#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
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In fact the meta was so bad in E7 that a lot of HoF legend players opted to not even try for top 3
they did nerf inferno, but not rengo specifically
First of all
Not enough
When is anything even coming besides new units

this happens every meta because it doesn't favor a specific style at the top, but this is actually so bad that rta itself is constricting heavily
We need Decent Aurora Nerfs, Sharon Nerfs, Rengo Nerfs, and Also Preferably Terror/Hoyan/Doki Nerfs
You can only auto clear NORMAL ember
like 11 people total in mythic this season and top 60 being diamond is insane
people just do not want to play
No like even the cleave aggro players that usually HoF didn't want to play last season. E7s meta was actually the worst it's ever been until this balance patch
Isn't Hoyan kinda solved with like, Coochie and Obol
by then, they will introduce Abyss
and its very clear
yea i know
Hoyan is Technically solved thats Why I threw it in the Nice but not Make or Break
then another thread will appear
Abyss difficulty megathread
i actually do believe we will get an abyss difficulty at some point and people will be very unhappy about it
Icic
That's also not uncommon early into a pvp season in these kinds of games but I guess since ER only has 2 month seasons now that's a little weird for deciding when to push
we aren't even early anymore, its been 3 weeks
Its a Lack of people wanting to play
The Meta Is shit.
3 weeks and basically no one is playing because the meta is miserable to play
The Game is Shit(Balance wise)
They need to work on their wording lmao. Reading that they are giving us someone to specifically crush Rengo is one of the weirdest lines i ever read in a patch note. Like they are doing us a favor 
sure you can make the argument that 'just deal with it' but when its so bad no one is even motivated to try and play, even if they do play the game, its fucked
The Rev Nerf being needed Was a Symptom of these chuckle fucks not nerfing Rengo and Aurora.
Also they didn't give a fck about events at all in announcement
esp here i am willing to bet there is a solid section of people who quit because rta sucks as a direct reason
See they think bb is the problem but that's still not going to address how strong healing is in bruiser mirrors
advertise as a pvp game, get through the pain of pve to hit pvp and realize the shit is awful, why would you keep playing
They just need to make frenzy affect healing at a better scale before it zeroes out
Damn nuparu going to the other side
What days have come
I didn't want this at all lol
Doubt it, the interest in RTA was already so low last season
Everyone is being hyperbolic acting like it's some massive drop on activity from last season to this season. It was a small subset of people getting even smaller
From small to smaller
This shit's so funny
This is true though
last season had approximately 10x the people in mythic as this season lol
Is plat Stull enough for top 300
And lack of 3rd bpp below diamond so bruiser accts that aren't established just lose their 1 bruiser and instalose
idk this meta is completely indefensible and it being so bad is worthy of a hotfix change to actually fix the problems
Guys, in case you didn’t know from the massive Liliam buff… PULL HER NOW NOW NOW BUY BUY BUY
drop fomo on current banner and fomo on future banner at the same time
Absolutely disgusting
They made a solution for rengo, then suggests using liliam 
because if people have no reason to slog through the pve shitshow, then what is anyone playing for
its a pvp game after all...
I think gear swapping turned a lot of ppl off from rta in season 0. And now its a snoozefest so it will be a bit hard to reignite anything
Plat is like top 100
They shouldve just left that line out
No fucking way
That doesn't mean overall was a lot more people playing last season than this season. I mean we've heard multiple times how top 100 had like 30 mins of waiting on queues at times re-queueing constantly

It was always a lack of players issue
To laugh about this shit
Aint no way
The only time you should ever word it like that is if they give us the unit for free 

call vampy back too
MY HERMANO
we all laughing
lower mythic didnt have too bad queue times, it was the very peak of the ladder where it was bad because they had such a high point adv on everyone else
They wanna nerf bb that's not going to fix this lmao and we both know it
it would be a step forward which is important enough
I don't think there's a louder tell that Liliam didn't sell
Instead of nerfing they're just gonna introduce new units to counter it
also healing is only as powerful as you can be alive to be healed
That's my take on this
Ill dig an even deeper grave so i cant crawl back for the next “big announcement” where theyll announce that theres more to come and just to wait 
thats why people hated revelation if they had no swiftrush runes - they cant sustain if they're dead
Make #inferno great again
Announcement saying pull lilliam is funny af
Looking forward to it ❤️
For example, try them out with Liliam!
but now you can sustain through basically anything until super late in the match because you are at zero risk of being bursted down even with optimal conditions from the opponent
nvm diamond is top 100
People hated revelation because it was easier to farm juiced rev sets vs the bb sets on LH
This channel being dead and boring lately.
This announcement is perfect
with 6 days left too
insane pressure for anybody that just started
no ppl did not care about that as much as they cared about being sent off the planet if they lost the race
i can 100% guarantee that
But that's all mostly been addressed by anyone who's still playing but in bruiser mirrors a lot of stuff is already off of bb since you don't need it for the mirrors
but now we're at the opposite - optimal setups feel like they dont actually reward anything if you just cant be killed
they are so smart
last min milking
then they milk again next banner
2 bird 1 stone ahhh solution
Guys I can't wait for them to pay the cc so much
That they will hype this announcement to the moon
We going to nasa with this @mental mural
lemme buy the stock first
CZN release cannot come sooner
First thing I did was CTRL+F and typed reconfig
Btw madnessloid died
Who?
Idk xyro will allow him tho
This big beautiful announcement was so great we've found a way to the moon 
Whatd bro do 
HELP IS ON THE WAY BTCHES
Btw I beta tested for star saviour
The help
STILL STRUGGLING TO CLEAR THAT STAGE HYPERLINKERS??????
Did you read the last line? 
My pve was only 15 mins there
“Addressing it directly”
-JUST GIVE US MONEY U BROKEES SO U CAN CLEAR THE CONTENT
How and when?
And spent more time on rta
Last cbt
The release of Anima like these is part of a wider effort to bring more strategic counters and tools into the roster, both for PvE and PvP.
ud think wouldnt u
I am in the discord server as well
Whats Star Saviour?
Yo that's on my wishlist, planning to play it
I can send u official discord link
Bet
it's so cool when every good clear of a boss has one required character.
2*, liliam
tru
"Just pull this unit now, hyperlinkers! If you do, you, too, can now play the fucking game!"
Meeeh im just gonna wait for CZN,
Its the only gacha thats been interesting to me lately
Lmfao that was quick
Nah you see Rengo is actually easy if you're a 400lb gigachad
It's your fault if you weren't born with 3 different diagnoses that make you totally incompatible with sane people and parents who didn't care about you
Instead of nerf rengo they bring new unit 
I am waiting for content creators
To take us to the moon
I already packed everything up
i wanna see the sponsored ccs spin this
Yall theyre working 24/7 trust, its not ai
Yo stab can I dm ya a brief explanation of czn mechanics
thats nice
Sure im in for it! I heard its kinda roguelike
Yeah I worked on these kind of card turn based projects in past
I am a small indie dev
I can dm ya the server
it look like that one card game slay the spire, the mechanic at least
sums this up so well
sure
yeah
The only game i played a little bit with similar mechanics was R1999 but i hated the designs so
Not the mechanics but yeah the artstyle wasnt for me
The REAL E7 killer
You seen the fuq u hands as well? 
I havent 👀 i quit before her release, got a pic?
also asshu has 2 different splash arts
and nell's suspicious bandaid
obol also has Acheron and his name spelled wrong lol
tho the asshu one is more like they didnt bother checking lel
Ayo
They need to answer some questions
I feel like most of us are dissapointed coz it's just words and no actual detailed changes
If the patch will be announced on tuesday
And will be live after a couple days
Then we're just waiting while being frustrated with the game everyday
Ngl the announcement looks promising
parts of the announcement seem really good
I agree, the module crafting and other skipping parts of PVE are good
a bigger part of it reads as corporatespeak 'we hear you!'
They just had to nerf rengo
Im more and more convinced we're just test for cn
They're calling cn release "global"
Just reduce the HP% like 10-15% and our runs would be that much faster
And have global celebration
We literally are they even global release event coming soon
is this ur last form(pf)
We did not get any global celebration event lol
I'm at war in General I guess 
we're beta
I understand it like that we get rengo nerf + a new char for rengo but maybe its just me
And now they're coming out with gear crafting (which idk why they didnt have at the start)
Which is just "wrapping up development"
Does that mean they didnt even think about it until players complained lol
that's the problem, don't be happy we're getting it. complain we didnt get it sooner
you cant be pleased
we get character that make rengo easier
also try it with liliam
Aight im changing my name
A new char is fine to help with pve, that's the norm for gachas. But atleast make it SR so everyone can build them
Most game do this implementing this later so people play the game and spend money for modules etc and than like some time later gear crafting is coming where some people sold potentially good modules etc
Their gear system is much more rng and worse to farm than others
Theres like 7 sets crammed into 1 boss
Plus theres 2 matrix mods and 2 substat mods
Like hello
Yeah, there's too much layers of RNG
Yeah module farming is trash
I get the flat stat on the right side, it exists with these type of games
But adding more is just ehhh
We've reach perfection
Issue is the number of goddamn sets
Oh im neither happy nor sad i've already mentally checked out
i've been building some characters on 12 bb 8 swift 6 smite. found a use for some 2 matrix that isnt broken sets
Im just here for fun
i will be honest, you dont seem to be having fun XD
I love drama
damn i knew i shouldnt talk in the discord
Right now im just doing dailies
I'm not even max refreshing anymore
I dont feel like doing cage rumble and all that shit
Same
I just spend the first 60 gems
I used to
Yeah, I used to max refresh on season 0 coz I wanna climb RTA
now im just spending daily stam in shadowflame for bulwark bb smite jackals
and saving for banners
feels good
Then i gave up max refreshing
I also stopped chasing red passive shells
If I get gold with right stats
Casino restart needs some pity systems...like shell crafting system
hell even fury onslaught
It's fine for me
Soon 
that would be cool
So the big announcement is done
how many you guys have?
6 rows and a half
fully built? insane
yes
I have 40 
30
I've never counted. I should
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVXXW7I-Naw 13:16 "And we are hoping these upcoming changes can help accelerate this at a healthy level...... wait what changes?"
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I only have 28 but most have red passives
the rest after that quote is perfect it's like, asking for feedback but I've seen some amazingly detailed and level headed feedback. yeah half of #ask-staff is minors saying insane shit. pretty easy to ignore that. they don't really need anymore feedback to make changes. there are diverse solutions offered en masse
They keep giving me red speed where I don't want it
like my Fuqiu supernova
and most of the announcement is "we're listening! gives us the feedback! c'mon we're waiting!"
like cool that they see what people are complaining about but in most cases solutions aren't offered it's just an empty acknowledgement that we don't like xyz rn
it'd be really surprising if they didn't see what we don't like. it's hammered every single day on discord/youtube/reddit
and then one of the few real concrete updates is... two units designed to be one-dimensional rengo defeaters?
Dont forgrt you need lattice them up 
17:00 "Specifically designed to help crush rengo. Ah make the problem sell the solution. ...... for example, try them out with Lili- HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA"
and then the 2D artwork is AI slop. like if you're gonna use AI use a decent one at least. some crazy models out there
oh and this. probably the worst part of the announcement. let's FOMO the current banner...
Be sure to check out artiar guide to clear rengo inferno
I get it, it's a gacha
but like
pretend. a little bit. roleplay that you aren't trying so hard to pry my wallet open
Ngl i miss those liliam word....its fkin icing on the cake 
take me to dinner and ask me about my hobbies
then when I believe you, you can take my credit card to bed and I'll watch from the corner

this is 100% trying to sell a solution to a problem they let manifest
its rather disgusting
I do still have cope hope but this announcement was very milquetoast and tone deaf.
would be way more interesting to just adjust the boss to allow for team diversity
everyone's like 'oh boy rengo is dumb because it basically oneshots without bloodbath and the silence add makes runs extra dicey' and they're like 'ok what if we sell the solution instead of just slightly toning it down'
No money spend no sunk cost fallacy baby wooh
honestly it's not my money that's got me hooked. I just latticed yeli and pulled lily finally. so I want to use Lily lmao
nononono someone said you only need lily not bloodbath
and slap bosses with something besides DoT
either way I want to see if I can just use liliam and yeli to speed clear it
they have until I get bored of lily to actually give us these mystery changes. it's not like it's just this game, I've tried other mobile games and they all suck tbh
if there was an actual good mobile game I'd just dip
but its okay we'll sell you a solution for it...
they need to be a little more aggressive with the bs tedious stuff than they're hinting here tho
the unskippable cutscenes every day is insane.
I haven't done phantom in weeks
keep forgetting to do union boss because I dread it
I have never done infinity train once
doing stuff I didn't even want to do just to do Xiada's event is annoying too
i just want to spam shells atm
but I have to take a detour
same with candy machine. it just feels clunky
Inf Train is tough because you have to select things but Phantom is just an alt tab away for 5 minutes no?
i don't play the game on my PC
Ah it's super convenient
eh I have sometimes and it was cool at first
18:08 "How about we just nurf rengo hp by like 10% damage by 10% and then those existing slower teams can beat them?"
Oh no
but WoW patch dropped
@tiny sage
Jack is coming for him
Your voice matter to etheria restart
Common sense?
Gtfo with that nonsense
Next seanb video he is falling out the window
my reaction to this is similar to seanb's lol
Ig jack is coming for ya aswell
JUST NERF RENGO MAN
i'll just resummon madnessloid

no we're gonna give you a solution with a banner and if you missed the banner gfy
Ok, how do you counter amber tiamat when your cleaving or CCing? She just freeze and take a turn at full HP.
they're so scared of nerfing rengo, its like asking for their butt virginity
21:06 "But what if, let's say new players join the game after this banner ends. ... so like.... FuQiu?????"
seanb gets it
Nobody should be scared of that 
21:29 "Your voice matters to Etheria Restart!" HE SAID THE THING
Idc abt rengo tbh i safe all my gems for gear crafting and than shred rengo to death with andrew
I'm telling you Blue Andrew is a crouching tiger
he asss i bet on him in champion and he didnt win
doesnt live up to the hype
That's because they didn't do the 10k def build

he is big
this is exactly what I said and it got no response...
like sure, I could pull them myself - but if in a month (or 3, or 6, etc) I rope my friends into trying the game again because it's better on some fronts - what will they do if they get to the great wall of rengo and need to counter cleave (or build codex cc units) lol
because that was the response
yeah, that's really what it feels like
They will get good or quit, because Rengo is actually easy
Don't you know!
rengo is simple sure if you're willing to spend 7-8m a run and farm a ton of aurora first, but is it the expectation that people will spend over an hour per 10x while also having pretty mediocre drop rates lmao
that or 'just pull the correct units', had friends quit over that too - release infernos being so overtuned that it felt like it was insurmountable without Lily definitely caused a few to just drop the game
It's very interesting seeing subsets of people claim that it's fine
but it is /s
Its fine...just roll lily
Liliam and new unit 
if my f2p team which consist of yeli sania lily and viper can clear it you can too, since im f2p /s
For me the new characters as bandaid for rengo would be hmm acxwptavle but you cant build them anyway
So IT is isn't even selling a solution because you literally cannot build them
I have a solution
299 dollar 12 lattice pack!
"Supreme Lattice Bundle"
60 buck saved
30000% value!!!
I see big numbers
if they maybe released them in July lol it'd be like w/e
but they conveniently chose after buffing liliam and the spending event

"Why you guys never satisfied with anything"
Give you rengo crusher you complaining?!
But pulls are easy to get!!
Thats one of the best thing about this game
!!!
After a pull event no less
Bruh, I'm about to be done with the game. I've tried to not lose interest in this game, but it's really giving a hard time.
The cynical cash-grabbiness is revolting at this point. They assume their player base are complete chuds
Maybe they’re right
This announcement just was not it.
Swing and a miss and the bat hit them in the face
I will just say its easy to recover your pull...it just if their solution are on banner,people who miss it gonna get fcked like literally
Plus the pool is horribly bloated and diluted over time so it does nothing for newcomers.
Their “solution” is obviously to pack these needed heroes into massive pull banners like the did the test case with
Cause problem > sell solution
Yea if they like this kind of solution with banner,atleast give a courtesy to have 1 permanent banner where player can choose which unit to pick up because man you will miss 1 of those unit
If their solution to unnecessarily hard PvE content is to sell units that make it trivial I'll just move on. The betas were so much more promising than the actual game.
This is clearly their answer as it’s been literal months for them to strategize a solution
I’m done tbh. Deleting and done.
Yeah, I'm considering leaving aswell. It was fun while it lasted tho.
Too old to play sh!t that has no respect or a convincing illusion of respect for the player
You wre one of the voice of reasons here we dont want to lose you dude
I’m leaving it to the dogs, sorry mate. Gave this sh-t-show 3 months of my time
I've been saying from the start these devs dunno what they're doing
Pretty sure we're just 6th beta
Just think about how they needed people to tell them "skins make money"
Not recolors
We are lol
Etheria 2.0 Reborn to fight
We will be there for greatness
I am very pumped tbh
Is this S or not....i cant tell
I dont.think it is
I'm glad for you 😄
Personally I don't think this will help.
To me it was about a 3/10, nothing important was actually addressed, if you're stuck on rengo then just pull these units bro and obviously they will be selling us reconfig chips and lattice in the shop, leave more feedback now we are listening we promise
No word on reset event either, even though it's posted about like 5 times a day and even the CCs want it.
The module crafting being an event? Making the game even more of a waiting game, wait for x2, wait for module crafting.. like idk.
And why can't the x5 speed be applied across the board, why only in certain modes?
#1405797633108475924 need a bump so dev will try to adding this or thinking the idea of this into the game.
So the announcment was just we hear you, trust us here some solutions to buy
Pretty much.
XD
Didnt they say they werent doing double banners anymore
did they?
I could have swore they did
Well
They also said they wont buff or nerf mid season
So i guess its fine
Yes was in hyper talk but after that or before that they told the CN community they wanted 100animus
I will just say as someone who spend on summon event,i already get back my pull to pity those 2 but oh boi after those banner gone,people gonna complain about rengo again or why they miss the banner or lattice 
Ah
Welp
I'm very certain they did say that
The said they will slowdown
But prob after we hit 100 animus
Double LD banners if I remember correctly
I AM changing my overall attitide to growth mindset
it is not double banner, it is a single banner with double units 🙂
finally they accepted rengo is overtuned so instead of fixing, they are releasing units to clear it easier
He was a light in the darkness on this server
U know i AM actually really comurious about the chinese reaction to a lot of system
Because from other gachas they can be even more loud than us
I AM playing casually and feel okay
Don't worry once Chinese come
They won't Dodge
Much
idk they'll prolly be disappointed that there isn't much to whale on and the biggest thing is
u can't rlly buy convenience
but hey they'll get hella pulls
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here is their reaction
they ask questions and Jack still dodges to answer them 🙂
First question : why is PVE so hard
Answer: how people should handle PVE instead of a direct answer ^^;
"It's a marathon not a sprint"
You help push my agenda for selector banner #1405797633108475924
Atleast give us little mercy to get some unit after we get wreck by rng
well they should start selling premate teams
or release banners for "Inferno Rengo Banner" and pull all the team units there for people to summon
and then put a lattice pack on the shop for 500usd
honestly fuck it if you pull 5 SSRs at once you should get a lattice tree that spits perfect lattices at you
this solves nothing but would be funny
but after watching that CN Q/A, I finally realized Jack's dream
he wants people to play/farm for a year or more to be actually able to play the game
he doesnt want players to farm inferno immediately or do endgame content
while he doesnt understand that nobody currently playing the game plays the 12 stages of any threshold dungeons
if they were actually doing their research, they would have realized that every gacha game is trying to make their farming stages less, like E7 dropping from 12 or more stages into 3
while we have 14 stages in Etheria where nobody touches the first 12 🤡
Were they ever like 12 farming stages ?
What for
You mean more difficulty options
yes, useless extra stages you have to do once to move on to the next step
It's redundant for sure
They should just nerf Rengo but creating a problem and selling the solution is a tale as old as time
Bcs this guy i AM playing e7
it is called Pride
Which is whatever they do it in E7 I didn't expect differently here since the devs seem to want to relive all of E7s greatest flops too
dw they got their army of fans to defend this for them too
just wait till they release asia servers
I mean i think a lot of you are still just crying
But if you didnt see them selling the rengo solution coming you were just too optimistic
then you have neveer been in this channel before
I'll take better communication over half the shit people are asking for
unfortunately it's just a sign that at this point the ship of reason has sailed
what better communication bro? I can tell you for 100% all those "dev notes" are stuff C typed after talking to Jack a few times
they just added some pictures
and released it
idk I'm having some fun but shit like this is really stupid and not a particularly inspiring thing to see
you can see C's fingerprints all over the text
Oh for sure but announcing future changes and acknowledgement they messed up is better than complete radio silence all the time
If you cant even see that idk what to tell you
But coming from E7 where shit is on fire for a year
And still nothing
This is far better
future changes is a stretch, we'll see how much they actually change and if it's meaningful
one thing I've learned dealing with corporations is don't trust anything they say they'll do until they actually do it
I just wish they would stop Releasing 9/10 bangers and then Shooting themselves in the foot.
True but now they actually have semi committed so we have justification for being angry if they don't deliver
Agreed
Every single patch is like a small w marred by big ass Ls
Like the Liliam buffs were a terrible idea and now here we are
Idk why they seem to want to keep farming stages tedious it's still a huge mistake imo but at this point I'd just like it if they increased Lattice income so I can put Lattice into the units that reduce the BS ig
they do not want to keep farming stages tedious, they simply not want you to farm inferno stages
they even say that releasing Inferno was a mistake on release
you can read the Chinese Q/A
or watch
I wanna Stream this Game and Not Complain the whole time about how yall Refuse to improve the game and that it is 50x worse then beta.
True but its too late now
We Already knew that since the talk with Jena/SeanB/Volkin
Yup things were fine in beta but it's okay
they also said the anima pool will be more than 100 soon
where they cut out 2 hours of Inferno Complaints.
that is why they are releasing double units
When it's their domestic audience crying about Inferno they'll nerf
So at this point its just a waiting game
What Audience

There CN Audience is smaller then global
A lot of CN players won't even play until they have their own dedicated server
It's a pride thing
Thats why they have to Add in the New Daily Packs.
well its fine, if they dont listen to our feedback lets hope the CN audience will make them listen

They'll also probably make whaling less crappy too since they like to swipe
isnt that the whole reason for the monetization portion that was mentioned, to make more value packs HAHA
the current packs are so ass
Yup there's literally nothing I want to spend on
if they release that in CN they will get shit on so hard
If it doesn't have lattice it gives like no value
yea currently the only thing worth buying is the lattice pack and even that is questionable value, like literally just 1 lattice and thats it loool
Put crystals in packs plz thx
Yup one pack was literally a lattice and 50k silver for $30 cad lol
like xiada event packs are literally better than the weekly packs haha
But it's whatever anything to let me continue skipping trek which takes so much fking time
yea the skipp ember is nice, wish they would do that for rally too
rally is kinda zzz too
I don't mind rally since it's just a series of battles
But Trek is literally impossible for me to do while working
the running around stages kills my motivation everytime i do it
So i then have to take hours on my days off/time after work to do that shit. I just clear normal and a bit of hard and chill it's too time consuming when some of the fights are like 30-40mins of manually playing
Some of the screenshots for ember trek clear time have been mental
Honestly I rather just throw money at the game then the time it takes for that 1 lattice LOL
This 100%
Like no thanks. Miss me with that bs
some fights are legit tedious
Certain things in the game just aren't fun. And I learned my lesson from E7 I won't force myself to do shit I find awful otherwise I'll burnout. So I usually just do Hard Trek until it starts to be too difficult to auto then call it a day
he was more like poop on the street
but still
yeah paying 120usd and waiting 1 month to level up a single skill of a unit is worth
Like I think Anisync being hard is great and the rewards for it are good. But there's no reason for the farming stuff to be that tedious
but at least they noticed weekly packs are not selling a lot so they will add more packs
One month should be around enough lattice to fully max a char iirc
Its a shitpost Doom thread
I'm talking about the lattice pack that you can buy once per week
f2p? npe
Classic
This is the final boss thread
YeH the other threads have legit idiots in them
Maybe the Reason they Won't nerf Inferno is so this Thread Stays Active....

Oo yeah they are tedious
well yea its definitely not worth thats why they are revamping the shop
But yeah the f2p lattice income should be about enough to do 1.3 chars a month
Paid should be around like 1.6 in terms of lattice
Like the overall lattice per month needs to be about 4-6 higher
its new banner every 3 weeks. 2 RGB - 1 LD cycle
Idek anymore they said no more double banners
But those don't look lile there's an SR there
i havent...seen this news yet
I wouldnt be surprised if they release a Lattice Banner next, it was a meme on twitch chat but wouldnt be surprised at all
It is 3 week cycles yea RGB -> LD
latticce banner? wtf loool
the new RGB is double banner though
it is double unit banner, C already confirmed it
people shouldnt pull on it
one is a buffer/shielder and the other is a dps
Yeah that's annoying like they said with Fuqiu and Nahor they wouldn't do anymore doubles
Alas here we are
they didnt say that
Where did they say that?
as I said, Jack's goal is to hit 100 units ASAP so expect more doubles
They said after game reaches 100 units u won't get double banners
Ugh yall really gonna make me dig through their posts
they said tehy dropping frequency.
We are at 64 now will be 66 soon
i hope they drop double RGB banner soon
The ysaid no LD back to back
This
they didnt though
well let me go fact check
they did say it specifically
in the world of internet is easy to check brb i will go find out
That's totally me ! 
i'm quit the game before pull event (along with my friend)
- the reason i quit is i can't clear Inferno.. and progress more in the game
i'm trying build a character to max (5/5/5) but.. cleary i can't clear it with just character i have..
i don't have Lily , DSania , Kloss , Yeli and i don't think my Gacha luck would help me either.. so.. yeah.. i'm done 
(I stick around.. hope that Dev will do something about it and then i'll re-join the game
)
bye ❤️ have a safe journey in another realm
Lol that's from the YouTube video I just screenshotted that
they will just say its a mistake and move on
ye i am here rn
I realized it after the last one
Yeah we're not supposed to be getting anymore double banners
no, they are just not sincere
as I said multiple times since day 1
I dont trust them a single bit
tbf the hyper talks are always fill with grammar error/translation error
this is not the first time
which is not good
I mean I'm fine but it's bullshit for f2p especially after a pull event
but yeah lol
well..knowing how they do events
i am not pulling on the new units lol
they always make community managers say what players want to hear
dont worry the wishbinder event will come back soon to suck more pulls out of f2p again
that is all
@loud locust if you guys are going to do this you should give people free pulls. It's super scummy
lets look at each issue differently. realistically getting pull resources is NOT this game problem
matter of fact their banner release is on PAR with other gacha
I mean if it was just 1 banner then there would be no reason to complain
Since you should be able to pity even from 0 pulls before it leaves
you have the option to either pull on NEW units , or pull on wishing event for the guaranteed unit at 100 + the RNG pulls you get.
But 2.. sheesh I feel bad for f2p
i cant speak on behalf of f2p since i am not f2p
What I think needs fixing NOW:
- Nerf rengo by 10-15%
- Remove 2 matrix and 2-3 substat gear from inferno
- Perm gear and shell crafting system
- Once shell sub stat reaches a higher tier, it should not drop back down
- Remove the running stages
- Auto battle limit change to 30
- 8x speed
u shouldnt tbh, the other time the f2p defenders were saying its fine if u save pulls LOL
so they shouldnt be complaining
just appreciate we are getting 1 LD banners per rotation 🙂
we need tags if we are f2p or spenders tbh
everyone have very different experiences
even as a spender, i find that i get a lot of pulls with packs + freebies
i spent to get 50% for wish event, and now i am back at 160 pulls (% paid-f2p idk)
The last 4 for sure. I think Rengo needs bigger nerfs than that truthfully to make the RNG less BS. 2 matrix gear in fine with but I agree all mythic gear should be 4 lines like E7
Shell and Gear crafting systems I'd only want after they fix the bs otherwise it's just another resource sink for more shit
no i need the crafting system now
dont need to fix rng or farming if crafting system is elite
As f2p im recover from 3k gem only after wishbinder event into 160 pull total for rgb banner
Pull is not a problem
Too much rng
yea, but how do you feel now that they gonna maybe drop wish event once per month. its going to be wish vs new rgb banner units
Too much time investment
You cannot build the units anyway due to lettuces
Yeah like I can get both the new SSRs but I swiped to ensure I got both Lattice during that wishbinder event
these are the 2 big issues
I will priority gem from my event....im sure i can get the 100/200 mileage if i focus on gem instead of lattice from event
you willing to forfeit lattice income? interesting
Honestly the biggest issue i see f2p running into constantly is they are still gem refreshing
wdym
They really need to be pooling all resources for banners and just accepting they cannot farm as much as people who are swiping
actually thats fair. i am supplementing my pulls from spending , but my refreshing been supplied by the game
modules > having units ngl to you
but lowkey i still dont have modules so...xD
but thats likely my own skill not good enough to find modules correctly
So many people had like zero gems when Liliam came out and like there was nothing to pull for since like week 1 Fuqiu/Nahor so they should've had loke 10k gems
I mean for current experiment yes,because last time event with me focus on lattice,i still able to do 200 summon wishbinder mileage and still able to pity L/D
So im sure it not that much strain,but i just do it for experiment
Btw i never do 1k gem refresh a day
,,Skill"
At most 60...and the worst is 200-300
wya in the game progression
Even i don't refresh every day and I swipe pretty frequently
It's just not sustainable long term lol
Also gems are like the most annoying to whale for
hmmm
i promise you now
i am 98% max refreshing
on some day i get tired and i dont
All inferno on auto,decent timer like 3 minute on rengo but lower everywhere else
Dog always SSS,can do ember trek hard 24/42(if i try hard)
And the other event with doki boss i can reach the 3rd difficulty
but thats like 1-2 days , been here say day 1
There's bo reason to spend on just gems unless you're spending just to spend
And gems aren't in a lot of the packs so you have to spend directly for them
Just makes it super inefficient to swipe on
as a spender i never buy gem packs
They didn’t lie if it’s 1 banner with 2 units featured on it

well except the first 2x bonus packs beyond that i dont buy gems
i am telling you now i have been max refreshing on ingame currency income
like its kind of lowkey insane
I can't even max refresh on that but I did also pull 4x Liliam
damn YOU DID 4x LD GEM PULL?
yeah thats alot bruh
i will never rationalize gem pulling on LD banner
It was about 1.5 on gems rest was packs
when you can luck sac LD units from standard.
wait you say 4x u meant 4multi?
or 4 dupes?
But even before they buffed her I knew her kit was stupid af and very safe for the future
4 multi isnt that bad
And her 2nd imprint is pretty important for high damage builds
Nope 3/5
I pulled her first copy in 20 pulls
lucky
But 2 went to pity
i ...pity
1 was around 50 or so
i think you did more liliam pulls ngl
dont worry next ld will be more insane 
also ngl i got a standard liliam.
Probably after Liliam lmao
this is why i dont believe in maxing out LD dupes
when you can luck sac them from standard
it feels bad LOl
Don't worry guys next LD will be released with abyss and if u pull her abyss mode will be joke
She had a kit eas was worth getting the 10% stats and the crit chance
I don't regret it tbh
i got max hein, mio, doki,messiah from standard.
i am htere with you zaee
xD
well ngl i only pull after teh buff
Plus like I play E7
i got a single copy..welldue to collecting habits xD
Almost all my LDs are SSS
yeah, end game is LD teams anyway
I just farm coins at this point
i aint putting anymore lattices into RGB
That's diabolical
Don't bring that evil here lol
"It's not 50/50 if there's 2 units in the banner"
Ahahahhaah
But in all seriousness I do love E7s custom group banners
In the future I'd like ER to do that but not rn cuz you know people's heads will explode
Yeah in the future it'd be awesome
the public is asking for it rn literally xD
I even want the same coin shop system it was honestly ingenious
they want "new unit banner" , custom banner, standards
thats the cycle they want right now lol
Who's they?
The problem with that in ER rn is people will demand LDs in it
The overall quality of the RGB pool isn't quite there yet for people to accept something like that without LDs
Like Fuqiu and Holden were great but Nahor is super high investment and niche and Hoyan died with the meta change
Everyone is currently playing the same 8 units so the last thing we need is everyone having all 8 units LOL
Its me
A triple custom banner wouldn't even make sense right now tbw cause we ain't got enough lattices to max 3 units
I just got Rahu and Lilith during the wishbinder event lol
A single custom banner would make more sense
Yup lmao in the future though it'll go hard
I can settle with regular rotating unit
100%
That's what they should do 1 old 1 new banner if they do double banners
That too for at least 2 or 3 months
I'd love to pull more of my bruiser dupes instead of whatever the next cleave slop is
Yeah like og Hsr lol
Not triple....if you read my post #1405797633108475924 ...im only asking banner that let you get 1 ssr/month
Was talking about what Zaee was saying
That said can we get a new cleanser that isn't a healer
In E7 we got triple custom banners which are fire
Them restricting that basically to Doki is also a large part of what's making this meta so toxic
Yeah someone like ML kawerik but rgb
And not doki? 
Yeah
Ngl doki is good but we need more
That's actually exactly what I said in Talentless discord last night lmao
Give us Handguy
Like rn Healers have too much power but they can't nerf them cuz control will actually just steamroll turn 2 if they do
Best thing to do is adjust the frenzy and give more utility cleansers
They will probably do that in a few months
I wonder if we can survive after few month....CN launch probably decide that
Like it's absurd that sometimes I can't even cleanse the actual CC off my units cuz of the debuff soup a single Obol/Hein gives me
well...for the western players who love the game, it will be fine.
I wish the debuffs were static in how they applied but I know it's also cuz of the multi hit thing
asian players will supplement the matchmaking modes.
rta will get a lot harder than now
Yeah with the release of Cn we will see the changes they implement
Talking about cc....why the only silence unit is tsukiyomi? We need more of those too imo
AI arena will be alright.
Yeah CN RTA players tend to be super sweaty
She is not the only one
im losing to....f2p player turn 2 teams now
wait Who else?
And GW will be a lot more competitive but I worry about Globals ability to recruit
Viper S1
i need to really start sweating
Uhhh
Think there is an R unit that can aoe silence
Oh viper
Can't remember his name
ashu
Viper on Lion goes hard too
Yeahh him
i really need to start fixing my account sigh
Yeah i still haven't used my selector
turn 2 teams beating me up 🙁
Tsuk and Vero are still two of the 3 RGBs I'm missing
Gotta wait til I see the new units
im missing mia! =/
I'm missing Tsuk Vero Beyontin
Grab Veronica imo
I kinda want Tsuki ngl
She don't need lattices as bad as tsuki
I want to be able to kinda start working towards a standard playstyle for my account when it inevitably is a thing here
Tsukiyo Mi will probably be a lot better in that regard
I mean a few more releases like Liliam and it won't be too far off LOL
Hopefully
Rev nerf was deserved but them buffing Rahu and Holden after the rev nerf was crazy
Did they buff Tiamat too?
Can't remember
Honestly its the Liliam buff that's the issue
And nah they haven't it was Mizuki
Yeah that too that came out of nowhere
Mizuki buff was a W
Liliam buff is what's allowing this double healer meta to thrive
Liliam is disgusting now I ban her almost always if im facing her
I aint dealing with her
Not tiamat
Yeah thankgod lol
Cause she already cracked
Anyways all I want is them fixing the economy and nerfing all inferno stages
Niconana and doki atleast fine....but other can get some touch
Yeah for me niconana, Sharon and doki are easy
I have a fan ig. Sheesh this community has so many parasocial weirdos
U will check star saviour ?
Nah looks like waifu only gooner bait
I don't actually care about if games evenly add male chars like female chars but the zero male char games always give me red flags
Those usually tend to be super p2w which then has a much smaller pool to pvp in and terrible powercreep
It has though
Like nikke mc is male only
It's more of a harem type
I've only seen females and the male MC
Yeah idk man
Doesn't seem very long term to me lmao not in a game that wants to do RTA
I'd sooner swipe in Re:Memento
I see fair
No
Rta rewards are shit
In star saviour
It doesn't create fomo to rta just like e7
Rta is optional entirely
I mean W7 only has the skin
You technically get worst rewards for climbing lol unless ofc you got the Emp+ border and frames but I do it cuz I love it
7k will be p2w
does Etheria even have comeback rewards
But at least it looks like a better E7/SW competitor
How refreshing
I'm waiting for it too
cause they're saying "come back for tha epic Asia region launch" but wtf are they coming back to exactly
You cant really control your units
It's all ruined
Thats why i dont take rta in 7k seriously 
Just p2w get power and slap noobs
Feelsgood

Hopefully ER feels better to play by then I'll give it time but not a crazy amount
Nothingness
Empty shallow shell void where u simulate
For a year
i think it's actually funny that nobody knows if there are comeback rewards because everyone who quits the game doesn't come back lol
And each month get tired for 2 days with double drops
Bruh they dont even have proper skins
I dont expect anything from them

yeah i wouldn't be surprised if comeback rewards was another thing they didn't think of, like with the skins
You mean we should give returning players rewards to entice them to come back??
Coming back to eat sh!t
Gotta say the delete felt good this morning. Like why was I even playing this garbage for so long?
common feeling when you get over the sunk cost hump
i hope you find a more enjoyable game in the future

Tyty i’m still gonna lurk till next month‘s revenue figures drop though just for the lols
Have you dropped any of you a game you were playing for a long time due to missmangement Burnout?
Any examples
And i mean for a long time not like 3/4 months and i AM asking Anyone i guess just want to share opinions/feelings
i dropped like 3k on CounterSide
I have dropped league at the start of the year and i was playing since beta of the game
Dropped it cuz they kept getting more and more greedy with the p2w
That was SEA server though i heard GL was less egregious
Oh i guess outside of gachas there's also league and mmos
Yeah i was asking overall but gachas are fine
I have dropped all hoyoverse games last year
I never understood the blind loyalty for FGO and Hoyo games
why do people defend companies that only see you as dollar signs
I have dropped the games because i know the problems that hurt mebthe most wont ever get adresses
like both are unbelievably stingy
and they don't have to change cuz people are professional shit eaters
The games are focusing on everybody are targeted towards mainstream which means they dont target anybody
They just look nice and that's it
And fate is the most overrated gacha i played IT doesnt hold to any gacha standard today
nope but it still makes absurd levels of money
like i think the greatest form of irony was the people who came from HSR but never played SW/E7 and experienced the pvp and wanted changes to make ER more like the game they left cuz they were "tired of it" 
i have never played e7 and sw i mean i am playing e7 now bcs of you
tonight is about to show you what a real announcement can do for hype
overall i am midly satissfied with epic seven but i am really tired but the lack of improvemnts of the game compared to todays standard of the game
i dont care about new op ld unit ras



