#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

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turbid ridge
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he first pick sania and ling and put fuqio into save ban?

left snow
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people dont know how to draft

open fable
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no ban protect

turbid ridge
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oh right

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my bad

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man below dia its actually harder to draft

left snow
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yeah

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they should give ban protect for all elos

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and introduce pre bans only at dia+ imo

ripe kraken
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Not even touching

left snow
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its ok my guy you deserve the ban protet

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im about to decay and i dont really care either

turbid ridge
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we have decay real

half lodge
turbid ridge
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i still didnt do my 5 ranking rta games

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keep those for last week XD

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and go hard than

ripe kraken
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Of the month?

left snow
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of the season

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prob

ripe kraken
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They stay for the whole month damn

turbid ridge
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maybe after 2X if i get upgrades this time

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last 2X got me 0 red or gold rolls

left snow
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does it count

turbid ridge
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depends on the gear piece i guess XD

ripe kraken
open fable
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wow people really are going high er

marsh topaz
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yeli always def breaks my 320 sania

open fable
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well my 170 obol and kazu failed to cc a ling and sania

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i guess i need insight

left snow
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yeah you do

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170 is piss low

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obol not so much but kazuyo does struggle vs well built res units

fading delta
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kazuyo struggle more than obol?

indigo oyster
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time for me to experience hard 42

spice talon
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quantum cipherbox has to be ssr selector right

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quantum prototype is random ssr already

weak meteor
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no rumours pls

spice talon
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there's this thing which is also called a box

open fable
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imagine is only selecting 3 ssrs

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rat/kloros/rosa

spice talon
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borgne hellkid and lingluo

open fable
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nah not ling

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if its for new players prob ssrs for pve

left snow
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prototype is the random SSR

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cipherbox is the selector

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surely

marsh topaz
left moat
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

marsh topaz
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but 0 accuracy yeli somehow does

left snow
open fable
left snow
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cause he ignores eff res

spice talon
marsh topaz
left snow
left moat
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||10 fragments to your choice of SSR||

left snow
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he doesnt ignore eff res vs green characters

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but ignores vs everything else

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so vs obol sania is the best cleanser

marsh topaz
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bruh fuck that

spice talon
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is it too late though, i've cleared everything without kloss already - i don't think i want to re do all my teams

left snow
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since lingluo and doki are perma stunned

marsh topaz
left snow
marsh topaz
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funny and frustrating

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my couple def losses are because of that

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my ling always stunned

left moat
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It’s a 30+% chance for him to stun with that

left snow
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yeah

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so he is the best cc unit just cause of that

left moat
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Max you can reduce is 1/2 of base so 3 15% chances

open fable
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LOL

left snow
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60% and rolls 4 times ?

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or 3 cant remember

open fable
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KLOSS VERO AND TSUKI

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Cope failed

left snow
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what happened ?

left moat
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I meant 0 eff acc vs 300 is 30+%

left snow
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what is kloss vero and tuki

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oh yeah

open fable
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1.Limited-time Event [Wishbinder Gift]

When summoning Animus in [Permanent Summon], you can earn Wishbinder Pts. Once your points reach certain thresholds, you can claim stage rewards such as Perfect Lattice, Quantum Cipherbox (Including SSR Animus Selection: Kloss, Veronika, Tsukiyo Mi), Quantum Prototype, and more!

■ Event Period: 2025/08/07 04:00 - 2025/08/14 03:59 (SVT)

■ How to Unlock: Hyperlinker level reaches 15

left snow
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it was hyperbole

graceful juniper
left snow
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you still need 100 acc

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so it can be +100 on enemies 0 res

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which makes it 60%

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and rolls it 3 times

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so damn near impossible to resist

marsh topaz
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hahaha this box is ass

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WHERES MY RESET EVENT

left snow
marsh topaz
left snow
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vero is best red unit after holden for pvp

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tsuki is best blue unit after ling

marsh topaz
left snow
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who is free

marsh topaz
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i have em all p1 or higher

left snow
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well rip

marsh topaz
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no im glad

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i have 6 pulls

graceful juniper
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Dissapointing selector

marsh topaz
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like i wasnt getting that box anyway hahahaha

left snow
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thats one way to look at it

marsh topaz
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give me the lattice and im out

left snow
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but for those without tsuki or vero

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its an amazing selector

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cause those 2 are top tier in pvp

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well more like 0.5t

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but still

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pretty good

marsh topaz
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yeah i hope its like 1k summons for the box

spice talon
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K L O S S

marsh topaz
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so that no one gets it

left snow
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1 pve unit and 2 pvp units

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and they all excel in their areas

open fable
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im at the point where should i 6* Lilith or Tsuki

left snow
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pretty good selector for newbies and f2p players lacking key units

open fable
left snow
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unironically

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you take away tsuki from cleave

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and she is the best cr push in the game

marsh topaz
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6s prio doesnt even matter imo anymore

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i have 20 units 6 stared

open fable
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her atk buff kinda useless tho

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reset so i can drop my 5/5/5 rosa

left snow
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if she gets dispelled

gilded mason
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Why their patch notes always so vague

open fable
marsh topaz
gilded mason
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Will it kill them.to say how many summons needed for event

marsh topaz
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i need her GONE

open fable
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but @left snow ngl i need to build her

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kinda get cooked by cc units since my er units kinda trash

left snow
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she low prio for bruisers players

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high prio for standart

left snow
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for standart

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cr push is nasty

open fable
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but i want to play with lilith tho

left snow
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just 1-1-5 is good on her

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lilith is a unit thats like

open fable
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Liliam?

left snow
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pretty bad in 70% of games

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but 30% of games she auto wins the game in draft

open fable
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i think brusiers vs brusiers if you have doki and ling you win no with lilith?

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i wanna know if harvest stacks with Messi S3

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100% def ignore

left snow
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just saw this

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this is the secret stage indicator ?

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why is it called trial

left snow
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but its not 100% def ignore

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its not additive

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harvest is by far the best set for cleavers in pvp

open fable
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ah if it was i can see messi countering the holden rahu comp as last pick

left snow
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way way way more valuable than anything else

orchid needle
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Man at least put like xiada or Rosa in there

left snow
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some solid draft

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cause massiah is not a real unit after turn 1

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yeli is way better at killing those in that regard

open fable
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1shot wonder

left snow
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nah you cant 1 shot a well built bruiser team

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with 1 cleave unit

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only yeli can 100% to 0% 1 unit

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but not a whole team

open fable
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problem is lighthouse ling tho 240 speed enough to cut 345speed openers

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i think or was it 235

left snow
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most lings are triple eff res

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nowadays

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yeli can 1 shot her

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with mid rng

spice talon
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i dont think i can get on board with calling massiah messi

marsh topaz
left snow
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can somebody donate me heinrich

spice talon
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you can have mine

left snow
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what do you want in return

spice talon
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i rage six starred him to do terror inferno and it didnt even work

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now hes unused

left snow
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sadge

spice talon
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now i just like viper more in general

left snow
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he is very good in pvp

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and i dont have him

tribal osprey
spice talon
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i got my heinrich from a single anisync echoes ticket

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have you tried doing that

left snow
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you are too skilled

ancient lava
left snow
ancient lava
half lodge
marsh topaz
spice talon
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marathon

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wait are whiteknights allowed to say that

tribal osprey
spice talon
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its a doomer meme isnt it

tribal osprey
outer falcon
spice talon
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it was never our meme it was just the truth

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then it got memed

outer falcon
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Did they seriously not announce anything about compensation or rollbacks for the gvg week though

tribal osprey
spice talon
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thanks for clearing that up

outer falcon
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Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

open fable
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im donzo with 42 hard ember

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240 eff vice miss taunt 3 times in a row

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nicugamu

outer falcon
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You grinders are wild, I only bothered with 42 normie for now

marsh topaz
outer falcon
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I think this selector box is actually done well though. Am I a white knight now?

marsh topaz
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i watched netflix in the meantime

mental mural
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Two more months till the light reaches us

spark mural
mental mural
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"Real gacha gamer" like this aint you when grinding

open fable
spice talon
mental mural
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Smh

marsh topaz
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everyone is on bb

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and around 250 spd

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rahu is 220

open fable
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rahu lattice?

outer falcon
marsh topaz
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also

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i reset until 3rd mob she summoned wasnt dark

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cuz if she summons 2 darks its kinda unplayable

open fable
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focus on her? or just auto

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guess ima try it

marsh topaz
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i autoed thru it completely

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only focus on the boss

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and prio dark mob 2nd phase

zinc bronze
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aight I'm maxing lily s2 first thing in the 2x event so I can get faster clears for aurora FrogCoolCry

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Hope it doesn't fuck up my speed tuning

ripe kraken
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I got injured irl won't talk much now @mental mural

mental mural
ripe kraken
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I woke up kissing the earth after 20 mins

spice talon
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have you called a lawyer yet or did you come here first

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need to get your settlement before the event

outer falcon
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Holy shit man

wicked quiver
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brutal

mental mural
wicked quiver
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people were probably too busy recording for that hot tiktok video trend

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"someone should help this guy"

ripe kraken
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Stomped on my head as well

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I got free dom

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Not by women

winged python
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This is good enough for a cracked out diting right?

outer falcon
winged python
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Yea I assume for a debuff heavy team it'll be good enough for dmg

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Ty !

inland chasm
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Let me open one for ya and fight to death7482uwucat1 zf_hahaha

spice talon
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you can try

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the doomers these days are pretty boring

gilded mirage
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I'm sure gonna be a lot of more doomers once this event details comes out and we need like, 300 summons for max rewards

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And we are gonna be told "We'll adjust it next time it comes around"

spice talon
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they need to adjust rumble more

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im forever stuck in A

gilded mirage
spice talon
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wait where did i get this monkeys paw from

twilit vault
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they should have dropped the last lattice fragment reward tier to 2500 at least

glass vale
twilit vault
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same here but it's still a bit rng dependent

left snow
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even for f2p

wicked quiver
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I mean

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for F2P who have been saving, sure

left snow
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why wont a f2p save tho

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for next rgb banners

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in the first place

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current unit is ld

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no reason to pull perma for f2p

wicked quiver
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I don't know many f2p players who save 300+ summons, mostly they just save enough for 1 pity banner

left snow
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they are dumb then

wicked quiver
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either way I think 300 is fine for a selector, or whatever the reward is

left snow
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most of the f2p players in my guild have 200+ tickets

gilded mirage
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This is ableist /s

wicked quiver
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having said that, I have like 50 summons and I'm not going to spend hundreds to get up to 300+ for a selector, but I'm sure they'll rake in money regardless

gilded mirage
wicked quiver
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I said hundreds

gilded mirage
wicked quiver
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was doing rough math

gilded mirage
marsh topaz
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like i just got my hands on a multi

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maybe theres a dokidoki hidden in there

gilded mirage
marsh topaz
left snow
marsh topaz
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could u still say that if i pulled a doki in that multi

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you only need 1 pull to get her after all

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its called challenging the odds

mental mural
mental mural
mental mural
mental mural
spice talon
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ye we need new stuff to fight about

mental mural
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Send me your adress so we can fight renzoth bbg 😘

spice talon
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420 yo momma street

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you can ask natsu for advice on taking the bus

mental mural
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Won't be needed

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I'll be walking there
Hopefully I'll get to meet some fine people on your streets

spice talon
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they could be fine people

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i dont go outside so i wouldnt know

mental mural
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Where is my heavenly shell and Module Drop Rates thread?????

tribal osprey
mental mural
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I demand a body for this betrayal Jacj

mental mural
tribal osprey
mental mural
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They deleted the old threads FrogCoolCry

outer falcon
# left snow why wont a f2p save tho

I've been dumping everything over 140ish into perm because I'm missing a bunch of key units and I know I'll never have trouble with rgb pity even if I'm a multi or 2 short when banners launch

outer falcon
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Now I'll never pull off-banner or off-event again of course

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They always do these hoard-depleting events and then get mad when people hoard more in response

spice talon
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i must be asleep graven is talking sense

outer falcon
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I literally always talk sense except when I'm glazing Oboro

spice talon
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ive been thinking about oboro

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seems like an easy way to ensure you have debuffs for momentum

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but idk if that would literally ever be useful

tribal osprey
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I'm just waiting for the points you collect from summoning to be used as tokens to draw on a wheel. And when you get the SSR box it gives a random unit of the 3dv_frogKekOwO

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Come on Jack

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Dew it

mental mural
spice talon
tribal osprey
spice talon
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oh so its essentially 6 unique debuffs?

mental mural
tribal osprey
spice talon
spice talon
mental mural
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Wrong side = on Jack's meat by default

spice talon
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from my point of view the doomers are evil!

spice talon
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yeah he got a nice tan and went on to peacefully rule the galaxy

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the end

mental mural
mental mural
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Trust me young child
All my compatriots have reported new elevated levels of happiness since becoming one of us
We offer no suffering and we reward you with pure happiness

outer falcon
mental mural
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Detecting a hint of ignorance somewhere
Sniff sniff

spice talon
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this is the feedback graveyard

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it's where us OGs came to die

outer falcon
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I think it's more chill in here than it is in any other thread atp

mental mural
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^^^^

spice talon
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it is now

lilac lodge
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Honey wake up new EWS post just drop!

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My unique memories of EWS was that time in 2nd grade, I look out of my house window and witness a dude jumping down from the opposite building and smashed onto the ground. Great time!

gilded mirage
# tribal osprey

No time investment is the lie, you need to be on at certain times. Prepick would be nice for matches too.

gilded mirage
spice talon
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You don’t just think about oboro?

lilac lodge
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I have too

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she is good for cage rumble

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good alternative for niconana for the diting haters

naive wave
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kittenuwu Just saw the patch note
Time to use all the tickets I hoard

But when is new server's release? I have been busy and was free of gacha for weeks but surprisingly there aren't that many new servers?

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Yeah Oh we're close to 95k Discord members

5k more after that and we are getting some free pulls right? I remember BA doing the same for members mileage

mental mural
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We were at 111k 2 weeks ago

tribal osprey
nova island
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i hope so

outer falcon
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Did you guys know sleep gave a unique damage multiplier?

spice talon
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Why are you ruining this for me

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I was gonna be like caught in 4k

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And post pics

outer falcon
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I have no shame

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To be wrong is to be growing

lilac lodge
outer falcon
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Sorry to hear that boss

lilac lodge
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?

outer falcon
lilac lodge
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scientist hate this trick

spice talon
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He’s having trouble reading at the moment

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A real gacha gamer moment

outer falcon
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Sleep has been the same for decades, no need to read sleep

lilac lodge
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I heard there's a new summon event or smth

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EWS - Everyone Will Summon

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and before people tell me the joke is dead, I know but I think the dev team thought we actually find it funny, kinda like morbius

tiny sage
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ANYWAY

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NERF INFERNO

outer falcon
loud locust
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ringo purged a bunch of inactives

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I Really dont know why

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just more fuel for people to use against us for no reason 😭

spice talon
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Have a 95k celebration that’ll shut him up

tribal osprey
loud locust
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lolol

undone vortex
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purging the lurkers lol

zinc bronze
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til you can donate to your own unit on union

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didn't know that until I accidentally donated on my own xiada zf_hahaha

mental mural
outer falcon
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Howling, screaming, and gnashing my teeth

indigo oyster
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send team

pure junco
half lodge
undone vortex
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😭

ripe kraken
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@gilded mason asia S1 is matching eu in number of chat channels now

ripe kraken
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Asia S1 is dying

tribal osprey
spice talon
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do you expect people to just hold the game open while farming or what

outer falcon
spring yarrow
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1nekopopcorn_kitty I mean, we can just check on 2x. The channels aren't static

outer falcon
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All the multihits from the middle 3 have Clorox popping off constantly

spring yarrow
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if it's still 3 then we can doom on it dv_frogKekOwO

outer falcon
spice talon
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most of that can be chalked up to habit or a sense of community

spring yarrow
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feedback channel is our community

spice talon
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there was a time we had to have the game open so might as well talk

outer falcon
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Yeah, the behavior in this game is the legacy of that

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I don't know why they went with dynamic channels though

spice talon
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presumably to save resources when people close the game

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i cant imagine they ever thought it would be used to doompost like this zf_hahaha

spring yarrow
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dogo the devs understimated Agenda: Restart

outer falcon
spring yarrow
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we will get reset event by any means

twilit vault
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it's like we've recreated a slice of og internet bbs forums here lol

spring yarrow
twilit vault
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the road to 100k posts continues

tribal osprey
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The race to 100k poggers

spark mural
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just realized op quit the server already FrogePatBack

outer falcon
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He was gone long ago

spring yarrow
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op was weak

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couldn't handle the marathon

spice talon
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just like that quitter stabtwice

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and vampy

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they didnt even get replaced with good doomers

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its sad really

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does he know he has victor in the thumbnail

spring yarrow
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Zox knows something we don't

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Victor buffs next season

spice talon
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ill let you know what i find

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im going in

spring yarrow
spice talon
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he didnt even mention victor

spring yarrow
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baited

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FrogCoolCry I expected better from Zox

spice talon
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or lilith or veronika or hellkid or dokidoki

spring yarrow
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so who were the top 10?

spice talon
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nilu freya yeli lily valerian diting (rip victor) viper fuqiu r cachi vice kloss

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is that 10

outer falcon
gilded mason
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And in other thumbnails his mouth is open like o

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Close yo mouth bro

spring yarrow
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nerd ☝️

gilded mason
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Wanna buy his book

wicked quiver
spice talon
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he said no particular order

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but he also said 10 animus

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i dont know what to believe anymore

wicked quiver
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wait who tf is Nilu

spice talon
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the new girl that came with liliam

wicked quiver
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oh Nell

spice talon
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wtf they changed her name

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shes in my head as nilu thats never coming out

ripe kraken
# gilded mason

If tectone did one would have bought it or even michael reeves

ripe kraken
spring yarrow
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legit

spice talon
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it's Nell in game now to match the skills

outer falcon
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It used to be Nilu

spring yarrow
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woah, so that's what the update was

outer falcon
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Damn

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This motherfucker is going to set my account back a week tempting me to lattice Clorox s2

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spice talon
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they took the KKK away as well

outer falcon
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I hear it calling to me at all times already. 3 turn chain lock. 3 turn chain lock. 3 turn chain lock

spring yarrow
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rip KKK Nilu

spice talon
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never forget

outer falcon
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The Black Eyed Peas "Let's Get it Started" of SR units

spice talon
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i got nothing to put lattice in now i finished dokidoki

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and i need another dps

outer falcon
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Get into RTA you'll have other priorities

spice talon
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ive never done RTA zf_hahaha

wicked quiver
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"nothing to put lattice in" sounds like a good problem to have honestly

ripe kraken
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Show s0

spice talon
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how

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i have an old pic but that wont help

wicked quiver
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I'm so short on lattice I have to make a multi-page pro/con list for every lattice I spend

outer falcon
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Mine is 1 1 4 but when I take him into phantom theater green boss he can solo SSS zf_hahaha

outer falcon
spice talon
outer falcon
spice talon
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ye i do that 5 every day

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this was probably a tuesday pic

spice talon
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im just too stupid and not competitive enough for rta

outer falcon
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Some of the people who've come around and shown like top 500 rank status have been both dumb as bricks and illiterate

spice talon
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the mode just doesnt make sense to me in any game

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im supposed to just use something else because they picked it?

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what if i dont have something else

spring yarrow
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So Renzoth's just a PVE champion?

outer falcon
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The draft is the meat and potatoes that separates it from everything else

outer falcon
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But right now the unit pool isn't really deep enough to do that super successfully zf_hahaha

spice talon
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it just doesnt compute in my brain zf_hahaha

spring yarrow
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Assume everyone's a meta sheep and build around that

ripe kraken
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Sadge

outer falcon
spice talon
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after this pep talk i feel im ready to jump in the pvp threads

ripe kraken
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I thought renezoth was a speed demon

spring yarrow
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Same

spice talon
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time to talk some shit

outer falcon
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Renzo has like nothing above +9 speed

ripe kraken
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I thought this guy was some rta chad that's why he defends the game

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But in reality

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He never touched it

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He is virgin

spring yarrow
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I have like 2 yellow speed. Quite sad

spice talon
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maybe thats why i like the game

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im not jaded by pvp

ripe kraken
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Yes

outer falcon
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Like one of the many reasons Doki is so good is that you can pick her as an opener and, if the opponent doesn't know your style, they have no idea if you're using her to cleave, to pick her away so you can cc, or as a tank support

ripe kraken
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Pve defender is funny

spice talon
#

you people let that shit affect you way too much

ripe kraken
#

I actually feel bad for renezoth now

#

Even doomers played rta

#

And white knights

#

But this guy

#

Doesn't go to both category

outer falcon
#

In lower RTA a lot of dumbasses like to open with their fastest and most important units first to secure them against being stolen, which tells you who to ban

#

Some people scam off that and pick a bait unit first (I do that with Tsuki a lot so my faster, later picked Doki goes through)

spice talon
ripe kraken
#

Then remove ur arena defense as well as my defense since that's also pvp

outer falcon
#

The easiest way to RTA for weekly points is just to go in and cleave quickly against bots though tbh you don't have to learn jack shit

#

Draft 1 turn buffer or DPS, draft another set of turn buffer and dps, draft a cc, go in, win or lose, repeat

spice talon
#

ive only got massiah diting and xiada built as dps

#

and 2 of them suck

#

i never got a yeli

outer falcon
#

Massiah and Diting are fine, you can coast through to low plat on that zf_hahaha

#

Same, worst decision I've made

spice talon
#

im at pity for the next ld banner but surely they wont do 3 dps in a row

outer falcon
#

We're only lacking another cc unit for 2 of every broad class

spring yarrow
#

He's going to start PvP now 😭

outer falcon
#

Actually I guess there's no apex healer

#

I'm putting my bet in for cc or healer

#

No bruiser either though pepethinking

spice talon
#

i broke more than 1 phone to violent procs in summoners war back in the day zf_hahaha

weak meteor
#

dang renzoth about to convert the moment he steps into rta

#

this a new timeline

outer falcon
tribal osprey
#

bro doesnt play pvp in the pvp game? pepethinking

spice talon
#

who says its a pvp game pepethinking

outer falcon
#

They marketed it that way despite always wanting it to be the dark souls of turn based gacha, according to c

spice talon
#

did they market it that way though

#

or did content creators just hype it up

outer falcon
#

I don't have a copy of their press deck but I assume from the consistency of cc statements that they were fed that

spice talon
#

i mean yeah

#

it was all the same "look at how many pve game modes there are and also not one NOT TWO BUT THREE PVP MODES"

#

i dont recall anything trying to make this the definitive only worth playing for pvp game

half lodge
#

My favorite thread on this discord

mental mural
ripe kraken
#

I got injured hope u guys are safe

#

Someone is using vodoo doll on us

half lodge
#

So else was shitposting

ripe kraken
#

Gi players are just brian washed

#

For this many years

#

When gi ends

#

They will wake up

outer falcon
spice talon
#

It’s a problem in all PvP games

half lodge
#

No it isnt

half lodge
outer falcon
#

Less so in games where money doesn't necessarily buy you the throne or make you feel the gap as obviously as in gacha

spice talon
outer falcon
#

I might get aim diffed by an 8 year old clone of the rizz king who does nothing but play in CoD, but the game doesn't try to sell me aimbot packs afterwards

half lodge
#

Or somebody mentions the game as competetive esports and nothing happens

outer falcon
#

Aside from the cheaters zf_hahaha

half lodge
#

Same in lol and others

outer falcon
#

But WoW doesn't hold events you can only earn out by swiping

half lodge
#

Yh but thankfully the game doesnt Dell you cheats

outer falcon
#

LoL has you grind to unlock characters but it's all game sense and teamwork and micro otherwise

#

There's no KeLianBao for street fighter

spice talon
#

I’m never gonna agree with playing a gacha game and then complaining about gacha mechanics

outer falcon
#

It's not a complaint, it's an explanation for why these people don't play them

outer falcon
#

You can play any of these other games without having to make peace with the fact that you're only allowed to play so that there's a population of fodder for the most insane gamblers to be better than dv_frogKekOwO

spice talon
#

What the hell are you talking about I feel like I’ve missed something

half lodge
#

People in general gacha space as graven said are okay in pay to win in pve and wgaling bcs IT doesnt impact other players
But when you nention pvp in gacha IT instantly goes down in score for the generał community

spice talon
#

I think we’re talking about different things

outer falcon
#

When people must lose, because most people must, they prefer to feel as though it wasn't due to circumstances beyond their control the way it is everywhere else they lose

spice talon
#

That’s not unique to gachas

outer falcon
#

No, but it's heightened by them

#

To a qualitatively different degree

spice talon
#

Yeah and they need to be told tough shit you knew what kind of game it was

outer falcon
#

They don't because they just won't play them

#

That's what I'm saying, the second you vamp PvP, you lose most of the gacha market immediately

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Whereas in the wider gaming market, many of the biggest games in the world are PvP

spice talon
#

Oh got it

#

We were talking from different angles

outer falcon
#

Yeah

spice talon
#

I was just saying pvpers are shitheads in all games

#

That was the extent of my point

outer falcon
#

100% the same type of person

spice talon
#

I think they added the walking sections in this game to try attract hoyo gacha players

outer falcon
#

Unquestionably

spice talon
#

They must have known they couldn’t really compete with them with this kind of games though

outer falcon
#

I wish I had access to their design docs because so little of anything makes sense cohesively

#

But C claims they've got a 5 year plan like the soviets doing war communism in 1925 or whatever

#

What is it zf_hahaha

spice talon
#

If Chris ever bails on this game I’m out

outer falcon
#

Poor guy just wants them to make the grind time demand easier so he can clear infernos

ripe kraken
#

And Chris also said 2 years

#

I hope it's not coincidence

inland chasm
loud locust
#

dont worry

ripe kraken
#

Ok

half lodge
#

we love you and your dog chris

spice talon
#

poor chris gets dogpiled every time he shows up

twilit vault
#

i have 0 problems with c, he's doing fine as cm, it's more the people behind the scenes committing unforced errors causing bad will and publicity towards the game

spice talon
#

Fs in chat boys saluttsaluttsalutt

half lodge
#

Good

#

Now only i quit and we have lost 2 best rta players and trolls

mental mural
mental mural
outer falcon
#

That's a damn shame, great guy, smart

#

That reminds me I've been seeing TrueWhale's name in the SW tourney qualifiers dv_frogKekOwO haven't kept up but hope he did alright

loud locust
#

ill get xiao back

#

he's just being dumb today

#

he woke up on the wrong side of the bed

mental mural
ripe kraken
outer falcon
#

Strugglebus was born on the wrong side of the womb

#

Incomparable

solid orchid
#

dude graven

#

you are actually a legend

mental mural
warped stump
#

since they do 8 people from americas and iirc he's still top8

mental mural
#

What's swc

outer falcon
#

Good on him

half lodge
#

Summoners war chsmpionship

#

And in Polish wojny przywoływaczy turniej

mental mural
#

Meh

outer falcon
#

is this a Hoyo-coded comment

spring yarrow
#

HSR ahh comment

#

jk, it's fine to be disappointed when you get baited by tier lists and spend currency

#

buyer's remorse and all

wicked quiver
fathom tusk
#

for lilliam, nope. just the expectation of new LD SSR with loaded kit so must be OP

tribal osprey
tribal osprey
vague violet
#

C’s fine it’s the bs artists behind the scenes that are infuriating

orchid needle
#

The existence of C means theres a dev named A

clear gulch
#

We need the hypertalk man 😭

zinc bronze
#

bro why am I getting matched with bots on plat

ripe kraken
#

Playing

undone vortex
#

people don't like the bruiser meta or they needa refarm for it

#

lel

zinc bronze
#

Yeah, I switched to bruisers so I can have a chance to win but I'm not enjoying it

ripe kraken
#

Bye guys I am leaving later day leave a flower at my grave @outer falcon @undone vortex @spice talon @mental mural

undone vortex
clear gulch
spring yarrow
tribal osprey
ripe kraken
#

Will miss ur horse and marathon jokes

tribal osprey
ripe kraken
mental mural
mental mural
open fable
#

Damn did bug left or someone banned him

spring yarrow
#

idk what specifically caused it

#

but he said he was leaving

open fable
#

Ah then prob c

#

Last I saw he was telling c something something and c said he wanted challenging pve but no time consuming for pve

#

Or something

spring yarrow
#

#1384230665461170346 message

#

he's still not back

tribal osprey
#

something something in 10 years it will get better

#

cause its a MARATHON

open fable
tribal osprey
#

NOT A SPRINT

#

Remember team. There's no I in marathon

gilded mason
clear gulch
#

why the fk C sadi that LOL

tribal osprey
#

and they were talking about farming content

#

so

tribal osprey
#

something about how easier inferno would fuck up the economy

clear gulch
#

we have other pve content which can and certainly should be challenging(ember trek, ralley etc.). BUT NOT THE FARMING SECTION. LOL

clear gulch
#

said what

tribal osprey
#

c disagreed

clear gulch
#

what ive said?

tribal osprey
#

to make the non farming pve harder

#

and the farming easier

clear gulch
#

yes which makes absolutely sense

tribal osprey
#

c said no

clear gulch
#

WTF

tribal osprey
#

ITS A MARATHON MOTHERFUCKER

clear gulch
#

yea fk it gatekeep your casual player base even more, not like more and more are quitting icant nerfing farming content should have been nerfed the yesterdays yesterday

#

can understand bug quitting 100%

tribal osprey
ripe kraken
#

@gilded mason why are u not replying will u leave the flower or not XD

tribal osprey
#

he quit the discord

#

hes in the rta server

#

o7

ripe kraken
#

He will though

#

He even quit e7

#

This game quit is peanuts for him

clear gulch
ripe kraken
#

@tribal osprey send his username

tribal osprey
ripe kraken
#

Of discord

#

I need to message him

#

Bugfixes

clear gulch
#

anyone has the section where C said that?

#

can link me

#

I cant believe it

gilded mason
#

I will leave a

#

Rafflesia

#

at your grave

ripe kraken
#

Yes and tell lisanna to stay safe

gilded mason
#

dont worry

ripe kraken
#

To lucy also

gilded mason
#

no one in fairy tail ever dies

#

its either they already dead and revive

#

or they die and revive

ripe kraken
#

Ultear died

#

Revived

tribal osprey
#

@clear gulch

gilded mason
ripe kraken
#

Only zeref and Mavis died

#

I guess

gilded mason
#

they got revived

#

"revived"

ripe kraken
#

Yes

#

That's another life though

gilded mason
#

same shit

#

how could you quit etheria

#

what about EWS 2026

ripe kraken
#

Madness loid will take care

gilded mason
#

is

#

dead

ripe kraken
#

Huh

#

Yeah

#

He didn't even chat

#

Recently

tribal osprey
#

hes busy preparing for taurus cup

open fable
#

Oneshot

tribal osprey
#

bro is a pr genius

clear gulch
# tribal osprey

thx, Ive have read a lot of it. Im 100% on bugs side of argumentation even tho he might have had a really bad day and was a bit mean here and there which is understandable if you consider recent rta meta.

Anyways, to make games stable you need to make your new playerbase and casuals happy and satisfyed FIRST. Only from here onwards you try to make improvements for the loud minority (which is us). You cant create or find the "middle grounds" for everyone, devs, casuals, high rta etc. when you lack a fun and engaging base in the first place and this starts objectively with making inferno stages and its gear farmable for lows while keeping hard pve content tied to ember trek, ralley and such (btw we lack content here imma be honest). Advertising your game as pvp and lock its gear behind dark souls bosses doesnt get into my head. WE HAVE ENOUGH rng layers tied in gear(including shells hehe) to challenge even when making inferno more accessible. I dont get this economy is fucked argument, when nerfing it all. With a release schedule of 1-2 banners every 3 weeks you wont be able to build up your full roster anyways when pulling in everyone of those, and get bored - if people think so they are disconnected from reality.

just throwing my 2 cents here lol

tribal osprey
clear gulch
gilded mason
#

You can tell from their monetization, recolors, shit value packs, dark souls bosses, poor patch notes etc.

#

They dont even have the basics down

ripe kraken
#

Elitists

gilded mason
#

They just thought, hey lets make an rta pvp focused game with tournaments, then make pve super hard so people cant even get to the pvp

#

Did they even consider their target audience?

#

Whos the game aimed at?

#

Hardcore? Casual?

ripe kraken
#

Even competitive unions turning into casual slowly

gilded mason
#

Gamblers?

#

Make up your mind lmao

#

Wasnt the game in development for years?

#

What the fuck were they doing for years

weak meteor
#

probably aimed at hardcore gamblers with the amount of gatekeeping and rng aspects of the game

ripe kraken
graceful cradle
gilded mason
#

Getting paid for nothing

ripe kraken
#

Btw 5 years for this game state feels weird

gilded mason
#

Then bosses jumped on his ass asking wheres the game

graceful cradle
#

Could they have taken a lot of other steps to address the issues? Absolutely, but since this is the path they've decided on it is ultimately what was best for the low end of pvp even if the people climbing hate it

gilded mason
#

So he released this half fucked game

graceful cradle
#

And he crashed out due to that

ripe kraken
#

5 years of development and best they can do is this

graceful cradle
#

It wasn't out of the goodness of his heart lol

weak meteor
tribal osprey
graceful cradle
#

And the fact that with no 3rd bpp under diamond fledgling Turn 2 players were just getting ran over in draft

weak meteor
#

nerfing the pve would allow more ppl to farm the counters for rev and then the complaints to rev wont be as much if they just decided to nerf the farming stages

gilded mason
graceful cradle
#

There's a lot of factors that kept potential answers to the Rev shit that was bullying the avg player

weak meteor
#

but somehow the devs really like their players to not be able to farm the gears to engage in pvp

graceful cradle
#

But they chose this route and so we're locked in

clear gulch
#

wait is there a source they worked 5 years on that game?

gilded mason
#

Elden ring took 5 years too

ripe kraken
gilded mason
graceful cradle
gilded mason
#

Whos taking 5 years to come up with this game lmao

clear gulch
#

wow....

ripe kraken
graceful cradle
#

Keep in mind beta was also like 100x easier and the there was no rev bb meta

gilded mason
#

Skyrim took 6 years

graceful cradle
#

It was in the last paid beta but neither was used really

gilded mason
#

Pretty sure he just sat on his ass for 5 years taking free pay lmao

#

Im gonna get banned

ripe kraken
#

Bye soldier

graceful cradle
#

But yeah idk we still need 3rd bpp in low elo. That will just fix a lot of pvp issues overall

ripe kraken
#

We are both leaving this realm

gilded mason
#

Im just gonna say what im feeling

#

This game feels more like a 1 year rushed developed game

#

Not 5 years

ripe kraken
#

5 years for this much bugs yeah

graceful cradle
#

They should have nerfed the difficulty of the farming stages there's a bunch of other content to farm trust me it's annoying keeping up with a full time job and this game demanding even more time

gilded mason
#

Its so buggy and janky

ripe kraken
#

Btw people are asking ps5 for etheria

weak meteor
#

devs dont understand that challenging pve can be put into ember trek ethernet rally anisync echoes

#

and farming pve should be easier and more accessible

graceful cradle
#

It's getting hard to keep up with replacing the people burning out

#

And that's in a top 50-100 guild

gilded mason
#

LOL

#

Joke of the century

tribal osprey
gilded mason
#

This game is definitely one of the product of all time

weak meteor
#

devs can just stick to their guns about their farming pve difficulty, but dont be surprised when they keep bleeding players and rta becomes the best joke of the game. imagine advertising RTA as one of the main draws of the game and yet majority of players dont engage with it LMAO

tribal osprey
weak meteor
#

maybe this is why they hosted EWS so early

#

if they hosted EWS during this season

clear gulch
#

imma be honest, I didnt know they worked 5 years on this. Not trying to bash or anything but hearing that is kinda demotivating to read. They really need shifting their whole dev roster, literal making a 180 turn or something. Atleast they did good having C, even tho I disagree with some of his takes but thats okay. He prolly disagrees with a lot of takes from others aswell.

gilded mason
#

Im on the fence about ews zf_hahaha

graceful cradle
#

@loud locust if you see this btw there's an ever shrinking pool of players to recruit for our guilds like it'd be great if the devs were a little more in touch with the state of things.

Like the whining over Liliam is just bs she's fine. The uproar over the selectors however is legit. Tbh you guys never should have included a selector like that attached to a summoning event. If you just had us complete some special new event and we get the select from 3 box people would be less pissed. But you want them to spend their summoning currency a week after a new banner for a selector with a limited pool. At that point you should have just let it be any RGB - you already opened Pandora's box.

gilded mason
#

Are just sitting on their ass for 5 years zf_hahaha

#

This company is not some small indie studio

tribal osprey
clear gulch
gilded mason
#

Their revenue is in the hundreds of millions

weak meteor
#

"u dont have to pull, nobody is forcing u to!" - white knight probably

tribal osprey
gilded mason
ripe kraken
#

Even soc was a red flag

graceful cradle
#

Now people are going to flip shit if the numbers of summons required is going to be insane which I'm fairly sure will be a high number. You guys completely ignored the GW crowd which is going to be your more hard-core and dedicated playerbase up there with the RTA players and that leaves a sour taste in our mouths. There needs to be a 3rd pick ban protection slot in ALL ranks of RTA. This is too crucial for people to actually be able to pvp, and is a large part of why Rev skewed so heavily last season. And finally like I was saying there's constantly this one step forward 2 massive steps backwards problem like you guys really need some Ws right now and can't afford that effort to be marred by literally at this point a lack of real effort to understand why people are upset.

The farming stages are stil too hard for a lot of people still and too time consuming. Trek is too time consuming though I guess if the daily farming took less time that's also less of an issue.

Dreamscape keys were overpriced and RNG boxes for lattice was diabolical. Like not everything needs to be like pulling teeth. Take a page from SG's book and know when to gracefully accept that maybe you aren't always right in your vision for the game vs the playerbase's.

You guys wanna emulate Year 1 Epic Seven so bad that you also want to nearly die like they did too? I can't imagine the 2.1 rating on the Play store + review bombing and people mass quitting isn't something XD staff don't know about

@loud locust

ripe kraken
#

The fire icon game

#

Was also same

#

Their 2 games were red flags

#

Third game is turning to be

tribal osprey
#

no sure if its true

#

we will find out tomorrow dv_frogKekOwO

#

BRACE FOR IMPACT

graceful cradle
clear gulch
ripe kraken
tribal osprey
ripe kraken
#

Of story and stuff

tribal osprey
#

they just gave a survey to taunt you

spring yarrow
ripe kraken
#

They make a clear path that they act with

gilded mason
#

5 years of development for this is just..m

ripe kraken
#

Their all dev discussion say that

spring yarrow
#

hoyo takes qol requests from the old game and puts it into their new project dv_frogKekOwO

#

then adds it to the old game after a while

tribal osprey
spring yarrow
#

hsr just got skip button

tribal osprey
#

genshin also got a ||time||skip button!

clear gulch
#

uhm yea... I cba giving anymore valuable feedback if they are that slow to listen and implementing stuff.
If I knew they were working for 5 years on that then yea.... they better pay me/and others with smart and good takes to hand them out more feedback. For now I think im gonna just chill and see what happens with the game playing it on the side.

Kinda disappointed SmogeBusiness

graceful cradle
#

Like my guild needs to replace people who want to quit but we're hostaging them cuz who do we recruit lol

jade shoal
#

L Dev, making the game not enjoyable and time consuming.

ripe kraken
#

Ur global

graceful cradle
#

And they want to quit due to burnout and not liking the direction of the game due to devs not understanding any player concerns

ripe kraken
#

I am asia otherwise I would have sent

#

Peeps

weak meteor
#

i mean it will reach a point where players start giving up and just quit

graceful cradle
#

Yup sadly

tribal osprey
spring yarrow
graceful cradle
#

Like as shitty as epic seven is rn

#

At least it's not miserable to maintain

#

I can always wait for a better meta there

#

But even the act of keeping up in ER is like ripping your spleen out barehanded

graceful cradle
#

The game is good at it's core but they are so stubborn and it's going to be a death knell to this game

#

Difficult farming content is not the hill to die on

spring yarrow
#

turns out the dark souls of gacha was E:R and not Wuwa

tribal osprey
#

guys no need to get mad at pve game. WE GOT TAURUS CUP IN 2 WEEKS

#

WE GOT EVIL NATURES TO BUILD

#

also with that profile picture I better see an r6s1 in November @clear gulch