inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[graceful cradle]

I think at that point was when I dropped lole $6k on T&L

[fallow hornet]

i also lost my account back

[graceful cradle]

Had to get an Archboss

[fallow hornet]

i was dealing with irl issues so didnt care about the game or any game

werent u in contact with ur guildies tho?

[graceful cradle]

I could start again but like then I'll just he annoyed since I spent way more money in CS than in ER

[fallow hornet]

since i assume you spend on that account

[graceful cradle]

Nah Eden drops games the second too many lose interest

[fallow hornet]

cs was niche tho

[graceful cradle]

So at the time I was just holding the guild for us

[fallow hornet]

only reason i played was cause ydcb was playing

and i wanted a new game

[graceful cradle]

Yeah I dumped a couple grand in

[fallow hornet]

for the skins?

[graceful cradle]

I was playing cuz Kurando told me about it

[fallow hornet]

i know they had some good packs there

[graceful cradle]

Nah I was a whale in Eden lol

[fallow hornet]

bought the ticket packs

[graceful cradle]

We were competing vs Scarlet

[fallow hornet]

in cs?

[graceful cradle]

Mhm

[fallow hornet]

nice, i was casual so didnt really play rta

[graceful cradle]

The RTA was so much fun but we had shorter meta windows than KR did

[fallow hornet]

it was hard to learn about the game since i was busy with work

[graceful cradle]

So like we never really got the period where Na Yubin and ASY were like T0 for months

Honestly I loved the global ban system i hope more gachas will adopt something similar in the future

[fallow hornet]

i forgot who asy was, was it the girl in the trio?

[graceful cradle]

Awakened Yuna Springfield

[fallow hornet]

the lady with eyepatch i remember

[graceful cradle]

Oo that was uhhh

[fallow hornet]

oh yeah she was busted

[graceful cradle]

Jisoo I think or something like that

[fallow hornet]

forget it lol the names are hard af to remember

i forgot all the names lol

so you must have stopped during the awakened roselyn banner

that loli with the chair i forgot name of

https://tenor.com/view/counterside-loli-anime-waifu-rosaria-gif-22663880

[graceful cradle]

I remember specifically ASY and ALSY which was the eyepatch one

[fallow hornet]

i think she was the last one before global transfer

[graceful cradle]

And Horizon + Hilde hard carried me

[fallow hornet]

oh yeah Horizon was op

the white hair girl

https://tenor.com/view/counterside-hilde-horizon-gif-27429889

[graceful cradle]

Wait really? I came back and pulled Awakened Rosaria before I uninstalled again LOL

[fallow hornet]

i may be remembering it wrong

its been a long time since i last played it

[graceful cradle]

Yup these two exactly if you deployed them it was so hard to lose until Lyud came out

Yeah i was waiting for the Awakened Chifuyu and forgot

[fallow hornet]

She was there i remember

Was it the sister with big boobs or the flat one?

[graceful cradle]

Mhm i needed a rerun cuz i missed her first banner and big booba one

[fallow hornet]

I remember pitying the demon one with big booba

[graceful cradle]

Yeah she was busted too but like could still lose to mecha rush

[fallow hornet]

Yeah there was that mecha meta

Whats that guy name

[graceful cradle]

Shit was toxic man

[fallow hornet]

The one with horse

[graceful cradle]

And only Horizon could really save us and ooo uhhh

[fallow hornet]

Yeah the meta got toxic later on

[graceful cradle]

Damn gimme a sec

[fallow hornet]

looks like this one was the last awakened before global transfer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4EzQ6q7leM&ab_channel=CounterSideGlobal

yeah i remember this one was the last one before transfer

[graceful cradle]

Oh yeah I never even seen her

[fallow hornet]

she was that masked knight ssr

[fallow hornet]

awakened version of this

mors

[graceful cradle]

Fk it I'll make a new global account why not

[graceful cradle]

Talk about a glow up too

[vital arrow]

That’s sick, what’s that from?

The counterside game?

[fallow hornet]

yeah even i didnt believe this mors was the girl in awakened form

[fallow hornet]

yes

same studio who is gonna make star saviour

[graceful cradle]

I blame you for all of this i hope you know LOL

[viral dune]

Maestra is still the best waifu there in CS

[vital arrow]

I’m super looking fwd to SS. CS is that tower defense type game right? Where ur like dropping in units as shit walks towards ur base?

[viral dune]

Thats not tower defense

[fallow hornet]

7 cost

[graceful cradle]

That's a funny way to say Levia Tan

[fallow hornet]

You deploy units from battleships so its battleship vs ship

[viral dune]

The way she walks slowly and then standing there menacing is so cool too.

[vital arrow]

The usual tag for games like that is still “tower defense”

[vital arrow]

Gotcha

[viral dune]

For real? I thot tower def is like AK

[fallow hornet]

I dont know how to describe it but its kind of like tower defense

[vital arrow]

Yea I could never get into games like that personally, the character designs are beautiful tho

[fallow hornet]

You have one side vs another side

[vital arrow]

Usually the AppStore tags them as TD

[fallow hornet]

Their skin game and visuals are

[vital arrow]

I get they’re a diff branch of the genre tho

[fallow hornet]

https://youtu.be/c0Z9MoyREEE?si=vP43rhJ7TEcAeLoV

Watch this

But yeah i dont think ull like it

[viral dune]

Nah, CS not marked as TD in playstore.

[fallow hornet]

Since its not turn based

[viral dune]

Its like idle strategy game tbh

Like kings raid

[fallow hornet]

Its like tank vs tank game u used to play on pc

https://tenor.com/view/pocket-tanks-pocket-tanks-game-classic-gif-3712590055403723973

[vital arrow]

Ahh yea I see it w rpg tag, maybe I was thinkin of somethin else lol. I’ve always considered it a TD game but yea ur right. More of a Kings Raid type game. I just never cared for the unit summoning aspect. I like setting up static team comps and investing in individual units and all that. Like KR was dope af imo

[main elm]

Damn I know we love competitive games but being top 8 as a country that small with 1.5mil pop is mind blowing

[errant mountain]

If you pulled schniel he solos (can use destina to assist if ur gear sucks)

Cant really help beyond that

Since schniel was one of my first 5 stars

[fallow hornet]

Scheniel mort bellona vivan solos

Thats a no lose team

[fallow hornet]

I think he can get it from the 7th anni part 1 selector

Idk if its still running for new players

[errant mountain]

It is possible, but i doubt schniel is worth a selector. Afaik his only uses are banshee and as a ddr counter

[fallow hornet]

True

I dont use him outside banshee

[graceful cradle]

Basically you want to time deployments like in Arknights except that there's a lot more deployment overall in the span of a match due to the game being designed with Arena and RTA in mind and your towers aka ships also have skills passives and abilities so it's more like E7 in that regard to where it's very strategic vs say like Arknights (though the pve is pretty tower defense like i suppose)

They ain't escaping these allegations lol

@main elm

3 fingers on the one hand

[main elm]

saw it 💀

shit is doomed

and they want skins, yeah good luck buddies

tbh even the AI model they using is shit, this art might have been decent maybe 15 years ago ?

I can make way better AI than this...

[zinc bronze]

oh shit didn't even notice her fingers

💀

[viral dune]

I thot she was a puppet

Then her in game model has 5

So its confirmed AI

How did they not notice such basic mistake

Like, you should already know that AI has trouble in drawing fingers

[twilit vault]

shows how much they care about it

the level of quality control we've come to expect at this point

[undone vortex]

yea asshu has 2 different arts

Lilith has 2 different arts

[main elm]

Different AI model so not everything will become copy paste

I use AI art myself I know what they are doing

Though my concern is why use a shit model idk

[twilit vault]

dont worry the ai prompts will balance out in the end

next animus will have 6 fingers to compensate

[sour oracle]

lowkey

them making monsters will turn out better

monster wearing traditional chinese dress

[outer falcon]

already back up to 111 summons after Nympho and Batman teamed up to drain me completely

not bad

[undone vortex]

the ai models will have fun in 2 years

[orchid needle]

Just wait October

[orchid needle]

The craziest part is they could just put in an extra like 10 minutes inpainting her hand and generating a fix

[spring yarrow]

lowkey regretting the batman pulls

[floral shuttle]

maybe he will be broken with Plume?

[zinc bronze]

wtf are these clear times on trek 43

[outer falcon]

Maybe I should be saving up for dupes or wishbinder instead in the future but I'm happy getting 1 of every banner for now

Will I ever use him, maybe not, but I don't think it hurts to have

[outer falcon]

That's f2p god gaming in action

[zinc bronze]

I don't even have rahu or tiamat to replicate this

[outer falcon]

I have Tiamat I guess but I'm not sure I have the gear to do even these clears

[zinc bronze]

Everyones on bloodbath

[outer falcon]

Yeah

That's a fuckload of modules

[zinc bronze]

I might not actually do this like phoebe last time

[outer falcon]

I didn't even do Astarte last time

Or rather couldn't

Idk I tried 4 times

[zinc bronze]

I finished astarte

[outer falcon]

No patience

[zinc bronze]

Good thing 42 is clock lady

now

I tried it

Once

[outer falcon]

I don't think I can do her either, unlikely to outspeed with a cc unit

[zinc bronze]

I used xiada, lily, ling, vice, red cachi

If you clear first wave of mobs and provoke lock her she does nothing

[outer falcon]

Twin trick vice?

[zinc bronze]

Didn't even need to

I twin tricked xiada

Vice should be on BB tho to be safe

Also jackal to cycle fast

[outer falcon]

I tried red Rin with bb but couldn't keep the adds locked so the combined damage shattered her lmao

I'll have to grind all of hard out this week

[zinc bronze]

I just finished it an hour ago

It's been 3 trek rotations, still haven't rolled the red shadowprint

[graceful juniper]

the clock boss is easy if you have xiada

[zinc bronze]

I think red cachi is a better cc for this

[graceful juniper]

💪

[zinc bronze]

Stun is better

[outer falcon]

Oh I brought obol

I just couldn't kill the adds in time

[zinc bronze]

What dps did you use?

[outer falcon]

Xiada

[zinc bronze]

Hmm

[errant mountain]

HAHA A FUCKING HOUR

me when the devs think fun PvE is full sustains/supports and tiamat

[outer falcon]

I did beat her in the end last time

I just anticipate not being able to beat her this time

[errant mountain]

Fucking lingluo fuqiu lily tiamat sania

full sustain

and then tiamat

[zinc bronze]

Yeah 42 just have higher stats

[errant mountain]

for dps

[zinc bronze]

I just one tried astarte

Coz she on lower floor

[errant mountain]

theres 40 abyss floors btw

[outer falcon]

Ooh I thought you meant Astarte 42 last time

[errant mountain]

the final one should not be taking more than 15-20 minutes at max

theres fucking 40 abyss floors why is each one taking an hour

[outer falcon]

Each of the even sub boss floors takes me like ten full minutes with non Sania dot cc bullshit

[zinc bronze]

Not me abusing ssania dot teams for mini bosses

Well, I'm not gonna even try 43

I just hope they don't put sharon on 42 next rotation

1 phase bosses are fine

I keep getting dupes on standard, I'm still looking for rahu

[gilded mason]

Im so hyped for plume

[zinc bronze]

Same

I'll build both

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sike-sikes-gif-25526664

[zinc bronze]

AI girl and plume

yo

[gilded mason]

Fuk plume

[zinc bronze]

I got baited

[gilded mason]

Sug ma balls

[zinc bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-muahahaha-evil-laugh-gif-4482837

[naive wave]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1414292026672812103

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-flabbergasted-robert-herjavec-dragons'-den-i'm-surprised-i'm-astonished-gif-7381074270245866211

[floral shuttle]

new module boss is Khloros.. possible red boss? Maybe not too bad of a pull??

[floral shuttle]

Thats me with Rahu Tia Viper + 2 healers full auto

[spring yarrow]

copefully this will be his chance to shine

[viral dune]

Inb4 immune to debuff

[graceful juniper]

That just sharon

[ripe kraken]

Hey batsby was sharon killer

He was showed in his pv against sharon

[tribal osprey]

Help was on the way

[ripe kraken]

But the stretcher got blasted

While it was arriving

[viral dune]

Cant wait for a specifically designed unit to crush Khloros

[outer falcon]

i just got dupe shells in one 10-run of Hoyan

i-

[gilded mason]

Help is on the way

Try them with batsby

[rich badge]

btw khloros unlocks at level 100

inferno rengo unlocked at level 55 i believe

so...

[gilded mason]

[zinc bronze]

Just don't make it RNG pls

[gilded mason]

The level 55 was from before they buffed inferno

They didnt bother changing it

[gilded mason]

You know its gonna be rng

[zinc bronze]

If it is, then they're just psychopaths

[calm jasper]

Lvl 100 means twice the RNG of rngoku

[indigo oyster]

its all of the shell boss combined into one

😂

[zinc bronze]

Imagine if he has invincibility buff that needs a mechanic to dispel

[calm jasper]

Dw these new units are sure to crush max Clorox

Try them with Messiah!

[tribal osprey]

how do you know this

[indigo oyster]

it say on the post

[errant mountain]

LMAO

inferno unlocks at 50

[tribal osprey]

thats the funny thing

[errant mountain]

and thats hell

[tribal osprey]

I dont read the posts

[errant mountain]

imagine that boss

[gilded mason]

Etheria devs dont know how to introduce fun mechanics. They only know how to put cc and counter on their pve mobs

[errant mountain]

Yea the game design of etheria

kinda sucks

[zinc bronze]

and strip + cc into trek mechanic

[errant mountain]

at leat the pve does

*least

as for the pvp I never really got to play it

[indigo oyster]

time to go back to play HSR

[calm jasper]

Pvp used to be fun

[gilded mason]

Funny thing for ember trek, usually you would feel better if you were getting buffs for your own units instead of having to choose nerfs for yourself and buffs for enemy lmao

[zinc bronze]

First trek mechanic: Stun
Current trek mechanic: Strip>HP% reduce>Stun

[calm jasper]

Now it's just 4 healers or bruisers slog

[indigo oyster]

cleave is rising since last 2 week

[tribal osprey]

what comp? massiah?

ngl I dont see it tbh

[indigo oyster]

yeah

[zinc bronze]

Yeah, want to see some cleave comps

[indigo oyster]

it so cancer

[tribal osprey]

idk I just installed to get plume and did the tournament thing

no massiah

[zinc bronze]

So just draft around massiah ban protect?

[tribal osprey]

like the only thing I see is bruiser or all healer

[zinc bronze]

Same, never saw massiah on my fearless

[tribal osprey]

so idk where this cleave is rising

[indigo oyster]

u build red rin to counter the cleave

[zinc bronze]

But I do see some people speed contesting me

But usually on first and 2nd rounds

Finals is like 80% bruiser drafts

For me

[calm jasper]

^

[indigo oyster]

her shield is giga

[zinc bronze]

Maybe cleave will truly rise when plume releases

[tribal osprey]

when is she out

[errant mountain]

Thing with plume is if shes that good for cleave

they can just preban plume

[zinc bronze]

Thursday in china

[tribal osprey]

isnt cn first banner yeli?

[zinc bronze]

Yeah

[errant mountain]

they really are just gonna give CN all the good shit arent they

lmao

[zinc bronze]

that leaves heinrich open

[errant mountain]

oh bruiser players actually need the preban?

Hein is the block/healblock guy right

[zinc bronze]

Yeah

[tribal osprey]

he is a guy alright

[zinc bronze]

I'm gonna pick him on selector

[errant mountain]

Wait

there are poeplehere

who still play the game?

[zinc bronze]

I play the minimum

Just in case

[errant mountain]

I thought this was the thread where the non-etheria players come to shit on etheria

oh nah dude its joever

just give up

[indigo oyster]

yeah to make thier progression faster

[errant mountain]

its been cooked for a while

[zinc bronze]

I still shit on it don't worry

[errant mountain]

Instead of, god forbid, nerfing the PvE

They will nerf PvE for CN

im calling it

they will fucking nerf pve

for CN

[tribal osprey]

crazy how they start with yeli and lily

[errant mountain]

100%

[zinc bronze]

I still play worthwile gachas

[errant mountain]

The only gacha im playing rn is e7

[zinc bronze]

I'm playing wuwa and e7

[errant mountain]

I heard about e7 from a dude who If ound from etheria beta

and hes talking about it and whatnot and im like

eh etherias shit lets try e7

and its fun so fuck it im playing e7 now

[zinc bronze]

e7 has so many good QoLs

Like all you need to do is plan accordingly

[errant mountain]

E7 has a lot of really dated systems and stupid shit though

Like the sweep feature is RIGHT FUCKING THERE WHY CAN WE JUST NOT MAKE IT UNLIMITED

THE DEVS EVEN SAID

[zinc bronze]

Yeah it's not perfect, but it's better than others

[errant mountain]

THEY WANTED TO CUT DOWN ON MENIAL PLAYTIME

SO WHY CAN WE NOT JUST

MAKE SWEEUP INFINITE

ITS ALREADY IN THE GAME MANNNNNNN

[zinc bronze]

You can buy for 50 gems

[errant mountain]

Real

also idk how good the equip history is for most people

but for me I just dont like it

I still have to constantly shift gear around

[zinc bronze]

They should enable background farming

[errant mountain]

I'd just prefer normal presets

[graceful juniper]

People preban massiah tho if dont want vs cleave

[errant mountain]

WHere you can close it like etheria? Still doesn't solve the issue

the issue is you have to babysit the game for a few hours to get the mats

rather than just

getting them

[graceful juniper]

So they can sell you their gem duh

[zinc bronze]

I think they just set it to 10 because that's all you need to hit daily rewards

Like do 10 hunts then 5 arena

then your dailies are done

[graceful juniper]

Its solve the issue that the game doesnt held my device hostage

[fallow hornet]

pair them up with plume to crush kholoros

[zinc bronze]

Also quite annoying when I have to switch from my phone to pc

[errant mountain]

Ok but 200 stam is not all you get

The cap was like 170 before they increased it

and that was less than 24 hours of stam

+free stam for arena points/friendship/daily shop stam

and whatnot

[zinc bronze]

Haven't check how many you get per day

[errant mountain]

it's 4 or 5m per stam

[zinc bronze]

You can watch ads for stam, but I don't do it

The events tab gives you a few stams too

Too lazy to check

[naive wave]

4m

So you get 360 daily

I never watch the ads for free stam
Already got way too much daily

[ripe kraken]

Frieren vs khloros this battle will be legendary

[viral dune]

The problem about the sweep in E7 is when they pair it with stupid events that force you to afk farming and let your device overheat because the sweep amount is limited. Like the 800 stamina spend they have right now and G.Ras grinding.

And they stopped doing additional free 10x swep from epic dash.

[ripe kraken]

They should have made the additional 10 x stay there

In name of different

Event

Like daily help

[pure junco]

Oh yeah it's E7 chat now huh

[warped dune]

The only good part about E7 are the Visuals. Mic drop.

[solid moat]

yes

idk if this is too slow but i think 150 spd is fine

since 50cr push

[pure junco]

And that's why you're an adept

[tiny sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2abaC4Dh0k AI Slop but good video

[latent iron]

cleave is alr pretty strong, almost every top t2 player is prebanning massiah if they face cleave/unknown player bc he kills everything

[graceful juniper]

"already strong" where this strong is the only dps cleave they can pick is massiah

Yea lmao

[latent iron]

what? next patch you can either oneshot with mass or strip def break with plume and kill with anything, thats the point

[graceful juniper]

what? just because def break exist doesnt mean shit with BB,even yeli cant do it

[main elm]

He still "Adept"ing to ER being shit

[latent iron]

im assuming you play a lot of rta to type that or you're just arguing for the sake of argue?

[twilit vault]

https://tenor.com/view/sickburn-burn-gif-14522658

[graceful juniper]

wdym....i try to def break into yeli with attack buff and i dont cleave them...tell me who to pick then?

[warped dune]

I dont think its shit rather the opposite i have a lot of fun playing it

[main elm]

Keep enjoying it while it lasts

[latent iron]

you mix in cc with cleave, strip+def break in one unit means she frees up 1 slot for your team for cc/pushback/another dps + plume provides bonus damage to everyone whos debuffed

[graceful juniper]

yea but plume is not here yet...current state of cleave is not already strong like what you state,atleast with plume i think its getting better

[latent iron]

thats why im saying with her it might be too strong

for players with fully invested cleave/cc teams

[graceful juniper]

for this i will not claim anything yet....but all i see rn cleave can have more option with her added to the roster

[ripe kraken]

Did he leave server?

No hyperlinker role

[graceful juniper]

nah he just block you

[gilded mason]

[ripe kraken]

Ah I see

White knight

But silent

[viral dune]

You can just hold click his message and see if you can react to it. If you can't then you got blocked.

[warped dune]

Cleave is ass right now

standalone massiah or yeli are not enough to kill a bruiser team

and most of the time if u play rev units like freya or heinrich into holden tiamat, they just counter and OS your units

its beyond dumb

[graceful juniper]

yea hate how braindead bruiser rn...just go 2 healer+2 bruiser + 1 flex,hard to punish them

[warped dune]

The upcomming units are insane tho

they will shake up the meta

[graceful juniper]

yes...cc and cleave can have 1 more must ban pick,i hope it atleast make bruiser to think what to pick instead the usual

[warped dune]

first pick feels also very weak

like insanely weak xD

[graceful juniper]

true...they dont even care if you pick lily

[sour oracle]

tbf

no cleave in these games should be accessible to just solo dps

that would be beyond broken

usually you mix your cleave with cc, or have such insane gear you just nuke someone outright

[tribal osprey]

Even multiple DPS is hard to cleave down

[warped dune]

what u mean, an atk buff + defense down should OS a bruiser

[graceful juniper]

imo currently 2 cleave just not good since healer can cut after 1st cleave and heal back the cleave dmg man

[warped dune]

i can tell u for sure my sania with defense down will survive a massiah s3 if he has atk buff and that shouldnt be the case

[sour oracle]

Most use double push/reset teams

with cc

so even if they cut, most are already close to dead enough that you clean up

[sour oracle]

mass doesnt get much benefit from def down like other units

[outer falcon]

Def down doesn't mean much to Massiah either way unless you're built with full def. Def can't be reduced below like 900 and he'll ignore to that level ez every time

[graceful juniper]

other unit cant even 1 shot with def down...like bro

you need def down+ extra buff other than atk like ninfo

[sour oracle]

beyontin, cachi, dokidoki for the run back etc

thats why it gets mixed with cc so you reduce chance of being cut

You also need max dupes in your units to cleave effectively

thats why most “healthy” ( using this term very liberally) have cleave comps be more whale oriented

[graceful juniper]

if you pick cc,you bet anyone who has dokidoki will pivot to pick dokidoki

[sour oracle]

which is fair/balanced because then you just nerf the most pressing issues

[graceful juniper]

and dokidoki doesnt reset your shell cd...no she doesnt help cleave just because she reset your unit cd

[sour oracle]

also you can ban whatever unit is cucking you the most

so it’s back and forth

[graceful juniper]

bruiser can ban massiah and they can go braindead pick,meanwhile cleave and cc can ban either tia/kazuto/holden/hell even viper and there will still problem

[sour oracle]

There’s still a problem if mass is banned

heinrich, mio etc and harder cc pivot

[graceful juniper]

then they can first pick dokidoki and ban mio(on pick phase)...or they can first pick freya,she is fast if you have swiftsmite+bulwark+any 3rd swift

[sour oracle]

But bruisers are necessary as they are because the damage multipliers are insane. they should nerf healing for sure, and scale back some damage across the bosrd

well that’s just back and forth counterplay. That’s supposed to happen imo

but everything is a bit skronked and overtuned

[graceful juniper]

well this back and forth is not equal because bruiser have more leeway compare to cleave and cc currently

[tribal osprey]

So you’re saying, cleave gets countered by 1 ban

[sour oracle]

no

i mean if someone bans tia, then hard-picks a bunch of true/ignore def damage

you’ll have to pivot as a bruiser too

or if youre cc and someone bans heinrich, youll pivot a bit as a cc

[tribal osprey]

Isn’t that just massiah? Or am I missing something

[sour oracle]

revelation is true damage

[tribal osprey]

You don’t need to worry about revelation as bruiser

[sour oracle]

harvest count builds also ignore defense

Revelation does a ton of damage to bruiser

[tribal osprey]

Where

[sour oracle]

it does less than before, but it’s still a significant amount

everywhere

[tribal osprey]

I have yeli on full damage revelation and she barely gets them to a third ho

Followed by Holden one shoting her

[sour oracle]

Is your yeli max duped?

[tribal osprey]

No. But their Holden isn’t either

[sour oracle]

I mean.. youre missing 30+ % damage

[tribal osprey]

So I need to be maxed out but they don’t?

Got it

[sour oracle]

Yea

thats how cleave traditionally works

why it’s whale-gated

bruisers are more accessible, and let more casuals enter the pvp space

cleave metas shut them out

circa season 0 revelation spam

but this meta is also toxic, need to nerf healing for sure

and add more cleansing units that are pvp viable

[tribal osprey]

Rev was already countered in s0

[sour oracle]

in the highest ranks

not the mid-tier ranks where it mattered

[tribal osprey]

It was

[sour oracle]

that’s the majority of where you want your active playerbase

[sour oracle]

It wasn’t devs admitted it because they changed it lmao

If it was easily countered they wouldnt have gone and nerfed it so hard obviously

[tribal osprey]

No. They admitted they changed it cause players kept complaining

[sour oracle]

and why were they complaining?

[tribal osprey]

Cause rengo wasn’t nurfed

[sour oracle]

you keep seeing the point and jumping around it

[tribal osprey]

It literally was counterable with lighthouse and bloodbath

You didn’t need high end stats either

[sour oracle]

I mean rev yelis are still wooshing plats and mid-ranks with rev

imagine it with 30% more damage across the board

[tribal osprey]

I can. It was countered hard

[sour oracle]

i built everything on damage -, have a few fully prowess units

she still can hit maybe 45-50% health easily

30% no atk buff

Have you seen some of the mythic yeli/mass cleaves

they’re still nuking 50k+ bruisers

merely a prowess difference

[tribal osprey]

So they need maxed prowess to work but it works in mid range where people don’t have maxed prowess?

[sour oracle]

yea because of no pre-ban in mid range

[tribal osprey]

Wdym diamond should be mid range

[sour oracle]

so easier to get the full wombo combo in drafts

upper-mid i suppose yea

but it’s hard-gated

[turbid ridge]

drafting cleave is harder without pre ban. You end up with mass and yeli in your comp which is alrdy 2 picks. ban mass and yeli is ass vs a million counters

[sour oracle]

playing in diamond+ has been wayyy easier than start to plat

[sour oracle]

you mean with?

[turbid ridge]

no i mean without pre ban and ban protect its ahrder for cleave in my opinion

[sour oracle]

lily > yeli/mass/blue rin > freya/tsuki/beyo/dokidoki > cc. you should lap most bruisers tbh

[turbid ridge]

you forced 2 spots for dps alrdy

[tribal osprey]

No

[turbid ridge]

you end up with either no mass or 2 aoe dps and maybe 1-2 pusher no real bridge

[sour oracle]

You should be lapping anyway tbh. your cc pivot is a soft bridge

usually obol

[tribal osprey]

How are you lapping them when they have lighthouse

[warped dune]

All trash into holden,tia,mizuki

The moment tia counters u lost

Thats why pushback is not as good as hard CC

Like kaz and obel are very good cc units

Thats why nobody plays marvel btw, because only pushback aint it against counter

[sour oracle]

Which unit has lighthouse is really the thing. Ling/sania/fuq not on lh normally. Rahu/holden/mizuki not on lighthouse normally (some are, but i dont encounter that often tbh)

And thats why if you see lighthouse, you pivot to more cc

[sour oracle]

ive noticed a lot more tanky cc drafts lately

[warped dune]

There are to many counters to CC now with liliam arounf

[sour oracle]

since they know theyll outspeed and eat a counter or two before hard-locking the field

nah cc is just getting stronger

mono-strategies should weaken over time

[warped dune]

With the upcomming units yeah

[sour oracle]

then hybrid strategies/pivots get strobfer

[warped dune]

But now its meh

Last season CC was very good

Like if a bruiser player forced his comb on you you could just go full cc and win 24/7

Now with liliam around and more res builds cc units arent in a good spot now.

[sour oracle]

was telling people liliam is dummy overtuned

op with cc draft. op with bruiser draft, less op in cleave draft but still good

and she’s an extremely powerful fp or pivot

[chilly iron]

Ya , A bruiser shouldn't do 12- 13k on counter, but in Etheria if they counter my cc units and dps are half dead

In e7 a brusier counter only does like 5-6 k or lower . Only full dps mort does 7k damage on counter

[sour oracle]

yea but in e7 there’s a lot more ways to mitigate damage

[real trellis]

i dont think youre playing cc right if youre letting someone hit you ngl

kinda defeats purpose of the team

[warped dune]

?

[warped dune]

What do u mean, we are talking about counter bruisers

[real trellis]

uh you cant counter

if youre cc'ed?

[warped dune]

homie never faced bulwark holden

all good

i go out for a run

[real trellis]

do you not run strippers?

[warped dune]

??????

[real trellis]

they ban heinrich you protect obol

[warped dune]

Bro, the moment obol strips

[real trellis]

he gets countered

[warped dune]

holden counter

tia counter

[real trellis]

then rest of your team cc's

[warped dune]

obol dead

[real trellis]

for the rest of the game

and they lose on the spot

?

[chilly iron]

Obol S2 not a cc

[tribal osprey]

they all had it in s0

[warped dune]

all good budy

talk with someone else about it i am out running

[real trellis]

what rank are you?

[warped dune]

mythic top 200

see u

[real trellis]

im also mythic

its like all cleave or cc here

[chilly iron]

Don't mind me I am not that high in rta , I am a platinum player that whay i have problem with brusier meta

[real trellis]

hmm he either lied or he isnt adept ingame

cause theres no adept even in top 300

[open fable]

I mean

Some people lie to ya know

[real trellis]

yeah i know he lied

cause i know his ingame is adept

[outer falcon]

He's Adept in game

[real trellis]

and hes not top 300

cause i checked the entire leaderboard

[tribal osprey]

pretty sure he was top 200 in s0 idk about this season though

[outer falcon]

He might've changed it or might be referring to s0

I know he's at least in masters cause I've seen him stream

[real trellis]

yeah i havent seen him stream recently. last time i was in his stream was when we played him in gvg and i was talking to him

but uh masters =/= mythic

his takes just seems like the same s0 takes people had where they were super behind on the meta

[orchid needle]

Etheria outplayed themselves

Good on epic 7 for actually putting in some effort to improve when presented with competition

[zinc bronze]

Why tf would bb affect splash damage

[outer falcon]

Very game much design

[zinc bronze]

Pretty sure rilmocha splash says it ignores damage mitigation

These devs

[graceful juniper]

again with miss translation of the text lmao these dev

[sour oracle]

it’s not a passive i think

same thing with forgetfulness (?)

like bb still effects massiah

it’s dumb but i see the spaghetti code logic in it

[zinc bronze]

Hmm

[sour oracle]

What unit reduces damage as a passive tho

[graceful juniper]

viper....tia dmg share

[zinc bronze]

Andrew?

[sour oracle]

Oh yea viper and tia

much use. Big strong rat

[outer falcon]

damn

one of the revs was actually an inferno shell too, how about that

[tribal osprey]

one of? I only see one rev

[outer falcon]

the only rev then i paid 0 attention

[tribal osprey]

[warped dune]

Yo i am back, yeah i was top 200 mythic s0 in this season i was gold couple days ago and now master something. Played like 80 games in first week and took huge break until recently.

Was quite entangled with wow m+ gaming with friends so didnt stream

But i think i will start streaming again on thursday taking rta serious again.

Was boring af the first weeks of the season so i didnt care

[inland chasm]

Its still boring

[outer falcon]

still extremely boring

[warped dune]

so we still gearchecking with bruiser teams ?

[outer falcon]

no people have realized you can just stunlock them to death

so it's now just coinflipping res checks

[warped dune]

perfection

[outer falcon]

if you have a p2+ Mass you can cleave until they start remembering you're a cleaver and then they ban your Mass and you're back to cc

[tribal osprey]

so you can only play cleave if you have a very duped up massiah is what Im hearing

[graceful juniper]

and only count too

[tribal osprey]

perfect

[outer falcon]

you can also go full Yeongeo on your account

[graceful juniper]

pretty much if its count_massiah then its guarantee a cleave

[outer falcon]

pure rev route

[orchid needle]

No wonder my rilmo attacks failed way back

[real trellis]

why were you so defensive about me saying how the meta is when you have no clue what rta is like rn lmao

also lying about your current rank was crazy

im currently mythic rta so ive seen it all

[zinc bronze]

Is this a weekly thing for Hall of Trials?

[errant mountain]

You get those bi-weekly

based on your rank

@zinc bronze

To get above 4M points, do challenge mode

oh wait

wrong SS

theres the right one

[graceful juniper]

Rip i only rank C so only 2 EE/bi-weekly

[zinc bronze]

Not even one ee

[errant mountain]

how tf is that top 8%

Both in the sense of "wtf not even 1 ee" but also "how is that better than 92% of scores"

[zinc bronze]

idk

I just watch tristenwulf comp and slap in what I had and click auto

[errant mountain]

based

I haven't gotten around to it yet

trying to rush abyss 110

thats

what

I took an SS

and instead of pasting the SS

it pasted some random tex

t

there

abyss 106 beating my ass

tsu's team didnt work

so now im building blue aria

gonna try blue aria/aram/iseria/SC ainos

Just spam aria ults for the 2 buffs and if shit hits the fan SC ainos has 2 buffs on ult too

[zinc bronze]

Haven't touched abyss in years

[errant mountain]

😭

[zinc bronze]

I should check where I left it

[errant mountain]

YOU HAVENT FINISHED IT?

I assumed it was all done

why would you leave it there if its not done what

[zinc bronze]

[errant mountain]

bruhh

[zinc bronze]

I finished it back then when it was only 100 floors

[errant mountain]

have u even finished path of heir

[zinc bronze]

Haven't tried it since

[errant mountain]

dont you need abyss 110 for path of heir

its a free ML5 dude

[zinc bronze]

Idk, didn't even see that even when I returned

[errant mountain]

oh weird lol

maybe it only shows for new players

[zinc bronze]

Hmm maybe

Where's the tab for it?

Oh it is still kiris cheese huh

I refused to kiris cheese back then, brute forced it somehow to 100

Wait, can fenne solo this? I should try

[errant mountain]

tsu has guides for every floor

ths 106 one just

isnt working

*the

others worked tho

[zinc bronze]

Yeah don't have it

Does it have an expiry?

[errant mountain]

Might just be for new accounts then

I can check ina sec

[warped dune]

What do u mean by "defensive" ? I just stated the way it is. I dont have to be mythic to have an opinion about the meta, if my master ass is literally 100 points away from it. Thats the same in every pvp game, like imagine a dia 4 in league is telling an emerald 1 player that he has no clue about dia 4 meta, even tho its literally the same.

[errant mountain]

no time limit

on it

[real trellis]

you literally just asked if the meta is still bruisers gearchecking

[zinc bronze]

yeah maybe for new players only

[warped dune]

Also top 10 mythic right now is surely playing their own "meta" because they play the same people 24/7

[warped dune]

Because it was the same at the start of the season

[real trellis]

its not now bruiser is the worst team

its the hardest to win with by far

not impossible but its alot worse than just playing cc

[warped dune]

And i just cleaved my ass up from gold to master in some hours because those bruiser units had toast gear and no dupes

[real trellis]

i mean yeah

bruiser isnt particularly good now

its what i said originally

cc is just better

[warped dune]

At the beginning of the season and i assume it didnt change much

CC was way worse then it was in s0

[real trellis]

well it did change

idk how you had such a strong opinion of cc being bad when you were just assuming

[warped dune]

Because i drafted it multiple times

At the beginning of the season

When i faced top 10 players

The forced their bruiser shit onto me

And ignored everything

[real trellis]

so you were just confident that in the entire time you havent played

that nothing changed

so much so

you got defensive

when someone told you how the meta is now

[warped dune]

I dont know why u are saying i am getting defensive all the time if i just disagree

Because my feelscraft tells me otherwise

[real trellis]

how can you feel anything if you havent even played recently

at that point youre just making things up

[warped dune]

Bro like i said i cleaved my ass up some days ago and stuck on master 3 because bruiser teams started to have gear

And i couldnt os them anymore

After that i didnt bother regearing my entire roster after x2

[real trellis]

sooo your experience with cleave somehow made you knowledgable about cc?

i dont get it

bruisers by design should counter cleave

[warped dune]

Yes thats correct

And cc should crush bruiser

[real trellis]

and nowhere did u say you played cc recently

so i dont get how you know how cc does nowadays

[real trellis]

it does.

[warped dune]

Because the last big change to CC was the introduction of liliam

And liliam just nerfed CC by a shit ton because bruiser players were already prebanning kaz and now also have the option to run ling/doki and liliam

• people understood that running res isnt even bad, because its way easier to establish a good res amount than building CC units with the right acc + speed

Thats why my gutfeeling is telling me that probably nothing really changed

And cc still feels weak into bruiser now

However if u explain me how its different now

I dont mind changing my opinion because i am curious

[real trellis]

honestly its fine. im fine with disagreeing. have a nice climb i wish you luck.

[warped dune]

Sure i wish you good luck too

[turbid ridge]

CC war every channel now

[hardy hornet]

Holy PTSD

[outer falcon]

CC can also just take Liliam though

[real trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sunset-javgag-gif-6354990519690233079

im mythic i dont need to queue anymore im free. i wont let cc steal my time anymore

i cant get stunlocked on discord too

[turbid ridge]

cc is toxic if it works / cleave is toxic if it works / bruiser toxic if it works

[warped dune]

They can and i could write you an essay on the advantages and disadvantages for that but i am to tired

[errant mountain]

what the fuck is this unholy etheria chat in my real and legitimate epic seven discord server

[warped dune]

E7 is ass u cant convince me otherwise

Like the graphics are fire

Especially the s3 Animation

[sour oracle]

e7 animations and voices are top tier

[warped dune]

Everything else ass

[sour oracle]

but the gameplay never hooked me hard like sw or here

idk why

it’s like “ I should love this, but i just dont”

[turbid ridge]

e7 was fun for 1 month for someone who started 5 years later

[warped dune]

The qol is just pathetic i dont know

The farming is horrendous

This whole ass gearing interface

I vomit horizontally

The fact you cant get exclusive event units

And have to wait a year

ML units being insanely expensive

Creating problematic meta units to then later sell u the solution

Also because they have so much content after years u have no idea what is actually important to do unless u watch a guide

I would have to play it again to write down more specifics but i think i mentioned enough

However like i said animations, voicepacks graphics 10/10

[sour oracle]

Yea sw has the more streamlined pve experience i feel

we’ve been doing the same 2 dungeons for 11 years for better or worse lol

[warped dune]

Facts

[errant mountain]

CHAT IM BACK

I thought the temporary discord outage was me being banned lol

[viral dune]

Did you do something bad to guarantee a ban

[undone vortex]

what u do

did u steal Jack's private yacht

[zinc bronze]

we're back

How many members are we rn

[naive wave]

https://youtu.be/VCpxtV10lVo

Another turn based in 2025?
Or wait, it might even be released in 2026

[tribal osprey]

88,606

[zinc bronze]

Road to 85k lets go

[naive wave]

Only around 1400 more for the next mileage

Road to 90k you mean?

[zinc bronze]

Nah we going backwards

[naive wave]

Game is not released yet

[graceful cradle]

Reading through this was great i thank you for your -1 sanity

[graceful cradle]

We've already established above you have shit takes so this is just another one to add i see

[undone vortex]

dam they purging a lot of inactive users

[jolly relic]

Ppl lost trust to the dev

[outer falcon]

true

[graceful juniper]

dont need to think right? just get this guy

[naive wave]

And then you get a dupe from the next daily free summon

[naive wave]

I'm expecting to easily get max Prowess for all "Moonlight" here since the gacha is claimed to be really easy in Etheria

[zinc bronze]

Oh we have selector now

How do you build her

It says here injury with high HP

[spark mural]

[graceful cradle]

Pretty much and base speed

[errant mountain]

I picked up zio

Already had harsetti so the choice was ez pz

[naive wave]

My choice was easy too

Since any of them will give me 10 Coins

[tribal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[indigo oyster]

free lattice?

[ripe kraken]

For dupes

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[tribal osprey]

free with purchase of $99.99

[naive wave]

What do you think the defensive comments will be?

[zinc bronze]

We have patch notes

[tribal osprey]

"Its not that big of a difference. Let the whales have something"

[zinc bronze]

[tribal osprey]

is that yellow or purple

[zinc bronze]

Purple

[tribal osprey]

o

[zinc bronze]

I think

No way they give us LD x10

[tribal osprey]

would make sense with their prowess event

[naive wave]

But I read claims the gacha is really easy here
So max Prowess should be easy, right?

[tribal osprey]

true

anyone without maxed dupes is just a skill issue tbh

[zinc bronze]

Meh nothing new

Just some fixes

I bet this is a recolor for disorder color scheme

[spring yarrow]

Guaranteed recolour. They'd def make a bigger spectacle out of actual skins

[zinc bronze]

60$ skins

[chilly iron]

It was still a bug they didn't remove it

[tribal osprey]

they still havent found that bug?

[naive wave]

Yes
Everyone that says the gacha is easy especially, they will have her maxed minutes after the update is live

[outer falcon]

how come they still haven't fixed Obol's S2

[tribal osprey]

working as intended

[indigo oyster]

What does it say again?

Convert buff to dot

I mean it kinda is working as intended xD

2 buff can be of the same type etc

Still need to fix that shit

That the interaction with Tiamat

I though they fix it with amber where it won’t proc dragon form again

Sometime happen, sometime don’t

[tribal osprey]

someone said her base speed is 129. is this true?

[zinc bronze]

I remember that one obol that converted my ling buffs into dot

All 6 of em

[tribal osprey]

good

He shouldhave added 2 more as a present

[graceful cradle]

I got my 3rd Belian since I already had multiples of each of these

[zinc bronze]

Is it worth max imprinting harsetti?

I have a ton piled up

[graceful cradle]

With gold transmits yes

Not with dupes having 2 harsetti is pretty good

[zinc bronze]

Oh you can max imprint her with gold

I forgot boss units does that

[graceful cradle]

One for near base speed and another for like 200 ish speed

Or another base speed one on damage build even for unique comps

[zinc bronze]

Maybe if we can get barunka next shop rotation

[graceful cradle]

No shot

Next rotation is Empy

Boss is a long way off

[zinc bronze]

Is it announced who will appear next shop refresh?

I have 40 saved up

[graceful cradle]

It's slowly in order of release

So Luna is finally in the shop meaning next first time will be Empy

Then eventually finally Hua and Peira which I've been saving coins for for a year

[zinc bronze]

Is she worth buying

[graceful cradle]

Empyrean Ilynav?

[zinc bronze]

Yeah

[graceful cradle]

She's one of the best knights in the game

[zinc bronze]

Nice, I really liked red ilynav back then

Her ult looked so cool

[graceful cradle]

Anti pen, cr push on anyone being hit, cleanse on s3

Plus does good damage and has solid sustain

Pseudo execute on SB s1 with stacked injury

[zinc bronze]

Aight, maybe I'll buy her next rotation

[graceful cradle]

I'd highly recommend honestly

[zinc bronze]

still 30+ days to wait

[graceful cradle]

Yup sadly and tbh might not even be next month

[zinc bronze]

[graceful cradle]

Typically they'll stretch it out to avoid certain meta units from coming too early so we might get a rerun next month

Since they can try to force people tired of waiting on coinshop to pick them up on a banner rerun or as their headhunt target

Like technically Luna was 4 months late

[spark mural]

no inferno nerfs even tho we get new inferno stage 🛌

[graceful cradle]

Yup can't wait for Khloros to make Rengo look like child's play

[graceful juniper]

There is no yellow shadowprint in shell story

[outer falcon]

khloros will surely reward my faith in him

by letting me ezclear

unless he's mad that i exclusively call him clorox

[spark mural]

another "bug"

[outer falcon]

i'm cackling aloud

[indigo oyster]

wtf so it’s useless

[spark mural]

ain't no way

[outer falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/50cent-smile-driving-oh-well-im-out-gif-5135974

[tribal osprey]

LMFAO

[inland chasm]

Its real

[tribal osprey]

BAHAHAHAHAH

[errant mountain]

Why would you want speed harsetti

[zinc bronze]

51$

[errant mountain]

Isn't her speed fixed at the start?

[graceful cradle]

You should probably read her again

[errant mountain]

Oh is it not

Even then speed is limited to.90% of her speed

Why would going faster help

To outspeed base speed characters like SC amiki? (Doubt she would be in a jarsetti match just an example)

[errant mountain]

Yea ik her passive

[graceful cradle]

I believe in you

[errant mountain]

I just thought it fixed her speed st some point

[graceful cradle]

You'll figure it out

[errant mountain]

But also im pretty sure i already figure it out

[graceful cradle]

Nope you didn't

[errant mountain]

Oh

Yea im stuck

💀

[graceful cradle]

Have you built an AYufine?

[errant mountain]

Oh ayufine

No but ive heard about her

[graceful cradle]

Ah hmm

Have you built a BBK

[errant mountain]

U get fighting spirit and when its full u sacrifice most of ur defense for big attack/speed

[errant mountain]

Yes

[graceful cradle]

How fast is she

[errant mountain]

Like 150-165

[graceful cradle]

Hmm k

How fast do you think the avg Boss Arunka is

[errant mountain]

Prob like base speed since her cr push on s2

[graceful cradle]

How about non GW 3F Belians

[errant mountain]

I have no idea how you'd build belian but i'd guess 170-190?

[graceful cradle]

How fast are the typical destruction set Empyrean Ilynavs you see us share here

[errant mountain]

I don't really remember

[graceful cradle]

The answer here is typically sub 160 speed

Usually the same as AYufine

Now last question what's 90% of 200 speed

[errant mountain]

180

[graceful cradle]

Which all of these fall under

Aka you can speed tune your standard drafts but cleavers will be stuck trying to RNG their turn order

That's the strength of a 200 speed HST

[errant mountain]

Oh that makes sense thankss

[graceful cradle]

Typically only good into very specific cleaves/aggro matchups but if you have stuff like BMH+ Arunka/DBS

Or Empy or Carmin just to make them trying to cleave into HST even with Zio it's really annoying for them and your team is still speed tuned

That's also why a lot of standard players run speed boots on HST

So she's at least around 154 speed

But I chose a 3rd Belian so I can stop switching around my GW Belian over a 3rd HST

[errant mountain]

Three belians i wish i had such luxuries

[graceful cradle]

It kinda sucks when you need to imprint the dupe ones though lol

[errant mountain]

I assumed the dupes were just unimprinted

You buy imprints for the first one from the shop but arent you just cooked beyond that

[graceful cradle]

Nah i started to for stats and nope I keep pulling these fkers lol

[main elm]

No fakin way

[viral dune]

Better get Harsetti dupe or Ameru dupe?

Maybe can build speed Harsetti for 2nd build

[main elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626994804588281863/1414835166572187658/image.png?ex=68c1036e&is=68bfb1ee&hm=0410d6f58b84ebcebc9223dc40ca1ee21ec01bf0cfda1f70a6b41964bd03b199&

We dealing with this now

[gilded mason]

@ripe kraken https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1ncelan/com2us_announces_upcoming_3d_turnbased_gacha_game/

you've heard of star savior

ever heard of STAR SAILORS?

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-urara-chibi-anime-chibi-uma-musume-gif-17070640574842630862