inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[tiny sage]

[ripe kraken]

Paulo from pokemon masters whose rockruff was op right

[tiny sage]

Whats all time Downloads?

[ripe kraken]

350 k something

[gilded mason]

Huh

Etheria 350k?

That doesnt seem possible

[outer falcon]

That's almost 3x the number of people who played enough SW RTA to get placed on the leaderboard this season

How nice

[zinc bronze]

Even global chat use fuming rn

[glacial zinc]

paul:

[loud locust]

also never said this guy was right about everything at all @tiny sage

just brought awareness to many flaws in my ideas and a lot of community ideas

[tiny sage]

[loud locust]

gotta figure out better solutions this shit is really hard

[tiny sage]

I like to understand logics.

understanding the underlying though process and arugements are the way to getting to best solution.

[outer falcon]

I hate the term but they're called "wicked problems" in the design field for a reason for sure

I'm just dying to know what bro cooked

[glacial zinc]

im stunlocked
cooking my damn brains atp

[outer falcon]

Have a beer

[glacial zinc]

im cackling like a demon
that is my beer

[outer falcon]

Sounds Belgian

[latent iron]

im glad we agree on at least one point

[outer falcon]

Wish I could full lattice Mia and prove to the world that she's crazy

[open fable]

Mia?

Yeong did it

[main elm]

Quiet strange recognizition but I remember Iampaul being the biggest whale on King's raid before the devs did stupid thing

Also was biggest whale on E7 at least in the 1st few months before he left

[open fable]

Iampaul is a whale

[outer falcon]

His ain't fully done but I do respect his rev dedication at this point

[open fable]

But he usually gives up after a few months in

[main elm]

I guess it's the same guy then

Yeah he doesn't stay long in any game

His longest stay was king's raid

Though the dude is a leviathan

I don't think I saw anyone spend more than him in a game I played with him

[outer falcon]

He apparently made himself a test server in this game by building out 2 max lattice accounts

And just sits there testing combinations of shit all day long

[main elm]

Weirdo

Though he always on point on most of the stuff he says in his previous games, he tends to crack the games to the devs for them to see

Though his points usually caters to whales over F2P, coz it's probably the better approach for the devs, ur game will die the moment you piss them off

He pointed out a major flaw in early E7 and then he quitted coz of it just so E7 listens to him and fix it

[gilded mason]

So he's just a hero

Does what he needs to do then leaves

[main elm]

Aye, least hated whale

His presence in a game is good

Coz he actively talk to the ppl in question, forums/CMs ...etc

[chilly iron]

He did not get to click a single button in entire game

[gilded mason]

I think thats a bot

Its an it!

[main elm]

@loud locust I've known Iampaul for more than 12 years, never once he didn't become rank1 in any game he touches, dude isn't just a giga whale, he is a genius when it comes to PvP gachas, if you ever want real feedback, you listen to Paul and Paul only, he is a surgeon that opens up your games and finds out all the issues

Though he tend not to stay for too long in any game

[graceful juniper]

Lvl 80? Probably

[gilded mason]

I've fought stanley at least 10 times

In different ranks

Thanks stanley for the free wins

[graceful juniper]

[main elm]

At this point I don't think inserting bots in RTA is a bad thing

[zinc bronze]

Managed to climb to plat 3 with CC+diting lol

[ripe kraken]

So guys

What's the topic today

[main elm]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-china-gif-284632875632280687

[zinc bronze]

74 pulls to get ninfo

Also have you heard of paul?

[ripe kraken]

I didn't

Who is this guy

He feels like a god travelling

Around continents

And shower game with his blessings

[zinc bronze]

Idk either

But C trusts his game knowledge

[main elm]

The only person I say with confidence that he knows any game he play better than the devs is Iampaul

[zinc bronze]

Idk what the RTA community said to C that he had to say this

I kinda wanna know

[main elm]

He is right, if what Paul says is opposite of what top RTAs then top RTAers are basically monkeys, it's really that simple

[zinc bronze]

Ofcourse paul is right, why am I even asking smh

[main elm]

[zinc bronze]

We trust in paul to save the game

[main elm]

[zinc bronze]

Warmup your socks and lets continue the marathon

[main elm]

Hope the game doesn't break him and leave, like King's raid and E7

Though I think he went back to E7

[zinc bronze]

I'm looking forward to what will happen in a few weeks

Total redemption or chaos

[main elm]

By no means though, that what paul says benefits the f2p, none at all, it benefits the game as a whole

[latent iron]

apparently Luca is a friend of paul and pauls helping him with strat/drafts thats why luca is rank 1

[inland chasm]

Did paul say to give us this trash reforge event aswell? If yes i dont trust him

[main elm]

I don't remember him saying anything that benefits F2Ps

[zinc bronze]

The problem is that even if C manages to push good things for the game and the devs just don't wanna do it. It will only lead to dissapointment again

[main elm]

If it's similar to E7 reforge event then why not, probably the devs didn't execute it as it should be

[latent iron]

its not similar

you can't enhance it

you just get +0 piece

[zinc bronze]

E7 had events where you can predetermine the substat roll

[main elm]

Well, there ya go, he wanted the E7 reforge event but what he got is dogwater event instead

[zinc bronze]

Cant quad or penta roll tho

[charred minnow]

not too bad.. works fine as long as you can push and cycle enough in front of boss

[latent iron]

even triple roll into speed like in e7 is way better + you also get the other 2 rolls into anything you want besides spd

but that event is not ran monthly like this will

its like very rare in e7 isnt it

[main elm]

Not THAT rare no

[zinc bronze]

E7 does have smth similar like this

[spring yarrow]

Alright, who's writing the Ninfo thread? I need entertainment for the rest of the week

[zinc bronze]

You get a +0 gear

[spring yarrow]

[latent iron]

oh ok then sure

[outer falcon]

Mo

[zinc bronze]

Does ninfos atk bonus on shield dissapear when shield runs out?

[outer falcon]

Yes

[zinc bronze]

Oof

[outer falcon]

It's dogshit in Rengo

[zinc bronze]

Just make it like artisan

[inland chasm]

I think it should say no?

[outer falcon]

Maybe better on codex but I'm going to sleep so I'm not bothering to test it more

[zinc bronze]

Zolri tested her on codex

Dk if liliam was 5/5/5 tho

[latent iron]

defo good for sub 1 min runs but other than that i think you have to invest lattice

[zinc bronze]

So bare minimum 113

413 for speed

[latent iron]

455

[outer falcon]

I put 2 into her already cause I know I'm going to invest deeper eventually anyway

She wants it all

[zinc bronze]

What's your liliam skillups @charred minnow

[outer falcon]

Halloween probably the move for anything that isn't a full speed clear

[charred minnow]

yes

[charred minnow]

5/1/5, lily 5/5/5, ninf 1/1/5

[clear gulch]

P5?

[charred minnow]

liliam p5 ye

lily p3

[chilly iron]

My liliam 1/1/5
I have 4 lattice which one should I priorities

[clear gulch]

S1

[tiny sage]

Time to see if this Lady Helps in Rengo

[charred minnow]

not with that slow speed

[quiet verge]

She is buffer not some cc

What the point of her going last

After rengo alr nuked everything

[charred minnow]

to look beautiful 🙂

[quiet verge]

And pitiful

Imagine having less hp with all investment

Than SR

Meanwhile Fuq u

[charred minnow]

lmfao

[tiny sage]

AN SHE IS A SCAM

[clear gulch]

How many pulls for p3?

[quiet verge]

263

[tiny sage]

Needs Heavy Lattice Investment

[charred minnow]

I mean if you didn't give her more speed, ofc it is

[quiet verge]

I hard pity her 3 times

[clear gulch]

Ouch

[tiny sage]

Provided No Tangible bonus over Valerian

[clear gulch]

But based

[charred minnow]

but ye as I said before when Adept was cooming over Ninfo

[tiny sage]

or Sania

or Fugui

[charred minnow]

she's mid at best for Rengo

especially paired with Liliam

how they promoted it

[tiny sage]

Her S2 also heals for shit

[quiet verge]

That 10% heal with 5t cd

Is a joke

[charred minnow]

she needs like 8 lattice to be useful S3 and S2 maxed

then you technically want S1 lv4 for spd boost

[quiet verge]

And auto having useless res up not even res up Chance to have res up

[charred minnow]

resup while she gives immunity on s3

[clear gulch]

Guess they didnt adress the rengo issue directly

[quiet verge]

They just troll us

And laughing on our reaction

Like ninfo have stats of SR

[tiny sage]

Correct

[charred minnow]

btw Batsby does extend DoTs atm

[gilded mason]

Probably used ai to create a kit

[tiny sage]

Time to Mald in General

[charred minnow]

can't wait to see them "bugfix" it

[tiny sage]

Batsby Actually good DPS

[charred minnow]

wdym this is general

[tiny sage]

Both units good.

Neither units helps with Rengo

[charred minnow]

[undone vortex]

😔

[charred minnow]

I'm so glad C hyped up the new blog post 🙂

[undone vortex]

designed specifically to CRUSH rengo

[charred minnow]

he really delivered some great news after his long call with Jack

[undone vortex]

I can see ninfo working if she was red maybe so u could do like

[charred minnow]

you can't even use both new units at once at rengo properly

[undone vortex]

actually idk if that'd help

maybe for long runs lol

[undone vortex]

yea

idk c said both units are there to expand the unit that are good against rengo

[charred minnow]

ninfo should've been red, batsby green

[undone vortex]

fr tho like why blue

we have so many blue dps

[clear gulch]

Blue rister is so stacked already

😂

[charred minnow]

don't forget he's another AOE dps

[undone vortex]

tiamat, borgne, xiada, Rosa, rin, oboro, Andrew

[charred minnow]

another blue aoe dps

I guess Rahu can be considered a green AoE dps

and Gray..

[undone vortex]

sybil ig lol

[charred minnow]

sybil.... is not green

sybil is blue

[undone vortex]

I meant in my blue list

zzz

[charred minnow]

[undone vortex]

red has like Lian as an AOE dps

[clear gulch]

I have her built actually haha

[undone vortex]

and well

[charred minnow]

Hellkid

if you can call him a dps

[undone vortex]

sybil tbf is nice in cage rumble

[graceful juniper]

That was the most stupid number...pretty much her s1 and s2 useless...and neex investment on s2,the only thing work is s3 lol

[tiny sage]

She Works you just need max Lattice

[undone vortex]

[tiny sage]

but Lingluo Works with Max Lattice.

Sania Wroks with Max Lattice

[undone vortex]

dam c tried to make all us seem crazy

[graceful juniper]

Imo ninfo good sup for xiada...so if you can use blue,you use both nimfo and xiada imo

[tiny sage]

Fuqui Works with Max Lattice

like

[charred minnow]

so glad he hyped up that blog post

[gilded mason]

rengo be like

[charred minnow]

telling me I was an idiot for telling him he shouldn't be promising shit ;-;

[undone vortex]

called everyone who said the rengo solution was sus

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-invincible-pathetic-gif-27565015

[undone vortex]

doomposters who revel in the game dying

[charred minnow]

shhh

he's awake

[undone vortex]

I needa let Paul know this ain't ok

[charred minnow]

[undone vortex]

cuz only he gives valuable feedback

[gilded mason]

He's still young, he'll learn

[undone vortex]

I mean I'm just repeating what he said

if u don't wanna get clowned on

don't say dumb stuff ezpz

while clowning on others

[charred minnow]

man I've talked about in in union discord

[undone vortex]

either way maybe someone will cook something up with either

[charred minnow]

would be better if he sometimes just says nothing..

[undone vortex]

likeee

it's not like he's saying 2 cents then leaving

he's combative about it 😭

or dismissive about it

that's what I'm seeing maybe others disagree

[charred minnow]

nah that's about it

[undone vortex]

that's how I absorbed the information

[sacred aspen]

Devs change 1 week event like chaku adventures with their rewards and shop for forge instead done forge a additional event ,, so we lose a lot resources as gems/pulls/energy/Shadowprints

[charred minnow]

love that he's involved.. wish he was less involved

just let us know you saw the feedback and will pass it on

[gilded mason]

yeah

[charred minnow]

give ur 2 cents nobody minds that

[undone vortex]

like xyro and fool are involved but they don't clown/belittle others that disagree with the devs or their opinion

[gilded mason]

well thats his style i guess

[charred minnow]

but having full blown discussions

about things he doesn't have a say about to add insult to injury

[undone vortex]

like how u gonna say everyone but Paul's feedback is garbage, then say it's our fault for assuming cuz that's not what he meant

😭

[gilded mason]

IMO he's too close

But some people seem to like that

If it works it works i guess

[charred minnow]

the voices and feedback they saw

[clear gulch]

The right direction is the other way bruh

[undone vortex]

they really do be hyping up every new addition

like pve/pvp split Animus screen is nice

but it's like bare minimum 💀

but they were like we cured cancer and ended world hunger

[charred minnow]

they listened so well, they heard the whispers of the old gods

[undone vortex]

oops my finger slipped

out of context screenshot 🤪

[fading delta]

bro what is that speed

[charred minnow]

buuuut the fact we can shit talk this much is both very fun, but very bad too

[sacred aspen]

Devs change 1 week event like chaku adventures with their rewards and shop for forge instead done forge a additional event ,, so we lose a lot resources as gems/pulls/energy/Shadowprints xd @tiny sage

[charred minnow]

Paul is the only person in RTA community?

[undone vortex]

fpsshotty who

kekker who

Paul only knows what's good

[half lodge]

he isnt even in top 10 dude rta

[undone vortex]

and what's not good

[half lodge]

he clearly doesnt

[undone vortex]

but

ok

[charred minnow]

can't wait for them to nerf bb to see the outrage

[tiny sage]

Best I had on BB

[charred minnow]

don't need BB

[fading delta]

I agree its not a solution for rengo, but test her properly maybe lmao

[tiny sage]

I don't have a Swiftsmite Codex because I ain't farming Rengo

[charred minnow]

I mean

fair point

[tiny sage]

"For People Struggling with Rengo Help is on the Way"

[charred minnow]

guess you should just get fucked then

[fading delta]

not with +116 speed

[charred minnow]

10 years experience into a junior position esque scenario right here @tiny sage

[tiny sage]

Even if she was faster it literally didn't change Anything.

[charred minnow]

want to have an easier time farming Rengo, make sure you farmed enough Rengo to have relevant shells first 🙂

[tiny sage]

Yeah I don't have 12 hours a Day to bash my head into that wall

Cause I have to do 3 minute manual Clears

[charred minnow]

just be unemployed full time etheria gamer like trueevil

[undone vortex]

now why he catching strays

[charred minnow]

idk don't like him and my fingers slipped

[hot silo]

Probably meowing in some other discords or irl

[undone vortex]

😭

[charred minnow]

40min total for 10 runs rengo to 8mins for 10 runs with about the same winrate is kinda nutty tho

[fading delta]

whats your team ?

[charred minnow]

this

kloss: 1/1/3 p3
lily: 5/5/5 p3
liliam: 5/1/5 p5
ninfo: 1/1/5 p0
@fading delta

[ripe kraken]

@wise sand he even disregarded ur suggestions huh

[indigo oyster]

[wise sand]

no?

[ripe kraken]

Hmm so what c told to ur suggestions

To rta

It seems he trusts paul more now

[wise sand]

all he said was

"i got a lot of general feedback and need to look into what to do"

which is obvious from the amount of feedback on the doc

[ripe kraken]

Yeah but like 30 days are left right

For season to end

Or 40 ish

If the changes come at last 20 days of season will be weird

[tiny sage]

UnNerf Rev. Nerf Rengo and Aurora

Fix

[indigo oyster]

TDLR, some of the feedback only benefit that player playstyle, so its bad

[main elm]

They could have made rev max damage is 50% less against players but devs don't know how to code

[tiny sage]

thats a bigger nerf then what happened... and it needs to be unnerfed.

[main elm]

The nerf only affected PvP?

[indigo oyster]

i can tell you paul have 2 fully max dupe account but not max latticed, dude is a hoarder most his testing is 111 for bruiser comp

[main elm]

Tbh any PvP game ppl like quick matches

So cleaves and aggro is always favoured over bruiser/tank down

[tiny sage]

Not currently

[main elm]

Minority being loud doesn't mean that's whats the majority wants

[tiny sage]

Last meta was a Triangle Current Meta is Bruiser only unless you outgear

and 30 minute matches

[vague violet]

Good morning doomers. I see we’re holding steady at 91k.

[main elm]

Only reason so ppl like to play stall team coz they don't have the ability to compete with cleave/aggro coz their gear rolls rolls the former

That's the issue with a PvP game with heavy gear RNG

[vague violet]

Not a PVP game. PVE with optional and annoying PVP

[tiny sage]

Except in this game Stall/Bruiser was locked behind Aurora and Rengo so no one could farm it.

So below the top ranks Rev spam was happening because they refuse to nerf Rengo and Aurora

[indigo oyster]

it only take 555 liliam, 550 lily and ling

[main elm]

Tbh I was consistently farming Aurora with Rosa 1:15 per run on average since beginning of July

If you can't farm Aurora that's really ( ppl really hate to hear it ) really a skill issue

I've done it with Rosa solo DPS, and she is by far not the best DPS even after liliam

[tiny sage]

Still needs a 10-30% nerf

Also wtf

[main elm]

Sure, always good to make PvE easier in a game, but that's not the main point, point is ppl in general doesn't like long PvP matches, coz it's a gacha

And the only reason why ppl force it because they know ppl hate it, so u get less contested with a cancerous stall team

Less ppl go against you = higher rank for u

[tiny sage]

thats not why people are playing Bruiser right now....

They are playing it because Rev Got Killed....

[main elm]

Ppl play brusier right now coz it got worse, not only it's less favored but actual meta

[tiny sage]

?

[main elm]

All E7 arena defenses is designed to stop cleaves and cleaves only, none designed to stop bruiser play, coz very few bother to long matches in daily PvP, to the point where devs implemented quick matches sweeps coz cleaving became impossible

Devs didn't want players to desert a PvP content completely

So they made that fix and ppl loved it

ER RTA is still early, ppl will play standard draft for the foreseeable future, and now the standard draft became almost all bruiser pick, and that's because BB is a retarded set that shouldn't exist to begin with

Let ppl cleave early so what, game still barely 2 months old, cleaving as the norm PvP approach lasted for over a year in E7

[half lodge]

100%

People want to balnace this set

but it is one of the things

that will be only broken or compeltly useless

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[half lodge]

in concept it is badly designed the same as revaltion which should function as tank buster not multi hitters evne supports into dmg dealers

tyhitgdjhifghigf

[indigo oyster]

they didnt think it would work that way tbh

[half lodge]

yeah thats the thing

[main elm]

ER BB problem is too deep now, it's the devs fault to remotely think this set is a good idea.

What happened now, is ppl spent load of their time, money and resources to farm that set coz well DUH it fuckin broken.

You will not punish the players that is playing the game correctly by simply nerf it to the ground

That's an issue the devs needs to think ways to get out from it

[tiny sage]

Cleave is dead currnelty...

[main elm]

Ofc it's dead

[half lodge]

do you agree with this healfree?

[main elm]

BB is a retarded set

[half lodge]

i dont see it as remotely balnaced ever

[main elm]

It's hard to balance it on its own

U buff other or make more options that equally broken

[main elm]

Just to diverse

Take E7 for example
ML Aramintha and ML Baal made Iampaul literally quit, coz there is only 1 way to win PvP, be faster and stun lock enemy to death

E7 dev solution:
Introduce a new set, immunity

Immune to all debuffs turn 1

Literally killed debuff meta

Made a whole units and content useless and unplayable, so they introduced debuff powercreep units

Remove immunity and debuff in 1 skill

And live goes on

Now every single debuffer in E7 that gets released HAVE to strip or it's useless

[half lodge]

oh yeah

i have noticed this

while starting recently

i find it weird and wondered why it is like this

[ripe kraken]

In e7 many red heads are useless

[main elm]

Imagine if epicseven release a set that is stronger than Proof of Valor arti

( PoV is broken in E7, it's weaker than BB and you can ONLY use it on 1 unit per team )

BB is PoV on steroids and u can put it on everyone on ur team

See how retarded this is ?

[half lodge]

thanks for a lesson on history

[main elm]

How remotely can you balance this without nerfing it

[ripe kraken]

Wasn't aurius same

[half lodge]

even with nerfing it you make it abosultely useless or still mandatory on bruisers

[ripe kraken]

Very retarded

Ah now I get reminded of pov

Very old days

The nostalgia

[half lodge]

I am in middle of act 2 in bg3 honor mode already gonna end it today

[ripe kraken]

Episode 3?

I want a good episode team smh

[main elm]

Introduce dark corvus in ER and it will fix PvP

A unit that 1 shot anything regardless of ur damage reduction

It'll force nukers to be used in PvP again

[ripe kraken]

Or church of illorys axe

Even

But he works against light only

Smh

[half lodge]

was he ever good?

[ripe kraken]

Yeah used do

[main elm]

He was strong once he got his SC

[ripe kraken]

Some people used him to one shot belians

[half lodge]

in all spec change tier list he is like for collectors only

[main elm]

But got powercrept very fast

Imagine ML Ken with BB

Literally solo the entire ER universe

[half lodge]

i love ml ken design

[ripe kraken]

@gilded mason that's why u need a lucy in life

U are having trouble with arby ? Slap ml ken and watch him die

[open fable]

@main elm tbh I think BB needs to be nerfed to 30 percent

[main elm]

ML Ken existence helped to complete remove bruisers in PvP

[open fable]

55 plus PvP 30dmg reduction kinda alot

Before people say it's too much nerf you already have anti tech for cleaves with that

[ripe kraken]

Will they never buff aravi again

[open fable]

LH, Viper for crit DMG reduction Tiamat

[ripe kraken]

She so deadge

[gilded mason]

in real life you'd just get scammed

[ripe kraken]

[main elm]

I think flat out 20% damage reduction is more than enough.

You can only make THICC bruisers months and MONTHS into the game coz gearing bruisers is HARD.

But they exist this early coz of BB, it'll only get WORSE AND WORSE when ppl get better and better gear

PoV is 30% damage reduction and it's cancer

[ripe kraken]

I think bb set should be removed from the game and replaced by a evasion set

[open fable]

Violet meta

[main elm]

And not 30% all battle, it gets reduced to 15% the more u get hit

[open fable]

I miss thst

[ripe kraken]

Atleast evasion is lowkey

Better

Or fair

Than bloodbath

Evasion will also shut down cc meta

[open fable]

Like there is too much answers to cleave and not enough answers for cleaving

[main elm]

Evasion is actually smart, they will fuck all bruisers and only can be countered by nukers

[ripe kraken]

Yes

Evasion replaced by bb here

[main elm]

No no

[ripe kraken]

When it should be the other way around

[main elm]

Evasion set will make tanks with evasion

[ripe kraken]

I think the devs don't have that complex code knowledge to implement evasion in game

That's the problem

[open fable]

NGL tho Paul hates CC tho

[main elm]

Always has been, CC made him quit E7

[open fable]

He kinda ask to rework the ER eff and nothing about BB last I check

[main elm]

He is still traumatized by E7 meta 6 years ago

[open fable]

Ara Baal

[main elm]

[open fable]

Basar

The they tried ML Basar bs

But his base speed was shit

[main elm]

Fuckin basar meta lived for a damn whole year

[open fable]

[main elm]

Basar was RETARDED

Basar Arby

Fuck sake

PTSD

[open fable]

Corvus was funny tho

[main elm]

Abyssal crown basaar

[open fable]

Wasn't it 3 Abyssal during that meta

[main elm]

No just him enough

[ripe kraken]

I mean u can even show the cc video to a kid and even he will say he is saying over positive stuff

Wrong cc nvm

[main elm]

Imagine they release a limited summer unit to counter an old RGB unit

Not counter only, a tailored Kit for Basaar only

And useless literally anywhere else

Tbh solution is simple for XD

Make BB 20% damage reduction.

Let cleave and aggro come back for a while.

Release units that counter cleave.

Release cleave unit that counter that unit

Easy money

Easy meta shifts

Debuff meta ?
Release units punish debuffs

There are so much solutions but devs too busy selling PvE solutions

[half lodge]

The things you are mentioning and telling about

Its very interesting to me

[main elm]

It's a healthy life cycle I witnessed and experienced in a very high ranking PvP

[half lodge]

These are exactly why i dont consider E7 something more than fun mobile game instead of anything remotely competetive

It is what it is

[crystal copper]

what pve solutions?

[main elm]

Exactly

Sorry I should have wrote it "PvE solutions"

Though for real, the issue is nerfing BB, if the nerf enables cleaves then the set will be useless, if it doesn't then the nerf was useless

And it will piss off the ones that farmed it alot if the nerf worked

It's hard to find middle ground for BB fix

I'd suggest a complete overhaul, change the whole set to something else entirely, BUT 1 of the stronger bruiser sets

So ppl wouldn't feel they wasted their time farming it

[mental mural]

Its been fun chat
Officially joining all my retired homies
Etheria was really all about the discord pvp and the friends we made along the way

[half lodge]

Wow he left already

[main elm]

Rip blaze

[half lodge]

Another warrior lost

[half lodge]

Its normal

I summon unironically every RGB on 1 sum

[brittle prairie]

Hi, have Etheria been saved?

Heard help was coming

[brittle prairie]

The real EWS along the way was the Rengoku help we made during the journey

I am new here but how is removing the event that gave players resources that are already scarce for module forge + the "help" for rengo gonna help us?

@loud locust bro you tried your best, a better company/game/community deserve you more

[ripe kraken]

Why so.many doomers are coming

Suddenly lol

[open fable]

Alot of WK turning into doomers

Cycle of this discord

[brittle prairie]

I saw Kekker's EWS win and joined the game

[open fable]

First time I saw mello? Dooming

[brittle prairie]

Heard that our voice matters

And I like asmr because, voice

[ripe kraken]

Is this madnessloid

Hmm

[gilded mason]

Yah spot on

[ripe kraken]

Feels like it

[gilded mason]

Devs thought they were cool adding fancy shell

Didnt think far ahead

Feels like they're kids who need people to hold their hands and tell them how to fix their game

[glacial zinc]

And now, they'e got paul

[gilded mason]

[gilded mason]

Thats what i thought too lmao

I dont think its him though

[half lodge]

This is the 1st week thatbi havent done the weekly rta points

[quiet verge]

Just do it on fearless arena on weekend

[open fable]

I actually don't need to farm modules

[ripe kraken]

All eff res

[clear gulch]

This is good enough no

Or would you roll for eff res

[ripe kraken]

Remove c damage

Take eff res

[clear gulch]

Yea

[ripe kraken]

But might low roll

[clear gulch]

Expected

[ripe kraken]

Ye it feels like

Imma end ur coins career

Vibes

Ya know

[clear gulch]

Oh actually im fine with that event

[ripe kraken]

What event

[clear gulch]

Maybe offer 1 left side and 2-3 right side modules

[indigo oyster]

If it reset everyday sure

But it’s only 2 piece

[clear gulch]

I wouldnt mind that either

Yea 2 are a bit underwhelming

[twilit vault]

bold move to start to decrease one of the only positive aspects of the game while bringing nothing to the table to enhance the playing experience

let's see how it works out.

[twilit vault]

"Frozen Frost" lmao

[gilded mason]

Frost is...frozen

[twilit vault]

can't wait for the upcoming banners "wet water" and "hot lava"

[gilded mason]

Ai generated names

[ripe kraken]

I think etheria will lose playerbase

But will live

[twilit vault]

they will black beacon it in 1 month and kill off global in the process

[gilded mason]

it'll just end up like outerplane

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

No one plays

But active

[twilit vault]

good comparison, i think so too

[ripe kraken]

That's it

After the funding ends

And contract

Eos

[gilded mason]

Just another gacha that had potential

But blew it

[ripe kraken]

Btw @gilded mason

He also left us

If fixes come after majority playerbase leaves

Then no one will come back

Tribe nine already showed that

[twilit vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/896489320360316968/983778755396919346/this.gif

[glacial zinc]

Nah, they got paul to keep them on life support

Paul would bring me back with his sauce

https://tenor.com/view/dinner-time-its-comeeat-eat-gif-19906144

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-paul-paul-gif-22987228

[tribal osprey]

So did help arrive?

[twilit vault]

help arrived and stole our pulls and orange prints from the shell story event shop

never trust help

[glacial zinc]

Our lord and saviour PAUL

Gordon fkng ramsay of gacha quisine

Travels the world and collects ancient wisdom of those that succeeded

https://tenor.com/view/greeting-delvin-adams-gordon-ramsay-a-crash-course-in-guyanese-cuisine-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-gif-23498310

[twilit vault]

btw did you guys hear they're dropping support for the weekly tournaments too

[tribal osprey]

Those still get views?

Ngl I thought they would drop it after week 1

[twilit vault]

they're essentially expecting content creators to continue organizing them on their own behalf while paying reward costs out of pocket

it's dumb as hell

[glacial zinc]

It's a smart tactic, they are a business after all

[twilit vault]

yeah that's to be expected, but the fact they expect people to do charity for them is the craziest part

[vague violet]

Just stay and lol like the rest of us

[vague violet]

last one had like 300 views when it popped up on my channel on YouTube, so I’m really not surprised

[twilit vault]

true for marketing purposes, but seems like an own goal in the sense that if the game is marketed as being competitive then ideally there would be competitions

[gilded mason]

They had weekly tournaments??

[twilit vault]

dunno how tossing around a couple of grand every 2 weeks or so is too big of a cost for a million dollar company

[tribal osprey]

Yeah

Timaeus cup or something

[twilit vault]

but then again i dont understand over half of the decisions these people keep making, so it fits with the theme

[glacial zinc]

Bro, that's a whole meal for an exec in disrepair somewhere over his fancy fungus

[gilded mason]

Should have spent all the money they used on ews 2025 and stupid ass tournaments to hire a gacha expert who can make proper decisions

Whoever is making decisions right now needs to be stoned

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-george-wheres-paul-doe-yaddleiswashed-noahshmoneyman-gif-10372697508946235449

[tribal osprey]

They needed Paul

[gilded mason]

Paul can give feedback

but

Devs may not listen

[twilit vault]

or, you know, treated the beta tests as beta tests, instead of this "final beta" soft launch we had, and then launched the game simultaneously in all regions once everything was ironed out

[tribal osprey]

No. Make Paul the dev

[gilded mason]

Paul who

[tribal osprey]

Paul Paul

[glacial zinc]

Paul the whale
Paul the gacha nomad

Paul

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-cubone-osselait-tragosso-silly-gif-5427266140118742446

[twilit vault]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2544131740?t=00h14m59s
vod with timestamp where JJWF talks about the tournament thing

[tribal osprey]

Is that short for Paul?

[twilit vault]

nah different guy

[gilded mason]

Timaeass cup

[ripe kraken]

So cc will now start paying for weekly tournament W this will hit their marketing

[gilded mason]

Geddit

[twilit vault]

well no, the CCs will just leave to cover another game

[gilded mason]

TimaeASS cup

[ripe kraken]

Thank god

[twilit vault]

rest in piece TimaeASS cup 2025-2025

[ripe kraken]

Atleast they won't further kill their channel reputations

[twilit vault]

the 200 weekly viewers will miss you

[gilded mason]

Who are these 200 people

Or did some of them click by mistake

[twilit vault]

lol wouldn't be surprised if some of them were synthetic if you know what i mean

[gilded mason]

Maybe the 200 is the etheria dev team

[ripe kraken]

Honestly many gacha players already say a yt channel that's covering etheria is itself a red flag they said it shows they are just cowards and don't say the truth that's there

[twilit vault]

Etheria's reputation outside of the bubble involved with the game is actual dogwater

[ripe kraken]

If u cover etheria ur just deteriorating the channel

[twilit vault]

it's so terminally bad actually

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

Imo whoever is covering etheria will get hit hard

Soon

Very soon

Even auronjay

[twilit vault]

saintontas skated by because his videos were him PEPWing the whole way through, basically hinting throughout that he was only doing it for the bag

[ripe kraken]

No one knows him much

[ripe kraken]

Yeah I mean 1 video is fine

[twilit vault]

im referencing this emote https://www.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/442752-PEPW

[ripe kraken]

But some content creators are actually black listed ya know

Like tectone was blacklisted

Back then

By community

There is a etheria blacklist as well it's just we don't know it

It's there

[twilit vault]

Tectone said that one of the big reasons he stopped covering the game, in addition to the time investment, was the fact that XD artificially boosted the view counts on some of the videos he made about Etheria

[ripe kraken]

But

Yes

[twilit vault]

without his approval, which he then said made him look bad in the eyes of his viewers

[ripe kraken]

The moment tectone dipped cc should have realised

But nah

[gilded mason]

Actually i should have noticed the red flags sooner. Using the word "topup" on their payment page, "rebate" event, its all standard p2w chinese garbage gacha game strat

[ripe kraken]

Idk why volk is still with this game lmao

[gilded mason]

Copium is a hell of a drug

[ripe kraken]

[gilded mason]

Hes still getting paid isnt he

[ripe kraken]

Some cc like volk smack won't be affected

[twilit vault]

still getting paid probably

[ripe kraken]

Yeah still paid

[twilit vault]

man also got oiled up by getting that sponsored trip to China

same with Gacha Smack

[ripe kraken]

They already have a base that loves them

[gilded mason]

Volkin has dipped on better games even faster than this game

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

[gilded mason]

He prolly just staying for the moolah

[fading delta]

smack still cover this game?

[ripe kraken]

Yes he does

[twilit vault]

video posted less than 7 days ago

[gilded mason]

Smack video frequency reduced no?

[ripe kraken]

In gamescom video also he said

People should try etheria it's a 6.5 game

[ripe kraken]

Yeah he talking break

Went on a vacation recently

With family

[gilded mason]

Its incredible if theyre all still being paid lol

[ripe kraken]

Are they hoyo though

To pay them every month

[gilded mason]

Money'll probably stop if this month revenue is shit

[ripe kraken]

Hoyo to a minimum contracted cc ranges from 2 k usd to 10 k usd

[gilded mason]

Which it looks like itll be

[twilit vault]

odds on the payments stopping after "Global" launch though?

[gilded mason]

Jack probably coping for cn kr jp release

[twilit vault]

pretty high imo

[gilded mason]

His last hope

If cn kr jp flops

[ripe kraken]

He coping very hard

[gilded mason]

Hes done

Probably gonna have to find a new job lol

[ripe kraken]

He literally kept it around czn release so he can distract that regions from czn

Czn is possibly on october

[gilded mason]

Czn not so soon rho

[twilit vault]

this shell story change made me so angry that im seriously thinking about Braxophoning the CN community lol

[ripe kraken]

And september 25

This cn

[gilded mason]

Seven knights rb also oct to dec release

[ripe kraken]

What they did

[gilded mason]

They reduced the summons

[ripe kraken]

Someone should honestly post on bilibili

[gilded mason]

Sorry i mean removed

[ripe kraken]

Of how things currently are

[twilit vault]

#1407872238706888786 message

good rewards replaced by reconfig chips so you can roll 6 blue passives on your shells

[twilit vault]

yes

[ripe kraken]

I think all event shops will be nerfed

[twilit vault]

inb4 this crap hard in CN

[gilded mason]

Nah

Beta for cn kr jp opens soon

Theyll.play and smell the bs

[twilit vault]

that's actually the best strategy because it's clear at this point that constructive feedback doesn't work

[ripe kraken]

This is the first nerfed event shop right

[twilit vault]

go scorched earth and force them to change

[ripe kraken]

They will slap the old beta patch file

Of where everything was easy

Same tactics

[gilded mason]

If no major positive changes in the next month, game will flop.

Thats what i think

[ripe kraken]

They will still stall

[gilded mason]

In its current state its cooked

[ripe kraken]

Untill the servers and people actually arrive

[sacred aspen]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1408041246307647538

[twilit vault]

they've already flopped, it would be more like sinking beneath the ground

falling through earth's crust to the magma layer type shit

[tiny sage]

Teccy turned down a 6 Figure Sponsor from them after his initial one. Cause the Game was so bad (Mainly the Grind)

[graceful juniper]

Well somebody notice this aswell lol

[ripe kraken]

Holy guacamole

[tiny sage]

[twilit vault]

not surprised, thanks for the behind the scenes details though

[ripe kraken]

Thanks serra

[sacred aspen]

Just trying save etheria

[ripe kraken]

Hey serra will u try star saviour in future or nah

[graceful juniper]

The dev themself wont allow it

[gilded mason]

They still have a chance with cn kr jp

If they blow it then they're really done

[twilit vault]

if some person makes a well detailed video about the entire history of this game and all the pitfalls this has, basically the equivalent of Braxophone's video but in CN, there's no chance

[gilded mason]

I respect you for it

[twilit vault]

XD already has a poor reputation in Asia because of Sword of Convalleria

[gilded mason]

[ripe kraken]

Well

Even paul is trying a super man effort

[gilded mason]

I recommend seanb

[ripe kraken]

Paul is our superman

[gilded mason]

Idk if seanb still getting paid

After all the shade he thrown

[ripe kraken]

Braxophone was a prophet

[twilit vault]

i hecking love Unleashed Sean

[glass vale]

They’re gonna ban you bro be careful

[ripe kraken]

Of telling etheria future beforehand

[sacred aspen]

Having headache today for devs removing one event full store and 3 summons in shell story shop

[sacred aspen]

I don't do nothing wrong against rules

[glass vale]

Spamming

[tiny sage]

"Dupes Disabled in RTA, Doesn't get Correct til after Beta/Rebate ends." "Buffs to all LateGame Farming Stages" "Shadow/Buffs/Nerfs/Changes to SSania/Xiada Direct Nerf to Veronika" "No Communication" "Rev Nerf because Rengo and Aurora too Hard"

[sacred aspen]

If devs remove a whole full event and shop rewards with 2 modules is a bad move, and remove 3 pulls in shell story event is too a bad move

[ripe kraken]

Pure blasphemy of a beta

[sacred aspen]

What more I can do ?

[ripe kraken]

Sorry jhon7 if u are new here

But ur efforts maybe in vain

[sacred aspen]

@shadow hornet The module event should be an EXTRA event, not replacing a weekly event that gives out rewards. 2 pieces of gear that might not even roll well is 1000% not worth losing out on pulls/shadowprints/other resources

[ripe kraken]

Just saying beforehand

[fading delta]

dont tag him bro

[tiny sage]

[sacred aspen]

Sorry not feeling good today

[ripe kraken]

U might get banned now

[sacred aspen]

For ? @ripe kraken

[fading delta]

[ripe kraken]

Many who tagged jack got banned

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-friend-farewell-so-long-gif-25205750

[sacred aspen]

He's game director

[ripe kraken]

And don't live to tell the tale

[fading delta]

it was nice meeting you john

[tiny sage]

I do agree

[twilit vault]

except he actually isn't, because he's admitted in the discussion that there are people who make decisions over him in the company

[vital arrow]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1408042317646004304

Go 💯 it fellas

[twilit vault]

Game Director In Name Only

[vital arrow]

Another feedback post for them to ignore

[gilded mason]

Removing summon from event shop without communicating

[glacial zinc]

trophy director

[ripe kraken]

[gilded mason]

He may not make the decisions but he'll get the blame when shit goes downhill

Poor guy

[glass vale]

They didn’t even make it past 1 patch note 🤣

[sacred aspen]

Agree with you

[gilded mason]

No wonder he delayed for 5 years

He was just farming

Smart guy

[twilit vault]

i actually feel bad for c and ZoxasKun and whoever else was involved on the EN side for this heap of you know what

it kind of feels like they got duped / rugpulled too

[half lodge]

You treat this too emotionaly

[twilit vault]

because i dont believe c is a malicious actor based on the interactions ive seen from him

[gilded mason]

C is just c

He tries his best

[twilit vault]

but the problem is only c & the others in the EN side have sizeable interest in the longevity of the EN side

and they do not get to make the decisions

[gilded mason]

But the odds are not in his favor

[vital arrow]

He’s not. But boy does he have some cooked ass takes sometimes

And unfortunately his takes trump ours, even if ours are the majority

He will only communicate what he agrees w

[glacial zinc]

pauling intesifies

[twilit vault]

yeah agreed it's a hit & miss often with him

[ripe kraken]

This is c first game as a community manager or he did for other games

[twilit vault]

but not coming from a bad place fundamentally

[ripe kraken]

If he did for other games he would already know

[sacred aspen]

C done a great job other community manager of other gachas never speak with people

[ripe kraken]

Don't worry as community managers gain experience they talk less

[gilded mason]

Ngl sometimes not speaking too much is better

[ripe kraken]

[twilit vault]

i gotta run now, catch you guys later

[sacred aspen]

C as community manager is done a great job
No lie other CM games just ignore , Chris is like one of ours

[gilded mason]

Natsu is right lmao

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

[gilded mason]

Its for the best

[ripe kraken]

Experienced cm never interact this much

Even they know

[gilded mason]

CM should keep.communication to a minimum

[ripe kraken]

When to talk

Yes

[sacred aspen]

I prefer Chris than ghost CM

[gilded mason]

Just communicate for.important things like "we get your feedback"

[ripe kraken]

If a cm has this much communication it shows he gets paid less than his efforts

[sacred aspen]

Chris done a great job but just my opinion

[gilded mason]

Dont need to chat every single day haha

[ripe kraken]

Usually if someone gets paid more they care about it even lesser

And that's what the company wants

[sacred aspen]

Agree he deserve a raise

[ripe kraken]

That's why every cm gets a good payment in general

To keep his mouth shut

This happened in many games and will still happen

[gilded mason]

Yeah if cm talks too much his words will be used against him

[ripe kraken]

Yes

[gilded mason]

See

[ripe kraken]

And against devs and company practices

[gilded mason]

[vital arrow]

[ripe kraken]

A cm interacting this highly is also a concern on its own

Also the interactions prove

How bad the game is in its current state

If newbies are active

But they enter for redeem codes

And leave

[half lodge]

[clear gulch]

[quiet verge]

Expected

Same as mine

Only 1 speed roll out of 5 on both

[clear gulch]

I mean sure atleast I got a right side swift acc

I take it

even tho its not really worth to call this a whole event spot

[quiet verge]

I tell myself same

Even just main stat with speed alr drop 1 in a million

[clear gulch]

I rather spend my stabs on x2 anyways than go ham on modules to reroll perfect subs on 1 piece

800 currency aint worth it

[graceful juniper]

Thats why if you aim speed just dont care with the rest lol

Double crit

[quiet verge]

Look at mine

[clear gulch]

I mean if you miss 1 speed and it goes on hp bonus aint bad

[quiet verge]

0 care

[graceful juniper]

Ups wronf one...should be this

[clear gulch]

but them wanting me to spend 800 currencies for rerolling while 4 are locked is scam

[graceful juniper]

Yea but if you aim speed then just care for the speed

[graceful juniper]

Yea pretty much i will just roll on that piece

[tiny sage]

Hey I still need like 10 more of these

[vital arrow]

The best part of this is that u had the gall to flame me during a conversation where i was stating exactly how goofy and idiotic this whole events design was. Reap what u sow goofball

[tribal osprey]

This is why you never roll speed in these shitty events

[clear gulch]

I mean I need tons of swift acc anyways, they just dont want to drop for me, especially as 3 matrix

[outer falcon]

Necroposting but I see bb right there you liar

[zinc bronze]

After intensive research and observation

I'm led to believe that the game is just a big rage bait

[latent iron]

not too bad

but not great either

[zinc bronze]

I got 12 spd eff acc from event, goated event

[tribal osprey]

Dw once they implement my matrix included in the skins you won’t have to worry about those!

[outer falcon]

Global 201 arguing with me for saying she's mid in Rengo, half of them haven't cleared Rengo, the other half have a 2 star clear with her, and one guy with a 3 star says she's very good but his clear has both Yeli and Liliam

[tribal osprey]

What’s the yeli lili team?

[outer falcon]

And then you look at the speed clears and she's not in like the top 20

[tribal osprey]

Yeli lili kloss + the girl?

[glacial zinc]

Nah, truth is
Im mid in rengo

[outer falcon]

Yeli Kloss Ninfo and Liliam

[tribal osprey]

Perfect I was investing to that

[outer falcon]

Dunno about the investments

[tribal osprey]

But no tofu

Only need 12 more guys!

[outer falcon]

But it turns out having 2 of the best damage dealers in the game 555 and probably pretty duped based on how the account looks helps you clear fast Ninfo is just enabling great things with this team!

[tribal osprey]

Yes

Help has arrived

[glass ruin]

are the 2 units good

[zinc bronze]

Did they shadow buff shell drops? Been getting lots of reds lately hmm

[glass ruin]

any thoughts

[glacial zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smooth-brain-silly-cute-gif-12951836389394006733

[zinc bronze]

good if you have lattice

[glacial zinc]

All the thoughts i have:

[glass ruin]

ok which of both is better for pvp

[vital arrow]

Neither

[outer falcon]

All the speed clears I'm seeing with her were literally already speed clears

[glass ruin]

ok then i pull the hot one

[tribal osprey]

Yes. THE HELP HAS ARRIVED

[zinc bronze]

No one tested yet coz can't risk lattice on experimenting

[glass ruin]

my rengo clear is using rosa anyway

so i dont really think i need water

[outer falcon]

If you weren't speed clearing with Lily and Yeli or Liliam and some buff debuff combo already what the fuck were you doing

[glass ruin]

i was doing 4 min rosa runs.

[glacial zinc]

Just ignoring rengo

[outer falcon]

I just mean from people who are making videos

[zinc bronze]

I'm doing vice+sania combo

[tribal osprey]

BuT hAvE You TRiEd HeR ouT wITh liLLiaM?

[outer falcon]

Do you have Lily and Yeli though

[zinc bronze]

I do

[glass ruin]

same lol lily rosa vice sania

[zinc bronze]

I'm fine with my 2 minute team

[outer falcon]

I feel like rgb damage dealers just get completely fucked by attribute switching

[fading delta]

you're pulling for batsby fishy buttplug ?

[outer falcon]

That's valid, you have the tools for the tryhard shit though is my point

Getting Ninfo shouldn't be what pushes you to 3 star no matter what happens

[zinc bronze]

Yeah, trying to speed clear and investing lattice is not worth it for me

[charred minnow]

It has 1 random piece of bb stop baiting 😂

[zinc bronze]

If only they made ninfo useable on 1/1/1

[outer falcon]

She is in the Samool team

But I didn't stick around to see his gears because Lily videos piss me off

It might be useful for you actually if you have the tools

https://youtu.be/Y737TR_FsbQ

[zinc bronze]

I'm going to check

[vital arrow]

I auto discredit any video/comp suggestion that involves Lily

[outer falcon]

I need 14 more pulls to get Bartleby

[vital arrow]

I’m not looking for the game on easy mode answer. If I’m lookin for an answer obv I didn’t get the easy mode ticket

I got lucky and pulled useless shield hoe in 30 pulls, spent the next 40 on tuna buttplug but didn’t hit

Might go full pity who knows

[outer falcon]

I don't think she's useless at all tbh

Just a sidegrade for Rengo comps

[charred minnow]

Cant wait to hear from Adept

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I’m partially meme’ing. But her rimebloom being tied to shield is dogshit design if the shield can’t last more than a fleas fart of dmg

[charred minnow]

He was gonna 4/5/5 ninfo and finally clear rengo

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Had they not tied her singular unique buff to something that is useless and awful I’d be more excited

[outer falcon]

4 5 5 is an entirely different beast I think honestly

[charred minnow]

Nah

[vital arrow]

Most likely

But I’ll never know

[charred minnow]

She'll be the same amount of useless

I have her s3 maxed only

And if I go for speed I can only get an 11k shield tops

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Does shield disappear insta?