#About the New Hypertalk Released today..

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dim iron
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This is getting ridiculous at this point. The questions that you guys responded to doesn't answer any of the major issues with the game besides one and that's presets added for PvE and PvP. So it's practically now confirmed that we aren't getting presets (at least as of now) which is genuinely questionable for a PvP game. Swapping our modules around from our farming team to our PvP team has become such a chore that some players aren't even doing PvP anymore (at least the casuals) and just don't bother with the mode because swapping around gear sets every time you wanna just do your 5 daily arena tickets is so annoying.

Additionally, there was not ONE response to any of the crucial criticisms to help make the farming grind easier for your player base. No mention of 3 matrix line shell drop rates, no mention of the cost of upgrading shells and modules entirely, no mention of increasing the drops of 3-4 substat mythic module drops or even any resource income like Latices or increase resource drops.

Instead, you guys drop not one but TWO new Animus trailers when the grand majority of the player base doesn't have any latice to fully invest in them, don't have the exp books to level or even the shadow prints to 6* them. Even if you have the summons available to pull, if you don't have the resources to build them it's most likely a skip.

10/10 Hypertalk today guys! You guys are definitely listening to player feedback for sure!

quiet imp
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HYPER TALK - Episode 3 is Live!

// New Animus: Fuqiu, Nahor
// New Gameplay: Dreamscape
// Redeem Code: ETHERIA30D

Following up with tomorrow's ETHERIA MEETUP featuring Game Director Jack, Volkin & Jenazad discussing top community topics! Don't miss out!

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Might hear stuff tomorrow

alpine wren
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nice copium

dreamy anvil
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100% retar.. from this answer , are they actually ever play turn based game , and farming is take almost all time playing daily so they purposely don’t promote us to play PVP at all or RTA while farming on the background

And this game is pvp-based

Thanks , F the players
at this rate no one will believe in this dev team anymore

wispy galleon
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I genuinely want the devs to tell us what exactly they believe to be a reason for pulling on anything in this game is

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considering there's no reason to even bother getting any character you can't build them anyways

wispy galleon
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these devs are clueless

elder escarp
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resource management dv_frogKekOwO

alpine wren
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@stuck portal that will have a huge impact for the game (negative) u ignored the real problems in the talk

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sry for ping but im one of many who get triggered by this hypertalk

wispy galleon
alpine wren
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jsut outspeed

dreamy anvil
wispy galleon
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just have 300 spd lily push up massiah bro it's all good

alpine wren
nimble monolith
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HYPER TALK - Episode 3 is Live!

// New Animus: Fuqiu, Nahor
// New Gameplay: Dreamscape
// Redeem Code: ETHERIA30D

Following up with tomorrow's ETHERIA MEETUP featuring Game Director Jack, Volkin & Jenazad discussing top community topics! Don't miss out!

alpine wren
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and tsukiyo mi missing too

wispy galleon
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it's insane

dim iron
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Beta was so much better

wispy galleon
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I genuinely can't think of a single thing that the launch does better than the beta

dim iron
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Adding more characters 💀

wispy galleon
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more characters nobody can build

abstract iron
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Yay who else is excited to pull a unit we cant build. Soo motivated to pull 😐

soft cypress
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I mean the devs continue to talk about how they value community feedback but consistently ignore everything that’s said

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It’s getting really ridiculous lmao

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R they rage baiting me

dreamy anvil
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“Invaluable”

soft cypress
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I just am confused if they have brains and want their game to succeed or if they just too stupid to have a good thing fix itself

nimble monolith
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HYPER TALK - Episode 3 is Live!

// New Animus: Fuqiu, Nahor
// New Gameplay: Dreamscape
// Redeem Code: ETHERIA30D

Following up with tomorrow's ETHERIA MEETUP featuring Game Director Jack, Volkin & Jenazad discussing top community topics! Don't miss out!

uneven inlet
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It's great to see communication from the devs but yeah

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they really missed the mark on addressing the economy/farming in general

safe lily
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None of the answers provided felt like good answers...
re Revelation = working as designed, figure it out yourselves
re Diting = we're not nerfing him... until probably after RTA season
re gear locking = working as designed

we're already pointing out issues but they refuse to see them as issues at all

red glade
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Deeply disappointed by this video. I can't believe they wouldn't commit to not nerfing Diting

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On top of every other disappointment. It's such an easy win

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It's like they want the game to die

fossil fiber
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Or they're throwing out more flashy whale bait to keep the spenders spending

shell carbon
stone shore
fossil fiber
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Because Victor got nerfed and Diting didnt

shell carbon
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As infuriating and miserable as the drop rates and economy are, having to regear units for RTA is actually such a huge issue

I used to love RTA, now I'm only doing it 2 days a week (tonight and early tomorrow) bc I cannot build 10 units just for that mode every time I want to play it. It's absolutely insane they think that's acceptable

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It's unironically making the PVP unplayable, at least for me (and prob others)

red glade
# stone shore why do we need to nerf diting, exactly? 🤔

It was a feeling in the air when they started dropping "bug fixes" to lessen the universality of other units. In general games don't like having dominant units in such a wide pool of content that lessen the desirability of new banners

stone shore
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how does diting do that, though? he just does one thing, and does it really well.

red glade
stone shore
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like when the next reset rolls around, i'm reseting diting.

red glade
shell carbon
hexed junco
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Was the hyper talk that bad

dim iron
hexed junco
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What happened

shell carbon
dim iron
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They didn't address any important issues lol but supposedly tmr there's like some meeting with Jack? So we'll see how that goes

shell carbon
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I already have some units needing 2-4 sets, this just gets worse as we get more units, more content, more gear

red glade
stone shore
shell carbon
red glade
hexed junco
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Pointed out the easy things?

dim iron
red glade
# hexed junco Wym easy wins

Instead of saying "we won't nerf Diting" they said "no balance changes this season at least!"

Instead of saying "we'll give you separate pvp gear" they said "uhhh get more gear sets"

dim iron
shell carbon
# hexed junco Was the hyper talk that bad

It was just very light on any thing. Out of all the issues raised in the server, they might've addressed one or two ( #1383513147595292722 was " there's great counterplay options and we're so excited to see what the community comes up with" so a very corporate "not doing nothing about that")

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But it's very clear the majority of convos here aren't even worthy of acknowledgement in those talks, which is wild

hexed junco
hexed junco
shell carbon
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The only hope for improvement is clearly to get CCs to call stuff out. That's 100% the only feedback they take

hexed junco
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The better drop would be a massive w if it does get solved

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And the lattices

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Are they releasing new units?

dim iron
hexed junco
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Yeah wtf

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What do they do

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My Freind said they ass

red glade
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They both look fine

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One is a def breaker and freeze combo unit with a single target strip s2

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The other is a sustain/speed buffer with anothe unique buff that heals and advances turn meter when units get hit

hexed junco
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Not bad

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What type

red glade
hexed junco
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Blue is ehh no good in terror and boss immune to freeze in auora

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The green could work in terror and doki doki

red glade
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Not all that fast either

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She should be great in Doki yeah

hexed junco
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Tbh terror needs help

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Doki Doki is ez

red glade
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Yeah it's a little weird

fierce radish
hexed junco
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We do need more speed buffers

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Feels like Lilly is overrated like she can be replaced

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The speed is essential on every team

slate sentinel
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Doesnt even matter you can't build new units anyway

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You cant experiment invest into skills you Play weird half baked versions of the characters with 1 skill maxed max

hexed junco
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?

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This gacha game isn’t normal

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It’s unique for sure not in the great way

slate sentinel
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Yeah i mean the main monetization is aquiring new characters but you fant build new chars ;____;

fossil fiber
slate sentinel
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I am so frustrated with the lack of skill up materials

hexed junco
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Have you tried buying out the shop.

hexed junco
fossil fiber
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just spend money lmao

hexed junco
slate sentinel
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XD

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I can unironically whale for characters but i wont buy attificial skill up materials

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And have done so already with the charas

fossil fiber
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But in this game those skill ups power you up more than dupes

hexed junco
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It’s sad for a unit to perform you need skill ups

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Perform? Mb I mean be viable

elder stump
tight minnow
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The point of this hyper talk was to release the code!!! 1nekopopcorn_kitty

hexed junco
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hexed junco
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are they really that mid

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hexed junco
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The guy seems mid af

acoustic vine
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Fuqiu is cute so I'm not sure but she should be good in bruiser teams. I'm just not.comvinced she'll be good in PvE but well see

hexed junco
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I suppose the girl seems cool but isn’t a must summon and not that great

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Fuqiu could be used in doki doki but I doubt you wanna use her over Valarian you most likely have build

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hexed junco
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She heals speed buff turn meter rng

hexed junco
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Incredible

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A mix of chiaki the echo and valarian and linguo in 1

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hexed junco
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Bro why is her base speed 119 even Dinah a sr has more speed she isn’t even a speed buffer like what

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Dang we need a better sustain for auora

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hexed junco
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With Val you just need her s3 max and barely needs any investment to work

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The turn meter is gonna ruin your rotation

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hexed junco
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A full buff team so it can’t ruin your rotation

novel wagon
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We allow gear swapping but we make it a pain in an ass for balancing reason, design team lul, why muh playerbase dying PepeCRY

tight jacinth
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What a clowntalk by devs 🤡

solar pivot
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Imagine competing with layers and layers of RNG for devs to casually say "You'll need to manage these resource carefully."

MF THERE'S NO RESOURCE TO MANAGE. WE'RE ALWAYS BROKE.

don't even get me started on the shell reconfigures.. been throwing 1k crystals regularly to get horrible rerolls.

barren hawk
alpine wren
elder stump
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that's right

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sounds funny

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who push atb depush atb

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I would say its a normal use on support if I had no clue how to nerf it without making people quitting the game cause they spent 4M per shell

alpine wren
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yeah

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nimble monolith
# hexed junco Was the hyper talk that bad

HYPER TALK - Episode 3 is Live!

// New Animus: Fuqiu, Nahor
// New Gameplay: Dreamscape
// Redeem Code: ETHERIA30D

Following up with tomorrow's ETHERIA MEETUP featuring Game Director Jack, Volkin & Jenazad discussing top community topics! Don't miss out!

hexed junco
robust magnet
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On top of that for some reason they changed you being able to choose which exp books you used now you forced to use your orange books first

nimble monolith
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anybody else hyped for the devtalk 🙂

split steeple
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Honestly i just need training data n coin n more materials n more tofu...new pve mode n units in hypertalk cant excite me when too poor to build anything

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Dev cant tempt me to pull new units when he will likely sit there and be bench for a long time

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Dev need to do something to game economy for players to be excited for new unit announcement

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Back in other game like hsr, I usually prefarm everything and be ready for my new unit waiting for her banner and pull...now is like a joke...my current team still missing tons of stuff and sharing gear

gleaming scarab
stone shore
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tbh, i need more reconfig chips, not training data.

shell carbon
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Are you not selling shells? Like tons of them?

stone shore
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i pretty much sell all of them, but some 3/3/3 combos i want.

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it's probably because i'm not upgrading shells

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i'm just rerolling for passives.

fierce radish
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reconfig chips are way more of an issue than training data imo

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if ppl have 3k+ it just means they either 1 tap their reds or just dont reroll and settle on purpels

stone shore
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^ this.

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idk why there's rng with reconfig chips.

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just give us the max amount.

rotund granite
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they did mention 1 thing, diting will be nerf starting next season!

red glade
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Someone in their communication chain prioritized leaving their options open instead of committing to the easy win of saying they won't nerf a strong PvE DPS option during a time when most of the playerbase is struggling with PvE. That person should not be allowed to make decisions anymore lmao

stone shore
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nerfing diting is dumb, but, i just want to see them nerf him just to see the fallout. it'll be hilarious.

shell carbon
# red glade Someone in their communication chain prioritized leaving their options open inst...

That, and it was also a really odd thing to focus on (esp with how little they actually talked about)

People talked about diting being in danger on like days 2-4 of release, bc we just saw several good SRs and an R get nerfed

Nobody at all has been talking about diting getting nerfed in weeks, since we've all moved on to new issues that have become apparent

They ignore all these new complaints, and choose to bring up something that people would hate, which is also a thing not on people's minds anymore. Well, it wasn't on people's minds till the talk dv_frogKekOwO

fierce radish
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they just said he aint getting nerfed this season :p

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no one getting nerfed for next 70 days

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there will be like 4 new characters next season

shell carbon
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I'm not even pulling anymore. I have so many good units I won't be able to use for months and months

red glade
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I might pull the green girl for aesthetics but I'll hate myself for it frog_drink

stone shore
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i'm 100% pulling for aesthetics and vibes.

coral dagger
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If diting gets nerfed my content farming is cooked

red glade
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Now I'm no longer sure

wispy galleon
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so where is that video we were promised

red glade
soft cypress
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Remember guys our voices and feedback are “Invaluable” for the dev team

shell carbon
soft cypress
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Yeah lmao must be

fringe crag
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yeah hypertalk was extremely empty

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we need them to just be straight up about the problems in the game

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they're not letting us know that they understand the current problems of the game

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it's impossible to have faith in them

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we have to pray that they randomly drop a patch addressing resource income issues

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and that's not ok

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they need to cook in this jack, Volkin podcast

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we shoud have in the next 6 hours

fringe crag
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this podcast is a make or break with them being honest with us

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a talk between jackz / seanb / volkin

fringe crag
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I'm pretty excited for it

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Im not sure you should

fringe crag
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cause I think this podcast has the highest chance of actually addressing the current issues with the game

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cause if volkin or seanb are telling them what's wrong it mean they don't know yet

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if they don't know yet , they didnt work yet right ? so its mean we can still wait 3 weeks or even a month before having anything change

fringe crag
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I'm pretty sure they know what's wrong with the game

fierce radish
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what times the podcast

fringe crag
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everyone has been grilling them for 2 weeks straight on these issues

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the question with the podcast is if they address it or not

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its usually the time we get the news

fringe crag
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and if they give us any info on changes coming

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they have to change too much things ngl

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pve farming stage difficulty

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shell and coin economy

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pvp / pve gear snapshot

fringe crag
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the hypertalk soft confirming that pvp gear snapshotting isn't coming is a massive L

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it make no sense for a pvp gacha to do that

fringe crag
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like we need to have pvp and pve gear separation

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fr

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cause their pve is too hard

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to do the farm with same gear as pvp

fringe crag
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yeah

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I doubt my lingluo bulwark gigabyte gonna work in inferno aurora

fringe crag
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you cannot do PvE and PvP at the same time

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and it sucks

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meanwhile timeweave supernova will work

fringe crag
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makes PvP such a chore for me

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so it make no sense you can't do both at same time

fringe crag
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welp now we wait and see what they have to say in the podcast

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seanB was on live this morning

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and Idk his answer

jolly summit
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podcast : manage your damn ressources players

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seem like he was dodging

fringe crag
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mmm that's concerning

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we've been playing the game wrongly

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🤡

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pale phoenix
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Podcast prediction : "We hear your concerns, we will do our best to do nothing about it 2 months from now. Here is an advertisement for our pvp tournament. Have a nice day".

wispy galleon
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I expect a whole bunch of nothing PR answers

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"we understand your concerns we will work on it"

soft cypress
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I expect them to say no changed can be made till after the RTA season

shell carbon
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But would love to be wrong

fierce radish
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any podcast yet

split steeple
stark marsh
split steeple
pale phoenix
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Well, was I right or was I right?

eternal sentinel
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Do you mean that it’s been over 24 hours and the second video still hasn’t been released because they probably realised that they were just going to get more backlash for the video kek

pale phoenix
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Its released

eternal sentinel
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Yikes okay

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Time to watch and be disappointed

pale phoenix
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All they said is eventually gear sets, yellow drop shells are staying, and they expect events to fix the economy at some point

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No inferno changes or any balancing

pale phoenix
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They literally were as vague as possible

eternal sentinel
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Lmfao

eternal sentinel
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But does it really matter though kek

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If all they are saying is that they aren’t changing anything

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eternal sentinel
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Definitely a step in the right direction

unreal arch
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shell pity is the only pain point being addressed, they more or less have said etheria coin income is how they want it

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qol is coming but it's still only like half stopgaps relative to what people have asked for

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they said other games currency is too frequent so they want it to not feel useless, though they're going in the opposite direction and making it too scarce by design

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we're supposed to get more etheria coin from events going forward and they've addressed a lot of casual folks can't do enough of an event (or some events just straight up don't let you clean out the shop since you want lattice or prints over coins)

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but .. even then, the event shop gives you enough coins for like 1 piece so lol

eternal sentinel
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I don’t think the economy will be an issue like 6 months into the game

unreal arch
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I actually agree that too much coins would be a problem but

eternal sentinel
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I think it’s only really an issue now

unreal arch
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yeah eventually it won't be

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but the problem is will that stave off enough people to keep the population healthy

eternal sentinel
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I think the system they have right now will be fine in the future

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It’s just a feels bad atm

unreal arch
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yeah the problem is it's a balancing act

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because there's a lot of folks who won't stick around for that

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and if that's enough people to make the game feel like shit systems-wise

eternal sentinel
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Yeah absolutely

unreal arch
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then that's a problem also

eternal sentinel
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Yeah agreed

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Definitely a hard line to walk

abstract iron
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Did seanb really say he personally doesnt have a problem with skill ups/lattice? Why water it down? Meat Gobbler detected.

split steeple
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Actually if u played other games in the past like summoner war...the amount of skill up in here isnt the worst

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U get like 6 as f2p a month

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Excluding ember track hard n events

abstract iron
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Okay and?

split steeple
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It is more like too many free pulls they give at start and all of us have too many units to build

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So feel lack of lattice

slate sentinel
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An argument a game 8 Years ago did worse doesnt fix anything

split steeple
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Most game dont give u 500pulls as f2p to start

abstract iron
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split steeple
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I think it has other problem worst than lattice

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Like lack of coins

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I got no coin for anything lmao

abstract iron
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?

split steeple
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Well u can suggest n see, dev wan to sell lattice at usd...🤡

abstract iron
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I understand that.

split steeple
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So wan f2p to collect enough to max everything monthly? N what is lattice worth in usd? Zero?

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Now is max 1 unit every 2 month pace excluding event...if max 1 unit a month maybe better?

abstract iron
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No point in pulling units if you cant skill up.

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We need more lattice

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Or we wont spend/pull

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Very simple.

split steeple
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Honestly i got enough pulls tickets save to not spend n pull

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N here no 50/50

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So far I buy to refresh n get lattice

slate sentinel
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I have writtten in another thread i have spent a lot of money already on characters and packs but wont pay anything because j cant build new units anyway

split steeple
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N dupe in this game isnt really impactful

slate sentinel
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They literally are losing customers like me and i AM not Alone in this

abstract iron
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I want to spend but i keep hearing its not worth it since you cant skill up.

split steeple
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Actually i dont mind they give more lattice n reduce pull income

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They just need to create artificial scarcity

split steeple
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Now they limit lattice n give too much pull

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N seem wan to u spend to get more lattice

abstract iron
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Im already satisfied with my little roaster of units. I just want more lattic e🌸

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eternal dawn
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Maybe if they give free reset monthly like for x times lattice wont much an issue

split steeple
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Actually i might be the odd one but maybe cos I dont focus on pvp yet...I feel like focusing just on pve I got ok pace for progression and ok amount of lattice

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split steeple
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Only plan to build 1 more unit, ling lou skill 1 and I am done

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No need lattice for any other pve mode

nimble monolith
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Very pog talk

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Thumbs up

split steeple
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But this game advertise itself as pvp game so well

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U attracted the crowd for pvp now it feels bad playing pvp now

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Cos unit all half ass built

hexed junco
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Was there a new hyper talk

split steeple
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Actually for pve I think I finish building all my ssr units once I finish ember track normal this round...no need new yellow lattice for current pve

hexed junco
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I’m jealous what ssr you got

split steeple
hexed junco
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Yeah

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If it’s ssania nvm

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Don’t talk to me lol jkjkjk

split steeple
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I got all ld execpt doki doki

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But no kloss, no xiada, no ross

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So still had a hard time in pve till got yeli

hexed junco
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How you do terror

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And who your auora team then

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Yeli as dps?

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Nvm you dot the guy

split steeple
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Aurora- yeli, viper, val, ling lou, lily

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Terror ya dot is easier on auto

hexed junco
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Basically the generalized units

nimble monolith
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My aurora team is diting doki linglou viper tsuki kek

split steeple
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But honestly the issues now is no resource to build random unit to try clearing content

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U likely just copy whatever tested and proven to work

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If resources r in abundance likely more different team comp to clear

opaque agate
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Was this thread created before the most recent talk with seanb and volkin?

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Cuz i read the beginning info and either players are delusional or this is outdated

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LOL

dim iron
opaque agate
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oh ok two separate things

dim iron
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Yes pretty much

fierce radish
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@barren hawk any news on increasing level cap? we want our +100 staminas