DokiDoki Inferno Auto w/Mocha, 1:10 clear, 80% wr

[devout pewter]

making you faster than second wave without 290 speed

if you see this

look at where kloss is at the beginning of second wave

she already almost finished cycling

[covert sparrow]

Okay I am retarded

[devout pewter]

not bc she is faster than enemy

but bc she is a lot faster than rilmocha

[covert sparrow]

Kazu is wearing my ssania gear and the reason she goes before is cus of strive lol

[devout pewter]

damn strive

[covert sparrow]

Yeah since I watched it closely now and realised she got hit and meter went up

[devout pewter]

its okay problem soved

[covert sparrow]

I need to get like 5% more dps on mocha and I’m sorted now

[devout pewter]

1 more debuff

or a few skillups

[ripe acorn]

theres another option over kloss?

[quick raven]

is this good enough to 1 shot both waves? with kloss / kazuya / yang . rarely i get to one shot first wave. no dmg downs all debuff hitting

[covert sparrow]

Trying to roll last passive on shell for higher rarity lol

[warped mortar]

doki doki nerfed 😮

[autumn hill]

when is this from

[warped mortar]

20 hours from now

[devout pewter]

Bc you running keeneye rather than momentum

Keeneye is 25% damage boost first wave

Then 15% second wave

While momentum is 30 to 36% for both waves

Missing about 5% damage here

[quick raven]

Havin trouble in the first wave with this stats for now

Should i just switch to momentum set? Or any other options

[devout pewter]

Quickest fix probably momentem

But since boss getting nerfed

You can probably wait and check

[quick raven]

Theres another nerf soon?

[devout pewter]

Apparently

[slate flame]

@devout pewter thank you boss i can officially auto now

With the upcoming nerfs it’ll be free

[idle cosmos]

20% nerf so stat goals should be so much easier ye? maybe i dont need to farm anymore

[slate flame]

Whatever you have now should work

[devout pewter]

20% nerf is just massive

Previously you need fury momentum unless 5/5

Now I think even stuff like keeneye harvest can work

Harvest lose 3% damage compare to fury and keeneye loses 20% on second wave, which is only 23% total damage

Should be fine with stat lose

[slate flame]

Ima just keep her on momentum

[cold ingot]

Tbh u don't need momentum for OS wave 1&2

[formal rampart]

maybe they nerf it from yesterday

i manage to 3 star inferno using this rimolcha, no fury and my stat kinda sucks

[brave loom]

who are you guys aiming at to oneshot the second wave?

[devout pewter]

Far left or far right

[devout pewter]

Damn do you have dupes or skillups in s1 s2?

[devout pewter]

Ya they did 20% all stat nerf

[covert sparrow]

It feels like I overlap the mobs too much and they aren’t stunned when mocha gets to hit them in wave 2

[teal lodge]

Don’t need to be stunned when hit. Just stunned once to remove that def buff they get

[covert sparrow]

I might need to tweak some stuff then cus 2nd wave is very inconsistent now

[devout pewter]

probably just speed tune

thats like

90% of the game

is just speed tuning

which is also why i hate shells that pushes you or units that only pushes 1 unit

messes up a lot of stuff

[covert sparrow]

oh the patch isnt live yet

[devout pewter]

right

so you will be fine lol

enemy have so much less stat

my only wish now is they nerf rengo

[covert sparrow]

i woke up so i figured the patch was over night

[warped mortar]

maintenance in 1 hour and 18 mins

[bitter edge]

Kazuyo and kloss on codex right?

[cold ingot]

Skill up on s3, full dupes, mio/kazu/kloss on codex

Need 287 spd on mio

[devout pewter]

i would get a attack buffer

really big

[ripe acorn]

@devout pewter what can i use over kloss?

[devout pewter]

dinah with a lot more eff

and hp

[ripe acorn]

and actually she needs to outspeed?

so more than 290 spd?

[devout pewter]

and you need to go first

she doesnt need to

if you dont have kloss you need a cc to go first

cc them

then kazuyo cc again

so dinah doesnt die

but there is a argument that you can run stuff like gray after the nerf

as boss have a lot less hp

[ripe acorn]

uhm nice to hear

which modules/shell?

do u know that

[devout pewter]

you are bassically mising 12% damage from momentem and 10% from kloss hack debuff

[devout pewter]

no idea

[ripe acorn]

i have keeneye fury

[devout pewter]

then just 10% from hack

[covert sparrow]

nice inferno clear finally hopefully it works in auto

[covert sparrow]

6-2 isnt the worst

[tough adder]

Any replacements for Kloss? Would Grey or 6 star Dinah work?

[quick raven]

they already nerfed doki doki?

[devout pewter]

not really

dinah you need a cc at 287 to out speed to work

grey can work after the nerf

if you have good enough gear

[tough adder]

I just built my mio at 287, but only one of the right side is eff hit. hope it works, fingers crossed!

[wanton plover]

Anybody got any minimum stats to aim for post nerf please?

[autumn hill]

so close xD

i use marvel btw for 2 debuffs, and speed control at first wave, it also helps out with resistance/acc eff, because of his debuff

[idle cosmos]

seriously....marvel is just better than mio then....mio doesnt give any debuffs

on first wave

[autumn hill]

i hav 288 speed on him

[idle cosmos]

no i mean mio only pushes the enemies back she doesnt debuff them

[autumn hill]

yeah marvel puts res debuff

and speed debuff

AND push them back

[fading knoll]

lingluo make the run slow

swap lingluo with lily and swap freya with fang

under 1 min clear

[idle cosmos]

i thought lily breaks the speed tuning

[fading knoll]

mine works

that 50% cd is very helpful for fast clear

[autumn hill]

i need yellow/red atk% on shell to one shot, but keep getting flat x.x

[warped mortar]

Doki nerf keeping the runs consistent 🔥

[fading knoll]

could one shot 2nd wave if my rilmocha s1 lvl 4

[idle cosmos]

what if that first aoe mob hit gives rilm the atk down though?:

then u risk the rng of the run failing

and this seems like exactly the same thing

its like 15 seconds saved lol

[fading knoll]

still can clear the first wave even with attack down

50% cd helps

[devout pewter]

uhm interesting

idk maybe after the nerf you can, cd doesnt do that much when you have 320 cd already

like extra 50 cd is only 9% damage

while a freya debuff of some sort is 12% flat + 6% momentem

but if it works it work

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-hold-gif-2867896429227625752

[slate flame]

It’s so easy now haha

[wispy breach]

Luckily, i have gray to carry me. Rilmocha just never come

[tidal flume]

Can you pin the first post? There's really no top post button for me xdd thanks

[devout pewter]

i dont have perm lmao

[tidal flume]

Can you link it

[autumn hill]

Doki is ez except for the mocha stat check and the unbelievable amount of gold lattice to make stable, good luck

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IMPORTANT!!!
Attack order: Kloss>Freya>Kazuyo>lingluo> rilmocha

Rilmocha
Set: fury momentem
Skills: s3 maxed, rest are optional if you dont have enough stat
Min stat: 85 crit rate, 310 crit damage (the more the better), 2.8k attack (attack less important bc of count)
•• in this case: my damage is (2.8k(base attack) * 140% (attack buff) + 1.2k(count))*310%(crit damage) = 15.9k ish attack value. I’d imagine if you have around that you are fine.
Shell: Count, not replaceable
you want as much damage as possible, reroll the shell passive if needed!

Kloss
Set: Swift
Skills: 2 tofu into s3, make debuff chance 100%
Min stat: 220eff +, 240 speed +
Shell: Codex

Freya
Set: Swift
Skills: 2 levels into s3 if you want more chance to debuff
Min stat: 234 speed +, 220 acc +
Shell: Codex

Kazuyo
Set: Swift
Skills: s3 maxed
Min stat: 220 eff+, 228speed +
Shell: Codex

Lingluo
Set: Swift
Skills: none
Min stat: 222 speed +
Shell: Codex, you can use other stuff too but, doesnt change much

Mob speed is 228, but with speed down the current stat is fine, if you have the luxury the faster the better while keeping the speed tune

rilmocha needs 5 of the 6 debuffs to 1 shot both waves, if you dont land at least 5 debuffs you are cooked

Freya has a upper replacement named beyontin, tho she cant tank shit her buff is significantly better, even at the cost of losing a debuff.

Kloss cant be replaced rn, 3 debuffs too juicy.

Lingluo can maybe be replaced by valerian, but personally i really like the s1 cleanse to take away the rng of attack down, which is why you can make an excuse to level it, the gear req isnt crazy might as well.

in my test 80 to 90 wr.

best of luck!

video is 2 comments below

[devout pewter]

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[idle cosmos]

sweet i can do it now. but the rng with the debuffs is pretty tough

[slate flame]

Most annoying part of the run

The 10% just ruins everything

[devout pewter]

right lol

[idle cosmos]

I’m also struggling to reach 220 eff acc on everyone while also reaching the right speed. Dunno whether to try do it through the shells or farm hell IV or just spam inferno with a low WR

[slate flame]

Is 220 the minimum? I thought 180

[sour belfry]

is insight or gaze better, not sure what at the end of each turn means for gaze

character turn or just any turn

[devout pewter]

i ran 180, with around 80% wr ish

cahnged to 220

near 95% wr

this was pre nerf tho

[devout pewter]

tripple eff + some subs

tbh even with 50% wr its not that bad

its 11 energy per run

[slate flame]

Huh really

I wonder what the threshold is since 10% exists anyways

Anyone know mob eff res?

[idle cosmos]

Yeah I had 180 now i saw 220 lol

[idle cosmos]

Sweet cause I’m just lacking mythic effect acc

[devout pewter]

180 worked fine right?

[covert sparrow]

i am not monitoring my runs but i seem to be either 8-0 or like 4-4

[wanton plover]

More CD? 10% less crit? On Fury 8/8 harvest 8/8. any other feedback? Thanks

[sour belfry]

how mcuh hp is left after you debuff and all with that setup?

[wanton plover]

About a third but need to work on Freya I think

[sour belfry]

how many debuffs are on it?

nightmare + defense down + slumber?

i dont think harvest and fury would ever work

8 module matrices are meant to be secondaries, you cant rock with double secondary module setup

it'll do no damage, i think you should try to get momentum + fury as that is the best setup for 1 shot mocha

[wanton plover]

Ok thank you i haven’t got decent terror team so I’ll farm that for some momentum

[sour belfry]

momentum is in aurora :p

[idle cosmos]

no. i just tried like 10 times and won once

[slate flame]

You need more att and way more crit damage

[wanton plover]

Well that says it all 😂

[slate flame]

I clear with 180% eff acc

[sour belfry]

what's your threshold prog?

[idle cosmos]

yeah so i guess missing 20 crit damage is still too much

bc i cant miss a single debuff

[idle cosmos]

actually this one win might now be a win my rilm isnt killing

ok she barely got it she got lucky

[slate flame]

Your rill needs too look like this for ez clear

[idle cosmos]

i dont have any lettuce in my freya yet though. otherwise everything is the same

[wanton plover]

Thank you

I’ll stick to hell IV for a bit more

[idle cosmos]

yeah i just thought after the nerfs id need less stats. but that doesnt seem to be true

[slate flame]

I just farmed aurora hell 4 to get my pieces

[idle cosmos]

yeah ive been farming for like a week now while max refreshing

still not good enough

[slate flame]

If i can get a 3 matrice count shell then i can prob one shot the final boss too

I skilled up her s1 too for att buff

[devout pewter]

Inferno rengo be kike

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribbian-funny-stare-wink-gif-20597720

[idle cosmos]

back to the mines i guess. i thought 20% hp nerf would help lol

[sour belfry]

daban what is the eff acc i need to make kloss hit cap of 90% on lvl 3 s3 🙂

im at 208 eff acc why is it still missing sometimes

with an gold insight 3rd passive too 😭

[devout pewter]

220

[slate flame]

I know i hate it

[slate flame]

220 is a Forsure? Regardless of 10%

[devout pewter]

No still have 10%

But you hit 90%

[sour belfry]

is that with every character

or because kloss s3 lvl 3 is 100% it says

i forgot the math..

[idle cosmos]

is it 220 including Insight or not including insight?

[slate flame]

So 220 to reach 90%? Damn how much eff res do mobs have

[covert sparrow]

120

Iirc

[slate flame]

Damn bro

[sour belfry]

so i assume its kloss s3 lvl 3 is 100%, and 220 eff acc -> 2.2 * 100 = 220 minus the 120 eff res from mobs is 100, minus base of 10 is 90% cap

thats what i assume the math is if i backward solve it lol

[slate flame]

Nah sounds about right

So 220 is minimum Argh

[sour belfry]

crazy how i’m still going 70-80% WR even with a stacked team lmao

like either it doesn’t sleep or the defense doesn’t apply

i’m using cachi at 287 speed to go first

[idle cosmos]

i keep missing the debuff from freya

i think yang is more consistent

[tough adder]

why are most people using Mio over Marvel for doki speed clears? are Mio S3 upgrades needed?

[idle cosmos]

you dont need her skill more than once and she has less debuffs so i dont get why youd get it to 5 or why youd use her over marvel tbh

[tough adder]

only thing I can think of is her 5 higher base speed

[slate flame]

@whole veldt

[terse canyon]

question, how is rilmocha resetting her s3 between waves without lily?

[slate flame]

When she kills wave it resets

[terse canyon]

Got it, thank you

[autumn hill]

thx boiz

exatly 1:10 as you said at second run

[devout pewter]

nice

it should be exact same skill order so

[autumn hill]

well for me marvel goes first, and he gives debuff to res eff, so i dont mind rest of the order

because at the end its 6 debuffs anyway

i dont need slumber to be the last one

do we have similar setup with no lily for inferno terro?

[covert sparrow]

Is there any way to make rilmocha go before 2nd wave ?

Cus they wake up before she goes brrr

[woeful cobalt]

Kazuya for Celince ? better chance to put debuff ?

[terse canyon]

any other replacement for freya on this? beyontin just gets killed by the adds

[covert sparrow]

Yang

[covert sparrow]

does it matter which of the 4 you focus on wave 2 ?

[ripe acorn]

is that guy viable over kloss?

[devout pewter]

Looks good to me you can try

[edgy vapor]

What speed would I need to hit to go first on first wave?

Driving me crazy with attack break

[autumn hill]

288

from what i remember

[slate flame]

Faster rilmocha or better speed tuning. Your rilmocha should be strong enough to kill anyways

[devout pewter]

287 is my test but that could be the wave speed too and I just won 50\50, 288 you for sure win

[idle cosmos]

Sometimes my runs fail even after oneshotting the waves cause they die to the boss

[slate flame]

The boss has to get cc again

[idle cosmos]

Yeah but that’s another layer of rng my Kazuyo just doesn’t always do it

[slate flame]

Up her s1 to max

[idle cosmos]

It’s already level 4

215 eff acc

[devout pewter]

So 85% chance you will kand

Land

Rilmocha s3 has a 50% chance too if you don't have any eff acc

If you miss both

[idle cosmos]

Even if Rilm stuns she can’t kill for whatever reason if Kazuyo doesn’t do it

[devout pewter]

Then god doesn't like you and you will lose the run lol

[idle cosmos]

I swapped from Lingulo to Lily and went from like 20% WR to like 60%

[devout pewter]

Huh

Idk most people here do with lingluo at 80% 90% ish wr

Especially after nerf it's closer to 100% than ever

[idle cosmos]

I guess Freya lattice issue that’s the only thing I can think of

[devout pewter]

Check vid see what you miss

[devout pewter]

.

[idle cosmos]

Some loss conditions are:
Kazuyo not landing the slumber on the boss then Mocha dies
Kloss not landing the def shred on the either of the target adds, first or second wave.
Sometimes Lingulo doesn't cleanse the atk debuff and that's a loss for first wave, barely. This seems to happen preetty often
And then the obvious Kazuyo not slumbering the target add at all
Sometimes speed tuning gets messed up by the speed down so someone goes after Kazuyo and cleanses the sleep so not enough debuffs for momentum
Its not even really freya's fault actually, i think i only saw that once a while ago

[sour belfry]

ling not cleansing, kloss not applying defense shred, and kaz not sleeping are the most common ones yes

those should be the 3 reasons why you lose

i use a cachi for that reason and not ling

or you can use marvel

he applies eff res down so technically he is the best

[idle cosmos]

Marvel res down doesn affect the base 10% chance to fail right?

[sour belfry]

nope

[idle cosmos]

So not rly useful once you reach 220 except for the momentum stack

[devout pewter]

right

with all that being said

with the nerf speed tune doesnt matter that much, im killing even if someone attacks to wake people up

"i have a stacked rilmocha ofc, but its duable"

[idle cosmos]

thats just what i saw that killed one of my runs

[devout pewter]

should be better with nefs

or your mocha is slacking

kazuyo too

misses once in 30 runs

if you have the efffacc bc she attacks 3 times, each at 45*2 chance to land

so you get 3 90% check rather than normally just 1

the real and only issue is kloss

its a flat 90%

[idle cosmos]

This is my Mocha rn

[slate flame]

Are you able to clear wave?

[idle cosmos]

if everything goes right yes

[slate flame]

Interesting

[terse canyon]

If anyone’s using Beyontin here can please share stats? Mine keeps dying to the adds

[devout pewter]

If you run beyontin you need to go first my guy

Have 2 cc units, one being 287 speed

Cc first wave, do everything the same, then second wave

You can't let enemy take a single turn bc beyontin is disadvantage, which means she will get targetted and will die in 1 hit

On top of element disadvantage enemy also do a bonus 80% on disadvantage I think

[terse canyon]

Go figure, don’t think I can hit that speed just yet. Thank you though! Might try to swap her with no.41 for the atk buff

[royal gate]

@devout pewter Is fury momentum a must?

[warped mortar]

Yea

Especially momentum

[royal gate]

I'm having trouble finding Fury, can onslaught and momentum solve it?@warped mortar

[graceful patrol]

Tech for beyontin: you can consider using lighthouse with around 240+ speed, it's not that hard to survive 1 hit from the mob which will push your beyontin to ult

[bold stratus]

You can replace Lingluo with Yang, slightly lower threshold for Crit Rate as it buff 30%

[slate flame]

What if mocha gets att down?

[wind furnace]

im running xiada, valerian, lily, kazuyo and kloss but can't seem to succeed? any thoughts?

my current stats

[slate flame]

Max kazuyo s3 and level 3 her s1

[slate flame]

I tried this and it’s my fastest and most consistent. Marvel has to be 287 minimum tho. I have his s3 maxed too

[bitter edge]

The other speeds?

[slate flame]

Kloss 251, kazuyo 247 and yang has to move before rilmocha

Marvel has 212% eff acc, and kaz and kloss has 190%

[wind furnace]

speed and gear all good?

[slate flame]

Wdym

[wind furnace]

modules and shells no problem then?

[bold stratus]

I use Mio to take enemies turn meter, with decent speed tuning enemies didnt event attack

[slate flame]

Codex

[slate flame]

Yeah i already had marvel maxxed thats why im using him

[formal musk]

can anyone tell me whats wrong with my chars?

[devout pewter]

doesnt lily messes up the tunning?

also you cant deal with attackdown

[formal musk]

it somehow doesnt

[devout pewter]

this is how my team goes, check yours

and see if theresnt anything you can do to get that tunning

i personally just dont think lily is doing anything here, id rather get a lingluo or freya

[formal musk]

I dont have freya, but im not getting the speed to be able to outspeed in the second wave

[devout pewter]

bc you are missing the freya pushback

and you are getting speed down

which is why lingluo and freya so goodso good

[formal musk]

I can use the ling to cleanse but still not getting first in wave 2..

[devout pewter]

i guess you just need to up your speed overall then

[formal musk]

dang, what speed do I need?

[devout pewter]

idk, you are missing 12% tho

of cr push

you can even try to make mocha slower

so she buys more time for team to lap

[formal musk]

oh ok

i think my mocha is missing some damage....

[devout pewter]

...

[formal musk]

she can 1 shot first wave, but second wave didnt clear with 1 shot unless a debuff missed.

[devout pewter]

ya bc you are betting on landing 5/5

rather than normally if you run freya its 5/6

so you only need 5 out of 6 to kil

[formal musk]

dammm freya....

[devout pewter]

should be fine without

they nerfed it

i guess some extra stat will do

[formal musk]

can I use marvell instead?

for pushback and some debuffs?

instead of lily

[devout pewter]

ofc

better than lily for sure

i really dont know what lily does there lol

[formal musk]

lolol

but I''ll need codex on marvell too right?

[devout pewter]

right

[formal musk]

dang

[devout pewter]

you ideally want the exact 1 shot for both waves

if you can do it

[formal musk]

lol, need to farm up for another codedx

[devout pewter]

at the end of the day ist just big pp damage correct speed tunning 1 shot whole wave

lol

[formal musk]

ahhh ok

dam nvm, i cant use marvell, need to use ling

i think its just my overall speed is too slow if I dont have speed buff

so If i have freya, that can replace yang completely?

oh dam, freya is not on the target banner...

bruh

ill just farm doki 4 then....

thanks for your time

[slate flame]

Marvel needs to bs 287 speed to work on codex

[formal musk]

So if I can get him to 287 speed, I can outspend 1st wave and then not use ling?

Oh dam I dont have a swift raid codex...

Argghhhh

[slate flame]

You can do this

[teal lodge]

W

[covert sparrow]

Show a run

[formal musk]

sorry, what do you mean?

[formal musk]

Ahh i saw the background with marvell, so he has 287 speed with codex?

[formal musk]

Has this been consistent?

[slate flame]

Sorry i can’t post videos

[slate flame]

Yeah really consistent

[covert sparrow]

Ah okay

[wanton plover]

Do you think my Freya is too fast? Need more eff to make it safe? 220 on Kaz, Kloss and Freya? and touch more damage in Ril. Have a 10-15% success rate at the minute. Thank you!

[ripe acorn]

can someone help pls? https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1392052988255801428

[bitter edge]

Your rilmocha can oneshot waves?

[wanton plover]

She can but needs all debuffs I think.

I tweaked it, getting there

[devout pewter]

as long as she 1 taps it’s fine

After that it’s just damage check

[normal sleet]

Why you still have 4 loses?

[wanton plover]

I’m not sure actually think it’s a mix of not quite landing enough debuffs and need a bit more juice on Ril 🤷🏻‍♂️

[covert sparrow]

I struggle with the 2nd wave when the middle guy is left and I have no cooldowns to kill him

[wanton plover]

Kloss debuffs sometimes don’t land need 11% more eff? Think if I miss 1 debuff Ril can’t one shot so will farm for a bit more damage. Any feedback appreciated

[slate flame]

You need more att

[tired ruin]

Guys what is the eff acc actually needed on kloss for 100% applying all debuffs?

Has anyone had 100% uptime with kloss debuffs..pls share ur build

even if i miss one debuffs looks like mocha can’t 1 shot the first wave

[covert sparrow]

220%

its not even 100% then

[slate flame]

This is mine for reference, once I’m able to get an inferno count shell i should be able to one shot the big boss with the specialized core now

[teal lodge]

No 100% there is a built in 10% Miss

[teal lodge]

All fights end like this. Either I can kill or he solos me LMAO

[slate flame]

You gotta max kazuyo s1

Or not max but level 3

[teal lodge]

Ok sir

[wind furnace]

hello guys, this is what im running inferno with now, anything i can improve for faster and more consistent runs? im at about 50% wr now

[devout pewter]

i mean its what you get for xiada teams

the fact that enemy take turns and can land debuffs as rng will make your run less stable

[sweet turtle]

Mines like 70% at best usually kloss misses def break on the left unit and rimolcha will obviously hit the left unit anything to stop this ? I wish she would hit the right squishy since kloss will usually hit one of the two def breaks

Kloss S3 skilled up to the % chance skill up +190% effect acc

[devout pewter]

i have 220 eff acc otherwise not much you can do

theres always a basic 10% chance to miss on all debuff, no matter how much eff acc you have

[wind furnace]

so there’s no way to improve itv

[devout pewter]

with xiada not really

best ive seen is just 80% ish wr with better gear than you on xiada

like way better

[sweet turtle]

I watch the runs a lot and literally only lose when I don’t have def break many times it’ll kill 2nd wave without sleep

But ok maybe during 2x I just watch every run 🤣

[wind furnace]

well i guess it's gear problem only then, i actually have mocha but i don't think it's worth investing lattices on just for doki

[devout pewter]

ya for now probably no, expecially with the scarcity of gold lattices

but eventually tho, a much more reliant and faster doki team sounds pretty sweet to me lol

[wind furnace]

yep probably one day....

[formal musk]

@wanton plovercan you please show your marvel?

[wanton plover]

He has no gear/ shell, is he worth building for this?

[wanton plover]

Does only having 48% crit rate effect it or is that enough?

[devout pewter]

He uses yang probably

[covert sparrow]

I need to figure out how to make this more stable as usually I am like 6-2 or 5-3 on clears

[slate flame]

I use yang

[frigid violet]

whats ur team

[wanton plover]

Would you mind sharing your teams stats please would like to give it a go.

[frigid violet]

why is ur crit rate so low? do u not need crits?

[teal lodge]

From the buffer skill boost

[slate flame]

Yang, rilmocha, kloss, marvel, and kazuyo rev, i run triple crit damage and yang gives att and crit rate buff

[slate flame]

Yeah inna bit

[wanton plover]

Thank you

[covert sparrow]

could you record a video of it with nvidia and post it on streamble ?

[slate flame]

Sorry I’m at work that’s why i haven’t been able to send pics of stats

I’ll be able to soon

[idle cosmos]

Yeah I’m still struggling with consistency not rly sure what to focus on first to fix it

[slate flame]

Wave 1 Marvel s3 first pushes all mobs back, kloss def break, kazuyo sleep, yang buff, mocha oneshot

Wave 2 same thing but the boss survives, then kazuyo sleeps him with s1 (MUST) and then he dies to mocha

[idle cosmos]

ATP I’m trying to get furyedge on rilm to maybe help because I guess the big deal is that I’m 13% cdmg too low and 1% crit rate too low

[slate flame]

13 % from what

[idle cosmos]

The build at the top that’s the only difference I can see. I have 2.9k attack, 84% crit rate and 297% cdmg and I only have like 40% WR

I don’t have lattices for marvel so I can’t try him nor do I have the pieces for 287 speed

[covert sparrow]

this could also work with Mio

[slate flame]

Mio is the top choice

I just dont have the lattice for her

[idle cosmos]

I already put lattice in Mio but still don’t have enough speed and she doesn’t seem as useful as marvel. No debuffs

[wanton plover]

Great thank you!

[slate flame]

I can stream it when i get home and help you guys out @wanton plover @idle cosmos @covert sparrow

[wanton plover]

So Marvel needs 220 eff 287 speed? Running codexes and count still?

[slate flame]

Here yall go

I run 4 codex and 1 count

[covert sparrow]

Outside of marvel this seems pretty doable

[slate flame]

Yeah pretty ez

[covert sparrow]

Does mocha 1 shot first wave?

[teal lodge]

Ya

[ripe acorn]

isnt mocha crate too low?

it will be like 78% with buff right? if she doesnt crit everytime u lose

[covert sparrow]

+15 from element advantage

So he missing 7%

[slate flame]

She kills anyways

[wanton plover]

That Marvell is unreal I can get +156 if I level skill 1 for speed and reroll for shell speed but still not enough

But with that eff acc it’s unreal very nice

[light basalt]

Will the new unit with def down on s3 (codex shell) be able to sub for Kloss for Doki inferno? (Rilmocha comp)

[teal lodge]

You want more debuffs

[light basalt]

I use a similiar comp as Yeli Yielder but no Kloss unfortunately.

[teal lodge]

Since kloss applied 3

For momentum gear dmg boost

[teal lodge]

Ready for x2

[idle cosmos]

After swapping to Mio I have 80% WR now and still have some eff acc to get so should be 90% after everyone is 220. Thanks

[wanton plover]

What speed is your Mio? Awesome Kodie. I had a play with old team (the one at the start of the chat)and got about 70% WR 🙌

[idle cosmos]

she's 291 but i think 287 is enough

i like her cause even if the speedrun fails for some reason the team can still work cause theres so much cc

[keen lake]

Fastest team with xiada for inferno: how it will look? Need 1-1:30

[slate flame]

Do you have any skills ups unto her?

[idle cosmos]

S3 Max, S1 lvl 4 for speed. s3 only really needs lvl 4 but 5 helps for fails

[slate flame]

Yeah damnit i don’t got that lattice rn

Ima keep using marvel

Rather max ling s1

[normal sleet]

How much speed on your yang?

[slate flame]

I posted my stats up

[pearl socket]

Lets try my team haha

[slate flame]

Works like magic

[slate flame]

Freya and yang interesting

[covert sparrow]

can you post stats i've tried making this team work but i fail

[south wedge]

Getting the team ready tmrw

And then i should be good for 2x

[hallow dawn]

can u oneshot first wave with just rilm, kaz, kloss yang?

my average clear is 50s using 2 dps

[idle cosmos]

you can oneshot with just that yeah

yang freya and beyontin all work

[hallow dawn]

i can't oneshot the 2nd wave

which is why i have 2 dps

[reef thorn]

Any 100% wr

[teal lodge]

Hold on

What’s the team

[hallow dawn]

2 dps

yang kloss rilm kaz yeli

u can replace yeli with rosa or Messiah

or rin

[wanton maple]

I use this team except instead of Yang I use Freya

[hallow dawn]

i think u want him

that way u can go all out on crit dmg

[wanton maple]

I only need the attack up from Freya

And nightmare helps a bit

[kindred hemlock]

Do you think Mio,Lily,Yeli,Kazuyo and valerian will work?

[hallow dawn]

well if it's working, it's gud ig

[wanton maple]

It should work it just needs proper speed tuning and yeli needs a good rev

Lily sometimes ruins speed tuning

[kindred hemlock]

Thanks, will try this set up

What would be the turn order for this team?

[pearl socket]

you can if you put revelation on freya

[hallow dawn]

tru

[pearl socket]

revelation level 1 is enough, the problem is for some reason 200 % acc kazuyo not sleep

[wanton maple]

Regardless of anything the max effect accuracy will always be 90%

The enemy will always have 10% chance of resisting any debuff

(Which is why people hate this game for its rng)

[pearl socket]

Yeah thats why, i always failed when fail to sleep

Haha

Really mess the turn order

[pearl socket]

Im not login but make sure your kazuyo is 288 ish (290) so she move first

The rest just garbage speed its okay as long as 200% acc

The turn order is kazuyo sleep all, opponent turn all sleep, yang buff, kloss debuff, freya reevelation ult and then rilmocha ult

Make sure your kloss and kazuyo all using codex

[sour belfry]

i aint even lying but is kloss bugged or something

219 eff acc with gold insight and i missed 3 def down in a row

5 times in a row now

[reef thorn]

True

I have s3 lvl 3 as well and I'm still missing

[fading knoll]

naisu consistent now

[reef thorn]

How 😭

[bitter edge]

Team?

[fading knoll]

kloss/rilmocha/kazuya/lily/fang

[bitter edge]

Speed? Sorry i try to make this team but actually rinning the same but linglou at the spot of lily

Becouse of the speed tuning

I think with lily i need more speed on all

[fading knoll]

my lily go first > fang > kloss > kazu > rilmo

kloss and kazu codex

[bitter edge]

Ok but to make this speed tune, kloss-kazu-yang have to be pretty fast to take the turn before mocha after the lily s2

[pearl socket]

Gg guys, all stamina gone, and 0 +12 speed

[devout pewter]

i mean

welcome to etheria

[prisma plaza]

how?

did you check your +3 sub pieces

[hardy bough]

Is it possible to start doing hell without rilm and kloss ?

[devout pewter]

yes, you can use the xiada or yeli team

[hardy bough]

Much appreciated

[hardy bough]

I just got rilm is kloss a must or can I use that other green debuffer in her place

[ripe acorn]

#general-chat message

help

[devout pewter]

Kloss definitely best in slot but you can use others, tho that requires you to have better gears ofc

Gray + marvel works

[hybrid onyx]

Any alternative to Kloss? I don't have her and Lily. I can't 1 shot with Rilmocha. I tried RC77, Dinah.

[bitter edge]

Gray

[hybrid onyx]

Gray is the original debuffer I used. Even if he is maxxed, still cannot 1 shot via Rilmocha.

[bitter edge]

Need to darm modules on aurora

Momentum fury mocha

With count

[hybrid onyx]

Yeah that's my Rilmocha build

[hallow ivy]

what do i use if no mocha?

[pure oxide]

Any alts for klosss or lingluo?

[devout pewter]

you can use marvel gray and sub out lingluo gray

but you need marvel to outspeed doki

[devout pewter]

xiada or yeli also work

tho slower and less stable

[devout pewter]

you can use marvel gray and sub out kloss lingluo

but your gray needs to outspeed doki then

[wanton plover]

Still running this team? Any tweaks? Currently revisiting mine.

[pearl socket]

im using almost the same team, just marvel change to lily

[austere viper]

This team is also fast you guys should to try it if you have the same animus like mine

[rotund brook]

u can use Rilmocha , Marvel , Dinah , Beyontin/Yang , Kazuyo .
Why marvel it have res down so dinah can landing more debuff easily .

[austere viper]

I've try but it sometimes it fail because Marvel sometimes Miss his turn minus debuff so Dinah Will die easily, with Lily team i don't need to hope Marvel debuff works because they always move first by Lily SPD buff

Note : my team has high SPD base so it work so good but if you are still lack of speed maybe you should use Marvel instead of lily

[pearl socket]

yeah lily is much more reliable than marvel

[stone matrix]

Kloss over Dinah change alot?

[wanton plover]

https://youtu.be/qG6pjFWoyKo?si=xlXBihC6qFcs-HmE

Running this now it is great