inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[outer falcon]

It takes a couple more rotations to get the kill, meh

Not worth pulling and 4-latticing an SSR to change that

[brave heath]

Just stating he has pretty solid use, whether or not u want to use him

[outer falcon]

we all should have whaled on software engineering

[tardy ocean]

Real

[outer falcon]

I just don't think the use is there after factoring the cost

[brave heath]

Lattice are plenty enough that it's pretty worth imo

[tardy ocean]

Well, back to lost sword.

[outer falcon]

In Etheria Restart??

[brave heath]

Depends if u already built a bunch of stuff tho that does similar things

[outer falcon]

[foggy reef]

Neft Sharon 42 echoe's its boring boss with 3 fking life

xD

[left snow]

[outer falcon]

Sharon might be my least favorite boss in the game

[left snow]

fuqui solves her too

[outer falcon]

Stop making me want to pull her day 1 I'm trying to pretend I'm a responsible adult

[half lodge]

XD I had such a good laugh

[brave heath]

Got both in 45 pulls 😎

[outer falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/tremendo-gif-6176607702265710905

[open fable]

Someone using a diff version

[outer falcon]

That just means the clear is from before the latest hotfix

Your arena replays from a couple days ago should say the same thing

[left snow]

well still cheating tho

21s sharon not possible

[outer falcon]

oh for sure

[brave heath]

Na his Massiah is just that good, actually has a 50k PC so the animations load instantly too

[tiny sage]

Imagine they just somehow still on the beta biuild lol

[civic relic]

Is there a way to make viper more consistent in aurora? Sometimes he just s3's before the purify add in the middle and it just kills the run

[outer falcon]

Speed tune him between the cleansing mob and the boss

[ripe kraken]

Hmm but he will need lattice

[outer falcon]

How fast is that? I don't know

[tribal osprey]

Nah that’s legit. He just came from the future where it changed to a sprint from a marathon to warn us all that it was a marathon. Not a sprint

[ripe kraken]

Get good guys

Those are dev accounts

They are good

They are flexing on us now

It's sarcasm don't take it as a wrong way

[warped stump]

he seems like an insane cc followup option for control teams

defbreak means your units are going to eat hella damage and freeze is a lost turn for everyone

and i wonder if he's usable in hoyan inferno? maybe like diting/nahor/kazuyo/valerian, atk break for boss, a lot of cc and pushback for side adds and he brings the defbreak

[outer falcon]

seems like he's OK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXCJiwESOHE

There's a Hoyan section in there

[warped stump]

i feel like he cant solo control the adds, you'll probably need a slow debuff or atb control

i wish hoyan didnt oneshot marvell for fun or he'd be the unit i'd imagine here to do so

[left snow]

his problem is the 1 hit cc for hoyan

will be extremely unreliable

you won't achieve higher than 70ish% is my guess with great gear

[warped stump]

i'd imagine for these teams you'd probably want to layer a second set of cc anyways if you're relying on hard ccing the adds

[left snow]

i dont think the team you suggested would work

not enough dps

even if its perfect rng

[warped stump]

yea im not too familar with how much damage you need for hoyan inferno if you're straight up nuking it

so would have to test stuff i guess

[left snow]

i think he is going to be flex option for cc teams in pvp

and some niche teams in pve

[warped stump]

that's what i imagine his core identity would be

[glass ruin]

is fast fuqiu or slow fuqiu the play

[warped stump]

cause if the enemy team isn't super tanky hes extremely punishing to let move lol

[left snow]

i havent tried fast fq yet

[left snow]

well he suffers from the same issues as kloss

[warped stump]

he needs a stripper?

[left snow]

he is single hit, unreliable

and yeah he needs a stripper

he is going to be good in cc vs cc matchups

[warped stump]

yea innate res is a motherfucker, not much you can really do there

it'll always be an issue for control comps unless you have multi hits like kaz

[left snow]

people are starting to stack eff res on bruiser teams

i can see it being a thing for certain picks in cc teams as well

but nothing so far there

kazuyo and obol are just better for cc teams

for situations i can think of at least

like in cc vs cc you are picking each others characters so nahor helps cover the overlap

but in cc vs cleave

why would you pick him over kazuyo or obol

[pure junco]

They should just release Rengo so we use him against Rengo

Problem solved

[warped stump]

sec, let me do something rq

[left snow]

freya-heinrich-lilith-obol-kazuyo draft

[warped stump]

versus cleave i'd imagine it shouldn't matter too much the activation differences - both will be fairly high activations and you can overlap a second layer of control on top of it like in your draft above

he just enables the aggressive 'die now' option with the defbreak on top of it

versus like tanky teams where you do want them to never move or they'll break out of the cycle and then fk you for doing this, i can see obol being hard to rep there

[left snow]

i mean vs cleave he is less reliable

on same gear kazuyo or obol would have higher win rate

due to having higher chance to inflict their CC,

random innate res is more likely to hit nahor than those 2

[ripe kraken]

Who made nahor single hit

Weird

[left snow]

from my perspective as a person who plays pvp a lot

you want consistency

to climb

[warped stump]

that's fair

[left snow]

if he is 80% consistent but kazuyo and obol are 95% consistent

he is just worse than the alternatives

cause remember

if its a standart cleave draft like 3 dps

you need to freeze all 3 of the dps

since all 3 can one shot

so you must win that innate res vs 3 units

[ripe kraken]

With single hit

That too

[warped stump]

that's fair, i can see that being a problem versus hard cleave

[brave heath]

Well if u swap Heinrich for viper, if 1 dps gets a turn it won't matter

Also kazuyo atk break

[left snow]

you are picking viper on a cc team ?

[brave heath]

? U need a strip unit

Strip, atk down, slow debuff

Why would u not bring a viper XD

[left snow]

he has 127 base speed

he is slow af

literaly snail

[warped stump]

i'd imagine if your opponent is running full will then you'd probably need two strip units or you get your only one banned then stand there like 'hmm how did i get here'

[left snow]

he is not an opener lol

[warped stump]

but idk the metagame on building damage dealers lol

[left snow]

a sec

[warped stump]

er bulwark, not will, sw terms

[left snow]

let me screenshot a draft

[brave heath]

So ur telling me Heinrich is out speeding a Kloss or lily or mio? Lol

[warped stump]

i've seen the drafts you've sent, i just don't know how people slot modules

[left snow]

for example this one

[warped stump]

i know in sw i used to cleave to high rank but i ran will (bulwark equiv) on every single unit in my draft, so if you opened with cc + no strip then i'd just sit there and wait then kill you

[left snow]

you need to hit all 3 of the dps

[warped stump]

i figure thats what heinrich is for, but surprised you only pick one

[left snow]

i think we are talking about different scenarions now

i was referring to cleave vs cc

[brave heath]

Yep

[warped stump]

yea this is a side tangent now

lol

[left snow]

cleave is unlikely to run bullwark

[warped stump]

since you seem to be knowledgeable about this, i figured i'd ask

[left snow]

sorry i think i missed your original point let me backread

[warped stump]

naw i just saw someone mention viper, saw the draft and was like hmm

[brave heath]

At this moment it doesn't really matter cuz not many bulwark ppl

[left snow]

wdym by will ?

[brave heath]

But once people are slamming bulwark often, u need a strip opener

[outer falcon]

immunity

[warped stump]

will is bulwark in this game

[outer falcon]

bulwark

[left snow]

ah gotcha

well in cc vs cc matchup you do want an alternate stripper

which is actually mia

she is 2nd best stripper we have

if its cc vs cc game and your opponent picks heinrich

your option is pretty much mia

[warped stump]

do you just lose if they're full bulwark and your stripper gets banned then?

[left snow]

you ban protect stripper

[warped stump]

i guess its not likely yet

[brave heath]

Holden just doesn't exist I guess now

[warped stump]

oh yeah, 3 slot is ban protected

that's smart

[left snow]

holden is slightly slower than mia iirc

[brave heath]

1 speed

And overall more useful for a cc comp

[warped stump]

1 speed slower, but much better activation (if you're able to give him crit and acc both lol)

[left snow]

yeah holden could work too but ive never seen him used in cc teams so far

[warped stump]

yea honestly i'd imagine with high level modules and some divine intervention in your rolls holden is actually insane for cc

but good luck getting crit, acc, speed, and the stats to be good lol

[brave heath]

Well if u have high accuracy on mia, it's gonna be 100% activation aswell

[warped stump]

anyhow yeah i can see the activation rates being a pretty big dilemma for cleave

[left snow]

mia also has turn meter pushback on her strip as well

[brave heath]

It's moreso I think Holden s2 is very very powerful

And also is a pseudo dps

[warped stump]

and i just noticed count has bulwark but revelation doesn't, that's unfortunate but i guess it's good you cant just hide behind immunity if your comp is a revelation oneshot comp

[brave heath]

Na u can still put bulwark

Doesn't need to be on the shell, u just gotta drop 3 points total so no like 12/8/6

[warped stump]

no 6 set then, stats a a bit harder i'd imagine without swiftraid for speed

but i suppose if you have the modules, it would work

[brave heath]

U run swiftraid

[warped stump]

oh

duh

you dont need a 12 set, 9 swiftrush, swiftraid and then bulwark

but tuning that sounds also a bit diabolical

man this got rather complicated

but going to be fun to work on so i can start trying to pvp

[brittle osprey]

bulwark is a 8 set

[left snow]

what was your original question

[brave heath]

Well yes but if u want to cleave optimally and not get farmed

U would need to do that 9/8/6

[warped stump]

was more of a thinking out loud that you can't put bulwark on revelation shell

[brittle osprey]

or oh ur ignoring a shell matrix to force it?

[brave heath]

If it was to counter cc

[warped stump]

so was like i guess u dont get bulwark, but realized wait you can just slap 3 modules on lol

[left snow]

hm 280 speed rev dps is a common thing

[brave heath]

It's like running 12/6/6 revelations rn, to get swiftrush

[left snow]

its bad vs bruiser but works in cc/cleave matchup

my massiah is like 295 speed atm

[brave heath]

My yeli is like 300+ speed rn on revelations with valerian

[warped stump]

i'd imagine this would be ideal to try and punish cc or force them to ban protect/force heinrich, metagames

[brave heath]

It's pretty common tbh

[main elm]

Why this thing is 1st in my YT feed lol

[brittle osprey]

33 minutes wow

[brave heath]

Ppl ban ur fake speed tuner then their lily gets outsped by a yeli

[warped stump]

they gotta make pve easier so people can stop testing new shit vs pve and instead look at real content

like how fast it gets oneshot by revelation freya

[left snow]

in what server are you outspeeding people with 300 speed

[outer falcon]

you watched too many hot waifu tier lists from our special king

[brittle osprey]

a lily at only 300 spd is just being outgeared no?

[left snow]

300 speed is snail speed in global

[brittle osprey]

gonna lose regardless go farm nico

[turbid ridge]

300 is slow ppl run aroudn with 330+

[brittle osprey]

wait i thought only ai arena is by server

rta is cross server isnt it?

[brave heath]

Well it's like diamond players who are putting speed sets on their kazuyo

[left snow]

yeah global 1-2-3-4-5-6

300 speed is snail on global

[main elm]

And who exactly is that

[brittle osprey]

oh rta is still region lock?

[turbid ridge]

rta is global

all regions

[main elm]

All religions

[brave heath]

Well 300 is enough to outspeed a lot of people's lily in diamond

[main elm]

[left snow]

ai arena ?

no way thats rta

[brave heath]

Rta

[left snow]

[outer falcon]

the guy whose channel that is, he's a strange pervert who likes to run 7 minute rahu comps for every clear

[brave heath]

U see a artisan lily

U don't ban it

[turbid ridge]

some ppl put lily gear on other units that dont get banned to trick you sometimes

[brave heath]

It is very simple

[main elm]

[outer falcon]

and he makes waifu tier lists for every game he plays

[brittle osprey]

lily should be 260 spd with like no substat rolls just from swift+swift + s1 + shell

[brave heath]

It's pretty easy to tell if some1 is gonna be slow enough

[main elm]

Tbh i never watched a single vid from him idk why YT recommended it to me

[brave heath]

If u see some1 1st pick lily 2nd kazuyo and it's a 6* kazuyo

[left snow]

my lily is closing 360 speed

[brave heath]

U know it's got his fastest set

[brittle osprey]

the mind games

[brittle osprey]

boooo boooooooo im stuck at 330

i cant roll red speed

barely even gold

[warped stump]

i almost always pick kazuyo early but im in pisslow rank cause i dont queue lmao

shes so fun and i have her runed

[brave heath]

Most people first pick her from what I see after mio/lily

[left snow]

She is a common pick any elo tbh

[brave heath]

And almost always have their fastest on here

[brittle osprey]

makes sense shes so good and very flexible

[brave heath]

Her

Which the benefit is she isn't gonna get unbannable slot

[outer falcon]

Inside you are 2 wolves

[brave heath]

Cuz they have to assume u will take her

So u can just ban kazuyo let lily through and most of the time since it's early rt

The lily is either 1. Pve build with artisan (slow) or 2. Not fastest unit

[outer falcon]

Why did this idiot put her on gigabyte

[left snow]

she literally works in every inferno farm

[outer falcon]

I put this unit inspired by the summoner's war string masters on GIGABYTE so she cycles out of her special state more quickly, here's why she's bad

[left snow]

3 minute rengo clears with 100% wr isn't bad i would say

considering she requires 0 lattice

[outer falcon]

That's pretty great

[warped stump]

wait what

post team

im about to slam my card on the table for this unit if you have an 100% rengo team with her

[left snow]

its the classic bloodbath dps

[warped stump]

bloodbath yeli + fuqiu + (kloss and valerian?)

(i dont know the team so i may be a bit lost lol)

[left snow]

that might work but it sounds iffy

[outer falcon]

He's doing an average of dungeon times with his fuqiu in his stupid fucking rahu comp

[left snow]

yeli-fuqui-lingluo-viper

roughly 5 minutes replace viper with lily about 3 minutes

[warped stump]

oh ll viper

[left snow]

sania also works instead of lingluo

there are so many combinations possible

[warped stump]

do i need skills on ll except s1

[left snow]

only difference would be time it takes you to clear

[left snow]

idk just max viper during 2x tbh

he is just great

[warped stump]

i got viper max already

hes kinda the goat fr

[left snow]

oh good then

okay here is the general idea

bloodbath team + yeli dps, anything would work if you have 1 sustain and no more than 2 characters of same colour

yeli, fuqui sania, lily

linglou or red chiaki would work too

fuqui doki yeli viper is also 3 minutes

rest of the teams are 4-5 minutes

[brittle osprey]

still stuck with needing yeli to farm rengoku t

booo

[warped stump]

[left snow]

ah xiada works

[brittle osprey]

theyre done selling the banner can we get a nerf now

[left snow]

diting works

but diting is the worst option

[brittle osprey]

im xiadaless

[warped stump]

my 3x3 count is surely coming

[left snow]

do you have doki

[brittle osprey]

i tried the diting+vice

[warped stump]

massiah will arrive my enemies will suffer

[brittle osprey]

yes but how much lattice u need on doki

[left snow]

0

diting-doki-viper-fuqui

[brittle osprey]

alright lets go hit me with a team

[left snow]

well here is the thing

it works with yeli

at 100%wr

[warped stump]

oo this is neat

[brittle osprey]

i go pull this fuchi

trust

[left snow]

uh so im guessing it works with diting since diting isn't light and you have no colour matching

[brittle osprey]

yeah so

[left snow]

but neither me nor my friends tested it

[brittle osprey]

when i tried before

hes too slow

[left snow]

who ?

[brittle osprey]

dps wise

so

i tried diting vice kloss ling before

i would have needed more lattice in ling and kloss

[left snow]

replace yeli with diting and im hoping it should work

[brittle osprey]

i also tried bloodbath massiah (cope he does a fraction of yeli dmg)

[left snow]

actually lowkey khloros might work too

[brittle osprey]

well i wont test it until after 2x anyway or during

i..also dont have khloros

im missing 9 units u named 3 of em

[left snow]

rosa ?

[brittle osprey]

i do have her

[left snow]

invested ?

[brittle osprey]

nope

[left snow]

rip

[glass ruin]

infinity train. kill me now

rosa banned

[outer falcon]

No Massiah?

[glass ruin]

nope

[brave heath]

No yeli no Massiah no xiada?

Oof

[wicked quiver]

You think something like Yeli, Lily, Lingluo, Viper would work?

[left snow]

it does work

[wicked quiver]

I can clear now but my win rate is like 40% with Lily, Yeli, Kloss, Valerian

[left snow]

2.5-3m clears

fuqui would also work instead of lingluo

wait this is rengo right

[wicked quiver]

honestly it could be a 45 min clear and I'd be happy with it as long as it's better than 40%

[left snow]

i just looked at the characters you suggested and assumed it was rengo

[wicked quiver]

yeah rengo

[left snow]

use double artisan

1 on viper 1 on lily

fortismo on lingluo

revelation on yeli

bloodbath on yeli and viper

100% wr is possible with good gear

[wicked quiver]

oooh bloodbath

Damn that changes a lot lol

[left snow]

well its the only teason why clear is 3 minutes

since we aren't running dps gear it is slow

rengo is pretty dumb tbh

only way to get 100% wr is by abusing bloodbath

stupid ass design

[wicked ferry]

what about the 100% winrate 1 minute clear

[glass ruin]

need to remind myself to not refresh today

[left snow]

idk anything about that

[glass ruin]

until before reset

[left snow]

thats very impressive

if its actually 100%

[brave heath]

Trick is to refresh and only do daily stuff as soon as 2x is announced

Assuming u have enough time to spend them

[fathom tusk]

@left snow wait so for Rengo, I can run Lily, Fuqui, ling and Lily? Who needs bloodbath for this comp?

[left snow]

you can't run double lily

[sleek wedge]

@left snow sorry, when you say bloodbath team do you just mean yeli and fuqiu on bloodbath?

[fathom tusk]

Oh yeli for first one lmao

[left snow]

that might work but i would run viper instead of fuqui or lingluo just to be safe

i dont think it would be 100% wr

[fathom tusk]

Gotcha

[left snow]

or replace lily with lingluo

which would make it like a 4 minute clear

but still 100%

[left snow]

for what team

[sleek wedge]

yeli lily fuqiu lingluo

[fathom tusk]

So ling, viper, yeli, fu. Yeli and fu on bloodbath?

[left snow]

a sec let me pull up a screenshot

you can also put yeli on bloodbath which is actually better

but any iteration would work

[fathom tusk]

Nice. I was planning to build sania this weekend too so this works out

[left snow]

lingluo, viper, sania, fuqui, red chiaki etc

[left snow]

ngl it is legit faster if you put yeli on bloodbath

since a lot of times you have no dps in that comp

yeli is busy being dead

and you need to wait for sania to revive her

[fathom tusk]

Good to know. I was going to live in hollow gp farm, investigation, and then aurora in that order this weekend

[left snow]

bloodbath is good to have for some farms and pvp if you like bruiser teams

aurora is definitely a good idea to farm

esp if you like it in pvp

[glass ruin]

how long would lily mia fuqiu viper take to clear

[sleek wedge]

icic, luckily I have a lot of good bloodbath pieces sitting around

[fathom tusk]

Yup I run bruiser pvp with rahu at the moment

[sleek wedge]

any shell specifics or does it not matter too much

[fathom tusk]

Thanks for the help on rengo

[left snow]

double artisan

[sleek wedge]

the classic

tyty

[left snow]

revelation on yeli obviously

for sustain either fortismo or supernova

[fathom tusk]

@left snow what team do you specifically run

[left snow]

fortismo is better i think but i dont think it should matter if you have supernova raised due to aurora laready

[glass ruin]

hmm maybe i should start building supernova

[left snow]

i run the 8 minute team since i don't have pve gear

[fathom tusk]

Ha fair

[left snow]

too busy rolling for pvp

[sleek wedge]

i assume fuqiu's shield stacks w artisan?

diff shields don't overwrite one another right

[left snow]

vice viper sania holden specifically

but yeah 8-9 minutes per run so its torture

[fathom tusk]

So long haha

[latent iron]

diff shields do stack ya

[fathom tusk]

I’ve been farming aurora the past couple days too so I likely got stuff laying around already

[left snow]

you will need so many lighthouse as a bruiser player

i would say its worth

to spend 3-5 minute clears on it

[fathom tusk]

Yeah I need to farm rengo so this info with bloodbath being needed is super helpful. Will likely tackle rengo post 2x weekend

[main elm]

U sold her to me with that statement

[normal lichen]

fuqio lingluo lily and yeli is 100% win rate?

[left snow]

viper instead of lingluo is

im assuming lingluo would be too

although you might die at 8 stacks

due to not having atk debuff

viper instead of fuqio also is

[normal lichen]

wait so lily yeli fuqio and viper?

no need for lattices on fuqio?

[left snow]

nope

[normal lichen]

hmm

[left snow]

wait actually doki better

a sec

0 lattice on fuqui and doki

a friend of figured that

fuqui + doki can 100% pretty much anything one way or the other

that one is i think 3 minute farm

or 3.5miutes

4/5/5 yeli 5/5/5 viper

both doki and fuqui is 1/1/1

[normal lichen]

hmm

[normal lichen]

how do you build fuqiu? similar to val?

[left snow]

fortismo

[normal lichen]

hmm

[left snow]

my friend has been trying fast fuqui

ive been trying slow fuqui

and he has gotten better results than me

seems like fast is the way for pve

[normal lichen]

hmm interesting

[left snow]

but i also dont have doki which pairs up very well with her

that probably played a role

[normal lichen]

and he didnt skill up doki at all?

i m surprised

i thought doki wasnt very good without skillups

[left snow]

yep 1/1/1 doki

[normal lichen]

wow

let me give this a try

[left snow]

fortismo is the key

bloodbath on everybody except fortismo user

50k hp on fortismo user

can be sania, lingluo or fuqui

i think supernova would work but im assuming

it would tank the win rate %

70-90%

[normal lichen]

oh

i dont have a fortismo built 😦

ill wait til after the 2x event then

[left snow]

a friend was trying with supernova

let me ask for his wr%

[turbid ridge]

dont you clear it with almsot any units when you slap on bb

[left snow]

probably if you dont mind 10min + clears

goal is to keep it around 3 minutes or under 3 minutes

while maintaining 100% wr

[normal lichen]

ya i would take a 3 min clear at 100% tbh lol

speed isnt that important when it's not the 2x event

[austere harbor]

Why does doki doki work with fuqui?

[left snow]

average time seems to be 2.5 minutes

with 0 lattice

excluding yeli obviously

[normal lichen]

is fortismo a must?

[left snow]

he said he didnt even bother trying with supernova since it would tank the win rate

[outer falcon]

Fuqui has high enough cooldowns that Doki will target her for reductions pretty much every time. It should (theoretically, don't have her yet) keep her buff uptime nearly constant despite 0 lattices

[normal lichen]

hmm

[left snow]

another thing is

doki + fuqui combination is similar to giving everybody on the team a lily s2

fuqui covers speed, doki s3 is basically a lily s2 party wide if you speed tune without the speed buff

they complement each other really well

we are calling it super lily atm

[outer falcon]

Had 60 summons stacked, got her on the 60th

[normal lichen]

imagine if your doki had skillups

heard she gets super op with lattices

[left snow]

oh yeah

im perma banning doki in rta since people that play me already know i dont have her

and they try to ban protect her if i dont pre ban her

[turbid ridge]

Sir what are these lattice you talking about

[normal lichen]

gotta imagine them

and pretend like theyre there

[left snow]

need reset event

so i can reset a few pve characters to max pvp ones

[main elm]

When can we actually start playing PvP in this PvE game

[undone vortex]

did u know that it's a marathon not a sprint

[main elm]

[pallid rose]

you don't wanna play PvP in the first month of the game man... marathon, remember?

[brave heath]

ye fuqiu and doki seems pretty strong, imagine if doki was skilled up

[main elm]

I got muscle cramp for running for that long man, leg gotta fuckin breathe aye

[pale jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-legs-macho-li'l-gif-8098075115180883333

After this marathon is over

[main elm]

Also what's with the "if u see a blatant hacker please contact the CMs or devs or whatever the fuck they want us to contact" instead of them actually give a shit and fix the abuse ?

How hard to open the rankings and see lol

[warped kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

I feel equally as insulted seeing those moderators' answer to people telling them that there are hackers

I'm sorry, but that's the dev's job, not ours

It's not even a job we can do

Those idiots who are getting top 1 in clear times are just the most obvious and dumb ones, there are who knows how many flying under the radar as anyone with a brain would, and only devs can stop them

[main elm]

Yeah I'm currently flaming a mod

It's absurd to actually tell us to do it

[warped kestrel]

100% absurd

And if anything, it scares me, makes me think that they intend to only ban the obvious ones topping the clear time highscores

And they'll just ignore every non-obvious hacker that doesn't get reported because there's no way for us to find them

Serra had a good point, those hackers are actually doing us a favor

If we just don't report them, maybe enough people will get pissed that their "achievements" from the "hard PvE content" is being nullified by cheaters

[main elm]

Yeah just don't fakin report

Fuck em

Why do I even give a shit, it's their game being abused

I mean why, why even say it, just give the most corporate answer and we'll eat it like good boys.

Say "we are currently investigating the abuse issue, or currently a team working on it" doesn't have to be fucking true but hey, it's waaaay better answer than, "uh yeah just report him"

[undone vortex]

I'll talk to the abuse director

[graceful juniper]

Aurora inferno down....now only terror left

[azure hare]

wait til you get to cooking on the 3rd slot protected pick law of silence tech

[gilded mason]

Why does random gooner game lost sword seem more polished than etheria

[azure hare]

tbf theres no depth to this lost sword game

i can already see im going to be insanely bored by monday

but until then, fuck it

[gilded mason]

Its an idle game

I expect it to have no depth

But i gotta say its damn polished

[crude axle]

the cycle of progression on ER's starting to be painful

[main elm]

Things needs to be visually polished to be goonerful, ER slaps AI and send it into release coz "competitive PvE PvP game"

[crude axle]

low manual sucess rate on inferno nico (get better i know) but every clear its just yellow shells so the progression isnt getting anywhere

[main elm]

U don't need a marathon to bust a nut in day 1, there game goal achieved

[naive wave]

Reminds me of AL
Cheaters exist even in easy PvE
And ER is the same, it's for farming stages, which are also easy
https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1940672639774941647

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

Dear Commander,

A new Wall of Shame is up for "A Rose on the High Tower".
This sours the gaming experience for all players in the community. Take this as a strict warning of future players who are considering cheating.

#AzurLane #Yostar

X · Jul 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

Maybe old AL players still remember "My Takao is very strong!" excuse from a cheater in the official server

[hexed jay]

Even in Blue archive people cheat during raids

And they get banned everytime they do a ban wave

Just like every gacha does

[naive wave]

Low level account
Only 1 student
But #1 rank
Skill difference, really

What's funny is sometimes there are actual accounts with limited or even collab characters that use cheat

[pure junco]

I admire your dedication

[hexed jay]

Dedication to the truth

I mean it's only been a day. Who knows maybe they're banned already

[pure junco]

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, truthfully you have proven how far someone could love something regardless of it's flaws, that's guts

[hexed jay]

I don't even love this game 😂

I swear some of you people are just the most delusional

[pure junco]

So you're just trolling?

XD I'm just being civil here

[hexed jay]

[warped stump]

damn this is tanky as heck

[hexed jay]

Who knows

but I still play the game for now

It's pretty fun to poke the hornet's nest from time to time

specially if it's really really angry

[graceful cradle]

@mental mural is blazing blaze you?

[hexed jay]

no doubt

[graceful cradle]

I need better speed on my Yeli for these attacks

[mental mural]

Yes

Haven't logged into the game since 12PM

[mental mural]

I knew it
Bro was just here for bait and entertainment

[hexed jay]

doesn't mean I don't like this game

[ionic sonnet]

Finally , but they really need to increase the drop rate 🫩

[graceful cradle]

xD i need a faster Yeli but i'm too lazy

[tribal sluice]

I haven't logged in too

Sitting on 5k stam

[keen frost]

what's your team? this fight is so rng heavy trying to clear fast

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[gilded mason]

Another flash notice

Just how many bugs are there

Is this some beehive situation

[tribal osprey]

How the hell did fuqiu have 2 bugs already

Fuqiu indeed

[ripe kraken]

This is a marathon not a sprint u forgot that that flight

[graceful juniper]

Oh wow they fix back tiamat - amber combo

[outer falcon]

Kinda a w ngl

[naive wave]

Aw, I thought it was about S8 announcement

[young tree]

W tiamat fix

[pure junco]

Stability update=everything is fixed

The wait is over

[tight laurel]

Ngl kinda sad that it seemed like this mistake could've been something these devs thought was a good idea

[outer falcon]

They've gotta sleep in the bed they made

[pure junco]

They have been doing that since launch

[outer falcon]

I'd be scared of papercuts

[tight laurel]

I'd risk it

[pure junco]

You do talk a GG

[mental mural]

Don't care whether you like this game or not though

[mental mural]

Me with my delusions thinking 1200 summons is enough for lily

[mental mural]

She's there to be a fuck up
Fuq~ui for a reason

[hexed jay]

I don't care either

[mental mural]

Ok

Don't know what you dont care about but ok

[hexed jay]

If you really didn't care you wouldn't have bothered typing all that

Nice to see y'all care for me ❤️ 🥹

[undone vortex]

I hope u trip

[mental mural]

Making up your own delusions as always

[hexed jay]

I'll trip on yer mum

😂

[gilded mason]

i care for dimi like how jack the ripper cared for prostitu*es

[undone vortex]

wtf so rude

[hexed jay]

that's not rude I just love her

[mental mural]

Someone edit this to show jack running away and us chasing after him

[undone vortex]

i thought u were gay

where did this woman loving come from

[gilded mason]

i got a better one

[mental mural]

Share

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-captain-jack-sparrow-run-sprint-ahh-gif-5786303

[hexed jay]

If only Jill went down the hill with Jack

[gilded mason]

his name is also jack

coincidence?

[mental mural]

Perfect

[hexed jay]

Yer mum is one

[mental mural]

[undone vortex]

no u

[gilded mason]

yo mama so fat

thanos had to snap twice

[mental mural]

Every EtheLily character has the same face with different hair

[pure junco]

Shhhhh you're not supposed to say

[mental mural]

They stopped sponsoring me!!!

😡

Had to tell

[gilded mason]

Thats some one piece level

Etheria devs know their stuff

[mental mural]

They took inspiration from oda drawing nami

[gilded mason]

[inland warren]

Guess i gotta pull fuqiu then

0 lattice on her, everyone on bloodbath? Making bloodbath set for everyone is gonna be pain tho

[mental mural]

She apparently got nerfed

[warped dune]

I dont mind reporting them

[inland warren]

Already lol

[gilded mason]

Aw fuq

[mental mural]

I finally understand why we had so many betas

💔

[small knot]

Clearly not enough

[graceful juniper]

To fkin bait thats why

[small knot]

Should I just start a new sw acc

Lowk getting impatient

I kinda don’t want to wait until the end of the month to be able to play

[mental mural]

It was to have us test it for them and send suggestions to them cuz they were too lazy to actually try to figure out a way to improve it

They didn't want to waste time trying to make it good

[warped dune]

Who did you guys get? Fuqiu or nahor?

[pure junco]

Kinda sounds like you already know but still a little patience left. How about you start that account first and play for a while, then come to a conclusion

[gilded mason]

Both

And theyre just sitting there

[graceful juniper]

Fuq u

[gilded mason]

Fuq u

Na whore

[graceful juniper]

[gilded mason]

Holden deez nuts

[graceful juniper]

Anyway fuq u help on ether trek....i have decent healer on green atleast

[gilded mason]

Ether trek new mode

Just walking

[warped dune]

Yeah i got fuqiu and i am waitin for x2, very hyped to finally build her

[gilded mason]

Oh you got lattice?

[warped dune]

Yeah ofc

[gilded mason]

Wow

Look at mr richie rich over here

[warped dune]

I mean i didnt build xiada rosa or yeli so i am already +8 lattice probably over everybody

[gilded mason]

Oh

[surreal bobcat]

both, will most likely build fuqiu first out of the two but her priority on the building list is fairly low, she seems to perform ok even at 1-1-1

[small knot]

No im already gonna play sw

[fickle hearth]

welp it was fun while it lasted im out good luck!

[small knot]

I just have an old account and I want to check up on it but

Lowk kinda bored rn

[warped dune]

🫡

[small knot]

Been running nothing but doki2 since I don’t want to push Ethernet or ember

[left snow]

Did they actually nerf fuqui

Bruh

All that testing yesterday it was for nothing

[undone vortex]

Fair gameplay is the core value of Etheria: Restart and a shared pursuit of all passionate Hyperlinkers. We profoundly acknowledge the significant harm inflicted upon the gaming environment through cheating and hacking activities

[small knot]

[surreal bobcat]

she had 2 changes and i dont even know if the changes made her better or worse, considering we barely got to use her before they patched it

[small knot]

Nobody will ever know because Etheria either did it as a shadow nerf or just called it a bug fix

[left snow]

i will test it now

[undone vortex]

the should bugfix revelation for pvp

[left snow]

and see if she has still 100% wr everywhere

[small knot]

There’s no actual compilation that details the specific changes that they make

[left snow]

like the 2 place where people actually care are probably rengo and aurora

[small knot]

Idk how many people will be running her over lingluo + flex sustain

[warped dune]

What do you mean they nerfed her

[left snow]

my friend dmed me about it

not sure if it actually was a nerf or an actual bugfix

you can't really trust the patchnotes anymore

[undone vortex]

what was changed about her

[warped dune]

It was a bugfix

[left snow]

like after tiamat travesty

[small knot]

True

After Tiamat can’t be too suspicious

[warped dune]

What did they do to tiamat

[undone vortex]

amber would reset her stacks

when she ded

[small knot]

Xd devs coding can be a little interesting sometimes

[warped dune]

Yeah thats what amber does

So what did they do to tiamat

[small knot]

And then there was the silence bug that happened

Making it impossible to use skills on Tiamat

[warped dune]

Thats a bug

[small knot]

That’s what I just called it

But I’m pretty sure it came about as a result of them “fixing” other bugs related to Tiamat

[warped dune]

Yeah but i am still confused about the amber part thats why

Amber should reset tiamat stacks no?

Seems how it should work

Or how did it work ?

[left snow]

no it shoudlnt

and they fixed her apparently

it doesnt reset anymore

[small knot]

Idk I never used Tiamat but I heard about it from other people

[left snow]

ok fuqui hasn't been changed for aurora farm

[small knot]

Originally amber which was basically I think her most used

[left snow]

time to test for rengo

the moment of truth

[small knot]

Became her least used because of the amber bug

[warped dune]

Wait so amber doesnt reset tiamat bloodstacks anymore?

[small knot]

It doesn’t

[left snow]

dude it literally never did before they bugged her

[mental mural]

@graceful cradle I will touch you mf

[left snow]

you would turn into dragon form thats the only scenario where you lost your stacks

after ending dragon form

[warped dune]

But thats a bug tiamat should lose her stacks with amber

[left snow]

no it shouldn't, nobody else does

[warped dune]

Who is noboey

[left snow]

rahu

xiada

yesterday people tested it

i mean devs thought it was a bug and fixed her today

so clearly they thought it was a bug

[warped dune]

Seems like amber should reset rahu and xiada also

[left snow]

nah she is still 100% wr

on aurora

seems like still 100% on rengo but

yesterday there was a run

where viper missed all of his debuffs in a 3minute run

not a single atk down landed and he used s3 like 10 times

that was super close

[small knot]

Uma musume is a real game

Uma

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-cap-dancing-umamusume-chibi-gif-10169214246627292150

[mental mural]

Mental illness

[torpid willow]

Which team are u using in rengo?

[warped dune]

I think i solved rengo inferno for f2p

[surreal bobcat]

oh?

[warped dune]

Requires some more testing to get the most optimal build but i think i got it

Also the gear requirment is quite high i guess? But its doable with SRs only

[wicked ferry]

easier for f2ps to get SSRs than high gear

[warped dune]

U think so? Imo getting gear is easier than units

[ripe kraken]

So many tickets wasted

[wicked ferry]

i mean look at the name of the thread were in. inferno is bloody impossible so how are people supposed to get their 3x3 shells and modules

pulling is just clicking a button

[ripe kraken]

Jodox will this game survive till September

[warped dune]

Getting the right unit you need is not

[ripe kraken]

Each day people are leaving left and right

[wicked ferry]

id prefer if it did, but idk at this point

[ripe kraken]

And hackers are roaming as a walk in park

With their speed runs

[warped dune]

And not being able to clear niconana inferno after the nerfs as a f2p is literally skill issue.

[ripe kraken]

Someone did nico nana inferno in half millisecond it might not have registered cause mod lmao

I am joking

[wicked ferry]

you cant say its a skill issue. you are going to hurt feelings. inferno is too hard and the devs are to blame. the players should be able to beat all content without trying. its never player fault always dev fault

[ripe kraken]

They can't tie players forever at a place if they ain't improving

People will move day by day

[warped dune]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[ripe kraken]

[surreal bobcat]

depends what you mean by gear requirement, if its modules then should be easy but if its some of the later inferno shells like sharon/rengo then maybe not

[hexed jay]

holy ban list

[warped dune]

Nah its just niconana shells

[surreal bobcat]

interesting

[thin crystal]

Is rengo nerfed yet?

[ripe kraken]

Nope

Will take 3 months

Get good

• devs

[gilded mason]

Why need nerf

Its endgame content its supposed to be hard

Get gud

• yours truly, etheria

[indigo oyster]

why are all the good player banned?

[left snow]

[indigo oyster]

they reach perfection and got ban

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[thin crystal]

Er doesn't like players who find the game too easy

[left snow]

@indigo oyster can you send your setup

[gilded mason]

Good men die young

[graceful cradle]

Yeah the first one was because my Yeli is too slow to bridge with Kloss but I was too lazy to put on a faster set for that lol

[graceful cradle]

Can you send me a clip of your rengo btw with Fuqiu

[left snow]

i havent tried rengo post bugfix whatever the bug was

paul tried it tho

and he is the one who comes up with rengo teams

[charred minnow]

this is how Inferno should've been... I spent 9 mins total on final boss phase, but was still able to kill it when dps died after adds got killed

instead we got ugly enrage mechanics and stacking buffs/debuffs ;-;

[small knot]

How did bro spend 18 minutes on this

I cleared in 5 minutes

[left snow]

massiah

is cope

[heady fox]

Always so nice to grind Inferno difficulty...

[left snow]

also his dps died and he had to kill the boss with only supports later

which probably was most of the run

[small knot]

Massiah cope is unreal

Atp just run rilmocha and play for final dmg

Personally I think it’s faster to just restart but I have xiada

Tbf you could also reroll for cd reduction to spam massiah s3

[gilded mason]

nice nightmare run dude

[charred minnow]

I mean

who tf cares that I spent 18min in auto

that's besides the point lmfao

I didn't feel like building another unit just for the train so I just went in and picked some trash that is equipped lmfao

[thin crystal]

normal

[thin crystal]

who

[small knot]

The devs cus why didn’t you spend 3000 stamina building a new unit???? It’s a marathon not a sprint

[charred minnow]

?

actually braindead

[small knot]

should have also invested 12 perfect lattices on new units smh

[charred minnow]

why would I need to invest if I already clear?

[warped dune]

Ignore him he is ragebaiting.

[gilded mason]

@small knot why u ragebait

[small knot]

No it was all sarcasm but he just didn’t pick up on it 😭 😭

I thought they would pick up on my obvious sarcasm but ig not

[warped dune]

Ohh sorry mb then english second language here kekw

[gilded mason]

this whole thread is sarcasm

[pure junco]

Because we haven't reached perfection?

[left snow]

lmao tokiyo got hacked too

how do people even fall for this

[graceful juniper]

he probably looking for discord that has +18 content

[left snow]

prywden guy getting banned due to losing his account to nsfw discord scam

adding more thing to the list of bad shit on prywden

[graceful juniper]

lol

[turbid ridge]

lol how you get hackd nowdays

[main elm]

Rip

I got 3 friend requests from this server

All decline coz obvious

[pure junco]

So he clicks on a link in plain sight labeled NSFW.

[main elm]

Bro down bad

He needs a mega gooner game

Soon CZN

[pure junco]

Lost Sword

[main elm]

I lost sword

Haven't even seen it

[pure junco]

Poor sword.

It will never be in the stone

[left snow]

how do you even lose your account

by clicking that link ?

[main elm]

[left snow]

are they giving personal information like password for some reason

[ripe kraken]

I never sent ya friend request cuz real friendship doesn't need that XD

[main elm]

https://tenor.com/view/kk-brodslin-ok-khajiit-elder-scrolls-gif-17647458

[ripe kraken]

Nope

It's just a fake link

[gilded mason]

you lost your sword?

damn

[main elm]

About to lose my bag coz Indonesia airport domestic flight is very SUS

Specially when coming all the way from gulf

[pure junco]

And to think? HTML isn't all that difficult to understand lmao

[pure junco]

Next time swim across the Gulf. Trust me

[left snow]

yeah i dont understand how people lose accounts

[main elm]

Never lost anything on the internet to hacking, except back in 2005 when my WoW account got hacked when I logged in from a shitty internet gaming cafe

[turbid ridge]

it happens once than never again

[main elm]

7k kilometers, that's even longer than Etherea marathon the devs made it out to be

[turbid ridge]

but i think its funny that ppl click on nsfw shit = lsoe account and embarrassing

[pure junco]

Reminds me of those scam call centers asking for 500$ to fix your PC

[left snow]

makes you think

[pure junco]

And the scambaiters who make a niche out of fooling them

[left snow]

if any other prywden guys from other games have met the same fate

[pure junco]

People already shit on them for inaccuracies

So why not

[left snow]

now we can shit on them for being gooners without common sense to not click obviously harmful links

[pure junco]

[left snow]

@pure junco @main elm

[main elm]

[mental mural]

In this server?

[left snow]

ye

[mental mural]

L

[weak meteor]

imagine clicking sus links

[tribal osprey]

There is a ban list?

[pure junco]

Yup

[tribal osprey]

Where do you even see that

[gilded mason]

Ban List:
Wuzzy
FLighT
Nameless
Healfree

[tribal osprey]

Rip the price needed for perfection

[small knot]

LOL

[gilded mason]

Ban List:
Wuzzy
FLighT
Nameless
Healfree
xyvdum

[gilded mirage]

Lmaoooo thats what baited them?

[main elm]

[warped kestrel]

Good, that kid was a dumbass

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/nene-leakes-rhoa-why-gif-19871951

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/well-take-all-the-allies-we-can-get-hunter-echo-star-wars-the-bad-batch-we-need-more-allies-gif-2040335687504012422

[tribal osprey]

Got another on the ban list

[gilded mason]

Seanb throwing shade.

[turbid ridge]

its not sponsored its pure love

[tribal osprey]

This is all Nahor’s fault. Sean left after he built him

[full delta]

gg

[thin crystal]

65k chats and counting

still no rengo nerf

[thin crystal]

e7 still a shit game

[left snow]

@graceful cradle

[tribal osprey]

What’s wrong with this?

The duality of drop rates

[mental mural]

Probably accidental
Almost clicked on one as well

[turbid ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

i mean can happy to anyone but nswf links .....

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[left snow]

you want me to say it

[graceful cradle]

i'll just message xyro

actually

@little elbow that aurora needs to be changed

[left snow]

fuqui is better than mia in aurora

and its hilarious

[graceful cradle]

With a bloodbath set Fuqiu is actually the freest Aurora

[left snow]

yeah

[graceful cradle]

Use Amber if you're low hp

[vapid olive]

is there a recorded run somewhere of bloodbath fuqiu in aurora?

[left snow]

not bothered with recording

but she is the best sustain there

she does what lily does + sustains

[weak meteor]

u have to use lingluo as well right?

[graceful cradle]

.

[little elbow]

Can someone send a recording of

Aurora and fuqui ty!

[left snow]

its not bugged or anything

[graceful cradle]

.

[left snow]

its just fuqui being busted

[little elbow]

I just want a recording of it

thats it.

[graceful cradle]

i tested with 4 diff team combos including Diting

safest aurora by far

[left snow]

yep

far better than mia, red chiaki or any other sustain

[little elbow]

can you send some runs :)?

[graceful cradle]

go watch cars stream from yesterday

he did it when i suggested it

[left snow]

why do you think it should be nerfed tho

[graceful cradle]

sec lemme just ss it at the end

[left snow]

like it is a very specific setup

[graceful cradle]

hmm?

[left snow]

i misread what you said

[left snow]

wait actually wdym by this

i think its fine for her to be good in aurora

[graceful cradle]

her rating is 5

4*

[left snow]

oh you mean for prywden ?

[graceful cradle]

@little elbow if i give you the completion ss is that fine?

[little elbow]

no ty

[left snow]

i thought you meant xyro should just tell the devs to nerf fuqui

[little elbow]

I just want a video so I can send to pyrdwen staff chat

to get her moved up

in the tier list

thats all 🙂

[graceful cradle]

zzz sec

[little elbow]

I am a

Fuqui enjoyer!

[left snow]

imo she is best character for aurora