inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[left snow]

1

[ripe kraken]

I won't queue to you

Even if I do

I just top right

[gilded mason]

Anyone got her 5/5/5 wanna share some guide

[inland chasm]

Ah you that guy i cant read the name

[half lodge]

And unironically do you bugfixplease make any content i would be happy to watch it

[ripe kraken]

He is soryu wanashino

Something

[left snow]

nah i can barely talk properly

im a keyboard warrior

need to hide behind a facade on discord

[half lodge]

That's the best attitide

[ripe kraken]

Can I bugfix ur bugs in garden by removing ur grass

My dreambaa needs it

[left snow]

[inland chasm]

He finally took over breads spot

[left snow]

how about a no

[ripe kraken]

My dreambaa needs food

[half lodge]

Have you previously played any gachas bugfixed please

[ripe kraken]

He did

[half lodge]

Or any other turn based games ocerall

[inland chasm]

He probably played sw or e7 like most of the people here

[left snow]

i was rank 1 in several seasons in sw

but never finished rank 1

cause im a scrub

[half lodge]

Damn

Nice

I have to say from most of the top players here

That are regulary taking on the discord

You are the most human one

And i respect your opinions the most

[left snow]

thanks

i do feel like a basement dweller

thats nice to hear

[half lodge]

And from your perspective was this hype moment during the ewcs when the sw guy appearef

[lean mulch]

but EWS2025 already happened so maybe EWS2026?

[lean mulch]

What about the Champion of EWS2025

[mental mural]

Never
Stop asking

[lean mulch]

I love that attitude. Never stop asking for what you want

[mental mural]

What you deserve*

[lean mulch]

@warped kestrel please continue asking

mods please mute flamel when he start speaking

ohh wait

[mental mural]

💀

[gilded mason]

You should tag the mods

If you dont.tag them.they cant hear you

[lean mulch]

No I wouldn't dare

I heard someone got banned

[mental mural]

Who are the current mods

[gilded mason]

Who??

[lean mulch]

I truly wonder

[mental mural]

Yous weak!!!

[lean mulch]

I am okay being weak

[mental mural]

Find a mod for me to tag

Show you how it's done in these streets

🗣️

[lean mulch]

@warped kestrel do you know any mods you can tag?

I am too bussy to tag any mods

HAHA

[mental mural]

Smh

[mental mural]

My question as well

[inland chasm]

Liar you arent #1

Rip forgot to edit the bar down below who cares

[left snow]

[inland chasm]

Definetly a bug

[ripe kraken]

[spice talon]

EWS2025 already happened? are there perhaps highlights?

[gilded mason]

Omg

[lean mulch]

Imma name my son kekker

[gilded mason]

WORLD CHAMPION

[lean mulch]

Yall should have caught

The world first event

[spice talon]

look who it is

he hates diting and now liliam

maybe he just hates dark characters

[inland chasm]

Maybe he is a rac....

[half lodge]

I have done some theorycrafting

And according to my calculations liliam should go full tank bulit and just pasively stack injures with ult

She always win long game

And people invest into dmg too much

HP piece/HP head/HP arms and 3 HP modules

[spice talon]

cant tell if youre trolling because i kind of agree

im not gonna get her but seems like youd want her to be able to tank the bruiser damage at least so she can slowly whittle them down

[gilded mason]

then her s3 giving herself atk is bait

[spice talon]

but what do i know im iron 1

[gilded mason]

but she doesnt scale of hp or def

what a scam

cmon devs, make up your mind

[half lodge]

Nah but to be serious

If she underpercorms she will surely get buffed

This patch got a lot of buffs

Just at the start of next season

But i think she should scale with a tank stat instead of attack now she is in a weird middle road

In term of design

[spice talon]

kind of agree with this, destroying hp is useless if you just aim to def break and one shot

maybe they want to enable both play styles?

[orchid needle]

I dont think she stacks enough damage to seal a significant amount

She'd need to cycle a lot

And with the anti heal and shield effect in pvp by the time you build up a significant amount units will be dying cause no more healing and shielding

I think its either full damage or just bloodbath then damage

[graceful cradle]

@loud locust btw idk if you've been paying attention to uh the rumors circulating but i'd definitely recommend forwarding to XD that they should probably get ahead of this future PR disaster waiting to happen regarding a summon event.

Cuz if you remember with the 2x thing at launch, the longer it goes on with uncertainty people will end up whipping themselves into a frenzy and then you have an angry mob to deal with again even if it is over an unconfirmed leak that somehow made it into the client at least see if they will say something to address it. Communication helps for these things

[outer falcon]

He's seen them, he said he can't comment about it or something

Kinda disappointing

[graceful cradle]

i mean idc either way if we get it cool

[half lodge]

In coporate communication there is a famous saying that if people arent provided infromation
They will make their own 🙂

[graceful cradle]

if we dont these things happen

but the typical RIGHT move when the oh shit oopsies mistakes happen is to immediately make a statement before things get out of hand

surprisingly people get less angy when you are open with them

Silence is usually the worst choice in the decision tree lol but i mean SG learned the hard way too and now they're in a spot where they can never nerf units cuz they had to acquiesce to player demands for selectors

I see the same shit happening here - which is also why i think resets are a bad precedent for nerfs tbh

[graceful juniper]

anyway its kinda okay if they go silence if the source are from leaks...but this is from their official channel to get info(ingame annoucement) so kinda big deal

[graceful cradle]

usually yea like the yeli leak, holden leak etc drelzhar those were ultimately harmless

Drelzhar might be annoying for them but like in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal

[spice talon]

problem with this company is that he might legit not know either way poor guy

[graceful cradle]

This though is going to be a huge shitstorm when next week rolls around and no Selector or 2x

[graceful cradle]

this is actually true yea

[ripe kraken]

Hmm

How are you zaee

[graceful cradle]

Currently at work, watching the trainwreck in slowmotion slowly pick up steam

[ripe kraken]

So what will happen to all those 12 lattice f2p

[glass ruin]

how is liliam

[ripe kraken]

Lilliams

[graceful cradle]

I see more and more "when i get my selector" talk and i already know

This is gonna be some shit

[graceful cradle]

I mean you got however much time of abusing them when they were good

[orchid needle]

I still need a blue dps might just be time to build rin unbowed

[graceful cradle]

And as long as they aren't gutting units just tweaking

[orchid needle]

If I had a selector though...

[graceful cradle]

There should be no need to refund units

[graceful cradle]

Also consider this; you think f2p has it bad because they abused something good and it got adjusted? Imagine now sinking 12 lattice + the money to get 5 dupes

I whale and i think that nerfs are good and we shouldn't be able to just hot potato our resources around if things get adjusted to the new FOMO meta units

[ripe kraken]

They didn't even abuse lilliam yet

[graceful cradle]

That's exactly why Epic Seven is in the shit state it's in rn

They can't nerf the things that need to be nerfed cuz they'd have to give selectors

It's the same idea as reset events

[graceful cradle]

I'm talking like Yeli/Massiah here who i know whales have 5/5'd

If you give a reset event like say now, then everyone is just going to dump all their lattice into Rahu/Holden til they get nerfed and something new and op comes along/is buffed. It's just not healthy for the game

Instead what would be better is if you're f2p and new banners come out like this one, hold off until you can make an informed decision from whales like me who will just throw resources into them

If Liliam is bad oh well that's 12 lattices and 3 dupes i can't get back but ultimately it was a gamble anyway

[glass ruin]

is rahu broken now

[graceful cradle]

Bread doesn't think so

But he was doing good in pvp prior to his buffs

[glass ruin]

i heard a lot of good things about mizuki

[left snow]

no

i wanna play rtaaa

AARRR

[orchid needle]

OK wait nilu is a lot better than I thought

The heal and turn advance on her w is 4 times

[inland chasm]

Than play

[lean mulch]

what's the new sr name?

[lean mulch]

Bro prolly say he is a rage baiter everytime his weakass takes backfire

[elder sandal]

Nilu/Nell

[lean mulch]

NELL DOWN AND TAKE DEEZ NUTS

[lean mulch]

sorry fam

[elder sandal]

Kneel*

[lean mulch]

yayoi mizuki? Not a fan of her works

PLEASE XD OVERLORD PLEASE GIVE ME A BULWARK SWIFTRUSH SWIFTSMITE JACKAL GUARD, I IMMEDIATELY DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF OBSCENITIES USED BY LIKE 23.5%

[half lodge]

@graceful cradle sory for ping i really wondered about 1 thing and wanted to Ask you because i think you may know why is IT like that

[graceful cradle]

what's up

[half lodge]

I have been playing E7 for almost 3 weeks now and unironically my fav game modes are static arena and gw, especially when i have a small amount of units and lack 90% of ml i always feel like i have a puzzle to solve how to beat opponents team i love this i AM so exitex always to Play arena even despite these are bots

But when i Play etheria i literally feel braindead and have completly no emotiions in union war or in static arena 0, just stat check in both game modes or just gear check

And only feel Smth when rta here

In etheria i only lack 4 Heroes

[graceful cradle]

You can definitely cook in GW defenses but rn a lot of people don't have much lattice to really experiment

But if you like cooking then look at units like Celince Beyontin and Veronika some more

Lots of weird shit you can do with them in GW defense

[half lodge]

Yeah but why do in 1 game i think the gm is completly resident sleeper and in another not do you agree with this take or nah?

[lean mulch]

I think for union wars right now, most players can only do up stat check defense

[half lodge]

IT can be as you said that is due to cannot experiment

[graceful cradle]

Arena def though is pretty hard to do much it seems like a bunch of support + bruiser is like the most standard lineup

[spring yarrow]

they're multiplying

[graceful cradle]

That said though i will definitely say joining Talentless completely 180'd my view on GW content so i completely understand why you're saying this

[lean mulch]

i see @charred minnow going full violence on dem younguns

[graceful cradle]

Before i thought of E7 GWs basically how you're feeling about ER pvp content - it's just a means to an end to get my stuff and idc it's not skillful and then when i hit high lvl GWs in E7 it was like a totally different game

[lean mulch]

so is she good or bad

or just mid

[spring yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/take-off-hood-jedi-revenge-of-the-sith-anakin-skywalker-hayden-christensen-gif-17672513

[graceful cradle]

Etheria kinda feels like it's starting to get there but it's def gonna take some more time

tbf i do agree with @charred minnow

[lean mulch]

Surely anakin will save those children amirite

yea

[spring yarrow]

surely

[graceful cradle]

Like shes a little weaker than initially expected but also not every unit needs to be gamebreaking on release

i think most people had unreal expectations when literally Khloros Diting Hoyan all have been railed to hell and back in pvp for the same shit

[lean mulch]

plus her kit can be easily overtuned so actually props to the team for not going that route

and really tho

[graceful cradle]

It was literally people looking at Liliam, recognizing she's an apple then getting mad when they didn't get an orange lol

[lean mulch]

But when it comes to tinder dates they are okay because boy have they been running dry

[spring yarrow]

I propose that we use content creators as a scapegoat

[half lodge]

Its most resonable to release bad unit then BUFF in nessesary otherwise people cry that unit is nerfed

[spring yarrow]

clickbait went crazy on liliam

[graceful cradle]

I think she's really good at what they designed her for - countering cc comps and being a good anti-bruiser bruiser

People who expected her to be a delete button were delulu af in BB meta

[lean mulch]

Plus most people are not even at the state where her prowess will be relevant

[graceful cradle]

absolutely yeah

[half lodge]

Can you even win with Control against her?

[lean mulch]

Like I am not at the state where I can compete above plat but I understand how she will scale up in higher ranks

[graceful cradle]

i feel like she's a bit squishier than i expected with her stat allocation but her damage was about what i figured it'd be

At least while we're all wearing bbath anyway

If control happens to force bruisers off bbath onto bulwark, she might go crazy then

[lean mulch]

Eat my girl out on her period, called it bloodbath

From a game design perspective

I like to think the devs foresee control becoming overwhelming because of the revelation nerf

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/black-sabbath-war-pigs-now-in-darkness-world-stops-turning-cat-meme-gif-2293313292264516980

[lean mulch]

All in all, Liliam will do a solid job at what she do, or what people like to call = mid

but being mid is okay

is like middle of the batch

not everyone can be on top

Except yo mama hehe lmao geddem

but ya jokes aside

I think Liliam being mid is the best outcome for her release

[graceful cradle]

i think i was alarmed seeing her kit on paper and i'm very okay with seeing her in practice

[lean mulch]

exactly

[graceful cradle]

i have enough of a new LD completely hosing my playstyle from E7 already\

[outer falcon]

[lean mulch]

sure in some matches she will be enough to secure the wins

but you can't draft her into everything and expect her to win

and that's the good game design we been asking XD to give

[gilded mason]

Noooo

[graceful cradle]

Now if we could just get more bruisers that would be great

[gilded mason]

We want OP LDS

[outer falcon]

It's expensive game design

[open fable]

@gilded mason I think you can put her in cc comp no?

[lean mulch]

And the boys/girls in this chat knows how critical i am about ER's game and level design

[open fable]

That S2 seems diabolical

[graceful cradle]

tired of these rev abusers taking my bruisers to anchor their drafts and i'm cooked with like the 3 options i have LOL

[gilded mason]

She seems to be a cc unit with her guaranteed stun

[graceful cradle]

you can definitely take her to deny the counterplay yea

[gilded mason]

Specialized cc

Maybe use another dmg dealer to lower enemy hp then use her to finish

[graceful cradle]

tbh it's uniquely cleave that can't really use her

which is kinda funny ngl

[gilded mason]

Yeh she just a weird unit

Her s3 ignores shields and cuts hp

Her s2 stuns and aoe stun

Doesnt really work together well

Is she a dps or a cc unit

Then her s1 lets her lifesteal

I am confused

Its like 3 different kits meshed together

[lean mulch]

i think she kinda like a single target bruiser killer that have some extra utils for survivability

her s2 aoe stun only works when she murder someone right?

[graceful cradle]

it's because a lot of her kit feels very inspired by another charater

https://tenor.com/view/epic-seven-navy-captain-landy-ship-gif-11066276395790112274

[gilded mason]

Dark hwayoung from e7 is immune to debuff as well, but her gimmick is protecting teammates, if you attack her teammates she will ult you

[gilded mason]

This one counters and does aoe

She has a gimmick

[lean mulch]

or ssb

[graceful cradle]

So does Liliam on counter

[gilded mason]

She fulfills a specific role

But liliam just weird af

[graceful cradle]

Not really

[lean mulch]

lets wait for ews2026 and see

[ripe kraken]

Next LD might be bruiser lol ld still doesn't have a bruiser

[graceful cradle]

You can tell they wanted to make her a sort of late game carry

That also can answer control

Unfortunately though a late game ST carry is very hard to make work

[gilded mason]

So shes supposed to be a glass cannon?

[graceful cradle]

nope

[gilded mason]

If she glass cannon she cant make it to late

[graceful cradle]

i'm fairly sure she was always intended to be bruiser

[gilded mason]

If tanky build she do no dmg

[graceful cradle]

she has lifesteal on s1

[lean mulch]

I believe she fits right perfectly into bloodbath bulwark

[graceful cradle]

come on now think lol

[gilded mason]

I dont think, im a gacha player

[lean mulch]

when we start our journey here

[glass ruin]

so shes kinda useless in pve right

[gilded mason]

Pretty much

[graceful cradle]

very much so imo

[lean mulch]

our mind has already been stolen

[gilded mason]

If you want ST just use diting

[graceful cradle]

i mean if you looked at her kit pre release

[lean mulch]

i was thinking she might be good in rengo

cause attack buff

[gilded mason]

Neh shes crap

[graceful cradle]

half her kit doesnt work in pve content

maybe at best she's another dps in doki if you didnt have ril speedclears

[gilded mason]

I guess make her bruiser then bring 3 unit to support her

So she dont die

[lean mulch]

Imma requote OG here

[glass ruin]

at least i dont feel bad missing out on her i guess

[gilded mason]

Wheres artiar video

[graceful cradle]

i skipped Massiah i knew i don't play the right playstyle for him so he's useless to me

[glass ruin]

yeah i didnt even bother pulling any lds

[graceful cradle]

yeli i couldnt skip i needed a pve dps

[glass ruin]

i just use rosa for every single content lol

its torture but gets the job done

[lean mulch]

that's like using my left hand for the rest of my life, like sure i don't mind but man it will suck

[glass ruin]

hey its just 3 mins doki and rengo

not that bad

ember trek resets later.. time to go through torture

[outer falcon]

I cba to finish that bullshit

[spice talon]

can save teams at least now

i didnt check if each floor shares a save screen

[outer falcon]

I didn't either

I wonder if that preserves itself through randomization

[lean mulch]

Like how i didn't reroll for lily

so now i am stuck in the limbo

[indigo oyster]

LMAO, bro got an alt after they silence him

[spice talon]

does ember trek change i thought it was only ethernet that randomised elements

maybe the boss order changes?

i forget

[outer falcon]

Ember Trek boss stage order changes iirc

Sharon was hard 12 last time and I don't think she was this time?

[spice talon]

im gonna save a team and see what it looks like on a different floor

we can go back right

to lower floors

[lean mulch]

who??

[outer falcon]

I think so

[charred minnow]

I got 2 pings but cant find em

Wtf

[lean mulch]

here

[indigo oyster]

idk🧑‍🦯

[lean mulch]

and this

[spice talon]

ye it's just the same - looks like this on each floor

gonna have to make notes

[outer falcon]

Pretty good

[spice talon]

no way im gonna remember what boss this team was for next month

[outer falcon]

I noticed they prompt you to confirm if you want to enter a dungeon with gear that differs from your saved formation, also pretty good

[lean mulch]

that looks generic enough for all dungeon

imma be a silly goof and go all in on oboro

[charred minnow]

Make a vid on her

Shes OP

Oboro Liliam replacement

Trust

[lean mulch]

they call me a visionary, just that i have bad eyesight

[gilded mason]

Madness

[outer falcon]

Between that jacket and her sword, she's the most dripped out character in the game

[gilded mason]

You're madnessloid!

[lean mulch]

kaiba

no i am not affiliated to madnessloid

i thought my name makes it very clear

[spice talon]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676483

[lean mulch]

i do not associate with madnessloid nor any loid for that matters

[outer falcon]

Change your name to Sanitydoil

[lean mulch]

i do not condone any action that they have done in the chat

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[charred minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/kenobi-not-the-droids-gif-20035825

[lean mulch]

but i do heard he have a dig bick

[graceful juniper]

Ember trek are easier...can use xiada till like floor 30 hard,then vs another heroes,the dot comp just better

[lean mulch]

asian with a dig bick, called it SeanD

[gilded mason]

I heard madnessloid is a chump

Got his ass banned

[glass ruin]

yea just takes time

btw, anyone here that does <2min aurora?

[indigo oyster]

Shame on him

https://tenor.com/view/walk-of-shame-got-shameful-gif-17056909

[half lodge]

[spice talon]

uh oh

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/dorothy-nikke-doro-gif-7509545823082567005

[graceful juniper]

Maybe after 1 year lmao....but i think i see 1 min run with diting and dinah,idk the rest of team but looks hard to replicate

[outer falcon]

He's working on his Rengo clear

[glass ruin]

yea im looking at those

was wondering if supernova is a must on lingluo

[spice talon]

can he help me

[outer falcon]

Nope

[inland chasm]

Its hiding time

[minor rover]

uh oh

[minor rover]

u do not want to be a silly goof in this situation trust

[outer falcon]

Listen, when I finally make a Rengo team and get my ons bw sr count, and I finish latticing literally every other SR, I'm gonna make her shine...

[tribal osprey]

Bro that’s so easy you can use all srs on that

[marsh topaz]

oh? borgne enjoyer?

[spice talon]

im definitely gonna have to farm some bloodbath on the next 2x

[outer falcon]

🙂‍↔️ that's for Oboro (I do have a p4 Borgne I should look into)

[marsh topaz]

wtf

P4?

GIVE

[tribal osprey]

Exactly. Stop this silly nonsense that rengo is too hard they really need to buff him frfr

[spice talon]

bleed and oboro is the secret the rengo

[outer falcon]

I've been extremely ||un||lucky

[spice talon]

i believe

[wicked quiver]

is Oboro actually good now? I haven't been able to keep up with the buffs yet

[outer falcon]

No she's still a meme, I just think she's a top 3 unit in terms of visual design

[wicked quiver]

That's fair, she does look really cool

kind of gives me blood blade karin vibes from E7

[ripe kraken]

@lean mulch

[marsh topaz]

u just cant see the vision

hand over those dupes

i could commit life sentence worthy acts for a p4 borgne

[outer falcon]

I do see it, I just also see his smug ass face every time instead of a Lily or a Mio, and I rage

[marsh topaz]

who cares about those brats

when borgne the almighty is right there

[outer falcon]

Bro is going to strip me to victory one whale prayer at a time

[zinc bronze]

I got hoyan and holden dupe

Where's my tiamat

[marsh topaz]

hush!

[marsh topaz]

wait for the selector

thats what im doing

[glass ruin]

time to select my 5th helkid

[zinc bronze]

Yeah same, hopefully it doesn't require much summons

[marsh topaz]

400 summons have fun

i hope its like 100

[zinc bronze]

Maybe it's the x40 one like for beginners cope

[glass ruin]

not introducing it with the liliam release is stupid

[zinc bronze]

Lots of people are gonna be pissed that's for sure

[marsh topaz]

omg pleaseee

[zinc bronze]

Especially people who are not active here and reddit

[marsh topaz]

ppl (me) are already pissed where is our reset event

[zinc bronze]

It's a whale event, you get points for every dollar you spend like the veronica one at launch

[marsh topaz]

fun

[zinc bronze]

Just double down on pissing off every player

[lean mulch]

Here our great lord was here, hi I mean no harm

and I am no way affiliated to a certain person who got terminated in this chat

[half lodge]

And tbh i thought i AM the biggest crybaby on this discord but after reading today so many criying posts about Lilliam i was unfortunately wrong

[mental mural]

Elaborate

[left snow]

you seem like one of the few functional human beings on this discord

[spice talon]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-curious-the-office-gif-13908704

[marsh topaz]

can someone post their server's Apate anisync clears?

i'm trying to find ideas. im on europe

[lean mulch]

APT APT APT APT APT

sorry i am no use, i just wanted to say APT APT

and for those crying about Liliam, it coulda been much worse

you could have been knocked down by a car when you cross the road

[graceful cradle]

Like i said in general I much rather she releases underwhelming than overwhelming

All she needs is a few number tweaks with a kit like that

But if we had to live through 2 months of her being a must ban/first pick, seeing her in every single Arena and GW def that shit would have been awful

Cuz with her kit there wasn't going to be a lot of ways to actually address her either

[spring yarrow]

it's a marathon after all fellas

liliam will get better as time passes

[half lodge]

of course the biggest problem is the perception you can safely buff character to the balanced state and peopel would be happy
but if charcater is overperfoming and you nerf them into balanced state despite having the same result community thinks you are 💀

and its not even exclusive to gacha games

[graceful cradle]

Yup absolutely

[graceful cradle]

I never know if this is sarcasm anymore lol

But in this case yes this is one situation where I'll absolutely defend XD cuz lemme tell you dealing with this bs in E7 rn

[spring yarrow]

a mixture. Poking some fun at that statement but she will get better overtime.

[graceful cradle]

When some of these characters clearly did not get much testing before release and are so overbearing you have no choice but to permaban and pray you can survive the previous horrors you couldn't let out of the cage

[spring yarrow]

Some players missing the forest for the trees

[graceful cradle]

That's a shit situation

[graceful cradle]

Absolutely

Right now in Epic Seven, turn 2 is just getting ran down

There's so many things they've release or buffed over the year that makes it extremely hard to play right now even at the highest levels. The most known turn 2 content creator is now playing Aggro to climb that's how cooked it is. I'm playing ER to spend less time malding to that, not experience it in two different places at the same time lmao

[zinc bronze]

Hoyan on cage sucks ass

[sudden wedge]

sold his account

[graceful juniper]

[outer falcon]

Lmfao

[mental mural]

Been moving with high iq ever since he stopped sucking jack

[outer falcon]

I'm not gonna lie fellas I kinda like Cage Fight

[lean mulch]

oboro might be stupid guys, in a good way

[outer falcon]

How so

[undone vortex]

did u get banned lol

ona. sus alt

[lean mulch]

doing test now

[lean mulch]

I am in no way affiliated to whoever that got banned here today, I am a new man new person new memes

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/suspicious-weird-cardi-b-blue-hair-gif-18979697

[lean mulch]

Mine still 5* so i can't tank Aurora inferno but I tried her in cage rumble and her stack seem to not have a limit. Maybe she just a cage rumble unit but hey boy gonna science

plus i think there's a visual bug that makes her battlewill procs look ultimately silly

[spice talon]

isnt 187k damage good

it seems pretty good

is that the bleed damage?

[undone vortex]

u cookin

that's a lot of bleed

[spice talon]

i just dumped all my puples in to nilu but oboro might be next

[undone vortex]

still needa raise sania and mizuki before nilu qq

a reset event would be nice as gvg compensation

[spice talon]

i did sania to 5/5/5 when they announced liliam wasnt expecting an SR

got nilu at 4/5/5 atm just need one from an event

then idk maybe red kaz

or oboro if this clown ever answers

[undone vortex]

i no longer have much use for red kaz

tbh

i 415 her and just only used her in like Ethernet and dreamscape

[spice talon]

ye thats all i really use her for but at this point i'd just be sitting them on

all the SR i use are skilled up now

maybe i'll save up 12 and throw away the rest on niche shit

[undone vortex]

still have more SRs I need level

I need 3 more for obol and I wanna level shield rin too

[outer falcon]

Bro actually cooked pretty hard

That's neat

[mental mural]

What did bro do?

[open fable]

Ping jack alot

Bruh am I dreaming but I see people defending the 30percent rev nerf into complaint rta matches are too long now

[tribal osprey]

Who would have thought that when you kill the thing that speeds up matches that matches gets longer

[mental mural]

I've pinged that traitor a ton
Nothing ever happened cuz he's always sleeping

[open fable]

Well some people don't think

I think the new LD is just okay. 500 multi is kinda just decent. Wish the hp seal was a debuff that can't be cleansed

@left snow you can cleanse the hp seal right?

Cause if you can it works in tandem just slowly whittling down the hp but idk read something about it being cleanse

[indigo oyster]

U can counter the hp seal with amber

[graceful juniper]

Its not really cleanse...its more like amber give you revive like state,or get revived remove it

[bold anchor]

@marsh topaz I was wondering if I could see your Borgne, was curious to see what other fellow Borgne lovers are doing matrix effect and shell wise.

Also wanted to know where you like to use him. I've been trying to get him to work in aurora inferno.

[marsh topaz]

I'm swapping to jackal guard build

[marsh topaz]

ah he wont be any useful in aurora

borgne is a garbage pve unit

only in aoe content like ember trek stuff he is useful

[bold anchor]

I'm trying to make him work cause I love him but haven't been sure what to build on him shell/matrix effect wise. I got him on count ATM too, but was considering doing golden lion onslaught/swiftrush/swiftraid since his clears usually take a while. That and attack and speed is all that really matters to him.

[marsh topaz]

that looks so cope man just use a diting

borgne is purely pvp

ive seen barcode trying him on nico i was chuckling so hard

he doesnt belong there 😭

[zinc bronze]

How is he against meta drafts?

[marsh topaz]

count build is hot garbage, everyone ive faced so far was a bruiser mirror

luckily i just got the desired jackal guard

swapped to my bloodbath buils

with this he should be able to somewhat take on meta bruisers

shell passive is defense% currently so my atk wouldve been 4.2k if i had the right passive

[zinc bronze]

Just saw this lying on my inventory, I'm gonna fully build him now

I'll prolly go 151 for now

Don't have really much options when switching to bruiser, I only have holden and mizuki

[marsh topaz]

yooooo

welcome to the club

[marsh topaz]

them + borgne and yeli should be fine i guess

until high masters

[zinc bronze]

I'm fine sitting at low masters

I really wanted to build him, I 6 starred him

Like 2 weeks ago

Also someone posted this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Etheria_Restart/comments/1mdy2z6/borgne_bible_for_all_my_fellow_borgne_enjoyers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[marsh topaz]

all must spread his almightiness over the ladder

[marsh topaz]

yeah that someone might be me

lmao

[open fable]

[zinc bronze]

LOL

[marsh topaz]

theres like 6 borgne players out there

[zinc bronze]

Make it 7

Just wait for the buffs

[marsh topaz]

[marsh topaz]

he needs a small fix

his s3 needs to be changed, the extra hit on kill feature is so useless

they have to be like 15k hp 1k def for u to properly proc that lmao

[wary eagle]

kokushibo put yall on the borgne jackal build huh

[marsh topaz]

who even is that

[wary eagle]

the best borgne

the 🐐

[marsh topaz]

really?

[wary eagle]

yes

[marsh topaz]

does he have a yt

or any social media

[wary eagle]

does a goat need social media

[marsh topaz]

cuz theres literally 0 borgne content out there

[marsh topaz]

yes, in order to spread his highness' fame

[zinc bronze]

Nah lets gate keep it so we dont get counterpicked

[ripe kraken]

What are borgne skill ups

[marsh topaz]

max s2 > lvl4 s3 > lvl4 s1

[marsh topaz]

yeah u counter urself by picking borgne already dude 😭

okay for anyone interested!!!!

when u finish anisync normal u get 6281 ember trek currencies

[zinc bronze]

Im also stacking my trek currencies

[marsh topaz]

the dopamine

[graceful juniper]

Liliam rengo with bloodbath

[left snow]

very based

book a flight to china to convince jack to buff borgne

[ripe kraken]

||I will whatsapp video call him and say buff holden in fact I dont even need to call for that||

[open fable]

i cant find a damn bulwark bb smith jackle for lilith

💀

bug leak the sauce for Lilith tldr

[left snow]

lilith feels like she dropped a tier

after lilliams release

[open fable]

just finished Holden 5/5/1

next is Sania and Mizuki

maybe i lattice rahu next and see

[cedar aspen]

circ55 has been warned

Reason: Spam

[open fable]

[left snow]

[open fable]

i might swap to standard i guess

not enough gears for pure tank down 💀

[marsh topaz]

do u think chiaki is worth building? her not having any form of cleanse bothers me but healers are always contested

maybe next RGB is a healer?

[left snow]

ye

[marsh topaz]

alr

[marsh topaz]

ah also what matrix effects for mizuki? im thinking unbreakable bloodbath

[half lodge]

And from your perspective do liliam needs a buff bugfixplease

Or not? Because she already has some clear defined role theoritcally she is bis when somebody pick full CC team?

[turbid ridge]

we had Fuqio not long ago dont think we see a healer again so soon

maybe a SR unit that can cleanse

[left snow]

nah she is good

people just build her like monkeys

[half lodge]

I cant from the guys in another threads that are constantly pinging chinese devs XDDDD probably now even outside of the work hours

I cant XDDDDDDD

Why are people like that

[tribal osprey]

Are the Chinese devs even here?

[orchid needle]

how important is bulwark

[half lodge]

I AM the chinese devs

[open fable]

HOLY CANCER

[left snow]

wait

we cant imprint an inferno shell to another inferno shell ?

why

[open fable]

GUYS

Yeli S3 does 5 hits?

or does rev count as extra hit for Khloros debuff?

yeah rev is considered indiviual hits

[graceful cradle]

She might not have cleanse but she does have DR and that's also hard to get currently

Outside bb ofc

[tribal osprey]

So kloros with rev good?

[twilit vault]

did you check that the selected shell is unlocked and not equipped in any pve or pvp loadout

[open fable]

good with yeli on rev

[twilit vault]

oh wait maybe it's the level thing, dont think you can imprint anything onto a level 40 shell as the selected shell needs to be higher level than the target

[left snow]

yeah

oh wait

[twilit vault]

but you cant be higher than 40

[left snow]

anybody knows how to unlock hidden ember trek stage ?

[left snow]

man

people are so dumb

kinda getting tired of being on this discord

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

red chiaki or mizuki

[left snow]

mizuki is way better

red chiaki is a cope pick for those who cant draft

if you are bad enough red chiaki can be a good raise

assuming you int your draft 24/7

[indigo oyster]

im so bad at drafting
maybe mizuki since i already raise her to like almost 6* just need to latticed

[left snow]

all you have to do is

not first pick lingluo

and if you are 2nd picking

pick double healer

its that simple

[indigo oyster]

since i now bench tiamat maybe thats a good idea

[left snow]

ban protect your healer if you are first picking

in a bruiser mirror

if you are second picking

pick 2 of the lingluo/fuqui/sania

then ban protect a bruiser/lilliam

[indigo oyster]

what if i protect doki

my doki is ahh anyway

no 3 eff res

[left snow]

you cant ban protect doki if you are first picking

and your opponent is good

if you are second picking it might happen

[indigo oyster]

a cope between if my opponent have doki or not

[left snow]

well if it works it works

[indigo oyster]

you'll be seeing me in top 100 in Season 10

[left snow]

season 1*

[indigo oyster]

not me , will be paul

maybe top 500

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[left snow]

nah you will get top 3

i will vacate a spot for you

[indigo oyster]

with my 30 crit holden and rahu

[left snow]

better than my rahu

sitting at bench 4* level 1

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[indigo oyster]

^ you'll build him soon

[left snow]

i dont even know if i actually have rahu

need to check

[solid orchid]

well we have something in common

[marsh topaz]

must have unplayable otherwise

into cc comps if u get the s3 out its pretty much a win from there

cuz all it takes is 1 holden counter/rahu fua to kill

[left snow]

cc feels

downright unplayable

funny it went from being top tier team to

unplayable after 1 character released

[marsh topaz]

lol even without liliam i barely struggle into them now

[half lodge]

CC is fundamentally the most broken playstyle and in its current form shouldnt be vialable

CC as stacking CC characters

Taking away complete agency from the opposing player and just letting him look at the screen because he wont take even a single turn

[gilded mason]

Etheria revenue for july 2m

https://revenue.ennead.cc/

Oof

[left snow]

is about what we expected

like not sure what do you mean by "oof"

[gilded mason]

I didnt expect 2m tbh

[left snow]

its more than what i expected actually

[gilded mason]

I expected like 4m

[left snow]

i was expecting 1 m

[indigo oyster]

expected tho

[gilded mason]

Holy shit

[indigo oyster]

yeah lol

[left snow]

no offense but i have to be fully offensiv here

are you clueless

[gilded mason]

Yes

[left snow]

epic seven makes less than 2m outside of anni

and its a much more casual friendly game

[gilded mason]

Epic seven is 7 years old

[left snow]

its also not made my braindead devs

who are the most anti casual devs ever

[gilded mason]

Usually first 3 months after release a game should have pretty strong revenue

[indigo oyster]

i was guessing between 2m-2.5m because the honeymoon phase is over and the current state of the game lol

[left snow]

i was expecting 1m-1.5m

[open fable]

was hoping it was 1m

[indigo oyster]

usually revenue are always halves

[left snow]

there is nothing to spend in this game

like

nothing is worth the money

[open fable]

@left snow prob the most rewarding event boosted sales?

and we did have 3 xiada event

and summer packs

[marsh topaz]

a naked borgne skin would be worth the money

[left snow]

seems like people just like suffering and "hardcore" gacha game

[open fable]

well next month time to see since its a fresh start

[left snow]

cause even in this game where nothing is worth your money

no skins, no pulls etc

people are still spending

[marsh topaz]

well spending is fun

[twilit vault]

it's not surprising because many big whales quit and there's not as much need for progression item purchases as in the first month

[marsh topaz]

imagine going on a shopping spree with 1k bucks

[gilded mason]

[open fable]

well they might downsize their team if this continunes

[left snow]

2 million is really more than it should be

[open fable]

i think they said it was a big team behind it?

[left snow]

you mean unsubscribing from chat gpt + ?

[open fable]

not sure

@left snow well the volkin vid or something showed their office

or gachasmack i forgot or was it seii

[gilded mason]

Looking at vlogs from when ccs visited XD, they had like an entire floor working on etheria lol

[open fable]

iirc they said the team behind etheria was the biggest in XD

[gilded mason]

Looks like several dozens of people

[left snow]

they must really trust their CN launch

[gilded mason]

Damn

[open fable]

well if it continue downward i can see downsizing

[left snow]

if that the case

[open fable]

[gilded mason]

They really had faith in etheria huh

[left snow]

here people are really anticipating the launch

but yeah

[gilded mason]

Management.must be drunk

[left snow]

i didnt expect them to put their faith in CN launch

[twilit vault]

we were the beta test for the actual market

[gilded mason]

I dunno how well this game will even do in cn

[twilit vault]

in their eyes

[open fable]

man bug since when your so doomposties

[spice talon]

surely rev is down because there's nothing to buy as well

[gilded mason]

He got bugs

[spice talon]

i spent like 500 and now i'm like hello do you want my money or not sell me stuff

[gilded mason]

What do you wanna buy

Lattices?

[left snow]

im always like this

[spice talon]

idk stuff

[left snow]

i just swap my mood

[gilded mason]

I told them to put a vip system in

[left snow]

[spice talon]

theres just nothing

[gilded mason]

Sell some rgb selectors

[twilit vault]

instructions unclear, best we can do is 50 dollar lattice packs

[gilded mason]

Just go full p2w

[left snow]

funny thing is

seems like people are actually buying these

otherwise this wouldnt get to 2m

[open fable]

ive been finding that they have been releasing alot more lattice packs personally

[gilded mason]

They know revenue is down so

Lattice pack fo everyone!

[left snow]

its probably 50% of etherias revenue

unless people are buying recolours

[open fable]

WELL

i see alot of recolours

users

[twilit vault]

theyll probably also continue to release characters like Nahor who are incapable of performing without at least 8 lattices invested into them

definitely more likely than getting another Freya or something

[gilded mason]

People buy recolors

But honestly

They would.make more selling actual skins

Entire game is a mess

[half lodge]

Its a marathon not a mess

[left snow]

wouldnt be surprised if CN release gets actual skins

but we get recolours

[half lodge]

And despite you having fun from the revenue its still more money than needed to improve and let the game thrive

Some non gacha companies would kill for this revenue let's say everymotnu

You are just completly manipulated by how much money a gamecompany needs to continue service

The only sad thing that we slowly saw last month how many even active people were quting

[gilded mason]

Service is one thing

But they may not make more future content if game doesnt make $$$ to live up to management expectations

[half lodge]

Sword of convalaria isbnot even 1 mln

[gilded mason]

There was new soc content recently right?

Then perhaps etheria will be around for a while more

[indigo oyster]

i though c already tell jack this skin thing

and they had new designer

[gilded mason]

Skins are like basic though

[left snow]

chat gpt free plan upgraded to +

[gilded mason]

Did they not realize until now

[open fable]

prob just have to see if we have new events and what nots

[gilded mason]

The fact that we have to tell them "hey devs give us skins"

Like bruh really?

[indigo oyster]

lol

[ripe kraken]

Ye deserved

[twilit vault]

Jack when someone makes an eminently reasonable and obvious suggestion:

https://tenor.com/view/weebay-thewire-damn-gif-7324034

[open fable]

anyone knows if golden lion dmg is multi or addi?

[orchid needle]

If it released as it was when we got it it would've gotten so much more shit from the cn community, theyre notorious for holding grudges against developers if their games had a shitty launch

Not to mention the lack of communication for more than a month, barely any news about new things or upcoming things except maybe a trailer the day before a banner release, yeah nah this game would've been dead in a ditch in cn after the first month

[outer falcon]

6 times I rolled a 1 in the dice board game I'm sure the RNG will even out for me in the end though...

[open fable]

@orchid needle funny seeing you here in eos thread

[orchid needle]

[graceful cradle]

e7 averages 3.5. it was only less than 2 mil the last couple of months leading up to the anni

[twilit vault]

it's ok you only need one custom dice

then you use that custom dice to always hit another custom dice tile

= stonks

[glass ruin]

im so lazy to set a team for cage rumble

sigh

[open fable]

you only need to set it once tho

then save formation

god send qol

[spice talon]

half my shit has no modules still

doomed to be rank A forever

[glass ruin]

yeah that setting it once hurts me

[spice talon]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-chandler-joey-good-job-great-job-gif-14365146578827875022

[outer falcon]

Games like E7 have barely any opex and they're not worried about recouping dev costs anymore though

[ripe kraken]

But what about players like this

Somewhere this needs to stop

[outer falcon]

There are so many of these everywhere and I just don't get it

[ripe kraken]

New gen didn't play pvp gacha much btw

For some people etheria is their first pvp gacha

[orchid needle]

Also a lot of ppl dont care to spend time looking into everything, thats why ccs and prydwen exist

They have a lot better things to do

The average player just hops on, autobattles, maybe does some of the events, then hops off

[twilit vault]

the team formation save with all the modules & shells now works for that mode too

only need to optimize once

[brave fable]

thats completely fine but when these people complain about them getting baited to pull a character when they didnt put any effort to at least read the kit is kinda disingenuous

[zinc bronze]

When will they inflate reconfig chips man

[left snow]

fr

only currency that bottlenecks me now

30m+ coins

20m+ data

[zinc bronze]

with all the RNG for passives, 500-700 per max refresh is not enough

[left snow]

0 chips

[zinc bronze]

FR

This shit is overpriced as hell

100 reconfig chips vs. 1 gold lattice u choose

[orchid needle]

Well to be fair her kit on paper sounds insane

[brave fable]

yah but do you see what are the complaints are about her?

[orchid needle]

I mean yeah but ppl just read her kit and listen to ccs

Don't forget characters are the only new content to get excited about in this game and what ppl save pulls and lattice for

Not to mention she looks cool

[pearl knot]

This feels like they forgot a 0 for the price

[brave fable]

very true but when people STILL pull and they complain because it doesnt fit their narrative or what they THOUGHT it could be used for, doesnt mean its a bad unit lol

its like what someone said in this server, person expects apple and get mad when they get an orange

[lean mulch]

someone say mad?

wait not me

[glass ruin]

i wish they rewarded module coins somewhere

[left snow]

rta is insanely cringe man

rev nerfs really killed the meta

lilliam was a mistake

wish they didnt release her or at least didnt nerf rev

[vital arrow]

Preach

Ling/gsania every game makes me want to throw up

[left snow]

cc doest even beat bruisers anymore

what kind of cringe is this

[zinc bronze]

kinda hard drafting standard speed cleave as I climb ngl

why am I drafting against the same 3-4 people

[lean mulch]

but hey look new update!

(not my screenshot credit to OP from reddit)

[zinc bronze]

That's kinda expected for every niche gacha game ig

[turbid ridge]

XD we had a good thing going on pre patch. All styles were viable and counterd each other.

more or less

[left snow]

yeah

like legit

Any plans of wising up and nerfing bloodbath this season or do we have to endure it for the entirety of season 1 ?

Meta is extremely garbage atm and nothing is playable at high elo except bruiser.

Literally all the top 3 players agree on the fact that this season is not sustainable at this rate.

We need actual good bruiser counter units released to save the season or just nerf this bloodbath to make it cleavable.

CC used to "counter" bruisers with rev around but now that cleave is out of the picture everybody stacks eff res, not to mention release of Lilliam completely destroys cc teams as well. There is no counterplay to Bruiser play style atm and its basically a gear & lattice check assuming both players are human and dont int the draft.

TLDR nothing is viable at the high level except bruisers or some sort of standart draft that relies on bruisers. As a player who was rank 1 in SW for several seasons this is the worst meta I have ever experienced in this genre and nothing comes close

here is my take

funny thing is

pre patch

it was one of the, if not the best meta ive experienced in the genre

now it is by far the worst

and thats not an hyperbole

they need to fix bloodbath asap

[zinc bronze]

But hey, now tournaments won't end in 10 seconds atleast

[left snow]

or release some counters to this thing

[turbid ridge]

well i aint waiting 55 days for a maybe fix

[outer falcon]

That was a good thing though!

[left snow]

im gonna take a break from rta if they dont fix it

maybe go back to SW

[zinc bronze]

Not for the running ads for XD tho

[outer falcon]

Some of these Tekken units are really fun

Not that I've gotten any besides 2 of the RGB nat4s after 400 fucking scrolls 😄

[half lodge]

Can you tell US a funny anegdote about any memorable sw meta bugfixplease

[turbid ridge]

55% dmg reduction is wild. How they came up with this. Even if it was 20% everyone would call it broken w ith no cd and unlimited trigger

[outer falcon]

I did finally get Oliver though

[zinc bronze]

We need a true damage unit rn to counter BB

[left snow]

bb for some unknown reason

reduces true damage

[turbid ridge]

one unit wont change anything

[left snow]

its retarded

they removed every bit of skill from rta

its all lattice and gear check atm

truly embracing the

"lul gacha game just pay 0 skill"

[outer falcon]

And here I was finally branching out of copy-paste cleave drafting into standard

[left snow]

it can work

if you play like faker

and your opponents play like a demented old man in a coma

[zinc bronze]

make something like pre nerf hwayoung or smth

[left snow]

you have no idea how some of these sim battles are going

[turbid ridge]

the fact taht dps units use bb rly anoye me. Guess a class restriction would have been not bad afterall

[left snow]

you can literally misplay every single turn

completely int the draft

and almost not lose

to cleave

[zinc bronze]

yeah, built my units around speed cleave and it's not fun anymore

[left snow]

can we make heinrich and tsu heal block a yellow debuff

so it cant be cleansed

would legit fix the meta

[outer falcon]

Tsu heal blocks?? Have I been smoking crack?

[zinc bronze]

Would straze's kit from e7 counter BB units in this game?

[left snow]

maybe he doesnt

cause im like

[outer falcon]

Oh Tsutomu?

[left snow]

yeah

[outer falcon]

I assumed you meant my bae

Forgot about Tsutomu

[lean mulch]

good ol daddy straze

[left snow]

everybodies bae

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-10391955707070564011

that being said

[outer falcon]

[left snow]

im seriously considering to stop playing rta this season

and if im not playing rta im not playing this game

[brave fable]

they got 3 weeks to design 2 rgb's

[left snow]

they should just nerf bloodbath

55% to 40% or something

[brave fable]

either 2x injury unit

[left snow]

and problem is fixed

[brave fable]

or we are doomed

i will take 1 injury unit and a cleanser

[left snow]

a game takes as long as my que times

and i sometimes am in que for 3 hours

[turbid ridge]

forget cleanser bruiser aint need more support XD

[outer falcon]

The issue with committing to inter-season balancing is that if you're dumb as hell you fuck your whole game

[left snow]

meta can also be fixed by

nerfing the following characters

[outer falcon]

Wait I've got it

[left snow]

Holden, doki, rahu, mizuk, tiamat, lingluo, sania ,fuqui

nerf them all

[outer falcon]

EMERGENCY HOTFIX: Bloodbath has been bugged this whole time everyone, reducing DMG reduction to 25% as was intended on release, we always meant for it to be this way, believe us

[brave fable]

if you nerf all the standard picks we are doomed

[left snow]

like how did they even manage to mess up this bad

i was very impressed with season 0's meta

[turbid ridge]

eihter reduce bb to 25% or keep it at 55% but triggers 1-2 times only every 2 tunr

[left snow]

e7 never had good rta in 7 years

summoners war had some good seasons

but it took some time

for them to achieve that level of quality

they achieved it season 0

[turbid ridge]

well who can we blame for the balance

[left snow]

and then went back 10 years

[turbid ridge]

fucking bronze palyers

[outer falcon]

Rev annoyed me on a conceptual level but on a meta level I don't think anyone can argue with you

[left snow]

like holy shit

like this games season 0 was better than any e7 season ever

[brave fable]

at least the bronze players can get out now

[turbid ridge]

even some CC cry about it when they dont even reach mythic

[left snow]

and was rivaling goated sw seasons

now its worse than any e7 and sw season ever

[zinc bronze]

flashback to e7 golden boys meta

[spring yarrow]

the masses complained, CCs amplified it and put devs on spot, rev nerfed

[turbid ridge]

and dont get me started on bruiser players who begged for rev nerf. How you lsoe vs rev as a bruiser

[spring yarrow]

now complaints about T2

[left snow]

the inters who had op as hell accounts last season but couldnt climb higher due to sucking at the game

can now climb

cause there is no skill expression left in rta

[mental mural]

Elaborate

[brave fable]

we got caught in the crossfire between the bronzies and rev

[latent iron]

i think top-10 player was complaining about rev as bruiser while there were like 2 cleave players in top-10 lmao

[left snow]

nobody in complained about bruiser in top 10 last season

and kekker was playing cc

there was only 1 cleave