inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[outer falcon]

Got my full rewards this week already so now I'm free

[latent iron]

im getting destroyed by cc with mass in draft

[outer falcon]

Mari is an absurd unit

I've actually never seen her miss a petrify even if she misses a res down

[fallow hornet]

should play her then

and youll see

i just miss mine on fuqui and i got soloed by a 5% holden with fuqui shield

[amber sinew]

crazy how this thread has the most engagement. FARMING stages are overtuned esp you rengo. they should transfer difficulty to other areas of the game. the devs have acknowledged this previously but idk if they ever plan to nerf bosses more for more consistent runs. given the rng, it's not like we can complete building characters in a week if they decide to nerf FARMING bosses. anyway, just giving this feedback again lol

[spark mural]

i don't think they care about these feedback threads that much tbh, game on maintenance mode and we haven't seen a qol in a month too

[outer falcon]

No QoL besides the launch event, no roadmap, no content, worse lattice disparity, worse event schedule

Mixed balance patch

[indigo oyster]

dip dip dip

[outer falcon]

Do you know if Paul fully quit the game?

[ripe kraken]

Ye

[outer falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bell-sao-bell-gif-26086947

[indigo oyster]

yes, we're playing 7 knight

[outer falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/never-a-good-sign-phil-hit-man-not-the-best-quite-ominous-gif-5338432254128249581

[tribal osprey]

They don’t care bro. They spent 5 years designing these bosses. They don’t want you to clear it in 5 weeks.

[spark mural]

https://tenor.com/view/genie-free-me-freedom-aladdin-youve-been-set-free-gif-12118740

[graceful cradle]

Yall still suffering

Just put that shit into maintenance mode, doing the bare minimum and come back later when shit is fixed

[spark mural]

coping til a new gacha comes around

[latent iron]

when shits fixed

this might take epic 7 years

[ripe kraken]

The fun fact is

They abandoned and now only care about monetization

[graceful cradle]

Seems like it yeah

[ripe kraken]

Devs and players

Both are on maintenance mode

[spark mural]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[ripe kraken]

This moment will become real for many in december

Don't worry they will do another relaunch in africa

[tribal osprey]

Ain’t no way people want bb buffed

[zinc bronze]

I never take those seriously

Let's be more tanky and deal more damage than full dps builds yes

[tribal osprey]

Fine if they get more tanking while dealing less damage

[spark mural]

might be my last 2x tbh

[ivory yoke]

Ur finally free🙏 🙏
Amen brother

[spark mural]

if u didn't spend u were behind but now u are so behind that doesn't matter spending on refreshing

[light bough]

funny how game motto was a place where f2ps and paid players can enjoy the game more equally.

should chg that to paid & "lucky" f2ps only.

[fallow hornet]

Those are clowns that this game has a lot of

Those are the ones probably defending tia and rahu damage

Like i dont see nerf tia and rahu dmg anywhere

[fallow hornet]

That and lattice limitation along with getting right shell combo and passive

Ive seen peeps here mainly bots glazing all these top players when in fact the pvp here is simple af no matter the playstyle

Only difference is the lattice and dupe investment that differentiate wat rank u are

Gear is important as well but dupe and lattice are just that much more op in this game that if u dont have lattice or dupes u aint competing

[graceful juniper]

Rerun?

[spark mural]

another filler week

[spark mural]

when i hear people saying that dupes don't matter on this game i know these people never saw the dmg difference between p5 > p1 on rta

[fallow hornet]

They should see the tourney

One clap of p5 tias wing and its gg for cleave

[spark mural]

exactly

[graceful juniper]

You can ask everything but nerf bruiser

Imagine complain about everyone dealt stupid dmg but when asked to nerf dmg dealt to any one who use BB and they jump on you

[ripe kraken]

Bb should make a animus immune to damage and only fixed damage can hurt them

[fallow hornet]

thats the state of this discord rn

some guy i think it was karuiga who said it was a circlejerk of bruiser players wanking each other and its so true lmao

[open fable]

Tbh as a brusier I do think maybe BB needs to be buffed and nerfed maybe. Decrease DMG dealt by 20percent increase DMG reduction by 5percent.

Or maybe higher DMG reduction

[old nexus]

careful m8, u might get nuked for speaking against majority

[open fable]

Also better DPS shells

[graceful juniper]

I have no problem with the dmg reduction,since bruiser will scale the fight to like 35 turn or smth...at that point the healer heal less unless its lingluo with stacked buff

It just they deal stupid dmg

[open fable]

Well game just does too much dmg

I think someone did testing and said 1.5k Def is the sweet spot cause after that the returns are minimal

And Def reduction can go only up to 900 or 700

[tribal osprey]

True. If they want to tank more then, then they can now tank. But now they do less damage

[ivory yoke]

Make pure dps do a bit more dmg as well

[open fable]

Not really I feel

I mean if you run Harvest Keen yeah

There is a reason people don't just run unbreakable

The DMG in this game is legit just wild

Perhaps better shells

There has to be a negative and positive I feel

But if you can run like Def break plus atk buff you should 90percent a units hp I feel

[ivory yoke]

I mean i got p5 mass with good stats and he doesnt one any bb unit in mythic, and usually he is pre banned anyways. Yeli doesnt do dmg for sht also, at least when shes not p5

Maybe a solution would be to release more strong rgb dps

Well i guess another solution could be to introduce more openers, then we just gotta wait for more units ig

[remote pollen]

NEXT LD BRUISER TRUST

[light bough]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-kaiaghost-gif-21256649

[remote pollen]

tbh theres not really a reason to release ld for pve anymore since no new content

[light bough]

[remote pollen]

i play this game for pve and pvp

[light bough]

diting lily ninfo plume all i need

[remote pollen]

but theres no pve anymore i feel empty feels like wanna quit

[light bough]

pve kinda just chore for now

[remote pollen]

abyss ember trek when

[light bough]

the ember trek is walking simulator

and the hard stages kinda get cleared with some weird trick

[indigo oyster]

When is can coming out

Czn

[remote pollen]

i just dot everything

got fucked by RNG on 43 tho so am not even in top 5

[light bough]

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

Just

[light bough]

im too lazy

still on floor 42

normal

[ripe kraken]

October 22

[remote pollen]

i still havent gotten my red rin lighthouse

[ivory yoke]

LFG

[remote pollen]

and strive artisan

[light bough]

dem. how r u still around

[remote pollen]

and gigabyte for sania

[remote pollen]

hes here until eos

[light bough]

big love for the drama community

[ripe kraken]

Yes

[light bough]

preparing for the upcoming extraordinary firework show.

[ripe kraken]

Yes in december

This new year gonna be fun

[warped dune]

i saw the gacha

i am good

[ripe kraken]

Another top 100 guild disbanded

XD

Spreading misninfo

[indigo oyster]

What’s it like

100 pity 50/50?

[ripe kraken]

Yes but every character goes to standard now

And u have a chance to get them

Even if u lose 50/50

[indigo oyster]

Ain’t that bad then, as long as it give many summons

[ripe kraken]

Except for Collab chars all characters will be available

[warped dune]

horrible, its like genshin i f i remember correctly

[ripe kraken]

In pool

[warped dune]

they dont

[ripe kraken]

They promised 200 summons for release for f2p

And u can buy

Character from shop

Whole character not dupes

[warped dune]

• weaponbanner

[indigo oyster]

Brah lol

Still gonna try it

[warped dune]

i mean same i am gonna try it out too

[ripe kraken]

Weapons will also be in pool anyways

[warped dune]

but they wont see a single dollar from me

[ripe kraken]

So it same

[warped dune]

i wont support that shit

disgusting gacha slop

[ivory yoke]

Its pve

[light bough]

ayy u guys still have much hope

for gacha games

[ivory yoke]

U dont need every character

[light bough]

think i lost mine

mostly same stuffs

[ripe kraken]

Also in czn 4 stars are very strong

[light bough]

and if its pve only even worse. like few months, KO

[ivory yoke]

Yup

[light bough]

chore

[ripe kraken]

Nah czn won't go eos

[light bough]

oh i mean myself

[ripe kraken]

Reverse 1999 survives still

[light bough]

cuz got bored

[open fable]

Usually 3.5k atk 400cdmg P5 Messiah 1 shots Def Brusiers

[light bough]

[ripe kraken]

[open fable]

Iirc

[ivory yoke]

I trust smilegate, i mean ER copied off E7 and still did a worse job

[ripe kraken]

Monetization wise I don't trust smile gate

[light bough]

ER devs got those corrupted marketing group

[ivory yoke]

No they dont, mines literally p5 380 crit 3.5k atm and probably brings them to 35-40% hp

At least they dont in mythic and mass pre banned all the time anyways

[ripe kraken]

[light bough]

that need to be demolished before they function well

[ripe kraken]

Let's see who stays until new year

[light bough]

2-3more months

surely

when is czn again?

[ripe kraken]

October 22

[ivory yoke]

22 oct

[light bough]

[ivory yoke]

DNA coming soon as well

[light bough]

thats like 2 weeks abit

stay strong ER

[ripe kraken]

28

[ivory yoke]

Yessir

[open fable]

I don't know. I usually preban him all the way to mythic so

Maybe I guess

[ivory yoke]

I know so😂

And yeli doesnt do much either

[light bough]

bbc

[open fable]

Yeli is fraud

Bgl

[ivory yoke]

LOL

Water rin more useful than yeli

[open fable]

But I've seen some Liliam 1shots tho

[light bough]

i use bonkne nowadays. either 1 claw death or swordfight with bruisers

[ivory yoke]

Liliam one shot one unit proceeds to get tapped by other 3😂

[light bough]

yea i draft many dd when vs liliam

[ivory yoke]

Whats dd

Daddy?

Oh damage dealer

LOL

[light bough]

aite daddy works

daddy holden daddy borgne

havent tried kokhardi

[open fable]

I guess it's cause T1 has too many niche units and not even units that does other thinks

[ivory yoke]

Daddy kok?

[light bough]

tjats kinda

sus

[ivory yoke]

Hahaha

[warped dune]

ER wont eos it has a niche playerbase which they always targeted

[light bough]

[ivory yoke]

They wont EOS cause look at SOC, their other game.

They might end up with 1000 players tho jkjk

[light bough]

RTA enjoyers

[ripe kraken]

Soc isn't pvp only game though

This game is pvp only

[ivory yoke]

Hmm yea

Idk man

[warped dune]

The thing is

Getting to the point where you are overpowered and clear every pve content with ease is absolutely aids but when you survived that torture you just que rta 24/7

i literally played 8 hours rta yesterday

[ivory yoke]

I played rta, climbed to mythic, and now im just in maintenance mode till next season😂, assuming they dont release new content till then

[ripe kraken]

U forgot about decay

[ivory yoke]

Im at 3200

Ill play 1 game every 5 days, just to maintain

[untold cipher]

i don't think ER will EoS, but, SoC has better events, and Spirals of Destiny has some good stories for story enjoyers, and man, the ER devs need to tap the SoC devs to get them to do their story... if they ever continue it.

[ivory yoke]

I c

Well i mean the devs aint even listening to top guilds for weeks lol

[quaint kiln]

the story of ER launch is more interesting than the ingame story

[ivory yoke]

So i doubt they gonna do that

[warped dune]

i think they had different priorities than story or events

[quaint kiln]

if this game makes a comeback, thats a banger story

[ivory yoke]

If their priority is pvp they mess that up too, cause top guilds been complaining abt the score system for weeks without reply.

Top 2 guilds just clashed, both wiped each other, both lost points

[quaint kiln]

but the new packs tho

sybau and buy gem 🥀

[ivory yoke]

Yes we get new "events" with prowess event

[quaint kiln]

top guilds arent shareholder level 💀

[ivory yoke]

Sean im building nahor now

Ur foresight is remarkable

[quaint kiln]

u think im winning?

[ripe kraken]

Idk

[ivory yoke]

Depends on innate 10%

[quaint kiln]

0 bulwark its free

[ivory yoke]

Linglou gonna resist and kill u

Linglou solo

Ye u got it lol

[quaint kiln]

we gud

[ivory yoke]

Sick stuff

[quaint kiln]

this so ahh

[ivory yoke]

Gg😂

[quaint kiln]

[ivory yoke]

Just draft hein instead?

Lock mio

[quaint kiln]

cant even play the 1 mode available in game

[ivory yoke]

Hehe

[quaint kiln]

gotta change name to some random japanese letters

[frozen stone]

Are you guys still on the marathon

🥀

[ivory yoke]

Na im not gonna run for another 2 months

Hit mythic done and dusted till reset

[quaint kiln]

why isnt there

mythic 1-2-3

[ivory yoke]

Pls nooo

Maybe u need to pay 100 USD to unlock mythic 2 and 500 USD to unlock mythic 3

[frozen stone]

📉

What was during the spike?

[ivory yoke]

CN,KR,JP release

[quaint kiln]

*global

[ivory yoke]

Ah my apologies

[warped dune]

imagine you are up against sean and bann his nahor

insane

[quaint kiln]

[ivory yoke]

@quaint kiln whats the lattice on ur mio? Im thinking of building her

[quaint kiln]

5 - 5 - 1

[ivory yoke]

Ooo ok thank u

[warped dune]

my rahu is 1-1-1

but has 5 dupes

call me based

[remote pollen]

naawhore banned

seanb doomed

[quaint kiln]

my rank is fluid

[remote pollen]

meanwhile me losing coz i pick 4 healer and xiada and play 10 min game

[ivory yoke]

Sick stuff bro

[quaint kiln]

so many massi cleaver

i need more amber

[ivory yoke]

Keep up the content man

[quaint kiln]

but now i gotta stop playing to farm x2

[ivory yoke]

Enjoyed it

[warped dune]

i am in school now

let me snipe sean in rta que real quick

[quaint kiln]

leave my nahore a lone

🌞

[warped dune]

[ivory yoke]

Has anyone tried borgne as a stripper

Cause he wouldnt proc reaper

I know mia being used as stripper but what abt borgne

[quaint kiln]

strip without buff or turn influence

is just asking to be cut

and lose

[ivory yoke]

Hmm true

[quaint kiln]

10 matches 7 preban nahor

time to retire from rta

[ivory yoke]

Too popular alr bro

Time to change name

[ripe kraken]

Time to change name to pringles

[warped dune]

change name to "donotbannahorpls"

[quaint kiln]

bro baited me

i oneshotted Tsutomu thru bloodbath

maybe BB is not OP

[warped dune]

liliam is just crazy good in those kind of matches

[quaint kiln]

they even first pick him now

what is this shit

[warped dune]

yooo u cooked no ?

or u cut ?

[undone vortex]

they said nowhore

[quaint kiln]

i got cooked

ofc

[warped dune]

the moment i see sean

https://gyazo.com/993c0f0da8d045cfd017aaf2f521d169

on 3

ez

[old nexus]

100 gems to change name to SeanC

[ivory yoke]

Dont worry bro ill first pick nahor if i fight u even if my nahor isnt built

[quaint kiln]

Plz stop and pick massiah like every body else

[orchid needle]

the cooler global

according to XD

[outer falcon]

Sometimes in fearless when you can just kinda tell someone is a scrub you can get away with first picking mass and Yeli and then they bring out the Rilmocha Diting on you and you just tank it out with your one bruiser and one healer

[latent iron]

if i see diting in fearless i just surrender

feeling bad for those guys

[errant mountain]

Can diting not one shot a bruiser

Lmao

🥀

Oh wait yea he doesnt

Diting hits roughly 50k iirc

[latent iron]

whens he taking a turn anyway

probably never

[errant mountain]

And bruisers are in that ballpark with bb

[errant mountain]

Tbf in a 10+ minute tank matchup he's bound to get a good shot at it (assuming the other player doesn't have holden)

[latent iron]

i mean if he isn't on bb he just dies to a single blow of the wind

dont even need holden

[errant mountain]

Oh shit yea

He needs bb to live bruiser damahe

Then hes not even hitting for 50k

Less than

And then ur just not killing

[ripe kraken]

Bb this bb that even though everyone complains about bb they need a bb in life

[outer falcon]

A properly buffed and built Harvest Diting can do something funny but these ain't those

[sour oracle]

yea he can

[sour oracle]

he needs bb to live ANY damage lol

diting only good in snipe cc type of team

[fallen venture]

Rdy for testing

[spark mural]

diting can kill things w tiger

[fallen venture]

Naa he suck with any shell

[outer falcon]

Tiger harvest Furyedge probably the only option ueah

But it's not real anyway

Do not try to force your Koks where they do not belong, brothers, it will only end poorly for you

[spark mural]

tia rahu abuser

https://tenor.com/view/well-done-jeremiah-johnson-good-gif-25626389

[outer falcon]

I would've been a more honest man (Borgne abuser) but they decided the bull's hind legs were less worrisome than THE HORNS 😈

Also Mio provoked 3 bramble procs turn 1

It was unbelievable

[spark mural]

wtf

can't wait spend an hour doing this for some shards (this week there was only 1 lattice on shop)

if theres no xiada event its barely 2 this week

[light bough]

[undone vortex]

i just want them to release cage rumble

and witness the reaction from new players

[clear gulch]

anyone here from asia and can tell how their player base feeling about ER

[remote pollen]

lily abuser saying kok dont belong there bruh

[outer falcon]

She was necessary to take him

[remote pollen]

until someone picks cc

[outer falcon]

He had Mio

[remote pollen]

Mio dont count useless after 2 turn in a cock game

[outer falcon]

She didn't even land her blocks

[remote pollen]

Unless its ronnys kok

Ronny kok is so good

[outer falcon]

Count Kokula looking purdy

Shotty has a monster as well

I still don't have enough XP to 6* mine, I'm cooked

[remote pollen]

Everyone has a monster kok

Mine is ass 🍆

Xd

I swear if next unit name is somewhat related to kok or cock ill quit

[outer falcon]

monkey's paw finger curls next unit will be a shirtless slutty man named Pu Si

[remote pollen]

[latent iron]

can a kok be strong if not p5

[outer falcon]

Depends what you mean by strong I think

If you ask a whale probably not

[latent iron]

for picking in mythic+

[sour oracle]

yea it’s just drafting at that point

obviously more prowess, more scary it is

[latent iron]

well dont know why i asked cuz i have 3 lattice and hes def not a first priority

[tribal osprey]

You should always prioritize your Kok

[outer falcon]

I got back into Masters in the funniest way possible

[tribal osprey]

Why did you harrass their kok?

[outer falcon]

You could say I was Borgne for their Kok

[tribal osprey]

They didnt upgrade their kok's damage resis

[outer falcon]

I don't think it would have saved him

If he was on bb maybe

[tribal osprey]

he would have if he was on bb

so we need to buff bb even more

[outer falcon]

He would have died in the next couple of turns anyway

[undone vortex]

KOK

[tribal osprey]

bro is straight up just running all bruiser

did he ban holden or something?

[outer falcon]

I banned Holden, he banned Fuqiu

Plume Lily pre-ban

I don't think Kok had any damage left with Viper in the mix, def buffs on everyone from Rahu, and Tia sharing

So I was comfortable going raw aggro

[graceful juniper]

He forces his kok on you

[graceful cradle]

I've said this a few times before the pvp is a lot more simplified than SW or E7

[outer falcon]

On one hand it's super boring compared to SW

On the other hand, ban protect and pre ban are cool, and no vio

[graceful cradle]

Mhm it's the same ban system as E7 just we have 2 prebans

But now we also have that crazy rotational frenzy too

[sour oracle]

lack of units

and no spd leads

[outer falcon]

Yeah

[sour oracle]

well really no imprint/leader skill

Makes drafting kinda 1:1

and the order you place things less important

ban protect ofc but you get what i mean

[outer falcon]

I can see why they left it out

They don't seem to have the ability to balance scaling already

[sour oracle]

yea plume and liliam would run laps around everyone

if hellkid/borgne had spd leads lmao

[tribal osprey]

Messiah resistance lead

[fallow hornet]

Nah thats why i wanted to play this game and make it my main one since there is less rng

but the amount of rng aside from dual is also bs in this game

im doing gw in e7 rn and so much rng its bs

this game gonna be complex once they release more characters like e7

and the clown at e7 dont know what balance is and these clowns at xd are following their example

After lady of shit, femboy ras and dodge queen shitsuka came my guild are playing even less gw

[ripe kraken]

Yes but by the time complex char come how much playerbase will be left

[fallow hornet]

i dont really care about the number of playerbase

nor do i care about revenue

if i start caring about the revenue about the games i play or i stopped then im miserable

im not the company employee or ceo

that i need to care about the revenue or playerbase

ill just quit this game if i feel bored and look for another one

[ripe kraken]

U need some players atleast in reality for matchmaking

Otherwise the bots inflation will be high

The season 1 of bb meta

Already showed the disinterest

[gilded mason]

Star sailor is coming

[fallow hornet]

i dont really care about how the game is doing in terms of revenue which i find it strange

[gilded mason]

[ripe kraken]

I am playing in jp server

[gilded mason]

Not star savior

Star sailor

From com2us the creators of summoners war

The star savior killer

[fallow hornet]

genshin and hoyo players are the main peeps i see use the term revenue or how the game is no 1 to justify the game is great to convince everyone to play

[ripe kraken]

I am telling more of rta participation impact when players feel bored out of the game

After rev nerf we saw

How long matchmaking went

[fallow hornet]

i just keep it real with the games i play

[ripe kraken]

Many experienced it

[gilded mason]

Revenue doesnt equate to a game being good tbh

[fallow hornet]

yeah

nor does the ranking

[gilded mason]

Its just how well the game can bait people to buy shit

And other factors

[fallow hornet]

I didnt play e7 cause it had a good revenue or higher rank in playstore

[gilded mason]

Like hoyo games have high revenue because of the large playerbase

Who are character collectors

[fallow hornet]

I just played it cause i was amazed by the animation

[ripe kraken]

Ye

[fallow hornet]

Gacha gamers didnt have a large ego until genshit came

[ripe kraken]

True

[gilded mason]

I dont really consider genshit a true gacha game

[ripe kraken]

Imo gacha as a genre will get very diluted in like upcoming months

[gilded mason]

Its just a meh action hack and slash with a gacha banner

[ripe kraken]

So the approach of no gacha suddenly is getting noticed

And criticized

[gilded mason]

Its good that these genshit clones remove the gacha

[ripe kraken]

Like people hate ananta and duet night abyss so much when they removed gacha

[gilded mason]

Then they wont be grouped with gacha games anymore

[ripe kraken]

Yes

[gilded mason]

Because gambling is fun for them

[ripe kraken]

Ye but their point is without gacha

A game will take lot of time

To get stuff

Cause now they have to grind

[fallow hornet]

i think sony took over

[ripe kraken]

Like the point is only grind for what u fcking want

[fallow hornet]

sony is sponsoring that game so they took out the gacha

gonna be like gta 5 online

[ripe kraken]

U don't need to grind entire fcking roster

Ye

It will be fun af

A breath of fresh air

[fallow hornet]

Hard to say

it just looks like gta

[ripe kraken]

They can do 9 weeks patches

[fallow hornet]

the initial trailer was good but the more i see gameplay the more i feel like its sony greatest hits combined

[ripe kraken]

Yes

I mean u won't play it daily

Cause there is no gacha so dailies will be mediocre

U just boot it up when u want to

[fallow hornet]

its still too early to talk about the game when it wont be released until next year

besides i dont like open world gacha games

u have to do shit manually

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

[fallow hornet]

can just call it a AAA game instead of gacha

[ripe kraken]

Maybe I will call it double AA

[fallow hornet]

I see peeps mainly utubers say ananta will change gacha games

like dawg thats not a gacha game

these clickbaiting mfers dont even know the definition of gacha

[ripe kraken]

Yes maybe their pov is non gacha games entrance in the market

Will ignite passion for other companies to take bold steps

To make non gacha games as well

[fallow hornet]

"Gacha" refers to a mechanic in games where players spend in-game or real money to receive random virtual items, like characters or weapons, from a virtual capsule machine, similar to Japanese gachapon vending machines.

The utubers need to google but putting catching titles like non gacha gacha game = more clicks

i see stix shilling hard for a game thats not even out

[ripe kraken]

XD

They want to hit the gacha audience with these videos

Since gacha enthusiasts

Go everywhere

To protect their games

It's a fish bait

[fallow hornet]

even youtube has gone to shit with creators using ai thumbnails more and more

[gilded mason]

Yeah i hate genshit and genshit clones

[fallow hornet]

yeah those games arent even gacha games cause you have to play it mostly on pc

rather than mobile

[gilded mason]

Open world should stick to being open world without gacha

Stay in your lane bud

[fallow hornet]

Yeah

the open world formula is just ass

[gilded mason]

Dont ruin gacha game rep

[fallow hornet]

ubisoft has cooked the open world market where the devs just make open world game and make it empty or having u do fetch quests

[gilded mason]

Gacha game is either idle dogshit p2w or etheria e7 sw rsl style

[fallow hornet]

yeah

[gilded mason]

Not genshit

[fallow hornet]

the idle shit is boring af

[sour oracle]

More sw types por favor

[gilded mason]

Fak genshit

[gilded mason]

There are actually a lot

[sour oracle]

i wish there was a gacha as balanced as sw without all the rng nonsense lmao

[gilded mason]

But most ded

[spark mural]

gensh- 🤮

[sour oracle]

i mean active ofc

[gilded mason]

Not many lasted past 3 years

Raid shadow legends

[sour oracle]

yea raid is the worst of all of them SOMEHOW

[gilded mason]

Monster super league

Its still alive

[sour oracle]

you ever played raid before? godawful experience

[spark mural]

western devs

[fallow hornet]

Never have i seen a more pushed game in the gacha market

Back in the early days when raid was everywhere

Everyone and their mothers were sponsored by raid

[gilded mason]

Yeah its average-mediocre

[sour oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/raid-shadow-legends-raid-youtube-my-son-is-choking-my-son-loves-raid-shadow-legends-gif-26054945

[ripe kraken]

Raid lives cause of marketing

[gilded mason]

But lots of people actually .play it

It makes like 5x what etheria makes

Western audience keepin it alive

[sour oracle]

yea their marketing budget must be infinite

[fallow hornet]

Which is why im surprised when peeps say they play raid shadow legends

I thought it was a meme

[sour oracle]

I know gacha holds people hostage

but being addicted to raid is the most down-bad

[gilded mason]

Its a meme but its still a playable gacha game that caters to western audience

[sour oracle]

it’s like being addicted to huffing spray paint fumes

[fallow hornet]

Ive seen about too many raid ads than ive played games and i still dont want to play raid lol

[gilded mason]

Typically western audience arent interested in anime style games

Like etheria and e7

[fallow hornet]

The AAA market has gone to shit man

[gilded mason]

Raid uses liek WoW type chars

[fallow hornet]

Ive seeing sony cinematic slop games getting praised to kingdom come

[gilded mason]

Games go to shit because people let it

Even if shit they still buy it

[ripe kraken]

And then there was concord

[fallow hornet]

Some of the Sony games have so much cinematics that id rather watch the gameplay than play it

[gilded mason]

So game dev make more

[ivory yoke]

Where did most of the ER sponsored youtubers go😂

[gilded mason]

Arent they still around

[ivory yoke]

Like gachasmack etc.

[fallow hornet]

Gachasmack is a hoyo shill

[ivory yoke]

Na they got the bag and dashed from the marriage

[ripe kraken]

Gachasmack and pokke stopped covering etheria

[gilded mason]

This game may be the one volkin played the longest

[fallow hornet]

He was sponsored to play the game for 2 months then dipped

[ripe kraken]

Long ago

After the cc match

Posted one video

And gg

[gilded mason]

Volkin still playing etheria apparently

Im shocked

[fallow hornet]

Yeah

[ripe kraken]

Volkin contract is always restablished

[spark mural]

isnt smack just afraid of kurobot crowd?

[ripe kraken]

Cause they use him as commentator as well

[fallow hornet]

Like i watched some of his videos so i knew him from back then

Every new gacha i tried volkin would have a video

[gilded mason]

Yeah volkin is deep in cuz he getting paid the moolah

[fallow hornet]

So im surprised he stayed this long for etheria

[gilded mason]

Once they stop paying he'll be gone

[ivory yoke]

They must be paying them well cause the CCs are doing the communication as well😂

[fallow hornet]

Just like gacha smack

[gilded mason]

Why they didnt keep.paying gacha smack

[ripe kraken]

But they don't create drama

While exiting

[spark mural]

ty etheria for sponsoring this video (literally all videos about etheria)

[gilded mason]

Volkin etheria vids usually 5k views, but the video for TNMT collab in raid got 45k views lol

[fallow hornet]

Bro when i saw his state of er video i was expecting him to point out the flaws but when he started saying the pve gave him a good time compared to genshin i was like wtf
Then i went to his channel and i saw he is a hoyo shill so it made sense

[ivory yoke]

Prolly paid not to talk sht as well

[ripe kraken]

Isn't etheria pve rn just ember trek rally and shells

[gilded mason]

If you paid you cant talk shit

[ivory yoke]

Yea lol

[fallow hornet]

Considering sponsors pay more than views, they cant cut off their main source of income

Braxophone must be really mad when he made the er bad video

Since they didn't sponsor him

[gilded mason]

Lol

He told the truth tho

[ripe kraken]

Actually brax doesn't care much

About sponsorships

These days

[gilded mason]

He was right on like most of what he said

[ripe kraken]

He is more busy irl

[graceful cradle]

2nd half of that vid was pure misinformation

[gilded mason]

Etheria is a 2019 game released in 2025

[graceful cradle]

Telling the truth is stretching it

[fallow hornet]

I was like damn this guy just being petty and must have never played a pvp gacha game and then i see he is another hoyo shill

[ivory yoke]

Yea he was right
And we know that when they literally said
"Including lily" for the global launch LD selector😂

[wary eagle]

they needa stop sponsoring 100 ccs 😭

[graceful cradle]

He had some good points and then some horrible takes based off of literal lack of effort

[gilded mason]

They defo know what they doing

[ivory yoke]

Yea

[fallow hornet]

If he played e7 and sw then i feel like his review would be same minus the animation part for e7

[graceful cradle]

That said the white knights defending the shit state ER released in trying to compare it to E7 Year 1

[fallow hornet]

He didnt play a pvp gacha game before and its shows on his content

Whem these guys mainly get paid to play genshin and hoyo via views and sponsors

[ripe kraken]

The white knights are now in reverse lol

[graceful cradle]

It's like why would you willingly choose to drag yourself through broken glass when you've seen E7 and SW improve the obviously shitty things

Trying to defend that is even more delusional

[ripe kraken]

Then by that means return to etheria after it improves

[ivory yoke]

They spent a lot of money, they dont want the risk of EOS when the game is in a shtty state

[ripe kraken]

Like other games

[graceful cradle]

Those people were idiots and I always made sure to let them know

[gilded mason]

There arent anymore white knights

General chat is dead

[graceful cradle]

Like.that one fool I still have blocked here

[ripe kraken]

There are only newbies now

[graceful cradle]

There is one

He still talks

[gilded mason]

All thats left is just depressed farmers and some newbs asking what team to make

[fallow hornet]

Tbf the gen chat of any gacha games are casuals in general

[ripe kraken]

Gen chat became tinder

[fallow hornet]

I have never chatted in any of the gen chat in any server besides here

[ripe kraken]

If u guys go now

A woman posted her pics

[fallow hornet]

And here i have to do cause the game system is trash

[graceful cradle]

You should see Gbf discord

Its all giga sweats

[fallow hornet]

I havent played that so im only saying for games ive played

Like e7, cs, fgo and nikkee

[ivory yoke]

I actually dont think newbies will stay long too, when i started playing in June i was already overwhelmed by lattice shortage in july

Imagine those starting now with the pace at which they are releasing characters. Sure they might clear pve faster with better characters. But when they step into summit😂
Theres a bunch of ppl from day 1 who have more characters built but just cant be bothered to RTA

[gilded mason]

Pretty sure the sender isnt the woman in thr pic

[ripe kraken]

Hmm

[gilded mason]

Yup they aint gonna last

Discord numbers have stopped climbing

[spark mural]

lmao

[gilded mason]

And started dropping again

No 100k i guess

[ripe kraken]

Resurgence of 3 k

[fallow hornet]

Here peeps even the hardcore players are forced to come talk cause so many issues with this game and lack of communication
And guild recruitment is harder here than any game i played

[ripe kraken]

Back to same path

[spark mural]

i just wanted the discord100k again 😭

[gilded mason]

Nah fam

[fallow hornet]

You can see that with the lack of fanart in reddit

[gilded mason]

Whos making fanart for this game lol

[ivory yoke]

In mythic, a lot of ppl alr have multiple playstyles built. These guys buy every single lattice package from day 1 so they can afford to do that. For me, im limited to 1 playstyle cause how few lattice we get, they just pick whatever i have and ive lost alr lol

[fallow hornet]

Causals are the main peeps who want story and fanart

[gilded mason]

No one cares about the chars

[fallow hornet]

And the er reddit is just asking questions

[gilded mason]

All they see is skills

[spark mural]

they could even throw us some qol patchs to feel we are heading somewhere but nah, after the loadout thing and 2 other patches thats all they got

[fallow hornet]

No actual content

Other than questions or essay

[ivory yoke]

Im just gonna stay in the 3100-3300 range

[ripe kraken]

I mean u guys got monetization patches right

U wanted monetization to do well

[sour oracle]

i’m waiting to see what ER does for their first big patch tbh

[fallow hornet]

Even the ld selector didnt do anything it feels like

[ripe kraken]

But when is it

[fallow hornet]

When the major problems are ignored

[sour oracle]

yea exactly

[ivory yoke]

They honestly could monetize skins so much more

But they are so lazy

Like yeli skin was actually decent

I bought that sht

[spark mural]

what gets me the most is that the "events" still have the rng rewards they removed only from dreamscape, shell story, the cubic game, the meme card shit and call of champions are dogshit bc of rng reward

[ivory yoke]

Theres even discord ppl making skins as well

Like bruh

[fallow hornet]

See the latest yeli skin
I love yeli but the lack of effort on the skins with the recolor shows they got monkeys running in the dev team

[spark mural]

only ones that are somewhat fair are the train and cage, but u need to have a bunch of shit built

[fallow hornet]

The 20 dollar yeli skin looks like she just got slapped by pink

And xd called it a day

[sour oracle]

sw has the best skins out of all of these ngl

[spark mural]

premium recolor

[fallow hornet]

Counterside

[sour oracle]

even most e7 skins are mid af

[spark mural]

azur lane clears

[fallow hornet]

Some of the rta skins are good but yeah even e7 has shown lack of effort in the skin side

[old nexus]

the problem more like they really design the game to become niche, by not adding more story or pve contents, to accomodate those who don't enjoy pvp that much

[fallow hornet]

I would have agreed with you had it not been chibi

[ripe kraken]

Also e7 baiting choose a ml u want mystic summon again

And release another broken ml

Right after that

[sour oracle]

i mean idgaf about more pve, but lack of story is hella bizarre lol

[spark mural]

yeah ingame is a whole different thing

[undone vortex]

yea why make a story and then ignore it lol

[sour oracle]

i dont care about the story either

[gilded mason]

To grab casuals

[sour oracle]

but weird it hasnt been expanded at all

[undone vortex]

it's like they wanted to lure the hsr casual fanbase and then left them

once they got over 7 MILLION REGISTERED HYPERLINKERS

[gilded mason]

I doubt there will be anymore story. If there is it will take a long time. Their prio is the pvp and the roster for it

[fallow hornet]

True the story would give a reason for casuals to connect and make fan art but instead the "story" is an essay and who reads in the great 2025

[undone vortex]

clearly not including rerollers

[fallow hornet]

[undone vortex]

yea

[ivory yoke]

Like rta pass rewards could be replaced with rewards like 1 gold lattice instead of skins and they could make actual skins like yeli skin and monetize the sht outta that

[undone vortex]

the story is just very like

basic

[gilded mason]

With all the tournaments and shit the focus is pvp

[ivory yoke]

Idk what their team is on

[fallow hornet]

The story is simply straight ass

[gilded mason]

Yah who even wants more of this story

[undone vortex]

story drops a lot of new terms from the jump

[gilded mason]

Makes no sense.

[fallow hornet]

Even the casuals who like mid slop aint talking about the story

[undone vortex]

and then it jumps from dungeon to dungeon

[gilded mason]

Its an AI generated story

[undone vortex]

hellkid shows up randomly

dokidoki wants to ressurect her mentor

then no more story

[sour oracle]

nah rta rewards are fine ngl

[ripe kraken]

And we have to save sania

[sour oracle]

they did that part right

[ripe kraken]

[gilded mason]

They say people.uploaded their consciousness to etheria to escape the world being frozen, but you have the mc sitiing in his apartment chilling. What does he eat?

[fallow hornet]

I love yeli the most in this game cause of her voice and design and even i dont care enough to learn about who she is

[undone vortex]

he eats ass

[gilded mason]

Why even bother going into etheria at all

[old nexus]

who are here know that doki2 real name is actually lindelle, and her "doki2" physical body is actually taken from other girl? lmaoo

[sour oracle]

yo can we get an update to the apartment

[gilded mason]

Whats the point

[sour oracle]

id buy an apartment skin

[fallow hornet]

I didnt know mio was sister of ninofiel

[sour oracle]

nyc studio apartment skin

[gilded mason]

Garbo story is garbo

[graceful cradle]

I just like to remind people I have level 1 Plmue just chilling to tilt them

[fallow hornet]

I thought batsby was ninofiel bro who had a fish buttplug

[graceful cradle]

That's my new joy in ER

[undone vortex]

XD seems incompetent when it comes to making something creative without ai lol

[sour oracle]

i mean i dont expect the story to be good pr make any mf sense

[graceful cradle]

Have Plume Lily Yeli, don't even play anymore

[sour oracle]

but i expect it to be there

[fallow hornet]

A lot of games have been using ai

[gilded mason]

It is there

[fallow hornet]

Which is just sad to see

[gilded mason]

[old nexus]

what? lmaoo

[sour oracle]

Yall know kurururu is actually heinrich clone?

[graceful cradle]

I didn't know that Lilith and Hein were siblings either

[fallow hornet]

Even sg who i praise for their animation and visuals got caught using ai

[undone vortex]

kururu is Heinrich

not the clone

[sour oracle]

he’s actually heinrich?

[undone vortex]

yea

[sour oracle]

man wtf

[ripe kraken]

Obviously

[undone vortex]

he accepted being experimented on by no41 and rc

[fallow hornet]

I learned it from here

[ripe kraken]

Idk how Lilith failed

[undone vortex]

then Lilith and the protag interrupted it so rc released kururu and dipped

[fallow hornet]

I dont even know what the fuck the mcs do in this game

[ripe kraken]

Mc where just made to walk in ember trek and be in lobby

[sour oracle]

i know that blonde girl wouldnt stop yapping

[ripe kraken]

Let's be real

[undone vortex]

blonde girl is like

[fallow hornet]

Who?

The fmc?

[undone vortex]

a navigator

maggie

[ripe kraken]

Maggi

[fallow hornet]

Lol i dont even know her name

[undone vortex]

Sybil alt when

[sour oracle]

Also what’s up with the random-ass bank faction

why are they in a bank

[ripe kraken]

When lilliam dies

[sour oracle]

who are they giving loans to

what is happening

[undone vortex]

ik the bank had like

something to do with that fight club lol

they had ties to messiah

[sour oracle]

oh i see

[ripe kraken]

They funded that tournament

[gilded mason]

Dual mortgage

[ripe kraken]

And fund illegal activities

[sour oracle]

Wuzzy is er historian

[ripe kraken]

In bar

[gilded mason]

Dual mortgage ninfoniel

[undone vortex]

kraken was their ambassador

[fallow hornet]

Their naming sense has got to be some of the shittiest ive seen

[old nexus]

she's kinda cute tbh lmao more than female mc

[fallow hornet]

Fuqui nawhore

[gilded mason]

Prolly ai

[undone vortex]

fmc is not very good looking yea

COCKHARDI

[fallow hornet]

Yeah

Looks like generic bg character

[sour oracle]

nah big black Kokardi is numbah 1 name

[undone vortex]

the coconut hair certainly

doesn't help

[fallow hornet]

Im waiting for a unit called bob

[undone vortex]

so far they have mia and mio who are both CHILDREN

who's next

[sour oracle]

and he’ll be released alongside Jan

[old nexus]

so what is the real beef between yeli and holden tho?

[undone vortex]

miu

they have beef lmao?

[sour oracle]

was yeli even in the story yet

[undone vortex]

no

none of the new releases are in the story

this also includes chars that were added into cbt3

like marvell, Rosa, rilmocha, etc

[sour oracle]

What’s hellkids deal

he becomes rengo right

[undone vortex]

hellkid is like the leader of leiboz life

[gilded mason]

Generic villain

[old nexus]

yes in yeli's pv lol

[undone vortex]

he's tryna make the perfect like

[fallow hornet]

I thought lindele was a new character until someone pointed out its the beetch we fight in phantom theatre

[undone vortex]

animus I think?

[gilded mason]

What the fk is leiboz life

[undone vortex]

they doing experimenting to be powerful like all the other

evil organizations

that's why they experimented on sania

[sour oracle]

You gotta explain the factions

[undone vortex]

and hein

[sour oracle]

they are words but of an alien tongue

[ripe kraken]

Eos best faction hands down

[old nexus]

I can only answer, the one that you bet in champions call lmao

[ivory yoke]

Nothing wrong with current rta pass rewards. Im saying that they couldve monetized better by selling the actual proper skins instead. And replaced rta rewards with something more of tangible value.

Instead their current monetization is to give p2w players half of the lattices they need to max a character. Which just makes the disparity humungous.

I go into mythic rta with only enough lattices to build one playstyle and others have all 3 built

[fallow hornet]

I commend u for actually learning about the lore, i read some of it and im like this is shit

[undone vortex]

yea I can confidently say

the story is not good lol

basically there's 4 different arcs and they are all detached

[sour oracle]

i mean.. this is literally what whales were asking for tbh

[undone vortex]

from each other

they are barely connected

[fallow hornet]

Shells and lattice gotta be the most shit thing in the game rn and i thought economy was the worst one lmao

[sour oracle]

Nah all that i could forgive

the UI is terrible

[fallow hornet]

None of the openers are even usuable without +3 lettuce on s1 which is sad

[sour oracle]

you try managing modules and building animus?

shit is terrible

[ivory yoke]

P2w players can lattice 3-4 as much units as f2p

Which is terrible for the game

[fallow hornet]

Yeah

[ivory yoke]

All the f2p will climb, and leave

[fallow hornet]

The pass and other things add up

[sour oracle]

who tf designed the system that you gotta go to a SEPARATE menu to sell modules when building your character

what sense does that make

[fallow hornet]

On god

[ivory yoke]

Im literally getting beaten by people who play different playstyles cause they got my characters built as well and just steal it from me

[fallow hornet]

And the shell system is a pain to remove now that there is pvp and pve slot

[spark mural]

im registering this week lattice income and so far we got 1 lattice from etherena and 15 frags from union

[sour oracle]

this is just good drafting tbh

[ivory yoke]

What are u on

I dont have the reources to build another playstyle dude

[fallow hornet]

If i want to imprint a new shell i need to go to both pve and pvp slots to remove that shit

[sour oracle]

Stealing an opponents box so they can’t use it is just good draft strategy

just as you ban opponent core

[ivory yoke]

The guy was playing bruiser and he just whipped out all the cleave units

[sour oracle]

you steal theirs

[fallow hornet]

This is what the bruiser players dont get

[old nexus]

reminder that we gonna have another lnd in 2 weeks lmao

[ivory yoke]

I DONT HAVE LATTICE TO BUILD THEIR UNITS.

[sour oracle]

bruisers do it to bruisers too

ban rahu, then double pick tia/holden

[fallow hornet]

Like the other guy was telling me to take tiamat and ban rahu and easy game
When i prebanned tiamat in the first place

[sour oracle]

i mean that’s just how these games work the higher you go

[fallow hornet]

The more feedback threads i read the more I see clown takes

[sour oracle]

you’re expected to have more stuff built to stay competitive

[ivory yoke]

These guys whip out rahu tiamat holden plume fuqiu sania

And then when i play them again they whip out freya tsuki beyontin mass l

[ivory yoke]

I mean ur gonna have a reply for everything so i aint gonna say anything

[sour oracle]

and then to do that, you spend more

That’s the monetization they chose to do

same with sw/e7

[ivory yoke]

Like i said being able to build characters 4 times as fast with money is gonna ruin the game

Well i guess as long as whales live its fine

[sour oracle]

you’ll never have enough resources to build everything at same level/rate as omega consistent spenders

[ivory yoke]

They have a niche audience after all

[sour oracle]

and spenders DEMAND that it’s structured that way

[ivory yoke]

4x the speed is madness tho.

[sour oracle]

otherwise, why tf spend?

but even in that vein

[ivory yoke]

Well even when they catering to the whales, they aint fixing guild war problem😂

[sour oracle]

this game pretty f2p friendly. More lattice income would help tho

[ivory yoke]

Top guild members leaving

[sour oracle]

yea idk why they didnt update guild stuff yet

[fallow hornet]

Thats what i dont understand the glaze these top players get when the pvp is simple af and the difference is the dupe and lattice investment

[sour oracle]

it’s a cool system but so clunky

[ivory yoke]

I agree

[spark mural]

it would be fine if the f2p could also get some lattice to build stuff, but the last weeks we got even less free latices

[ivory yoke]

Yea these past few weeks were less

I seen chaku ring and ratmocha event so often

[fallow hornet]

In the tourney i wasnt seeing anything unique or interesting, just players exchanging plume, tia, rahu and fuqui

[ivory yoke]

Yea a lot of bruisers, need more variety for cleave

[spark mural]

chaku ring on repeat, no xiada event, other events still rng shards

[sour oracle]

we dont have enough characters to do interesting stuff with yet

[fallow hornet]

Even the fucking commentators were tired of seeing bruisers especially tia and rahu

[sour oracle]

there’s only 1 water bruiser, 1 and a half fire bruisers, and 2 wind ones

[ivory yoke]

Yea but they are all good

[sour oracle]

so i mean, if any of those get stolen, what do you do lmao

[ivory yoke]

Only good cleave is mess

[sour oracle]

compare to sw where uou can have 15 units at any time fill in any role

[ivory yoke]

Yeli dont do dmg 😂

[sour oracle]

or e7 in similar boat

[fallow hornet]

Yeli damage is just sad to see

And good cleave is max dupe massiah

[ivory yoke]

Maybe p5 yeli does damage but hey i dont got the money

[spark mural]

the rta people were saying that there was different strats on this tourney bro everyone was picking bruiser and thats it, 1 game someone took mio and lost

[sour oracle]

She does damage, but she has easier to build counters

[fallow hornet]

If u dont have no dupe massiah u just tickling them

[sour oracle]

so easier to reduce it

[ivory yoke]

The LD takes 3x the amount of animus points to buy from shop but the RGB more op😂

[sour oracle]

you’re eating a mass smack in the head whether you like it or not

[fallow hornet]

All i saw was fuqui, rahu, tiamat, lingluo and plume

[ivory yoke]

Yea

[fallow hornet]

Every game

[open fable]

Srryi can't read

[spark mural]

np

[ivory yoke]

If they nerf rahu and tiamat, we will see more variety in rta, cause then itll be balanced

But if they nerf them, the biggest whales just gonna quit😂. So instead theymake them stronger by nerfing codex etc

[sour oracle]

I mean

[spark mural]

the thing is, i doubt they ever nerf tia

[undone vortex]

eh idk t2 still has the most flexibility out of the 3 playstyles

[sour oracle]

like i said they are the only viable bruiser dps

[spark mural]

they are scared of handing resets after the last one

[sour oracle]

youll just go back to spam healer turn meter games

[undone vortex]

like think about the amount of options bruisers have vs cleave or cc

[ivory yoke]

As if cleave has many options lol

[sour oracle]

give us more dps options

[spark mural]

even tho all players would benefit from it, the company would take a hit

[fallow hornet]

So many options right now

[sour oracle]

and give cleave more snipe units

[undone vortex]

and the last update bumped it up by 4 (celi, xiada, borgne, red rin)

[sour oracle]

and bruisers still have very little options within that ngl lol