inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[ripe kraken]

Maybe since it's ews they won't lmao

Another reason to escape from playerbase

[left snow]

I think there is a beyontin team too

[ripe kraken]

Ye but dorothy doesn't revive

She has life leech tho

[left snow]

yeli-linglou-lily-beyontin

[ripe kraken]

Ah yeli

[left snow]

massiah also works

cause of invul

you need some cracked gear tho

[ripe kraken]

Can beyontin be replaced with dorothy

[left snow]

probably not

cause she also revives

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

Sadge

[left snow]

if yeli/mass gets 1 tapped randomly

also she reduces cooldown of lingluo generally

which is more heals and immunity

[indigo oyster]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1394592983084564580

[graceful juniper]

alright bois....flat attack suck ass is official

[indigo oyster]

this isnt the one im looking for

[left snow]

I will play around with the beyontin team

maybe diting can work

If you replace lily with doki

but If you have doki

might as well just use fuqui + doki combo

and just chill

[glass ruin]

btw, what do ppl aim for in lighthouse passives

2nd slot is speed or

[ripe kraken]

Blood bath

Bramble

[surreal bobcat]

depends who is using the lighthouse but mostly speed

[glass ruin]

actually right theres like nothing much other tha speed

rolled these 3 lmao i guess it goes on a healer

[left snow]

For pvp ?

I mean i would say speed regardless

[glass ruin]

yea

[left snow]

[glass ruin]

ok, i need rengo to drop me 7 lighthouses now

and i can stop farming

[left snow]

you probably dont need that many

there are amber, jackal, law of silence, codex and artisan users

depending on setup

[glass ruin]

all i got is this

[indigo oyster]

gimme that wtf

klamdklamdaskmdkasld

[left snow]

thats not good for the team, you either want bloodbath bullwark

or swiftrush bullwark

I mean bruiser team has many different setups

[glass ruin]

pls tell rengo that for me

[left snow]

you can probably make that work

like even law of silence is great

on this team

depending on the setup

[indigo oyster]

i got yeli at home

a free yeli infact

[glass ruin]

i cant wait for rosa to get the

def break and self cleanse buffs to her kit

and maybe more followups

[left snow]

uh yeah

I mean you are done with pve pretty much

[ripe kraken]

The better yeli no rng

[left snow]

from now on its all pvp investments for you

[glass ruin]

yea

18 lattices to spend

[surreal bobcat]

etheria would never

[left snow]

what do you have for your bruiser team ?

in your roster

[indigo oyster]

bro hoarding wtf

[glass ruin]

helkid is at 4 dupes

dont ask me how

[indigo oyster]

no tiamat? ig lilith can be u hp bruiser

[glass ruin]

nope no luck

[left snow]

lilith is better than tiamat

like almost all the time

but yeah i think you are missing the good unts

[indigo oyster]

bench until i have enough to up her

[left snow]

I think rahu is the worst option for the team

way worse than tia, holden and lilith

you are going to need to ban protect lilith alot

[indigo oyster]

aint ban protection in plat

[left snow]

oh

[indigo oyster]

i do like 3 summit arena and the rest in fearless lol

[tribal osprey]

Would fuqiu doki yeli be fine for rengo? Or would the double light be an issue

[indigo oyster]

that y u run doki on bb iirc from paul runs

[glass ruin]

yea no tiamat/doki hurts

[indigo oyster]

mb/mb not

[glass ruin]

when does my

4 dupe helkid shine

[left snow]

not right now

he isn't good really very much of a flex pick

good vs lilith thats about it

[glass ruin]

rip

[left snow]

i think you are fine tho

[glass ruin]

does heinrich fit in bruiser teams

or viper any day

[left snow]

heinrich can be good in mirror matchup but ive never tried it

wait

you got hoyan

she is also amazing

[glass ruin]

i have all the cleaver units

lmao

[left snow]

she is good in bruiser team

actually hard counters tiamat

hoyan ban protect in a bruiser mirror vs tiamat is an auto win

[ripe kraken]

Did ur friend send the gear of the team

Of inferno rengo

[left snow]

he is probably sleeping

[ripe kraken]

Oh

I will ask tomorrow

[glass ruin]

is she lattice hungry

[left snow]

1-2-5

[ripe kraken]

Yes

Only S2 and S3 needed

U can ignore S1

[left snow]

she is easy to gear tho

[ripe kraken]

Completely

[glass ruin]

okay

[left snow]

you only need a law of silence with furyedge

put her on bloodbath-furyedge

[ripe kraken]

Hmm blood bath hoyan

That might survive even massiah ult

[left snow]

she does

well

[ripe kraken]

But he becomes in invincible anyway so her countering him is kinda ass still

[left snow]

[ripe kraken]

I will do that after my xiada max s3 is done

Just got her today maxed the s2

[indigo oyster]

what if i stun her

[left snow]

law of silence

[glass ruin]

seems easy

[left snow]

seen her 1 tap bloodbath tiamats from max hp

[glass ruin]

farm hoyan for hoyan gear?

[left snow]

you probably already have a law of silence with furyedge

other matrixes doesnt matter

[ripe kraken]

Ye

[left snow]

you are only missing holden and doki

who are important

[glass ruin]

u are right

[left snow]

they actually quite important

but its what it is

[indigo oyster]

u sure u cant stun?

[ripe kraken]

Actually he can harvest also

[left snow]

I've seen holdens 1 shot a massiah with his s2

[ripe kraken]

Since harvest is 8 piece lmao

[left snow]

can also 1 shot a kloss with his s1 counter

[drowsy blaze]

Hi what's the Doki fuqui rengo team? Is it better or faster or more stable than the full bb viper/Sania/vice team?

[glass ruin]

i should have pulled holden huh

[ripe kraken]

I will do blood bath harvest and furyedge

[tribal osprey]

As someone that has 7 inferno revelations, I can safely say…. No

Not even one law of silence inferno

[left snow]

its ok

[drowsy blaze]

Is furyedge better than harvest on bb hoyan?

[left snow]

he is great but hard to build anyway

probably the most restrictive unit in bruiser team in terms of build

looks like a good draft for you is

first pick lingluo and go from there

ban protect lilith

2nd pick can be sania/viper depending on what your opponent is picking

[glass ruin]

yeah

[left snow]

you are going to need a very good jackal on your lilith tho

bb-bullwark-swiftsmite

she is going to have to hard carry you

since you got no holden or tia

[drowsy blaze]

What's the full comp for this? And does it need yeli or lily?

[left snow]

the reason why you use fuqui + doki is to not use lily

can't remember the full team probably viper yeli is the rest

[drowsy blaze]

So yeli is necessary? Oh well

[left snow]

shouldnt be

xiada should also work

[drowsy blaze]

What about Rosa?

[indigo oyster]

2 blue might drop the wr

[drowsy blaze]

If not I guess I have to use the Holden comp instead

[indigo oyster]

nvm what i said im brainded just realized 2 yellow also

[glass ruin]

im using rosa in rengo its not fun btw

atk down just makes ur run so bad

[drowsy blaze]

Anyone using the Holden comp in rengo? Is it quite stable?

[left snow]

100% wr

but slooow

holden vice sania

is like

10 minutes

[drowsy blaze]

I wonder if Doki fuqui can speed up that team

[pure junco]

Just level every character

[outer falcon]

Does Khloros still apply his debuff to Sharon?

[mental mural]

Lmao yall are still clinging onto hope
She's milking you dry for the fun of it

[mental mural]

Must useless buff in the game

[outer falcon]

They're also allowed to reserve their opinions until they've understood the subject more thoroughly

[undone vortex]

none of this is allowed

[inland warren]

Is the next patch tomorrow? No patch notes yet?

[left snow]

hoyan is a cheat code in this team

[hexed jay]

maybe in 1-2 weeks

I guess not this week

[inland warren]

Werent they going to release the new event this week? The one with "great rewards"?

[hexed jay]

maybe it doesn't need maintenance

guess we'll see

[mental mural]

Gacha veteran mindset

[glass ruin]

nice making me wanna build her

[wicked quiver]

Who are you replacing for her in Aurora? My runs are like 70% win rate with Yeli, Lily, Valerian, Lingluo, Viper

[left snow]

she is great but not sure if she is a priority for you

i wouldnt touch hoyan until your bruiser team actually starts working

but she is great

would rather use her over rahu 🤷‍♂️

[ionic sonnet]

Finally bro

[wicked quiver]

fake screenshot, not all yellow shells

[left snow]

uh hard to say for that draft

do you have doki

[wicked quiver]

Are you running your healers on eff res, or what? I'd like to start on making bruiser teams

[wicked quiver]

No skill ups or anything but yeah

[left snow]

doki-fuqui-yeli-viper-valerian/lingluo

but you need some serious gear

[wicked quiver]

is fuqui's healing enough to get rid of the aurora shield thing?

[left snow]

with fortismo yes

but if you dont have the gear try

[wicked quiver]

I have a few 3-set fortismo's saved

[left snow]

try replacing lily or valerian with fuqui

but honestly i would just stick to 70% wr team if its fast

[wicked quiver]

It's like 4 min

[left snow]

yes

like 250% eff res

[wicked quiver]

Damn lol

on what sets? Bloodbath on all your healers?

and colossoguard?

I'm a long way from having a bruiser team anyways. Still need to 5* Holden and start skilling him up

[mental mural]

I saw someone say that over a week ago

[outer falcon]

I expected the supposed golden goose event a week ago, they're really fucking up

[ripe kraken]

The new world thing is after infinity train

It's another end game mode

[outer falcon]

Is that what they meant by the event?

[mental mural]

Accurate xd moment

[outer falcon]

Does Clorox apply Keeneye to his damage when triggering his extra s3s btw

[errant dome]

are we ever gonna get targetted banners for existing roster?

i just want to complete my collection but these clowns keep throwing out new heroes

[outer falcon]

They should probably be doing 2 new banners, 2 old banners, 2 new banners, 1 LD banner or something like that on their 3 week cycle

[mental mural]

We should have at least 5 right now

[errant dome]

we need an LD selector

[glass ruin]

noooo

[chrome meteor]

They literally announced it in the last patch notes and gave the specific date

[wicked quiver]

I doubt that'll happen soon

[outer falcon]

They literally did not clearly announce which event was supposed to be the "fix" and also they don't make it clear what is an event and what is recurring PvE content but sure man, you're the genius who figured it all out, thanks for letting me know

[calm marsh]

what xiada battlewill vod?

[outer falcon]

Some Fuqiu testing stream iirc

Should be somewhere near there in the thread

[frozen stone]

How’s the game population so far

[chrome meteor]

They said that the dream event is the event that has increased rewards and will be the most generous event since launch, as well as being an event that is meant to help supplement player resource economy right now.

[graceful cradle]

i just brute force it LOL

[mental mural]

Rate my addiction

[tardy ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[undone vortex]

no gf/10

[ripe kraken]

Black clover mobile alive?

[mental mural]

Its an old ss

[mental mural]

Actually suffered a heart break that year

[mental mural]

Also the devs announced it's termination

Which is why this hurts even more

[ripe kraken]

Ye we know

Soon we know what other game gonna do that as well right

Some survival game

Trying to survive

[chrome meteor]

yall should just try morimens 🙂

gud game

:3

[mental mural]

Im good

[mental mural]

57 minute run

I swear EtheLily Reroll is f2p friendly

[tardy ocean]

Brother, I'm of the mindset now that ER is just a 2019 E7 clone, without any direction or streamline on what to farm first and with what units.

I still don't know how they can have a EWS after only a months time of being released but hey.. what do i know.

[mental mural]

Competing with 2019 e7 💔

[undone vortex]

Jack wants to see revelation spam on the big screen smh

have some compassion

[mental mural]

Jack should enter pvp and stream his matches

[undone vortex]

ermergherd is the support Freya deleting healthbars

🤪 🤪 🤪

gonna be an hour long tour unless the participants get access to dev accounts

[mental mural]

When's the tournament getting stteamed?

[old zephyr]

He only applies the ult debuff if it's what u are asking but he doesn't apply the chainlock

Also was able to clear and auto rengo inferno today this team is kinda 90-100% winrate even with my vice being 5star

I was 50% winrate when I had vice on jackal guard but once I had vice on Darkmoon he could maintain the atk down on the boss all the time

[wicked quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[old zephyr]

Yeah I'll try to get another darkmoon and put on kloss to have her def down and SPD down for 3turns maybe that will SPD up the run too

[wicked quiver]

probably yeah, you can try a codex if you have one

[mental mural]

Wouldn't fuqui be better here?

[glass ruin]

double wind buddy

[mental mural]

???

[errant dome]

im getting idiots roping in RTA

20 weekly wins is a struggle

[wicked quiver]

rengo counters more when you have multiple of the same element

[mental mural]

Is vice light or blue?

[wicked quiver]

light

[swift basin]

Do you mind sharing stats for these units? Any lattices on kloss?

[swift basin]

Thanks! 🙏

[old zephyr]

Diting and vice are max skill max dupe

Lingluo has only s1 max kloss has s3 at lvl2 just to get that 100% on her debuff which is very important might even max that s3 for the cool down too

[old zephyr]

I don't think u can replace lingluo with fuqui cause u need a lot of heals plus double wind element with kloss makes the boss counter more

[glass ruin]

man rengo is a weirdo i can go 5-0 then 1-4

[left snow]

I don't think there is a true 100% wr team on rengo unless you got 5/5 dupe units

for extra damage and consistency

[glass ruin]

i feel like the holden rahu team is 100%

but just takes 10 years

[left snow]

oh well that should be 100% yeah

[errant basalt]

What's that holden rahu team sorry?

[left snow]

my bad

[glass ruin]

i hit this, can sania use this or do they prefer bramble

[left snow]

use amber on sania

[glass ruin]

aite

[left snow]

thats a good lingluo/fuqui piece

[glass ruin]

i forgot the team comp, i think its holden rahu viper sania?

[outer falcon]

that's a crazy piece

[left snow]

although if you aren't running eff res lingluo

its probably just better to run bullwark on her

[glass ruin]

fuqiu piece i guess

[left snow]

i would recommend 50/50 on hoyan and rengo tbh

cause you are going to need a perfect jackal for lilith

[glass ruin]

yeah i just want to farm like 3 lighthouses

and a useful fortissimo for more consistent rengo

[left snow]

whats your wr atm ? like 50% ?

[glass ruin]

like 60-70%

[left snow]

hey thats still pretty good

rosa-viper-lily-sania ?

[glass ruin]

rosa vice lily sania

[left snow]

oh vice makes sense

[glass ruin]

the vice taunt is pretty insane

just prevents him from changing form a lot

[left snow]

yeah

also uh

if you are running vice, you should run amber on him

if you werent already

might make it more consistent

[glass ruin]

he doesnt die tbh

after i put bb on him

[left snow]

of you run bb on him

fair

i was testing without bb on him

[glass ruin]

yeah jackal

[left snow]

hm actually

xiada should also work instead of rosa potentially

[glass ruin]

i would think its better

rosa damage is pathetic lol

[left snow]

yeah xiada has def down and self buffs

she can probably kill adds too along the way lol

[glass ruin]

only thing rosa has is that occasional 0 eff acc speed down

[left snow]

oh yeah you lose out on that if no viper

are you running bloodbath rosa or pure damage ?

[glass ruin]

bloodbath

[left snow]

gonna try to cook a xiada version for people who already raised her

[upbeat breach]

we still dont have any non lily/kloss rengo team?

[left snow]

we got a bunch of non lily rengo teams

doki-fuqui is way better than anything with lily

[glass ruin]

honestly lily is not that insane in rengo

[upbeat breach]

but with kloss right?

[left snow]

in pretty much every content

[left snow]

no

doki is a better lily with fuqui

like literally everywhere

[upbeat breach]

have you even seen the teams that cleared it?

[glass ruin]

the lily kloss ones?

i dont even think they are 60% tbh

[left snow]

most are 10-20%

[upbeat breach]

but there are no other teams in the list, that is the thing

[left snow]

its not even worth farming at tht point

you lose so much stamina

[glass ruin]

i mean the consistent ones are

[upbeat breach]

20% is better than zero lol

[glass ruin]

1. holden/rahu/sania/viper

there's a mia cachi xiada valerian team too

[left snow]

anything with doki-fuqui also works

as it does with any boss

[upbeat breach]

doki+fuckyou+dps+viper or something like that?

[glass ruin]

probably

[left snow]

anything should work like i said

[glass ruin]

if u run water dps, can run vice instead of viper

[upbeat breach]

but how you deal with 2 light?

[glass ruin]

oh right doki is light oops i forgot

[left snow]

you should be able to get away with it

[upbeat breach]

Somethng like this, but with fuckyou instead of sania I ugess

[left snow]

that should work

every day i feel pain for not having doki

[glass ruin]

i summoned perma banner hit pity

got mio dupe

[upbeat breach]

got her day one and havent used her at all

[left snow]

i dont have pre ban when im playing bread

the guy has a doki that traumitizes people

i have to pre ban doki

[glass ruin]

time to release that dark char

maybe its a pvp god

[left snow]

we'll see

if doki goes through the draft

you don't have to worry about 80% of the meta

which is just stupid

doki havers vs not doki havers difference is huge

[glass ruin]

do they nerf chars?

probably not right

[upbeat breach]

I would take having lily since day 1 over doki any day

[old zephyr]

Yeah I saw Rosa killing the ads before the boss making it safe in the long run

[upbeat breach]

Yeah, it works a loot better

but I died lol

I guess I need to skill up either doki or fuck

[left snow]

what team did you try

yeli-viper-doki-fuqui

[upbeat breach]

diting viper doki fuqui

yeli is light

[left snow]

its ok

you will deal so much more damage with yeli

it wouldnt get to that point

[upbeat breach]

I could try, but I dont have her

[left snow]

oh

[upbeat breach]

my acc is cursed

[left snow]

hm

do you have xiada raised ?

[upbeat breach]

nope

Rosa, Massiah and Diting

[pearl knot]

oh shit is that me?

[left snow]

rosa could work

rosa-fuqui-doki-viper

its double blue

[upbeat breach]

went for diting just to be more relaxed about the 4x turns thing

[left snow]

but i can see it working

give it a shot

[upbeat breach]

I will just get doki s3 to 5 and try again

[left snow]

btw

are you running fuqui on fortismo ?

that makes a big difference

[upbeat breach]

I was running her on ling gear

[left snow]

try this

[upbeat breach]

swift+heal+supernova

that was already built

[left snow]

260 speed on doki and fuqui, doki on codex, fuqui on fortismo

[left snow]

for rengo supernova is significantly worse than fortismo

buuut it might work

if you have the stats

250+ speed on fuqui + doki

[upbeat breach]

Yep, it is just what was already built

[left snow]

doki on codex fuqui on supernova

[upbeat breach]

need to change some right pieces to go full hp

[glass ruin]

lmao i was thinking of fortissimo vice + sania

wonder if fortissimo vice does anything

[left snow]

it is actually decent

[upbeat breach]

I think this is the max I can get on her

[left snow]

but i was trying him without bloodbath

so amber was a must

[left snow]

that might be good enough

[glass ruin]

i was trying artisan and like 2k+ def

but it still dies to dark

so went to bloodbath

[left snow]

im gonna try that xiada team when i have the time

[glass ruin]

i like when rilmocha was the meta unit 1 month ago

now its just a perma doki slave

[left snow]

although feels weird to try a xiada team when its getting close to reset season

[glass ruin]

i mean it was one but now theres xiada

[left snow]

[upbeat breach]

lets see if we are actually getting resets or not lol

[left snow]

btw about your rosa team

is vice the only bloodbath user ?

[glass ruin]

nope

lily is the only non bloodbath user

i just went 5-0, i think this is like 80%

[left snow]

artisan vice, artisan lily, fortismoa sania ?

[glass ruin]

jackal vice now

jackal bb vice

[left snow]

gotcha

[glass ruin]

my sania is on some budget fortissimo

can be improved

[left snow]

sania heals so much you probably dont even need fortismo

[glass ruin]

but its 4-5 min runs

[left snow]

her healing when fully built is kinda nuts

[glass ruin]

i actually do, i think without fortissimo this goes to 20% winrate

[left snow]

oh

is your sania 5-5-5 ?

[glass ruin]

5-3-5

[upbeat breach]

sometimes diting is getting one shotted =/

[glass ruin]

bloodbath diting sounds cursed

i will not suggest that

[upbeat breach]

meh even viper is dying fast wtf

cursed boss

[charred minnow]

Bulwark bloodbath colosguard diting

[upbeat breach]

maybe i need timeweave on fuqiu to spam more shields

yeah, I cant see how this can be stable at all =/

if the boss has the aoe after i move 4x/8x times with DPS I will always wipe...

[upbeat breach]

Yep, cant do it at all

[tribal sluice]

Got my inferno rengo setup finally

[calm marsh]

in this thread?

[outer falcon]

Yes, I was referencing something that had been posted higher up iirc

Oh whoever posted it deleted it

It was 36 minutes into a vod for some streamer I don't know the name of

Found it @calm marsh luckily YouTube has searchable watch history. 36 minutes I think https://www.youtube.com/live/v_FX1udDBFw

[pallid rose]

How is the marathon going guys?

[undone vortex]

battlewill xiada wow

cookin

[mental mural]

Mine is over
How's yours?
Still pushing?

[pallid rose]

oh no

mine ended about 2 weeks ago. I'm just here for the meme

[mental mural]

The marathon warriors in here are truly built different
Unlimited cope
Unlimited delusions
Finite continuity

[pallid rose]

yeah... they're reaching perfection, huh?

[mental mural]

They'll let us know when they get there

[pallid rose]

Sometimes I come here to see what's the cope or drama at the moment

it's more fun than playing er

but I think people is already reaching the 5th phase: acceptance.

and soon here will stop being funny too

[mental mural]

Yeah
They're in too deep

[undone vortex]

that's what she said

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[outer falcon]

Whoever designed Ethernet Rally NicoNana should be dropped into the middle of the ocean

[pure junco]

👀

[outer falcon]

He's back in form https://youtu.be/nu-2yWqyrZw

[undone vortex]

💀

[graceful juniper]

I mean if enemy go obvious with bruiser team why he go all in on bloodbath?

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/because-i-am-evil-lex-luthor-evil-gif-23063227

[graceful juniper]

[spice fern]

https://etheria.xd.com/us/news/single?id=ofrjxuQZVZWq

[mental mural]

All they had to do was remove epic shells
Now they just replaced it

Fix one issue
Create 10 other

[graceful juniper]

I mean its pretty obvious from last meeting,mythic is not mean to be a guarantee drop/run for them....all they fix rn is the amount of training data probably

[mental mural]

Now to see if those sumbass drop more often than epic shells or not

[ripe kraken]

It will be same again lmao

Just this time u have lot of exp

Atleast

Thank 5 k from epic shell

[pure junco]

The wait is finally over guys.

[ripe kraken]

Nah

[upbeat breach]

so we got no patch notes and no nerf to rengo at all, at this point fuck this shit omg

How fast they want to kill this game wtf

[gilded mason]

Its a marathon

[upbeat breach]

a marathon to kill the game? more like a 100meters sprint

[gilded mason]

the people running are fat as hell

or have no shoes

[modern shore]

[tardy ocean]

Soooo, let's just switch all epic Shells out with this shit replacement shell, that sells for more training data... but still have the same absolutely horrible drop rates for Mythic in Inferno Difficulty...

Goty

The e7 killer

[tall flame]

surely they increased the inferno shell drop rate guys right?

surely?

[gilded mason]

Slumbaa is what i wanna do when i play etheria

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleepy-sleepy-head-sleepy-dog-puppy-gif-8724532319784089108

[tardy ocean]

That is cope

[tall flame]

also how much do you think the "large amount of shell exp" will actually be

do they think 10k is a lot?

cause my guess is it's going to be something shit like 10k

[tardy ocean]

I Remember he said something about 50% more if memory serves

But still

[ripe kraken]

He said 20 k

[tardy ocean]

It doesn't solve the over arching issue

[ripe kraken]

But let's get into reality

It will be 10 k

[tall flame]

POG

FINALLY

[valid zephyr]

It doesn't solve Rengoku being retarded ass either

[tall flame]

A GOOD SHELL

[ripe kraken]

According to them no newbie reached rengo yet

And they only care about newbies tq get good old players

[tardy ocean]

Nothing like dropping a game in 2025 that competes with the 2019 version of E7.

[tall flame]

if it's 20k that would be pretty nice

[tardy ocean]

[tall flame]

would help solve the shell exp issue a lot

but they still need to address the passives and low inferno drop rates

[ripe kraken]

Jack said 20 k but I don't believe jack it might be 10

[tall flame]

they're rolling out changes way too slowly D:

[tardy ocean]

With what shells? If the mythic shells don't drop you ain't upgrading anything

[tall flame]

helps you roll passives

[ripe kraken]

We as a playerbase also need to do a pr stunt

[tall flame]

that's the wall that I'm at rn

[valid zephyr]

Yea but you need to roll passives

[ripe kraken]

Leave the game from a month let them learn lmao

[valid zephyr]

Doesn't solve everything

Solves somethings

[weak meteor]

they say they do testing before releasing but im kinda puzzled with how some of the stuffs in game seemed like they werent even tested to begin with

[valid zephyr]

Nobody said it's a perfect solution

[tall flame]

yeah

[tardy ocean]

3 million training data and no gold passive... yay... so basically

[tall flame]

it helps

for sure

[tardy ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/gamblecore-stickman-casino-gamble-gif-7118676210396292522

[valid zephyr]

Yea but now you can have 6 million data and no gold passives

[tall flame]

again thought, they're trying to address the symptoms rather than the cause

[valid zephyr]

Like I said before complain about the right things not the wrong things

[tall flame]

we have so little shell exp because of the dogshit passives system

[ripe kraken]

If we playerbase strictly do something

They will get on their knees but we are weak ourselves let's admit it

[tall flame]

they need to address the passives and inferno shell drop rate

[valid zephyr]

Go complain about drops being shit but don't be an ass about changes that are useful

[latent iron]

its their "vision" you don't understand, we're supposed to suffer

[tardy ocean]

Nothing they are currently doing actually addresses the "right things."

[valid zephyr]

Your opinion not mine

[gilded mason]

imagine if the slumbaa doesnt give reoconfig mats

[ocean bay]

Also if those things dont give reconfigs like yellows, isnt that ratio gonna get way out of control

[valid zephyr]

I'll take the training data increase any day

[gilded mason]

people gonna riot

[tall flame]

this is definitely a great change

[ripe kraken]

Idk etheria feels like they are an inch better than the persona phantom x global devs

[tall flame]

like undeniably it's a good change

but they need to continue to do more

there should have been other changes other than this in these patch notes

[tardy ocean]

If it doesn't give reconfig chips... i expect the fire and pitchforks

[latent iron]

how many more do we need and how many more months itll take

[ripe kraken]

Guys when they cut of the whole inferno talk

[tall flame]

these devs are too slow

[ripe kraken]

We already knew what's going to happen

[gilded mason]

you know, i can actually see it happening

[ocean bay]

If it doesnt give reconfigs that shit will create a massive new problem lmao

[gilded mason]

they may not have even thought of it

[ocean bay]

but im sure thatd be adjusted quickly

[gilded mason]

sureee

[weak meteor]

i mean when they prioritize their EWS instead of fixing in game economy lol

[ripe kraken]

They should give reconfig atleast after this rta season ends

[tardy ocean]

It's sad that we are sitting here saying that this could be a possibility

[ocean bay]

the math aint mathing on that lol

[gilded mason]

devs been fking up from day 1

[ripe kraken]

Imagine doing a esport event for a month old game

[gilded mason]

i dont put anything past them

[ripe kraken]

They are on drugs

[ocean bay]

Also its pretty likely 10k per cause jack was explaining it as 2x current on the devtalk but he kept saying reds sold for 10k not 5 so…

food for thought on that

[tall flame]

hopefully creators meeting devs in person at EWS will be able to talk some sense into them

[gilded mason]

their game has more bugs than goddamn pest infestation

[tall flame]

what bugs?

there's tons of localization issues

but I haven't ran into many bugs

launch has been pretty smooth performance and bug wise

[gilded mason]

lemme find that pic where ur chars change into another

[tardy ocean]

Ahh yes... an invatational after litterally a month+ of the game being released with the same meta units plus 3.... so basically what we have gotten from the Weekend PVP Turnys?

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-5765281

[ripe kraken]

Dead allies ❌ died allies ✅ according to them

[tall flame]

the all grays comp in cage rumble is just funny lol

[gilded mason]

exactly

unpolished game

apparently they've had 4 betas

not sure what they were doing

[ripe kraken]

Gray is the hidden mc guys he is just transforming as all these animus all animus are gray clones cannon

[tardy ocean]

Like, they are easily speedrunning themselves into a hole they won't climb out of because other games are just doing it better then them.

Hell even with the different rewards between CN and Global. P5X, still doing better then ER

[weak meteor]

idk why they are so scared of resources being pointless down the line when their current economy is making ppl quit the game... and ppl arent even asking for insane buffs to economy, just make it so ppl can actually progress the game lmao

[gilded mason]

they're thinking about the future

while the present is burning

its called vision

[tardy ocean]

Because they think that it's 2019....

Like how bad does your economy have to be to be worse then Raid Shadow Legends?

[ripe kraken]

They did same in their old game I think when it was going to die they fcked the whole economy in old game so people quit

XD is just walking the same path

Again and again

[weak meteor]

well im just gonna wait for the patch later and see that dreamscape event

[ripe kraken]

Imagine it gives like 1 k coins max

[weak meteor]

if thats a flop ill probably just stop spending in the game

[ripe kraken]

And that's the most generous according to them

[ripe kraken]

Never game a dime to etheria

[weak meteor]

i mean it was from rebate

where the game state was promising

[ripe kraken]

Beta was the biggest bait

Af

[pure junco]

Does this mean everyone here will finally quit? Nah huh.

[latent iron]

Even if the event gave out 10 mil will it solve anything? And i doubt itll give that much

[ripe kraken]

Max next month

Hyper talk

Will decide

[weak meteor]

stop spending doesnt mean quitting, but that does mean the revenue of the game will drop

and devs will probably cave in if revs keep dipping

[ripe kraken]

Whales are still spending blindly anyway

Yeah if they don't nerf rev in pvp many will leave

Since it will be another 70 days

[gilded mason]

whales whale for pvp

[weak meteor]

im talking about revenue, not revelation lol

[pure junco]

And again the month after that and after that and after that

[gilded mason]

if pvp sucks

they'll quit

[weak meteor]

but ye

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

[vital arrow]

Fun fact: PvP does in fact suck rn

[ripe kraken]

Actually next week

Or 28 I think

Is the pvp patch notes

Also max refresh being a must everyday is also exhausting players

Even with max refresh people are just barely getting one upgrade or a whole downgrade per day

[vital arrow]

I’m still Lily-less so I gave up on max refresh. Now I just raw dog perma summs praying I get blessed

[ripe kraken]

Like look at e7

Sending energy in mail

[vital arrow]

Wasn’t getting shit for all that stam I spent anyways

[ripe kraken]

These guys nah

Max we can do is 100 hydra crystal

[gilded mason]

thats 100 energy!

10 runs!!!

[ripe kraken]

Also e7 sells 5 x energy per day in offline arena shop

[vital arrow]

Murim Login is the best manwha ever created

[ripe kraken]

Or not even that

[upbeat breach]

they dont give a shit at all

[ripe kraken]

Friendship points shop

Actually

[upbeat breach]

have did a full 180 from beta to release

[ripe kraken]

Lmao

[upbeat breach]

it only got worse week after week

[ripe kraken]

If they can't fix theur game sell to other company af

[gilded mason]

nah

[naive wave]

That is Artery Gear's role

[gilded mason]

Artery what?

[pallid rose]

Oh boy. I have a feeling that this is going to be fun after maint

[graceful raven]

we still up

[gilded mason]

1 game isnt gonna affect them much right

[graceful raven]

need to be -50% for rengokutsu nerf

[gilded mason]

they have like

10 games

[graceful raven]

nah I rather inhale my copium and believe that a multimillion dollar company cares about 1 game

[ripe kraken]

Is shell update coming tomorrow or today

Wow trueevil is typing

[naive wave]

You've never heard of the better-in-every-single-way E7, the E7 killer, Artery Gear?

[outer falcon]

welcome brother evil to the inferno difficulty thread

[wintry vector]

hey everyone some people told me that some of you were making negative remarks about my autism on here and id just like it if you might not make negative remarks about my situation. thank you

[outer falcon]

no negative remarks were made regarding that, although it was discussed that what people thought was satirical delivery might have just been social awkwardness

in your contrasting fuqiu videos

[graceful juniper]

Oh wow thats low man.....tho all i see is just disagree with your point thats it like LH

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/womp-womp-gif-952547894348264956

[outer falcon]

I mean the only person who brought it up was me and I literally said "I think he may just speak differently because of this, but he's being serious and not joking about these opinions"

That's all

wonder who tried to stir shit though

[indigo matrix]

So what are the patch notes?

Are yall still cooked?

[outer falcon]

SLUMBAAAAAAAA

Slumbaaa... You are the rightful Lion King...

[gilded mason]

I wanna see if it gives reconfig chip or not

[graceful raven]

the patch notes is stocks are up so fuck the players

[gilded mason]

If it doesnt give reconfig chip....ohh boy the drama makes me tingle in anticipation

[outer falcon]

I'm sure it'll give chips

[gilded mason]

You 100% sure?

Dont forget who we're talking about here

[outer falcon]

I'd put money on it at least

[graceful raven]

put your money in their stocks its up!!!

[outer falcon]

I'd say... 85%

[ripe kraken]

Guys so this shell fix arrives today right after maint

Or tomorrow

[gilded mason]

Fair

[gilded mason]

In around 5 hours it seems

It will probably change after maint ends

[ripe kraken]

Imagine slumbaa is bugged and gives 1k shell data

[outer falcon]

anyway @wintry vector just wanted to make sure you saw this reply, nobody was being derogatory about it and whoever communicated otherwise to you misinterpreted what was said

[ripe kraken]

From 10 to 1

[outer falcon]

Honest mistake... a missed decimal... all AI coding tools fail occasionally...

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

Imagine it preferred binary

[indigo matrix]

Damn i just saw the patch notes

Yall are still cooked, sorry my brothers

[ripe kraken]

Imagine our economy also gets changed to binary

100 k coins nah after new bug 1k coin

Imagine

How much time it will take with 1 k coin

To upgrade a module to 15

[wintry vector]

okay thanks for letting me know

[gilded mason]

Well im just playing to kill time till next game comes out

[graceful raven]

are we like medium rare, rare, or well done though

[ripe kraken]

We are still raw

[gilded mason]

Charred to ash

[ripe kraken]

We didn't reach any point

We are raw

[gilded mason]

Are we raw

[graceful raven]

[ripe kraken]

Yes

When gem refreshing isn't a must we reached medium

[graceful raven]

even if you use the gems for refresh on pulls, and u get a new character, u got no lattice to build 'em

[outer falcon]

Btw why has nobody mentioned them nerfing Ethernet Rally's rewards by adding a 1 week cooldown time between runs

That's a 33% reduction

[ripe kraken]

Did they do that?

Holy

[outer falcon]

Yeah, it was slipped into the announcements a patch or 2 ago

I keep forgetting to bring it up

[ripe kraken]

Gg

Another dumpster fire

Incoming

[graceful raven]

the devs are so thoughtful, they know that ethernet rally is tiring to do so they give us a break

[outer falcon]

OK maybe it's not a week

◆ EtherNet Rally：

Fixed an issue where ally units could not control their attack targets after being grabbed by <NicoNana>.

Fixed an inconsistency between the description and title of <Loot>.

Optimized the timeliness of <Leaderboard> data clearing.

Added support for showing individual Hyperlinkers' <Leaderboard> information.

***Added offseason periods.***

Fixed display issues with the lowest graphics quality settings on certain device models.

Adjusted Outerlink Section-Break Point <Kururu> enemy [Gluttony Thorn] HP by -20%

We'll see what it is when it resets

Either way it's a nerf to rewards

[indigo matrix]

Dw yall, next patch will fix everything sureeeeely

[ripe kraken]

Nope

We just move from raw to on heat

That's it

[ancient lava]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funnt-cat-black-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-16409614852005252877

[indigo matrix]

Bros looking unwell

[ancient lava]

Average player after 2+ weeks of no 3x3 shell they look for

[gilded mason]

Where are the day1 average players stuck at now

Hell 4?

[ancient lava]

Tbh if someone a day 1 and stuck at hell 4 that means they just giga bricked. Hell is balanced, just bad mentality of people coming from other gachas to spend currency on pulls

[upbeat breach]

specific inferno bosses that are gated by pulls

[gilded mason]

Oh when i said stuck at hell4 i.meant they can clear hell4 but cant do inferno so they're stuck farming hell4

[upbeat breach]

This game is more gated by pulls than stats.....

[ancient lava]

Oh yeah

[gilded mason]

Besides i think lots of casuals have no clue what to build

[inland warren]

New patch notes, still no rengo nerfs

[gilded mason]

They're also probably struggling

[ancient lava]

Not rly aside rengo/sharon nothing is gated by X unit atm

[gilded mason]

This game is not for casuals

[upbeat breach]

another fuck you from the devs

[gilded mason]

Even experienced turn based gacha players struggle

[ancient lava]

Which imo is still a issue both rengo and sharon balance is disgustinf, fact ppl are doing 4 bloodbath including dps and usin grev to clear rengo dps wise tells u all abt balance

[upbeat breach]

because they have been nerfing all the bullshit things that they implemented between beta and launch

[outer falcon]

The boss designs are just gross

[upbeat breach]

at this point they dont even test what they are implementing in the game

[mental mural]

You'll know when we get there
Its a marathon, not a sprint

[pure junco]

Quick! Become stabbedthrice and protect us

[ancient lava]

Tbh doki nerf they dd changed nothing, terror was nerfed nicely, aurora untouched (most balanced out of 3 as its only boss that if u follow mechanics u win), terror was overtuned on dmg and hp. Nana was overtuned, hoyan is fine never touched never needed to be. Sharon and rengo are disgusting

[mental mural]

Hey we solved the epic shell issue in inferno!
By replacing it with a brand new one!
We hope you continue to enjoy EtheLily Reroll

[outer falcon]

Sharon having 0 interactivity feels terrible

[tardy ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-5765281

[inland warren]

I really had high hopes they would actually tune a bit some inferno fights after 2x... it's pretty obvious some are overtuned as fuck

Guess the game is going into maintenance mode with no more spending from me

[outer falcon]

I still think Terror needs another pass but I'm also too lazy to build a team for it

[upbeat breach]

They should have nerfed it even before the first 2x. It is just insane that they are just double down on it

[upbeat breach]

Inferno pet bosses were a lv 35 content. Now I cant fucking farm it at lv 100

[mental mural]

Peak reroll thumbnail

[inland warren]

I agree... but I thought they were still looking at things. The fact that they introduced the shell drop changes before tuning inferno numbers i just crazy to me

[upbeat breach]

shell drop change doesnt matter at all

[spice marsh]

i beat all inferno without lily after lvl 60-70 and is useless because reward is trash anyway

[ripe kraken]

Imagine the rewards are random in new mode like ether net rally

[inland warren]

I mean i guess it's a bit better than how it was before

[outer falcon]

I mean I'll take more shell currency for sure, depending on how much it is

[upbeat breach]

Not better when people cant even farm the content

[inland warren]

Surely some people struggle with some fights. Not all of them

[upbeat breach]

If by lv 100 you cant farm all the pve contents and focus on pvp there are a lot of really really messed up stuffs

[ripe kraken]

Hitting rengo is the only problem

Rengo is always those same teams again and again and again

[graceful juniper]

Wdym.....currently people who struggle on inferno is sharon and rengo,other inferno are no problem with certain unit or some investment

I just wish they dont drop the ball by making it only give 5k shell

[ripe kraken]

After fuqiu sharon atleast is touchable

[upbeat breach]

And rengo is really really important....

[ripe kraken]

But rengo if u don't have kloss forget it

Or yeli

[upbeat breach]

or lily

[outer falcon]

I tried Sharon today and it seems to be going fine

[upbeat breach]

or all of them 555 at the same time lol

[outer falcon]

but I am a based Doki owner

[graceful juniper]

Or you need hyper invest on bruiser for 9 min run 💀

[graceful juniper]

True....doki actually cracked dispell

[small knot]

Wow almost enough for one reconfigure! Amazing update!

[frank tulip]

The new shell drop is dumb tho. Let me click a button to just sell the trash I didn’t want again… I’m farming for shells to use… this golden shell is just more trash we get to collect to sell. Kinda dumb logic. Increase training gained and remove yellows from inferno. Ez fix.

[small knot]

Working as intended

[ripe kraken]

No jack said u will not appreciate overflow of training data

Tq get good etheria devs

[gilded mason]

Jack said he wants people to see the shell drop and feel a sense of accomplishment

[ripe kraken]

Yes

[gilded mason]

If he just increase the data amount you wont have that sense

[small knot]

I feel a sense of dread every time I try to farm shells

Is that working as intended

[gilded mason]

I feel
Slumbaaaaa

[small knot]

Can you talk to the dread director

[ripe kraken]

Nope

He is dead

[small knot]

Like my will to play this game sigh

[frank tulip]

So they give us a buffed yellow drop

[small knot]

I was coping for nerfs this patch

[frank tulip]

Cool lol

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

[frank tulip]

Pretty much nerfed inferno drops at that rate xD

[naive wave]

[ripe kraken]

It's just bandaid

Sean b already said give everyone the drop rates to jack before

Jack didn't do it

[gilded mason]

Devs listened!!!

[frank tulip]

Yeah cuz they are dog water. Maybe someone should start a google sheets with all the drops they get

We then can calculate the %ages

[small knot]

So how often will this new shell drop

90% of the time?

[gilded mason]

Who knows

Wait and see

[ripe kraken]

1 per 5 runs

I think

[gilded mason]

Added [Shell-Slumbaa] to the [Grim Pursuit] Inferno difficulty; <Slumbaa> will replace other Epic Shell drops from Inferno difficulty. Recycling <Slumbaa> grants a large amount of Training Data.

[frank tulip]

That’s what I heard him say also

[gilded mason]

This makes it sound like

It will replace all the epic shell

But its xd patch notes so most likely just bad translation

[frank tulip]

Nope it’s not all. Just 1

[indigo matrix]

Stabthrice is in jail already

[steady birch]

we still get epic shells drop then

[gilded mason]

Do we know for sure?

We dont know anything for sure

[frank tulip]

Yes he said in the video

[gilded mason]

Until they actually release it

[gilded mason]

What he said =/= what he implement

Never assume based on what someone says

[frank tulip]

Okay I’ll see you tomorrow and say told you so

[gilded mason]

Im not saying it wont happen

Im sayimg

[small knot]

It says it replaces epic shells so I assume no more epics

[steady birch]

they still keep the epic shells to drop in inferno

[ripe kraken]

One per 5 runs I mean

[gilded mason]

Dont take his words as 100% lol

Anything can change

You dont need to prove me wrong because lmao

[frank tulip]

Dude it means it won’t replace mythic drops…

[gilded mason]

Ofc it wont

I said epic

[steady birch]

they just add slumba

[gilded mason]

Not mythic

[frank tulip]

Yes

That is why it says epic not all epic

[steady birch]

at least its better than before

[gilded mason]

How long you been playing this game?

Lol

[indigo matrix]

Ive never seen such quality copium in a community aside from genshin thinking theyd get better endgame content

[small knot]

Great idea

[frank tulip]

When it released.

[small knot]

Let’s replace all mythic drops with epic drops

[gilded mason]

Their patch notes are always badly translated

[small knot]

[gilded mason]

I.would not advise taking anything at face value

[small knot]

The game is a marathon not a sprint people shouldn’t be getting mythic shells this early in the game

[frank tulip]

Most are already yellow drops so doesn’t matter much lol

[indigo matrix]

A marathon that u just need to run 18hrs a day to keep up

Truuue

[small knot]

Wdym

You’re not at the finish line

Keep running

24/7

[indigo matrix]

[thin crystal]

New patch notes still no rengo nerf

[frank tulip]

Except it to be harder lol

[gilded mirage]

It's not happening bro

Patch notes: Rengo will now attack with 2 elements, dealing the highest damaging one

[sullen heart]

Rengo steals ur gurl

[graceful raven]

rengo will make u prego

[small knot]

Bring back the doom posters and the complainers

Review bomb the game

It’s the only way to get rengo nerfs

[thin crystal]

I really hope they never nerf him now, cause id be mad af if I build a team specifically for him and then they nerf him

[small knot]

That doesn’t mean your team doesn’t work anymore tho

[gilded mirage]

Not happening, same with Aurora. They aren't nerfing the final PvE content. If anything they probably mad we figured out Aurora strat so quickly but can't afford to nerf Lingluo else everyone will be mad

[graceful raven]

just have all XD inc employees to create and upvote a fake post titled "Nerf Lingluo Please" in #1305442799587430440 ez game

[indigo matrix]

Im still here

The hero

The savior yall didnt need but deserved

[gilded mason]

[pure junco]

We can only rely on StabQuad now

[inland chasm]

Wow so silent in here

[gilded mason]

calm before the storm

possibly

[inland chasm]

Yeah after patch is up we will see xD

[vital arrow]

Dreamscape gonna give us 1mil coins watch

[steady birch]

still no dreamscape yet

[inland chasm]

Tmr

[open fable]

It's 8k training data

Not 10k icNt

Well it's a 20% increase

[steady birch]

i already spent my refresh after daily reset

now i cant try the new shell drop

[gilded mason]

I lack reconfig chips

I have too much training data

[open fable]

It gives same amount

[gilded mason]

yep all epic shells changed to the sleep things

[left snow]

at least they give 2x the data

8k instead of 4k

ngl was hoping like 20k but i will take what i can get at this point

[gilded mason]

i feel no sense of achievement at all

jack lied

[tiny sage]

[warped dune]

I would have expected different shells tbh

With a different sell amount

[tall flame]

I was really hoping for 10k

minimum

[warped dune]

So you get excited for a rainbow for example

[tiny sage]

what can you expect

[tall flame]

: (

[tiny sage]

We still haven't gotten a single good "upgrade" from beta