#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

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graceful cradle
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How do you watch two shining examples of how not to fuck up then decide to do the same mistakes lol

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E7 meta was not healthier than this until last week

tiny sage
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If they had Nerfed Inferno Yes

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They didn't

graceful cradle
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In fact the meta was so bad in E7 that a lot of HoF legend players opted to not even try for top 3

indigo oyster
outer falcon
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First of all

tiny sage
outer falcon
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When is anything even coming besides new units

tiny sage
graceful cradle
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Who knows graven

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Someday lol

warped stump
outer falcon
tiny sage
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We need Decent Aurora Nerfs, Sharon Nerfs, Rengo Nerfs, and Also Preferably Terror/Hoyan/Doki Nerfs

tribal osprey
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You can only auto clear NORMAL ember

warped stump
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like 11 people total in mythic this season and top 60 being diamond is insane

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people just do not want to play

graceful cradle
outer falcon
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Isn't Hoyan kinda solved with like, Coochie and Obol

indigo oyster
warped stump
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and its very clear

fading delta
tiny sage
indigo oyster
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then another thread will appear

Abyss difficulty megathread

warped stump
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i actually do believe we will get an abyss difficulty at some point and people will be very unhappy about it

graceful cradle
warped stump
tiny sage
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The Meta Is shit.

warped stump
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3 weeks and basically no one is playing because the meta is miserable to play

graceful cradle
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It's a lack of people honestly

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People are quitting the game not even RTA

tiny sage
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The Game is Shit(Balance wise)

silent pewter
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They need to work on their wording lmao. Reading that they are giving us someone to specifically crush Rengo is one of the weirdest lines i ever read in a patch note. Like they are doing us a favor dv_frogKekOwO

warped stump
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sure you can make the argument that 'just deal with it' but when its so bad no one is even motivated to try and play, even if they do play the game, its fucked

tiny sage
ripe kraken
warped stump
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esp here i am willing to bet there is a solid section of people who quit because rta sucks as a direct reason

graceful cradle
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See they think bb is the problem but that's still not going to address how strong healing is in bruiser mirrors

warped stump
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advertise as a pvp game, get through the pain of pve to hit pvp and realize the shit is awful, why would you keep playing

graceful cradle
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They just need to make frenzy affect healing at a better scale before it zeroes out

ripe kraken
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Damn nuparu going to the other side

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What days have come

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I didn't want this at all lol

graceful cradle
spring yarrow
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Doomparu era

graceful cradle
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Everyone is being hyperbolic acting like it's some massive drop on activity from last season to this season. It was a small subset of people getting even smaller

mental mural
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From small to smaller

zinc bronze
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This shit's so funny

warped stump
mental mural
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Is plat Stull enough for top 300

graceful cradle
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And lack of 3rd bpp below diamond so bruiser accts that aren't established just lose their 1 bruiser and instalose

mental mural
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Filthy

warped stump
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idk this meta is completely indefensible and it being so bad is worthy of a hotfix change to actually fix the problems

tribal osprey
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Guys, in case you didn’t know from the massive Liliam buff… PULL HER NOW NOW NOW BUY BUY BUY

pallid basin
mental mural
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Absolutely disgusting

zinc bronze
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They made a solution for rengo, then suggests using liliam zf_hahaha

warped stump
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because if people have no reason to slog through the pve shitshow, then what is anyone playing for

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its a pvp game after all...

silent pewter
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I think gear swapping turned a lot of ppl off from rta in season 0. And now its a snoozefest so it will be a bit hard to reignite anything

tribal osprey
zinc bronze
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They shouldve just left that line out

mental mural
graceful cradle
mental mural
indigo matrix
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@mental mural bro

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I came back from the dead

graceful cradle
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It was always a lack of players issue

indigo matrix
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To laugh about this shit

mental mural
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Stab you back?

indigo matrix
silent pewter
indigo matrix
indigo oyster
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call vampy back too

mental mural
indigo oyster
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we all laughing

mental mural
warped stump
graceful cradle
warped stump
spring yarrow
zinc bronze
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Instead of nerfing they're just gonna introduce new units to counter it

warped stump
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also healing is only as powerful as you can be alive to be healed

zinc bronze
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That's my take on this

indigo matrix
# mental mural MY HERMANO

Ill dig an even deeper grave so i cant crawl back for the next “big announcement” where theyll announce that theres more to come and just to wait dv_frogKekOwO

warped stump
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thats why people hated revelation if they had no swiftrush runes - they cant sustain if they're dead

mental mural
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Make #inferno great again

ripe kraken
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Announcement saying pull lilliam is funny af

zinc bronze
warped stump
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but now you can sustain through basically anything until super late in the match because you are at zero risk of being bursted down even with optimal conditions from the opponent

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
mental mural
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This channel being dead and boring lately.
This announcement is perfect

spring yarrow
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insane pressure for anybody that just started

warped stump
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i can 100% guarantee that

graceful cradle
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But that's all mostly been addressed by anyone who's still playing but in bruiser mirrors a lot of stuff is already off of bb since you don't need it for the mirrors

warped stump
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but now we're at the opposite - optimal setups feel like they dont actually reward anything if you just cant be killed

indigo oyster
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then they milk again next banner

ripe kraken
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Imo

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Yeli never had a situation

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Where they were this desperate

zinc bronze
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We beta testers

indigo oyster
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2 bird 1 stone ahhh solution

ripe kraken
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Guys I can't wait for them to pay the cc so much

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That they will hype this announcement to the moon

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We going to nasa with this @mental mural

indigo oyster
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lemme buy the stock first

indigo matrix
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CZN release cannot come sooner

zinc bronze
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First thing I did was CTRL+F and typed reconfig

ripe kraken
indigo matrix
ripe kraken
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Pls keep a flower

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A funny guy

zinc bronze
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He'll come back

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Soon

ripe kraken
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Idk xyro will allow him tho

mental mural
indigo matrix
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Whatd bro do dv_frogKekOwO

undone vortex
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HELP IS ON THE WAY BTCHES

ripe kraken
mental mural
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The help

tribal osprey
zinc bronze
ripe kraken
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My pve was only 15 mins there

indigo matrix
mental mural
ripe kraken
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And spent more time on rta

ripe kraken
undone vortex
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The release of Anima like these is part of a wider effort to bring more strategic counters and tools into the roster, both for PvE and PvP.

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ud think wouldnt u

ripe kraken
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I am in the discord server as well

indigo matrix
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Whats Star Saviour?

ripe kraken
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Another e7 competition

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But by korean devs

zinc bronze
ripe kraken
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I can send u official discord link

zinc bronze
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Bet

pallid basin
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it's so cool when every good clear of a boss has one required character.

pallid basin
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tru

errant mountain
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"Just pull this unit now, hyperlinkers! If you do, you, too, can now play the fucking game!"

spring yarrow
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man I'm just gonna camp in hoyan mines

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turned me into a cc player

indigo matrix
warped stump
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please god help us all

indigo matrix
ripe kraken
outer falcon
# warped stump

Nah you see Rengo is actually easy if you're a 400lb gigachad

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It's your fault if you weren't born with 3 different diagnoses that make you totally incompatible with sane people and parents who didn't care about you

graceful juniper
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Instead of nerf rengo they bring new unit zf_hahaha

ripe kraken
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To take us to the moon

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I already packed everything up

pallid basin
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i wanna see the sponsored ccs spin this

ripe kraken
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Hey ghi

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Can I dm u star saviour discord

tribal osprey
indigo matrix
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Yall theyre working 24/7 trust, its not ai

ripe kraken
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Yo stab can I dm ya a brief explanation of czn mechanics

spark mural
indigo matrix
ripe kraken
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Yeah I worked on these kind of card turn based projects in past

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I am a small indie dev

ripe kraken
indigo oyster
pallid basin
spark mural
pallid basin
indigo matrix
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Not the mechanics but yeah the artstyle wasnt for me

mental mural
mental mural
indigo matrix
mental mural
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Let me find it

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No effort

undone vortex
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also asshu has 2 different splash arts

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and nell's suspicious bandaid

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obol also has Acheron and his name spelled wrong lol

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tho the asshu one is more like they didnt bother checking lel

mental mural
indigo matrix
mental mural
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They need to answer some questions

ripe kraken
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They will answer

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To give us them more feedback

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Make 250 k threads

pallid basin
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I've never seen the top two channels this active

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and it's like 90% negative

zinc bronze
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I feel like most of us are dissapointed coz it's just words and no actual detailed changes

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If the patch will be announced on tuesday

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And will be live after a couple days

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Then we're just waiting while being frustrated with the game everyday

inland chasm
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Ngl the announcement looks promising

warped stump
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parts of the announcement seem really good

zinc bronze
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I agree, the module crafting and other skipping parts of PVE are good

warped stump
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a bigger part of it reads as corporatespeak 'we hear you!'

zinc bronze
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They just had to nerf rengo

gilded mason
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Im more and more convinced we're just test for cn

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They're calling cn release "global"

zinc bronze
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Just reduce the HP% like 10-15% and our runs would be that much faster

gilded mason
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And have global celebration

inland chasm
indigo oyster
gilded mason
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We did not get any global celebration event lol

outer falcon
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I'm at war in General I guess zf_hahaha

gilded mason
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So we werent even considered global

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Were we

indigo oyster
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we're beta

inland chasm
gilded mason
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And now they're coming out with gear crafting (which idk why they didnt have at the start)

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Which is just "wrapping up development"

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Does that mean they didnt even think about it until players complained lol

edgy bolt
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that's the problem, don't be happy we're getting it. complain we didnt get it sooner

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you cant be pleased

indigo oyster
gilded mason
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Aight im changing my name

zinc bronze
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A new char is fine to help with pve, that's the norm for gachas. But atleast make it SR so everyone can build them

inland chasm
gilded mason
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Theres like 7 sets crammed into 1 boss

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Plus theres 2 matrix mods and 2 substat mods

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Like hello

zinc bronze
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Yeah, there's too much layers of RNG

inland chasm
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Yeah module farming is trash

zinc bronze
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I get the flat stat on the right side, it exists with these type of games

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But adding more is just ehhh

indigo oyster
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We've reach perfection

gilded mason
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Issue is the number of goddamn sets

gilded mason
edgy bolt
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i've been building some characters on 12 bb 8 swift 6 smite. found a use for some 2 matrix that isnt broken sets

gilded mason
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Im just here for fun

edgy bolt
gilded mason
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I love drama

edgy bolt
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damn i knew i shouldnt talk in the discord

gilded mason
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Right now im just doing dailies

zinc bronze
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I'm not even max refreshing anymore

gilded mason
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I dont feel like doing cage rumble and all that shit

gilded mason
zinc bronze
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I just spend the first 60 gems

gilded mason
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I used to

edgy bolt
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i max refreshed for like 2 and a half months

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got a lot of shi

zinc bronze
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Yeah, I used to max refresh on season 0 coz I wanna climb RTA

gilded mason
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I've been farming for fury momentum furyedge for more than a month.

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Never got one

edgy bolt
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now im just spending daily stam in shadowflame for bulwark bb smite jackals

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and saving for banners

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feels good

gilded mason
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Then i gave up max refreshing

zinc bronze
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I also stopped chasing red passive shells

edgy bolt
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if you have fury momentum raid you're fine

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or fury keeneye raid

zinc bronze
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If I get gold with right stats

gilded mason
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Casino restart needs some pity systems...like shell crafting system

edgy bolt
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hell even fury onslaught

zinc bronze
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It's fine for me

gilded mason
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Oh yeah those shell rng stats

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Horrible

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Needs some kind of pity system as well

zinc bronze
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Soon zf_hahaha

edgy bolt
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that would be cool

zinc bronze
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Just post a feedback thread about it and they'll read it

gilded mason
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So the big announcement is done

edgy bolt
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how many you guys have?

indigo oyster
edgy bolt
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fully built? insane

indigo oyster
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yes

edgy bolt
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thats 45

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holy

zinc bronze
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I have 40 zf_hahaha

tiny sage
warped stump
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working on the 6th row personally

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36 total

outer falcon
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I've never counted. I should

tribal osprey
outer falcon
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I have 34 level 40 shells

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Interesting

tribal osprey
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I only have 28 but most have red passives

pallid basin
outer falcon
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They keep giving me red speed where I don't want it dv_frogKekOwO like my Fuqiu supernova

pallid basin
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and most of the announcement is "we're listening! gives us the feedback! c'mon we're waiting!"

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like cool that they see what people are complaining about but in most cases solutions aren't offered it's just an empty acknowledgement that we don't like xyz rn

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it'd be really surprising if they didn't see what we don't like. it's hammered every single day on discord/youtube/reddit

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and then one of the few real concrete updates is... two units designed to be one-dimensional rengo defeaters?

graceful juniper
tribal osprey
pallid basin
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and then the 2D artwork is AI slop. like if you're gonna use AI use a decent one at least. some crazy models out there

pallid basin
ripe kraken
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Be sure to check out artiar guide to clear rengo inferno

pallid basin
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I get it, it's a gacha

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but like

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pretend. a little bit. roleplay that you aren't trying so hard to pry my wallet open

graceful juniper
pallid basin
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take me to dinner and ask me about my hobbies

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then when I believe you, you can take my credit card to bed and I'll watch from the corner

graceful juniper
warped stump
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this is 100% trying to sell a solution to a problem they let manifest

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its rather disgusting

pallid basin
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I do still have cope hope but this announcement was very milquetoast and tone deaf.

pallid basin
warped stump
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everyone's like 'oh boy rengo is dumb because it basically oneshots without bloodbath and the silence add makes runs extra dicey' and they're like 'ok what if we sell the solution instead of just slightly toning it down'

graceful juniper
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No money spend no sunk cost fallacy baby wooh

pallid basin
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honestly it's not my money that's got me hooked. I just latticed yeli and pulled lily finally. so I want to use Lily lmao

tribal osprey
pallid basin
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and slap bosses with something besides DoT

tribal osprey
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either way I want to see if I can just use liliam and yeli to speed clear it

pallid basin
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they have until I get bored of lily to actually give us these mystery changes. it's not like it's just this game, I've tried other mobile games and they all suck tbh

warped stump
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ppl talk about 'respect for your time' while safe rengo teams take 6-7m to run

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lol

pallid basin
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if there was an actual good mobile game I'd just dip

warped stump
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but its okay we'll sell you a solution for it...

pallid basin
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they need to be a little more aggressive with the bs tedious stuff than they're hinting here tho

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the unskippable cutscenes every day is insane.

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I haven't done phantom in weeks

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keep forgetting to do union boss because I dread it

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I have never done infinity train once

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doing stuff I didn't even want to do just to do Xiada's event is annoying too

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i just want to spam shells atm

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but I have to take a detour

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same with candy machine. it just feels clunky

outer falcon
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Inf Train is tough because you have to select things but Phantom is just an alt tab away for 5 minutes no?

pallid basin
outer falcon
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Ah it's super convenient

pallid basin
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eh I have sometimes and it was cool at first

tribal osprey
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18:08 "How about we just nurf rengo hp by like 10% damage by 10% and then those existing slower teams can beat them?"

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Oh no

pallid basin
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but WoW patch dropped

tribal osprey
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SeanB is getting kicked out the window

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QUICK! RUN @quaint kiln

pallid basin
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no change to module speed checking costs

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no change to reconfig chips

tribal osprey
inland chasm
indigo oyster
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Your voice matter to etheria restart

mental mural
inland chasm
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Next seanb video he is falling out the windowzf_hahaha

gilded mason
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my reaction to this is similar to seanb's lol

inland chasm
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Ig jack is coming for ya aswellpepethinking

gilded mason
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JUST NERF RENGO MAN

gilded mason
inland chasm
inland chasm
pallid basin
zinc bronze
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Ok, how do you counter amber tiamat when your cleaving or CCing? She just freeze and take a turn at full HP.

gilded mason
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they're so scared of nerfing rengo, its like asking for their butt virginity

tribal osprey
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21:06 "But what if, let's say new players join the game after this banner ends. ... so like.... FuQiu?????"

outer falcon
tribal osprey
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21:29 "Your voice matters to Etheria Restart!" HE SAID THE THING

inland chasm
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Idc abt rengo tbh i safe all my gems for gear crafting and than shred rengo to death with andrewzf_hahaha

outer falcon
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I'm telling you Blue Andrew is a crouching tiger

indigo oyster
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doesnt live up to the hype

outer falcon
indigo oyster
outer falcon
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Nobody else has his def ceiling

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He's gonna go big one day ...

indigo oyster
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he is big

warped stump
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like sure, I could pull them myself - but if in a month (or 3, or 6, etc) I rope my friends into trying the game again because it's better on some fronts - what will they do if they get to the great wall of rengo and need to counter cleave (or build codex cc units) lol

tribal osprey
warped stump
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yeah, that's really what it feels like

outer falcon
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Don't you know!

warped stump
# outer falcon They will get good or quit, because Rengo is actually easy

rengo is simple sure if you're willing to spend 7-8m a run and farm a ton of aurora first, but is it the expectation that people will spend over an hour per 10x while also having pretty mediocre drop rates lmao

that or 'just pull the correct units', had friends quit over that too - release infernos being so overtuned that it felt like it was insurmountable without Lily definitely caused a few to just drop the game

outer falcon
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It's very interesting seeing subsets of people claim that it's fine

indigo oyster
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but it is /s

graceful juniper
indigo oyster
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if my f2p team which consist of yeli sania lily and viper can clear it you can too, since im f2p /s

half lodge
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So IT is isn't even selling a solution because you literally cannot build them

gilded mason
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299 dollar 12 lattice pack!

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"Supreme Lattice Bundle"

indigo oyster
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60 buck savedpoggers

gilded mason
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30000% value!!!

half lodge
gilded mason
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Put the bundle on a timer

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Same length as the new unit banner

undone vortex
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but they conveniently chose after buffing liliam and the spending event

gilded mason
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Give you rengo crusher you complaining?!

vague violet
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The solution to Rengu is to buy more pulls—Jack’s logic

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He’s def r-tarded

gilded mason
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Thats one of the best thing about this game

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!!!

vague violet
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After a pull event no less

zenith cipher
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Bruh, I'm about to be done with the game. I've tried to not lose interest in this game, but it's really giving a hard time.

vague violet
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The cynical cash-grabbiness is revolting at this point. They assume their player base are complete chuds

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Maybe they’re right

zenith cipher
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This announcement just was not it.

vague violet
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Swing and a miss and the bat hit them in the face

graceful juniper
vague violet
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Their “solution” is obviously to pack these needed heroes into massive pull banners like the did the test case with

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Cause problem > sell solution

half lodge
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And you cant build them anyway

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Doesnt really matter

graceful juniper
zenith cipher
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If their solution to unnecessarily hard PvE content is to sell units that make it trivial I'll just move on. The betas were so much more promising than the actual game.

vague violet
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I’m done tbh. Deleting and done.

zenith cipher
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Yeah, I'm considering leaving aswell. It was fun while it lasted tho.

vague violet
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Too old to play sh!t that has no respect or a convincing illusion of respect for the player

half lodge
vague violet
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I’m leaving it to the dogs, sorry mate. Gave this sh-t-show 3 months of my time

gilded mason
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I've been saying from the start these devs dunno what they're doing

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Pretty sure we're just 6th beta

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Just think about how they needed people to tell them "skins make money"

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Not recolors

mental mural
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We will be there for greatness

ripe kraken
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Until cn release happens

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It's a beta

warped dune
graceful juniper
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Is this S or not....i cant tell

gilded mason
zenith cipher
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Personally I don't think this will help.

quick sapphire
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To me it was about a 3/10, nothing important was actually addressed, if you're stuck on rengo then just pull these units bro and obviously they will be selling us reconfig chips and lattice in the shop, leave more feedback now we are listening we promise

No word on reset event either, even though it's posted about like 5 times a day and even the CCs want it.

The module crafting being an event? Making the game even more of a waiting game, wait for x2, wait for module crafting.. like idk.

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And why can't the x5 speed be applied across the board, why only in certain modes?

graceful juniper
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#1405797633108475924 need a bump so dev will try to adding this or thinking the idea of this into the game.

turbid ridge
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So the announcment was just we hear you, trust us here some solutions to buy

gilded mason
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Also double banner

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Right after the summon event

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Breh

quick sapphire
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XD

gilded mason
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Didnt they say they werent doing double banners anymore

undone vortex
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did they?

gilded mason
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After the fuqu and na whore

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Didnt they??

undone vortex
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idr

gilded mason
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I could have swore they did

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Well

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They also said they wont buff or nerf mid season

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So i guess its fine

open fable
graceful juniper
# gilded mason Right after the summon event

I will just say as someone who spend on summon event,i already get back my pull to pity those 2 but oh boi after those banner gone,people gonna complain about rengo again or why they miss the banner or lattice dv_frogKekOwO

quick sapphire
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I'm very certain they did say that

open fable
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But prob after we hit 100 animus

errant ravine
half lodge
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I AM changing my overall attitide to growth mindset

forest wolf
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finally they accepted rengo is overtuned so instead of fixing, they are releasing units to clear it easier

ripe kraken
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And our madnessloid died for this

half lodge
ripe kraken
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Yes so how ur plan to play etheria goes now casual or wait for cn

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Fran

half lodge
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U know i AM actually really comurious about the chinese reaction to a lot of system

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Because from other gachas they can be even more loud than us

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I AM playing casually and feel okay

ripe kraken
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They won't Dodge

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Much

undone vortex
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idk they'll prolly be disappointed that there isn't much to whale on and the biggest thing is

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u can't rlly buy convenience

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but hey they'll get hella pulls

forest wolf
# half lodge U know i AM actually really comurious about the chinese reaction to a lot of sys...

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here is their reaction

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they ask questions and Jack still dodges to answer them 🙂

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First question : why is PVE so hard
Answer: how people should handle PVE instead of a direct answer ^^;

glacial zinc
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"It's a marathon not a sprint"

forest wolf
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I'm in love with their fix for rengo

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just a double unit banner

graceful juniper
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Atleast give us little mercy to get some unit after we get wreck by rng

forest wolf
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well they should start selling premate teams

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or release banners for "Inferno Rengo Banner" and pull all the team units there for people to summon

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and then put a lattice pack on the shop for 500usd

warped stump
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honestly fuck it if you pull 5 SSRs at once you should get a lattice tree that spits perfect lattices at you

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this solves nothing but would be funny

forest wolf
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but after watching that CN Q/A, I finally realized Jack's dream

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he wants people to play/farm for a year or more to be actually able to play the game

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he doesnt want players to farm inferno immediately or do endgame content

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while he doesnt understand that nobody currently playing the game plays the 12 stages of any threshold dungeons

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if they were actually doing their research, they would have realized that every gacha game is trying to make their farming stages less, like E7 dropping from 12 or more stages into 3

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while we have 14 stages in Etheria where nobody touches the first 12 🤡

half lodge
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What for

forest wolf
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hunts

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like wyvern

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it had the same system Etheria has now

half lodge
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You mean more difficulty options

forest wolf
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yes, useless extra stages you have to do once to move on to the next step

graceful cradle
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It's redundant for sure

forest wolf
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there is 0 point in having them in the game

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that is how disconnected the devs are

graceful cradle
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They should just nerf Rengo but creating a problem and selling the solution is a tale as old as time

half lodge
forest wolf
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it is called Pride

graceful cradle
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Which is whatever they do it in E7 I didn't expect differently here since the devs seem to want to relive all of E7s greatest flops too

warped stump
forest wolf
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just wait till they release asia servers

graceful cradle
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I mean i think a lot of you are still just crying

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But if you didnt see them selling the rengo solution coming you were just too optimistic

forest wolf
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then you have neveer been in this channel before

graceful cradle
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I'll take better communication over half the shit people are asking for

warped stump
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unfortunately it's just a sign that at this point the ship of reason has sailed

forest wolf
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what better communication bro? I can tell you for 100% all those "dev notes" are stuff C typed after talking to Jack a few times

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they just added some pictures

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and released it

warped stump
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idk I'm having some fun but shit like this is really stupid and not a particularly inspiring thing to see

forest wolf
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you can see C's fingerprints all over the text

graceful cradle
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Oh for sure but announcing future changes and acknowledgement they messed up is better than complete radio silence all the time

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If you cant even see that idk what to tell you

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But coming from E7 where shit is on fire for a year

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And still nothing

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This is far better

warped stump
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future changes is a stretch, we'll see how much they actually change and if it's meaningful

forest wolf
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all I read is promises

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since day 1

warped stump
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one thing I've learned dealing with corporations is don't trust anything they say they'll do until they actually do it

tiny sage
graceful cradle
tiny sage
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If you Don't even Mention Rengo. Its better

graceful cradle
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Every single patch is like a small w marred by big ass Ls

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Like the Liliam buffs were a terrible idea and now here we are

tiny sage
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@ JackZZZ Just Nerf Inferno So I can shill bro.

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PLEASE IM BEGGING BRO

graceful cradle
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Idk why they seem to want to keep farming stages tedious it's still a huge mistake imo but at this point I'd just like it if they increased Lattice income so I can put Lattice into the units that reduce the BS ig

forest wolf
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they do not want to keep farming stages tedious, they simply not want you to farm inferno stages

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they even say that releasing Inferno was a mistake on release

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you can read the Chinese Q/A

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or watch

tiny sage
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I wanna Stream this Game and Not Complain the whole time about how yall Refuse to improve the game and that it is 50x worse then beta.

tiny sage
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We Already knew that since the talk with Jena/SeanB/Volkin

graceful cradle
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Yup things were fine in beta but it's okay

forest wolf
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they also said the anima pool will be more than 100 soon

tiny sage
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where they cut out 2 hours of Inferno Complaints.

forest wolf
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that is why they are releasing double units

graceful cradle
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When it's their domestic audience crying about Inferno they'll nerf

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So at this point its just a waiting game

graceful cradle
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They'll have a CN audience

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Whether its a happy one is a different story lmao

tiny sage
graceful cradle
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A lot of CN players won't even play until they have their own dedicated server

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It's a pride thing

tiny sage
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Thats why they have to Add in the New Daily Packs.

weak meteor
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well its fine, if they dont listen to our feedback lets hope the CN audience will make them listen

graceful cradle
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They'll also probably make whaling less crappy too since they like to swipe

weak meteor
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isnt that the whole reason for the monetization portion that was mentioned, to make more value packs HAHA

tiny sage
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yep

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its for CN

weak meteor
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the current packs are so ass

graceful cradle
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Yup there's literally nothing I want to spend on

weak meteor
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if they release that in CN they will get shit on so hard

graceful cradle
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If it doesn't have lattice it gives like no value

weak meteor
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yea currently the only thing worth buying is the lattice pack and even that is questionable value, like literally just 1 lattice and thats it loool

warped stump
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Put crystals in packs plz thx

graceful cradle
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Yup one pack was literally a lattice and 50k silver for $30 cad lol

weak meteor
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like xiada event packs are literally better than the weekly packs haha

graceful cradle
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But it's whatever anything to let me continue skipping trek which takes so much fking time

weak meteor
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yea the skipp ember is nice, wish they would do that for rally too

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rally is kinda zzz too

graceful cradle
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I don't mind rally since it's just a series of battles

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But Trek is literally impossible for me to do while working

weak meteor
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the running around stages kills my motivation everytime i do it

graceful cradle
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So i then have to take hours on my days off/time after work to do that shit. I just clear normal and a bit of hard and chill it's too time consuming when some of the fights are like 30-40mins of manually playing

graceful cradle
graceful cradle
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Like no thanks. Miss me with that bs

weak meteor
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some fights are legit tedious

graceful cradle
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Certain things in the game just aren't fun. And I learned my lesson from E7 I won't force myself to do shit I find awful otherwise I'll burnout. So I usually just do Hard Trek until it starts to be too difficult to auto then call it a day

gilded mason
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but still

forest wolf
graceful cradle
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Like I think Anisync being hard is great and the rewards for it are good. But there's no reason for the farming stuff to be that tedious

forest wolf
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but at least they noticed weekly packs are not selling a lot so they will add more packs

graceful cradle
ripe kraken
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It's funny how after every threads where active we all return to this thread

half lodge
forest wolf
half lodge
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Classic

ripe kraken
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This is the final boss thread

graceful cradle
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YeH the other threads have legit idiots in them

tiny sage
graceful cradle
forest wolf
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you pay 120usd and WAIT 1 month

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Etheria Waitstart

weak meteor
graceful cradle
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But yeah the f2p lattice income should be about enough to do 1.3 chars a month

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Paid should be around like 1.6 in terms of lattice

forest wolf
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they are releasing 4 to 5 units per month, no?

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2-1-2-1-2 etc

graceful cradle
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Like the overall lattice per month needs to be about 4-6 higher

simple flame
graceful cradle
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Idek anymore they said no more double banners

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But those don't look lile there's an SR there

simple flame
forest wolf
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I wouldnt be surprised if they release a Lattice Banner next, it was a meme on twitch chat but wouldnt be surprised at all

graceful cradle
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It is 3 week cycles yea RGB -> LD

weak meteor
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latticce banner? wtf loool

simple flame
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the new RGB is double banner though

forest wolf
simple flame
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people shouldnt pull on it

forest wolf
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one is a buffer/shielder and the other is a dps

graceful cradle
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Yeah that's annoying like they said with Fuqiu and Nahor they wouldn't do anymore doubles

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Alas here we are

simple flame
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they didnt say that

simple flame
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T_T

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you misinform yourself fam

forest wolf
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as I said, Jack's goal is to hit 100 units ASAP so expect more doubles

ripe kraken
graceful cradle
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Ugh yall really gonna make me dig through their posts

simple flame
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they said tehy dropping frequency.

ripe kraken
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We are at 64 now will be 66 soon

forest wolf
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they said no more double banners

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3rd hypertalk

simple flame
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i hope they drop double RGB banner soon

tiny sage
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The ysaid no LD back to back

graceful cradle
simple flame
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well let me go fact check

forest wolf
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they did say it specifically

simple flame
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in the world of internet is easy to check brb i will go find out

tame ivy
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That's totally me ! FunnyHaha
i'm quit the game before pull event (along with my friend)

  • the reason i quit is i can't clear Inferno.. and progress more in the game

i'm trying build a character to max (5/5/5) but.. cleary i can't clear it with just character i have..
i don't have Lily , DSania , Kloss , Yeli and i don't think my Gacha luck would help me either.. so.. yeah.. i'm done FrogCoolCry

(I stick around.. hope that Dev will do something about it and then i'll re-join the game K9_Kitchen_A8_Doge_Hehe )

simple flame
graceful cradle
forest wolf
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that is probably fake

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let him triple check

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ask chatgpt etc

graceful cradle
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Lol that's from the YouTube video I just screenshotted that

weak meteor
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they will just say its a mistake and move on

forest wolf
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it was sarcasm

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sorry

simple flame
graceful cradle
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I realized it after the last one

simple flame
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oof

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poor communication

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poor listening from me

graceful cradle
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Yeah we're not supposed to be getting anymore double banners

forest wolf
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no, they are just not sincere

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as I said multiple times since day 1

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I dont trust them a single bit

simple flame
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tbf the hyper talks are always fill with grammar error/translation error

forest wolf
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this is not the first time

simple flame
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which is not good

graceful cradle
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I mean I'm fine but it's bullshit for f2p especially after a pull event

simple flame
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but yeah lol

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well..knowing how they do events

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i am not pulling on the new units lol

forest wolf
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they always make community managers say what players want to hear

weak meteor
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dont worry the wishbinder event will come back soon to suck more pulls out of f2p again

forest wolf
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that is all

simple flame
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i am saving for wish events now

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the game do give out a lot of pulls though.

graceful cradle
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@loud locust if you guys are going to do this you should give people free pulls. It's super scummy

simple flame
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lets look at each issue differently. realistically getting pull resources is NOT this game problem

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matter of fact their banner release is on PAR with other gacha

graceful cradle
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I mean if it was just 1 banner then there would be no reason to complain

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Since you should be able to pity even from 0 pulls before it leaves

simple flame
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you have the option to either pull on NEW units , or pull on wishing event for the guaranteed unit at 100 + the RNG pulls you get.

graceful cradle
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But 2.. sheesh I feel bad for f2p

simple flame
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i cant speak on behalf of f2p since i am not f2p

gilded mason
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What I think needs fixing NOW:

  • Nerf rengo by 10-15%
  • Remove 2 matrix and 2-3 substat gear from inferno
  • Perm gear and shell crafting system
  • Once shell sub stat reaches a higher tier, it should not drop back down
  • Remove the running stages
  • Auto battle limit change to 30
  • 8x speed
weak meteor
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u shouldnt tbh, the other time the f2p defenders were saying its fine if u save pulls LOL

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so they shouldnt be complaining

forest wolf
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just appreciate we are getting 1 LD banners per rotation 🙂

simple flame
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we need tags if we are f2p or spenders tbh

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everyone have very different experiences

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even as a spender, i find that i get a lot of pulls with packs + freebies

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i spent to get 50% for wish event, and now i am back at 160 pulls (% paid-f2p idk)

graceful cradle
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Shell and Gear crafting systems I'd only want after they fix the bs otherwise it's just another resource sink for more shit

simple flame
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no i need the crafting system now

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dont need to fix rng or farming if crafting system is elite

graceful juniper
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Pull is not a problem

gilded mason
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Too much rng

simple flame
gilded mason
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Too much time investment

half lodge
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You cannot build the units anyway due to lettuces

graceful cradle
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Yeah like I can get both the new SSRs but I swiped to ensure I got both Lattice during that wishbinder event

gilded mason
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these are the 2 big issues

graceful juniper
simple flame
graceful cradle
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Honestly the biggest issue i see f2p running into constantly is they are still gem refreshing

simple flame
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wdym

graceful cradle
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They really need to be pooling all resources for banners and just accepting they cannot farm as much as people who are swiping

simple flame
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actually thats fair. i am supplementing my pulls from spending , but my refreshing been supplied by the game

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modules > having units ngl to you

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but lowkey i still dont have modules so...xD

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but thats likely my own skill not good enough to find modules correctly

graceful cradle
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So many people had like zero gems when Liliam came out and like there was nothing to pull for since like week 1 Fuqiu/Nahor so they should've had loke 10k gems

graceful juniper
graceful juniper
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At most 60...and the worst is 200-300

graceful cradle
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It's just not sustainable long term lol

simple flame
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what..i fresh max everyday

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i promise you it is

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xD

graceful cradle
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Also gems are like the most annoying to whale for

simple flame
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hmmm

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i promise you now

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i am 98% max refreshing

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on some day i get tired and i dont

graceful juniper
# simple flame wya in the game progression

All inferno on auto,decent timer like 3 minute on rengo but lower everywhere else

Dog always SSS,can do ember trek hard 24/42(if i try hard)

And the other event with doki boss i can reach the 3rd difficulty

simple flame
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but thats like 1-2 days , been here say day 1

graceful cradle
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There's bo reason to spend on just gems unless you're spending just to spend

simple flame
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i need to farm modules

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my module quality is very bad

graceful cradle
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And gems aren't in a lot of the packs so you have to spend directly for them

simple flame
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i dont buy gems

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thats what i am saying

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i know

graceful cradle
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Just makes it super inefficient to swipe on

simple flame
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as a spender i never buy gem packs

tribal osprey
simple flame
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well except the first 2x bonus packs beyond that i dont buy gems

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i am telling you now i have been max refreshing on ingame currency income

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like its kind of lowkey insane

graceful cradle
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I can't even max refresh on that but I did also pull 4x Liliam

ripe kraken
simple flame
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damn YOU DID 4x LD GEM PULL?

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yeah thats alot bruh

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i will never rationalize gem pulling on LD banner

graceful cradle
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It was about 1.5 on gems rest was packs

simple flame
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when you can luck sac LD units from standard.

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wait you say 4x u meant 4multi?

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or 4 dupes?

graceful cradle
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But even before they buffed her I knew her kit was stupid af and very safe for the future

simple flame
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4 multi isnt that bad

graceful cradle
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And her 2nd imprint is pretty important for high damage builds

simple flame
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yeah i got her +3

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i am praying for +4

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ngl praying for +5

graceful cradle
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Nope 3/5

simple flame
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i have been single pulling every apex

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lol

graceful cradle
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I pulled her first copy in 20 pulls

simple flame
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lucky

graceful cradle
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But 2 went to pity

simple flame
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i ...pity

graceful cradle
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1 was around 50 or so

simple flame
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i think you did more liliam pulls ngl

weak meteor
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dont worry next ld will be more insane FrogCoolCry

simple flame
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also ngl i got a standard liliam.

graceful cradle
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Probably after Liliam lmao

simple flame
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this is why i dont believe in maxing out LD dupes

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when you can luck sac them from standard

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it feels bad LOl

ripe kraken
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Don't worry guys next LD will be released with abyss and if u pull her abyss mode will be joke

graceful cradle
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She had a kit eas was worth getting the 10% stats and the crit chance

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I don't regret it tbh

simple flame
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i got max hein, mio, doki,messiah from standard.

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i am htere with you zaee

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xD

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well ngl i only pull after teh buff

graceful cradle
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Plus like I play E7

simple flame
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i got a single copy..welldue to collecting habits xD

graceful cradle
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Almost all my LDs are SSS

simple flame
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yeah, end game is LD teams anyway

graceful cradle
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I just farm coins at this point

simple flame
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i aint putting anymore lattices into RGB

graceful cradle
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Don't bring that evil here lol

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"It's not 50/50 if there's 2 units in the banner"

graceful juniper
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Did i hear 50/50?

wide aurora
graceful cradle
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But in all seriousness I do love E7s custom group banners

weak meteor
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no they will let u choose which featured u want so its gonna be 1 banner still

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/jk

graceful cradle
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In the future I'd like ER to do that but not rn cuz you know people's heads will explode

wide aurora
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Yeah in the future it'd be awesome

simple flame
graceful cradle
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I even want the same coin shop system it was honestly ingenious

simple flame
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they want "new unit banner" , custom banner, standards

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thats the cycle they want right now lol

wide aurora
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Who's they?

graceful cradle
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The problem with that in ER rn is people will demand LDs in it

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The overall quality of the RGB pool isn't quite there yet for people to accept something like that without LDs

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Like Fuqiu and Holden were great but Nahor is super high investment and niche and Hoyan died with the meta change

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Everyone is currently playing the same 8 units so the last thing we need is everyone having all 8 units LOL

graceful juniper
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Its me

wide aurora
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A triple custom banner wouldn't even make sense right now tbw cause we ain't got enough lattices to max 3 units

graceful cradle
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I just got Rahu and Lilith during the wishbinder event lol

wide aurora
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A single custom banner would make more sense

graceful cradle
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Yup lmao in the future though it'll go hard

graceful juniper
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I can settle with regular rotating unit

graceful cradle
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That's what they should do 1 old 1 new banner if they do double banners

wide aurora
graceful cradle
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I'd love to pull more of my bruiser dupes instead of whatever the next cleave slop is

graceful juniper
wide aurora
graceful cradle
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That said can we get a new cleanser that isn't a healer

wide aurora
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In E7 we got triple custom banners which are fire

graceful cradle
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Them restricting that basically to Doki is also a large part of what's making this meta so toxic

wide aurora
graceful juniper
graceful juniper
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Ngl doki is good but we need more

graceful cradle
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That's actually exactly what I said in Talentless discord last night lmao

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Give us Handguy

wide aurora
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Yeah lol just collab with E7

graceful cradle
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Like rn Healers have too much power but they can't nerf them cuz control will actually just steamroll turn 2 if they do

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Best thing to do is adjust the frenzy and give more utility cleansers

wide aurora
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They will probably do that in a few months

graceful juniper
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I wonder if we can survive after few month....CN launch probably decide that

graceful cradle
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Like it's absurd that sometimes I can't even cleanse the actual CC off my units cuz of the debuff soup a single Obol/Hein gives me

simple flame
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well...for the western players who love the game, it will be fine.

graceful cradle
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I wish the debuffs were static in how they applied but I know it's also cuz of the multi hit thing

simple flame
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asian players will supplement the matchmaking modes.

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rta will get a lot harder than now

wide aurora
graceful juniper
simple flame
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AI arena will be alright.

graceful cradle
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Yeah CN RTA players tend to be super sweaty

simple flame
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im losing to....f2p player turn 2 teams now

graceful juniper
graceful cradle
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And GW will be a lot more competitive but I worry about Globals ability to recruit

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Viper S1

simple flame
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i need to really start sweating

graceful cradle
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Uhhh

wide aurora
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Think there is an R unit that can aoe silence

graceful juniper
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Oh viper

wide aurora
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Can't remember his name

simple flame
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ashu

graceful cradle
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Viper on Lion goes hard too

wide aurora
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Yeahh him

simple flame
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i really need to start fixing my account sigh

graceful cradle
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Yeah i still haven't used my selector

simple flame
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turn 2 teams beating me up 🙁

graceful cradle
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Tsuk and Vero are still two of the 3 RGBs I'm missing

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Gotta wait til I see the new units

simple flame
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im missing mia! =/

graceful cradle
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I'm missing Tsuk Vero Beyontin

wide aurora
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Grab Veronica imo

graceful cradle
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I kinda want Tsuki ngl

wide aurora
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She don't need lattices as bad as tsuki

graceful cradle
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I want to be able to kinda start working towards a standard playstyle for my account when it inevitably is a thing here

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Tsukiyo Mi will probably be a lot better in that regard

wide aurora
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Yeah when it becomes a thing zf_hahaha

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Right now we stuck on the bruiser meta

graceful cradle
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I mean a few more releases like Liliam and it won't be too far off LOL

wide aurora
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Rev nerf was deserved but them buffing Rahu and Holden after the rev nerf was crazy

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Did they buff Tiamat too?

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Can't remember

graceful cradle
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Honestly its the Liliam buff that's the issue

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And nah they haven't it was Mizuki

wide aurora
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Yeah that too that came out of nowhere

wide aurora
graceful cradle
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Liliam buff is what's allowing this double healer meta to thrive

wide aurora
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Liliam is disgusting now I ban her almost always if im facing her

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I aint dealing with her

graceful juniper
wide aurora
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Cause she already cracked

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Anyways all I want is them fixing the economy and nerfing all inferno stages

graceful juniper
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Niconana and doki atleast fine....but other can get some touch

wide aurora
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Yeah for me niconana, Sharon and doki are easy

graceful cradle
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I have a fan ig. Sheesh this community has so many parasocial weirdos

ripe kraken
graceful cradle
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I don't actually care about if games evenly add male chars like female chars but the zero male char games always give me red flags

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Those usually tend to be super p2w which then has a much smaller pool to pvp in and terrible powercreep

ripe kraken
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Like nikke mc is male only

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It's more of a harem type

graceful cradle
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I've only seen females and the male MC

ripe kraken
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Ye

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It's harem

graceful cradle
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Yeah idk man

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Doesn't seem very long term to me lmao not in a game that wants to do RTA

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I'd sooner swipe in Re:Memento

twilit vault
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what a joke of an announcement

ripe kraken
ripe kraken
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Rta rewards are shit

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In star saviour

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It doesn't create fomo to rta just like e7

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Rta is optional entirely

graceful cradle
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I mean W7 only has the skin

gilded mason
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Ye i dont like it when games are like full female

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I'll just wait for 7K

graceful cradle
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You technically get worst rewards for climbing lol unless ofc you got the Emp+ border and frames but I do it cuz I love it

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7k will be p2w

gilded mason
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Oh i know

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Finally got things to buy

twilit vault
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does Etheria even have comeback rewards

graceful cradle
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But at least it looks like a better E7/SW competitor

gilded mason
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How refreshing

graceful cradle
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I'm waiting for it too

gilded mason
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Its not really e7 competitor

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Its like

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Afk arena basically

graceful cradle
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Nah they have RTA

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I saw the showcasing for it

twilit vault
gilded mason
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You cant really control your units

graceful cradle
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You're talking Rebirth right

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Ahh well shit

gilded mason
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The targeting is random

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Yeah

graceful cradle
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It's all ruined

gilded mason
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Thats why i dont take rta in 7k seriously zf_hahaha

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Just p2w get power and slap noobs

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Feelsgood

graceful cradle
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Hopefully ER feels better to play by then I'll give it time but not a crazy amount

ripe kraken
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Empty shallow shell void where u simulate

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For a year

twilit vault
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i think it's actually funny that nobody knows if there are comeback rewards because everyone who quits the game doesn't come back lol

ripe kraken
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And each month get tired for 2 days with double drops

gilded mason
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I dont expect anything from them

twilit vault
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You mean we should give returning players rewards to entice them to come back??

vague violet
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Gotta say the delete felt good this morning. Like why was I even playing this garbage for so long?

twilit vault
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i hope you find a more enjoyable game in the future

vague violet
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Tyty i’m still gonna lurk till next month‘s revenue figures drop though just for the lols

half lodge
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Have you dropped any of you a game you were playing for a long time due to missmangement Burnout?

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Any examples

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And i mean for a long time not like 3/4 months and i AM asking Anyone i guess just want to share opinions/feelings

graceful cradle
half lodge
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I have dropped league at the start of the year and i was playing since beta of the game

graceful cradle
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Dropped it cuz they kept getting more and more greedy with the p2w

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That was SEA server though i heard GL was less egregious

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Oh i guess outside of gachas there's also league and mmos

half lodge
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Yeah i was asking overall but gachas are fine

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I have dropped all hoyoverse games last year

graceful cradle
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I never understood the blind loyalty for FGO and Hoyo games

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why do people defend companies that only see you as dollar signs

half lodge
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I have dropped the games because i know the problems that hurt mebthe most wont ever get adresses

graceful cradle
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like both are unbelievably stingy

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and they don't have to change cuz people are professional shit eaters

half lodge
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The games are focusing on everybody are targeted towards mainstream which means they dont target anybody

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They just look nice and that's it

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And fate is the most overrated gacha i played IT doesnt hold to any gacha standard today

graceful cradle
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nope but it still makes absurd levels of money

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like i think the greatest form of irony was the people who came from HSR but never played SW/E7 and experienced the pvp and wanted changes to make ER more like the game they left cuz they were "tired of it" dv_frogKekOwO

half lodge
graceful cradle
half lodge
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overall i am midly satissfied with epic seven but i am really tired but the lack of improvemnts of the game compared to todays standard of the game

half lodge