lily / tsukiyomi

[thin schooner]

true, i dont refresh anymore

now i hoard until maybe the game balances itself or dies

[coral finch]

Firstly, goated name just wanted to say that.

Secondly.. like they say they want us to use all these units but don't give us a the resorces to tinker with them.

[thin schooner]

you can work around that with other characters, but you kinda need them well build, and... you cant cauze 1 module takes full day of farm, i mean you technically can, but like in 2 months?

[thin schooner]

much much appreciated. And yeah i mean, you can do that but like i said, 1 character a month, so maybe a half a year to build a good "f2p" team everyone can access.

[random comet]

That's assuming a good team only includes fully skilled SSRs

Which isn't a good assumption

[coral finch]

@random comet brother I can't believe I'm about to say this...

But Stix just got a Rare W

[random comet]

Who's that

[thin schooner]

nono just using sr units, or even blue units you might be able to clear even aurora 4, i dont know about rengoktsu.
But with insane gear requirement.

[coral finch]

Look up Stix and look at his latest video

Like... it's bad when Stix earns a rare W

[random comet]

I'm not saying good teams are entirely SR or R either, but there's a realistic middle ground most people can achieve with strategically invested SSRs supplemented by fully invested (very easy to do) SRs/Rs

[random comet]

Loading up this video I got an ad of recut Tectone footage of him pulling units lmao

[thin schooner]

Yes, yes, I get you. The thing is, I wanted to try to take the developers' side in what they were trying to communicate.

[random comet]

He seems like he's just drama farming without even playing tbh

[random comet]

Fair enough

[coral finch]

I can see that, but like all the stuff he covered... it legit.

[random comet]

Yeah whoever submitted those posts to his sub did good selection work

[halcyon jolt]

^

[open saddle]

yeah no before that happens i quit tbh its a bad game design that this game is build around this 2 units

i spend like close to 2k and pulled 2500+ yeah no im a bit pissed ngl 😄

im more behind as a f2p

thats a fcking joke ^^

[thin schooner]

for sure, im not waiting for 2 months or half a year to build a full team, I was just pointing out how crazy it sounds

[open saddle]

yeah as i said i whale 2k dont got lily a f2p got liyl and is ahead of me gg

[thin schooner]

same i have really good units and i also did spend, But the obstacle to keep playing is still there

[open saddle]

yeah i have all except of this 2 units

idk i should refund and move on or not

[lethal swift]

drop another 2k

[open saddle]

no

mate

fcking no

[thin schooner]

yeah! double down!

on jacks wallet! lmao

[lethal swift]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-genshin-gif-22459529

[open saddle]

he can work in my basement

[thin schooner]

this is gold

[inland shoal]

Well ima just play till CZN releases then dumping this game.

[thin schooner]

@coral finch i see you there promoting the awarness of this monstrosity

[thin schooner]

yeah imma check that one out, but im kinda icky on the "cards and roguelike" gameplay

[inland shoal]

It's made by OG E7 dev

So expect alot of fanservice but the base game seems good

At least they have E7 as a track history

I think the problem was that Etheria is xD first big game or something

[obtuse saddle]

What's CZN?

[inland shoal]

Prob lots of money was invested and so they are afraid of messing up the balance of the game

But in not doing so even more problems arised

Chaos Zero Nightmare

[thin schooner]

i heard they were inspired by summoners war and e7, but like most new developers they want to make their own thing and fk it up instead of improving it.

[tame otter]

But it should be all good. Because it’s a marathon. Not a sprint

[inland shoal]

NGL they should have done something like hyperlink refresh every 2 months or something.

Pull wise it's been generous but god damn the rest of the things are as dry as a desert

[acoustic thistle]

I'm sorry but he clearly doesn't play the game. I stopped watching when he said that you get 1 xp book for doing all 12 weekly quests. Like i get it, we are pissed because we would like to have more of everything, but spreading bullshit about the game is another thing. I'd rather listen to informed opinions

[inland shoal]

And the problem is the characters aren't fully fleshed out when you pull them until you skill up them

Which is smart but at least allow 16 as a f2p

[acoustic thistle]

It's more surprising that people that actually play the game and know the things, such as you, do fall for ragebaiting from youtubers that do it just to get views from angry people such as yourself

And i'm saying it as someone that DOES NOT defend the game, and wish for change quickly

[inland shoal]

Well Stix always been a drama farmer

[acoustic thistle]

This is just spreading misinformation and hurting possible growth of a game we do like (since we are here getting mad about it, means that we do care) and you giving traction to it is counterproductive

[open saddle]

czn?

[inland shoal]

Chaos Zero Nightmare

[open saddle]

[open saddle]

ah

[tame otter]

He’s getting off of reddit though. And it was a highly upvoted post

And it had the picture to be fair

[acoustic thistle]

Yeah I can understand him making a mistake in interpreting the picture, but people that do know the game and say "Rare W from him"... like...

[tame otter]

Etheria really needs to work on their weekly and daily quest ui

So you can see the whole rewards for the week/day

[acoustic thistle]

He's just farming people that are mad. Again i'm mad too and i also think that they could change weekly rewards, but i can't agree or give my view to a dude dramafarming

[obtuse saddle]

drama farmers are a worthless existence

[gleaming yoke]

Players (CCs are players too) get upset about things, and the CCs releasing videos about why they're (and other players) upset is a problem? What are they supposed to do? Not say anything?

[obtuse saddle]

I'm also mad but I'm more mad at them trying to farm my mad for their profit

[gleaming yoke]

I don't pay much attention to CCs, but I'm not seeing what else they're supposed to do, other than say nothing or just pretend things are great

[obtuse saddle]

It seems ure not familiar of what a drama farmer is

[open saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbJ6babBArQ bruh

he is a joke lol

[gleaming yoke]

Possibly, feel free to enlighten me

[acoustic thistle]

First that is not an informed opinion.
cc's can do whatever they want, it's up to the intelligence of each one of us to give tractions to video from people that know what they are talking about and not people that are just dramafarming

[obtuse saddle]

In short they are not really content creators for the game

They just come play a little half assed then make a video of why they are quitting and rage bait ppl

[acoustic thistle]

If seanb makes a video, i listen to it and decide if it's good or not. Stix doesn't know the game and makes a video about its problems

Like what

And we have people here that are just mad and listen to the opinions of people that don't even play the game

[tame otter]

It was an opinion of those who played the game. That’s why it’s upvoted on the Etheria reddit

[gleaming yoke]

Does anyone know how much he plays the game? Like if his account level was 12, sure, he has no idea what he's talking about. I genuinely have no idea if this guy actually plays or not though

[daring zinc]

This feels like a case of potential slop coverage that just happens to align, in broad strokes, with what the more dedicated playerbase feels.

[gleaming yoke]

Great point, so his dedication to etheria or whatever really is irrelevant here

[tame otter]

He doesn’t play im pretty sure. He’s reiterating what the playerbase says on their Reddit

[acoustic thistle]

But if he gives commentary saying thay that all the weekly quests give 1 gold xp book, i literally don't even watch the rest

[open saddle]

stix is a idiot now he confirmed it again

[acoustic thistle]

People that don't play the game, watch the video and think "oh that game gives only 1 gold xp book for all weeklies"
I can only talk about this point because i couldn't watch further

[maiden kindle]

When i see Stix videos

its always good games

but i always press dont recommend channel

because .... 🤣

[open saddle]

bro said we jsut get 1 gold xp book for the week and thats the whole reward truely he dont inform before do a video

[maiden kindle]

i forgot why i dont like him.

[gleaming yoke]

I don't have any issues with that. I think just grouping all CCs making critical content as "drama farmers" is weird. If a CC glazes a garbage game, no one will watch. If a CC trashes a great game, no one will watch. Even if they don't play, if they see an upset community and make a video about it, maybe they're bandwagoning at worst, but that's kind of what every CC does

[acoustic thistle]

Ah man... now i want to see the rest

[open saddle]

@hardy sigil know the pain

[solemn valve]

God kill me

[open saddle]

[open saddle]

[acoustic thistle]

I don't have issue with the CC for making the video (evn though he could have researched a bit more), i'm more surprised at people like @coral finch that come in here and say "damn, Stix's latest video is a W"

[obtuse saddle]

Ofc and no body made that claim in this thread I'm pretty sure

[maiden kindle]

Any ER Content Creator recommendation thats more about the gameplay and less the drama play?

[gleaming yoke]

This really highlights why devs need to keep the community happy. If they don't, they'll complain, and when they do, CCs (drama farmers or decent ones) will pick that up and broadcast that negativity and end up hurting the game more

[solemn valve]

https://tenor.com/view/paragwontbms-katy-goat-story-gif-16393696116606893509

[open saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/autobots-rollout-cat-funny-rolling-out-fall-gif-16792382

[solemn valve]

thee seanb

[solemn valve]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-knife-gif-13655503135447721047

[maiden kindle]

aite, will peek when got time.

[solemn valve]

seanb is a real one

[acoustic thistle]

Seanb is good. Even if i'm not so sure he will still be playing the game after the meetup

[tame otter]

Seiimore

[solemn valve]

if only they didn't ignore his ass during the meetup

[tame otter]

Idk how it auto corrected to demote

[solemn valve]

now e7 is his new best friend

[maiden kindle]

ah i see

[kind cove]

e7 sponsoring him was diabolical

lowkey big brain tho

[solemn valve]

e7 sponsoring his ER only channel lmao

they knew what they were doing

[acoustic thistle]

Was there more after that sponsor? Lol

[tame otter]

Etheria was an ad for epic 7 this whole time

[kind cove]

"Disgruntled with the developers that won't fix the issues? Well, come and play our game that doesn't have most of those issues!"

I made an E7 acc about a week ago it is lowkey going a lot better than my etheria is

E7 still has issues but the thing is Etheria has all of e7's issues (since lots of the systems are ripped from E7), but E7 does not have etheria's issues

[tame otter]

I probably would like e7 but ngl the old gacha graphics and icons just is a turn off for me

[kind cove]

Valid

[acoustic thistle]

The graphic is amazing

Is the UI that is trash

[tame otter]

Like summoners war is older and looks better

[kind cove]

idk how SW looks but Id say E7 looks better than etheria

[solemn valve]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-gif-1890448314464026171

[thorny isle]

Then why can’t yall go play E7 and leave their server? What’s the point playing and complaining about something that griefs you?

It’s not healthy

[tame otter]

Same way you can’t leave this thread

[solemn valve]

💀

[maiden kindle]

i rmmbr he got unintentionally cut when he was talking midway during the discussion. Though the cut answer was reasonable, but probably left a bad taste.

[acoustic thistle]

You can like two things at the same time

[thorny isle]

I’m enjoying the thread because solid point were made without comparison

[solemn valve]

he brought up issues like resets and lettuce scarcity and they just like talked about something else lol

[thorny isle]

Now yall are on some E7 is better I downloaded. Since you’ve moved on. Move on

[solemn valve]

could've been edited out but no one's ever gonna admit that they ignored someone

until we get the uncut footage

[maiden kindle]

ahh

[solemn valve]

yea it was 3.5 hrs condensed to 45 min

[maiden kindle]

i see i see

[solemn valve]

but they kept a lot of volkins love for rta

👀

[maiden kindle]

thats too bad. but i aint gonna watch the full vid too

[tame otter]

Ah yes. E7 better so we now must think Etheria is garbage and we should remove XD games from this realm

I didn’t know it worked like that sorry

[acoustic thistle]

What is RTA? Is that something to eat? Lol

[tame otter]

I’ll get on that

[solemn valve]

real time arena

[maiden kindle]

[thorny isle]

Exactly.

[acoustic thistle]

I know, i was memeing

[primal solstice]

yo flight and wuzzy are you still playing

[solemn valve]

u smell

[solemn valve]

yea

I'm flip flopping on ER

[primal solstice]

join me in uninstall paradise

[acoustic thistle]

It's just that in this game pvp is non existent for now

[primal solstice]

I'm free from Etheria

[solemn valve]

I needa pull for nahor

I love pulling

[acoustic thistle]

See you tomorrow

[tame otter]

I am cause this is a side side side game for me atm

[kind cove]

Im doing the bare minimum to maintain my account atp

[tame otter]

This game somehow got me to install umemasume

[solemn valve]

yea I'm doingER like somewhat casually

[tame otter]

[thorny isle]

Like if you wanna complain about the game make Your complain known. But if you moved on from the game leave the discord. Stop trying to doom post. We want the dev or Etheria to take the solid point from the feedback not “E7 or this game is better”

[solemn valve]

just bare minimum stuff

[acoustic thistle]

Some people just want to see the world burn. Or the game EOS 🤣

[thorny isle]

What didn’t like was they said the gear is more important than the coins and economy 🤣🤣🤣

[frank perch]

Entertainment

[thorny isle]

Yeah, they lack power in their personal life. Feel ohh this not catered to me 100% it shouldn’t exist. I don’t want them fix just uninstall. Destroy it. Typical cancel culture folks.

[tame otter]

Nothing to do with cancel culture but ok

Every voice matters in Etheria

[solemn valve]

[plush ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-noooo-omg-omg-no-gif-12379692

[thorny isle]

Has everything to do with it, ZZZ faced this people , wuwa faced this people. Now Etheria. Hopefully they won’t cower but stand their ground like tribe nine. HSR castorice issue. It’s same mentality

[acoustic thistle]

I personally don't mind. If they complain loud enough and fix the game, it's beneficial for me too. I just want the criticism to be based on facts. Not random bullshit

[tame otter]

That’s gacha tribalism. Not cancels culture

[acoustic thistle]

Funny thing is that all the games you mentioned are still up while tribe9 eos'd

[thorny isle]

Exactly! Wuwa was alot doompost calling temu

[plush ocean]

ZZZ, HSR and wuwa player damn you completed the holy Trinity of brainrot

[gleaming yoke]

Did tribe 9 stand their ground? I missed everything about that game

[thorny isle]

They didn’t. Just gave in to these folks. And forgot about the ones that love the game.

[tame otter]

They stood their ground to eos

[thorny isle]

Bro think he superior. What a joke of a person

[thorny isle]

That they did. 🤣🤣🤣

[plush ocean]

Why u showed up in here and chose violence brother

Chill yo

[thorny isle]

Literally talking about himself but can’t take what u dish out

Crazy

[plush ocean]

Who ignited this dude

[thorny isle]

🤡🤡🤡

I just hope Etheria fixes shit. Like these events.

These events better fix the coins economy

[solemn valve]

👀

[open saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267683588590141446/1346829288133103678/9311f6d59cb59c848453b0db10001748406949928-1.gif

[halcyon jolt]

Who tf is stix?

[open saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbJ6babBArQ

this mf

[thorny isle]

Timeline of the changes will be nice to look forward to

[plush ocean]

I hope it fixes u first, obviously ur in distain and AoEing everyone in here for reasons I don't know

[solemn valve]

they stopped caring

[halcyon jolt]

Oooh that dude.

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-walk-away-not-happy-michael-scott-gif-11889797

[daring zinc]

Mhm. The guy that seems to put out 3 videos every day covering literally every gacha under the sun.

[open saddle]

yeah the cringe lord stix

[thorny isle]

Ooof sorry you life suck bruh. Don’t project on me

[halcyon jolt]

“Hello fellow gacha players I am like you”

[acoustic thistle]

It would be cool if they could put out a roadmap

So people know what to expect

[thorny isle]

Does bruh have a positive thing on his channel seems just complaint about every game for views

[plush ocean]

I'll take it as a compliment, coming from someone who doesn't know where is his head from his ass

[halcyon jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-kanye-west-south-park-s13e5-fish-sticks-gif-23033524

[open saddle]

he is a fcking doomposter always

[thorny isle]

He thought he ate

[open saddle]

and put halfbaked ass vids out@thorny isle

[thorny isle]

Absolutely tired of them

If I scroll through this channel and all they do is talk shit

[plush ocean]

I'm tired of ur mom

[thorny isle]

I don’t even watch

[gleaming yoke]

People tired of the game -> they should quit

People tired of reading feedback -> they should stay here and add to the complaints (being off topic the entire time)

Yea makes sense

[acoustic thistle]

Tbf, the people complaining are the ones that care about the game the most.

[viral wharf]

Regardless of how everyone feels about the Stix guy, he was just highlighting Reddit posts. Sure that guy doesn’t seem to know much about Etheria but the issues he highlighted were completely real and are felt by the majority of the community.

Nothing he highlighted in the video was wrong.

[gleaming yoke]

Nooooo he's not CCing the right way, the way I like, we gatekeep in this house /s

[viral wharf]

Hahah right?

[open saddle]

weekly quest sir?

he make it worse then it is

he said for the whole week jsut 1 xp book

and that isnt true

[gleaming hedge]

he dont even know much or play whys he making videos

[thorny isle]

They don’t care about the game if this solution is quit, E7 is better, uninstall, fake trends of loosing players. The ones that care are the ones that actually play the game, build well, progress to inferno and can list the challenges they are facing. While still saying what they love about the game.

[gleaming hedge]

[viral wharf]

Pls go reread my post.

[plush ocean]

How is losing players is fake trends ? Half my guild left the game

[viral wharf]

Who cares if he’s highlighting valid pain points? He was showcasing posts made by people who DO play the game?

[thorny isle]

Seanb, volkin. They complain but they give insight and are still playing daily and beating inferno with bare minimum team at times

[acoustic thistle]

Some phrases just come because of frustration. I'm sure the people here complaining love the game more than someone who casually plays few days a week.

[open saddle]

i did and it isnt 100% correct

[plush ocean]

Beating inferno with bare minimum teams

[maiden kindle]

[open saddle]

when i dont like the game i dont swipe in the game

[viral wharf]

Christ ur comprehension skills seem to be lacking. I specifically said “the guy doesn’t know much about the game”. That doesn’t change the points he highlighted.

[gleaming yoke]

Yep 💯

[acoustic thistle]

Are you swiping now?

[open saddle]

i did today

for the lattice

[thorny isle]

It’s casual barely grind players doom posting. Then they show you the most ridiculous builds, and wasted their lacctice on wrong characters. Bricked those account themselves. Start crying.

[plush ocean]

Thx for clowning the content, this GW system is so bad it hurts

[acoustic thistle]

Tbf you shouldnt brick your account because you didnt watch 200 guides on who to build

[maiden kindle]

[thorny isle]

Never watch 200 guides

Read skill

[acoustic thistle]

I'm on hold for now. I want to buy it but after monday i was like... ugh

[plush ocean]

I like how u read seanb and his friends on clearing inferno with bare minimum teams

[thorny isle]

There is no game where you don’t take insight from people succeeding in it. It’s foolishness

[open saddle]

understandable

[thorny isle]

How are guides made, by people reading!

[acoustic thistle]

Not everyone wants to put that much effort into a mobile game. I think if you have units invested and play the game, you should clear

[plush ocean]

Technically by people writing, not reading

[thorny isle]

If you have have time to read skill in detail then you watch guides. This is not rocket science

[acoustic thistle]

Not everyone is a theorycrafter or want to invest that much time into reading guide...

[plush ocean]

U think prydwen guides didn't brick half the community

[thorny isle]

Why are you following prydwen guides

[plush ocean]

God forbid

[gleaming hedge]

i still see ppl in world chat recommend prydwen

[plush ocean]

I'll follow the CCs that clear inferno with bare minimum teams!

[thorny isle]

I have taking advice from folk on here on discord that have progressed. They tell you what to do. How to do it. Simple

[plush ocean]

Yay

Where is bare minimum Rengo

[thorny isle]

Many player respond, on what’s best module or shells on here. Those guys are figuring it out.

[acoustic thistle]

All my teams are bare minimum... i don't have lily

[gleaming hedge]

do you at least have tsuki

[solemn valve]

anyone with Lily in their acc sleeps by themselves at night

[thorny isle]

Watch barcode, he gives alternatives. Volkin as gives many F2P alternatives.

[acoustic thistle]

Yes. She's built

[plush ocean]

If u think clearing inferno is the goal, ur a moron, inferno is made to be farmed consistently every single day without spending 8hrs on repeats

[gleaming hedge]

this is why im looking at all these cope rengoku teams like

no this isnt healthy or reasonable

[plush ocean]

Mr. Bare minimum clear inferno

[gleaming hedge]

to have 7 minute auto teams

[plush ocean]

What a joker

[gleaming hedge]

or 50/50 wr teams on a lucky streak

[thorny isle]

Later bruh cries in corner when you start going on his ass lol. What a clown. 🤡

[plush ocean]

Good luck farming ur bare minimum 5min Aurora teams with 70% winrate the x2 event will be very juicy for u

[thorny isle]

Kazuyo red is a good lily sub. Lily is one piece of the puzzle. She alone won’t unbrick your account.

[gleaming hedge]

these run limits also need to be increased lowkey

[thorny isle]

But if you’re not full gone reroll for lily

[thorny isle]

You think it’s cap🤣🤣🤣 see I rerolled so quick.

I just hope they fix the coins economy, the cost to stat check is too painful 😩😩

[plush ocean]

trust me, I'm far from crying in a corner in here, my brain isn't brainrotted from playing shitty PvE games and compare them to a PvP one.

[gleaming hedge]

man

i want the last cage rewards but

[random comet]

Go see who's like #4 on the cage leaderboard lmao

[gleaming hedge]

idk i didnt have a 3rd dps and i scuffed together a rin for this

[plush ocean]

and yes, inferno shouldn't be that hard even if I can farm "most" of them consistently

[acoustic thistle]

I havent even gotten the 2000 points fragments...

[thorny isle]

It shouldn’t

[gleaming hedge]

lets go back to lc and cook how far are you

[random comet]

My dumb ass just eked out 1500 yesterday

[gleaming hedge]

you might be able to scrape it, i used really scuff shit

[plush ocean]

decided to take a break today and ended up 12, idk how the fuck

[gleaming hedge]

to the point some units had un leveled left side modules

[jade oxide]

Bs event

[gleaming hedge]

dirty yeli abusers everywhere

[plush ocean]

it's funny, even no.1 couldn't get the SSS reward

[thorny isle]

What doesn’t this have to do with my argument that people should talk about real problems in the games ? What does this have to with it?

[gleaming hedge]

i refuse to raise rosa or pull yeli so im just sitting here like

[plush ocean]

@thorny isle where is the bare minimum team to reach SSS in this content, can you point out a good content creator for me

[thorny isle]

My Rosa is also unbuilt. We don’t even have lacctice to build them

[gleaming hedge]

i have the lattice to build rosa i just dont get very good return on it cuz

[thorny isle]

What are you talking about?

[gleaming hedge]

the only thing she'd do for me is make aurora faster and...idk union boss?

[jade oxide]

My middle team is ass

[plush ocean]

I literally replied to a picture

[gleaming hedge]

and +1 dps for events like cage

[thorny isle]

Show me the text you’re responding to?

[gleaming hedge]

so if rosa was a 4 lattice invest i'd be ok but shes 8 really...

[acoustic thistle]

I feel like my teams were not that bad...

[gleaming hedge]

quite expensive

[acoustic thistle]

But i can get to 1700

[gleaming hedge]

you only need 300 more you might be able to make it

do you have 3-4 dps tho

[thorny isle]

All dps are at a minimum 8 lacctice investment, yeli is 12

[gleaming hedge]

cuz one of my team is massiah without even s1 lvled

[gleaming hedge]

yeah but the issue is i dont need another dps rn aside from cage rumble

so it feels a bit ?

[thorny isle]

If you’re doing good then you’re doing great. What’s lacking in your account right now.

[gleaming hedge]

i cant farm rengoku inferno

i can clear it off resetting this sht over n over but uh

no

[thorny isle]

For me its consistent inferno clears.

[plush ocean]

@thorny isle I'm proving a point that all u did was run your mouth here pretending u know better than everyone in here that have a real complaints about the game, your responses was as bad as ur reading comprehension, "go back to E7", "I watch CCs that clear inferno with bare minimum teams".

and the one you talking to have better PvE progression than literally all the CCs you watch, the dogs of them or the actually good ones.

[thorny isle]

Sammmmeee

[gleaming hedge]

i dont have yeli either

im also twiddling my thumbs not sure what to lattice for rta

maybe will go throw my face at it this week to get a feel

[obtuse saddle]

lilith

[thorny isle]

When you finish seething let me know. If you wanna have a conversation. Else go cry to your mom.

[random comet]

Wat

For what, specifically, are all DPS an 8 lattice investment

[plush ocean]

nice response bro, I guess ur totally cooked

[acoustic thistle]

Yeah

[plush ocean]

"well-done"

[thorny isle]

You don’t think so? Yeli s2 to level 4, s2 and s3 fully maxed out. For me

[acoustic thistle]

I'll try something. Didn't really try much

[random comet]

This isn't English

[gleaming hedge]

a good amount of dps can get away with 4 i think

[thorny isle]

Sorry fixed lol

[gleaming hedge]

like obv more is better but like to get up and running 4 is enough for lika xiada and massiah isnt it?

[gleaming hedge]

idk about khloros

[random comet]

I agree about Yeli but in general I think you can get away with 4 lattices in a lot of DPS unless you're pushing for top rank content clears

[thorny isle]

On my account they can’t! Maybe because my module stats are not the best. I make for it with skill stats to clear

[plush ocean]

Yeli kinda needs lattice in all

[obtuse saddle]

xiada is kinda ass in rta anyway

[plush ocean]

to truely shine

[gleaming hedge]

i meant like in general, going back to cage rumble

[thorny isle]

She is strictly PVE

[gleaming hedge]

which is the only place i suddenly dont know what to do bc i lack dps units built

[obtuse saddle]

?

[plush ocean]

if u don't lattice her S3, rev will be shit
if u don't lattice her S1, her main damage will be subpar
if u don't lattice her S2, she won't S1 enough

[random comet]

Xiada is just waiting for rev to go away bro she'll be a crazy bruiser on law of silence when she gets full stacks and strips on demand or AoEs bro she has unmatched versatility her meta will come dog I promise 5 dupe her

Spend all your money on perm to 5 dupe xiada and get mythic bro

[viral wharf]

Or bust

[gleaming hedge]

look at this simp

[plush ocean]

guys I think this dude is just another ragebaiter

like no way

[thorny isle]

Who can get away with 4 lacctice? Even ditting is all absolutely maxed

[plush ocean]

[gleaming hedge]

did u typo

[random comet]

Diting is an SR who you can max by farting at him

[gleaming hedge]

diting is SR this isnt part of the convo

bruh

[thorny isle]

Sorry error. I meant pve

[viral wharf]

Don’t judge me 😦 I got her before I got diting

[obtuse saddle]

ah ok

[plush ocean]

thank god, I couldn't actually think u can go lower than this

[random comet]

I maxed Diting by accident. I looked away and brushed my fingertips against the long cold barrel of his gun and OOP! he maxed everywhere

[gleaming hedge]

i cant say anything cuz i was spamming perm hoping for xiada during reset event so i could reset massiah

[thorny isle]

So yall massiah and Rosa are just 4 lacctice?

[gleaming hedge]

i dont even use massiahs s2

s1 just for attack

which i dont have and he functions fine

so yeah he could just have s3 and be usable

rosa fking rotation dont work without s3 right?

[plush ocean]

Rosa same case as Yeli, she needs lattice in all

[gleaming hedge]

s2s3 or clunk

[obtuse saddle]

just use proper sr dps

[random comet]

My Massiah is at 8 but that's just because I like him and not because I'm optimizing

[obtuse saddle]

like viktor

[thorny isle]

So why are you saying you only need 4 lacctice on dps ? Rosa needs almost all right?

[plush ocean]

albeit it the last S1 lattice wasn't necessary

but yes Rosa needs lattice in all to truely shine, same as Yeli

[gleaming hedge]

well you said all dps need 8

which like

[thorny isle]

I’m replying to you btw.

[gleaming hedge]

no not really a lot can get away with just 4

[obtuse saddle]

depends on what you want to achieve

[plush ocean]

Kloros can get away with lattice in S3 only

[gleaming hedge]

a bunch of dps you can max 1 skill and move on to come back later

[obtuse saddle]

if u want to just get the weekly wins then sure

[gleaming hedge]

vs units like rosa where its 8 or bench

[random comet]

Idk, I've seen a lot of Rosas in the replays with 4 or even none clearing shit acceptably even if she's obviously not comparable to a fully invested one

[thorny isle]

They do though. Don’t they? Xiada is s2 and s3. Yeli and massaging my option is two skills maxed, Rosa is two skills maxed. The rest I don’t have. So who doesn’t need 8 to really do good damage.

[random comet]

I need some lettuce for my Clorox

[thorny isle]

Khloros doesn’t need?

[gleaming hedge]

you can max xiada s2 and start using her

[plush ocean]

Rosa needs her S3 maxed 1st or Rev rotation will be botched, same as Yeli

[gleaming hedge]

obviously s2s3 will be better

but shes usable

[thorny isle]

Only s2 in inferno? And you’re not getting clapped? 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

How are you playing inferno with your dps only 4 lacctice in?

[gleaming hedge]

bruh when the convo move to inferno? ppl dont start the game trying to clear inferno

also im pretty sure my massiah would be farming doki the same way without the s2 skillups

[thorny isle]

Bruh are talking about beginners

Every till hell 4 is easy!

I’m talking endgame here

[obtuse saddle]

if we talk inferno the rat only needs her s3 for doki

[plush ocean]

well we only need bare minimum teams to clear inferno so it's not that much difference

[obtuse saddle]

shadow sania only needs s1

[gleaming hedge]

so if u wanna focus on inferno theres ratmocha 115 one shots

[thorny isle]

I don’t own rat, but makes sense she is also affinity positive on doki.

[gleaming hedge]

and whatever the hell ssania is doing in terror but thats ssania

[random comet]

Why doesn't he?

[random comet]

my xiada is only max S2 and does inferno fine

[acoustic thistle]

@kek i actually tried and got to 2009

I'm good

[gleaming hedge]

ayyyyyyyy

+15 shards

[thorny isle]

Ayyy let’s not talk dot. Those are cheesing it. 🤣🤣🤣 but seems I might need sania s1 maxed for inferno. Been looking at the clears and wondering if that’s what I’m lacking

[acoustic thistle]

I was just too lazy to put together something lmao

[gleaming hedge]

oh

ur just a silly little guy arent you

[obtuse saddle]

yeah it's a must

[thorny isle]

Damm. Your module and shells must be goated. I respect it.

[obtuse saddle]

I tried before it doesn't work

[gleaming hedge]

do you need help with your account what are you stuck on

[thorny isle]

It is huh? I guess I should just close my eyes and do it!

[random comet]

They're not I'm just fine with 3 minute clears

[thorny isle]

I’m stuck on aurora inferno! And rengoku inferno. Can’t clear

[gleaming hedge]

dont you have rosa

how are you stuck on aurora

[acoustic thistle]

Now i just need to force myself to do the last map of rally and i can get myself a yellow tofu

[gleaming hedge]

rally is so tedious

i still havent done cradle

maybe this week

[thorny isle]

Didn’t build her

Me right now

[gleaming hedge]

have you the klossy

[thorny isle]

I have kloss

[gleaming hedge]

you can at least do the typical lily diting kloss val to finish hyperlink

[thorny isle]

Hhmmm?

[thorny isle]

That doesn’t work for me. My dittin need better build

[gleaming hedge]

back to the mines with you

well

[thorny isle]

Yeah gonna be there this weekend

[gleaming hedge]

unless ur willing to lattice kloss

wait whats wrong with ur aurora

i use diting for that actually

[thorny isle]

I gave kloss two lacctice already

[gleaming hedge]

..i use diting for everything

[thorny isle]

Honestly haven’t really push aurora much. I just know she will clap me

I heard lingluo needs to max s1

[gleaming hedge]

but smite is in there

[thorny isle]

Hmm?

[gleaming hedge]

ive seen clears without the s1 ling for rly fast rosa or rosa+khloros teams

but ling s1 is so good anyway get it

[gleaming hedge]

swiftsmite

gotta go fast

[thorny isle]

Like I said no Rosa no khloros

[gleaming hedge]

ok be a diting gamer like me

viper ling lily diting mia

ig u can use valerian instead of mia

[thorny isle]

No Mia too

😩😩😩

[tame otter]

Is it possible to go swift rush on left side and then any combination of 2 smite 1 raid on right?

[gleaming hedge]

thats the rev build

[thorny isle]

Will build viper soon

[gleaming hedge]

ignore 8 set and 12/6 swift/raid

12/6/6

[tame otter]

Pog so it is possible

[gleaming hedge]

wait you mean like put 2 inferno modules?

no

you can only equip 1 per character

[tame otter]

O

Damn it

[gleaming hedge]

back to shell farming with you

[thorny isle]

12 swift, 6 smite, and 6 what?

[tame otter]

Those bastards

[gleaming hedge]

6 like momentum or something for crit rate

[tame otter]

They can’t keep getting away with it

[thorny isle]

We got to farm more!!

[thorny isle]

Show your dittin for inspiration!

[obtuse saddle]

speaking of farming

does the 2x event have shell farming this time?

[thorny isle]

Nope

I don’t know why shells are not included

[tame otter]

No

[obtuse saddle]

sux

[tame otter]

Cause Fuqiu

[thorny isle]

I’m really fuqiu will replace val in my doki doki farming team

Maybe I will survive more 😩😩😩

[tame otter]

Ngl I like this 2x event

It means I don’t play for the week until 2x

[plush ocean]

I really don't know why would they even choose that name, it literally prounounced "fuck you"

[acoustic thistle]

Is this thread the new inferno thread?

[tame otter]

The Chinese name is Fu Qiu. Idk why they don’t include the space

[plush ocean]

sus

they know

[tame otter]

Nah every Chinese name is like that

Like Xia Da

[obtuse saddle]

reminds me of this

[obtuse saddle]

ok I'm gonna stop

[gleaming hedge]

man one time this actually demotivated someone tho

in chat

[thorny isle]

Me rn! Cause you got 372 crit damage

[woven sage]

feel like they shadownerfed this today

[plush ocean]

sus

[woven sage]

i mean theres literally no point in goin past 3k

even for daily rewards lmao

[plush ocean]

well, technically yes since no one reached triple SSS for max daily reward

[woven sage]

aint nobody give a shit about 50k coins and 2 gold exp books

as much as I think this game mode was released too early or required good min/max on pve units and decent unit comps, all da people who cant hit 3k only lose 15 gold lattice

not the worst

[jade oxide]

I can’t even hit 2k

My middle team is weak

[inland shoal]

double dps

for sharon

is da way

[jade oxide]

I don’t have a third dps

[inland shoal]

uh whats your box

[jade oxide]

My only dps are xiada and diting

Unless I build Liam

Or hoyan

[inland shoal]

hoyan doable i think

1/1/1

[jade oxide]

Was about to max Lilly

I know hoyan needs her s3 for the damage and s2

[inland shoal]

not really

i mean she does decent

no need to min max her

till you get other dps

[jade oxide]

Okay

Can she solo terror

Or do I need to per with diting

I could use her for rally too

[tender peak]

Probably with enough investment but with Diting helps a lot

[jade oxide]

I don’t got the units so what’s the combo

Diting hoyan hein kloss beyotin?

Can’t tell which is stronger Dinah or kloss debuffs