91,320 let keep track the number 
#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
tame ivy
wet vault
they removed 3 ticks for starter
errant mountain
The fact that they put a fuckin wheel in the tournament lmao
they so love RNG
its insane
graceful cradle
Mhm besides Car, like almost none of the other streamers were as enthusiastic about ER as they were E7s new patch
main elm
Damn the economy nerf was YD fault, how could he
errant mountain
I mean its in theory a good idea until you just realize E7 is way less stressful
wet vault
fallow hornet
Yeah etheria at the first month was stressful as hell
errant mountain
They took all the systems from E7 and then added a lot of issues to it
They took molas and then made them fucking unobtainable
wet vault
yeah taking the innate res for fun
errant mountain
They literally copy pasted the draft system
fallow hornet
The ccs were gatekeeping and those with lily was just speed running
errant mountain
took the innate res too
graceful cradle
I mean its in theory a good idea until you just realize E7 is way less stressful
Yup for sure and honestly the pvp has a lot more depth and strategy like i broke it down earlier this morning but ER pvp while fun is kind of very superficial
errant mountain
Why does E7 even have innate res
radiant jolt
they saw e7 awakening system for stats and thought what if we put it behind lattices
graceful cradle
Cuz control would cook
main elm
Why does E7 even have innate res
Will be removed for PvE... Soon
wet vault
imagine putting innate res in pve
errant mountain
Yup for sure and honestly the pvp has a lot more depth and strategy like i broke...
Etheria PVP was kinda fun but like the issue is it's fucking impossible to play it
radiant jolt
they removed the 15% res in pvp?
wet vault
naw
errant mountain
imagine putting innate res in pve
Etheria devs have an RNG fetish ofc they did
wet vault
in pve only
radiant jolt
oh
main elm
No 15% res in PvP is healthy
fallow hornet
Will be removed for PvE... Soon
Thats when eos7 happens
graceful cradle
Etheria PVP was kinda fun but like the issue is it's fucking impossible to play ...
Even if it wasn't like I said earlier who here actually tracks CDs in a game where Lily or Tsuk isn't in it
main elm
Debuffers will be too strong otherwise
wet vault
i really hate 15% but there are game i just 15% everything and win back
i have 2 sides
fallow hornet
They removing unequip cost after 7 years we headed to eos
graceful cradle
There's a bunch of other little things but ER pvp is kinda really facerolly
main elm
No 15% inate res will make PvP braindead, coz it existing makes top GW and RTA plays consider it when making comps
wet vault
brainstorming
graceful cradle
Control would cook everything
main elm
To enable more strategies
wet vault
then again I love soulburn
errant mountain
I mean you can kinda just ignore ER soulburn so it kinda just screws over characters who dont have ignore ER soulburn
wet vault
just to be killed again when maria released
main elm
I mean you can kinda just ignore ER soulburn so it kinda just screws over charac...
And make moona less of an impactful character
Do u want to hurt the big booba mommy
wet vault
nuh uh
main elm
If only Ainz have ignore ER
main elm
wet vault
imagine wtene has ignore soulburn
errant mountain
Do u want to hurt the big booba mommy
I mean I dont have her soooooo
errant mountain
imagine wtene has ignore soulburn
I'd cry
main elm
https://imgur.com/a/vhcaC2P
Damn high FPS gif
naive wave
If only Ainz have ignore ER
No thank you
errant mountain
https://imgur.com/a/vhcaC2P
God the game's animations are so good
naive wave
errant mountain
Ainz is that one guy who has the one shot debuff right
wet vault
why is bro gifs look so high fps?
wet vault
what is my ahh gif
errant mountain
LIKE THE GAME IS OVER ALREADY PUT THE FIRES IN THE BAG
Use ainz to one shot in 12 turns or use straze to one shot in 1 turn
main elm
why is bro gifs look so high fps?
Idk, I'd like to take a look at this gif library it's insane
errant mountain
hmmm im not sure who to pick here
naive wave
why is bro gifs look so high fps?
Shame the one that clipped this can't access imgur anymore
errant mountain
Straze also has some AoE too
graceful cradle
why is bro gifs look so high fps?
If they are the gifs I shared it's because I clipped in 4k from the actual showcase then made them gifs
Did it for Aria LTene and LMeru
main elm
wet vault
https://imgur.com/a/sGBxAeb
havent seen yours but this gif is what i was talking ab
fallow hornet
fallow hornet
Reason I stopped playing for a while, they massacred my boy
Bro fr
I was hyped to see overlord collab only to see them make him a meme
wet vault
main elm
errant mountain
Honestly im kinda glad theres not a giga meta collab unit
cuz they're prob never getting reruns
main elm
my goat ed still meta today
Best boy
graceful cradle
Honestly im kinda glad theres not a giga meta collab unit
Have you seen Albedo? She's still the best raw mit knight in the game
Though I guess post buff Krau is probably up there now too
wet vault
raw
main elm
Hard to justify a slot for Albedo when all those broken booba tank b!tches exists
graceful cradle
Ed actually kinda good into LTene though I wouldn't call him meta
fallow hornet
my goat ed still meta today
Meta is a hard word. He does his job if he doesnt get rnged.
graceful cradle
Beni a GW god
errant mountain
Have you seen Albedo? She's still the best raw mit knight in the game
FUCK I THOUGHT IT WAS BLUE KRAU
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
fallow hornet
Hard to justify a slot for Albedo when all those broken booba tank b!tches exist...
Yeah albedo is old news
cedar aspenBOT
prof.bean1 has been warned
main elm
wet vault
Meta is a hard word. He does his job if he doesnt get rnged.
it was just a dose of copium
errant mountain
Krau is such a gigachad
graceful cradle
You could argue they're roughly the same give or take since they are able to mit around the same amount of damage
fallow hornet
Barunka fcc illynav and belian are the meta
main elm
Bro remained relevant for 7 straight years
fallow hornet
graceful cradle
But one slaps tf out of Flan and the other baits her
graceful cradle
Barunka fcc illynav and belian are the meta
That still doesn't mean any of them have better mit than her
It juat means they do more
errant mountain
AHHH FLAN NOOO
graceful cradle
She's still the best raw mit in the game
errant mountain
AS flan scary :(
fallow hornet
That still doesn't mean any of them have better mit than her
Look man i didnt say she wasnt the best mit
wet vault
oh okay
graceful cradle
Look man i didnt say she wasnt the best mit
No but I did then you're like but shes old news!!
errant mountain
They're never rerunning a collab unit right
main elm
Meta is splash damage and mort
graceful cradle
Never said she was meta just that she reduces the most damage
main elm
She ain't doin much
fallow hornet
No but I did then you're like but shes old news!!
Shes old news now yes
errant mountain
Mort my beloved
graceful cradle
They're never rerunning a collab unit right
I don't think so no
fallow hornet
U can still use albedo against cleave but the meta knights are the ones i listed
errant mountain
I don't think so no
Praying to god none of them ever become meta
graceful cradle
Praying to god none of them ever become meta
Beni is one of the better LWP GW answers LOL
errant mountain
Its festive eda but she came off temu
main elm
Trying to cleave in E7 atm is as hard as trying to fix ER problems
errant mountain
Beni is one of the better LWP GW answers LOL
I dont even know who beni is but FUUUUUUUUUU
graceful cradle
Benimaru?
wet vault
before festive eda she was the nightmare like harsetti and barunka these days
errant mountain
isnt she a 4* lol
main elm
wet vault
isnt she a 4* lol
yes but she was a nightmare
naive wave
wet vault
at least for cleavers
errant mountain
yes but she was a nightmare
4* being meta lol
Tbf its not like theres no good 4* currently
wet vault
adin
graceful cradle
I mean have you seen New Kid Adin
main elm
The longest 4* meta was TSurin
graceful cradle
That unit is a menace
wet vault
nah bbk is decent
errant mountain
both r pretty good right
naive wave
Amiki
A good 3*
fallow hornet
The longest 4* meta was TSurin
Her back then was cancer lol
wet vault
amirmir is cancer
fallow hornet
Fcc tsurin landy
errant mountain
I REMEMBERED I WAS HATING SOMEONE ELSE WITH RIPOSTE BESIDES AS FLAN
graceful cradle
So is Savior which is equally worrying
errant mountain
AND THE OTHER PERSON IS HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ITS ML ADINNNNNNN
wet vault
back when i pulled for 10 thousands copies of gl
main elm
Her back then was cancer lol
Tsurin was aids yeah
Riolet with repost might be built with 0 speed
Riposte prob the most dangerous on Riolet
main elm
Coz his S1s are all he needs to fully use his kit
main elm
Zio enjoyers prob loathes you
main elm
I mean it's apparent that you do
wet vault
main elm
graceful cradle
These memes kill me
main elm
They won't, the nakhwol wisher lost
wet vault
thats all i have lol
wet vault
They won't, the nakhwol wisher lost
😭
fallow hornet
pls revive nahkwol
graceful cradle
There's a luna one too
wet vault
kurkurbat was nahkwol wisher right?
main elm
naive wave
main elm
graceful cradle
Lmao
main elm
Ngl moona deleted turn 2 teams from the game on her release
wet vault
5/5 meme achieved
graceful cradle
That was the season i barely missed Emp cutoff sad sad
fallow hornet
Ngl moona deleted turn 2 teams from the game on her release <:FrogCoolCry:134208...
Yeah was pretty broken, lost my chance at legend cause of her release
Ended 3750 pts when legend was 3807 pts
main elm
Harsetti release was to stop Moona's madness
main elm
fallow hornet
Harsetti release was to stop Moona's madness
A mistake
I pitied her only to preban her in rta
main elm
fallow hornet
Her boobs were just too tempting
naive wave
wet vault
idk why but i dont see ppl drafting yenya when facing har nowadays
main elm
Aram
main elm
Tbh she wasn't a REAL problem before yenya
fallow hornet
Young gun senya and mort + Albedo were shit times
main elm
I didn't have much trouble in GW against her in top30
wet vault
true
fallow hornet
main elm
Ppl hate her coz I know lot of accounts just speed chasing and not really caring about anything else
So they have shit tank gear
Or bruiser gear
wet vault
its because they didnt farm for bloodbaths and lighthouse
naive wave
E7WC Day 3 soon
Though some people will just watch streamers streaming E7WC
fallow hornet
Ppl hate her coz I know lot of accounts just speed chasing and not really caring...
That would be me
Tho ive upped my bruiser gear not by choice
fallow hornet
E7WC Day 3 soon
Though some people will just watch streamers streaming E7WC <:Fu...
Er devs definitely got inspired by that hence why we got ews in month 1 of the game
Ews when the fate of the game isnt stable
Crazy work by devs
naive wave
Way too early
main elm
These E7 YT posts were pretty wild
fallow hornet
These E7 YT posts were pretty wild
The admin knows
Thats why they are going hard with gooner content
Which im not complaining
main elm
Gooners and lolicons
fallow hornet
The pandering to lolicons should be a crime
main elm
Apparently half the community are
fallow hornet
Send them to the fbi
main elm
Statistically speaking
fallow hornet
The nasty comments on frida and senya shows lol
main elm
naive wave
What about the in game reviews?
fallow hornet
What about the in game reviews?
Pedos from blue archive
wet vault
zinc bronze
I forgot my wuwa account
outer falcon
why the fuck does 24 hard sharon have the fucking random stun mechanic from the trek boss
undone vortex
cuz shes quirky
outer falcon
she should find her 13th reason why
radiant jolt
is it random? i thought the adds apply a debuff or something
outer falcon
they do
outer falcon
the mechanic should be her gagging on me
radiant jolt
trueeee
outer falcon
anyway it's over now 
radiant jolt
gz
warped stump
man trying to play pure cleave in rta feels so bad
mostly cause theres not shit f or options lmao
if my opponent steals yeli or mass im like hmm
fallow hornet
lmao same
i have yet to build rin
cause i was busy building pve units
rta is a shitshow
warped stump
i wonder if rin would actually work for me lol
outer falcon
I know Yeon keeps cooking hard with Batsby on stream but idk if anything's out of the oven yet
gilded mason
this is whatever chat we want it to be
Can it be gooner chat
zinc bronze
Any wuwa enjoyers here who can tell me if should I just start over or play my old account. I stopped playing at jinshi banner
outer falcon
Rin can get a pretty beefy mult if you get her over like 300 speed
outer falcon
Any wuwa enjoyers here who can tell me if should I just start over or play my ol...
flashbang incoming
Sounds pretty good
graceful juniper
lightmode? heretic
graceful juniper
If only I can remember what email I used <:FrogCoolCry:1342089872394948658>
i you start over i remember you can have new banner that let you pull until new character up to shorekeeper i think?
main elm
https://tenor.com/view/montypython-witch-burnthewitch-gif-5477103
Sir can you explain what's going on in this gentleman head?
warped stump
average bb defender
gilded mason
Sir can you explain what's going on in this gentleman head?
https://tenor.com/view/dean-winchester-supernatural-relatable-relatablemoods-gif-7719768255809338997
undone vortex
Sir can you explain what's going on in this gentleman head?
tag em and ask
main elm
Already tagged him alot, he got annoyed and stopped talking
waxen wedge
Sir can you explain what's going on in this gentleman head?
well combine those into 1 sentence: it doesnt need a nerf, it shouldnt even exist 
main elm
Dude haywired when I irritated him
quasi sorrel
undone vortex
KILLS
half lodge
this is the logic when all the charcaters are literally women which defnietyly doesnt mean that the game is cash grab for gooners
vague violet
Starsavior is just harem trash isn't it?
Can't be bothered when I'm married and they regularly put out
gilded mason
you could try it out first
vague violet
you could try it out first
Nah. No interest in harem stuff. it always just gets cringe at a certain point.
undone vortex
harem games are so predictable
I wanna be shocked
you know how the characters look and act before diving in yk
main elm
Don't over hype it, I genuinely think it'll be really shit
warped stump
e7 is not dying to any new gen game
until people make a game that isnt just shit waifu cashgrab or just isnt shit in general
e7 even appeals to the g**ners so its doomed
fallow hornet
e7 even appeals to the g\*\*ners so its doomed
Yes can confirm
main elm
It's alright it's 2025 that word is legitimized no need for rhe censorship
warped stump
i am a time traveler from 2018 back then we used to stone the g**ners
so i cant say it or else the time travel attack squad will arrive
to beat them
fallow hornet
Yeah pretty disrespectful to censor the word gooners when the arsenal fans are called the gooners
fallow hornet
Football club
main elm
e7 even appeals to the g\*\*ners so its doomed
It was gooner since 2018
U forgot Luna and Yufine faces
main elm
Was abit weird life cycle tho
main elm
Ain't into fat wabbits dw
fallow hornet
ppl gooning is weird
Depends whether u guy or girl
Guy gooning is acceptable and respected
warped stump
guys think with their dik a bit too much
girls idk where the hell it comes from
this is not something i would understand so i do not pretend to
fallow hornet
Thats why only fans is a more lucrative means of income
main elm
E7 started off as goonish
Then massive censorship, nerfing boob sizes, extra clothing, made their best artist quit.
Then it's becoming more gooner than 2018
fallow hornet
E7 started off as goonish
Then massive censorship, nerfing boob sizes, extra cl...
I cant forget that china censorship
main elm
Did u see Ainz in China was censored?
fallow hornet
Aria fought hard for womens right
main elm
In E7 China
wet vault
Did u see Ainz in China was censored?
why is ainz getting censored 😭
main elm
Skeleton is haram in China
fallow hornet
Did u see Ainz in China was censored?
Cant let them see his bony body
fallow hornet
why is ainz getting censored 😭
He is too sexy
main elm
They gave him the mask from season 1
main elm
China has 3 major censorship:
Large Boobs
Skeletons
Black ppl
fallow hornet
China has 3 major censorship:
Large Boobs
Skeletons
Black ppl
Thats why i dont support the ccp
wet vault
i killed ppl through picture
fallow hornet
I never forgiving them for nerfing SSV booba
Yeah that hit me hard
wet vault
wet vault
i played doki doki literature club
half lodge
i am a certified dog for example
wet vault
graceful cradle
Fun fact censoring skeletons in CN is actually the Streisand effect in full force
main elm
i am a certified dog for example
graceful cradle
It's not actually a law there but something we in the west perpetuate as a misunderstanding and censor ourselves
Nudity and stuff is though so like that needs to be censored
fallow hornet
so why your nickname monika
wet vault
https://tenor.com/view/logging-into-discord-colors-meme-mtf-loging-gif-143368262...
help i forgor ab this for too long
😭
warped stump
https://tenor.com/view/logging-into-discord-colors-meme-mtf-loging-gif-143368262...
LMAO
not this
graceful cradle
https://tenor.com/view/logging-into-discord-colors-meme-mtf-loging-gif-143368262...
Why come
main elm
I have a Wario as main pfp what does that make me
half lodge
I have a Wario as main pfp what does that make me <:NapsRatOmegaFloofConcernThin...
you have chinese dog
main elm
I'm trying 
half lodge
Zae go sleep its probably sleeping time in the west
main elm
Fr I should drop the phone...
half lodge
u should be time around me its morning isnt it
wet vault
i should take a nap too
main elm
It's giving me sleep anxiety
wet vault
why am I not sleeping on sunday
graceful cradle
Zae go sleep its probably sleeping time in the west
I just woke up lol I usually get up for work in 90 mins
main elm
Well I'm already physically exhausted but mind is playing the intended ER experience
graceful cradle
Lol ahh I see understandable
ripe kraken
General chat is as dead as desert
indigo oyster
they marathoning another game
tiny sage
General chat is as dead as desert
Yeah it has been since the Massive Explosion of Chatters on Nin's Release Drama
then it died...
Rengo still out of Reach
vague violet
they marathoning another game
They never specified which marathon to run
tiny sage
General chat is as dead as desert
Oh also them removing the pulls
And the RTA Community incident
vague violet
Rengo still out of Reach
It's kinda hilarious that all they had to do was a.) slight nerf to Rengo RNG and/ or damage b.) add more lattices or change where the substats unlock, particularly speed. And all this drama could have been mostly avoided, or at least mitigated.
But they dug in their heels and that just never works in this market or economy
So many choices people just go "nah"
Honorable mention to the Rev nerf for killing players too
fallow hornet
My guild dying
Say less i need one more person to join my guild so i can stop checking recruitment channel
half lodge
Some of the top ones are deciding if they should leave lol
they should
tiny sage
https://tenor.com/view/naruto-sasuke-beat-up-beat-down-anime-gif-15855338
Do I run it back
indigo oyster
lock as soon as thread created
fallow hornet
tiny sage
fallow hornet
<:HOLY:1382054533382803586>
errant ravine
It's kinda hilarious that all they had to do was a.) slight nerf to Rengo RNG an...
I love their double down of: they are actually good units, you just need time to test them 😉😉
It’s always: It’s you players the problem, perhaps you are all sprinters?
And it’s never: we listened and we are going to do A, B and C to course correct
But of course, when your ego is all high and mighty and you never have bad ideas it’s always someone else’s fault.
And in this case: it’s the players, clearly we all aren’t good enough for this mega marathon 😣
turbid ridge
They go by data which is probaly right ultimatly. Like nerfs buff meta or even pve stuff. They test it all with full max units and its probally somehow balanced. The problem is we cant max units fast enough and we cant pivot into diffrent strats. It feels shit to play and in the end if you dont have fun you quit so they rly need to start find a middleground.
weak meteor
they probably do all their tests with p5, 555 units and yet refuse to acknowledge lattice drought situation
also they said they were going to communicate more and yet it feels like they are cutting off communications even more lmao
tiny sage
Thoughts?
glacial zinc
<:HMMGE:1292223937693876255> Thoughts?
fallow hornet
<:HMMGE:1292223937693876255> Thoughts?
Looks good
weak meteor
have u tried count?
glacial zinc
without wanting to <:pepe_kmss:606578509992820761>
weak meteor
probably u can change 1 atk% bonus to crit dmg bonus right side?
since u probably hit the cap per hit on rev with so much atk already
tiny sage
probably u can change 1 atk% bonus to crit dmg bonus right side?
Dont have one
weak meteor
ah i meant in the sense of if u wanna improve it more
tiny sage
@fallow hornet How do people struggle to have reconfig chips
I will never know
I can only assume they are not recycling their Red Shells....
tiny sage
Or just use them
On what?
tiny sage
fallow hornet
tiny sage
They must have skill issue
Aite new rule of engagement anyone who says that inferno doesn't need to be nerfed. We ask them if they think the Reconfig Chip Economy is fine.
tiny sage
Thats the point
I think its fine tbh....
A Slight buff to Dreambaa would be good though
glacial zinc
@quiet verge there is no reconfig chip shortage
Just do what kenny does
fallow hornet
Aite new rule of engagement anyone who says that inferno doesn't need to be nerf...
Must not be managing their resource properly
tiny sage
im down to 981 after rolling 4 correct stat Red's
i started at 16k
i was just dum and forgor to take a screenshot
quiet verge
tiny sage
Alright I now have 2 lattice into Nin time to see if she bussin yet
glacial zinc
tiny sage
Whats your shell inventory at?
fallow hornet
As jack would say inexperienced players arent efficient and waste their resources so i urge they use their resources efficiently so this issue doesnt become a regular occurance.
tiny sage
subtle crag
tiny sage
quiet verge
spending 1k chips just to see that u get 0 red speed is skill issue indeed
tiny sage
spending 1k chips just to see that u get 0 red speed is skill issue indeed
took me 4k each red on average
tiny sage
Also the amount of chips u get is also rng
Yeah it is
Have you done the Pro Strat yet?
Where you level a Shell to Level 20 check the first two and if you don't like em scrap it?
gilded mason
Hi guys etheria saved?
tiny sage
Hi guys etheria saved?
quiet verge
Where you level a Shell to Level 20 check the first two and if you don't like em...
U think i have that much needed fodder?
tiny sage
Not yet
quiet verge
quiet verge
Like today i spended 1000+ stamina on rengo and barely see any count at all and i need gazillion of it to roll subs that way
vague violet
Aite new rule of engagement anyone who says that inferno doesn't need to be nerf...
I don’t think we need to. It’s a general IQ test if they think that “no” he doesn’t need to be nerfed, we know we’re dealing with a special Olympian.
errant ravine
Like today i spended 1000+ stamina on rengo and barely see any count at all and ...
What is a day for a marathoner? Absolutely nothing, just 1/365 of an average year, go again tomorrow! You have this! 🙌🏼
twilit vault
I don’t think we need to. It’s a general IQ test if they think that “no” he does...
a marathoner, even
quiet verge
Just saying that this method of rolling subs require a lot of drops of shell that u want to roll which u might not get
twilit vault
twilit vault
Just saying that this method of rolling subs require a lot of drops of shell tha...
leveling up to 10 is still the best way to save chips & save good 1st slot passives though
half lodge
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
twilit vault
what's funny about the CZN dev interview is the letter z was so greyed out it almost read Chaos Ero Nightmare on the top left
gilded mason
what's funny about the CZN dev interview is the letter z was so greyed out it al...
It was intentional
twilit vault
It was intentional
undoubtedly
subtle crag
Not really
subtle crag
None ?
Most reasons slow mode is used is when people become crazy during a maintenance cause you guys are spamming
vital arrow
@outer falcon were u on when that azur dude was losing his mind in global chat? Or did u just miss it lol
outer falcon
<@905249242627588146> were u on when that azur dude was losing his mind in globa...
I was just on to reset Rengo farm I popped off immediately after saying hi lol
vital arrow
I was just on to reset Rengo farm I popped off immediately after saying hi lol
Ohhhhh ok gotcha. Dude was losing his mind cause some dude said “game dead” and I made a joke saying “I remember when chat channels were up to 2018” started calling us whiners and idiots and 13yr olds
It was magical
I don’t type much in game tho bc the chat on mobile is asscheeks
vital arrow
Dude was like “explain to me how it’s dead the games not dead yall are just whiny idiots this game is amazing 🤓”
I was like bro I’m not writing u a thesis on this shit chat box. Go to discord if u wanna talk
LETS GO BOYS IT ONLY TOOK 3 WEEKS TO ACQUIRE MY FIRST ONE!!!!!
outer falcon
glacial zinc
LETS GO BOYS IT ONLY TOOK 3 WEEKS TO ACQUIRE MY FIRST ONE!!!!!
Damn
Rng was kind to you
glacial zinc
half lodge
LETS GO BOYS IT ONLY TOOK 3 WEEKS TO ACQUIRE MY FIRST ONE!!!!!
Marathon won
vital arrow
Marathon won
fallow thorn
this is normally the e7 thread right - who am i going for?
main elm
senya and politis are the better picks
fallow thorn
ofc you'd pick the two females 
viral dune
SPP probably the best pick there.
You can get Zio for free if you wish. Later we get a Boss selector ticket.
viral dune
Dude was like “explain to me how it’s dead the games not dead yall are just whin...
Game's not dead
Rta queuing takes forever
Make it make sense.
outer falcon
I was getting clowned on even a month ago for saying queue times were getting long enough in plat to indicate a huge drop in playerbase
Cause they thought I was whining about having 30s-1m queues or whatever
half lodge
>Game's not dead
>Rta queuing takes forever
Make it make sense.
I mean he wasnt exactly wrong
outer falcon
But all I was saying was that when your casual ranks can't fill a match in like 10-30, you're dying
At prime times
half lodge
yh i was serisouly this the 1st week when i have waited in gold for like 2min matches
and most of the matches were arleady bruisers sleeping matches
in g1
g3/
XDDDDDDDDD
glacial zinc
Nah, devs artificially inflated qeue times for peak marathon experience
outer falcon
Like I find matches instantly on my silver summon hoarding alt in SW at almost any time of day
viral dune
Yeah. I'm at Gold 1 and queuing takes like 2-3 mins per match
half lodge
E7 RTA que still instant at all brackets even at pre-season
i woudlnt say instant
but 30 sec
main elm
I haven't played RTA recently but I never waited 30 sec for a match tbh
half lodge
I am in silver in e7
main elm
come to think of it, It's very rare to see below gold
half lodge
yh when i have been planiyg at the end of the season i was getting stomped by people wiht all limited characters trying to reach harsetti
main elm
they prob did something with the match making so higher ranks doesn't que up with new player RTA
glacial zinc
Supervive match time for high ranks being at 10-30 minutes
half lodge
supervive is a game which couldnt succed sadly
glacial zinc
supervive is a game which couldnt succed sadly
What happened to it tho?
half lodge
What do you mean? There is no place on the market for a high skilled pvp moba like expierience
just that
main elm
it couldn't succeed coz MOBA in 2025
half lodge
the game is great
main elm
washed off genre
half lodge
exactly what i siad
people dont want to spend another liek 200/300 hours mastering new game
the games are focusing more and more on shorter lfiesapns/shorter game time expierences
main elm
ppl unironically want mmorpgs, even though it's a much older genre and presumed dead
half lodge
and people who would like a competetive games like that dont abbandodn their old ones
Both mmorpgs and gachas give you the sense of constant progressinos
of characters/builds etc
just the time requeired change
main elm
half lodge
did you play gw2 maybe healfree ever?
main elm
I played almost all mmorpgs at a high end level so yes
cleared every content GW2 had to offer
then dropped it
well, the playable mmorpgs
main elm
GW2 one of the better mmorpgs, but it lacks purpose and content
once u done the fractuals ( at least at my time ) game offer nothing besides wait time simulator for world bosses events
The only mmorpgs that has a fun high end content you'd like to play everyday is WoW M+
rest of mmorpgs fails to follow that formula
half lodge
I played the longest lao but the game got problem that like 90% of the population quit just as here due to being a marathon not a sprint
half lodge
lost ark online
main elm
ah yeah ofc
half lodge
the game reached peak on steam
main elm
I dropped lao after 3 months
half lodge
and then died due to time commitment
main elm
couldn't handle the daily grind, though I did have a static and we're clearing everything
half lodge
and people got the same arguemnts as here like
marathon not a sprint
the resources infaltion
time commitment is okay
solid moat
finally got there.....
half lodge
And of course the game doesnt died completly because all have will have some niche population and i forsee this also here
main elm
one of the best mmorpgs I played was SWTOR, it had everything
one of the best leveling experiences, great end game raids, not too difficult like mythic wow, best pvp BGs ever.
what happened to it is basically EA seeing it being a contender and being really good and decided to milk it further, make it F2P and close 70% of the content behind paywall
they tried to fix their mistake later but it's too late, majority left it
half lodge
they tried to fix their mistake later but it's too late, majority left it
in lao after thime they also listened to the community and recued the playertime needed but it happened after 2/3 y
and as you probably know people didnt come back
despite returnee events
main elm
damn, ER will be good after 2 years then 
tribal osprey
and people got the same arguemnts as here like
marathon not a sprint
the resourc...
Sir I don’t think you understand. It’s a MARATHON NOT a SPRINT
half lodge
its not an aiport you dont have to annouce your departure
tribal osprey
its not an aiport you dont have to annouce your departure
This is a marathon. Not a Wendy’s
main elm
issue is lot of games forget the reason why ppl play their games, "fun"
none of the endgame content in FFXIV is "fun", you just do it because that's the content you "need" to do, the difficulty can be appealing for some ppl to feel good about themselves but in reality it's all a scripted fight you need to remember, It's not fun playing a memory game
That's the issue with WoW aswell, the raids are not fun, just difficult with a huge waste of time, M+ really saved WoW from going extinct, and I believe FFXIV would go extinct the moment ppl stop using the game as ERP dating simulator
tribal osprey
issue is lot of games forget the reason why ppl play their games, "fun"
none of the endgame content in FFXIV is "fun", you just do it because that's the content you "need" to do, the difficulty can be appealing for some ppl to feel good about themselves but in reality it's all a scripted fight you need to remember, It's not fun playing a memory game
That's the issue with WoW aswell, the raids are not fun, just difficult with a huge waste of time, M+ really saved WoW from going extinct, and I believe FFXIV would go extinct the moment ppl stop using the game as ERP dating simulator
half lodge
even with the hard ember trrek here
i dont htink you can make it fun in its cureent design in any way
main elm
bit short for a pasta mate
half lodge
Heard it got infested with bots
at launch and to this day
tribal osprey
bit short for a pasta mate
Size doesn’t matter
main elm
FFXIV is 70% bots, coz that's the only way to play the game
consistently
devs know it, and they don't ban u
I was personally using a bot to do the mundane stuff
and the amount of ppl using the same bot as I'm hoooolllleeeeyyy
whole community
outer falcon
That's where I'm at with Warframe
I've done everything I consider fun and there's nothing left but chores and the hour or 2 of weeklies I can be bothered to run with the boys
But with only chores left and no fun left behind the chores, I have no reason to do chores
main elm
ppl simply need to adapt the M+ WoW formula, with decent gameplay ofc
FFXIV can never do that coz gameplay is dogshit with their 2.5 GCD
molasses
radiant jolt
I was personally using a bot to do the mundane stuff
ok but do u bot in etheria 😉
main elm
If I knew one I 100% would
gilded mason
Should have bought cheats for etheria back then
radiant jolt
lmao
main elm
if bot existed I would 100% continue playing the game no cap
half lodge
Could have had some fun at least
have you login since the decsiino not to login dialy
gilded mason
have you login since the decsiino not to login dialy
Nope
radiant jolt
and keep ur weekend
gilded mason
Maybe next patch i'll login to see how they screwed up again
Gotta see it firsthand
main elm
1 game I played had built-in bot with offline farming, smartest shit ever, idk why lot of games doesn't do that
u do the important stuff and let the bot do the chores
radiant jolt
gotta pump those playtime numbers
viral dune
I already lost interest. I still farm for resources but I don't try to improve my gears at all. It's just multiple rng fest and even if you get perfect 3 matrix with spd substat, the rolls are gonna be shit.
And it's stupid how in pve farming spd really matters and you need god tier spd like 290+ or so.
gilded mason
1 game I played had built-in bot with offline farming, smartest shit ever, idk w...
Jack says they want players to interact with the game
main elm
want to grind ?
take ur character to a spot, activate the bot and tell him how to use the skills
sleep, wake up = 9hrs of non-stop farming
gilded mason
I'd rather interact with cyanide
gilded mason
I already lost interest. I still farm for resources but I don't try to improve m...
Yeah first time ive seen pve requiring pvp tier speed
main elm
even though that game had a bot to do allthe farming, it's still the most socially guild engaging gacha I ever played
gilded mason
main elm
coz it's a wargame
errant mountain
Jack says they want players to interact with the game
=They want you to waste your time
gilded mason
ER trying to be special but didnt realize that certain systems are there for a reason
glacial zinc
=They want you to waste your time
But i need to waste my time and somewhere
errant mountain
but did NOT copy the sweep feature 
E7s sweep is limited use and that's a different discussion but still
radiant jolt
that's patented technology smh
gilded mason
ER wont put sweep in
errant mountain
Yea they would've done it already
gilded mason
If you sweep you cant interact with etheria
We want players to interact with etheria
errant mountain
This is honestly the most stubborn dev team i've ever seen
The other stubborn ones just dont communicate but ER devs tried to and then went out of their way to gather info
to do nothing with it 
gilded mason
This is honestly the most stubborn dev team i've ever seen
E7 took 7 years to remove gold cost from.unequip
errant mountain
E7 took 7 years to remove gold cost from.unequip
Ok that is a good point I forgot about that one
main elm
they tried to be WoW for some reason, this PvE should be hard brainset
gilded mason
Being stubborn just leads to dead end
E7 could be stubborn because they didnt have a lot of competitors
Anime style game with beautiful animations with pvp and rta
Not many other games have that
In 2025 its different
main elm
gooner SW, the dream of lot of SW players
errant mountain
Tbf E7 also seems to be changing a lot of that stuff
making gear farming easier, removing the unequip cost, making all spirit altars open all week, gear presets, increased stam cap, etc
Could just be doing it for PR tho
gilded mason
Tbf E7 also seems to be changing a lot of that stuff
making gear farming easier...
Yeah becsuse they have the sense to see that they have a lot of competition now
They needed to improve
ER be like
Hurr durr
errant mountain
and this is why competition is good kids
main elm
Tbf E7 also seems to be changing a lot of that stuff
making gear farming easier...
E7 never once headbutted with players when they wanted something to change, ppl don't like to be ignored
sure some changes took time but blatant lying for changes player ask for no
gilded mason
sure some changes took time but blatant lying for changes player ask for no
Do E7 discord CMs talk crap in discord?
Thats probably the reason
main elm
they weren't that active in discord, they have presence but not that active
gilded mason
they weren't that active in discord, they have presence but not that active
Exactly how it should be
main elm
there are lot of bad CMs in E7 tho
gilded mason
E7 patch notes and announcements have been top tier in terms of detail from day 1. %changes all listed
ER patch notes is like
Bruh
errant mountain
Oh yea E7s patch notes are really nice
You just go over them
they even highlight the change
main elm
the good one was the fat dude, he was very engaging with CCs, and he makes his marks
the chick aswell, super active on YT
gilded mason
ER patch notes: Fixed an abnormal interaction
Players: ?????
main elm
1 CM they got rid off coz he was biased, shitty CM
errant mountain
I mean theres not much the devs have done properly
main elm
ER issue it needs more community engagement on youtube, like E7
that's the main platform for ppl to see what's going on
gilded mason
ER issue it needs more community engagement on youtube, like E7
But we paid a ton of ccs!!!
wicked compass
ER patch notes: Fixed an abnormal interaction
Players: ?????
it means an interaction that's abnormal
gilded mason
errant mountain
ER issue it needs more community engagement on youtube, like E7
Wtf are u gonna make content on? Ur rengo farm that doesn't work?
😭
The RTA you can't play?
gilded mason
it means an interaction that's abnormal
errant mountain
This is not a good content game imo
and that really kills its marketing potential
main elm
Wtf are u gonna make content on? Ur rengo farm that doesn't work?
early E7 there was constant interviews with CCs, top RTAs, media art/stuff
here we have like what
1
and 2hrs of it cut off
gilded mason
early E7 there was constant interviews with CCs, top RTAs, media art/stuff
Ews 2025 beats all of that
errant mountain
early E7 there was constant interviews with CCs, top RTAs, media art/stuff
Damn the devs interviewed ccs? Thats crazy lol
wicked compass
the normie CCs that I watched who started playing Etheria ended up downloading Epic 7 and uninstalling Etheria 😭
errant mountain
the normie CCs that I watched who started playing Etheria ended up downloading E...
I mean I did it too 😭
main elm
as far as I know in E7
errant mountain
thanks etheria restart for showing me that epic 7 exists and is more fun
wicked compass
Chris' alts
main elm
wicked compass
that's why they log off when he logs in
errant mountain
Yea I never thought of that
they shouldve had more CMs
saying had because it's too late now
damage has been done
main elm
you overwork 1 CM and look what happens
gilded mason
Fixed some known issues
is a contradiction in itself
WHAT KNOWN ISSUES
I dont know them
errant mountain
WHAT IS EVEN THE LIST OF KNOWN ISSUES
twilit vault
they shouldve had more CMs
cant afford more cause they had to fly out Gacha Smack into China
errant mountain
Chat GPT ahh patch notes
main elm
Skill issue for not knowing them
gilded mason
Chatgpt patch notes
gilded mason
cant afford more cause they had to fly out Gacha Smack into China
Gacha smack bout to vanish from etheria soon
twilit vault
Fixed some known issues
errant mountain
Current E7 CMs are giga gooners but hey, they engaging with community with posts
Yea I saw those and that was a moment of all time ESPECIALLY ML LUNA but it was kinda funny
It got a good laugh outta me so hey it baited the gooners and the not gooners thought it was funny
gilded mason
Current E7 CMs are giga gooners but hey, they engaging with community with posts
Ysenya 💀
errant mountain
(At least, I thought it was funny)
outer falcon
The other stubborn ones just dont communicate but ER devs tried to and then went...
Remember that their first actual communication post launch was scolding everybody for alleged misinformation because they didn't bother telling anyone about their balance changes and left it all up to speculative timelines
errant mountain
Remember that their first actual communication post launch was scolding everybod...
W communication
outer falcon
They act like we're lucky they publish this game for us
viral dune
It's definitely ego project of the devs that's why they don't want to change anything.
Either that or this is just quick and easy cash grab without caring about player's QoL or sustainability.
Pvp is highly unoptimized too like they didnt even test it.
outer falcon
Excuse you, it's e-sport ready
tiny sage
outer falcon
Based incoherent futurist cyberpunk post-apoc jianghu lore
twilit vault
<a:Erm:1293973969212280932>
The Adventures of Vitamin K Massiah
errant mountain
We're in the fantasy of hoping for more lattices
outer falcon
im down to 1 leveled my veronica skills
4 5 3?
glacial zinc
Based incoherent futurist cyberpunk post-apoc jianghu lore
Jianghu?
main elm
<a:Erm:1293973969212280932>
A new home for those who have lost their home.
Is that self projection ?
outer falcon
Jianghu
glacial zinc
<a:Erm:1293973969212280932>
Is this an official post?
Infected by in game chat it was with messiah spelling
tiny sage
Is this an official post?
Infected by in game chat it was with messiah spelling<...
yeah on the JP twitter
wet vault
tame ivy
91,268
quick sapphire
<a:Erm:1293973969212280932>
What am I even reading, their lore and story is so garbage
glacial zinc
What am I even reading, their lore and story is so garbage
Massiah = messiah, and leads doods to freedom or smthng
quick sapphire
Massiah = messiah, and leads doods to freedom or smthng
twilit vault
Massiah = messiah, and leads doods to freedom or smthng
symbolism & shit
main elm
Let's have a good moment to appreciate the effort of our resident active mod @subtle crag for being active with the moderation and the people's needs for the game specially in #ask-staff .
Most importantly all this being performed in the midst of this godforsaken server
subtle crag
outer falcon
why we pokin the bear
main elm
glacial zinc
outer falcon
Looks like I'm stopping at Whitney, damn
main elm
wicked quiver
I did it guys, I uninstalled ER
tiny sage
I did it guys, I uninstalled ER
@ripe kraken 
wicked quiver
yeah I'm in the server
They're going to miss my whole $5 a month I spent on the gem pack
sacred aspen
356-59 Freya speed + immunity buff , he's f2p just spend less 20$ have shit account very few SSR,he is always crying for not have lily
outer falcon
Holy shit
main elm
even this guy 
unfortunetly it's becoming a domino effect, even if the CC want to glaze the game he can't since all the other CCs are saying the same stuff, he just can't have his hot take and get his channel excommunicated from the gacha community
outer falcon
Every time he calls a unit a "chick" I'm more convinced he's a time traveler from 1996
Jay is always honest, rarely a glazer
main elm
tbh I still call "chick" from time to time, also I'm way older than him
outer falcon
He tries to be optimistic though
main elm
yeah he is the "positive" guy
outer falcon
You're also from 1996!
main elm
from as like born or was in middle school 
outer falcon
The time period when your brain was most influenced 🧠
main elm
quite vague
outer falcon
quite vague
It's a vibe thing
wicked quiver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_8QvuNortY
wow even Auronn now
tiny sage
I really need to remake this thread and drop in every video that got posted
"I didn't Test Enough"
outer falcon
wow even Auronn now
I said it last time he came out critically, when you've got this guy making an outright negative video, your game is in serious trouble
wicked quiver
I said it last time he came out critically, when you've got this guy making an o...
Agreed. He is generally pretty positive about the game and doesn't seem to ride the hate wave
main elm
https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1407973453511790672
seeing that clown train, poor Chris
actually worried about him, he didn't say a word for 2 whole days
right after he said he had a stressful day 
tiny sage
outer falcon
He said multiple times he was taking a conscious step back though
He also tries to stay away on weekends
main elm
that's good
imo he should chat waaaaaaaaaay less in this discord, he is trying way too hard, uncessecary for a CM to go that deep
graceful cradle
senya and politis are the better picks
I think the bride is the best start SPP is falling off magnificently but Bride is still good for surviving ST aggro so I agree here
graceful cradle
imo he should chat waaaaaaaaaay less in ~~this discord~~, he is trying way too h...
Nah i think he's making good efforts reminds me of mmo CMs in the early 00s which is a huge plus but people in this discord are something else. Like that dude who was speaking on behalf of Bread
main elm
it's a good effort but the current situation with the community and game it's pointless, he is right for taking a step back and chat less, until the fumes die down or most becomes apathetic..
it'll only wear him out, the chatting in here
mentally
wicked quiver
actually worried about him, he didn't say a word for 2 whole days
Said this wasn't the job for him and he wnated to take a step back or something
outer falcon
Nah i think he's making good efforts reminds me of mmo CMs in the early 00s whic...
Bro kept trying to aggro and gin up weird sentiments against Paul and Chris in the other server too, said he was compiling a document to email to the CEO of XD and got told to be normal then ignored
main elm
Nah i think he's making good efforts reminds me of mmo CMs in the early 00s whic...
community and their content creators in a nutshell
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391996292229628009/1409058289655746632/IMG_20250824_091410.jpg?ex=68aca80b&is=68ab568b&hm=77b2fb1650ad0057063fc2341766b9bb091924b8b3fde5f9e467a31ad5e9b6f6&
not even nitpicking, these 2 messages are 1 min apart
outer falcon
Was he not just saying that bb shouldn't exist but damage also shouldn't be so high?
glacial zinc
community and their content creators in a nutshell
https://cdn.discordapp.com/a...
Im missing what's wrong here?
main elm
saying BB is fine then saying the set shouldn't exist
gilded mason
not even nitpicking, these 2 messages are 1 min apart
Samool smoking some 🍀
wicked quiver
community and their content creators in a nutshell
https://cdn.discordapp.com/a...
This is why C doesn't take any of our feedback seriously
glacial zinc
saying BB is fine then saying the set shouldn't exist
Wait, there was marking as well
I just didnt read
glacial zinc
Samool smoking some 🍀
He blocked me on the cord
main elm
I guess this dude was kinda sane
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1368004112720990228/1408698604729663518/Screenshot_2025-08-20-05-40-22-25_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=68acaa8f&is=68ab590f&hm=e0b1a148b57bd0cd90fc3a5f7fdc8daff92de7fa88a005a35e2919f46b3369a9&=&format=webp&width=476&height=1059
he knows him too well, more than us
wise sand
community and their content creators in a nutshell
https://cdn.discordapp.com/a...
I mean
If you scroll up one more message it provides context
Where he says it shouldn't exist so they don't have to balance around it
wicked quiver
I agree the damage is overall too high and maybe that's why he said that about BB
wicked quiver
Where he says it shouldn't exist so they don't have to balance around it
alright yeah that makes more sense
main elm
Where he says it shouldn't exist so they don't have to balance around it
that's not clipping that's all his possible text in 1 image, and also it doesn't really a reason why saying these 2 things 1 min apart tbh
pick a lane
wet vault
wise sand
He's saying it doesn't need a nerf in the current state of the game
And that it shouldn't exist because it's hard to balance around
That's 2 very easy to understand ideas
subtle crag
outer falcon
Sounds about right
main elm
shouldn't exist but you need it
graceful cradle
community and their content creators in a nutshell
https://cdn.discordapp.com/a...
I saw that shit lmao
wise sand
Things like unbreakable etc should be usable instead
main elm
It's still a contradictory to me
wet vault
my brain is not brainning
main elm
sry
wicked quiver
Things like unbreakable etc should be usable instead
Imagine being able to use unbreakable and wellspring and have it actually matter and not get one shot by a single S3
wet vault
nature is healing?
subtle crag
Liliam as well
wicked quiver
community and their content creators in a nutshell
https://cdn.discordapp.com/a...
I think his comment about "bb doesn't need nerf" was related to the new unit one shotting him with S3
wise sand
The damage and healing is way too high
wicked quiver
Sania cycling and healing 2 units by 50% health every turn is insane
wise sand
That's pretty much a common thread in pvp feedback
But it's a complex thing trying to tweak the formula
So idk how they'd handle
wet vault
well if bb wasnt exist theres no other ways to mitigate those dmg
graceful cradle
Bro kept trying to aggro and gin up weird sentiments against Paul and Chris in t...
Yeah his crashout in here was something else he got bent
wicked quiver
maybe that's why C talked about messing around with the Etherena effects