inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[vague violet]

I haven’t even cleared chapter 1, but I login for special events and I think I have like four limited characters already for when I do actually decide to play. Oh, and I have I think three out of four of their weapons too.

[ripe kraken]

Why is xodin typing

[glacial zinc]

I was?

https://tenor.com/view/what-wtf-eyes-look-phone-gif-3927559383930151204

Uhm
So paul was here

[ripe kraken]

Yeah I caught u homie

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/curses-foiled-again-he-man-meh-skeleto-gif-16546096

[fallow hornet]

Who is this paul character?
Looks like a infamous guy around here

[main elm]

That's was abit random and to say it in here in the nest of quitters of all places

I guess you have more approval rating in this channel than anywhere else if I'm being honest

[fallow hornet]

I have never seen more quitters staying in this discord than any other gacha games

[main elm]

More like discord not game

[fallow hornet]

I generally dont talk in general chat of any gacha game but this game i decided to talk cause people were quitting every week

[viral dune]

Tf is e7 doing

The new mldb is goon bait 101

[quasi sorrel]

Setsuka

[viral dune]

[fallow hornet]

They know what sells

[viral dune]

But its just rgb

[fallow hornet]

Dont blame the game blame the players
Gooner shit sell like hotcake

[viral dune]

This is straight out of nikke/azurlane lmao

[fallow hornet]

Reason why nikke is still in top 50 when gameplay is literal ass cheeks

That game was fun for the first 2 months before it got stale for me

Finally quit it after 6 months

[half lodge]

Kekw

[main elm]

Yeah E7 is giving less and less fucks to give...

[fallow hornet]

Just watch the czn latest video

Sg knows what sells

And who the consumer is

Im one of those consumer

[main elm]

The dev talk one?

[fallow hornet]

[fallow hornet]

Yeah, the thumbnail

[main elm]

Yeah saw it a while ago lol

[fallow hornet]

Even china couldnt stop aria

Almost made my girl a muslim living in saudi arabia

[gilded mason]

I spent 1k

And i quit

[graceful cradle]

Are you daft it always was

Moonlight Dreamblade | Epic Seven Wiki for Beginners https://epic7x.com/artifact/moonlight-dreamblade/

She's been like this since day 1

What were you expecting

[main elm]

I think the result of E7 goonerism slippery slope is they got blueballed by China for a while

Their unit release behavior is out of repressed desire to coom furiously

[graceful cradle]

Most other units I'd agree

[fallow hornet]

They learning from nikkee

Good business

[graceful cradle]

But I mean she literally has been depicted like this from the game's release

[fallow hornet]

https://youtu.be/OZoFYWVZny0?si=Su0v9ssRCXpNlxSk

[half lodge]

A really great video

[main elm]

If you think CZN isn't gonna get much deeper into the goon hole you are very mistaken

I think it's the game where supercreative can go all out, coz they can't make E7 into browndust2

[naive wave]

2018 design

[graceful juniper]

Wtf is that e7 setsuka

[graceful juniper]

100% gooning

Licking the bell

Fkin word

[ripe kraken]

My rod fell let me pick it up

[viral dune]

I assure you licking the bell is important for the lore and skill animation.

[main elm]

https://tenor.com/view/kakyoin-gif-12350197554395070804

[chilly iron]

I don't think Etheria will be able to complete with e7 in terms of character design and animation

[spark mural]

i got her artifact already but have no clue on who uses that

[naive wave]

Mostly thieves that already have their own evasion

[main elm]

It's 2025, AI has limits

[spark mural]

new kid adin?

[naive wave]

If you don't have Kayron's, that's a good option

Though you might want to get Setsuka's
Time to sacrifice 240 Powder to buy it from shop if gacha doesn't give you any

[ripe kraken]

Elon musk says no cause his grok can do everything even be ur gf

[main elm]

Comparing Elon to XD

[ripe kraken]

Elon can sue etheria

For not using grok

[twilit vault]

afaik the gaming department is not as big compared to the whole of XD so dont know how impactful this may or may not be

[main elm]

EoS

If I'm the shareholder with no knowledge about the in-game stuff, I'll simply go to the meeting and see how dangerously poor it's performing and making money I'll be leaning towards selling it to a "sweatshop" company like VALOFE and let them milk it on their own, or give a deadline to stabilize the revenue

[viral dune]

Kinda curious how this month revenue is gonna be. Last time it dropped from 7m to 2m.

[zealous fjord]

[main elm]

Highly likely it'll be less than 1m

[zealous fjord]

Have faith...

[main elm]

Yes I have faith on them fuckin it up

[zealous fjord]

Although the channels are dropping like flies...

[twilit vault]

my prediction is 700k on the gacha pvp site or whatever

[twilit vault]

ah yes, the gravekeepers of abandoned gacha games VALOFE

[half lodge]

What is this

What games do they host

[twilit vault]

they buy rights to gacha games on the downfall and then keep them alive by artificial respiration basically

maintenance with limited content updates

[half lodge]

And what titled for example

[twilit vault]

Last Origin (Horizon Walker developers' previous game) for example

https://vfun.valofe.com/game/all_games

[half lodge]

The only one i know i checked is combat arms

[twilit vault]

https://gg.deals/games/developed-by-valofe/

[graceful cradle]

She isn't out yet lol unless you mean moonlight dreamblade

[graceful cradle]

It's at like 800k min last I saw but not looking too good

[main elm]

FWT ( Fantasy war tactics )

[spark mural]

1 sec

[main elm]

They killed it

[half lodge]

Completly no name games

Expect combat arms

[spark mural]

yeah was that one

[half lodge]

Mu legend was also quite popular

[graceful cradle]

Tbh she won't use MLDB herself

[half lodge]

Is Mort nessesary evil in E7?

[graceful cradle]

She'll want her own new arti since with the Riposte set she'll have more chances to proc her s2 fast

Yes

I've never had issues with Mort he's strong yes but he has clearly defined strengths and weaknesses

https://tenor.com/view/ice-skate-blade-uphill-vampire-suck-gif-24681501

[half lodge]

What is his weakness?

[ripe kraken]

He wanted ras to be a dragon at a point

[graceful cradle]

He himself tends to counter a lot so LHC absolutely destroys him atm. ASFlan can one tap him

[half lodge]

What is lhc

[graceful cradle]

His fear debuff triggers stuff like DKS

Or you can just immune it

[ripe kraken]

Lion heart

[half lodge]

What is dks

[ripe kraken]

Cermia

[graceful cradle]

You can also literally pick young senya into him

[half lodge]

Yhx natsu

[graceful cradle]

You can oneshot him with fire krau

[half lodge]

I havent got any char you mentioned

As you probably mow

[half lodge]

Oh i didnt try

[ripe kraken]

Dragon knight senya

[graceful cradle]

You can injury him with Adin/Shoux/DDR and he doesn't guarantee the fear anymore

You can bring Diene and Empy to lower his s3 damage cuz of pen

Everyone gets DDR

[ripe kraken]

Death dealer ray

[half lodge]

Tbh while you call so mamy limited/ml is not possible

[graceful cradle]

He has a lot of ways to deal with him

[half lodge]

But at least i got some ideas

So thanks

[graceful cradle]

Okay

DDR is free

Adin is 4*

[ripe kraken]

How

[half lodge]

Yeah

[ripe kraken]

Where is mine

[graceful cradle]

Krau isnt limited

[half lodge]

I wrote that

[graceful cradle]

Other than those you can use most high ST fire dps to kill him just the best ones are limited

ARas def break into a high ST dps dual will kill him just the same as ASFlan

Handguy who also is free if you chose him over DDR just counters his entire kit lol

[graceful cradle]

If you didn't pick him with your second moonlight blessing idk what to say

Except for like the initial little while after it came out he's been S tier for like the entirety of the 2nd Blessing's lifespan

I even got him with that (and pulled a bunch more of him later lol)

[ripe kraken]

I still didn't get to that point

When it appears

[twilit vault]

yeah we're in Healfree's refugee guild lul

havent unlocked 2nd blessing yet

[graceful cradle]

I'm too used to speedrunning new accounts lmao

[spark mural]

game has so many character i have no clue what to pick on 5* selector

[half lodge]

Tristen wolf

[main elm]

Ppl can help you with that

I guess

[half lodge]

Got a tier list video with explanation

Very good i have to admit

[main elm]

Yeah Tristen best dude to groom accounts

[half lodge]

He taught me the way

[main elm]

[half lodge]

My favorite guns and roses vocalist

[main elm]

Ikr, dudes looks like an 80s Rockstar

[half lodge]

I mean unironically XD dude Has i have to say a really original image/persona

[main elm]

Yes, it's very unique

That's why he is special

[half lodge]

And also while diving into new community to have someone representative

Here i would say is sean b and there tristen

[main elm]

SeanB slightly turning evil im here NOT that I blame him for doing so

[gilded mason]

What about gacha josh

[half lodge]

He is 2000 emo creator

From his image really nostalgic

[main elm]

Yeah Josh feels like Marilyn Manson from Temu

[gilded mason]

I thought noctis

From temu

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-xv-noctis-ffxv-gif-14096921

Actually i think thats what he was going for

Looks really similar

[main elm]

Poor Temu

[gilded mason]

Knockoff noctis

[main elm]

If u want josh x noctis downgrade the only one I'd think of is Josh being noctis in MeatCanyon video

[outer falcon]

I don't think a shareholder meeting is likely to have much if anything to do with the future of the game tbh

They'll certainly talk about it but ER is still just one of a bunch of their moving parts

[half lodge]

And tbh

Just started

Didnt have even cn launch

[outer falcon]

Oh wait that's also just a board meeting

[viral dune]

I thot they having emergency meeting because the game tanked.

Or they could just preparing 2nd global launch

[outer falcon]

Nah, this is a very typical thing

[graceful cradle]

First is fenne

Second is either mort celine or aria

For maxed selectors

[naive wave]

He does way too much but yes

The anti counter alone is useful
Even gearless level 1 is more than enough
Just like Harsetti

[gilded mason]

He's e7s holden

[graceful juniper]

He used to be a meme unit

[main elm]

for a really long time

[naive wave]

From a meme to a menace

Now the only meme about him is his relationship chart in character profile

[viral dune]

https://tenor.com/view/senya-mort-mortelix-epic-seven-young-senya-gif-191511715226356803

The irony

[half lodge]

Damn you won that with 2 lvl 1

[naive wave]

Even with the max and geared ones, those 2 won't move anyway

Since Ludwig has killed everyone already

[half lodge]

So only for the passives they were takiej there

[naive wave]

Harsetti has Book though
For the Souls

[half lodge]

U played E7 for long?

[naive wave]

Yes
I always find it funny when outsiders talk about E7 years ago
As if they knew

[half lodge]

So you Play sińce start

[naive wave]

Not really

But I did follow the chat since Global release

[fallow hornet]

Damn why u calling out them like that

[half lodge]

Hi Bugs bunny

[fallow hornet]

Its chungus sir

[radiant jolt]

0 inferno counts 🥲

please game

set me free

[half lodge]

Its a marathon not a sprint

[fallow hornet]

Are you still in the marathon or u left the race sir

[naive wave]

https://tenor.com/view/laia-epic-seven-gif-13185781443189169753

[wet vault]

e7 gonna add the queen of clowns to the circus soon

[naive wave]

I still remember that KR tier list

MA Ken and Sez

Top tier

[fallow hornet]

I was like but then looking at her kit im like this aint it chief

Clown fest all round

[fallow hornet]

Back when ml ken was king

[wet vault]

tmr meru banner

my 50 mystic and a dream

[fallow hornet]

Ive got 4k and a dream

[wet vault]

🥀

im so poor gg

[fallow hornet]

I was hoping er gonna replace e7 for me but devs releasing stinker after stinker meanwhile e7 going up

Its still wild to me that they removing unequip cost after 7 yrs

[graceful juniper]

Solo ml ken🔥

[fallow hornet]

I remember when arby destroyed japan server single handedly

That boy was a menace

[fallow hornet]

Sigret was my only option for him

[naive wave]

Blame Yostar for that

Day 1, ML already available in permanent Covenant banner

[fallow hornet]

Arby was the lily of e7

[naive wave]

JP Guild full of AVil or STene

[fallow hornet]

[naive wave]

Lilibet still wasn't in JP
So yes

[fallow hornet]

Stene was a menace

[fallow hornet]

No lie lilibet was shit

Her base stats is dogshit

[naive wave]

Oh I mean she has Extinction

[fallow hornet]

Yeah but then people went tanky arby or mldb

[naive wave]

That's why her first buff is 20% hit chance on S3

[fallow hornet]

I remember not being able to kill a 11k arby and i just ungeared lilibet and put her back in storage

[wet vault]

now lilibeth is barack

just need to avoid emily

[fallow hornet]

Not really

Her base stats is still shit

And arby isnt prelevant

[wet vault]

she’s an old unit so i got her sss

oneshotting most barunka and mlhwa

[naive wave]

I remember getting carried by Fire Ravi for 1-10-10

[wet vault]

through mit

man bakc in the days where aravi just solo ur whole team

[fallow hornet]

U gonna need tachi for that

And even then straze is better

[wet vault]

nah im running her with amid most of the time

kind of a 4th 5th pick tbh

and ye shes still shit after doing her s3

[fallow hornet]

Her base stats is shit

[naive wave]

A few months late, I see

[fallow hornet]

I remember when basar was meta

[naive wave]

[naive wave]

Remember when Luna was censored?
Well, we got the original one as a skin last year for free

[fallow hornet]

Yeah i remember

Not really fan of her old skin tbh

Cause her spine was a bit off

[fallow hornet]

Red tiara with him was meta

[half lodge]

I AM playing even switched guild recently because my previous one quitted 20 people so there was no sense to find another and IT was easier to find another

[fallow hornet]

Yeah feels bad seeing so many people quit

This game has potential

[wet vault]

8 days is insane

😭

[gilded mason]

She didnt save us

[graceful juniper]

Atleast she save my doki run...now i can use xiada under 1 min on doki lol

[outer falcon]

Drop the tech

If it has a lily I'm going to your house

[graceful juniper]

Need doki

[chilly iron]

Kayron don't care about lhc

[outer falcon]

My Doki 5 5 5 level 50 we ride

4 codexes though wow

[graceful juniper]

Yep...im molding on rengo

[twilit vault]

where do i get more team slots in E7

[ripe kraken]

Buy with skystones

Just click on the number

Like 100/100 if ur inventory is full

Besides arrange

The number will be there

[twilit vault]

i mean formations

[ripe kraken]

Like team loadouts?

They come in next update which should be tomorrow

Around

[twilit vault]

when you pick a team before starting the stage there's only 2 formations you can set up and name available on the left

[ripe kraken]

Oh

Search it on yt

I think u need to buy that

But from next update it should be free

I think

So just wait

For the update

[twilit vault]

so tomorrow then?

[ember kraken]

clearing infernos still suck. I have decents sets and dont come close. Can only clear certain ones. I wish they would at least make the special mods accessable in Hell 4

[outer falcon]

What speeds do you have them all on?

[outer falcon]

What are you struggling with

[ember kraken]

aurora and Terror at the moment

[outer falcon]

What are you trying to use?

[graceful juniper]

270+

[ember kraken]

Val, Viper, Liliam/Diting, Ling, and Lilly

[outer falcon]

Aah so Xiada gets to 3 stacks immediately after Nympho

[outer falcon]

Theoretically that should work fine for Aurora as long as Lingluo cleans off the curse shield and damage over time effects before Lily boosts Diting

So you may need to make Lily slower and put Lingluo on supernova with Cure and a heal% middle passive

[ember kraken]

may be the issue my lilly is extremely fast

[outer falcon]

If she isn't already

Yeah

Lily doesn't actually need to be the fastest unit on the team all the time

Sometimes it even hurts you

[ember kraken]

I'll give that a try. Thank you

[viral dune]

Dps teyron?

Or bruiser

[viral dune]

Yeah, next update should be tomorrow.

[twilit vault]

what about Mystic Medals, use or save

[graceful cradle]

Lilibet is pretty good on GW offense into specific teams

We've been cooking with her a bunch on a fairly common defense

[quasi sorrel]

Use it tmr on Lady of the Scales banner

[graceful cradle]

^ this

I don't even think we need to wait for testing to know she's a must pull

That said though she'll def have some premium targets for her buff so having those vs not having those will probably skyrocket her value

[viral dune]

Go all in for Lady

She is pretty much "boss" ML unit and never skip those. They are usually very good during their release.

Until the devs decide to fuck them over.

[outer falcon]

me going "how the fuck did I lose all these defenses,"

open the replays and it's all Yelis following up 4 fucking times

[trim wing]

whats the point of those units

[craggy rivet]

Shadow Walkers are for really new players tackling Ethernet Rally and don't have a lot of units built, but I'm thinking devs don't gear them up because it could give an inflated impression of their true strength and confuse newer players when they actually build them later.

[outer falcon]

red chiaki is actually useful up through Lindell as a shadow walker

[craggy rivet]

👍

[outer falcon]

which is crazy

[craggy rivet]

Nice

[outer falcon]

she and red rin are the only 2 worth anything out of all of them

[craggy rivet]

You dont have lots of Red

O.o

Call me bro

I got you with Lian Helkid Fangus

[twilit vault]

DokiDoki too imo

[trim wing]

I swear if they let kururu in ethernet ralley for cn release they better watchout their HQ not getting bruned

[outer falcon]

ah good call, i never used it cause i had her

cn is getting a yeli banner on release and probably a ton of other crazy catchup shit, they'll have a super easy time and have better accounts than us within like 2 months

[viral dune]

Oof. That's bound to be a drama again.

[trim wing]

idk so wasnt it confirmed they get same client which means we get same packs and event schedule like them?

[viral dune]

Even Yeli banner at release is pretty shitty alr.

Not as bad as Lily banner but yea.

[outer falcon]

C said the goal is to have everyone on the same patch

but even new servers are on the same patch getting their Freya banner and such

week 1 reset event, etc

so they can keep us all on the same patch in terms of the build but run different events on it already

[trim wing]

events are the same

[outer falcon]

we'll all have the same bugs, but not the same exact content. same way curent asia server always has different team rolls than EU and global for champion's call

they're not the same

[trim wing]

?

[outer falcon]

i gave 3 examples of how they're not the same

[trim wing]

where

[outer falcon]

.

[outer falcon]

.

[outer falcon]

.

[trim wing]

those are not events

[craggy rivet]

Bruh

[outer falcon]

they are events in the parlance of this game

that's the term we've been given

[trim wing]

every new players gets freya banner

thats not an event

[outer falcon]

ok

[craggy rivet]

Champ's call event should be banned 💀

[outer falcon]

i hate it but it's also the single best source of crystals in the game

after the last 2 weeks of dry crystals i'm actually happy to see it back. they've broken my brain

[zinc bronze]

[slim iris]

Damn thats kinda messed up 😭 I hope ur doing well though! Hoping for the good changes as well

[tribal osprey]

yep

seems about right

[outer falcon]

[tribal osprey]

They dont even realize this is the Paul they are looking for 😭

[tribal osprey]

what does the stage even go

like is it just a wallpaper?

[outer falcon]

it's an arena environment

[tribal osprey]

Windows XP?

[zinc bronze]

50 FUCKEN USD

[outer falcon]

so for any arena battle you can make it look like that when the units are fighting

hey now, the ugly ass Whitney Time Court is only 15.49

[tribal osprey]

Sir stop spreading misinformation! ITS $51

[zinc bronze]

Normally it should be 49.99 to give an illusion that it's not 50$

[tribal osprey]

bro thought he could get away from the misinformation brigade

[outer falcon]

honestly, slay

[zinc bronze]

Why would it go 50.99 💀

[outer falcon]

such a cool pricing model. "let's make it seem more expensive"

[tribal osprey]

thats $16?

[chrome meteor]

how many mystics yall have saved for LoS

[wicked quiver]

Hey nice, $40 isn't bad

[chrome meteor]

its ok

u get 20 pulls from cake event

[outer falcon]

oh my god

[tribal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[chrome meteor]

what am i looking at

[wicked quiver]

it's only the price of an AA game

[chrome meteor]

[outer falcon]

static background

[wicked quiver]

a $50 arena skin

[outer falcon]

they didn't even bother to make it cool

no animations

no effects

[tribal osprey]

whatever the ai could generate

[zinc bronze]

They replaced niconana with jacques in cage

[wicked quiver]

credit card debt users will still buy it

[tribal osprey]

its fine

people bought the recolors

this is an upgrade

[wicked quiver]

yeah which is wild honestly

$10 to change freya from purple to green or whatever

why

[tribal osprey]

idk

@gilded mirage

explain

[gilded mirage]

Excuse me it's blue

[rich badge]

oh no

[zinc bronze]

All that effort could've put in on kloss summer skin

[gilded mirage]

Bro I don't even buy Yeli costume. Lilliam was an exception

[chrome meteor]

https://imgflip.com/i/a4c3d8

[tribal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[chrome meteor]

image is too smol hold on

https://imgflip.com/i/a4c3hi

I should really just make a separate feedback post

just with that

[tribal osprey]

bro they should have straight up sold the window xp wallpaper

they are missing out

[chrome meteor]

might be the final straw for me ngl

I already stopped caring

but i was at least logging on and doing stuff

seeign that

[wicked quiver]

my apologies, noble one

[chrome meteor]

might be time to full convert e7 lol

[tribal osprey]

yeah I stopped last week

[wicked quiver]

I shall re-download and buy the skin then, too

[tribal osprey]

but its pretty entertaining though

[chrome meteor]

idk

on the surface its entertaining

but honestly im pretty sad about it

[tribal osprey]

The hero etheria needs!

[chrome meteor]

I think its pretty clear there's a disconnect

between the people making the big decisions

[wicked quiver]

With this $10 investment, I shall be invited to the next shareholder meeting

[chrome meteor]

and the actual management team who is receiving our feedback

so with every 5 genuinely good changes being made

[tribal osprey]

Sir this is $51

[chrome meteor]

its inevitable that 10 more garbage changes or events are introduced

really sad ;-;

[rich badge]

whoa whoa whoa slow down. 5 good changes?

[chrome meteor]

i mean lets not be delusional

[wicked quiver]

I guess I'll spend $20 more and just buy an entire new game (Borderlands 4) instead

[chrome meteor]

i haven't palyed a gacha game

[tribal osprey]

SIR THATS ILLEGAL GET BACK HERE

[chrome meteor]

that actually took as much feedback, then made changes based on that exact feedback

its REALLY rare

[opal tiger]

@gacha_currency wait, so except for daily login rewards, next patch is literally them just selling more stuff?

[chrome meteor]

so i think its even more depressing

that there was never really a chance for ER to be good in the first place

solely because of greedy devs or whoever is releasing these garbage events

has nothing to do with the people who actually care about making the game the best version of itself like jack and C

[wicked quiver]

At the end of the day, businesses are in it to make money, not to be there for the consumer. As we can see with a $50 arena skin.

[chrome meteor]

ok and?

how is their business doing?

is their business doing well?

[wicked quiver]

I didn't say it was

[chrome meteor]

they can't even p2w PROPERLY

[zinc bronze]

We have champions call tho, one of the events of all time

[chrome meteor]

like

thats what makes me the most mad

is not only are they greedy

[wicked quiver]

Certainly an event, I 100% agree

[chrome meteor]

theyre FUCKING incompetent and delusional

They are literally worse at their job

[viral dune]

Hoo boi

[chrome meteor]

than fking like, money launderers

idek

[viral dune]

50$ for arena skin

[rich badge]

come join the dogpile

[viral dune]

Do they think whales are stupid

[wicked quiver]

Yes

[rich badge]

they think we're all stupid

[chrome meteor]

they are definitely having weekly discussions with infinite nikke devs

[main elm]

Another ER dev crash out

What happened

[chrome meteor]

https://imgflip.com/i/a4c3hi

this happened

[viral dune]

At the very least give 50$ and some lattices and pulls

[undone vortex]

when ppl said we want skins they thought oh arena skins?

[viral dune]

Thats really stupid

[tribal osprey]

$51 window xp wallpaper

[wicked quiver]

This is the perfect representation of what a gacha game is

[viral dune]

I'm glad I already pulled the plug yesterday.

[rich badge]

kudos to the chad who actually bought it so we could see how shit it is

[undone vortex]

inb4 the 50$ is just a png with bright lights

[main elm]

Why tf would anyone compare a 5th grade Chinese knock off gacha to a French single player masterpiece.....

[viral dune]

They always take one step forward and then 3 steps backward.

[chrome meteor]

idk go ask the etheria devs

[rich badge]

it just shows the disconnect in value

[wicked quiver]

The price

[chrome meteor]

ACTUALLY

ACTUALLY

[main elm]

Wait what

[chrome meteor]

IM PRETTY SURE E33 IS CHEAPER

[rich badge]

clair obscur is usually cheaper, i can get it for $40

[main elm]

Price of what

[chrome meteor]

[rich badge]

when it's not sold out

[main elm]

I need context

[viral dune]

Arena skin

[wicked quiver]

The price of the new arena skin in Etheria is the same price as E33

a full game

[main elm]

[chrome meteor]

@main elm

[tribal osprey]

that arena skin is $51

[viral dune]

Basically they let you change the background of arena

No animation no anything

For a price of 50$ = AAA games

[chrome meteor]

so again

https://imgflip.com/i/a4c3hi

[main elm]

Lmaaaaaaao, that's 2 days before shareholders meeting, it'll get worse from here

[half lodge]

you are giga funny

[chrome meteor]

[wicked quiver]

whales will buy the skin anyway

so it doesnt matter

[chrome meteor]

im definitely going to be spamming this meme

in the multiple complaint threads

[main elm]

50 fucking dollars for a PowerPoint background, are they fucking delusional

[chrome meteor]

that will inevitably pop up

[half lodge]

exactly this could be honestly priced 100$ or even more doesnt really matter
comparing a value of a skin to a game is never worth it and it is normalized at this point

[chrome meteor]

ofc they are

[half lodge]

i mean of course its funny in comparison but you are playing a GACHA GAME

I also beat honor mode in baldurs gate 3 today finally

[main elm]

You know this shit is bad when u see paul trying to talk in here again

[wicked quiver]

Yes..... but please buy it, thank you for your support. We hear you. Changes coming soon. News soon.

[half lodge]

XD

[half lodge]

true

who have summoned the almighty one

[wicked quiver]

Maybe they aren't delusional at all. Maybe we're delusional for thinking $50 is too high for an arena skin. Maybe they'll rake in $500k from the skin in the next week alone.

[half lodge]

I would say that the arena skin is comparable quality wise to the latest unit relaesses

[magic raft]

fundamental unfun gameplay and events-> flip flopped decisions -> backlash -> kneejerk reactions -> poor comms -> unfun gameplay -> broken mechanics -> kneejerk reactions -> imbalance-> flip flop promises -> no one wants to spend -> shareholders step in -> pressured monetisation

[wicked quiver]

Yeah that about sums it up

[magic raft]

ultimately they have to go back to fundmentals.

[main elm]

Thing is, will they, coz going back means no real revenue for a while

[chrome meteor]

Dude

u know how bad it is

[magic raft]

make the game actually fun on a daily basis. people will spend if it it's fun

[chrome meteor]

if literally

[main elm]

It feels as the game need an entire overhaul at this point

[wicked quiver]

There's only so many "we hear you" posts they can make

[chrome meteor]

thesaurus includes ER devs in their definition of delusional?

[main elm]

Nice edit, good shitpost content

[chrome meteor]

[main elm]

I guess shareholders will call VALOFE for this one chief

[wicked quiver]

One of the main reasons I stopped playing was the large time dedication it takes to do everything daily, not to mention the monotony of the daily and repeating events

[magic raft]

im aware of all the problems, in every game i fixed, i do not see it from a whales perspective

[half lodge]

Sad that even you stopped

[main elm]

This game is bad for the whales, spending in it just gives u more and more grind time

It should be the opposite

[wicked quiver]

Even then, there's only so much stamina you can spend daily.

[magic raft]

well, if it was fun, you'd spend the time playing no?

[main elm]

Well I don't think farming in any gacha is fun, it's fun when you can finish farming faster

This game it feels endless if u r whaling

[magic raft]

gacha doesnt always have to always be a monotonous farming on auto. theres ysstems to give players choices

[wicked quiver]

I could be wrong, but it seems the "fun" part of this game was supposed to be RTA. Unfortunately, it's not fun at all

[chrome meteor]

honestly im conflicted on this

[main elm]

The only games u enjoy farming in it are the games where the gameplay hooks you in

[chrome meteor]

Setting up a successful PVE farm team was pretty fun

More fun than e7 imo

[half lodge]

How can you make a 3 button auto pve fun?

[main elm]

That's not farming

[magic raft]

again, that's tied to fun

[main elm]

That's management

Big difference

[half lodge]

You literally cannot

[chrome meteor]

question

because hoenstly i don't know the answer

why do we need to have auto battle?

liek if we can 3 star a stage

we should just be able to skip it

why are we forced to wait?

[magic raft]

you literally can. more creative content, outside of auto battle

[chrome meteor]

i have same question for e7 too

is it just a gimmick to make to play?

instead of sweep and log off?

[main elm]

Farming is fun when it has that top dopamine.

Like killing stuff in diablo to see a BiS legendary drops

[chrome meteor]

just in general for gacha games

[wicked quiver]

low effort way of keeping you playing, maybe?

[main elm]

What's the dopamine we getting in threshold farm?

[outer falcon]

The only reason I stuck to SW back in the day was the usability of the chat window. That simple source of fun community in-game got a lot of my time and money that nothing else would've back when every single run was manually started

[chrome meteor]

gear itself

[main elm]

Did u feel very excited about a gear drop in ER ?

Or it's all pokerface

[chrome meteor]

i mean

[half lodge]

,,gameplay fun"

[chrome meteor]

kinda yea

[main elm]

That's why it's not fun

[chrome meteor]

u get excited when u see swift swift bulwark shells

u get excited when u see 4 Line speed eff acc main stat swiftsmite module drop

[half lodge]

Its still not fun gameplaywize you chase dopaminę from the drops/as proze

Prize

Its not fun gameplay

[chrome meteor]

idk

[half lodge]

You are taking about rewards

[chrome meteor]

i just don't think there's much of a point of talking about it

cuz ur not playing when farming anyways?

[tribal osprey]

very excited! It is going to hold me up for 10 years before the economy gets fucked up!

[half lodge]

Exactly bcs you cannot make IT fun its called farming bcs its a chore in everything

[chrome meteor]

yea

what was the point btw

[viral dune]

It gives engagement point. They track things like this seeing how many people login and how long they are online. And then they use this data to bait investors saying that the game is very active and alive, etc.

[chrome meteor]

i jumped into convo midway

[half lodge]

Some people enjoy doing repeating tasks

[chrome meteor]

no idea what u guys are talking about

[spark mural]

BRO AINT NO WAY

[chrome meteor]

yes way

[main elm]

Ppl are so fatigued from the PvE that RTA became an after thought for the community

[spark mural]

this is so sad

[tribal osprey]

wdym. devs listened

[spark mural]

they could wasted their time on actual skins

[tribal osprey]

we have skins

[chrome meteor]

idky why rta in etheria is so bad

[wicked quiver]

what do you mean? There are tons of people playing RTA. Just join the RTA discord and all 10 of them will tell you.

[chrome meteor]

lol

[spark mural]

rip bikini xiada

[chrome meteor]

like i doubt its fun to fight against fking barunka and harsetti either

[tribal osprey]

tf is wrong with light blue xiada?

[spark mural]

will never see it - we all will quit before it happens

[chrome meteor]

but i do remember my RTA phase last year when i played

and i was pretty addicted

up until the point where i couldnt push emp cuz too hard

but up to mid champion i was having a lot of fun

if i had even more units im sure i would enjoy even more

[zinc bronze]

[tribal osprey]

why dont you have the new skin?

fake etheria player

[zinc bronze]

I'd rather buy anything else than that

[spark mural]

bro

why they put jaqces and didn't remove sharon

[zinc bronze]

Why they put jacques man

[spark mural]

i hate these devs

[zinc bronze]

[tribal osprey]

wouldnt have happened if you were a pro gamer and bought the new skin

[zinc bronze]

put me out of my misery

[chrome meteor]

ok

[wicked quiver]

You can do that yourself by uninstalling

[chrome meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/utku-tokat-gif-21352213

[zinc bronze]

I think I need to cc jacque ads

[spark mural]

@zinc bronze can send me a screenshot of the events, the one w the pink skin 💀

[main elm]

Is there even any white knight left

[spark mural]

only if you talk about resets

[half lodge]

This guy which you have posted is also really weird

[spark mural]

because they paid for lattices ain't nobody getting them for free

[outer falcon]

It's funny how angry people are getting about a non gameplay affecting cosmetic

But understandable

[spark mural]

yeah but they could use that same amount of time in actual skins for the characters

[zinc bronze]

save your eyes

[spark mural]

and not rta background nobody gives a fuck right

[outer falcon]

Nobody saying a thing about the nice lil login event that came with it

[spark mural]

i want to see that

[main elm]

It's an open wound, this kind of shit is salt getting throw at it, if the game didn't leave u with a gaping wound stuff like that won't hurt at all

[wicked quiver]

It's more about the audacity to post it at that price, especially given the current state of the game

[outer falcon]

I saw it somewhere in general but it's like 4 pulls, an LD pull, a rainbow pull, and a couple hundred gems

[tribal osprey]

bold of you to assume I log in

[chrome meteor]

because the devs are supposed to be human, and humans should have brains. And humans with brains should use them. Otherwise, why were you born a human and not a fking cow

Even dogs learn tricks when you teach them. What about these devs? WHat have they learned since launch?

[edgy wind]

[spark mural]

oh thats cool

[outer falcon]

I'm excited for China launch

[rich badge]

hey now cows have brains too

[outer falcon]

One way or another it's gonna be fun

[tribal osprey]

[graceful ether]

Doubt the arena team is the same one that does model skins

[spark mural]

cbt tomorrow

[graceful ether]

Cock ball torture?

[spark mural]

yes.

[rich badge]

oh my.

[graceful ether]

Bro is that a game or am I missing something

[spark mural]

china closed beta test

[rich badge]

cock ball torture is a game, you can play with your friends!

[wicked quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-wait-a-minute-huh-gif-17932668

[rich badge]

playing etheria is a close approximation of it as well

[spark mural]

current meta is close to cbt

👍

[graceful ether]

Ohh wait that’s actually pretty exciting then

Wonder how the game is perceived there

[wicked quiver]

Probably pretty well at the beginning if they advertised as much as they do elsewhere

[graceful ether]

Yea it has some serious ground to stand on. Just need better events but id think China enjoys the challenge

[wicked quiver]

Idk why I'm still in the discord actually. Y'all take care and good luck on your future ER endeavors!

[chrome meteor]

[rich badge]

enjoy life after finishing the marathon 🫡

[chrome meteor]

GL on your LoS pulls~

[viral dune]

It worked really well in the beginning for us too. Until people started noticing their shitty treatment and then people stopped spending and left one by one.

[tribal osprey]

o7🫡

[naive wave]

Oh no
Purple Pikachu really left

[chrome meteor]

why tf do we have a paimoncry emote

in an etheria server

[naive wave]

Can't wait to see CN feedbacks get listened 0.1s after submission

[chrome meteor]

nani

[tribal osprey]

lmfao

[naive wave]

[outer falcon]

Supposedly they have a lot in the tank waiting for launch already

[rich badge]

i think my enjoyment of this game might be moving into full trainwreck mode

[chrome meteor]

i literally only did 1 map of ethernet rally

[outer falcon]

I finally got a keen fury edge count yesterday so I'm having fun for now

[chrome meteor]

and i haven't even finished normal mode for ember trek yet

[zinc bronze]

If the arena skin comes with lattice or a single character reset, people would surely but it

[chrome meteor]

[chrome meteor]

but then its pointless

ur not buying a skin

[naive wave]

Arena skin?

[chrome meteor]

ur just buying a fucking lattice

[zinc bronze]

You get the skin for free

[outer falcon]

I'm sure they value character resets at $400 internally

[naive wave]

Who got the arena skin?
Finally a real skin?

[zinc bronze]

We got new MC skin

[chrome meteor]

who's gonna tell him

[zinc bronze]

Which we can only see at trek and menu

[chrome meteor]

same price btw

[naive wave]

No way

[craggy rivet]

Its just a $50 png

No animations

[chrome meteor]

[craggy rivet]

Just buy a new game

[rich badge]

this is probably the best evidence for my "this game is a secret psychology experiment" theory

[craggy rivet]

With that money

[naive wave]

Didn't expect it to be only a map stage

[undone vortex]

when ppl said we want more skins

they thought people meant arena skins

the money they make from skins may or may not be used to pay off the micirosft powerpoint sub

[main elm]

Dw guys he is in the other side with me

[tribal osprey]

[naive wave]

They should just tie the skins to battle pass or something

Azur Lane and Snowbreak do the same, both have "easy" gacha in the sense that their main income is not from people buying gacha currency or premium currency

At first I even thought it would be similar to E7 where skins are "free", no need to spend real money. Just play for 2 weeks at most and you get enough to buy pass + skin

[zinc bronze]

bruh why is arena 1x by default even if I change it to 3x

[main elm]

I don't think I ever paid to E7 skin I have all of them

[chrome meteor]

honestly

[naive wave]

Well there are only 2 paid skins in E7

[main elm]

Except Arky Merc that's giga p2w

[chrome meteor]

if ER devs want to make money

just go talk to netflix

get licensing rights

[undone vortex]

i rmb when ai arena would kick u out to the main menu everytime u finish a battle

[chrome meteor]

and make a KPDH collab

[rich badge]

Yeah it got changed for some reason today

[chrome meteor]

instantly number 1 charts in app store and google play stores

[naive wave]

One is that Mercedes, tied to merch book?

The last one was Tamarinne's 2nd skin

[rich badge]

Along with the diting bug

[outer falcon]

Skins and special auras and animations are such a good way to incentivize RTA play without giving away too many progression rewards

[main elm]

I actually bought the 70$ artbook for it

[chrome meteor]

e7?

[main elm]

Yeah

[naive wave]

Art book + skin + icon frame
What else?

[chrome meteor]

wait

maybe in a year

[naive wave]

Oh. Those glasses and mouse pad?

[chrome meteor]

we can get KPDH collab in e7??

playable zoey???

they did aespa

so MAYBE

👀

[naive wave]

Now what did the defenders say about the arena skin I wonder

Then again the ones I know have already left the server

[main elm]

[naive wave]

Yes that one

[tribal osprey]

wdym it is fantastic! very f2p friendly!

[naive wave]

Funny how Mercedes despite being a main girl still doesn't have non paid only skins

[naive wave]

F2P friendly because F2P won't even consider buying that?

[tribal osprey]

You just need to remember that its a MARATHON NOT A SPRINT. and marathon your money!

[outer falcon]

Guys I can't stop saying "generic techno" to myself

[zinc bronze]

Atleast we have this

[spark mural]

and many other games do that and it works

[zinc bronze]

What does generic techno even mean

Like 'come to the most mid techno bar in the city'

[outer falcon]

Dj Marshmallow

[chrome meteor]

they literally could have not given this to us, and released this as part of what you get for buying the arena skin

and people would be less mad

am i wrong?

[zinc bronze]

Arena skin wouldn't have much hate if it was 10$ or less

[zinc bronze]

I just noticed that timecourt is just whitney stage

[chrome meteor]

what is timecourt

[twilit vault]

and the bar is where you fight Kraken in main story chapter 4 or something

[chrome meteor]

i didn't even logon today so >.>

[rich badge]

$10 asset flip, that's called efficiency!

Pure profit amirite

Show that to your shareholders

[zinc bronze]

Yeah it's just reused stages

[naive wave]

The funny ones are those that kept saying "I played xxxx for y years but I quit to be a tester of Etheria CBT"

*Quit Etheria not even 2 months after the current CBT started

[rich badge]

I quit the other gachas I was playing when etheria launched cause I was having so much fun with it

When I quit etheria I will be gacha free and can start rehab

[zinc bronze]

I dropped HSR for ER

[rich badge]

So honestly etheria goated for that

[naive wave]

Maybe they are just waiting for the launch date, they got tired testing the game and will come back later

[rich badge]

Bro they don't test this game

[zinc bronze]

Can't wait for global to release

This channel would get lively

[trim wing]

cn will fk them up big time, they have way more crybabies and toxic community

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-rogan-surprised-ohh-shocked-scared-gif-26533226

[twilit vault]

the arena skin is whatever because nobody will buy it like the chaku ring skins, but this does not bode well for the actual character skins

[subtle crag]

[zinc bronze]

It's the idea that they keep missing on what to do to make the current playerbase stay.

[gilded mirage]

This.

[twilit vault]

but they are also doing a poor job at cash grabbing too

[gilded mirage]

Even I'm burnt out man

[zinc bronze]

I'm just here to watch the chaos

[indigo oyster]

at least we're getting candy party🤡

[twilit vault]

if you want to rug pull the players there needs to be a rug to pull in the first place

[gilded mirage]

Ironically inferno farming is my favorites part

It's the other things that piss me off

[zinc bronze]

Team building is the fun part for me

The rewards for the effort you put on the other hand

[half lodge]

Arena skin monetization

Thread

Are the biggest cry babies i have ever seen

Seriously

What the expect from c more

Lol

XD

He literally didnevrrything

[viral dune]

Set yourself free and uninstall.

[zinc bronze]

Well. because c is the only communication we have

He's receiving all the backlash

[rich badge]

C is handling this well imo

[zinc bronze]

Yeah, he's doing pretty good

[half lodge]

He is, but the message is the same, he reads constant spamming about the same

[twilit vault]

it's pointless to get mad at c when he's not making any decisions regarding this arena skin thing & various other updates

[half lodge]

When he already told that he will share

[rich badge]

Well that's all he can do

He is just an intermediary

[zinc bronze]

Yo even my inferno starts at 1x WTF

[twilit vault]

the true marathon experience

[half lodge]

People seriously cannot move on due to fomo as kraugia said before people should take a brake and the come back

[zinc bronze]

It does 1x when you do single clears

[half lodge]

But that's how the gachas are designed sadly

[zinc bronze]

Also can we have dark moon hit aurora pls even with atk down

[twilit vault]

if i were in charge of achievements for this game, id make one called "Marathoner" which has you fight against Ember Trek Hard Astarte, only using 1x speed during the whole fight

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/behold-a-fiendish-masterpiece-cruel-unpleasant-devilish-gif-13227934

[naive wave]

Now that you mentioned it

I'm rarely here but when I am and see any of the special color account, it's always that one that I see

[chrome meteor]

i mean

on the bright side no one is actually attacking c this time

are they

[half lodge]

Yeah but you were spamming with the same stuff as he didnt know for some reason

[naive wave]

Don't know
Haven't checked other places here

[twilit vault]

CM budget low after Gacha Smack's first class flight to China

[chrome meteor]

i mean i was just stating why the arena skin monetization is a real problem and shouldn't be ignored, and why focusing solely on long term vision for the game while ignoring short term mistakes can be really dangerous

[zinc bronze]

He is in-charge of relaying player feedback after all

[chrome meteor]

other than killing an orphanage i think my takes are pretty reasonable for the most part too

[half lodge]

Yeah exactly

As Anyone didnt know and IT wasnt raised multiple times the 2nd part

The 1st one is valid

[chrome meteor]

idk u say he knows but his opinion is that the game is fine and we just need to get to the good changes long term

and its totally ok to disagree with my opinion

im just 1 player

but because he has a contrasting opinion

i just gave him my perspective supported by reasons why i believe in that perspective

i don't think thats too out of pocket?

[rich badge]

They do seem very confident that they will be here for a long time

[chrome meteor]

yea

which i mean, they know things i don't

but i don't agree with that perspective

so ill speak out

[rich badge]

The only way that would make sense is if they secured enough funding to be able to operate even without making profit

Which is common for startups

But you gotta get past that phase and into profitability or you're dead

[chrome meteor]

yea

and i mean

there are COUNTLESS business in the world

where the product they provide to customers

is actually great

yet because they don't know how to run a business

they fall to ruin

having a good product isn't good enough

[rich badge]

Need good management

[main elm]

Idk why what u saying giving me Pirate software vibes

[rich badge]

The skills to create a product and to do everything else for a business are quite different

[chrome meteor]

yes

i've literally said this

week 1

they need to hire someone for the actual management of the game

someone with fucking common sense

[half lodge]

XD

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-what-that-means-i-have-no-clue-what-youre-talking-about-clueless-huh-what-gif-17107312

[chrome meteor]

"XD: Great, you're hired"

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/mogi-mogi-cet-mogi-fren-fren-ada-peepo-gif-12529637841348568101

[gilded mirage]

There's no other good games rn

[half lodge]

Yh there are no good games definetly

Very wise take

[gilded mirage]

Fine,.adding a modifier. There are no good new games

Need October to come

Or December

[half lodge]

Snake eater just released

[gilded mirage]

And then it's a coin flip if those will be good games

[half lodge]

Chronos the new dawn next week

[gilded mirage]

What the fuck is that

[half lodge]

Okay

[zinc bronze]

Is the new kaiju no 8 worth trying?

Heard it realeses at 31

[gilded mirage]

Like, obviously we talking about gacha games not normies games

[gilded mirage]

Most IP games are cash grabs

[opal tiger]

You guys think Star Savior will be good?

[half lodge]

Only gacha games

[glacial zinc]

You eat snakes?
Or the snakes eat stuff?

[gilded mirage]

Yes, don't want your dipshit normie games or else I wouldn't even be here

[glacial zinc]

Or the snakes eat snakes?

[zinc bronze]

I'm just playing wuwa at the moment

[half lodge]

🗿

[rich badge]

You are a guy named Snake and you can in fact eat snakes

Among other things

[gilded mirage]

Yes or atleast will have better character designs lmao. Counterside devs cook character design wise

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/oooh-chris-pratt-parks-and-rec-surprised-shocked-gif-14609379

[orchid needle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-crazy-shocked-surprised-flames-gif-16577214

Hey guys how's the neon mirage even-

[gilded mirage]

It also isn't a direct competitor unless it's mobile. ER is great, can play while taking a dump, in bed or working

[half lodge]

Here you are right o have to admit

[glacial zinc]

Just buy a laptop

[gilded mirage]

You use a laptop while you shit?!

[glacial zinc]

I could

https://tenor.com/view/luke-skywalker-underestimate-quotes-star-wars-gif-11834125

[gilded mirage]

Feels like the radiation would fry your balls (no idea if it's true, but that's what it feels like. I never put my laptop above my balls without a pillow in between)

[glacial zinc]

It surely would make them a bit toastier

[gilded mirage]

But yeah, laptop/PC games can't replace mobile games

[viral dune]

You're supposed to play etheria while marathoning. So you can marathon the marathon as marathoners.

[zinc bronze]

Them decreasing the arena skin price mid event would be funny

[gilded mirage]

I mean, I did play it while hiking up a mountain until I lost signal far up

[glacial zinc]

You did what?

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-say-what-what-gif-15506364

[gilded mirage]

Yeah it was 2x event bro

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-get-this-man-a-gold-get-this-man-a-trophy-comedy-gold-art-gold-gif-25837757

[rich badge]

The heat would definitely fry something

[chrome meteor]

and thats why his lily is 360 speed

😎

[gilded mirage]

I wish