revelation cheese in RTA is killing the game

[rotund mason]

Bro what bro what bro what

[inland saddle]

Its like lingluo, dinah, rc77, 2 fodder red R girls

[rotund mason]

That stun was insanely bullshit

[high kettle]

The xiada stage was more annoying for me

[inland saddle]

Rc77 on 300+ speed does aoe and big dmg thats all

[inland saddle]

Yeah it was

[zinc bone]

Doki cleansed the stun immediately every time and I missed maybe 1 turn every 25-30 stuns with bad luck

[inland saddle]

Cant pushback so just had to put xiada team and go afk for 5 min

[high kettle]

Killing it without rev or ssania was 💀

[inland saddle]

Bless xiada

[rotund mason]

Lucky doki users

[rotund mason]

🙏

[zinc bone]

The problem with 22 hard Lilith is you have to take the destroy hp card which never lets you clear the poison

It puts the stage on a timer

[inland saddle]

Xiada unironically best overall investment to clear ember trek/aurora/doki all at once with 1 unit. Dont even need skillups u can get aeay with 1/3/1 or smth. My last ember trek she was 1/3/1 bcs no lattice

[rotund mason]

Yeah but

[inland saddle]

Nah lingluo supernova heals too much u insta full heal whole team

[rotund mason]

1/3/1 is crazy

[inland saddle]

Supernova is not balanced with interaction lingluo has

[rotund mason]

What interaction

[high kettle]

I didn’t take that one

[rotund mason]

Hear me out

Fuqiu + fortissimo

[zinc bone]

Full healing destroyed HP doesn't count as full healing for the poison clear condition (or Vice's overheal)

[zinc bone]

Oh I can't take the counterattack one

[high kettle]

If you cc them they don’t counter attack

[inland saddle]

Its just xiada being 4 hit aoe 😭 she had garbage gear like +30 rev shell bcs i was broke, doesnt matter if u have xiada and just tank the hits she clears over time. Lily makes it 2x as fast with her resets

[high kettle]

Pretty sure

[zinc bone]

I can't cc them

[rotund mason]

Ok i don't want to reset xiada anymore

[inland saddle]

Lingluo heals based on max hp of units supernova and cure p much double it u end up healing close to 100% max hp with s3

[high kettle]

Xiada is op efficiency with buff steal def down and good rev user

[rotund mason]

You know what the problem is

Xiada in pvp is 🥀

While yeli is the goat

[harsh wraith]

i was awkwardly sitting around with only 2 dps raised cuz i dont technically need anything new for pve between massiah and diting

[inland saddle]

I was against rev bcs its braindead then friend made me try xiada and i was fuming abt it how stupid game is without rev like why can lvl 45 5*xiada no lattice no shell maxed with healing increase shell slot clear stuff easier than fully invested teams with no rev

[harsh wraith]

im still looking at this yeli banner like hmmmm but what a waste but make life easy but expensive??

[rotund mason]

I knoww

[high kettle]

Rev was a mistake

[rotund mason]

Rev is busted no just in pvp but also in pve

There is no room for other shells

[harsh wraith]

hey im not a rev abuser (yet)

[rotund mason]

Just white fang for diting

But because diting is busted

And can't abuse rev

[inland saddle]

How trying rev in pve after days of suffering for first time feels

Legit cleared all pve including aurora 100% winrate with 5* 1/3/1 xiada

But it ok rev is balanced as devs say

[high kettle]

Stupid it ignores all dr mechs as well

[zinc bone]

"I build wall like Bob the Builder" could be a line in a $3 million rap song

[rotund mason]

This is the kind of people defending revelation 😭 they just enjoy the game way more than us

[zinc bone]

You can take pve rev from my cold dead hands but my zombie ass will fuck you up trying

[inland saddle]

No but like legit why do i struggle using fully invested speed tunned team then i put unlvled rev shell on xiada with no skillups, protect the president comp and win where game balance

[rotund mason]

Max skill her

She deserves it

[inland saddle]

Pve is legit rev or dot if u dont do either idk apparently u are massochist, bcs if u do try it once u never go back

[rotund mason]

Or diting

[inland saddle]

I still refuse to be rev player in pvp bcs its disgusting

[high kettle]

Diting in hard tower still kinda crazy slow depending on stage

[inland saddle]

Yh or diting but atm its yeli replacing him everywhere, if u have diting u unironically dont need yeli for pve

[rotund mason]

Thats masochism

[inland saddle]

Diting solos all bosses with vice on ember trek aside astarte

No rng no brain u just win

[rotund mason]

I was refusing too hard to build diting

[inland saddle]

Mob stages if u dont have dot are harder than bosses

[rotund mason]

But i couldnt anymore

That was one of my main reasons to go for yeli

[inland saddle]

I legit suffered on like last 2 mob fight stages last ember trek and last 2 bosses i just no brain

[rotund mason]

No fucking wau

Way

Don't scare me

I need to do them

[high kettle]

Xiada stage is a menace let me tell you

[rotund mason]

Chill bro 😭

[inland saddle]

Rengokutsu boss in hard ember trek(end game btw)? Looney toons char. Rengokutsu inferno (farming stage to clear end game btw)? Final boss from dark souls 4 that isnt released yet

[rotund mason]

I need confidence

[rotund mason]

How the fuck does people kill that dude i don't get it

My diting can't

And why the fuck is he random silencing for two turns what

[inland saddle]

Its fine u got lilith ull never have issues with ember trek with xiada 3 core and lilith even that xiada stage for example u can just perma control xiada with lilith to never get a turn

[rotund mason]

I hope 🙏

[inland saddle]

Its not reliable his whole gimmic is random bullshit go if he does bad element swap u just lose

[rotund mason]

She needs to work, she ate too much of my resources and is not working to help us

[rotund mason]

And gonna build a vice sania fuqiu team and kill the fucking ads and take 10 mins

But i'm gonna kill him

[inland saddle]

Both sharon and rengo need heavy nerfs on inferno, horrible designs. Those same bosses in end game modes feel like tutorial intro to the boss itself and then u go inferno and u just fight speed, hp, dmg, unit check while fighting rng mechanics on top

[rotund mason]

Sharon seems so easy tho

[high kettle]

Kinda easy but any fights with rng dispel kind of annoying

[inland saddle]

Vice is cheap af u just 5* him he can be lvl 1. His skills are cheap to max gp wise u just 5/5/5 him and borrow him a set with 2z eff hit and speed and an artisian if u have if not it ok he works on all

[rotund mason]

Yeaa he is my project

[inland saddle]

This is the issue tbh, getting rng immunity removal is toxic af. In theory u could go buffer + 3 codex dps and one shot her

[rotund mason]

This x2 im gonna build a lot of terrormaton

[zinc bone]

I 6* him and bring him as a main healer

[rotund mason]

Wellspring and cure for everyone

[zinc bone]

It works often

[rotund mason]

Farm

[inland saddle]

Why u need those, very underwhelming usage for both

[rotund mason]

My heart is just telling me to build a full hp celince fuqiu valerian and sania for pvp

My heart is so wrong

[inland saddle]

Wellspring only for valerian ig, cure can be used for supernova pve lingluo but thats all generally both sets little to no use aside pve and u dont even need them to clear pve

[rotund mason]

I know is not working

[inland saddle]

Bloodbath fuqiu and val for pvp much better

[rotund mason]

Im theorycrafting

Because i don't know if fuqiu needs strive

[inland saddle]

U can go bloodbath cure or bloodbath bulwark on fuqiu with supernova

Supernova should be able to proc on her passive heal

Free 15% heal on top

[rotund mason]

Mmmm that would be crazy

That would be crazy crazy

But i don't think that works that way

[inland saddle]

23% heal every turn u get hit + push

Lighthouse suddenly doesnt look broken

[rotund mason]

Let me see something

[inland saddle]

U can proc supernova healing from bramble hits that heal so surely u will too from healing done by a skill

[rotund mason]

Ok i dont think supernova is working on her

[inland saddle]

And with her being slow u can just have supernova which is undispellable for a long while

[rotund mason]

Is not working off her passive you need to take action

[inland saddle]

Yeah but u go speed on her with bloodbath bulwark evol

Speed subs/speed shell

Should hit +120-140 speed

Which imo is enough for a opener in bruiser teams

[rotund mason]

Yea but you think if she gets a turn and proc supernova then all of her passive healing are gonna have the healing effect?

[inland saddle]

Ye

And evol will boost her passive healing too

[rotund mason]

That would be the most broken thing a human have ever seen

I'm gonna test when she is out

I don't think is gonna work that way

[inland saddle]

37% healing inc from the 2,+ supernova HoT spam

[inland saddle]

It should imo its fair bcs i dont think u can stack HoT to heal more than once per turn no?

So u only get it once every turn it happens that u get hit

[rotund mason]

Mmm i don't know but even if You cant

Everytime the enemy hits you

[rotund mason]

You gonna heal for 12 + a hot?

[inland saddle]

But healing inc from nova and good shell matrixes enable it

[rotund mason]

And empowered heal on top of that?

[inland saddle]

Whats her healing again? 12%?

[rotund mason]

Yea

When you get hit she heals you 12%

[inland saddle]

So u healing 18% hp from healing incs

So 33%~ with HoT in count

• turn bar boost

[rotund mason]

That would be absurd

[inland saddle]

It is thats why i told u like an hour or so ago that she will be very popular

She is supposed counter to rev

[rotund mason]

Na but

There isnt any other unit that heals passive like her?

To try

[inland saddle]

Supernova healing inc is p much passive once she activates it its 2 turn undispellable buff

No reason for it to not work

[rotund mason]

Its just gonna be too much

Like it's over

If she works that way

[inland saddle]

Sania heals with passive ig but not passively and yes supernoca works on it, lingluo whale prayers and even hot get amplified from nova buff

[rotund mason]

Yea but i mean a heal without taking action

[inland saddle]

[rotund mason]

Lingluo whale prayers can hot you?

That would be the thing

[inland saddle]

Yes they can if u low on hp u get heal from whale prayer and if possible u get hot that instatnly gets consumed

[rotund mason]

What the helly

I need to try that

[inland saddle]

Thats why i said lingluo with supernova gigadumb for pve, aurora goes from hard to cartoon boss with lingluo on supernova even more so if s1 of ling maxed

[rotund mason]

What the fuck

Bro

[inland saddle]

Sec

[rotund mason]

Im excited now for fuqiu supernova

😭

I was

Like

Theorycrafting this days for a fuqiu shell

But is over if supernova works like that

[inland saddle]

Nvm cant find it

[harsh wraith]

wait what

[inland saddle]

I had on one of stages in current ember trek

[harsh wraith]

do i need to stop being a superhova hater

the whale prayer proc can trigger supernova? whattt

[inland saddle]

10 stacks (max of current debuff)on lily

And she never died or got it removed

Bcs supernova ling was solo healing her perma

[inland saddle]

Ys u randomly get 30%+ max hp off it

[rotund mason]

What 😭

Why does the hot get consumed immediatly?

[inland saddle]

1 whale prayer heals u to full if u at 65% of hp

[harsh wraith]

thats hilarious

[inland saddle]

Bcs whale prayer triggers at start of action and so does hot

[harsh wraith]

i go farm sharon to upgrade this supernova

[rotund mason]

This game bugs are so random

[harsh wraith]

wait does it only work on herself

or teammates can just proc it randomly

[inland saddle]

Wym

[harsh wraith]

the timing

[inland saddle]

Supernova says if u heal a unit below 75% max hp u give them hot

Any healing done while below 75% will give hot

[rotund mason]

So wellspring bulwark supernova fuqiu?

Or

[inland saddle]

It also enables ling in aurora to remove debuff turn 1 with ult

Bcs u heal like 80% max hp

[harsh wraith]

is that

[rotund mason]

Damn but she is not moving

[harsh wraith]

only on the turn supernova procs

or a static effect

i never watched for this on runs

[inland saddle]

Only on turn supernova procs bcs healing inc+hot

[harsh wraith]

mehhh

well anyway ur basically forced to have supernova cuz of aurora anyway

[inland saddle]

If u have s1 maxed on ling and nova its p much any ult iirc

[rotund mason]

I have 🥀

[harsh wraith]

idk if cure+evolguard+shell2 is enough to wipe the curse

[inland saddle]

I habe speed/cure no 6p

She wipes with s3 instantly

[harsh wraith]

i think the curse is about 60% of units hp

[rotund mason]

My temu lingluo cant

[harsh wraith]

i mean

without supernova

a diff shell with just cure+evol+shell heal

[inland saddle]

Not sure u can

Prob can with s1 s3 maxed tho

[harsh wraith]

oh true

[high kettle]

Also isn’t evol not working currently

[harsh wraith]

with s3 skillup for sure

[rotund mason]

Thats what people saying

I need to see the evidence

[inland saddle]

Never tested it so no clue if it works

[harsh wraith]

maybe i could test it

[inland saddle]

I never built a shell with it

Since i prefer other effects usually

Healing in general not that useful even in pvp u dont pick healers to heal

[rotund mason]

Lmao i just saw the evidence

And i know why that happens

Game have a real real huge Game breaking bug going right now

[harsh wraith]

oh i dont need to test

why does it happen?

[rotund mason]

Basically

[harsh wraith]

big typing

[rotund mason]

You can use whatever modules you want in any unit you want like

[harsh wraith]

#seated

[rotund mason]

The same for lily

The same for freya

[harsh wraith]

huhhhhh

[rotund mason]

The same for anyone

Yea

[harsh wraith]

are we pokemon cloning our gear

what goes on

[rotund mason]

Yeaaaa

Its crazy

[inland saddle]

[rotund mason]

I gotta say

I don't want to get banned

[harsh wraith]

wait

[inland saddle]

Ngl i just have fun, bug abusing sucks never will do it

[harsh wraith]

i think i saw a post about this bug last night

ohhhhhhhh i remember

[rotund mason]

That bug

And when the dude unloaded the lingluo module he really didnt

Thats why it shows the same healing and he thinks it doesnt work

[harsh wraith]

he had a video of it

proving the bug

[rotund mason]

Yea it's crazy

I gotta say

I gotta say

And still failed

[harsh wraith]

[inland saddle]

[harsh wraith]

i used the last of my monies to scuff together a 3rd dps for cage last night

i couldnt make up my mind about a ssr dps so i built rin

[inland saddle]

Ngl getting 3k on cage is just unit check u dont even need inferno gear or anything

[rotund mason]

Real

[harsh wraith]

we scraped 2k pts i feel too lazy to go back in

[inland saddle]

Dont even need proper lvled gear for it

[harsh wraith]

im totally broke on exp and shadowprints and coins

[rotund mason]

Bro i got 2445

[harsh wraith]

i have literally nothing left rn

[rotund mason]

Aimg no way

I'm gonna 6 syar khloros

But i can't miss the sr thing

[harsh wraith]

and half of a units gear was all lvl 1 just matrix filler

[inland saddle]

1/1/1 khloros enough for sharon side

Lvl 45 5*

[harsh wraith]

i dont have khlorosssssss

or exp!

[rotund mason]

He aint even that good 😭

[inland saddle]

Yeah i said unit check

[harsh wraith]

i have rosa but shes untouched

i was thinking about investing her or pulling yeli and investing that

in the end i chose not to do either

[rotund mason]

Fucking xiada is holding me back in that event

[inland saddle]

Rosa/heinrich/lily/khloros/tsuki/yeli/kloss

[rotund mason]

With his whole ass animations every turn

[inland saddle]

P much chars u need to clear it with least investment

Rest are SR

[harsh wraith]

this is what i ended up scuffing together

a good 5+ of these units got some random lvl up just for this

[rotund mason]

Gang

Im i the goat

[harsh wraith]

and completely random half leveled gear

[inland saddle]

T1 and t3 should have some swap done if u want higher score

[rotund mason]

6 stars borgne 🥀

[inland saddle]

Well t2 too messiah is garbo vs bosses

[harsh wraith]

ill try it later i wanted to get something in before bed last night

before i just procrastinate too long on this event entirely

[inland saddle]

Fungus>messiah vs bosses (immune to dot bossea too)

[harsh wraith]

its already almost over lmao

[rotund mason]

1 day more to get it

[harsh wraith]

oh really even when boss is immune??

im using messiah bc i literally only have dps wise

diting messiah borgne and now rin

[rotund mason]

Borgne might be even worse than messiah 😭

[harsh wraith]

exactly

im coping

[inland saddle]

5*lvl 45 fungus with 5/5/1 will outperforms messiah on any boss but aurora/purple union boss

[harsh wraith]

alright lemme try swapping t1 and t3 and binning messi

[inland saddle]

Its just interaction of giving fungus lots of stats and count u trest him as u would khloros and let him follow up with momentum for 80k follow ups

[harsh wraith]

theyre still mostly wearing the scuff from last night anyway

[inland saddle]

If immune to debuffs then onslaught

[harsh wraith]

so i'd be just building him crit like a normal dps

[inland saddle]

Keeneye is garbage sadly that set needs a buff

[rotund mason]

Whatt

[harsh wraith]

you want keeneye if you are diting and everyone else is on rev and multi hit doesnt like keeneye right

[orchid mist]

I’m garbage I need a buff

[inland saddle]

It doesnt work on turns that arent the holders which ends up in keeneye always being worse than onslaught even, if u are ussing like lily for follow ups or a follow up unit

[rotund mason]

Momentum it's better if youre with 6 debuffs

But thats a lot

Keeneye better overall

[inland saddle]

Even hoyan who is yk st nuke revenge, keeneye doesnt work on it u dont get 25% dmg buff on revenge ult

Which is jsut cringe

[harsh wraith]

wait why doesnt keeneye work out of turn thats

dumb

[rotund mason]

Ok but thats Lily being broken 🥀

[inland saddle]

It specifies on your turn

[harsh wraith]

oh

all these 12pc red options suck

[inland saddle]

Yeah so like fungus follow up dps wont get buffed by keeneye for example

[rotund mason]

Its dps fangus really an option?

I'm about to swap holden for him

Or yeli

[inland saddle]

Onslaught is just overall best dps set atm, momentum is good if u can maintain huge amoubt of debuffs but even then onslaught vs big fat fks is better if u are using rev dps

[rotund mason]

🥀

I farm a lot of momentums white fang

[inland saddle]

I do pocket pick him in pvp sometimes with count and momentum gear from ril, since i never draft ril he wins games

[rotund mason]

Don't make me regret

[harsh wraith]

i wanted to move my diting from momentum+harvest+edge into keeneye fury but uh

hm

[rotund mason]

Ril

Why you have that rat if you have xiada

[rotund mason]

Thats exactly my diting

Because i couldnt get momentum fury

[harsh wraith]

momentum > onslaught on rev just bc

+12 crit for the cheese

12 swift + raid +6 moment

[inland saddle]

I had her before xiada bcs in beta she was goated, but now that we are playing etheria revelation and i tried xiada im just waiting for a reset event

My xiada with crappy gear has 100% winrate both doki and aurora

[harsh wraith]

i kept rolling during reset event hoping for 2 things

kloss and xiada

so i could reset gray and massiah

[rotund mason]

Gray

[harsh wraith]

i hit the kloss on the last hour

[rotund mason]

Lmao

[harsh wraith]

and im stuck on messi

[inland saddle]

Ril can go 10/0 or 3/7 bcs debuffs are cringe abd unfun while revelation is fair and balanced and takes very much skill to use

[rotund mason]

Agree

[harsh wraith]

i didnt have shit day 1 man i didnt get lily until later

i was using chiaki echo for a week

no freya either

[rotund mason]

Meeee

[inland saddle]

Imagine perfectly speed tunning ril team just to not have even consistent 90% winrate then some donkey with uninvested xiada on random bs go team clears 100% of time but 1 min slower

[rotund mason]

I have like 9 jellies in chiaki

[rotund mason]

🥀

[harsh wraith]

i did manage to reset chiaki in the first week reset event

might build her again anyway

[orchid mist]

[rotund mason]

I didnt because i thought she was the goat

And i reset valerian

Then i had to build valerian again

[harsh wraith]

well i had like no resources and just pulled freya so

[inland saddle]

She is good, well no SR is truly bad aside oboro she is dogwater

[rotund mason]

I reset ditting too

[inland saddle]

[rotund mason]

And had to build diting again too

[harsh wraith]

just tossed her exp and prints into freya for the upgrade

[orchid mist]

[harsh wraith]

who tf reset diting before yeli exist at minimum

[rotund mason]

Me because he was ass

Without lily

[orchid mist]

My diting got reset

[harsh wraith]

doki has like 5 layers of rng

[rotund mason]

Then i got lily

[harsh wraith]

its like the easiest but

maybe the sussiest

[inland saddle]

Idk even if i get 4/5/5 yeli and i will bcs i like her design, i wont reset diting

He was goating too much to be reseted

[harsh wraith]

this game ask you to have a lot of units

[orchid mist]

I’m a Rosa enjoyer

[harsh wraith]

diting will still be useful

[orchid mist]

Didn’t need diting

[inland saddle]

He deserves those lattices forever

[harsh wraith]

diting my goat

[rotund mason]

I resetted My dokidoki too

[inland saddle]

Never pulled her #1 unit i wanted since beta i still have tsrget banner

[harsh wraith]

he carried me thru most things massiah is litereally just there to s3

[inland saddle]

[rotund mason]

For some reason i throw 7 jellies at her like 2 weeks in

[orchid mist]

I wouldn’t recommend pulling her now tho

[inland saddle]

But im missing like

9 ssr

So cant pick rosa

[orchid mist]

ayo

[inland saddle]

And p big ones

[orchid mist]

Lilith?

[harsh wraith]

im in the same boat

missing about 9 and sitting on selector still

[rotund mason]

Celince?

[orchid mist]

I spent for all

[harsh wraith]

im missing celince and rahu (who is a unit i just want even if i dont use)

[orchid mist]

[rotund mason]

Hear me out

Celince

[harsh wraith]

so once i pull one i can target the other and ignore the rest im missing

[inland saddle]

Like helkid/mia/khloros/rosa/celince/rahu/mio

[rotund mason]

You don't need rahu

[rotund mason]

Celince

[harsh wraith]

so celince is the reason i havent targetted rahu

[orchid mist]

Meh you can live without Khloros

[harsh wraith]

i dont want to not have celince on my account

[rotund mason]

Rahu is ahh i have him builded

[inland saddle]

Oh right 7 now i got shadow sania when i didnt need her, still built her bcs i dont wanna waste time doing ember trek/ethernet again on mob stages. 1 min runs go brrrr

[rotund mason]

He sells my games on purpose 90% of the time not attacking or missing crits

[harsh wraith]

im also missing xiada but im long past needing to build her

[inland saddle]

Yh but i want few more of those from that list before i use target banner

[orchid mist]

Yeah just selector Mio

[inland saddle]

Min-maxing the banner bcs its op

[inland saddle]

[rotund mason]

I wasted mine on tiamat

[inland saddle]

Maybe they update target banner in few months

And i still dont use it

[orchid mist]

That’s cope

So cope

[rotund mason]

Lmao

[inland saddle]

Yes ik im coping

But idk getting new chars is easy af

So wouldnt matter

[rotund mason]

Just pick celince gang

[inland saddle]

Pulls income is only good economy abt this game

[orchid mist]

Just spend more on the game

[rotund mason]

Yall gonna see

Celince meta

[inland saddle]

I legit pitied holden/hoyan and pulled perma till like

[harsh wraith]

my goat

[inland saddle]

3 days ago

Abd im again at 50 pulls

Pulls least of the issues in this game

[rotund mason]

372 🥀

[orchid mist]

160,000 crystals for new LD

[harsh wraith]

i debate between that cdmg edge vs atk for him

[inland saddle]

We dont talk abt LD im talking abt rgbs

Rgb pulls are raining

Ld pulls we forget those exist and move on

Perm banner will bless us

[harsh wraith]

i look at yeli and go

"the more units i skip the better perma banner is"

[inland saddle]

Luckily i had good friend grab me yeli packs so i got her, cant even build her but design do be peak

[rotund mason]

Makes sense

Unless she were bad

Like nahur

Because what the fuck is that dude

I thought he was an sr

[inland saddle]

Bow chars +1000% in looks department instantly

[orchid mist]

[rotund mason]

Bro that dude is so bad

[high kettle]

50x1

[rotund mason]

We need to talk bri

What is that

170k

[inland saddle]

Nahur isnt bad trust ull see him

[orchid mist]

[rotund mason]

NO

[harsh wraith]

idk i feel like nahur is luxury doki unit

[orchid mist]

You didn’t see anything

[rotund mason]

You cant convice me here

[harsh wraith]

what they posted

[rotund mason]

That dude is like the worst ssr ever??

[inland saddle]

Both doki/general pve like ember/ether and pvp

[rotund mason]

Even hellkid is better

[inland saddle]

Everything abt him is good aside his design

[harsh wraith]

hes only good if he can land his stuff at 1/1/1

[inland saddle]

Looks like hoyo took over XD and made his crinfe ass design

[rotund mason]

No noo why are you spreading missinformation 😭

[inland saddle]

Helkid is either busted or okay, he is never bad

[rotund mason]

Yooooooooooooooo

[orchid mist]

[rotund mason]

What the fuckk

[high kettle]

Bro

[inland saddle]

If u saw prime prenerf helkid in cbt 2 h would call him the exodia of this game

Current lily is irrelevant in comparison to cbt2 helkid

[rotund mason]

Yea but we are not there 🥀

And hellkid is ass

[harsh wraith]

helkids one of the units im missing

he looks cool but his kit looks like ill be okay missing it until it comes along randomly

[inland saddle]

Like if helkid was in his cbt2 state im p sure no inferno needed a nerf (not memeing)

[orchid mist]

I regret s3 maxing Hellkid tbh

[inland saddle]

He would solo all

[orchid mist]

oh well

[rotund mason]

You have to build a hella squishy dude for a 10k shield

Na what is that

[inland saddle]

Helkid is in a weird spot rn bcs all control units go rev in rta

[harsh wraith]

so what was this im so nosy

[orchid mist]

And then it gets dispelled by viper

[inland saddle]

If rev fixed helkid instawins most cc comps

[rotund mason]

You don't want to see it

[rotund mason]

🥀

Should be undispellable

[harsh wraith]

but what waaas it

[orchid mist]

What was what

[inland saddle]

Yes

[rotund mason]

Every man dream

[harsh wraith]

helkid would be amazing if he could start his team with 1 turn of his barrier like val s3 triggering start of turn

[rotund mason]

Ok that would be straight up broken

And bad for My lilith

[harsh wraith]

but look at him

hes a medium spd char that is lattice hungry and does nothing really

[rotund mason]

I know

[orchid mist]

He is not medium speed

[rotund mason]

Now imagine nahur

[orchid mist]

[harsh wraith]

136

[rotund mason]

That dude is even WORSE

[harsh wraith]

its okay speed

[rotund mason]

Make hellkid get hp from attack like borgne

Thats all he need

[harsh wraith]

he needs to build atk on top of that

and you will have to ignore eff and hp

if i wanted to build turn 1 immunity wouldnt i just go giga speed linglou

[rotund mason]

He is 3 turns immunity tbf