Etc
#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
quaint marsh
undone vortex
whether it be through reruns, newbie banner or wishbinder
fallow hornet
especially in a pvp game
undone vortex
also segue but the people that be like I don't follow the meta crack me up
undone vortex
need CN to complain about snowstorm in ember trek
quaint marsh
We might see
undone vortex
surely they complain about an AOE pushback, max hp dealing, dispel attack every 10 turns that gets doubled on 1 poor loser
especially when u fighting Sharon lol and her 3 phases
sour oracle
need CN to complain about snowstorm in ember trek
snowstorm was made by the devil himself
fallow hornet
That was the one i missed my lattice in hard
And it was astarte of all the bosses
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sour oracle
i said fuck it halfway throufh
undone vortex
I did beat astarte and rengo but wow
sour oracle
was a miserable experience
sour oracle
astarte was bs
fallow hornet
was a miserable experience
I legit spend 1 and half hour only to get cucked at 15% of hp
sour oracle
after the 10th reset i was happy going lattice-less
undone vortex
cuz I'll be like cool someone lived and then the snowstorm just
whacked them
cuz obviously 15% max hp
aoe is what we needed
sour oracle
ironically
undone vortex
tho snowstorm with Sharon somehow sounds even more cancer than astarte
but I shall see
sour oracle
reymerry might spam proc with snowstorm
undone vortex
you know what
undone vortex
I just do Ethernet rally while doing something else
fallow hornet
And getting shit
undone vortex
it's so stupid but it gives out good stuff unfort
undone vortex
the way they don't even try and make it interesting
fallow hornet
We actually been doing this shit for 5 months now
undone vortex
it's the same planes, same bosses
all the bosses always show up together
like kururu is always with shadow runner and jacques
fallow hornet
The clicking thru nodes is the annoying part
undone vortex
yea
fallow hornet
and if u miss one of the reward nodes lol
The ui is trash
undone vortex
cubic game is just frustrating now
all this effort for like
the minimum reward
and u have to do the tutorial every single time
zzz
fallow hornet
meme I'm ok with
It was fine at first but now its getting annoying and its a waste of time
Like union boss, theatre
fallow hornet
Feels like the more these devs put out nothing burger like this the more players we lose
undone vortex
they attract new players easily
but wow do they suck at retaining them
and then veteran players are like dead in the water lol
undone vortex
like new players that join last month will be fine, new players that join in November idk
esp if the use their LD right away and bumrush for yeli
instead of plume
fallow hornet
Yeli is more attractive to pull for
undone vortex
the male Halloween skin kinda eats
fallow hornet
Which i feel a lot of player will do
undone vortex
yea she def looks better
fallow hornet
plume is the easy mode
undone vortex
and she gets glazed for being usable in all the content
but it's like she's not the best in any of them lol
and also the rng
fallow hornet
and she gets glazed for being usable in all the content
Its because she is hot and an ld
So no elemental disadvantage
undone vortex
ig people don't like building multiple units
fallow hornet
ig people don't like building multiple units
No lattice gang
undone vortex
but for yeli to be functional she needs 455, and u still have lily to invest, u have to bumrush lian for the dumb quest
or else u're stuck with her
fallow hornet
Any dps to be functional u need 4/5/5
spark mural
spark mural
fallow hornet
undone vortex
EOS EVENT
fallow hornet
https://youtu.be/ORoNN7Qt-oI
Its always streamer in his title
undone vortex
dang no ai art thumbnail
he's serious
he didn't get the XD paycheck so it's eos time
fallow hornet
I liked some of the dudes take since he also t1 gang but he then started using ai art
undone vortex
they want CN to have access to tianat
cuz they are like Tiamat is here to stay hunny
fallow hornet
Ive got nothing against ai in any other form of media but in art u can see it look like slop and lack of creativity
undone vortex
imagine the uproar if tia gets nerfed indirectly or directly right after wishbinder
undone vortex
Ive got nothing against ai in any other form of media but in art u can see it lo...
to be it's like laziness lol when using ai in art
fallow hornet
imagine the uproar if tia gets nerfed indirectly or directly right after wishbin...
The t2 gang will go balistics
undone vortex
unless it's the company's own ai cuz I know some animators use it for boring tasks like blink frames
fallow hornet
I just need nerf to amber
undone vortex
I dont have tiamat invested
fallow hornet
Tia is more cancer with amber than without it
undone vortex
lowkey kinda use her as a bait ban
undone vortex
sometimes it don't work tho 
fallow hornet
And since in a cc comp u gonna be lacking damage so hard to consistently put on wound
spark mural
they want CN to have access to tianat
if they don't nerf tia next season
undone vortex
I really don't think they will that's the thing 😂
fallow hornet
sometimes it don't work tho <:deadpepe:740763730463293541>
I prebanned raymerry 3 games in a row and everytime my opps picked tia 3p on amber
undone vortex
they already scared to nerf ssrs directly
can't imagine them nerfing one that showed up on wishbinder twice in a row
fallow hornet
if they don't nerf tia next season <:dv_frogKekOwO:1342089706833449010>
We need them to nerf amber
Cause its ridiculous
U get a second life and immunity along with bb and strive working with it and healing also working.
And no skill cooldowns
sour oracle
tiamat just has damage, but if you damage her in her sweetspot she doesnt do as much
tiamat without her damage does fuck all ngl
sour oracle
raymerry spams her bs no matter what you do
fallow hornet
Peeps dont use actual cleave and cc unit counter like veronica and instead abuse amber
sour oracle
you’re getting rammed whether you like it or not
spark mural
We need them to nerf amber
that too
undone vortex
raymerry in gvg is so cancerrrr
fallow hornet
raymerry spams her bs no matter what you do
Bro she actually saves her passive if u stun her and kill the rest of her team which is stupid
Idk how they coded her passive but it aint working right
undone vortex
yea like???
sour oracle
ngl i wish they disnt make pve so dumb
raymerry is the most fun character to use in pve
she like almost solos union bosses
undone vortex
raymerry is nice for Ethernet
fallow hornet
I was confused why my lily who just touched a fuqui with 70% hp triggered reymerry passive
sour oracle
and ethernet and ember trek
fallow hornet
The fact that the passive gets saved instead of reset and ignores the condition it was meant to proc is wild
undone vortex
cuz my yeli barely kills the mobs at higher levels, so if she fuas 1 to death raymerry can just whack em
but yea raymerry is cancer lol
sour oracle
The fact that the passive gets saved instead of reset and ignores the condition ...
this is consistent with other units tho isnt it?
fallow hornet
this is consistent with other units tho isnt it?
I dont think so
I think they get reset
sour oracle
there’s lots of “this is actually gonna get saved until you meet the condition” things
like jackal
fallow hornet
I dont know about shells
Im talking about the units
Which by far i have only seen on reymarry
sour oracle
fair enough. i cant remember if khloros will save his s3 if you hit 10x when he’s stunned
fallow hornet
fair enough. i cant remember if khloros will save his s3 if you hit 10x when he’...
He is so niche that its hard to notice lmao
Unlike ray in pvp
sour oracle
He is so niche that its hard to notice lmao
man such a shame
he’s one tweak or two away from being really strong in cc comps
fallow hornet
he’s one tweak or two away from being really strong in cc comps
Nah he is single target which makes him hard to use
sour oracle
Nah he is single target which makes him hard to use
I saw him being ised in a cc comp
it was cooking ngl
fallow hornet
Need a lot of setup for him and u sacrificing space for aoe damage dealer
sour oracle
because all cc units hit so often
fallow hornet
it was cooking ngl
Its a race against time
sour oracle
that khloross will just evaporate an unit
fallow hornet
Compared to aoe damage
sour oracle
yea but his multipliers arent bad tbh
fallow hornet
that khloross will just evaporate an unit
Must be max dupes
sour oracle
yea max khloros with s3 maxed at minimum
fallow hornet
Cause as much as people find cleave damage too high they rely on dupes
fallow hornet
Its same with max rahu dupe and tia
The difference in damage is huge
Mass and yeli at p0 is just ass damage like tia and rahu at 0 dupes
sour oracle
Mass and yeli at p0 is just ass damage like tia and rahu at 0 dupes
yea true
i wonder when the 10% damage gets tacked on
celest hollow
Thankfully
I mean you can maybe try out chaos zero nightmare but since it’s only pve you might not like it.
tiny sage
Magna enjoyer
gilded mason
<:FunnyHaha:1378557214570053634> <:7482uwucat1:1314079601672060991>
kayron doesnt look pleased
main elm
The OP trio kinda takes anything thrown at them, broken comb, Haru Kalipe Mika
gilded mason
cant build so many things
main elm
And other 5*s getting dupes like crazy
main elm
Resources economy is harsh but hey, we are ER hell divers so nothing can affect us anymore
main elm
Tbh I'm doing half refreshes everyday, PvE game no need to be competitive even though im 500$ in already just for the fun of it
main elm
Get Rin to 10, she'll cook u poison in the background
main elm
Damn time to lvl up Kahlipe affection
spark mural
they just said on the livestream they might rework the affection
everyone is pissed that u need so many gifts to +15 imagine beyond that
gilded mason
Yeah why is there even a 15
And why is it part of the mission
Its giving me etheria ptsd
gilded mason
Friendship weapon or something soon here
Damn etheria revenue is shooting up
Etheria is saved!!!!
glacial zinc
wtf happened
tribal osprey
wtf happened<:speechless:1390667321177018449>
Asia saved the game
Global went down though
gilded mason
My prediction, give it a couple months
It'll plateau at around 1-2m max
And will keep declining over time
Unless significant changes are made
outer falcon
Asia will die out too
outer falcon
I like that Lingluo has the opposite problem to Sylph, where Sylph is useless as a healer because her AI is buff-based, and Lingluo on AI is useless as a cleanser if the debuffer doesn't do enough damage, because her stupid ass is heal-based
Ultimately I hate this dumbass game
spark mural
outer falcon
Holy gigachad
spark mural
picked hellmid
sour oracle
I like that Lingluo has the opposite problem to Sylph, where Sylph is useless as...
the ai is almost worse than sw ai
especially with who they decide to target
outer falcon
At least in ER there's no randomness besides targeting
Although the random targeting is almost worse than random activations in SW
sour oracle
they’ll just straight-up ignore elements and hp conditions a lot
velvet drift
Devs are such pieces of shit universally
not as shit as chovy internationally
round sable
Cn was like 5m jp was like 2m
PC store is probably where global buys tbf
tribal osprey
PC store is probably where global buys tbf
Can say that about every game on that list
round sable
Can say that about every game on that list
That's fair lol
fallow hornet
wtf happened<:speechless:1390667321177018449>
tribal osprey
https://tenor.com/view/chinese-newyear-gif-5042734
Mid autumn festival goes hard
fallow hornet
Mid autumn festival goes hard<:dv_frogKekOwO:1342089706833449010>
The devs gonna be rerunning train and champs gamble for the rest of the year
ripe kraken
https://tenor.com/view/chinese-newyear-gif-5042734
Time to not improve cause we still selling let's rejoice and have a toast in this moment
fallow hornet
Time to not improve cause we still selling let's rejoice and have a toast in thi...
the chinese yuan is going strong
ripe kraken
Yes dominated dollar
In revenue
Suddenly some cc who see revenue said hey er can u throw me bag again
fallow hornet
what happened to chaos nightmare
fallow hornet
I think its more than that
ripe kraken
Getting girls in story
fallow hornet
the koreans bros get a lot of shit for unnecessarily
fallow hornet
they the ones that made sg do all the neccessary changes to make what epic 7 is rn
fallow hornet
U can see samool vid
nah i dont care for the game that much to watch a video lmao
ripe kraken
It has the same problem of e7 episode 4
fallow hornet
U hate it though
if i was a dedicated hater like you id be spamming eos in the czn discord server or talk shit about it
ripe kraken
Initial story written by one guy later written by a entire new guy
fallow hornet
i even left the server cause there wasnt anything there for me
no cool emotes
nothing
even the cosplays was like meh
i believe my korean bros no matter the stupid reason
they the ones that didnt let sg get away with their bs
ripe kraken
Btw that live apology chat
Should have seen
No humanity at all in chat
Got very brutal
fallow hornet
Btw that live apology chat
bro btw do u play the game or not
i dont see u posting czn content here like the rest
fallow hornet
I already said I don't
i forgot lol
fallow hornet
Haven't touched any games since 3 days
get well soon man
ripe kraken
And burnt out anyways from games
fallow hornet
i play games for fun so i dont really get burnt out from them lol
but if u only playing gacha games then its understandable
sour oracle
i play games for fun so i dont really get burnt out from them lol
i notice gamers are fomoed into misery-playing games
it’s weird af
Idk if it’s always been that way, or a very recent psychological change
but it’s like people expect that a game has to be enjoyable 24/7 or it’s garbage
carmine sand
Anxiety babies generation
fallow hornet
i notice gamers are fomoed into misery-playing games
You can thank gacha and mmos for that
outer falcon
This piece of shit in BearMaster refused to leave until I killed his Aya and Ling lmao
undone vortex
light bough
W drafr 2 strip + chelince
outer falcon
This shit is so unplayable in the Raymerry era
glacial zinc
just wait til captain etheria era
fallow hornet
This piece of shit in BearMaster refused to leave until I killed his Aya and Lin...
Sir i need a stall comp draft that takes too much time to kill, dont even want to win just want to stall.
outer falcon
It's literally all people draft
fallow hornet
There are some mfers out there running triple to 4 amber that i want to stall them to death
fallow hornet
It's literally all people draft
I usually cleave so my matches are done fast but i want to make the guys that draft triple healer protect the king draft and amber city drafts miserable
outer falcon
I think the best stall drafts are actually Aya Fuqiu Rahu Lingluo drafts
Infinite turns, infinite healing, no debuffs, speed buff, artisan shields, def buff, no cooldowns
fallow hornet
The reason why i hate bruiser drafts is mainly cause of the shit healers
Fuqui healing is no joke. That hoe 10% once and its gg for the entire cc cleave team
fallow hornet
I mean you can maybe try out chaos zero nightmare but since it’s only pve you mi...
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Smilegate and pve no thanks
celest hollow
It’s fun
fallow hornet
I see global peeps slander kr players when infact the kr players are the only ones who pressure the devs to change decisions. They making sg rewrite the story to be darker is for the better but not like sg can make good stories lmao.
Free 50 pulls from the kr gang and all i see is slander from global bros
celest hollow
I don’t really care for stories so it is what it is
But yeah people were complaining that
fallow hornet
Arent u playing pve games for the story
celest hollow
Nah
fallow hornet
But yeah people were complaining that
I dont know the whole drama since i only browse thru the czn reddit cause of the goonbait pics.
celest hollow
I just skip the story
fallow hornet
But seeing global hoes who just cant do shit to the devs and just take it like a beetch complaining about kr bros complaining makes me sad.
celest hollow
Yeah people were complaining that pretty much the proto aka you were getting cucked by one of the male characters the entire game
fallow hornet
Yeah people were complaining that pretty much the proto aka you were getting cuc...
I feel theres more to that ngl
spark mural
I see global peeps slander kr players when infact the kr players are the only on...
they changed the story because they want another harem mc bc kr thought they were on the cuck chair watching owen taking all the girls 💀
celest hollow
No that’s literally one of the biggest reasons why not even joking
fallow hornet
The global players in e7 were also slandering kr players calling them whiny beetches when infact they the reason e7 is as generous as is today.
celest hollow
Obviously some bugs that already god fixed
fallow hornet
they changed the story because they want another harem mc bc kr thought they wer...
Maybe the story is shit
celest hollow
But just just like gfl2 where the whales want their waifus to themselves and don’t want to get “cucked”
fallow hornet
I mean they paid 10k+ to get a 2d png female character so obiviously they gonna consider them their waifu
fallow hornet
No that’s literally one of the biggest reasons why not even joking
I feel sg went too hard on the goonbait
Had a great potential to make it horror themed
outer falcon
tribal osprey
Wtf is happening
Trying to flood the feedback from the toxic toxic community
quaint nexus
Trying to flood the feedback from the toxic toxic community
that's toxic. useless feedback
tribal osprey
that's toxic. useless feedback
Feedback was useless anyways. Devs did the hoyo feedback system
spark mural
💀
undone vortex
china will save ER
undone vortex
Uzi will save er
outer falcon
@undone vortex good luck
outer falcon
nope
undone vortex
have to do this dumb 10 fearless thing
outer falcon
i'm just fucking around with drafs
outer falcon
i'm about to turn a cleaver into swiss cheese
outer falcon
both of these other guys in the quarter are stall nerds i'm out
outer falcon
i just leave when it's assholes like that
light bough
done mine
got cced to death multiple times
need to prepare more anti-cc units and check the draft next 
undone vortex
ok aint dealing with GEORGE
outer falcon
i need to max aya s2 in prep for the t1 buff this cc unit is supposed to cause or whatever
undone vortex
if what u said is true
light bough
me aya got banned
got sylph on alicorn
its a scam
4 debuffs. cleanse 3 except the hard cc one
then mostly lazy to think and ban wrong
undone vortex
the way people just be leaving fearless right away
and requeuing for the quest lol
outer falcon
it's awesome
outer falcon
i'm in one with george again
and this bastard ryqzl
who always forgets to ready up
undone vortex
i ran into him
light bough
light bough
what has george been doing
outer falcon
why are you a child loving soldier, george...
outer falcon
nah it was just double healer arti bruiser type stuff
light bough
mine got made miserable
undone vortex
with mio
undone vortex
oh i rmb going against that in rta
light bough
celince
outer falcon
look at these geniuses
outer falcon
honestly he did surprisingly well
light bough
woops
outer falcon
why did my spacebar die
undone vortex
buthe lasted longer than iexpected
this the type of things @carmine sand hears
undone vortex
if god is real ill get celince next
vague violet
Hello dead gamers. What have I missed?
warped dune
Anybody else dropped CZN already xD ?
vague violet
The reroll was tedious, I hate chibi anything, the lack of proper auto battle was insurmountable.
inland chasm
Anybody else dropped CZN already xD ?
Trash game anyway
glacial zinc
Anybody else dropped CZN already xD ?
tedium nightmare zero sweep more like it
warped dune
I simply find the game loop boring. Its like u run chaos 24/7 to get cooked by RNG because you pull trash epiphanys and then u just repeat until u get good RNG to then use those decks in 1 Endgame mode.
fallow hornet
I simply find the game loop boring. Its like u run chaos 24/7 to get cooked by R...
What did i tell yall
That game is gonna be a rng fest cause thats the only way sg knows how to make a game challenging
glacial zinc
That game is gonna be a rng fest cause thats the only way sg knows how to make a...
the tedium is worse for me so far, the chaos runs are just too damn long
fallow hornet
the tedium is worse for me so far, the chaos runs are just too damn long
As soon as i saw the gameplay and gearing system i knew the game was gonna get boring after story finish lmao
Have fun manualling
glacial zinc
i just quit instead
was skipping through all the story
vague violet
Have fun manualling
YEAH, WTF is this crap in 2025? Like we all know how we like to play mobile games by now and if we wanted constant manual attention, then we would be playing console or PC games.
remote pollen
Can i cry on this channel because we have yet to get abyss?
remote pollen
Anybody else dropped CZN already xD ?
I bought welkin then i drop it for dna
Too much ahegao?
Their first banner were highschool girl so nah imma pass
spark mural
i think im done with etheria, seeing tia rahu ray every match isn't fun
vague violet
How is DNA? I couldn’t tell if it was harem trash or not
spark mural
How is DNA? I couldn’t tell if it was harem trash or not
its basically anime warframe
vague violet
maybe I’ll check it out then
spark mural
i don't think i will
vague violet
I know that star whatever (not resonance) that one done by the counter side people is pure harem garbage.
spark mural
I know that star whatever (not resonance) that one done by the counter side peop...
yes but sadly thats what koreans like
vague violet
It's as if they don't have corn
spark mural
the gameplay loop looks fine but need to see actual game release, end of this month
spark mural
It's as if they don't have corn
they dont
vague violet
Just legalize that and spare us these embarrassing games
vague violet
they dont
but I mean, even in the era of DNS hiding and rerouting really
like just get a VPN
spark mural
yeah but thats a whole lot of work just to jerk off
vague violet
I don’t know I think waiting for that one second of up skirt or that rubbing moment in a harem game is a lot of effort too
spark mural
I don’t know I think waiting for that one second of up skirt or that rubbing mom...
u just need to see their nikke revenue
not tease, thats straight up hentaii
vague violet
fair enough.
ripe kraken
i don't think i will
Bye tobyasu meet u in star saviour release
spark mural
<:es_PeepoSoldierSalute:824860996182474772>
will be rooting for u and graven to get top 100 next season (half people already quit so u guys got this)
fallow hornet
will be rooting for u and graven to get top 100 next season (half people already...
thanks but i dont really care for top 100 ngl
and i dont know if ill still be playing in this battle royal if they dont bring out any meaningful changes
spark mural
pet skin
fallow hornet
honestly fighting bruiser gang is a lot more stressful cause of 10%
and praying yeli hits more than twice on followup
fallow hornet
<:dv_frogKekOwO:1342089706833449010> pet skin
i wish there was another game like this i can go to
not really any replacement for this in the market which is why i still play
quit e7 cause of same frustrations im having rn in er
spark mural
never had a home on gachas but this game thought was something different
fallow hornet
never had a home on gachas but this game thought was something different
same
i really enjoy the core mechanics of turn based where it isnt that complex
and easy to play on mobile
but this game got a lot of rng issues
spark mural
devs releasing ai notes not saying anything meaninful and this week even more tias on rta was too much for me
boring af
fallow hornet
yeah unless u get lucky with the gear there really isnt a reason to play
cause all you do is shell farming and get dissapointment
fallow hornet
devs releasing ai notes not saying anything meaninful and this week even more ti...
ive been fighting tia on amber all the time now or prebanning it which puts me in a difficult spot
too many counters to t1 along with cr cutting for slow players
light bough
fallow hornet
Ive even gone back to dead by daylight cause i dont have a gacha game to play lmao
light bough
Maintenance mode
fallow hornet
Maintenance mode
E7 was on maintenance mode before i just had enough of the gw meta n broken shit
so i just quit
like nikke
where i found the dailies a slog to go thru
fallow hornet
after more CCs char come
not gonna change much honestly
10% always gonna cuck cc
which is why we want amber nerf
light bough
unless multihits
fallow hornet
cause its counterpick is rng af
fallow hornet
unless multihits <:7482uwucat1:1314079601672060991>
mia and nahor got multi hits and they miss sometimes a lot
fallow hornet
the shell it self is dogshit
too much in the shell
at death doesnt reset skills but instead gives immunity and damage reduction and stacks with bb and strive
light bough
ripe kraken
Time to buff amber so it gives soul ward for 3 turns as well
Let's make every bruiser Elvira
fallow hornet
The fact that er has powercreep this soon in its life cycle is concerning
cause the devs cant just roll back like they couldnt roll back after they released inferno at launch
ripe kraken
The fact that er has powercreep this soon in its life cycle is concerning
The thing is they sell skill ups here
So them nerfing a unit is taking a loss
To their money
So they don't want to nerf
fallow hornet
Imagine if e7 didn't do any nerf in early days
Ive seen a lot of slander from global hoes to the korean bros regarding the latest czn drama
Same global bros in e7 who called korea whiny for the changes we now got in e7 cause they gave shit to sg
ripe kraken
Honestly global is always the clueless yeah it's fine with me I like it how it is gang
They should never meddle with asians
Who want game to improve
fallow hornet
The global beetches are getting 50 free pulls from this drama and instead of being happy they bashing the korean bros
fallow hornet
Peeps really think gacha companies are your friends and will treat you with respect always lmao
delusional mfers
these bastards are there to make money and they testing how much shit they can get away before they get pushback
ripe kraken
A gacha company is always the stingiest and the greediest it can be
ripe kraken
these bastards are there to make money and they testing how much shit they can g...
See hoyo games best example they know their audience is dumb so they literally get away with any practice
And the audience still buys it
fallow hornet
See hoyo games best example they know their audience is dumb so they literally g...
i mean thats the target audience they wanted
filthy casuals
who take pride in things like revenue or it being the most popular game
fallow hornet
And the audience still buys it
its not only exclusive to them but even to nintendo and ea and some other companies i forgot
ripe kraken
I think games will fall off at some point of time in upcoming decades and will be rewritten
I can feel something will happen to gaming hemisphere as a whole
light bough
these bastards are there to make money and they testing how much shit they can g...
plume counterattack?
ripe kraken
its not only exclusive to them but even to nintendo and ea and some other compan...
Byte dance
Tencent
light bough
I think games will fall off at some point of time in upcoming decades and will b...
i believe its starting alrdy
slowly
ripe kraken
I feel indies will rise more in this rewriting of how gaming should be
I can feel passionate devs seperate from company and start their own investments once they acknowledge themselves
light bough
ripe kraken
It's just a matter of time
ripe kraken
I think at some point ai will be enough to develop slop games
For basic user needs
Indies will be late but with good quality
It's just as time goes on the corporate hoops just increase in numbers
That's where passion dies
outer falcon
Roped me for over 8 minutes
This guy got me down to just Mizuki and Lilith but I had a strong chance for a comeback if I hit a couple stuns, and he clearly didn't understand that, because he started roping me
I didn't land a single stun on the Sylph or the Ling the entire time, somehow
Private player card of course
I've never seen Lilith do so badly in my life though
vague violet
Indies will be late but with good quality
Indies with the use of AI Studios and tools will be able to produce some truly crazy things. You’re already seeing this in the film and image space where you can take someone with a lot of talent and creativity but very little resources and amplify their signal significantly. Hollywood for example, only has about another 10 to 20 years left and they don’t even know it.
we’ll see this in Games even faster I’d say within the next 2 to 3 years
outer falcon
outer falcon
Indies with the use of AI Studios and tools will be able to produce some truly c...
Who has accomplished anything remotely interesting in the film and image space excluding memes
vague violet
Who has accomplished anything remotely interesting in the film and image space e...
Are you serious? You should check out some of the Kling film festivals or some of Leonardo’s sponsored projects.
outer falcon
I haven't heard of them, which is a testament to their accomplishments in itself
vague violet
The space is moving very very quickly with new models, completely outpacing the old ones on an almost weekly basis
vague violet
I haven't heard of them, which is a testament to their accomplishments in itself...
I mean, it’s a massive space whether or not you’re involved in it or not is another matter, but eventually it will be inescapable
but most of what people will see for the foreseeable future of 6 to 12 months will just be sora 2 memes
which admittedly are pretty funny
outer falcon
That's an entirely different claim from overtaking cinema, however
vague violet
That's an entirely different claim from overtaking cinema, however
Again, you haven’t seen the film festivals that I’m talking about though I would suggest you check them out cause they’re actually pretty cool
outer falcon
So far the only actual innovations are ads that scam grandmas on facebook
vague violet
I don’t think it’s outrageous that within 10 to 20 years they will be competing and eventually overtaking traditional cinema. For example, why would you go through years of negotiations with fidgety actors and their agents and they’re various demands when you can literally just higher a small team to render an entire studio of actors for you. I don’t know if you caught that scandal I believe as it was at one of the more recent Venice or Cannes film festivals where they had an entirely AI actress that no one knew about until after the films details were revealed I’ll see if I can find the article. It’s pretty funny Emily Blunt absolutely lost her mind over it because she realized at that moment that she was going to be replaced sooner than she could’ve ever expected
there it is
and if you work within the space like I do, you realize how fast it’s moving day by day with every single one of these companies trying to outdo the other with a new model or new features
The stuff people see posted to YouTube is literal AI slop. This is the lowest of the low and very easily output it for free on a variety of platforms. The professional suite of tools goes far beyond this.
outer falcon
I mean she's not expressing fear because the quality of this creation is a match for her or someone else's abilities
She's expressing it because psychopaths like Andreesen will pour infinite money into making them happen anyway, regardless of the merits
vague violet
Tilly, the AI actress is actually already being heavily recruited by talent agencies. It says that right in the article. So yes there is a fear that she would be replaced by a machine creation.
it’s a really interesting article and you should probably read it so you get an idea where we’re headed. But anyways, back to the topic this will be happening and games sooner rather than later, which are already deep into the generative AI space and these tools will be beneficial for small developers. Probably more south enlarged developers, which are still encumbered by these massive development, frameworks and bureaucracies.
outer falcon
It's certainly nice to be caught up in a very heady atmosphere where everyone convinces each other they're inventing the future, but that doesn't mean it's actually happening in a meaningful way
outer falcon
Tilly, the AI actress is actually already being heavily recruited by talent agen...
Right. See again:
I mean she's not expressing fear because the quality of this creation is a match for her or someone else's abilities
She's expressing it because psychopaths like Andreesen will pour infinite money into making them happen anyway, regardless of the merits
I read the article
vague violet
I think it’s naïve to think that machines cannot compete with humans in terms of feigning emotion. The problem with people is that we have this inherent hubris that we are somehow special or completely irreplaceable, but that’s for the most part not true.
and again this is just the start let’s revisit again in 2 to 3 years and I guarantee you might have a different outlook. But given your general commentary, it could be more pessimistic and that’s OK.
outer falcon
If you have a very limited understanding of human expression and emotion, as many engineering types do, for better or for worse, it's very easy to convince yourself of that
vague violet
OK, so you’re wanting to take this into some sort of personal attack which is not at all where I’m going I just find all this technology very interesting so we can just leave the conversation there. I don’t need to ad homonyms back-and-forth and some random discord. Thanks.
outer falcon
I'm not making it a personal attack, I'm talking about fundamental errors of perspective. There's nothing wrong with lacking that perception. But it's a massive social issue that people who lack this understanding fail to recognize their own limits and so instead impose them universally on everyone else, even if we don't share them
People have different strengths and that's fine
vague violet
The undercurrent of pedantry is really remarkable
outer falcon
Again, if you don't understand what I'm talking about, it may seem that way, and I don't blame you for that
vague violet
I understand you completely.
outer falcon
Like, if you don't understand the nature of Emily's objection in that article, you're missing something very fundamental about the way she's communicating that other people pick up on easily
If you think things like "she's afraid because they're catching up to us," it's a sign that you're not on that level
vague violet
but I wasn’t talking about Emily‘s objection in the article. I’m talking about the direction of the technology as a whole, and part of her response was indeed that she will be replaced or that a part of her industry will largely be replaced. The quality of that replacement is not something that I was discussing. Whether or not she objects this is the direction that we’re moving in and psychopaths as you put them and technocrats will push us in this direction regardless so it’s really up to artists and creatives how they deal with it and how much of this technology they incorporate and humanize. The question is not if it will happen but when into what degree. People’s emotive responses are largely unproductive to this process.
outer falcon
Replacing Hollywood implies there will be a similarly sized consumer mass market for these outputs and/or a similar degree of production quality
vague violet
so returning to my initial point, I believe that small independent studios or solo artists, who leverage art AI technologies creatively will be able to produce impressive works that can certainly stand head-to-head with anything produced by a technocrat or large studio
vague violet
Replacing Hollywood implies there will be a similarly sized consumer mass market...
you’re acting like YouTube shorts don’t have millions and millions of views and don’t occupy massive amounts of the attention economy. Now let’s keep in mind that I’m not advocating for these particular brands of entertainment. I think they’re rather grotesque and base. Even Microsoft lately said that Xbox was competing with YouTube or something ridiculous but they’re actually not incorrect.
glacial zinc
spark mural
sour oracle
outer falcon
tribal osprey
We wouldn’t be having this discussion if inferno wasn’t buffed
gilded mason
We wouldn’t be having this discussion if inferno wasn’t buffed<:FrogCoolCry:1342...
Imagine this whole thread wouldnt even exist
So many tears and smiles
Blood and sweat and salt
All gone
fallow hornet
outer falcon
The only people left playing this game are me and the whales
Just keep queueing into 4k point people or people stupid enough to buy the recolor of every unit
Merge the servers so I can match into the Chinese already
My 1 1 1 Mio stole 0 attack bar from an entire 0 effres team, I'm retiring
tribal osprey
The only people left playing this game are me and the whales <:speechless:139066...
You will be top 1 very soon
Keep going brother
outer falcon
I'm winning the marathon
undone vortex
I'm flip flopping in masters 3
sour oracle
I'm flip flopping in masters 3 <:deadpepe:740763730463293541>
i believe in you wuzzy
I have to stop meme drafting and actually push
undone vortex
i believe in you wuzzy
I DONT NEED YOUR PITY (unless u throw for me 
))
i think once i get aya up asnd running ill be in a way better spot
all these recent releases applying every debuff in the world smh
sour oracle
I DONT NEED YOUR PITY (unless u throw for me <:pbpeek:1337479970620182709>))
ill throw for you if we fight again
undone vortex
wym again
sour oracle
we’ve fought before lmao
undone vortex
whats ur ign
i needa go through my match history
see what kinda atrocities u committed against me
sour oracle
i needa go through my match history
whee4w
i think i was testing green chiaki that day
she’s fun but hard for me to use
light bough
undone vortex
green chaiki my pve savior goat
but idr going against a green chiaki
i rmb going against a nell and i rlly thought i was losing that game lol
light bough
there was a 346 spd nell. that just s2 a count liliam and one shot carry
outer falcon
She just takes so much fuckin time
light bough
i used ninfo aya fu combo
remote pollen
i think once i get aya up asnd running ill be in a way better spot
You have rahu mary holden tia
Not an excuse for throwing
Stop drafting children
We know u like children
undone vortex
We know u like children
um thats u
also i dont have rahu
thanks for ruining my NIGHT
by bringing that up
remote pollen
also i dont have rahu
I also dont sweety wuuzy
Tbh most low mythics rn are garbage lol i can literally pick same shit and win
Ofc there are a lot of time when i lose but we dont talk about that
remote pollen
and u lose a lot
Before mary my tia always get banned so 
Now only my mary get banned
ripe kraken
i need people to throw for me
Just like u throwed ur hair
undone vortex
projecting
ripe kraken
I saw some people offer piloting for etheria
open fable
How's the game?
spark mural
How's the game?<:pepethinking:1342091915679502417>
abandoned
warped dune
How's the game?<:pepethinking:1342091915679502417>
Hyped for new units
Ray is crazy tho
10/10
outer falcon
I need a fucking shell for my Aya
I got 0 non-currency nodes in cubic game today, I hope all devs get flat tires
graceful cradle
💀
I said it before and people memed using Twitch as a metric, but high viewership is one of the best metrics for a game's health
No one watches streams of a dead game
Sadly XD are taking their time like they have years to correct this trajectory but there's too much competition these days people just won't come back
spark mural
yeah the way they handled things the last 2 months was awful, and then just releasing new character wo background, no new content is just so lazy
ripe kraken
where did raymurry come from
Raymerry came from intense discussions between yeli and her officers
ivory yoke
where did raymurry come from
Raymerry is rc77's dad
light bough
should i ask whos the mom then?
gilded mason
should i ask whos the mom then? <:speechless:1390667321177018449>
Jackzzz
outer falcon
You can see from the fact that they were saying things in interviews like, "our other competitors are chibi graphics and 2d" that they didn't understand the scope of their competition at all
main elm
remote pollen
Another one of my mates quitted the game , sayonara night
Another week another player quit
At this point we have <20 mythic borders players
spark mural
Sad state of the game
chilly iron
This game don't wanna give me other 5star
I have got 3 Renova 2 kayron
spark mural
This game don't wanna give me other 5star
I have got 3 Renova 2 kayron
highly recommend to reroll if any other ssr caught your eye, really enjoying playing mai and hugo
chilly iron
I really like Renova so I ain't gonna reroll
main elm
Geyron
spark mural
I really like Renova so I ain't gonna reroll
chilly iron
And it's not like i can build every 5star i get
main elm
Gayron loves men so much that my friend got 4 gayron already
My account is male seeded
spark mural
My account is male seeded
ewwwww
main elm
ripe kraken
My account is male seeded
Dayumm
chilly iron
My account is male seeded
Men seems to like you a lot ,for me atleast Renova is there
ripe kraken
Men seems to like you a lot ,for me atleast Renova is there
That means in ur previous life u were owen
chilly iron
I haven't read the story , if I had read the story i might have become korean man and critise sg for ntr stuf
ripe kraken
I haven't read the story , if I had read the story i might have become korean ma...
Remember when meru was cucked she thought ras and arby were meant for each other so she kills arby and becomes archdemon herself (jk)
tiny sage
outer falcon
This is awesome
After the autistic character they're releasing the anxiety disorder character
I love their vision
loud locust
LOL
velvet drift
After the autistic character they're releasing the anxiety disorder character
the ai has copied a lot of wuwa because theres a tacet mark on her leg
ripe kraken
the ai has copied a lot of wuwa because theres a tacet mark on her leg
Cause it's a secret Collab to counter bruisers
old nexus
the ai has copied a lot of wuwa because theres a tacet mark on her leg
I mean, she also fights the lament, so ..
gilded mason
I mean, she also fights the lament, so .. <:FrogeJuice:1342090350029836358>
Ah she is talking about the death of unions
Due to players quitting
glacial zinc
splash art looks like dinah with all those swords
ripe kraken
Ah she is talking about the death of unions
She is talking deaths of pro players like rerollu
In etheria
outer falcon
splash art looks like dinah with all those swords
Also Plume. Wielding multiple flying swords is a pretty standard Chinese fantasy trope
glacial zinc
Also Plume. Wielding multiple flying swords is a pretty standard Chinese fantasy...
I knew i had seen it somewhere else
outer falcon
I don't like it tbh
sour oracle
Also Plume. Wielding multiple flying swords is a pretty standard Chinese fantasy...
i like plume’s tbh
glacial zinc
Would you prefer knives
sour oracle
the rest not as fond of
glacial zinc
Or guns
sour oracle
at least plume has the sword peacock thing going
outer falcon
They're less cool when they're floating in the air
sour oracle
why does this character have a bunch of flying swords, who knows
outer falcon
She's pursuing the great dao
sour oracle
She's pursuing the great dao
ngl if the story existed new girl’s trailer would be pretty cool
but no idea who she is or why we’re going to the far-shore
outer falcon
It's crazy how much random lore they shit into these previews with 0 context
sour oracle
It's crazy how much random lore they shit into these previews with 0 context
the lore channel is just gonna be trailer analysis atp
outer falcon
I thought it was just the Kokardi gooner fujoing out
sour oracle
I thought it was just the Kokardi gooner fujoing out
basically
they gotta feed my (wo?)man
They’re gonna go crazy analyzing pixels soon
graceful cradle
My account is male seeded
I pulled 2x Luke and wanted to seppuku then I pulled Vero and Rin
lunar wharf
The power of AI
charred minnow
glad I quit this game ;-;
seeing the feedback channel being the same old complaint list is amazing to see
main elm
outer falcon
What the hell are they doing, why are reapps and grinds an event lmao
If this takes up a slot instead of Chaku or Rilmocha I'm gonna lose it
wary eagle
If this takes up a slot instead of Chaku or Rilmocha I'm gonna lose it
both of those events are trash anyways, should always be a lattice event
outer falcon
both of those events are trash anyways, should always be a lattice event
They are but I won't let em get clawed back either
wary eagle
They are but I won't let em get clawed back either
it should happen tangentially ngl, chaku ring/mocha are all like mini events, we need the big ones that give lattices everytime or just new ones
spark mural
If this takes up a slot instead of Chaku or Rilmocha I'm gonna lose it
from what it seems will be another thing to add to charter? (the task phrasing gave me that) but who knows right
outer falcon
from what it seems will be another thing to add to charter? (the task phrasing g...
I'm confused because they call it an event but give no end date
spark mural
I'm confused because they call it an event but give no end date
on the twitter thing they called a feature
outer falcon
on the twitter thing they called a feature
Right but look at the bottom
outer falcon
They're gonna announce a new shell dungeon as an event next
wary eagle
i want shell forge not this whale bait
inland chasm
They're gonna announce a new shell dungeon as an event next
Limited op shell
But with a 0.1% chance to drop
outer falcon
Sure why not
Just spent an hour getting 10%'d multiple times in a row/watching my 280 res Doki not proc reaper against rev Freyas and Yelis like 10 times
I think cleave is fine actually
outer falcon
Like what the fuck is this
Not that it matters but the Yeli not procing def down afterward either is just 🤌
spark mural
Same guy, 10%ing with Yeli twice in a row
doki not resisting a green unit is something else
chilly iron
Like what the fuck is this
Give reaper to holden he will resist no need for er on him
I haven't played rta in a week
outer falcon
i'm about to get deranked down to masters 1
undone vortex
ohmagod barely made it
fallow hornet
ohmagod barely made it <:deadpepe:740763730463293541>
congrats
undone vortex
thanks daddy
fallow hornet
undone vortex
OMG GAME SAVED??
outer falcon
@tiny sage devs listened
spring yarrow
China bros, you must defeat rengo
undone vortex
but terror nerf is a goo dstart ig
spring yarrow
For Serra!
outer falcon
The Chinese will destroy Rengokutsu once and for all on our behalf
God bless the spirit of the revolution
undone vortex
i rmb cn had like a pve tier list
and it showed rilmocha as t1.5 against rengo lol
undone vortex
i donut watch zoxas
outer falcon
I don't either but I saw that one
undone vortex
wish i could still find it
ripe kraken
@tiny sage CCP won
gilded mason
No rengo havent nerfed
ripe kraken
No rengo havent nerfed
Everytime rengo nerf is mentioned
velvet drift
glacial zinc
https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-icemav-top-gun-maverick-top-gun-maverick-funeral-funeral-gif-26848803
outer falcon
They've done it again folks
spark mural
Another inferno nerf now we need to push for more<:7482uwucat1:13140796016720609...
that was just the chinese side asking for it
inland chasm
that was just the chinese side asking for it
Shhh just let us enjoy this victory
spark mural
Shhh just let us enjoy this victory<:pepethinking:1342091915679502417>
i mean the nerf is fine but global has nothing to give feedback anymore if they aren't going to listen to
inland chasm
I will just post everything on taptap china than
outer falcon
terror getting touched is so funny
inland chasm
Next is niconana
outer falcon
hire me
terror is still a nightmare until you get speed team gear
i was stuck on 3:30 terror until i could do :30 terror, there was no inbetween
glacial zinc
my aurora leapt from being victorious every now and then after 5 minutes to 99.9% victory rate with 30 seconds per fight
celest hollow
damn its a dead channel
main elm
too busy jorkin on CZN units
outer falcon
I went to go look for replays of the new units in the rta tool and there were only 2 games that used them
tribal osprey
thats pretty good ngl
zealous fjord
Navette is trash
slow lichen
Hmm
outer falcon
RTA is all about draft and misplays! Gear lattice and dupes don't matter! Meanwhile, Holden missing every strip and every s2 reset, Veronika missing every buff steal and having no CDs available because she needs 6 more lattices, Aya s3 isn't up when needed bc of lack of lattices
Luck and wealth diffs folks, they're more common than you might expect
Also this is the effect of Diting, ray, and cc strength in general on this dogshit meta. Not my game but
When's the last time you saw turn 77, early-mid last season?
The games all go like this now
spark mural
Also this is the effect of Diting, ray, and cc strength in general on this dogsh...
damn
outer falcon
damn
And if you close your eyes... Does it almost feel like you've been here befo-oooooore? How am I gonna be an OPtimist about thiiiiiiiis
fallow hornet
Also this is the effect of Diting, ray, and cc strength in general on this dogsh...
Rookie numbers
Ive done 40 mins matches
spark mural
And if you close your eyes... Does it almost feel like you've been here befo-ooo...
u need to outlast kekker graven u are the chosen one
outer falcon
RTA is all about draft and misplays! Gear lattice and dupes don't matter! Meanwh...
I think tia instead of Kokardi here maybe
glacial zinc
And if you close your eyes... Does it almost feel like you've been here befo-ooo...
Random bastille reference
spark mural
RTA is all about draft and misplays! Gear lattice and dupes don't matter! Meanwh...
its sad that i'm forced to draft ray otherwise the other side just slams ray fuqU
outer falcon
Random bastille reference<:pepethinking:1342091915679502417>
Always
outer falcon
its sad that i'm forced to draft ray otherwise the other side just slams ray fuq...
Dawg I hate her stupid ass
Everything about the current meta pisses me off
outer falcon
RTA is all about draft and misplays! Gear lattice and dupes don't matter! Meanwh...
I think tia instead of Kokardi was the pick here yeah
Tia still threatening but less likely to challenge his Rahu psychologically
spark mural
tia vs rahu is dupe/gear diff, my rahu refuses to proc def down every time
outer falcon
I think the tia would just be for softening up the rest of the comp and letting Holden + Roni handle the clean up
spring yarrow
its sad that i'm forced to draft ray otherwise the other side just slams ray fuq...
I'm perma banning her but that allows some scary mfs through the draft 
arghhh I need that 2x rn
spark mural
I'm perma banning her but that allows some scary mfs through the draft <:ICANT:1...
yeah, i refuse to let massiah slide
spark mural
and i thought they couldn't get even stingier with the rewards, this is worse than 12 star doki
spring yarrow
sour oracle
RTA is all about draft and misplays! Gear lattice and dupes don't matter! Meanwh...
you gotta make slow aya if s3 not maxed
otherwise codex aya all the way
outer falcon
Buddy don't you worry I have no speed in my account for an aya
outer falcon
She doesn't work as well in the mirror where her pulling first turn can be nice but that's ok
sour oracle
She doesn't work as well in the mirror where her pulling first turn can be nice ...
nah last in your lineup
she will give you second turn and more cc
outer falcon
She gets pushed up usually anyway
sour oracle
but i do this with celince/ray/ 3 turn cd units
cuz you mollywhop em super quick and they cant outheal you
outer falcon
I haven't been able to squeeze a Celly draft all day sadly
Meta's in a bad place down in masters
sour oracle
I haven't been able to squeeze a Celly draft all day sadly
celly in three. you have to believe in her toes mah boi
outer falcon
celly in three. you have to believe in her toes mah boi
I did it just now with ling after and they didn't even try to bring Aya or Sylph, bizarre
sour oracle
I did it just now with ling after and they didn't even try to bring Aya or Sylph...
people panic tbh
or dont realize how much forgetfulness disables
she’s a must-ban for a lot of bruiser drafts tbh, which is why i pick her on protect
takes more to work around her than anything else
outer falcon
I find when I protect her they just bring double or triple cleanse locking one if they can and then it's all over
sour oracle
I find when I protect her they just bring double or triple cleanse locking one i...
which ones are they bringing
because you should only be scared of sylph tbh
and pre-banning doki
outer falcon
because you should only be scared of sylph tbh
i'm scared of all of them, although maybe less so now that i put the acc module back on celly
i'm not sure how many games i played without it